#linuxcnc Logs
Nov 03 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:04 AM CaptHindsight: FinboySlick: beam deflection boogie
02:55 AM Deejay: moin
03:52 AM jthornton: morning
03:52 AM XXCoder: yo
03:53 AM jthornton: hmm time changed?
03:53 AM XXCoder: did you see recommanded book?
03:53 AM jthornton: no
03:53 AM XXCoder: a sec
03:54 AM XXCoder: "basic techical drawing" by spencer/dygdon
03:54 AM XXCoder: pretty cool, and my copy even has homework from april 1993 lol
03:54 AM XXCoder: 91% grade
03:54 AM XXCoder: you guys dont really need it, but it was interesting though
03:56 AM XXCoder: my copy is 1980
03:57 AM XXCoder: https://www.amazon.com/Basic-Technical-Drawing-Henry-Spencer/dp/0022321500
03:58 AM XXCoder: oh lol i found my review
06:28 AM Tom_L: morning
06:28 AM XXCoder: yo
06:29 AM Tom_L: 31°F
06:30 AM Tom_L: warming up a bit
06:36 AM _unreal_: got to love children... I woke up went in took a piss went back to my room..... decided I needed to crap.. and my daughter goes running into the bathroom seconds before I
06:36 AM _unreal_: sigh
06:37 AM XXCoder: lol
06:38 AM _unreal_: XXCoder, did you install carbide?
06:38 AM XXCoder: nah no windows computer
06:38 AM _unreal_: ?
06:38 AM XXCoder: downloaded it in case
06:38 AM _unreal_: I thought you said you have a win/linux setup
06:39 AM XXCoder: nah
06:40 AM XXCoder: only windows pc I have is locked down system for videophone
07:52 AM jthornton: XXCoder, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2n1w19f_ai0
07:52 AM XXCoder: looking
07:52 AM jthornton: still lacking about 1/2 of the captions
07:52 AM jthornton: ran out of time and the title font was wonky
07:52 AM XXCoder: noticed
07:53 AM jthornton: yea it defaults to aakr or something like that lol
07:53 AM jthornton: is having the caption in that box better than on the bottom in a bar?
07:54 AM XXCoder: its better yeah
07:54 AM XXCoder: less eye travel
07:56 AM jthornton: I keep forgetting to use the mouse instead of the enter key to close a dialog lol
07:59 AM XXCoder: o see you found better way to do datdam
07:59 AM jthornton: yea
08:10 AM _unreal_: ok human again
08:10 AM _unreal_: any suggestions on a cheap rail to mount on extrusion?
08:19 AM jthornton: duct tape
08:19 AM _unreal_: Looking for 2 pieces of 600mm rail for the Y axis
08:20 AM XXCoder: MGN is so cheap nowdays lol
08:20 AM _unreal_: cheap... I'm rebuilding my home cnc machine "new" but building a larger version. I'm getting to many requests to make stuff thats to large
08:20 AM _unreal_: got link?
08:20 AM XXCoder: aliexpress
08:21 AM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/wholesale?catId=0&initiative_id=SB_20191103061446&SearchText=mgn+rail
08:21 AM _unreal_: I have extrusion that is 2" x 3"
08:22 AM XXCoder: cool :)
08:23 AM _unreal_: I have two 36" pieces
08:23 AM _unreal_: wish I had found more
08:23 AM _unreal_: for all I know I got the only two or the boat that I got it from that tossed it into the dumpster may have gotten rid of a lot more no idea :(
08:24 AM XXCoder: 3 feet isnt bad
08:24 AM _unreal_: nope
08:24 AM _unreal_: its enough to make a basic foundation
08:25 AM _unreal_: I have two sheets of 24x24 partical board VERY flast
08:25 AM _unreal_: I'm going to glue them to gether with throw away frp resin from home depo
08:25 AM XXCoder: jthornton: oh forgot to menion, it looks great! cant wait to see complete versiojn
08:26 AM _unreal_: so I'll make resin coat the wood stick the parts together real quick with a few screws to ensure alignment. and vac bag them together
08:26 AM jthornton: working on it now
08:27 AM jthornton: screwed it up this morning and had to start over :(
08:28 AM XXCoder: doh. isnt there script program to control mouse and stuff?
08:28 AM XXCoder: that way if you screw up you can fix it and repeat
08:29 AM _unreal_: LOL
08:29 AM _unreal_: I just went to toss a small magnet into a small stow draw... and it flew out
08:29 AM _unreal_: WTF
08:29 AM _unreal_: picked it up tossed it in again and jumped right back out
08:29 AM _unreal_: WTF
08:30 AM _unreal_: There was an other magnet in the draw and it just hit just right that it rejected before flipping
08:31 AM XXCoder: some stuff you just cant repeat
08:32 AM _unreal_: litter rally, dumde dumde dumde dum... toss. flip.... ? dumde dumde dumde dum... toss. flip.... ? ohhhh boy
09:18 AM ziper: ahhh a nice jacobs chuck https://bidera.hibid.com/lot/58080486/tormach-personal-cnc-1100/?cpage=2&ipp=100&q=&ref=catalog
09:31 AM Tom_L: jthornton, find your file?
09:50 AM Tom_L: that looks like a better way to create the plane
09:50 AM Tom_L: also wondering if you could create the plane from the base face and offset it
09:55 AM Tom_L: although your 2nd method is pretty quick
10:17 AM _unreal_: there bunch of yard work done
10:17 AM _unreal_: just ripped out a shite load of ferns that were choking out the Dragon fruit
10:17 AM _unreal_: ! do any of you know what dragon fruit is?
