#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 04 2020

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:41 AM _unreal_: Omg I'm so full
12:47 AM _unreal_: wonder if ve7it has gotten any motors spinning?
12:47 AM _unreal_: ve7it, btw my pcb just arrived today
12:47 AM _unreal_: I got my lead screw, bearings, gauge armature, and a fe other things in the mail
12:47 AM XXCoder: dammit
12:47 AM ve7it: _unreal_, which pcb?... no motors yet... been researching processors that have the resources to run 3 servo loops and 6 encoder interfaces... the esp32 is looking very promising
12:47 AM XXCoder: my board wont arrive for next 100 years and youre having fun building stuff lol
12:47 AM _unreal_: this weekend I'm going to get my measurments so i can have the FAB company turn the leadscrews
12:47 AM _unreal_: ve7it, pcb blanks
12:47 AM ve7it: right
12:47 AM _unreal_: ve7it, tomorrow I'm going to see if I can mill that boat
12:47 AM _unreal_: do you know what BIT it was genereated for?
12:48 AM _unreal_: so instead of being almost $90
12:48 AM _unreal_: its was $48 ish
12:49 AM ve7it: good score on the rod
12:49 AM _unreal_: I kind of got a little hard on when I got the "bill"
12:49 AM _unreal_: only $$$ wha wha whaa whaaaaaaaaa?
12:50 AM _unreal_: one rod is very straight the other has a TINY wiggle in it. but I'm sure I can bend it out and gauge it straight
12:52 AM _unreal_: ve7it, one end of the machine I'm going to double up the supports holding the rod. and I'm going to double the bearings. so 2x bearings on the - and 2x bearings on the + side of the lead screw
12:52 AM _unreal_: then a single bearings at the other end and no extra support
12:52 AM XXCoder: probably can make very long "nut" to run your allthread though and strighten it
12:53 AM _unreal_: I just need to bow it a bit
12:53 AM _unreal_: the wiggle is a very slow arch
12:53 AM _unreal_: I did the math the other day
12:53 AM XXCoder: thats not bad
12:53 AM ve7it: it will buff out!
12:53 AM _unreal_: so my brushed servo motors are rated for 1150rpm
12:54 AM _unreal_: and with the timing belt pullies I have
12:54 AM _unreal_: at max rpm I could expect the machine to travel about 1" a min.
12:54 AM _unreal_: er second
12:54 AM _unreal_: and the travel is about 30"
12:55 AM _unreal_: so I can expect it will take a little over 30 seconds for the Y to go from one end to the other
12:55 AM _unreal_: At max RPM with the gear reduction
12:55 AM _unreal_: Thats not bad
12:56 AM _unreal_: I think it came out to around 57" a min
12:56 AM _unreal_: next I need to figure out how to harden the coupler nuts i have
12:57 AM _unreal_: A they are HUGE, and steel not stainless
12:57 AM _unreal_: less likely to ever gall
01:20 AM _unreal_: well 2am I'm going to bed
01:22 AM XXCoder: later
01:23 AM XXCoder: just heat em up then cool em down in proper way
01:23 AM XXCoder: not sure what cooling is good for hardening. water dose?
01:24 AM ve7it: coupler nuts probably can not be hardened... they are most likely mild steel, but its pretty easy to try an experiment... het them up red hot and drop them in a can of motor oil.... watch the eye brows as the oil may flash
01:25 AM roycroft: it all depends on the type of steel it is
01:25 AM ve7it: test with a file
01:25 AM roycroft: and yes, coupler nuts are generally made of non-hardenable steel
01:25 AM ve7it: yup... good coupler nuts may be a higher carbon content (which can harden)
01:25 AM roycroft: but for steels that can be hardened, different alloys should be quenched differently
01:27 AM ve7it: some require water, but that is pretty brutal.. a lot of steels will crack with a water quench
01:27 AM roycroft: some steels should be oil quenched, some water quenched, and some just need to be air cooled
01:27 AM roycroft: some of the more difficult steels should be quenched in fairly hot oil - even room temperature oil may be too much thermal shock
01:29 AM XXCoder: interesting
01:29 AM roycroft: my real concern about trying to harden common coupler nuts is not so much that it won't work but that they're zinc-plated, and heating them up could get one sick
01:30 AM XXCoder: well vented I would say is a requirement if has zinc
01:30 AM XXCoder: zinc fever isnt fun
01:30 AM XXCoder: never had it myself
01:30 AM ve7it: just checked mcmaster-carr... they have quite a selection mild steel, grade 5 steel, grade 8 steel, grade 10 steel and what I would use....brass coupling nut
01:30 AM roycroft: yes, if it were me i'd just buy some higher grade coupler nuts
01:31 AM ve7it: or maybe even their plastic nuts
01:31 AM ve7it: https://www.mcmaster.com/coupling-nuts
01:32 AM ve7it: 15 types
01:32 AM roycroft: including titanium?
01:32 AM roycroft: no titanium, it appears
01:32 AM roycroft: but they do have cermaic ones at mcmaster
01:33 AM ve7it: havent found those yet
01:33 AM roycroft: and i'm sure nasa or the air force could get some titanium coupling nuts, for a price
01:34 AM ve7it: or get some nice chunks of uhmw and a sharp tap and make some custom nuts
01:35 AM ve7it: the worst would be stainless on stainless but unreal has already noted the galling issue
01:35 AM roycroft: another problem with water quenching, besides cracking, is that it usually causes significant warping
01:36 AM roycroft: if the threads on your coupling nuts are cut fairly tight you may not be able to insert fasteners after hardening (assuming the steel is hardenable)
01:38 AM XXCoder: roy could one thread nut on so it holds shape?
01:38 AM XXCoder: then remove surifical thread section and throw it away
01:38 AM roycroft: while hardening?
01:38 AM XXCoder: yeah
01:38 AM roycroft: no
01:38 AM XXCoder: so prerty much have to be done then put on lathe and mill threads
01:39 AM roycroft: use an alloy that is oil or air quenched and not prone to warping
01:39 AM XXCoder: (have to make nut so it has no thread yet)
01:39 AM roycroft: you aren't going to want to cut threads on hardened steel
01:39 AM XXCoder: hmm guess npot
01:39 AM roycroft: use a proper alloy :)
01:39 AM ve7it: wow... just checked the prices grade 8 are $15ea, cheap ones are $1.15, brass are 6.69 for short ones or 8.28 for longer ones
01:40 AM ve7it: extreme strength are $37 ea
01:41 AM ve7it: scrap brass, a tap and a spring can make not a bad antibacklash nut
01:42 AM ve7it: I think we put _unreal_ to sleep!
