#linuxcnc Logs
Nov 09 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:21 AM Deejay: moin
04:34 AM gloops: hmm, first attempt ive made to recover a job after a mistake, job had been removed from machine
04:34 AM gloops: worked perfectly
04:34 AM XXCoder: ?
04:44 AM gloops: i had 2 identical signs to make in oak, v carved lettering
04:44 AM gloops: first one cut perfect, put second one in and rushed touching z off - didnt even look at it, removed it from table - hadnt cut deep enough
04:45 AM gloops: no way to cut that same piece again now i thought
04:45 AM XXCoder: ouch yeah removing when setup is not repeatable
04:45 AM gloops: but, i got for a few points from CAD - the screw hole countersinks, and the dots on the i's
04:46 AM gloops: lined it back up by dropping v bit exactly into those on the shallow piece
04:46 AM gloops: worked perfect
04:47 AM XXCoder: nice :)
04:47 AM gloops: (go co-ordinates for a few points from CAD)
04:47 AM gloops: works with wood anyway, might not be accurate enough for metal
04:48 AM XXCoder: depends on tols
04:48 AM gloops: but had a thought, on a lengthy job i might stick a few v holes in round the edge in future, can always get the position back then
04:48 AM XXCoder: but yeah always good idea to check before remove :)
04:49 AM gloops: lol, done that 3 times now - took job out before looking, and realised straight away
05:45 AM JT-Mobile: test
05:45 AM XXCoder: failed
05:50 AM JT-Mobile: can't connect with hexchat so had to find kiwi irc
05:51 AM XXCoder: thats odd
05:53 AM JT-Mobile: SASL authentication failed* SASL authentication failed* *** Notice -- You need to identify via SASL to use this server
05:53 AM JT-Mobile: SASL is selected so dunno
05:55 AM XXCoder: wonder if your login for jt-mobile expired
05:55 AM JT-Mobile: worked here and I tried jthornton as well
05:57 AM JT-Mobile: wow 290 packages can be upgraded on this laptop
05:57 AM XXCoder: fun
05:57 AM XXCoder: I wish linux could do partial downloads
05:57 AM XXCoder: ie if program one file is changed update have only that file
05:58 AM JT-Mobile: hmm I forget the command that does that...
05:58 AM XXCoder: whole do have one postive that it can upgrade any version range of it anyway
06:04 AM JT-Mobile: freecad seems to be a good tool to make stl files for 3d printing but I don't think it will ever be usable for creating plasma cad
06:05 AM XXCoder: yeah?
06:05 AM XXCoder: wouldnt sketch be very good for that?
06:05 AM XXCoder: I always wanted to copy sketch off and into vector art thing
06:05 AM JT-Mobile: it's not designed with plasma in mind I don't think
06:05 AM XXCoder: because damn I love how sketch works
06:06 AM JT-Mobile: I think you can create a dxf faster in librecad than in freecad
06:06 AM XXCoder: probably. I havent tried that one
06:06 AM XXCoder: lemme see
06:07 AM XXCoder: installing
06:07 AM JT-Mobile: I'm still doing dist-upgrade lol
06:07 AM XXCoder: installed in seconds lol
06:08 AM XXCoder: man sometimes I love having ssd
06:08 AM XXCoder: oh yeah I tried that program before
06:08 AM XXCoder: it wasnt fun back then
06:09 AM XXCoder: looks better but not feeling like playing with it for now
06:14 AM JT-Mobile: I need to figure out how to draw in arch in freecad
06:15 AM XXCoder: hmm is it different from arc?
06:16 AM JT-Mobile: I think it's for drawing buildings and such
06:16 AM JT-Mobile: I want to draw a chicken coop
06:22 AM JT-Mobile: firefox got updated and required a restart
06:29 AM Tom_L: morning
06:29 AM JT-Mobile: morning
06:30 AM Tom_L: finally got linuxcnc on buster
06:30 AM Tom_L: there was a whole bunch of extra dependencies it wanted
06:31 AM JT-Mobile: did you figure out how to have gscreen dependencies resolved?
06:33 AM JT-Mobile: python-gtksourceview2 and python-vte have been dropped
06:41 AM _unreal_: I would love to find the libretto 50ct docking station :/
06:45 AM Tom_L: no i wasn't looking for those specifically
06:46 AM Tom_L: how can i show a list of installed files?
