#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 10 2020

01:44 AM Deejay: moin
02:40 AM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
03:34 AM Loetmichel: *meh* i should really pay more attention where i place my stuff.. just accidentally tipped over the can with isopropanol and it hit the mini torch... result is like this: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=10414&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 (VERY cold and flammable pocket.)
03:34 AM Loetmichel: *note to self:* acrylics under pressure and alcohol dont mix well
04:17 AM XXCoder: doh
04:49 AM jthornton: morning
04:53 AM XXCoder: hey
04:53 AM XXCoder: fynny thing cable arrived
04:54 AM XXCoder: tracking shows it as in calfornia, and board is at seattle
04:54 AM jthornton: tracking still shows it in cali?
04:55 AM XXCoder: yeah
04:55 AM jthornton: weird
04:55 AM XXCoder: tho maybe it updated since I checked today
04:55 AM XXCoder: delivered now
04:56 AM XXCoder: lol ebay says board was shipped
04:56 AM XXCoder: tracking shows cable as arrived and board is at calfornia now. I think they screwed up somehow
04:57 AM Tom_L: morning
04:57 AM XXCoder: hey
05:18 AM XXCoder: ohhh https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2015111370.html
05:20 AM jthornton: makes you think you're buying a mini mill lol
05:20 AM XXCoder: i already have cnc router :)
05:33 AM * Loetmichel just "overengineered" a mainboard-tray for a new system. 4mm thick sheet alu als a base, 8mm thick struts for the card retainer... and a one-shot order. Customer will pay thru his nose. -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17634&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 :-)
05:34 AM XXCoder: fancy
06:11 AM XXCoder: man I miss clickspring. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pthwc5GxWeI
06:29 AM Javabean: yeah, you are right xxcoder, i too miss the other clickspring-esk videos
06:29 AM XXCoder: guys still working on science publish
06:31 AM XXCoder: cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Veyv3uxUVK8
06:33 AM Javabean: thats fine and all, but it doesn't have to be an AM video... just something of similar quality
06:33 AM XXCoder: last link IS clickspring
06:34 AM XXCoder: just short segements of video showcasing specific skill
06:36 AM Javabean: i noticed that, thanks for posting it, but i find myself agreeing with the comment section asking him to come back to the main channel
06:36 AM XXCoder: i think next stage of his build is the secret that hes keeping for publish
06:36 AM XXCoder: and next steps cant be shown without showing that
06:38 AM Javabean: thats about what i read too
06:38 AM XXCoder: man I cant wait to find out!
06:44 AM Javabean: i wonder if i should give this to a house-builder friend of mine https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00HX2MKOC
06:45 AM Javabean: he is always complaining about the little levels being junk
06:54 AM XXCoder: fancy
06:54 AM XXCoder: but hardly max
06:54 AM XXCoder: theres youtube channel of guy thats master of precision
06:55 AM XXCoder: he has one that you have to set and wait few minutes for it to go to correct spot
06:55 AM XXCoder: and he has to balance weight too since it can be affected by its own weight, on giant rock
06:55 AM Javabean: meh, its a house... 2tens should be good enough
06:56 AM XXCoder: indeed heh
06:57 AM Javabean: er sorry, 0.0002"/10"
06:57 AM XXCoder: if I ever build a shop, im getting a cheap rock
06:57 AM XXCoder: something like https://www.amazon.com/Length-Thickness-Granite-Surface-12x9x3/dp/B07VHQWTK3/
06:58 AM XXCoder: good enough for home
07:00 AM Javabean: you realize its a lie?? its a "no ledge" but the description says 2
07:02 AM XXCoder: where does it say no ledge?
07:02 AM XXCoder: oh picture
08:02 AM jthornton: nasty day here today
08:03 AM XXCoder: whats happening there
08:03 AM XXCoder: here its very cold light run
08:03 AM XXCoder: rain
08:03 AM XXCoder: water feels like liquid ice lol
08:03 AM Tom_L: supposed to turn cold here today or tomorow
08:03 AM Tom_L: maybe snow
08:05 AM JT-Shop: Fire Danger = Impossible
08:06 AM XXCoder: impossible? challenge accepted!
08:06 AM XXCoder: jk
08:09 AM Loetmichel: JT-Shop: water burns just fine if you introduce some metallic sodium or potassium to it
08:34 AM JT-Shop: probably can't find that around here...