10:18 AM _unreal_: I could hear the people in the background that were bidding doing the WTF are you kidding
10:18 AM _unreal_: ziper, and the guy had to have it shipped
10:19 AM _unreal_: err winner
10:19 AM _unreal_: What a waste of money
10:19 AM ziper: did you see that there was a harbor freight brand vacuum pump that went for like 500 bucks
10:19 AM _unreal_: no
10:19 AM ziper: that was insane
10:19 AM ziper: it had a fancy plywood holder and some tube thing
10:20 AM _unreal_: are you talking the little $120 one's?
10:20 AM _unreal_: I have the more expensive one the 2 state
10:20 AM _unreal_: stage
10:21 AM _unreal_: currently I'm trying to find some dirt cheap linear rail
10:21 AM _unreal_: I have 2"x3" extrusion, and I'm building a new larger home cnc
10:21 AM ziper: the two stage, 150 bucks
10:21 AM _unreal_: two 36" pieces
10:21 AM ziper: they had some at the auction that nobody bid on that they gave to me
10:21 AM _unreal_: ya I knew it was something like that
10:21 AM _unreal_: ?
10:21 AM _unreal_: linner rails?
10:21 AM _unreal_: linear
10:22 AM _unreal_: oh you were at the auction?
10:22 AM ziper: I think thats what it is, but it doesnt look like the rail im used to
10:22 AM _unreal_: got a picture?
10:22 AM _unreal_: I need to get two 650mm rails as cheap as I can for the rebuild
10:22 AM ziper: it just has two triangular points on the top
10:22 AM _unreal_: center hold mount
10:23 AM ziper: it doesnt have a car that goes all the way around it
10:23 AM _unreal_: oh its likely V channel rail
10:23 AM _unreal_: that makeshift cnc was built with V channel
10:23 AM _unreal_: and sparse at that
10:24 AM _unreal_: I just got the final motor mount built and installed on my daughters cnc machine
10:24 AM _unreal_: looks decent
10:25 AM _unreal_: I still need to add the nuts to one of them and install one motor.
10:25 AM ziper: https://i.imgur.com/fFA76H5.jpg
10:25 AM _unreal_: nice and rusty
10:25 AM ziper: hell yeah
10:25 AM _unreal_: I wonder if that was a slide
10:27 AM _unreal_: I would assume that was a slide or was a two part rail system
10:27 AM _unreal_: but with out setting it sup I have no idea
10:28 AM _unreal_: I'm looking at this https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32900548483.html?spm=a2g0o.productlist.0.0.7f5d10besCUEGN&algo_pvid=a1629927-0024-48f5-989e-5ca64225389c&algo_expid=a1629927-0024-48f5-989e-5ca64225389c-0&btsid=1e815f6c-8f46-41aa-84ad-b3952fd009af&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_7,searchweb201603_52
10:28 AM _unreal_: though estimated delevery december
10:28 AM _unreal_: heh
10:28 AM _unreal_: I'm looking for sooner
10:29 AM ziper: whats the differences between the flat rail and the circular cross section ones
10:29 AM Tom_L: i like the box rails better
10:29 AM _unreal_: ?
10:29 AM _unreal_: ahh
10:29 AM _unreal_: the flat one's are captured
10:30 AM _unreal_: the round one's have a C shaped bearing
10:30 AM _unreal_: they are subject to flex
10:48 AM jthornton: Tom_L, yea got it
10:49 AM Tom_L: k
10:50 AM Tom_L: got buster working
10:51 AM Tom_L: xilinx was lacking a couple dependencies as well
10:57 AM jthornton: thanks
10:58 AM skunkworks: jthornton: have you played with the gpio on the pi?
11:02 AM * _unreal_ saves finger at skunkworks "quit playing with your pi"
11:02 AM _unreal_: saves=shakes
11:02 AM _unreal_: this auto complete is getting on my nerves
11:03 AM skunkworks: heh
11:04 AM _unreal_: I am leaning towards removing it.
11:05 AM _unreal_: #@$%@#$#% so annoyed, I just want a barrel connector large enough for this micro laptop
11:06 AM _unreal_: chances are the PSU for it is at goodwill somewhere and some ass seperated it
11:07 AM _unreal_: its only I/O on it I can use is the IRDA if I can get it to power on. and I cant even do that till I get the caveman barrel connector
11:07 AM _unreal_: thing is MASSIVE
11:07 AM _unreal_: for a 15v 1.5A
11:13 AM jthornton: skunkworks, no
11:19 AM FinboySlick: _unreal_: alligator clips.
11:20 AM _unreal_: ?
11:20 AM _unreal_: ahh
11:20 AM FinboySlick: Well, for the pin, you can probably just hook a bare wire.
11:20 AM _unreal_: barrel connectors dont work with gator clips
11:20 AM FinboySlick: (on the side connector.
11:20 AM _unreal_: well I'm heading to best buy
11:20 AM _unreal_: see if I can find a universal plug
11:21 AM _unreal_: I have a univeral psu 4amps upto 22v 1v adjustable
11:21 AM _unreal_: 12-22v
11:21 AM _unreal_: just no barrel connector large enough or if I do have no i have no idea where it is in the house
11:21 AM _unreal_: been to long
11:21 AM _unreal_: sigh
11:23 AM taloot: hello night guys
11:24 AM Rab: Late morning here.