06:46 AM _unreal_: list of files on linux?
06:49 AM Tom_L: JT-Mobile, it installed girl.2.vte-2.9.1 if that replaces any of it
06:49 AM Tom_L: libvte-2.9.1-0 and -common
06:50 AM JT-Mobile: dunno what that is
06:50 AM Tom_L: me either
06:50 AM Tom_L: terminal emulator widget for GTK+3.0
06:53 AM Tom_L: https://www.giuspen.com/cherrytree/#downl
06:54 AM Tom_L: you might check there
06:57 AM Tom_L: andy says nothing uses python-vte
06:57 AM Tom_L: https://www.forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/37097-2-8-debian-buster
06:58 AM Tom_L: mmm, maybe no solution yet
07:01 AM Tom_L: http://forums.debian.net/viewtopic.php?f=30&t=137559&start=0
07:15 AM _unreal_: Is any one good at circuit board design?
07:16 AM _unreal_: is there any buddy out there... oooh oooooo
07:36 AM JT-Mobile: going to be a gorgeous day here clear skies 60°F
08:33 AM _unreal_: :P
10:04 AM _unreal_: why must fusion360 be such a pain in the ass to cad with
10:08 AM Tom_L: you could try freecad.
10:09 AM _unreal_: fusion is easy compaired to freecad
10:09 AM _unreal_: LOL
10:09 AM _unreal_: nothing tops designspark though
10:10 AM _unreal_: if designspark had CAM like fusion does I wouldnt even touch fusion
10:10 AM _unreal_: more often then not I'll use designspark make the DXF files and then open them in fusion
10:11 AM _unreal_: sigh.. waiting on my sister. she wants to go out for lunch today
10:11 AM _unreal_: AND she's board
11:09 AM _unreal_: milling a special mount for my mini vacuum pump
11:09 AM _unreal_: milling a part for my mini vacuum pump
11:10 AM _unreal_: hehe fooled my self the screen was scrolled up a bit I was like WTF why didnt it post
11:18 AM jymmmm: morning
11:19 AM _unreal_: afternoon
11:20 AM _unreal_: making a mounting base for my mini vacuum pump
01:45 PM Centurion-Dan2 is now known as Centurion_Dan
04:15 PM Deejay: gn8
04:51 PM _unreal_: sup
04:51 PM _unreal_: just got back from spending the day with my older sister...
04:52 PM _unreal_: I was expecting lunch
04:52 PM _unreal_: not 6 hours of Q&A
04:56 PM Javabean: you were meeting a female family member... 6hours Q&A session is fast
04:56 PM _unreal_: My sister is 10 years older then me
04:56 PM jymmmm: LMAO
04:56 PM _unreal_: she's in her 50's
04:56 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: 10 years older or younger, doens't matter
04:57 PM _unreal_: she's older
04:57 PM jymmmm: DOES NOT MATTER =)
05:05 PM _unreal_: arg... I need to find screw down zip ties
05:05 PM _unreal_: I forget if I have any
05:07 PM JT-Mobile: they make them
05:09 PM jymmmm: They also have those squares you screw down then use plain old zip ties
05:10 PM jymmmm: they are also peel-and-stick
05:10 PM JT-Mobile: they are peel stick fall off usually
05:11 PM _unreal_: ok so I need an opinion
05:11 PM _unreal_: I'm torn
05:11 PM _unreal_: I can wait till monday and get a piece of starboard that I didnt want till not possibly
05:11 PM _unreal_: not=now
05:12 PM _unreal_: or I can go get plywood
05:12 PM _unreal_: my aluninum extrusion framing is 24"x36"
05:12 PM Javabean: those peel and stick squares are awesome... many also have a spot for a screw, adhesive and screw redundancy!!
05:12 PM _unreal_: do you guys think I should go with 2 sheets of high quality MDF or ply glued together?
05:12 PM _unreal_: or go with the Starboard
05:13 PM _unreal_: I dont know if the starboard is straight or has any issues
05:13 PM _unreal_: as far as i know its likely flat
05:13 PM _unreal_: 3/4" thick but it would be HEAVY as shit!!!
05:13 PM _unreal_: I'm bolting thick extrusion
05:14 PM _unreal_: ?