01:52 AM nvz: meh.. I just remembered I have a HP T510 Thin Client I could use for my CNC that I left at my fathers house and he was just here and could've brought it :-/
01:55 AM nvz: it has a Via Eden X2 U4200 dual-core 1Ghz processor and a Via X900 chipset which includes the VT1211 SuperIO chip which among other things has a Bi-directional SPP thats EPP v1.7/1.9 and ECP IEEE1284
02:09 AM Deejay: moin
04:58 AM Tom_L: morning
05:05 AM jthornton: morning
05:05 AM XXCoder: morning
05:24 AM jymmmm: morning
05:24 AM XXCoder: yo
05:24 AM p0g0: there's an echo in here ... in here ... n her ... hr
05:24 AM XXCoder: .. echo... in here..
05:32 AM jymmmm: nuh uh.... nuh uh... nuh uh
06:38 AM Loetmichel: maaan, sometimes i dont understand german home improvement stores... searched for a speed square for three days now. NO home improvement chain has one in stock
06:38 AM Loetmichel: most clerks didnt even know what it is.
06:38 AM jymmmm: Dang germans!
06:38 AM Loetmichel: the ONE time americans actually make a good tool and noone has it in germany :-(
06:39 AM jymmmm: maybe you wet to the wrong hardware store
06:40 AM XXCoder: yeah no store is good for wetting man
06:40 AM Loetmichel: i went to all of them chains
06:41 AM Loetmichel: not to the hardware/tool store in my neighborhood though because i would have to get a day off for that: it opens only at working hours/days
06:43 AM XXCoder: mill one ;)
06:44 AM jymmmm: print one
06:45 AM jymmmm: cast one
06:45 AM SpeedEvil: https://smile.amazon.co.uk/Aluminum-Protractor-Precision-Measuring-Carpenter/dp/B07BDHV6BF got this
06:46 AM SpeedEvil: Needing some sanding of the rough edges, and a tiny bit of filing, but works well.
06:46 AM Loetmichel: i found one on amazon
06:46 AM Loetmichel: .de
06:46 AM Loetmichel: i was just surprised that neither OBI nor Hornbach or Toom or Bauhaus has any in stock or even in listing
06:48 AM jymmmm: Loetmichel: so what do the framers in germany use instead?
06:51 AM Loetmichel: probably something like this: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Anschlagwinkel-Zimmermannswinkel-Schreinerwinkel-Messwinkel-90-Winkel-/132724006600
06:51 AM jymmmm: ah
06:52 AM Loetmichel: i have a few of those, they are impractical though because the yellow blade is SO thin that the circular saw slips over it
06:52 AM jymmmm: ah
06:53 AM jthornton: I have 3, I can email you one...
06:54 AM Loetmichel: :-)
06:54 AM SpeedEvil: The above one is ~5mm thick
06:54 AM SpeedEvil: which is fine
07:26 AM _unreal_: morning
07:26 AM _unreal_: not feeling great
07:27 AM _unreal_: I purchased beer that I hate for linking love for cooking. budwiser, great for cooking hamburg. especially making mexican. drank a few of them only purchased a 4pack. BLAAA blaa BLAAA..
07:28 AM _unreal_: linking=drinking
07:28 AM _unreal_: taught my duaghter to cook chilly last night
07:29 AM _unreal_: entertaining part. I couldnt find the diaper in the meat package. I figured she plopped it into the pan with the 1lb of hamburg. So I told her pick it up and take it out. NO daddy I dont want to.
07:30 AM _unreal_: I was like DO IT. (inside evil grin). she picked it up !! no diaper WTF?
07:30 AM _unreal_: go wash your hands sweatheart
07:31 AM SpeedEvil: On the topic of food laziness, I found that you can bake eggs at 120C/1h in the oriignal plastic packaging (which shrinks a bit) - put in fridge, and 24h later they peel easily
07:32 AM gregcnc: the plastic or the shell?
07:32 AM _unreal_: what came first
07:32 AM _unreal_: heh
07:32 AM SpeedEvil: The plastic does not shrink that far
07:32 AM gregcnc: i'll see if my wife goes for this
07:33 AM _unreal_: OMG I'm farting so much
07:33 AM gregcnc: dude don't you have a twitter to share stuff like that
07:33 AM _unreal_: gregcnc, I tught my 10yo to make chili last night
07:33 AM _unreal_: it was good, I likely had one to many bowls
07:34 AM _unreal_: y..e...p... thttttttttttt
07:34 AM gregcnc: cool story bro
07:38 AM gregcnc: I'm going to try tapping on a radial live tool in the lathe today. manuals says G33 ...M13 to the bottom of the hole, G33...M14 back out
07:39 AM gregcnc: must be a machine specific thing as the Fanuc manuals have a tapping cycle for live tools
07:39 AM _unreal_: nvz, that would make a nifty puter
07:40 AM nvz: o.O
07:40 AM _unreal_: ! was not expecting a reply right away
07:40 AM * nvz moons the camera to see if _unreal_ is spying on him
07:40 AM _unreal_: nvz, responding to your comment before about the thin client
07:41 AM nvz: yeah.. well I just woke up :P
07:42 AM nvz: I forgot I even had that thin client cause its a piece of shit.. the T520 which is based on an AMD G-Series SoC is much better
07:42 AM nvz: but the T510 with the Via chip has a parallel port
07:43 AM nvz: and I left it at my parents house.. so now I gotta go get the damn thing :-/
07:43 AM nvz: could kinda use my mini fridge and some other crap I left there too so..
07:43 AM _unreal_: kinda?
07:44 AM nvz: yeah well I dont need it right now.. heh.. but I will soon
07:44 AM _unreal_: just looked at the working specs on that cpu...
07:44 AM _unreal_: unless your running something like TURBOCNC in dos with that thing. its not going to run lcnc and do software stepping
07:45 AM nvz: the working specs are.... better than a PII 333Mhz with like 64ish MB ram :P
07:45 AM _unreal_: my point exactly
07:45 AM _unreal_: there is to much over head
07:45 AM _unreal_: your going to want to use a MESA with that
07:46 AM nvz: the thin client on the other hand can go up to 4GB ram and is a dual-core 1ghz
07:46 AM _unreal_: and the gpu is intergrated etc...
07:46 AM nvz: the gpu is total shit
07:47 AM nvz: its not even supported by linux really
07:47 AM _unreal_: right but its INTERGREATED meaning you have shared memory
07:47 AM _unreal_: oh and no supported by linux
07:47 AM _unreal_: that means even more cpu load
07:47 AM _unreal_: ya..