08:34 AM gregcnc: don't keep it on the shelf?
08:36 AM JT-Shop: if I did I probably could not find it lol
08:37 AM Loetmichel: just spray a bit of water on the shelves
08:37 AM Loetmichel: the sodium is where the explosion occurs ;)
08:37 AM Loetmichel: s/is/was ;)
08:40 AM gregcnc: working on a headache and i need to put the snow tires on before it snows and maybe do a drain and fill in the trans, no fun
08:41 AM JT-Shop: keep that snow up there!
08:42 AM gregcnc: ice, sleet, then 6" of snow yeay
09:16 AM mauz555: hello im looking for a cheap CNC aluminium machining service provider for prototyping, any recommandation ?
09:16 AM gregcnc: get quotes from various shops, pick the lowest?
09:20 AM Loetmichel: mauz555: buy a CNC 6040 from china, do it yourself ;)
09:21 AM mauz555: I have found kintec-machining.com - any caveats ? im new to CNC, but I'd love to get an aluminium enclosure for my raspeberry pi :D
09:21 AM mauz555: 3d printers PLA kinda s***
09:22 AM gregcnc: what part of the world are you in?
09:22 AM mauz555: gregcnc: Im in Western Europe
09:23 AM gregcnc: are there no machine shops there?
09:23 AM gregcnc: the last thing i would consider is china
09:25 AM mauz555: gregcnc: a local machine shop asked me around $1000 and 3weeks for a single enclosure..
09:26 AM gregcnc: why are you making one? aren't there thousands already made in china?
09:27 AM mauz555: gregcnc: im building a very specific product, Ive cut down the circuit board
09:29 AM mauz555: what is the problem with Chinese CNC providers ?
09:37 AM mauz555: Loetmichel: what do you think of this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P-Od_EHr3Hw
10:58 AM beachbumpete1: Hey folks howsitgoin?
11:03 AM weenerdog: livin the dream, man :)
11:03 AM weenerdog: you?
11:09 AM Jymmm: weenerdog: Dream, nightmare, it's all the same :)
11:11 AM weenerdog: yep
11:12 AM weenerdog: My dad had to have a little surgery so i'm playing nursemaid the last couple weeks. i've been going through the k&r c language manual, doing the examples, etc...
11:12 AM weenerdog: so nightmare :)
11:13 AM weenerdog: i learned c in college, then never did anything with it in the rat race. figured i would brush up on it.
11:13 AM weenerdog: well... i ***took*** c in college. lolol
11:13 AM weenerdog: 'learned' maybe not so much
11:13 AM Jymmm: A is for Apple
11:13 AM Jymmm: B is for Beer
11:14 AM Jymmm: C is for eh, who cares ;)
11:14 AM weenerdog: word
11:15 AM Jymmm: I took it in college too, was late turning in an assignment by two weeks, every day you were late you dropped a grade. When I finally turned it in, the instructor asked if she could use my code in her next book... I got an A =) Now, don't remember shit =)
11:18 AM Jymmm: https://mymodernmet.com/daniele-barresi-food-carving/?fbclid=IwAR3wwN2m-MjJy5GHjRngQHDUEwQa-lPozAr7VTSELZxG2dlRucWbsDxZgDA
11:46 AM beachbumpete1: yup livin da dream
11:48 AM beachbumpete1: Woah why would you want to spend that much time carving up an avocado knowing it will be brown mush in like half a day?
12:13 PM miss0r: 'evening
12:18 PM miss0r: so yesterday I scrapped a part 12 hours into the work...
12:19 PM miss0r: well.. only 5 of which were actual machining, though. the rest was design'n drawing.. but still
12:31 PM miss0r: on the up side; it was cast iron, so everything is terribly messy.... :D
12:44 PM JT-Shop: not bad light rain atm
12:53 PM FinboySlick: Jymmm: Impressive that he did that before the avocado turned brown.