05:15 PM _unreal_: Javabean, peel and stick hangers depend on there use.
05:15 PM _unreal_: if they are in the marine industry. unless you use the Screw GOOD LUCK theyw ill not stay in place
05:16 PM _unreal_: I guess I need to go to the hardware store
05:16 PM _unreal_: I dont have anything I need
05:16 PM _unreal_: on hand
05:17 PM Javabean: i am aware, but i was stating my experience... my friend thought i should choose one or the other. so all he has a the ones that need a screw, except for the 100 or so of the stick AND screw ones he has "bummed" from me
05:17 PM _unreal_: ya
05:17 PM _unreal_: I'm holding down a small transformer and a mini/micro vacuum pump
05:17 PM XXCoder: airplane parts tend to have tiny holes where in it
05:17 PM XXCoder: *somewhere
05:18 PM XXCoder: its for wire locking part in place.
05:18 PM _unreal_: I have a few of those RS project boxes
05:18 PM _unreal_: so i'm using one
05:18 PM XXCoder: one of stranger nuts made at work have not 1 or 2 but three tiny holes to lock it in place
05:19 PM _unreal_: figures the part I milled out today
05:19 PM _unreal_: was perfect for the metal bottom of the project box
05:19 PM _unreal_: BUT
05:19 PM Javabean: get an "eyebolt" or 5 with nuts and washers. drill a whole for it to go through, epoxy the eyebolt/washer/nut combo through the housing.... 4. profit?
05:19 PM _unreal_: I didnt account for the plastic screw recivers in side the plastic half of the project box
05:20 PM _unreal_: hehe
05:20 PM _unreal_: ya... nop
05:20 PM _unreal_: e
05:20 PM _unreal_: So what do you guys think?
05:20 PM _unreal_: should I go with mdf/plywood for the base of my extrusion cnc I'm biulding
05:21 PM Javabean: good, is the enemy of perfect... but then i am just a mushroom
05:21 PM _unreal_: frame foot print 24x36" OR should I get the starboard from work. I cant do that till monday. I also dont know the full quality of it
05:21 PM _unreal_: your just a mushroom?
05:21 PM _unreal_: ok... you keep telling your self that toad stool
05:22 PM Javabean: sorry, its a "slang-term" that i hear often... figured it to be english-wide by now
05:23 PM Javabean: mushrooms are raised by being kept in the dark, and fed fecalmatter(maybe even from bulls)
05:28 PM _unreal_: Javabean, toadstool is an other name for mushroom
05:28 PM JT-Mobile: now we are talking about mushrooms? what happened to chickens?
05:29 PM JT-Mobile: can't think of the term in python to make a variable from a string and a value
05:30 PM _unreal_: SOOOOOOOO ANNOYING!!!!!!! https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q8XdSpbpWpM
05:30 PM _unreal_: omg its still ringing in my mind SOOOOOOO annoying
05:31 PM * Javabean tries to remember if he was ever told he was poisonous by a doctor
05:31 PM _unreal_: watch the first 15 seconds of that video and you'll be looking for something poisonous
05:32 PM Javabean: maybe that is why it didn't have any comments
05:34 PM _unreal_: dont know
05:34 PM _unreal_: ok I'll be back in a half hour running to the store
05:34 PM _unreal_: no one answered me. I'm thinking I'm going to go with wood
05:35 PM XXCoder: learning how to speak one language?
05:35 PM _unreal_: no I just typed in toadstool and that was the first video link that popped up
05:35 PM XXCoder: ah lol
05:36 PM _unreal_: I said fuck it played it. watched for about 15 seconds before i was ready to throw the laptop
05:36 PM _unreal_: SOOOO annoying
05:36 PM _unreal_: I think its the accent
05:37 PM _unreal_: just made me angry heh
05:37 PM _unreal_: I was like NOOOO MORE....
05:40 PM * JT-Mobile figured it out 'e{0}'.format(2)
06:00 PM _unreal_: hum
06:20 PM JT-Mobile: ho
07:16 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
07:28 PM JT-Mobile: ping
07:28 PM Tom_L: pong
07:29 PM XXCoder: server not found
07:30 PM _unreal_: ! damn it I knew I forgot omething
07:30 PM _unreal_: I was going to get some allen keys
07:30 PM JT-Mobile: format c
07:30 PM XXCoder: alien keys
07:30 PM _unreal_: ya
07:31 PM JT-Mobile: making a bit of progress with opengl and pyqt5
07:31 PM _unreal_: ?