12:29 PM skunkworks: jthornton: figured it out. I was confused - the hal GPIO numbering is the actual header pin numbering - not the rpi gpio numbering
01:28 PM flyback: btw
01:29 PM flyback: found out hwo I fried my cp2104 parts
01:29 PM flyback: usb to ttl serial
01:29 PM flyback: well a possibility
01:29 PM flyback: they are only +5 tollerant inputs if they are powered on
01:29 PM flyback: so if I was talking to a 5v hard drive serial bus and the u sb lost power, it can damage the part
01:55 PM jthornton: skunkworks, ah yea depends on how you define them
01:55 PM jthornton: and I take that back both my automated chicken coops use the gpio on a rpio
01:56 PM jthornton: rpi3
01:57 PM jymmmm: jthornton: rpi3 thermal snow test?
01:57 PM jymmmm: jthornton: having honey butter chicken tonight =)
01:57 PM Tom_L: yum
01:58 PM jymmmm: Tom_L want the recipe? SUPER easy and fast
01:58 PM jymmmm: Tom_L https://realhousemoms.com/wprm_print/61001
01:58 PM Tom_L: k
02:00 PM jymmmm: Tom_L Direct https://realhousemoms.com/honey-butter-chicken/
02:03 PM jthornton: jymmmm, having real chili con carne (no beans)
02:04 PM jymmmm: jthornton: Niiiice =)
02:04 PM Tom_L: phone
02:05 PM Tom_L: sounds like andy's gettin the gpio working on the pi's
02:05 PM jymmmm: jthornton: These are REALLY good, no milk or butter needed, just add water... I like the butter flavored the best (I've tried most of them)... https://idahoan.com/product-category/flavored-mashed About $1/each
02:05 PM jthornton: don't eat potatoes
02:05 PM Tom_L: diet?
02:06 PM jymmmm: Smokey cheese and bacon have too strong of a "artificial " flavor for my preference.
02:06 PM jthornton: not on a diet just watch carbs and I have to eat red meat a lot to keep up my red blood cell count
02:07 PM Tom_L: i should cut back too
02:07 PM jthornton: I'm anemic and if I eat lots of carbs on top of meat I'm fat too
02:07 PM jymmmm: jthornton: Yeah, I need to start watching my starches again too. The fire last year totally fucked up everything
02:09 PM jymmmm: *I* dont' watch carbs, as much as starched. But I don't deprive myself some once in a while
02:09 PM Tom_L: chicken looks good
02:09 PM jymmmm: Tom_L Might go good with pork too
02:09 PM Tom_L: see food diet here
02:09 PM Tom_L: :)
02:10 PM jymmmm: Tom_L lol
02:10 PM jymmmm: Tom_L It's super fast to make too
02:10 PM Tom_L: i'm not obese but i could lose a few
02:12 PM jthornton: finally got connected to the server with filezilla
02:12 PM Tom_L: i use that alot
02:13 PM jymmmm: rsync ftw
02:13 PM Tom_L: that and winscp on windows
02:14 PM jymmmm: COuld just use FUSE
02:15 PM jymmmm: Then just mount the server remotely in your file browser
02:15 PM Tom_L: looks complicated
02:15 PM jymmmm: Which? rsynce or fuse?
02:15 PM Tom_L: fuse
02:16 PM jymmmm: Not at all, once setup, it just looks like another drive/share
02:16 PM Tom_L: i wouldn't want that on all my pcs
02:16 PM jymmmm: why?
02:16 PM Tom_L: some are more 'public' than others
02:17 PM jymmmm: ah
02:19 PM jymmmm: I need to spend about $100 on medical stuff (no meds), any ideas?
02:19 PM Tom_L: PET scanner?
02:20 PM Tom_L: could be a fun toy
02:20 PM jymmmm: $100 pet scanner, IDK, is that just $100 for the pwer cord?
02:20 PM Tom_L: you can spend less than $100 on medical???
02:21 PM jymmmm: Actually I have to spend $500 before the end of the year, found a couple of first aid kits I'm considering.
02:21 PM Tom_L: hurry cane
02:22 PM Tom_L: can't help much there. i avoid that stuff
02:22 PM jymmmm: avoid?
02:23 PM Tom_L: doctors etc
02:26 PM Tom_L: got alot of snakes?
02:26 PM Tom_L: snake bite kit
02:29 PM jymmmm: Actaully, they say NOT to use those "snake bite kits" with the razor/sucktion cups, but I haven't looked in a LONG time to see how valid that is.
02:31 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/29151420
02:31 PM jymmmm: Tom_L $240 https://youtu.be/6-_OC5hihdg
02:31 PM SpeedEvil: Early incision decompression and VSD pressure suction of the swelling limb associated with combination therapy of drugs is a reliable and effective method for severe snakebite, and can promote physical rehabilitation and shorten hospital stay.
02:33 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/21035155 ' The use of any first aid was associated with a longer hospital stay than no use
02:33 PM SpeedEvil: But this is with some delay
02:33 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: So with FA (first aid), they had a LONGER hospital stay?
02:34 PM SpeedEvil: jymmmm: yes, but this may have been due to delay
02:34 PM jymmmm: ah
02:34 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/14747805
02:34 PM SpeedEvil: The Sawyer Extractor pump removed bloody fluid from our simulated snakebite wounds but removed virtually no mock venom, which suggests that suction is unlikely to be an effective treatment for reducing the total body venom burden after a venomous snakebite.
02:34 PM jymmmm: There was a thing about HV to treat snake bite; it "neutarlized" the venom, let me see if I cna find it...