12:54 PM Tom_L: thunder, lightning, rain, hail and now it's going to turn to sleet/snow
12:55 PM Tom_L: from the 60+ yesterday
01:40 PM syyl_: that sucks miss0r
01:40 PM syyl_: but now everything is already dirty ;)
01:40 PM miss0r: syyl_: true :D
01:41 PM miss0r: what is even more shitty.. My rawstock is 110~ish (raw cast) roundstock.. and I have to reduce it to 77.0mm
01:41 PM miss0r: that makes a nice mess on the lathe
01:42 PM miss0r: I was able to find some 80mm rawcast.. but I was not sure I could get a good 77mm surface from that. so I am stuck with what I could get.
01:42 PM syyl_: i have gotten carefull with close-to-size durabar-like cast iron
01:43 PM syyl_: it has often, very often, defects on its OD
01:43 PM miss0r: Yeah.. you are bound to get diserpointed :D
01:43 PM miss0r: I too have this from bad experiences ;)
01:43 PM syyl_: had parts that cleaned up perfectly
01:43 PM syyl_: and then there where casting defects
01:43 PM syyl_: thanks.
01:44 PM miss0r: yeah well.. I would have liked some 85mm or something. that would've been perfect...
01:44 PM miss0r: but this cast has something(I don't know what) but it has a different sound at spots during turning. This cleans up at around 90mm OD... so I guess I should count myself lucky
01:46 PM miss0r: I can't see any defects or anything that looks like hard spots... it just has a different sound. hard to explain
01:46 PM miss0r: (this is a shoutout to machinist listening to music in earbuds while machining...)
01:47 PM miss0r: syyl: Maybe you have a tip for me.
01:47 PM syyl_: hmm
01:47 PM syyl_: shitty cast iron? :D
01:47 PM miss0r: on another subject with this part...:
01:47 PM syyl_: or metallica and just not hear it
01:48 PM miss0r: I am making two slits in the side of the part, with a slitting saw mill blade thing :D
01:48 PM miss0r: 20mm height x 80mm diameter
01:48 PM miss0r: and I am plunging it into the side of the part 26.5mm
01:49 PM miss0r: i.e. ridiculous engagement.
01:49 PM syyl_: so you make a halfround- cutout?
01:49 PM syyl_: like cutting a slot for a half-moon key
01:49 PM miss0r: my cnc cannot handle a program that ossilates spindle speed so I am doing that ny hand (toggeling 10% up and down) to reduce chattering to a great effect.
01:50 PM miss0r: but this takes forever and it gets old realy fast :D
01:50 PM miss0r: 2 secs, picture comming
01:50 PM syyl_: cant you run it just slower?
01:51 PM miss0r: won't realy safe me...
01:51 PM miss0r: already running at 50rpm
01:51 PM miss0r: I *could* go down to 20(minimum) but it still starts to chatter...
01:51 PM syyl_: chatter or squeaking?
01:51 PM miss0r: The shank on my tool holder is basically too tiny for this operation
01:51 PM miss0r: you differ the two?
01:52 PM syyl_: yes
01:52 PM syyl_: chatter is a lower-frequency
01:52 PM syyl_: squeaking is higher
01:53 PM miss0r: in that case its both
01:53 PM miss0r: https://imgur.com/a/VeStYQp
01:53 PM syyl_: thats a lot of cutter for that machine
01:54 PM syyl_: and for that toolshank
01:54 PM miss0r: I know :D
01:54 PM miss0r: indeed
01:54 PM syyl_: :D
01:54 PM syyl_: do you have a smaller cutter?
01:54 PM syyl_: like 63x20
01:54 PM miss0r: I would not even have considered it if it was steel
01:54 PM syyl_: or 63x10
01:55 PM miss0r: nope. my collection has a rather large step down from this cutter...
01:55 PM syyl_: :\
01:55 PM miss0r: Well, I have alot that are 60, 75 80 ish.. but then they are only 2mm thick
01:55 PM syyl_: otherwise i would recommend interpoliating with a smaller cutter
01:56 PM miss0r: yeah.. but then the "bottom part" of the slot is out of reach
01:56 PM miss0r: this is hardly doable with an 80mm one
01:56 PM miss0r: I know I know.. I have designed myself into a corner :D
01:57 PM syyl_: oh
01:57 PM syyl_: hmm
01:57 PM syyl_: a thinner 80mm one?