07:48 AM nvz: I didnt think the linuxcnc was that resource intensive.. its just running the code, not making it?!
07:49 AM _unreal_: nvz, have you looked up the "benchmark scale" of suggested cpu/mother boards computers in general for running lcnc in software contol
07:49 AM nvz: 700 MHz x86 processor (1.2 GHz x86 processor recommended) 384 MB of RAM (512 MB up to 1 GB recommended)
07:50 AM _unreal_: ya MINIMUM suggested
07:50 AM gregcnc: When I started with 2.2 I think, it ran very well on a 500MHz and 256MB
07:51 AM nvz: yeah well this kinda machine they talk about is a leprechan riding a unicorn
07:51 AM _unreal_: but have you looked up the performance comparison charts.
07:51 AM gregcnc: I still have a mill running parport PIII 900, 512MB on 2.6 something
07:51 AM nvz: you can't get machines that are powerful, have dedicated graphics, yet are old enough to have a real parallel port
07:51 AM nvz: I got better machines.. they dont have parallel ports
07:52 AM _unreal_: gregcnc, that sounds about right.
07:52 AM gregcnc: yeah, that stuff doesn't really exist anymore
07:52 AM _unreal_: nvz, thats not an INTEL cpu in the thinclient
07:52 AM nvz: its x86
07:53 AM nvz: its not an arm processor like a rpi
07:53 AM _unreal_: i may work just fine but I have a feeling its going to have a high jitter looking at the specs
07:53 AM _unreal_: it
07:53 AM gregcnc: you never really know about jitter from specs
07:53 AM nvz: yeah well it isn't good for shit else I know that much
07:53 AM gregcnc: you have to test it
07:54 AM _unreal_: does it have any ports?
07:54 AM _unreal_: pci?
07:54 AM nvz: I think I got like 2GB ram and 1GB ssd in there.. was gonna swap it out with an 8GB ssd and max the ram out
07:55 AM nvz: I got the T520 all decked out.. 240GB ssd, 8GB ram, Intel Wifi/Bt card..
07:55 AM nvz: the t510 may have a mpcie like the T520 idk.. dont remember
07:55 AM _unreal_: :) I have some old thin clients..
07:55 AM _unreal_: eznet 200
07:56 AM _unreal_: 200mhz geode cpu overclockable to 300 woo wooo..
07:56 AM _unreal_: oh and 32mb ram
07:57 AM nvz: yeah well the HP t520 and upward that have AMD G-series SoC are decent... I call em pi-killers
07:57 AM nvz: cause you can buy em online used these days for less than a pi, and they already have a case, psu, storage, etc..
07:58 AM nvz: and they are the same clock rate, but are AMD64 and support more and removable ram
07:58 AM _unreal_: lol I typed in HP t520 got a printer
07:58 AM nvz: the $35 pi you still gotta buy like $75 worth of shit to use it
08:00 AM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z67Cuo6rkVM
08:00 AM nvz: https://morgantown.craigslist.org/sys/d/granville-thin-client-retro-gaming/7039930228.html
08:00 AM nvz: is mine..
08:00 AM nvz: I know all about using it for gaming :P
08:02 AM nvz: I played halo on it.. its a little too slow (on crossover/debian anyhow, never ran anything else on it) to run GTA San Andreas.. it'll run but its slightly choppy
08:02 AM nvz: hell even halo gets a little choppy when there are a lot of aliens around and cortana is trying to talk all at the same time
08:05 AM _unreal_: with the onboard gpu?
08:05 AM _unreal_: or external?
08:06 AM nvz: I had seen the 730 or something on ebay, they had several new but open box for under $200 now those have ryzen and vega8..
08:09 AM nvz: with the integrated Radeon R2E on the SoC
08:11 AM nvz: the Radeon R2E is a decent little graphics processor.. can run two displays easily.. though I havent tested it driving two at 1080p or better
08:11 AM _unreal_: well goals for this weekend
08:11 AM _unreal_: A: get off my ass
08:12 AM _unreal_: b: :( fix the last of the pool screened in area. naturally LADDER work :(
08:13 AM _unreal_: ladders briged over the pool with a 12' ladder on them etc..
08:13 AM _unreal_: pressure wash the drive way
08:14 AM _unreal_: all the STANDARD HOA bullshit
08:14 AM nvz: f'n homeowners :P
08:14 AM nvz: I enjoy calling people homeowners.. even if you're mistaken nobody ever seems upset..
08:15 AM _unreal_: not even my house its my fathers. he has multi houses. my sisters lives in an other one.
08:15 AM nvz: never once has someone gotten angry and said "no, I rent you insensitive prick!"
08:15 AM _unreal_: and my father for work travels the world. so he's always crashing at one of his houses
08:15 AM _unreal_: its an interesting setup
08:16 AM _unreal_: he has multi homes in the US, a house in the Caribbean..
08:16 AM nvz: "homeowner" and "neighbor" are my go-to slang words to call people
08:17 AM nvz: spent some time a couple years ago living in the ghetto and these young black kids would use that N word like it was a space between words.. I'd interrupt them in the middle of telling stories.. say "does your nigga live in the same hood as you?" "yes" "well let me introduce you to a new n-word.. he's your neighbor.."
08:17 AM _unreal_: I cant tell you how many times he's been here and gone nutty trying to find "FOOD" in the fridge only to finally go oh maybe its in the house 2000 miles away that I just left yesteday
08:18 AM _unreal_: moments later nvz was shot
08:18 AM nvz: na, they thing I'm hilarious
08:20 AM nvz: a bunch of them were sitting around one day having this who was the brokest contest.. one said something like "I used to eat pb&j" and I was like.. ni- nigga.. pb.. and j? You had pb and j? I ate buttered crackers and gumment cheese sammiches..
08:21 AM nvz: if you got not only peanut butter, but jelly too... you aint broke
08:21 AM nvz: I had to tell them how we had to save up to be broke.. how if someone robbed us all they got is practice..
08:23 AM nvz: if I wasnt so broke now I could afford gas to get to pittsburgh AND $25 to grab a decent desktop off craigslist while I'm there
08:23 AM nvz: cause there sure isnt any around here.. but plenty up that way
08:25 AM nvz: https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/sys/d/glenshaw-used-hp-compaq-pentium-4-21/7046858148.html
08:25 AM nvz: https://pittsburgh.craigslist.org/sys/d/glenshaw-used-300-ghz-computer-monitor/7046844959.html
08:25 AM nvz: both P4 machines, I'd talked to the guy
08:26 AM nvz: both for $25 for just the tower
08:29 AM nvz: but thats going up the allegheny toward my brother's house not up the ohio toward my fathers.. so its kinda out of the way..