07:31 PM _unreal_: doing?
07:31 PM JT-Mobile: dxf to plasma
07:31 PM _unreal_: dxf to plasma?
07:32 PM _unreal_: as in cutting? or graphics
07:32 PM JT-Mobile: ?
07:33 PM JT-Mobile: plasma cutter
07:33 PM _unreal_: hum
07:35 PM Tom_L: good weather here today
07:35 PM Tom_L: ~70 ish i think
07:36 PM JT-Mobile: here too and tomorrow, hope to see the big cats and fly the phantom a bit
07:36 PM _unreal_: was shit all day to day
07:36 PM _unreal_: mid 60's and non stop rain
07:36 PM _unreal_: wispy rain
07:39 PM JT-Mobile: better than 30°F and rain
07:41 PM Tom_L: JT-Mobile you were saying some of the gui of linuxcnc have dependency issues on buster?
07:41 PM _unreal_: and that would be what I use to live in
07:42 PM JT-Mobile: yea gscreen and gommappaclys
07:42 PM JT-Mobile: or how ever it's spelled
07:42 PM Tom_L: haha
07:42 PM Tom_L: i've never used gscreen
07:42 PM Tom_L: i loaded gmocappy once
07:43 PM JT-Mobile: me too but just once
07:43 PM Tom_L: the qtpyvcp stuff seems ok
07:44 PM _unreal_: not even sure what those are
07:44 PM JT-Mobile: yea it's not built on old libs
07:44 PM _unreal_: well I'm bumbed
07:44 PM _unreal_: I dont have any plastic large enough to vac bag the boards I just got
07:45 PM _unreal_: I need to glue and VAC bag the board together
07:45 PM _unreal_: I have them screwed together right now to align them and to help keep them from warping
07:45 PM _unreal_: I picked up a 3/4 birch ply, and 3/4 MDF
07:45 PM _unreal_: going to glue them together via vacuum
07:46 PM _unreal_: sigh. guess I'll try the attic
07:46 PM _unreal_: I dont think i have any large enough. and I really dont want to drive back out to the hadware store
07:47 PM _unreal_: I do have time though :/
07:53 PM _unreal_: wow looks like the battery on this micro laptop stopped doing wierd stuff finally
07:53 PM _unreal_: doing doing this wierd thing where it would not charge when running only when the laptop was off
07:53 PM _unreal_: and when running in win98 the battery level would be doing down even though it was plugged in adn charging
07:54 PM _unreal_: now its at 100% and the battery light is showing green and its in windows
07:54 PM _unreal_: before the battery light was off
07:54 PM _unreal_: hum
07:54 PM _unreal_: going to let it sit for a bit
07:54 PM _unreal_: hehe
08:45 PM _unreal_: almost done putting together my mini vacuum pump
08:55 PM _unreal_: GOD I love my cnc machine
08:55 PM _unreal_: I was about to try and cut a square hole in this box
08:55 PM XXCoder: :) keep both hands above table top
08:55 PM _unreal_: but I'm just going to use my cnc machine to cut the hold and file in the corners
08:55 PM _unreal_: >:| quit looking
08:56 PM XXCoder: lol
09:04 PM _unreal_: ok
09:04 PM _unreal_: time to set that BIT as high as I can
09:05 PM _unreal_: I'm 99% sure I can mill this tiny 1/4 by 3/8th ish pocket
09:05 PM _unreal_: for as tall as the part is :)
09:12 PM Connor: Hey guys, question. What happens if during a home sequence the machine is traveling on the other side of the home switch (away from home) and encounters a limit switch? (Not shared)
09:13 PM Connor: Working on a laser cutter, and wanting to place the home switch toward the top, and a hard limit at the bottom. The top switch ISN'T a limit.. because we can install a honycomb bed, or use the bottom slat bed.
09:13 PM Connor: want to use a soft limit in to profiles..
09:23 PM _unreal_: are you talking about a positive and neg limits?
09:24 PM Connor: Well, my concern is that the z might be on either side of the home switch when it's told to home.. It'll find it in if it's above the home, but, if it's below, it's going to go all the way down and hit the lower limit.