02:35 PM SpeedEvil: Thermite also works.
02:37 PM jymmmm: https://www.wemjournal.org/article/S1080-6032(01)70702-8/pdf
02:39 PM jymmmm: Damn I cant' find it now
02:40 PM SpeedEvil: Funky.
02:43 PM jymmmm: Basically, in India a 12yo girl was bitten and unconcious. Two guys walking by saw this, used a lawn mower engine to shock her about 5 times, then left. About an hour later, the girl got up and walked away.
02:58 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: http://www.rubyranch.us/pb/wp_188e9617/wp_188e9617.html and http://www.teslatech.info/ttstore/report/articles/v1n1art/snake.htm
03:00 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: IDK, but for some reason it "makes sense" to me, and doens't seem it could cause more harm to a venom bite if you can't get to treatment within 30 minutes
03:02 PM CaptHindsight: I'll be happy to come out and bless your area to prevent elephant assault, bad juju, witches, bridge trolls etc
03:03 PM drdoc: jymmmm: I may have to try that
03:04 PM drdoc: I've developed a "Large Local Area Reaction" to red wasps, and we have a bunch around here
03:04 PM drdoc: I don't know that the reaction's dangerous but it takes weeks to heal from a bite
03:04 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: Yeah, it DOES sound like voodoo, I'll admit that. But it's hard to see that there are so many mentions of it and not have SOME positive results, even if not medically proven.
03:05 PM * drdoc has no issues with voodoo
03:05 PM drdoc: it frequently works
03:08 PM jymmmm: https://www.nytimes.com/1986/08/05/science/the-doctor-s-world-new-shock-therapy-for-snakebites.html
03:15 PM jymmmm: BONUS... stun gun also works to get a pitbull to "let go" if in a fight
03:25 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: Kinda interesting... https://www.backpacker.com/gear/can-an-electric-shock-neutralize-snake-venom
03:29 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: "Don't cut and suck" lol https://www.cprseattle.com/blog/treating-snake-bite-victims-what-not-to-do-and-why-not-to-do-it
03:31 PM Tom_L: soldier shoots off finger to cure snakebite
03:31 PM jymmmm: =)
03:31 PM Tom_L: so what if he gets it in the face?
03:32 PM jymmmm: shoot his face of course.... DUH <rolls eyes>
03:33 PM XXCoder: torque the necjk
03:36 PM jdh: tourniquet?
03:37 PM XXCoder: yeah
04:01 PM Deejay: gn8
05:03 PM _unreal_: ok so I got the libbeatti laptop running
05:03 PM _unreal_: win98 16mb ram not sure about the CPU yet
05:04 PM _unreal_: spent all damn day going to lots of different stores trying to find the power plug
05:04 PM _unreal_: I ended up drilling out one of the one's I have and it works
05:04 PM _unreal_: waste of a day
05:06 PM jthornton: XXCoder, finished the tutorial... I'll upload it in the morning
05:06 PM XXCoder: nice :)
05:07 PM jthornton: hmm what's next lol
05:07 PM Tom_L: jthornton :(
05:07 PM XXCoder: datum thing will be super useful
05:07 PM Tom_L: was gonna watch it
05:07 PM Tom_L: i wasn't quite sure how you did the plane
05:08 PM Tom_L: can you rotate planes in freecad too?
05:08 PM Tom_L: i suppose you can
05:08 PM jthornton: heck it's on 10MB I'm sending it up now
05:08 PM Tom_L: angular offset
05:09 PM Tom_L: may wish you had that at the end of the month
05:12 PM jthornton: I'll be down at Beaver Lake 4 days end of next week...
05:12 PM jthornton: https://youtu.be/XI_Ae2mYlrU
05:12 PM jthornton: still processing
05:12 PM jthornton: give it a few minutes
05:13 PM _unreal_: So what the hell do I do with a pentium 75mhz that has a 6" active matrix display and win98 heh
05:14 PM Tom_L: wish it was better
05:15 PM XXCoder: play retro games on it
05:15 PM jthornton: wish what was better?
05:15 PM Tom_L: his scavanged pc
05:16 PM jthornton: play Doom and Age of Empires
05:16 PM Tom_L: what did you end up using to edit the videos?
05:17 PM jthornton: Olive
05:20 PM skunkworks: jymmmm: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=llwq5QKDgWo&feature=youtu.be
05:21 PM jthornton: skunkworks, are you using the gpio with LinuxCNC?
05:22 PM skunkworks: jthornton: just testing it - for andy
05:23 PM jthornton: ah ok
05:23 PM _unreal_: how does one edit video with olive oil?
05:24 PM jthornton: use very little it has a lot of calories per ounce
05:24 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, using? raspberry?
05:24 PM _unreal_: jthornton, I was going to say
05:24 PM Tom_L: nice one jt
05:24 PM XXCoder: lovely video
05:24 PM skunkworks: _unreal_: playing with the rpi4
05:24 PM _unreal_: lol jthornton talk about click bait, they where eating out of your hand with that video
05:25 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, ahh
05:25 PM skunkworks: it would be a cheap way to have more i/o
05:25 PM jthornton: thanks, getting a bit better... still going to fast in some areas
05:25 PM Tom_L: he's got his own TV channel now :)
05:25 PM skunkworks: but for software step/dir - it would be pretty slow
05:25 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, I'd love to use the tinkerbaord with lcnc
05:26 PM _unreal_: I already have RTOS working and LCNC installed but I dont know how to write and setup a GPIO hal driver
05:26 PM _unreal_: I have a few on line post's that have a LOT of people following all wanting the same thing
05:26 PM Tom_L: jthornton, will freecad let you drive things with functions?