08:29 AM nvz: I'm down the Mon in Morgantown
08:29 AM nvz: and gas is cheaper here
08:30 AM nvz: but I got my savings of the last few months tied up in this cnc machine already :P
08:30 AM elmo40: but why so slow?
08:30 AM nvz: ?
08:30 AM elmo40: i can find an i5 machine for $50
08:31 AM nvz: 1) I dont have $50 2) I'm in a small hillbilly college town
08:33 AM nvz: 3) I dont use facebook :P
08:33 AM nvz: most people around here are selling their crap on facebook
08:33 AM _unreal_: nvz, I dont use facebook except for selling shit
08:34 AM _unreal_: hell facebook is what help fuck my marriage up years ago
08:35 AM _unreal_: nvz, money is EASY to make
08:37 AM _unreal_: but HARD to figure out how to do it IF one does not have a background of guidance and mentoring on ways to do so.
08:37 AM _unreal_: nvz, one easy way to make quick cash :) good will
08:37 AM _unreal_: and facebook
08:37 AM _unreal_: you find a local "buy swap n sell" in your area.
08:37 AM gregcnc: uh oh gary vee
08:37 AM _unreal_: on facebook
08:38 AM _unreal_: ?
08:38 AM nvz: there are pawnshops everywhere here.. but you're not gonna get a computer cheap or at all
08:38 AM _unreal_: pawnshops are good BUT you loose $
08:38 AM nvz: there are so many college students trying to swap computers its ridiculous
08:38 AM nvz: and most of em are laptops
08:39 AM _unreal_: nvz, I'm using a laptop to drive my home cnc
08:39 AM _unreal_: sadly that one is not running lcnc
08:39 AM nvz: and goodwill would sell that Gateway G6-333 for like $400
08:39 AM _unreal_: I'm not talking computers
08:39 AM _unreal_: I'm talking about making money
08:39 AM nvz: on rare occasions I see a computer there they price them ridiculously
08:40 AM gregcnc: flip life
08:40 AM _unreal_: nvz, do you have a restore in your area
08:40 AM nvz: probably
08:40 AM _unreal_: restores typically have better pricing
08:40 AM nvz: I dont need to make money.. making money is what got me broke :P
08:40 AM _unreal_: but regardless
08:40 AM _unreal_: ?
08:40 AM nvz: I wouldnt be broke right now if I werent investing in so many things to make money
08:41 AM _unreal_: then your not investing
08:41 AM nvz: yes I am, it takes time for shit to turn around
08:41 AM gregcnc: or broke?
08:41 AM _unreal_: I use to make $400/wk when I lived in maine just buying shit at goodwill and selling on the local facebook swapnsell
08:41 AM nvz: if you got a return immediately it'd be called gambling
08:42 AM _unreal_: $20 for a hub gear bicycle with a broken wire. took me 20min to fix it. sold it for $100 worth 400 new
08:43 AM _unreal_: so I mean $60 right there
08:43 AM elmo40: nvz, LIFE is a gamble
08:43 AM _unreal_: thats just an easy example
08:43 AM elmo40: and investments are also a gamble
08:43 AM nvz: I'm familiar with all that
08:44 AM _unreal_: hell I came across a "power pole" controller for I think it was $5 ish
08:44 AM elmo40: anything you give money into and expect/hope a better return is a gamble
08:44 AM _unreal_: I knew what it was being in the marine industry.
08:44 AM nvz: point is you can't drop several hundred into a new thing you haven't even started doing yet and still have money
08:44 AM _unreal_: I put it up on ebay I believe and sold it for $200
08:44 AM nvz: especially when you're flipping houses in the process.. this takes TIME and actual work..
08:44 AM nvz: which means you dont have time during the day to be thrift shopping
08:44 AM _unreal_: booo hoooo. I'm a full time single parent
08:45 AM nvz: good for you.. you're the one who started this crap.. I'm just lookin for a computer.. not looking for advice on making money :P
08:45 AM _unreal_: try doing all that AND dealing with child care expenses. and late fee's for picking the child up late and on and on...
08:46 AM _unreal_: dad I'm hungry. dad I need help (homework) I dont get it....
08:46 AM nvz: I got a job to make money.. we got a house thats already pretty much sold and we just bought it and gotta fix it up
08:47 AM _unreal_: well your telling us your broke and have needs, I'm giving you an easy little effort way to make some side cash.
08:47 AM nvz: we're just playing two different games.. you're more short-term returns cause you need the cash now.. you got a kid
08:47 AM nvz: we're doing long-term stuff
08:47 AM nvz: and trying to start up 3 businesses simultaneously doesn't leave you time for the little stuff
08:48 AM _unreal_: 3 businesses?
08:48 AM nvz: yes we're all pursuing our own ideas, and helping each other out with them
08:48 AM nvz: its like a circle jerk investment plan :P
08:48 AM nvz: oh you're doing that? cool.. I'll help you get off, if you help me..
08:48 AM _unreal_: ahh?
08:49 AM nvz: so better odds.. if 2 ideas fail we all wind up working for the 3rd man :P
08:50 AM _unreal_: I'm trying to get my new cnc machine built. because I'm being flooded with peole wanting me to make stuff
08:50 AM _unreal_: well stuff that is too big
08:51 AM nvz: yeah thats why we went so big to start with.. cause we do a lot of construction already so we wanted to have ability to do 4x8 sheet if need be right off
08:51 AM _unreal_: https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNjUL9VJW4BIh58ZOHM6jOWS10l43lfzL_nr7FMD-YXm_o6hG63BfTN2Rv6ch6C_Q?key=OVV0UTBXUmF0NXNSR2NKVzdoaFhxQzVTbDI5V3JB
08:51 AM nvz: and with a 4x4 workable on a cart, we can either push through or turn the sheet around and do both ends
08:52 AM _unreal_: I've built parts where I let my machine move the work piece to a precision move. so I could mill the other end.