09:25 PM Connor: I don't remember if linuxcnc just reverses direction to find the limit, or errors out and expects the user to move off of the limit.
09:25 PM Connor: and the move the axis above the limit.
09:26 PM _unreal_: lcnc will follow its settings nomally. so if it hits a limit it should strick and back off
09:26 PM _unreal_: if in operation and it hits a limit that its not expecting it should halt
09:26 PM _unreal_: and error
09:27 PM Connor: so, if it doesn't find the home switch, hits the limit, (again, not shared), it should reverse direction and seek the limit?
09:28 PM _unreal_: no
09:28 PM _unreal_: generally speaking home limits should sense and back off to a SET distance typically 2-5mm
09:29 PM _unreal_: to release the limit switch
09:29 PM _unreal_: if it should hit in the non home direction normally it should HALT and give an error
09:29 PM _unreal_: ether end is out of bounds
09:30 PM _unreal_: be they TIED to the same switch in parallel or independent to show + and - ends
09:30 PM Connor: Yea, so, if they're below the home switch, and turn the machine off for the day, and someone else comes in and uses it.. and tells it to home.. it's going to home in the DOWN direction, it's not going to find the limit.
09:30 PM _unreal_: if your not preforming a "homing" cycle the machine should halt with a limit error
09:31 PM _unreal_: its going to home based on the software settings
09:31 PM _unreal_: if you have a home switch in the + on Z then it should be set to home to + on the Z
09:31 PM _unreal_: but again that is a software setting in any cnc control software
09:32 PM _unreal_: software limits are more for confining the machine to a known work area
09:33 PM _unreal_: and software limits are useless if your machine looses steps and does not have encoders
09:34 PM Connor: Well, it's a laser, and it's 0 to negative amount. but, that 0 can change depending on the use of a honycomb mesh, or slat table. (honycomb add more height). If I set upper limit with honycomb in place, then it doesn't go high enough for the slats.. if I use the slats, then it could crash into the head.
09:34 PM Tom_L: Connor have you looked at these diagrams? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/config/ini-homing.html
09:35 PM Connor: Yea, today, and several times in the past when setting up a machine.. it's just this is a different setup than I normally do.
09:35 PM _unreal_: heh
09:35 PM Connor: and I couldn't remember the behavior if the home is in the middle of the travel and it's on the other side of the home.
09:36 PM _unreal_: Connor, I would setup a working offset
09:36 PM _unreal_: a "known
09:36 PM _unreal_: "known height limit" based on which base material your using
09:36 PM _unreal_: infact
09:36 PM Connor: material height is handled by touch probe.
09:37 PM * _unreal_ palm to face... no kidding
09:37 PM _unreal_: I'm not talking about material your cutting
09:37 PM Connor: but, work offset might work for slats vs honycomb.
09:37 PM _unreal_: I'm talking about your base mesh
09:37 PM _unreal_: honey come
09:37 PM Connor: sorry.. Been a very long day..
09:37 PM _unreal_: you said they are different heights
09:38 PM _unreal_: you could setup a script and if you have an available I/O par or what ever controller your using
09:38 PM _unreal_: add a limit switch if able that you can trigger using "X" base material
09:38 PM Connor: 7i76e with plenty of IO
09:38 PM _unreal_: if one is higher then the other one
09:38 PM _unreal_: use the switch for the higher one and locate it where it will be triggered when you swap them out
09:39 PM _unreal_: install in a way that its not likely to get damaged
09:39 PM _unreal_: optical limit, mechanical mag limit etc..
09:39 PM _unreal_: I would suggest a MEG. relay
09:39 PM _unreal_: mag
09:40 PM _unreal_: magnet
09:40 PM Tom_L: not as repeatable
09:40 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, I'm not talking about sensing height
09:41 PM _unreal_: I'm talking about sensing a different base material that is a different height. to offset the "home" location
09:41 PM _unreal_: which is what he is talking about
09:41 PM _unreal_: Connor, do you follow or did I loose you or am I lost?
09:42 PM Connor: Hmm.. maybe a micro switch under the honycomb.. would pop up if honycomb is removed. NC it uses the honycomb limit (as limit and home), NO it would switch to the slightly taller configured slat switch.