05:27 PM jthornton: yea I think so
05:30 PM jthornton: https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/Expressions
05:30 PM jthornton: for example you can name a constraint and use that name else where and get the same value
05:30 PM Tom_L: nice
05:31 PM XXCoder: jt how about more sketch tricks like say 5 holes around in hole agreement
05:31 PM XXCoder: sketching seem to be big area where docs is crap
05:31 PM XXCoder: and whats good way to do stuff vs bad
05:33 PM Tom_L: i could go thru the part design & sketcher book i've got for ideas but it basically just went thru all the features of catia
05:34 PM Tom_L: been a while and i bet i've forgotten alot of it
05:34 PM XXCoder: doing a secomd round will be much faster and you will remember it far longer
05:35 PM XXCoder: i forgot timing was like but something like in 2 years then in 10 years
05:35 PM Tom_L: using it more often would
05:36 PM _unreal_: found it, my jeteye
05:36 PM Tom_L: they encourage doing all the radius & chamfers on the solid and not in the sketch
05:36 PM _unreal_: serial IRDA adapter
05:36 PM _unreal_: the only usable I/O I have on that micro laptop is an IRDA port
05:36 PM Tom_L: and making simple sketches so down the road when a part needs modified it'a alot easier to fix
05:36 PM _unreal_: it has PCMCIA but i dont know if I have ANYTHING pcmcia any more
05:37 PM jthornton: https://www.freecadweb.org/wiki/Manual:Using_spreadsheets
05:37 PM _unreal_: would be cool to have the exapansion port ;?
05:37 PM jthornton: Tom_L, ^^
05:37 PM Tom_L: jthornton, i drew a set of hydraulic cylinders with a spreadsheet
05:38 PM Tom_L: wasn't part of the class... i was bored
05:38 PM jthornton: that can be a powerful feature for variable size parts
05:38 PM Tom_L: quick
05:39 PM XXCoder: jt yep! spreadsheet is definitely interesting. some limitions you cant send result of math to same sheet
05:39 PM XXCoder: theres 2 sheets
05:39 PM XXCoder: not as fancy as ms office or libreoffice
05:39 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Practice_Quiz3.jpg
05:39 PM Tom_L: that exercise was completely formula driven
05:40 PM _unreal_: GOOD lord I use to have pcmcia to cf adapters, pcmcia nic cards modem cards, and lots more
05:40 PM _unreal_: I think I got rid of all of it
05:40 PM _unreal_: likely when I moved to florida
05:42 PM _unreal_: I assume non of yall hav e any card buss stuff left
05:43 PM Tom_L: i've got a pile of PCMCIA stashed with an old laptop
05:43 PM XXCoder: threw mune away lol both of em.
05:43 PM XXCoder: both old wireless networing
05:44 PM _unreal_: so I spent the entire day today going to store after store looking for universal barrel connector adapters and PSU's
05:44 PM _unreal_: no one carries them
05:44 PM _unreal_: nether in the 12v type OR the wall wort type
05:44 PM _unreal_: only found a few and they where for "XYZ" laptops only
05:45 PM _unreal_: CVS, ace hardware, walmart, target, dollar store, and on and on
05:45 PM _unreal_: napa
05:45 PM _unreal_: I think we went to 18 stores
05:45 PM _unreal_: no one has them
05:46 PM XXCoder: online.
05:46 PM _unreal_: I just wanted to test the damn thing TODAY incase I wanted to return it
05:46 PM _unreal_: to goodwill
05:46 PM _unreal_: it works thankfully
05:48 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, for my assembly project i did this: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project.JPG
05:48 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project1.JPG
05:48 PM XXCoder: interesting
05:49 PM Tom_L: went to HD and got a bottle jack and took it apart. measured it all, created drawings for all of it and did that
05:49 PM XXCoder: i havent played around with assembly2 on freecad
05:49 PM Tom_L: the base was fun
05:49 PM XXCoder: that does look very complex
05:50 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base.JPG
05:50 PM Tom_L: all the passages connect etc
05:51 PM XXCoder: did you use OR or something?
05:51 PM Tom_L: what do you mean?
05:51 PM XXCoder: basically you model base without those complex hole pipes
05:52 PM XXCoder: and you design solid pipe design
05:52 PM Tom_L: oh, no
05:52 PM XXCoder: then you remove pipes from base leaving holes and pipes inside part
05:52 PM XXCoder: or is wrong word
05:52 PM Tom_L: i'd have to go look, it's been quite a while
05:52 PM Tom_L: that one took a bit to do
05:53 PM XXCoder: it'd probably way I would do for that part. I dont know if freecad allows "blind" pocket where both ends is inside part
05:53 PM Tom_L: i think i did something like that
05:53 PM Tom_L: offset pockets
05:54 PM Tom_L: 21 sketches
05:55 PM XXCoder: just for base.
05:55 PM XXCoder: man
05:58 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base1.JPG
05:58 PM XXCoder: interesting
05:58 PM jthornton: ok I have spreadsheet driven parametric drawing figured out lol
05:59 PM XXCoder: man wish freecad can do cutaway like that
05:59 PM XXCoder: so far I know its impossible
05:59 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, nice
05:59 PM XXCoder: awesome :)
05:59 PM jthornton: it's a tad clunky but works fine
06:04 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base2.JPG
06:04 PM Tom_L: those are some internal pockets
06:05 PM XXCoder: how the heck is that milled?