01:57 PM miss0r: alternatively I'd have to mill it out in a seprate setup with an endmill
01:57 PM syyl_: try a 2mm one
01:57 PM syyl_: and ofsett 2mm at a time
01:57 PM miss0r: yeah.. :) I just don't want to make 10 cuts on each site
01:57 PM miss0r: hehe
01:57 PM syyl_: the cnc does the cuts
01:57 PM syyl_: :D
01:58 PM miss0r: yeah.. but I'd be watching it over it like a hawk
01:58 PM miss0r: but I guess that'd be the best option...
01:58 PM miss0r: But theres still somewhat an issue of the large cutter OD on the end of that shank...
01:58 PM miss0r: I'll give it a go, but I haven't got the biggest hope
01:59 PM miss0r: meh... This workpeice is taking FOREVER to cool down...
01:59 PM * miss0r is waiting to do the last cut
01:59 PM syyl_: just do the math :D
02:00 PM miss0r: hehe.. sadly my thermal camera does not do a great job of detecting temperatures on shiny surfaces...
02:00 PM miss0r: syyl_: While I wait: Are you up to anything interresting?
02:01 PM syyl_: yep
02:01 PM syyl_: still making a mess
02:01 PM miss0r: still the expensive peek chips?
02:01 PM syyl_: i have a photo
02:02 PM miss0r: if that is the case, I wouldn't mind swapping with you.. then YOU can deal with the cast iron dust...
02:02 PM miss0r: and the subsequent dismanteling of the lathe to clean it properly :D
02:02 PM syyl_: http://gtwr.de/div/IMG_5656.jpg
02:03 PM miss0r: oh damn :D
02:03 PM miss0r: Considered install a vacuum in there? :D
02:03 PM syyl_: i dont want the vacuum runnin all the time
02:03 PM miss0r: I get that :)
02:03 PM syyl_: that would be 1,2kW all the time
02:03 PM miss0r: but I stand by my statement: 'oh damn :D'
02:03 PM syyl_: :D
02:04 PM syyl_: i shoveled the machine clear
02:04 PM miss0r: good thing it looks like a somewhat decent enclosure there
02:04 PM syyl_: two trashbags chips
02:04 PM miss0r: I wonder if you could sell the peek chips for re melting :D
02:06 PM miss0r: the workpiece is now within reasonable temperatures... I shall recommence the work. See you around
02:07 PM syyl_: the time for talk has passed!
02:07 PM syyl_: machining has to be done!
02:34 PM Jymmm: FinboySlick: Probably jsut used lime juice to keep it from changing color
02:41 PM weenerdog: <syyl_> the time for talk has passed! <syyl_> machining has to be done! <--- hold my beer and watch this
02:42 PM * Jymmm dives into the explosion proof bunker and grabs the popcorn
04:03 PM Deejay: gn8
05:38 PM _unreal_: Jymmm, did you ever get your selder?
05:38 PM _unreal_: welder
05:38 PM _unreal_: ve7it, any news
05:41 PM _unreal_: Jymmm, are you around?
05:43 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, do you remember that "" $15 "" mig welder on ebay
05:44 PM _unreal_: no one is around... sigh
05:47 PM _unreal_: ?
05:47 PM XXCoder: yo
05:47 PM XXCoder: what about that welder
05:48 PM gloops: https://twitter.com/i/status/1215767775769022464
05:48 PM _unreal_: well I just got a "ring" in the mail
05:48 PM XXCoder: probably $15 brick lol
05:48 PM _unreal_: that I cant place. its a CHINA post item.
05:48 PM XXCoder: videotape opening
05:48 PM _unreal_: no
05:49 PM _unreal_: I cant find any payments for one from my accounts
05:50 PM _unreal_: or I should say I cant find any payments made in the past 45 days I cant account for
05:51 PM XXCoder: so you didnt pay $15 yet? heh
05:51 PM _unreal_: So I'm assuming this "ring" that showed up is the welder
05:51 PM _unreal_: I did do that $15 for "" welder"
05:51 PM XXCoder: interesting. i wonder if theres wonky language in that page that is actually some ring part of welder, not whole thing?
05:52 PM _unreal_: looks like the ring was $10 shipping.
05:52 PM gloops: lol
05:52 PM _unreal_: no a """ cartier """ of paris ring
05:52 PM XXCoder: $10? thats quite expensive for china shipping. odd.