09:43 PM _unreal_: Connor, you could also just have multi home switchs
09:43 PM _unreal_: and just have an inline switch/relay that enables or disables a higher limit
09:44 PM _unreal_: think of it like a parallel switch and you have a 3rd switch to disable/enable one of the switches
09:44 PM Connor: Well.. one for the honycomb detection.. one for honycomb high limit/home, and one for slat limit/home and one for the lower limit
09:45 PM _unreal_: so if you have a switch that is triggered when the toller medium is in place it enables a higher limit switch. and if its not then the higher limit switch is just not enabled
09:46 PM _unreal_: think of it like having 3 switches 2 in series, and the single and the two in series are in parallel to each other
09:46 PM _unreal_: err
09:46 PM Connor: the honycomb detection switch just bypasses the slat home/limit so the honycomb limit/home works.
09:46 PM _unreal_: ok two switches in series. and one single switch, and have the single switch in parallel with the series switches. the series switches are like an and gate
09:47 PM _unreal_: both have to be on to be on
09:47 PM _unreal_: right
09:47 PM _unreal_: I dont know how your setup is but I'm just figuring you have two "home" switches at different heights. and the higher one has a lower switch that is only triggered by installing the taller medium
09:47 PM Connor: I can use the honycomb detection either to A switch between the two switches, or B) simply short the slat switch. Either way works.
09:50 PM _unreal_: That would likely be the simplest
10:04 PM _unreal_: so you have your solution?
10:19 PM _unreal_: well that sucks
10:19 PM _unreal_: all that work for nothing
10:20 PM _unreal_: just finished setting up my "mini vac pump" and looks like the walwart I ripped appart to put in the box is a DOA
10:20 PM _unreal_: and its a multi tap transformer?
10:20 PM _unreal_: wierd
10:20 PM _unreal_: it did have a switch for 220/120. I wonder if I clipped the worng input wire?
10:21 PM _unreal_: regardless I'm feeding it 120v ac and I'm getting 22v dc?
10:21 PM _unreal_: I would assume I'd be getting like 6v dc if I was trying to use the 220 wire
10:25 PM Tom_L: you wouldn't be getting DC from a bare transformer
10:25 PM _unreal_: nope never mind had the +/- wrong to the motor
10:25 PM _unreal_: though I dont get why I'm reading 22v dc
10:26 PM _unreal_: then again thats not under load
10:32 PM _unreal_: There DONE
10:32 PM _unreal_: I now have a working mini vac pump
10:49 PM _unreal_: So where is a good place to get timing belts?
10:49 PM _unreal_: I'm going to need one of a certain size for this new machine
10:49 PM _unreal_: so i can tie the two lead screws together
10:49 PM Tom_L: stock drive products
10:50 PM Tom_L: std-si
10:50 PM Tom_L: sdp-si
10:50 PM Tom_L: sry
10:51 PM _unreal_: ?
10:51 PM Tom_L: https://sdp-si.com/press/SDPSI-expands-timing-belt-inventory.php
10:51 PM _unreal_: got alink?
10:51 PM Tom_L: got my pulleys and belts there
10:51 PM _unreal_: OMG that woman is huge
10:52 PM _unreal_: in that link on the left
10:53 PM Tom_L: nope not here
10:53 PM Tom_L: oh, brouser was minimized
10:53 PM _unreal_: huh?
10:54 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, I'm really thinking I should see about trying to use the servo motors I have
10:54 PM Tom_L: https://www.sdp-si.com/products/details/timing-belt-detail.php
10:54 PM _unreal_: there is NO way I'm going to spend $250 on odrives though
10:54 PM _unreal_: I have these chips that are FOR the motor I have
10:54 PM _unreal_: and the motors I have are nema23
10:55 PM _unreal_: :/ I have one big brushed servo
10:56 PM _unreal_: then a hand full of these BLCD servos
10:56 PM _unreal_: bldc
11:10 PM Tom_itx: _unreal_, once you figure out what series belt you need you can use this to get the right length belt: https://sdp-si.com/eStore/CenterDistanceDesigner
11:10 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
11:13 PM _unreal_: I really want to use those BLDC mtors I have
11:16 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, I'm looking at this https://www.jameco.com/Jameco/Products/ProdDS/2134432.pdf
11:16 PM _unreal_: the down fall is that its one $35 chip per motor
11:38 PM _unreal_: god I'm SOO not tired