06:05 PM Tom_L: they drill thru the side and plug it
06:05 PM XXCoder: ah makes sense
06:07 PM Tom_L: there's another one that comes from the oil resivoir
06:08 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/practice_drawings/Assembly_project_base3.JPG
06:10 PM XXCoder: so it keeps stuff oiled
06:10 PM Tom_L: the oil goes from resivoir to the pump assembly then out to the cylinder
06:10 PM Tom_L: 2 check balls
06:11 PM Tom_L: that's what the counterbore is for
06:11 PM jymmmm: skunkworks: That's slick =) two channels?
06:23 PM Tom_L: jymmmm https://www.amazon.com/Rigol-DS1052E-Digital-Channels-sampling/dp/B003MYND5A
06:23 PM Tom_L: probably it
06:23 PM Tom_L: err his might be fancier
06:24 PM Tom_L: https://www.rigolna.com/products/digital-oscilloscopes/
06:30 PM _unreal_: an other all day rain day
06:30 PM _unreal_: very annoying
06:31 PM _unreal_: all I want to do is bring in my two bits of partical board, glue them and put them under vacuum
06:32 PM _unreal_: so that I can have my nice to cnc base
06:33 PM _unreal_: nice new
06:33 PM _unreal_: sigh
06:33 PM _unreal_: so many projects dont know what I want to do
06:33 PM XXCoder: too many irons in fire problem
06:33 PM roycroft: i built a venturi vacuum pump 10 years ago
06:34 PM roycroft: with the intent to do some vacuum glue-ups/veneering
06:34 PM XXCoder: pick one that have largest effect on other projects
06:34 PM roycroft: but i could not afford a bag for it
06:34 PM roycroft: so i've been using it off and on for vacuum clamping over the years
06:34 PM roycroft: i got a nice 30mil poly bag last year off cl
06:34 PM roycroft: and just a couple days finally did my first panel glue-up with it
06:34 PM roycroft: it worked brilliantly
06:38 PM jymmmm: Tom_L https://www.amazon.com/Rigol-DS1054Z-Digital-Oscilloscopes-Bandwidth/dp/B012938E76/
06:39 PM Tom_L: yeah, that looks closer
06:41 PM _unreal_: SWEET...
06:42 PM _unreal_: I'm sending doom2 via IRDA from my ibm p200 laptop to that micro laptop
06:42 PM _unreal_: lol
06:42 PM _unreal_: IRDA is the only I/O I have for it
06:42 PM _unreal_: any of you ever done IRDA network gaming?
06:43 PM _unreal_: been along time for me but I use to
06:43 PM _unreal_: OMG 60min to transfer
06:43 PM _unreal_: 14mb
06:44 PM XXCoder: ir gaming heh been a while
06:44 PM _unreal_: down to 150min
06:44 PM _unreal_: 50
06:45 PM _unreal_: I bet it will be like 30min total
06:45 PM _unreal_: should be transfering at the full 115 what ever it is mbit rate
06:45 PM _unreal_: 2x faster then a 56k modem
06:46 PM _unreal_: GOD I remember when IRDA speed would be an internet speed wet dream
06:46 PM XXCoder: 2400 baud was first modem I had
06:46 PM XXCoder: ironically it was in 14k era
06:49 PM _unreal_: I believe my first modem was a 14,4
06:50 PM _unreal_: My parents computer " "
06:51 PM _unreal_: then when I got older I got to have my own computer and I had a 14.4 that turned into a 28.8 and then I purchased a 56k x2 EXTERNAL "lateedaaa" usr modem
06:51 PM _unreal_: I got the external mainly because I wanted to see the blinking lights and could tell if there were phone line issues
06:51 PM _unreal_: OMG I'm transfering via IRDA.... its been so long
06:52 PM _unreal_: wish I had the docking base for that tinything.... I have a par.. laplink cable. could transfer those files in 5min
06:59 PM _unreal_: quiet
07:00 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, I'm transferring files via IRDA
07:03 PM _unreal_: sigh..
07:18 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: why?
07:19 PM XXCoder: no other means I guess
07:19 PM XXCoder: ancient laptop
07:19 PM Tom_L: tty
07:19 PM jymmmm: ancient laptops had IR ?
07:20 PM _unreal_: its the only I/O
07:20 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, IRDA was the first bluetooth
07:24 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: only IO on what? And you need a 2nd device to use that as well. No USB/serial port?
07:24 PM _unreal_: toshiba libretto 50ct
07:25 PM _unreal_: thats a pentium75
07:25 PM _unreal_: back in the 90's I'd have KILLED for this thing with the docking station
07:25 PM _unreal_: I'd have been the coolest kid on the block
07:26 PM XXCoder: in 90s I took 7 months to buy all parts to build 386 sx 33 mhz
07:27 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: it's got a serial port and card slot and fdd
07:28 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: and more importantly, wth are you even still using it in this day and age?
07:28 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, it has NON of that
07:28 PM _unreal_: unless you have the docking station
07:28 PM _unreal_: the only I/O on the laptop its self is a pcmcia and IRDA
07:29 PM _unreal_: I dont have a docking station and I dont have any pcmcia cards any more
07:29 PM _unreal_: if I did I'd be using the pcmcia to CF reader I use to have. or a network card
07:29 PM jymmmm: PCMCIA to CF adapter
07:29 PM jymmmm: PCMCIA netwrk card
07:30 PM jymmmm: those have GOT to be cheap/free these days
07:30 PM SpeedEvil: CCMCIA or Cardbus
07:30 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, they more or less dont exist
07:30 PM _unreal_: unless you buy online
07:31 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: Type 3 so can pplug in a hdd or adapter
07:31 PM _unreal_: the one I have was released in 2001
07:31 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: And why are you still using it?