08:53 AM nvz: yeah thats the kinda stuff /I/ wanna do cause I'm more on the linux/tech end of things but can't be selfish in a circle jerk scenario :P
08:53 AM nvz: gotta try work your idea into the others ideas
08:53 AM _unreal_: nvz, my home machine uses a planetcnc controller
08:54 AM _unreal_: running on a single core netbook running win10
08:55 AM nvz: I was gonna go with that protoneer rpi thing you just posted
08:55 AM _unreal_: 1.4ghz iirc
08:55 AM nvz: but now I wouldnt have the money for it until next week
08:55 AM _unreal_: I wouldnt
08:55 AM _unreal_: well not that grbl is bad
08:55 AM nvz: I switched gears last minute cause they told me the gbrl stuff isnt linuxcnc and I rather have the support community
08:55 AM _unreal_: there is a lot of control you give up
08:55 AM nvz: I coudlnt find a channel like this for that shit
08:56 AM _unreal_: What are you talking about no support channel
08:56 AM _unreal_: #reprap
08:56 AM _unreal_: they use grbl
08:56 AM * nvz shrugs
08:56 AM nvz: you are already DOING this stuff.. I am just starting out :D
08:57 AM nvz: I dont have the benefit of experience
08:57 AM nvz: I took a 3 day course at the university of youtube
08:57 AM _unreal_: I dont have a 3d printer
08:57 AM nvz: :P
08:57 AM _unreal_: I purchased a neje laser etcher that isnt worth a shit and i need to redo the controller so I can even use it
08:58 AM _unreal_: I have a TINY home cnc machine
08:58 AM _unreal_: well not tiny
08:58 AM _unreal_: 7.75"x12" x1.5" working area
09:00 AM _unreal_: so how much did the course at UYT cost?
09:04 AM nvz: just time
09:04 AM nvz: sitting ther searching foo vs bar bar vz baz..
09:06 AM _unreal_: well its 10am I need to make breakfast. and I need to pry my bookworm away from her book
09:07 AM nvz: she homeschooled?
09:07 AM _unreal_: nvz, I'll leave you with this, DONT go grbl, not that its bad but its prone to fuckups.
09:07 AM _unreal_: no
09:07 AM nvz: ah.. figured your kid would be in school right now :P
09:07 AM _unreal_: I taught her to love to read
09:08 AM _unreal_: on a saterday
09:08 AM nvz: oh right weekend :P
09:08 AM nvz: I'm too sleepy to remember what day it is :D
09:08 AM _unreal_: interesting
09:09 AM nvz: I just had the first business meeting of the day while taking a speed shit.
09:09 AM nvz: they're saying dont go to pittsburgh.. for the $40 it'd cost we can get something better
09:09 AM nvz: and the other stuff I was gonna grab I dont need.. says he has a mini fridge in storage :P
09:10 AM nvz: and we got work to do here building the cnc.. we built the cart last night
09:11 AM nvz: http://nvz.farted.net/cnccart.mp4
09:17 AM nvz: if we can assemble the gantry today I'd be happy.. cause I got the two rails and z axis kit to fully assemble the gantry
09:18 AM nvz: well minus the pulleys and timing belt which won't be here until monday
09:18 AM nvz: when the other two rails come in
09:19 AM nvz: I also have a shitload of wire at my parents house.. but can't rely on my father to find and get it
09:19 AM nvz: is another reason I wanted to go up myself
09:19 AM gregcnc: do you have a product or are you job shopping?
09:19 AM nvz: got some kinda thing there that looks a bit like a parallel cable but its a lot thicker.. and really long.. think it was used to hook an industrial machine controller up..
09:20 AM nvz: figured I could salvage that wire for wiring up the CNC
09:21 AM nvz: gregcnc: we have nothing real specific in mind yet.. as we gotta learn to use it first and get the right tools.. I'd like to be able to do something with the shit ton of slate we'd salvaged off a roof tearoff years ago.. we got a big stack of good uncracked slate tiles
09:21 AM nvz: but I doubt our lil 7w laser or cheap spindle are gonna do much with that
09:21 AM nvz: so we'll be doing mostly wood.. like that cuttingboard _unreal_ had done and crap like that
09:22 AM nvz: maybe some custom furniture and things of that nature
09:23 AM nvz: as we get the hang of it and add onto the machine more.... but we're totally green on all this right now.. we only know enough to build it and have some idea what we could do with it :P
09:24 AM gregcnc: sure. Seems like actually having pofitable work is the hard part
09:24 AM nvz: I just wanted to build a machine big and modular enough we could adapt easily.. rather than just start with a tiny pre-build
09:24 AM nvz: my cousin's wife who is my partner in this, already has established crafts business and is familiar with the cricut she has
09:25 AM nvz: and we already do construction and recently hand torched plywood in a remodel..
09:25 AM nvz: with a laser we could've gotten way more fancy
09:26 AM nvz: I mean the torch job looked nice.. but the design was nature made.. just the grain..
10:34 AM _unreal_: anything can be profitable, just need a market
10:35 AM _unreal_: nvz, for example https://drive.google.com/open?id=1VqyzqoMi4iZVV41GmMis40h8SHz_QX4w
10:35 AM _unreal_: nvz, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UzIkzWvYty0FxijIaJAswSoZj6lSlkAF https://drive.google.com/open?id=1V60bIWphg3nWt25IINu5hvOoqIqNHSH3
10:35 AM _unreal_: other things I've made with my little cnc machine
10:36 AM _unreal_: with $ great return
10:41 AM _unreal_: nvz, how "" cheap "" is your spindle?
10:42 AM _unreal_: nvz, My "" cheap "" little machine milling aluminum https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fnDdmO8oMWCKIWO9yF5W1kBki8bxOwxU
10:42 AM _unreal_: no the multi million dollar spindle https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ffvr-FttLliykEUM7PAVBrSwE6uhglKn
10:42 AM _unreal_: not
10:42 AM _unreal_: note
10:45 AM _unreal_: nvz, and here are the almunum mounts in place https://drive.google.com/open?id=1g9lr1CepUdEPi5NcA2wNqxJbsjyfZgnh
11:00 AM nvz: _unreal_: you do skype?
11:01 AM dirty_d: I ordered a $150 laptop off ebay, I hope it plays well with linuxcnc
11:02 AM nvz: does it have a parport?
11:02 AM dirty_d: nope, I'm probably gonna get a 7i93 and 7i47
11:03 AM dirty_d: I'll be using open loop steppers to start, and probably upgrading to closed loop
11:04 AM nvz: ah something ethernet based
11:04 AM dirty_d: I ordered a closed loop stepper driver that I'm going to try to get working with one of my normal stepper motors with an AMT113q encoder mounted on it
11:05 AM dirty_d: I'm sure I'll have to use the tuning software because I think they're tuned for specific motors with the encoder built in
11:06 AM _unreal_: why do you ask if I do skype?
11:08 AM _unreal_: dirty_d, they are not TUNED to anything
11:08 AM nvz: _unreal_: cuase I'm in the shop now you can just see the crap spread out here on the table :P
11:08 AM _unreal_: an encoder is just an encoder
11:08 AM dirty_d: _unreal_ I mean the closed-loop stepper driver is tuned to a specific motor
11:09 AM dirty_d: well, a few, there are switches to set which motor
11:09 AM _unreal_: the only aspect to that is aligning the encoder to the STEP.