05:52 PM _unreal_: well I dont know the value
05:52 PM _unreal_: says value $10
05:52 PM gloops: haha
05:52 PM _unreal_: I dont know the package cost
05:53 PM _unreal_: but the shipping on the tracking is just a few days after I did that bs ebay purchase
05:53 PM gloops: might come in handy if you get engaged again _unreal_
05:53 PM _unreal_: hehe
05:55 PM XXCoder: lol
05:55 PM XXCoder: even if its a brick you will have saga to tell you rkid
05:55 PM _unreal_: I could be wrong but I'm about 51% sure this """ RING """ is from the bogus ebay buy
05:56 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Cartier-Lanieres-Diamond-Ring/223843126702?
05:56 PM _unreal_: Soon as I'm 100% sure I dont have some big $ deduction from one of my accounts. I'll likely give it to my daughter
05:56 PM gloops: get it valuedm might be worth something
05:56 PM XXCoder: test it for lead first
05:57 PM _unreal_: ^^ lead
05:58 PM _unreal_: https://www.google.com/search?q=leve+cartier+ring&oq=leve+&aqs=chrome.2.69i57j0l4j69i60l3.3083j0j9&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
05:59 PM _unreal_: that is the ring
05:59 PM _unreal_: "gold"
05:59 PM gloops: that would buy a decent welder
05:59 PM _unreal_: only this one has some kind of a stone in place of some of those designs
06:00 PM _unreal_: and its valued at $10 on the shipping package
06:00 PM _unreal_: OH its an ornament
06:00 PM gloops: could be some attemot at money laundering or something
06:00 PM gloops: gone to the wrong address
06:00 PM _unreal_: on the deceleration
06:00 PM _unreal_: no had my name on it
06:01 PM _unreal_: and its inside a plastic clear faced punch
06:01 PM _unreal_: pouch
06:01 PM gloops: i mean, someone over here buying $1 items, but the crooks on the other side sending over stolen jewels in the parcels
06:02 PM _unreal_: inside a little red ""cartier"" soft velvet bag, inside a luxury items micro paper gab....
06:02 PM _unreal_: gab
06:02 PM _unreal_: bag
06:02 PM _unreal_: hehe
06:02 PM _unreal_: not likely
06:02 PM _unreal_: that would be just stupid
06:02 PM _unreal_: sell a REAL $600+ ring for $15
06:04 PM _unreal_: M'fers stole my stolen serial number https://www.pricescope.com/community/threads/authentic-cartier-love-ring.247871/
06:04 PM _unreal_: 52833
06:05 PM XXCoder: lol
06:07 PM _unreal_: hopping Jymmm gets on. wondering if he got anything
06:07 PM _unreal_: thats the only reason I threw away the $15 is I was wondering if I would get something and what would it be. OR WOULD I just loose my money
06:09 PM _unreal_: hoping
06:09 PM _unreal_: I decided I did want to hop
06:09 PM _unreal_: err didnt
06:09 PM _unreal_: ARG.. small child keeps babbling
06:13 PM _unreal_: and its quiet again.
07:38 PM _unreal_: ve7it, ?
07:39 PM _unreal_: so no one is around ehh?
07:46 PM _unreal_: ve7it, looks like I have to find a new block of wood to turn plane down so I can mill these servo pcbs figures
07:59 PM beachbumpete1: evening
08:02 PM _unreal_: I keep saying my is quiet in her.. and of all people YOU have to speak up
08:02 PM _unreal_: :0
08:02 PM _unreal_: :)
08:02 PM _unreal_: how goes it
09:48 PM veegee: Hey guys, what's the name of the tool that can loosen/tighten nuts that are meant for C spanners?
09:49 PM veegee: That is, those weird nuts that look like a sprocket but with square teeth that can be turned with a C spanner but I need more a socket type tool
09:49 PM veegee: I can't get at it from the side because there isn't enough room for a C spanner but I don't know the name of the socket that can fit these
09:50 PM veegee: Oh "axial lock nut sockets"? This is what I'm talking about: http://www.impactsocket.co.uk/media/catalog/product/cache/1/image/700x700/9df78eab33525d08d6e5fb8d27136e95/i/o/ANS06GU10_ANS08GU20.jpg
09:57 PM nvz: hmm.. guess a c-spanner isn't someone who really likes watching politics on television..
11:14 PM ve7it: _unreal_, hey
11:19 PM _unreal_: hi