07:31 PM _unreal_: this one only has type 2 I believe
07:31 PM _unreal_: I just got it from goodwill
07:31 PM jymmmm: I just read the specs, it's type 3
07:32 PM _unreal_: why not its COOL as shit its history and it work
07:32 PM _unreal_: s
07:32 PM jymmmm: So is a Cray
07:32 PM _unreal_: type 3 a dual slot
07:32 PM _unreal_: this has a single slot
07:32 PM jymmmm: Specs straight from toshiba... https://support.dynabook.com/support/staticContentDetail?contentId=637897&isFromTOCLink=false
07:33 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: and it came with a IR dongle?
07:33 PM SpeedEvil: Type II is not inherently a dual slot
07:33 PM SpeedEvil: it may be a single slot that accepts thick cards
07:33 PM SpeedEvil: I would cite the exact page of the standard, but I composted it 10 years ago
07:33 PM _unreal_: ds Type II
07:34 PM _unreal_: type 2
07:34 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: Admit it, you turned it into fahionable jewlery
07:34 PM SpeedEvil: No, actual compost
07:34 PM _unreal_: EXPANSION SLOTS
07:34 PM _unreal_: One 16-bit, 5.0V PC Card Slot Yes: Holds one - 5mm PC Cards Type II
07:34 PM _unreal_: as I said its type2
07:34 PM jymmmm: ah, the port replicator had type 3
07:35 PM SpeedEvil: Annoyingly, there are no USB PCMCIA cards.
07:35 PM jymmmm: Optional Enhanced Port Replicator (PA2718U)One (PS/2) 101 Keyboard port, One (PS/2) Mouse port, One RGB port,One Serial port, One parallel port, One Type III PC Card slot
07:35 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: you sure?
07:35 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, I was going to say I'm looking right at it and I KNOW type I II and III pcmcia slots. they are easy to identify if you know them
07:35 PM _unreal_: yay doom2 transfer is done
07:35 PM SpeedEvil: jymmmm: fairly sure - I was looking for one for my very older laptop
07:35 PM SpeedEvil: (pre cardbus)
07:37 PM jymmmm: https://www.newegg.com/p/pl?d=pcmcia+to+usb+adapter
07:39 PM jymmmm: I do have a PCMCIA to serial adpater
07:39 PM jymmmm: as well as a pcmcia to CF adapter
07:39 PM SpeedEvil: jymmmm: Some of those are even later than cardbus
07:39 PM SpeedEvil: I specifically mean 16 bit ISA PCMCIA cardbus was 32 bit
07:40 PM SpeedEvil: expresscard is post cardbus
07:40 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: ah ok.
07:40 PM SpeedEvil: And some of those are the wrong direction
07:40 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: Well hell, I have a 3com network card that works in MS-DOS =)
07:41 PM SpeedEvil: If it has a gold surface on the top of the card connector on the front face, it is not PCMCIA
07:41 PM jymmmm: 10, no 100 =)
07:41 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.newegg.com/ads-tech-dlx-181-usb-ieee-1394-pcmcia-card/p/N82E16815203002?Description=pcmcia%20to%20usb%20adapter&cm_re=pcmcia_to_usb_adapter-_-9SIAKRCACU1640-_-Product - but cardbus
07:41 PM jymmmm: Nope, no gold
07:41 PM SpeedEvil: This would have been for my 486/75 laptop
07:41 PM jymmmm: Oh, I might have a FW card too
07:42 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGHEEJtXWMY
07:43 PM _unreal_: ya its slower then death
07:43 PM jymmmm: He's creeeeeeeeepy
07:44 PM _unreal_: well time to make dinner
07:44 PM SpeedEvil: I did not watch the video
07:45 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: Good, you didn't missing anythinggg
07:46 PM SpeedEvil: Just a very, very teeny laptop for its time.
07:47 PM SpeedEvil: My one was only notable that I had replaced the front keyboard surround with cardboard, due to an unfortunate issue when baking paint onto it
07:49 PM drdoc: hey, all
07:49 PM drdoc: the replacement breakout board finally came, and lo! my motors turn!
07:49 PM jymmmm: I have an IdeaPad S10, saldy linux/chrome 32bit does NOT support netflix
07:50 PM jymmmm: drdoc: congrats
07:50 PM drdoc: thanks!
07:51 PM drdoc: hey, I was reading up on unipolar steppers, and whichever article stated that a driver set/rated for to high an amperage can overheat the motor
07:52 PM drdoc: is that correct? I've never worked with a system where the provider determined the consumer's draw
07:55 PM CaptHindsight: buying fasteners at Menards is terrible, they don't mark the thread pitch on any metric screws..
07:55 PM CaptHindsight: just coarse, fine and fine
07:55 PM CaptHindsight: yes 2 fines
07:55 PM CaptHindsight: not fine and extra fine to at least be some help
07:56 PM CaptHindsight: those stupid bags of nuts and bolts
07:56 PM CaptHindsight: (this rant is now complete, you may resume you normal activity)
08:03 PM * jymmmm hugs CaptHindsight
08:09 PM Tom_L: it's all good. those screws are made to 'stretch to fit'
08:33 PM drdoc: you mean "stretch the hole to fit"?