11:09 AM _unreal_: and even that has wiggle room
11:09 AM _unreal_: there is also the home signal some encoders have
11:10 AM _unreal_: just a single line indicating "HOME"
11:10 AM dirty_d: these have an index signal, but the stepper driver only takes the incremental signals
11:10 AM _unreal_: INDEX thats the word i was looking for
11:11 AM _unreal_: index is useless unless your using an A axis or 5x mill etc..
11:11 AM dirty_d: this is the driver I got http://www.astrosurf.com/jd85/ESA/HBS-90-8.2.PDF
11:12 AM _unreal_: super low motor noise LOL
11:13 AM _unreal_: JUST MEANS high micro stepping which ='s loss of torque but made up for by the encoder forcing the motor to get to the set point
11:13 AM nvz: I don't offhand know of another way to just broadcast a webcam without modifying the router settings or I'd have just done that :P
11:15 AM gregcnc: index is not useless, often used for accurate homing with limit switches
11:19 AM dirty_d: how accurate are normal limit switches usually?
11:21 AM dirty_d: I never put any on my mill
11:22 AM jthornton: what is a "normal" limit switch?
11:22 AM gregcnc: using index allows you to get away from accuracy of the switch
11:22 AM dirty_d: good question
12:08 PM _unreal_: gregcnc, lol I SAID that already " often used for accurate homing with limit switches"
12:09 PM _unreal_: ok... time to go pressure wash the driveway ;p
12:09 PM _unreal_: just waht I want to do
12:25 PM dirty_d: I have one of these https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-80-100-b-130kv-brushless-outrunner-eq-70-55.html I feel it would be irresponsible of me to not use this to upgrade my spindle, right?
12:26 PM dirty_d: it would do 6000rpm at 48V, and I think about 5Nm at 70A
12:28 PM dirty_d: my current spindle is powered by a 750W motor, and the spindle maxes out at 2000rpm, so 750W at 2000rpm would be about 3.6Nm right? So I wouldn't have to gear down that brushless motor I think
12:29 PM dirty_d: actually maybe gear it up for more rpm
12:42 PM nvz: well we almost got all the wood cut now
01:07 PM SpeedEvil: dirty_d: you may want to pay careful attention to the bearings - swapping them out may be possible
01:24 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, also temps
01:25 PM _unreal_: thats a lot of power to push, and that motor expects to have a FAN dirctlly connected to it
01:26 PM _unreal_: dirty_d, heheh discontinued item
01:27 PM _unreal_: SpeedEvil, are you talking about bearings in the spindle? or in the motor
01:28 PM SpeedEvil: I was assuming you were considering mounting some form of collet or chuck on the shaft
01:28 PM _unreal_: I?
01:28 PM SpeedEvil: If it's connected via a pulleyor whatever, it's not an issue
01:28 PM SpeedEvil: ^he
01:29 PM _unreal_: sounds like its a pulley setup
01:30 PM _unreal_: If that is the case I'd likely suggest direct mounting BUT that also depends on what he's cutting. and if he's looking for a wide range. he'd likely be better off with a stacked pulley so he could change speeds high torque to high RPMs
01:30 PM _unreal_: My spindle runs at 12k
01:31 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1ffvr-FttLliykEUM7PAVBrSwE6uhglKn
01:31 PM SpeedEvil: And yes, if the motor is running at more than a tithe of its power, it'll need a big fan.
01:32 PM _unreal_: I would say likely a duckted fan/box around it
02:04 PM gloops: get some cash out _unreal_ and buy a bigger/faster spindle
02:04 PM gloops: 12k is low for wood
02:07 PM gloops: im gonna make a holder for a sharpie pen
02:30 PM gloops: or a fountain pen maybe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=akxKqdWlVnE
03:00 PM _unreal_: So I am not covered in ICK and EWWW
03:01 PM _unreal_: nothing like pressure washing the driveway and the pool area and the walk way and the screens over the pool and.. and.. and....
03:01 PM _unreal_: and I'm not done I just ran out of gas
03:02 PM Rab: dirty_d, that motor's a beast. How will you power it?
03:06 PM _unreal_: LOL wall wart
03:06 PM _unreal_: rab I REALLLLLLLY wish I had a mini lathe
03:07 PM _unreal_: blows me away no one makes a micro lathe
03:07 PM _unreal_: the harbor freight one is abut the smallest usable metal lathe I've seen
03:09 PM Rab: _unreal_, lots of micro lathes out there. Google 'Unimat'.
03:10 PM Rab: They won't replace a bigger lathe, though.
03:11 PM _unreal_: and NOT $500
03:14 PM Rab: Looks like a more than a few Unimats have gone for <$500 on eBay.
03:19 PM _unreal_: ya if I'm going to spend that much I'm going to buy new
03:19 PM _unreal_: and I'm not in the market for a lathe considering the money I've been dumping into the CNC stuff
03:20 PM _unreal_: this weekend I'm hopping to have everything I need figured out so I can have the machine company on monday cut my threaded rods
03:20 PM Rab: Here's a cutie, no doubt a better fit for your applications than either Unimat or Harbor Fright: https://miami.craigslist.org/brw/tls/d/fort-lauderdale-metal-lathe-6-atlas/7040596898.html
03:21 PM _unreal_: I'm not in the market to blow $500
03:21 PM Tom_L: i got one of those but mine is alot older
03:23 PM _unreal_: ! OH rab if you should see a decent deal on rails let me know I'm looking for 30mm range mgn or sbr etc...
03:23 PM _unreal_: I HAVE a lathe " " its my fathers and not working and missing belts
03:23 PM _unreal_: and a motor
03:24 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Z_Axis_Pulley.jpg
03:25 PM _unreal_: THAT is what i need to do
03:26 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, electrical outlet in the line of fire of metal filings NICE
03:30 PM Rab: _unreal_, you already have a lathe? Put a free treadmill motor on it!
03:30 PM _unreal_: it needs belts
03:30 PM _unreal_: those round style belts
03:30 PM _unreal_: i'm not sure the size. have not boothered because its " my fathers "
03:49 PM _unreal_: soo quiet...
04:14 PM nvz: that was too much like work :P
04:15 PM nvz: and this machine is way bigger and heavier than I thought it'd be :P
04:16 PM dirty_d: Rab, good question, I don't think I'm going to need anywhere near 6000W though.
04:18 PM nvz: once we get the hang of this machine and make back the $800 or so we put into it, I'm gonna use it to build another machine and sell this one .. I think is the plan :P
04:18 PM Rab: dirty_d, do you have a suitable ESC?
04:18 PM dirty_d: Rab, nope not yet
04:19 PM dirty_d: I had a 48V 3kW power supply that somehow dissapeared, that might have worked
04:19 PM dirty_d: I found it on ebay years ago for $30
04:20 PM Rab: dirty_d, you might need an e-bike controller.
04:20 PM _unreal_: nvz, I'd suggest using the new build to pay its self back 30 fold before thinking about selling it
04:20 PM dirty_d: yea, it was this https://www.ebay.com/itm/ASTEC-HPS3KW-NNR-032-3000W-57A-48V-Power-Supply/253201832549?hash=item3af4015a65:g:KZ4AAOSw7qRdp1ia
04:21 PM dirty_d: Rab those usually have pretty weak power ratings. The RC ESCs are cheap and high power
04:21 PM Rab: dirty_d, hardcore. Were you able to make it power on?
04:21 PM _unreal_: nvz, ?
04:22 PM nvz: _unreal_: I was gonna use it to build another one.. don't need two of em :P
04:22 PM Rab: dirty_d, good point. e-bikes are limited to 750W here, now that I think of it.
04:23 PM dirty_d: Rab, yea just have to short two pins
04:24 PM dirty_d: damn, I wish i hadn't lost that
04:25 PM nvz: https://imgur.com/a/d5Kkv3e is todays efforts, a look at the mess in the shop.. rough cut all the pieces, and got the base of the machine half assembled.
04:27 PM dirty_d: that looks like the router I saw a guy build on youtube
04:27 PM _unreal_: nvz, and you would be supprised how often having more then one machine MORE so a big and small machine comes in handy
04:29 PM _unreal_: nvz, and how are you planning on setting up bearings?
04:30 PM _unreal_: nvz, also some pointers. COAT the entire wood body with ether epoxy or urethane varnish
04:30 PM Rab: nvz, are y'all working from plans?
04:31 PM XXCoder: foggy shop eh ;)
04:31 PM _unreal_: rabi dont think they are
04:31 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, I was thinking the same thing
04:31 PM _unreal_: ahh... the web cam days
04:31 PM nvz: Rab: sort of, I've made some changes
04:32 PM _unreal_: nvz, regardless MAKE SURE before you guys get to close to finished. coat the entire WOOF body with epoxy or varnish
04:32 PM _unreal_: wood will warp in and out AS the air moisture level changes
04:33 PM _unreal_: TRUST ME coat it before painting it would be a pain
04:33 PM nvz: painting? :P
04:33 PM _unreal_: find ignore me
04:34 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1atst-CU8Z0J9nC9ncANXYseTI9cDcDUN https://drive.google.com/open?id=1feJUHQfwfrGRO7LnBXBGSu6aNICulUX2
04:34 PM XXCoder: test assembly then pull it apart, paint all over with epoxy or varnish then put em together for final time
04:34 PM _unreal_: gluing under side supports on, bottom side painted with epoxy
04:34 PM nvz: is the woof body what the woofs legs are attached to? :P
04:34 PM _unreal_: ?
04:35 PM Rab: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/warp%20and%20woof
04:36 PM nvz: hmm.. never heard that term before
04:38 PM _unreal_: same
04:38 PM _unreal_: nvz, regardless COAT wood frame
04:39 PM _unreal_: wood, does not matter if its chip, mdf, ply, solid etc... expands and contracts by a considerable amount every time the conditions change
04:39 PM _unreal_: and with TEMP as well
04:40 PM nvz: yeah.. I'm vaguely familiar with the laws of physics
04:40 PM _unreal_: so if you coat the wood with an epoxy !! or a varnish < it works it will minimize that
04:40 PM nvz: temp and pressure are directly related
04:41 PM _unreal_: how are you planning on setting up the bearings?
04:41 PM nvz: I planned on bolding em on with nuts, bolts and washers..
04:41 PM nvz: bolting even
04:41 PM _unreal_: that tells me little
04:42 PM _unreal_: how are you planning on setting up the bearings
04:42 PM _unreal_: What size machine, what size rail etc...
04:42 PM _unreal_: seeing as how your in the late stages of framing setup. its good to get second opinions
04:43 PM _unreal_: especialling considering you've said multi times, this is all new.
04:44 PM nvz: well.. the x/y axis are going to be two (for each axis) roughly 5ft din rails screwed on to the sides of the base and the gantry beam
04:44 PM nvz: and the y axis is gonna have two v groove bearings bolted onto each side of the gantry legs riding on each Y rail..
04:45 PM nvz: the x axis is gonna have 2 v grove bearings riding on each of the x rails.. two riding on top of the top rail and two riding on the bottom of the bottom rail
04:45 PM nvz: the z axis I bought a 500mm screw/round rail kit for that
04:45 PM nvz: it has two bearing blocks for each rail
04:47 PM _unreal_: 5' what thickness
04:49 PM nvz: idk its din rail..
04:49 PM nvz: the crap you put in a fuse box
04:49 PM nvz: its maybe 1/8in thick I guess
04:50 PM nvz: I'm whipped and not there anymore.. when I asked earlier if you had skype we were both in the shop with all the crap and you could've yapped all you wanted about this stuff and seen it for yourself :P
04:53 PM nvz: I for one don't care much about the details it all means nothing to me.. I'm not gonna understand any of it until I see it work or not work :P
04:53 PM nvz: joey on the other hand would love to have these sorts of conversations
04:54 PM nvz: he asks me that shit and I just shrug and say I don't care..
04:55 PM nvz: the wood glue we had was frozen and demulsified or some crap.. he asked should we just skip it.. and I said.... :P
05:03 PM nvz: all I know is, the guy that made the plans has a working machine that can mill 4' x 4' x 6" and I'm using his design with a few modifications.. motors with higher oz-in rating, steppers with a wider range of microsteps, an actual spindle as opposed to a cheap router.. but for the most part I used his parts and diagrams exactly
05:03 PM nvz: https://www.diybuilds.ca/shop-project-plans.html
05:03 PM nvz: I also did not follow his table plan at all
05:04 PM nvz: we made our table out of 2x4s and put wheels on it and I have no intention of using the bottom shelf for anything but storage or enclosing it
05:04 PM nvz: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jjdXpp77MdU
05:06 PM nvz: I am contemplating making the board the tool mounts to much smaller which should increase the workable z area.. cause I see no reason for it to be as large as it is
05:07 PM nvz: well, I considered changing the legs for the gantry and the z axis.. but I haven't actually /thought/ about it per-se so I probably won't
05:14 PM elmo40: dooo ittt!!
05:14 PM elmo40: you know you wanna
05:14 PM nvz: yeah I do, but I got too much shit going on to take the time to stop and think about it now..
05:15 PM nvz: and if I dont stop and think about it before changing something mechanical I'll wind up with something that'd confuse m.c. escher and won't work
05:16 PM nvz: we picked up another PC today.. older dell tower Athlon 64 system of some kind.. doesn't have a parallel port either :-/
06:51 PM _unreal_: freaking hell been asleep for 2 hours
07:05 PM Tom_L: ur supposed to sleep on the job and play on the weekend
07:07 PM XXCoder: lol if I slept at job I'd sleep 17 hours a day no thanks lol
07:20 PM _unreal_: I was sitting in front of my computer
07:20 PM _unreal_: just sucked down a cup of coffee
07:20 PM _unreal_: I guess pressure washing for 5 hours took it out of me
07:21 PM _unreal_: I did NOT want to be asleep
07:22 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, got more parts in the mail
07:22 PM _unreal_: got my 2020 extrusion T nuts for m4
07:23 PM XXCoder: yay
07:23 PM _unreal_: sadly I really cant use them
07:23 PM _unreal_: the rail is all m3 come to find out
07:23 PM _unreal_: I may have force drilled the Y rail
07:23 PM _unreal_: I'm not about to on the X rail
07:23 PM _unreal_: I have m3 stuff already ordered
07:23 PM _unreal_: just waiting
07:25 PM XXCoder: yeah
07:25 PM XXCoder: that was nasty to discover
07:25 PM XXCoder: im waiting for dang board heh
07:34 PM _unreal_: board?
07:36 PM _unreal_: If it wasnt such a POA in over size the holes on the rail I'd just do that but A: hard rails, and B: turning down the damn screw heads
07:36 PM XXCoder: laser engraver controller board
07:36 PM XXCoder: I ordered a replacement for crappy one i got
07:36 PM _unreal_: and not having a lathe ment I had to mount the @#$@# screws into my cordless drill and spin the head while grinding it on the bench grinder
07:37 PM _unreal_: oh ya that thing. and china. :) see ya next months
07:37 PM XXCoder: lol
07:37 PM _unreal_: I'm thinking about getting slightly larger rail that TAKES m4
07:37 PM _unreal_: I have not purchased the rail for Z yet
07:38 PM _unreal_: still trying to design it
07:38 PM _unreal_: @#$%#$% I wanted to go to the hardware store
07:38 PM _unreal_: slept right though my time slot
07:39 PM _unreal_: now I have to wait for tomorrow
07:40 PM XXCoder: oh well
07:41 PM _unreal_: wish I knew where it was, I have one of those tiny radioshack project boxes
07:41 PM _unreal_: got to thinking it would be great for a button controller for my daughters micro cnc
07:42 PM XXCoder: cnc pendant?
07:42 PM _unreal_: I have a nice little 3 button pcb
07:42 PM _unreal_: kind of
07:42 PM _unreal_: i'm setting up her little machine with a grbl controller
07:42 PM XXCoder: could always use snes usb version controller
07:42 PM _unreal_: so the standard start/stop reset etc...
07:43 PM _unreal_: the standard 3 buttons the arduino/grbl controller has
07:46 PM _unreal_: speaking of controllers I got two xbox360 wireless controllers at goodwill yesterday $3 each
07:46 PM _unreal_: I was like WHAAAAAA
07:46 PM _unreal_: those fuckers where $50 each just a few years ago
07:48 PM XXCoder: wow
07:48 PM XXCoder: nice
09:17 PM _unreal_: nothing going on I guess
09:20 PM XXCoder: yeah
09:26 PM _unreal_: working on soldering some parts for my daughts cnc that I have been neglecting to do
09:27 PM XXCoder: im workinf on erm well working on burnbing time off till that dang item arrives lol
09:27 PM _unreal_: wish I could find a DUAL adjustment schematic for an LED blinker using a transistor, cap resistors
09:27 PM _unreal_: burnbing?
09:27 PM _unreal_: working
09:27 PM _unreal_: workinf
09:29 PM _unreal_: fack... I've been waiting for 10min for the soldering iron to heat up. the power strip was off
09:30 PM XXCoder: lol
09:30 PM XXCoder: it would evenually heat up anyway if you waited
09:30 PM XXCoder: around 2 billion years
09:30 PM XXCoder: sol should have grown and heating earth by then
09:33 PM _unreal_: you know what really burns me..
09:33 PM _unreal_: My original motor controller setup for my current cnc machine was FINE. all and made DIY
09:33 PM _unreal_: BUT
09:33 PM _unreal_: I burned ALL of the motor controllers
09:34 PM _unreal_: A: the controllers I was using are fine but any wiring issues and they burn up. lacking safety features in chip
09:35 PM _unreal_: wasnt till I got a whole new motor motor controller that I spent a small fortune on that I discoverd one of the custom wire breakout boards had a bad solder join. LOOKED PERFECT
09:35 PM _unreal_: but one of the leads was F'ed some how it had a perfect rosin ring around the pin
09:35 PM _unreal_: it litteraly had no connection even though it looks 100% wet out
10:33 PM fjungclaus1 is now known as fjungclaus
10:36 PM elmo40: crazy
10:37 PM elmo40: my negative terminal on my 3D printer board melted. I didn't even have a heated bed! I soldered it up and now using SSR for all the heaters (have a heated bed now)
10:37 PM elmo40: and up'd to 24V
10:38 PM Tom_L: loose wire could cause that
10:49 PM _unreal_: heh I have a bunch of SSR's
10:50 PM _unreal_: right now I'm half heartedly working on one of the final parts to my daughters cnc machine http://cappels.org/dproj/simplest_LED_flasher/Simplest_LED_Flasher_Circuit.html
10:50 PM _unreal_: making an LED flasher
10:50 PM _unreal_: for the ESTOP
11:15 PM _unreal_: not very active tonight
11:15 PM _unreal_: ve7it, anything going on?
11:16 PM _unreal_: nvz, I assume is knee deep in saw dust
11:21 PM ve7it: _unreal_, got motor cable built... decided to make a little arduino uno script to spin the motor... attemting to draw schematic now for test setup
11:40 PM _unreal_: ya I spend the entire day doing outside crap :/
11:40 PM _unreal_: power washed the driveway, side area, pool area etc..
11:41 PM _unreal_: tomorrow I'm going to buy screening so I can fix the final screen in the pool area