08:33 PM drdoc: I'm very familiar with that kind
08:33 PM Elmo40: you have a hole stretcher?
08:33 PM drdoc: yes
08:34 PM drdoc: put a 1/4-20 screw in an M6 hole, you'll have one too
08:35 PM drdoc: for extra points, you can use a worn-out Crescent wrench and shrink the head
08:36 PM jymmmm: round bolt heads are the best!
08:36 PM drdoc: indeed they are
08:39 PM drdoc: so....
08:39 PM drdoc: stepper motors and stepper drivers
08:40 PM drdoc: if you can't match amperage, which should be rated for more snow?
08:40 PM drdoc: snow? autocorrect outdid itself.
08:40 PM drdoc: amps*
08:55 PM skunkworks: _unreal_: pretty sure I played doom over ir (2 100mhz toshiba satellites)
09:34 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest89189
09:49 PM _unreal_: OMG... I am transfering duke3d got like 30min left
09:49 PM _unreal_: doom2 at 15mb took an hour, duke3d is 44mbs
09:49 PM _unreal_: heh
09:49 PM _unreal_: very odd. says solid 115.2 connection. I would assume it would be going a lot faster then that
09:50 PM _unreal_: considering a 56k modem could download 16mb an hour
09:50 PM _unreal_: god the warez I would download back in the day
09:50 PM _unreal_: via dialup
09:55 PM drdoc: _unreal_: nice score
09:55 PM skunkworks: played doom(2), descent and hexan over dialup... wasted way too much time
09:55 PM drdoc: I played Doom on a $750k computer once
09:56 PM drdoc: graphics were awful
09:56 PM skunkworks: much funner doing a lan party..
09:56 PM skunkworks: next?
09:56 PM drdoc: Was doing LPAR/AIX training for IBM
09:56 PM skunkworks: sillicon graphics?
09:57 PM skunkworks: ah
09:57 PM drdoc: had access to a 32-core POWER4 box
09:57 PM drdoc: high-end graphics has never been IBM's thing
09:58 PM drdoc: still
09:58 PM drdoc: it was a pretty good rush gaming on that behemoth
10:02 PM _unreal_: hum
10:02 PM _unreal_: ya
10:02 PM _unreal_: I have all of those games on my ibm p200 laptop
10:02 PM _unreal_: hence I'm transfering a few games via IRDA :/
10:03 PM _unreal_: GOOD LORD if I need anything its a pcmcia-usb card
10:04 PM drdoc: heh
10:04 PM drdoc: I have a CardBus 1394 card somewhere
10:05 PM drdoc: and a PCMCIA SCSI adapter, and a couple of 802.11b cards, and several ethernet cards with their dongles
10:06 PM drdoc: when that stuff started showing up for $0.99 at goodwill I collected a boxfull
10:06 PM drdoc: _unreal_: word to the wise - I've yet to find a CardBus Wifi card that can do WPA auth
10:07 PM _unreal_: omg ... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N8gqgybDLD8 at 19min mark they show the same micro laptop mine is a 50ct they show a 70ct
10:07 PM drdoc: a libretto?
10:08 PM _unreal_: ya
10:08 PM drdoc: I wanted one SO BAD back then
10:08 PM drdoc: oops
10:08 PM _unreal_: I just got one at goodwill last night
10:08 PM drdoc: dinner calls
10:08 PM drdoc: later!
10:09 PM taloot: Morning
10:09 PM XXCoder: _unreal_: yep wanted that same laptop
10:13 PM _unreal_: taloot, morning?
10:13 PM _unreal_: 11pm here
10:13 PM XXCoder: theres always morning somewhere
10:13 PM _unreal_: no....
10:14 PM _unreal_: its always 5 oclock somewhere
10:14 PM _unreal_: :)
10:14 PM XXCoder: always 24 hours of morning heh
10:17 PM roycroft: it's only 5 o'clock somewhere approximately every 38 minutes
10:18 PM XXCoder: old days before timezones and such people just set clock according to sun
10:19 PM roycroft: it was always 5 o'clock somewhere then
10:26 PM _unreal_: roycroft, then now..... whats changed?
10:27 PM _unreal_: sigh... 11:20
10:27 PM _unreal_: and I got to work in the morning
10:27 PM _unreal_: so I just rebooted the toshiba into dos and played doom2. it was playing crappy in windows. and played like a pentium playing doom2 in pure dos
10:28 PM _unreal_: I assume it needs a clean install of win
10:28 PM _unreal_: no easy way to do that though. not with out some supporting hardware
10:28 PM _unreal_: ! I could just boot to dos... delete the windows and program files folders and re-install
10:29 PM _unreal_: it does have the win98 cab files on the HD
10:29 PM _unreal_: then again I'd need to hack out the win98 reg number currently being used
10:30 PM drdoc: _unreal_: Magic Jelly Bean
10:33 PM drdoc: it's a small program; moving it via IR shouldn't be awful
10:34 PM XXCoder: chip challenge is that era heh
10:40 PM _unreal_: taloot, hello?
10:40 PM _unreal_: drdoc, it is awful
10:40 PM _unreal_: awful slow
10:41 PM _unreal_: nuk nuk nuk...
11:17 PM _unreal_: heading to bed but amazing
11:18 PM _unreal_: the little toshiba laptops battery is charging and holding power
11:18 PM _unreal_: dont know how but I'll test it as time allows
11:18 PM _unreal_: night
11:38 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil