#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 28 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:28 AM flyback: https://www.liveleak.com/view?t=CH3RD_1571685536 <--- *CANUCKED**CANUCKED**CANUCKED**CANUCKED*
12:37 AM XXCoder: ?
02:40 AM Deejay: moin
03:20 AM XXCoder: lol the infamous 11foot8 is no more
03:20 AM XXCoder: they are fixing and rising it to 12 foot
05:35 AM Tom_L: morning
05:36 AM XXCoder: morning
05:36 AM jthornton: morning
05:47 AM Tom_L: got xilinx set up on the test pc last evening
05:48 AM Tom_L: gonna hunt down a nic card today maybe
05:48 AM Tom_L: the pcie one i had is dead
05:54 AM jthornton: does the mb nic work?
05:54 AM Tom_L: yeah
05:54 AM Tom_L: i tested both the 7i80 & 7i92 on the mb nic and both work
05:54 AM jthornton: just get a usb nic for internet
05:55 AM Tom_L: i dual boot it so i don't want to mess up the other setups either
05:55 AM jthornton: ah ok
05:56 AM nubcake is now known as nubcake_
05:56 AM nubcake_ is now known as nubcake
05:56 AM Tom_L: odd one with the video too. it has 2 ports, the 'rectangular' plug and the hdmi
05:57 AM Tom_L: i had been using the hdmi one but when i took the nic card out of the pcie slot the bios wouldn't come up
05:57 AM Tom_L: it switched over to the rectangular plug
05:57 AM Tom_L: i'd been using 2 monitors on that one but quit a while back
05:58 AM Tom_L: linux would boot to the hdmi plug monitor just fine but not the bios screen
06:00 AM Tom_L: not sure why the pcie slot would affect that but aparently it did
06:24 AM jthornton: hmm the honda insight has a 270v battery under the rear seat
06:29 AM jthornton: looks like some rain mid week here
06:30 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JR1BwcFyexQ printing on keycaps
06:31 AM XXCoder: 20 min bit large video
06:31 AM XXCoder: its mainly lasers, but can do it on any plastic apparently
08:02 AM sync: doubleshot or gtfo
08:03 AM XXCoder: got no idea what doubleshot so I guess ill gtfo
08:06 AM sync: https://www.velocifiretech.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/keycap-600x600.jpg
08:07 AM XXCoder: ah yeah thats what my apple keyboard has yeah
08:08 AM XXCoder: my common ones like N and E have pretty serious dents and still have letter
08:50 AM pink_vampire: hi
08:50 AM pink_vampire: andypugh? are you around?
09:24 AM Elmo40: morning pink_vampire
09:25 AM Elmo40: did you get any engraving done?
09:36 AM pink_vampire: trying to clean the wheels of my office chair
09:53 AM pink_vampire: Elmo40: fail :(
10:27 AM gregcnc: take your office chair mud bogging or??
10:28 AM pink_vampire: I need new wheels
10:48 AM * JT-Shop just got a surprise chicken
10:56 AM Elmo40: JT-Shop, time for bbq?
10:57 AM gregcnc: in a few months maybe?
11:11 AM jthornton: lol it's a wooden chicken
12:13 PM Loetmichel: soo, finally got the two boxes for the CNC604 routers screwed together... (sorry for shakey picture) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17562&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
12:22 PM FinboySlick: Loetmichel: add rubber and you're ready for flood coolant!
12:24 PM Loetmichel: FinboySlick: already ahead of you: bought a big tube of acrylic sealant and white "elephantenhaut" paint for the inside
12:47 PM rmaw: https://snipboard.io/SpWh8u.jpg
12:47 PM rmaw: edm working!
12:51 PM pink_vampire: rmaw: can I be your friend?
12:51 PM FinboySlick: rmaw: Neat. What did you use as a power circuit?
12:54 PM rmaw: https://snipboard.io/KYD63h.jpg
12:54 PM rmaw: the big generator on the left
12:55 PM rmaw: its not homemade, made in the 1980s
12:55 PM pink_vampire: rmaw: you are amazing!
01:48 PM jymmmm: hola
02:06 PM Tom_L: jymmmm runnin on batteries?
02:06 PM jymmmm: Tom_L Ya know, it's a bitch to do an oil change on the gnerator at 6am
02:07 PM Tom_L: better than chaning a flat at 4
02:07 PM jymmmm: Tom_L The petcock valve hasn't arrived yet =(
02:07 PM jymmmm: Tom_L This is true.
02:07 PM Tom_L: then going to buy a new tire
02:08 PM jymmmm: Tom_L Also, starting the wood stove in the dark is a bitchhhh too, lol
02:08 PM Tom_L: kid tore up a tire on the way to work this am
02:08 PM jymmmm: Tom_L no spare?
02:08 PM Tom_L: well yeah
02:08 PM Tom_L: if you can call them spares anymore
02:08 PM jymmmm: donuts!
02:09 PM jymmmm: That's okey, many cars dont even come with spare donuts now
02:09 PM Tom_L: dark out in a bad end of town at 4am
02:09 PM Tom_L: yeah jt didn't get one on his new car
02:09 PM jymmmm: Eeeeesh
02:09 PM jymmmm: That's just wrong
02:10 PM jymmmm: Tom_L But... the HF 750W inverter has been working surprsingly well, I'd buy again.
02:11 PM jymmmm: It ran an electric blanket all night long and still at 12.5V
02:12 PM jymmmm: well, blanket, light, and phone all night
02:14 PM jymmmm: They added at least a day to the blackouts
02:17 PM Tom_L: what's it get down to at night there?
02:17 PM Tom_L: supposed to snow here in a day or so
02:18 PM jymmmm: 63/40 today, 58/34 tomorrow
02:18 PM jymmmm: Hmmm, I need to grab more wood off the pile it looks like
02:19 PM jymmmm: Tom_L What are you doing for heat?
02:20 PM Tom_L: gas
02:20 PM jymmmm: ng or propne?
02:20 PM Tom_L: ng
02:20 PM Tom_L: in the city
02:20 PM jymmmm: ah gotcha
02:20 PM jymmmm: wall heater?
02:21 PM Tom_L: both
02:21 PM Tom_L: central and i've got a wall heater in the basement
02:21 PM jymmmm: gotcha
02:21 PM Tom_L: keeps the house cozy enough
02:21 PM Tom_L: i've had to use it
02:22 PM Tom_L: gen keeps the essentials goin
02:22 PM jymmmm: Yeah, I don't have anythign against a wall heater, kinda brain dead and just works
02:23 PM Tom_L: radiant heater
02:23 PM FinboySlick: jymmmm: Was actually having a little thought for you this morning. Glad to see you're ok at least.
02:24 PM drdoc: Tom_L: data point: the parts for 2 buffered/opto-isolated breakout boards come to about $30
02:24 PM drdoc: so double the price of chinaco
02:25 PM roycroft: it's getting pretty crazy in norcal again
02:25 PM roycroft: 150km/h wind gusts
02:25 PM drdoc: yeow
02:25 PM drdoc: data point #2:
02:26 PM roycroft: and i guess it's official now - next year's fire season has begun already, before this year's fire season has ended
02:26 PM roycroft: so there is no more fire season
02:26 PM roycroft: wildfires are just a fact of life all the time
02:26 PM drdoc: it's getting difficult to order electronic components that aren't subject to "possible" unspecified tariff charges
02:27 PM SpeedEvil: http://iscaliforniaonfire.com/
02:27 PM drdoc: roycroft: and global warning is still a myth?
02:27 PM roycroft: for them that profit from climate change denial it is and always will be
02:27 PM drdoc: yeah...
02:28 PM roycroft: donut let truth get in the way of profit
02:28 PM drdoc: for the rest of us, it's getting very real.
02:28 PM Elmo40: pink_vampire, what is wrong with bbq chicken?
02:28 PM * drdoc toodles off to mail stuff
02:28 PM pink_vampire: it's his pet
02:28 PM roycroft: it's very real for everyone
02:29 PM roycroft: that is the thing about objective truths - they are true whether you believe them or not
02:46 PM jymmmm: FinboySlick: Ah, thanks, much appreciated. I'm doing far better than most by a LONG shot. Many don't have generators so losing al the food in the freezer/frig, and NFC what they are doing about meds/insuline, etc
02:46 PM FinboySlick: jymmmm: Hamster wheel and child labour. You'll save on fuel.
02:47 PM jymmmm: FinboySlick: TONS of squirrels
02:47 PM jymmmm: and the child labor is jsut too lazy to do a good job
03:09 PM Rab: rmaw, seems like a mighty load for a Land Rover...how'd it handle?
03:11 PM XXCoder: jymmmm: why is your place having blackouts?
03:14 PM FinboySlick: XXCoder: California.
03:18 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: The power company (PG&E) caused the BIG fire (150,000 acres, 85 dead) last year, so now they are having blackouts as a wildfire prevention. BUT, they ALSO just caused the currently active Kincade fire 65,000 acres only 5% contained.
03:18 PM Elmo40: pink_vampire, did you order the proper engraving tools ?
03:18 PM XXCoder: jeez
03:18 PM pink_vampire: I have a lot of very good cutter
03:19 PM pink_vampire: but I want to also try to make the cheap 0.1deg 0.1mm
03:21 PM FinboySlick: jymmmm: I read that the share dropped on risks that they might have caused it but I didn't know it was confirmed.
03:24 PM Elmo40: what caused the fires? bad electrical lines sparking on tree tops?
03:28 PM FinboySlick: Elmo40: That's what I heard for the first one. jymmmm can probably tell you more.
03:39 PM Elmo40: lack of maintenance strikes again...
03:49 PM roycroft: i just read that it was power lines again
03:50 PM roycroft: second big fire in a week caused by power lines that should not have been able to cause a fire
03:50 PM roycroft: and pg&e will react again by enacting a massive intentional blackout
03:50 PM roycroft: after the fact
04:41 PM jymmmm: PE admits it was theri fault for the kincade (current) fire... They did not shut off the HV transmission lines
04:41 PM jymmmm: Elmo40: ^^^
04:41 PM jymmmm: PG&E*
04:41 PM Tom_L: due to lines arcing in the trees?
04:42 PM jymmmm: Line fell due to high winds
04:42 PM jymmmm: The REALLY HV lines like 100KV transmission line
04:42 PM Tom_L: now see... they should have gone with gas lighting years back and we wouldn't have that problem.....
04:43 PM jymmmm: IF they just wen tunderground, wouldn't have any isue
04:43 PM Tom_L: you don't get quakes?
04:43 PM jymmmm: Yep, we do. But underground gas lines haven't been an issue
04:44 PM jymmmm: And it looks like in 2018 (?) PGE caused over 400 fires so they say
04:45 PM Deejay: gn8
04:45 PM jymmmm: gn9 Deejay
04:46 PM Deejay: :)
04:46 PM Tom_L: l9r
04:46 PM Tom_L: l8r
04:46 PM Tom_L: woops
04:47 PM jymmmm: But WTF do you do when the electric company fucks up so bad?
05:09 PM drdoc: jymmmm: pass legislation absolving them of all liability?
05:09 PM jymmmm: drdoc: too much damage and deaths
05:13 PM drdoc: you know if it weren't for the fatalities, they'd already be off the hook
05:13 PM jymmmm: Teh judge aint allowing that
05:13 PM * drdoc is a little snarly today
05:14 PM drdoc: in TX, it would have already been done anyhow
05:14 PM roycroft: jymmm: we would vote them out :)
05:14 PM roycroft: that's the nice thing about having a public utility
05:17 PM jymmmm: roycroft: they own the transmission lines, so what do you do then?
05:20 PM roycroft: vote in a different board of directors who are more responsive to the ratepayers
05:21 PM jymmmm: The CEO hmself admited they caused the Kincade (current) wildfire already
05:21 PM _unreal_: sup
05:22 PM roycroft: and i should say that, while i'm quite happy with my public power/water utility (one of the oldest in the nation), hvaing a totally public utility is not what i would consider ideal
05:22 PM roycroft: ideally, the transmission and delivery infrastructure would be publically owned, while the finished services would be private
05:23 PM roycroft: so i could pick whatever electric or water company i wanted
05:23 PM drdoc: roycroft: most of central Texas is that
05:23 PM roycroft: to me, that's almost always the ideal solution for natural monopolies
05:23 PM drdoc: it's overall a good thing, IMO
05:23 PM drdoc: but it has its downside
05:23 PM drdoc: s
05:24 PM drdoc: Austin is a monopoly and our power costs 3x what it does in te surrounding towns
05:24 PM drdoc: "Duh"
05:24 PM roycroft: but where that's not possible/practical (roads, for example, when there is no product - just the infrastructure), then the infrastructure is usually best owned/operated by a public utility
05:25 PM _unreal_: I use to have a rental that the POWER was crazy high
05:26 PM _unreal_: when I was moving out I discovered by accident fucking landlord has lines going to there home
05:27 PM roycroft: so your meter was paying for your landlord's power? or part of it?
05:28 PM roycroft: jymmm: just wait - pg&e are going to either ask for a *lot* of relief in the bankruptcy settlement, ask the state for a YUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUGE bailout to pay for infrastruture/maintenance (which, if they get it, they will simply pocket), or, more likely, both
05:29 PM roycroft: they are setting the state and the bankruptcy court up for this
05:29 PM _unreal_: they needed me to help them move something because they are older. I helped and we walked into some part of the house that was supposed to be OFF limits to tenents. come to find out we walked right passed the main elec box and it was labled tenint and all the conduit runs were labled main house this that and other areas. and there was an outisde flood light. come to find out the onlything the land lord payed for was the
05:29 PM _unreal_: outside flood lights
05:29 PM _unreal_: mother fucker
05:29 PM roycroft: they're going to roll out more massive blackouts, mostly unneeded, and there will be quite a few more fires started "accidently" by their failing infrastructure
05:30 PM _unreal_: bastards
05:30 PM _unreal_: tonights project
05:30 PM _unreal_: recover the @#$@#$ harddrive I deleted the partitions on before I recovered files
05:30 PM _unreal_: STUPID
05:30 PM _unreal_: I was SOOOOOOOOOO DAMN tired on saterday
05:31 PM roycroft: _unreal_: around here, most utilities have a special rate for security lights - like $15/month for a big light
05:31 PM roycroft: so the little bit he was actually paying for was likely at a steep discount
05:32 PM drdoc: _unreal_: parted will do that pretty painlessly
05:32 PM _unreal_: ya I'm digging the drive out of the tower right now
05:32 PM _unreal_: so mad at my self
05:32 PM roycroft: restoring from last night's backup even more painlessly :)
05:32 PM _unreal_: I have a few cad files for work i JUST finshed
05:32 PM _unreal_: got messed up trying to do that ram upgrade
05:33 PM _unreal_: still no idea why the ram upgrade didnt work
05:33 PM _unreal_: now that I took that MB out I'm going to have a closer look at it and do everything I can to kill the cmos
05:33 PM roycroft: the only reason it did not work is because you did not design and implement a disaster recovery plan prior to performing the backup :)
05:33 PM _unreal_: see if I can get it to clear and accept new memory
05:33 PM roycroft: if you had planned for the worst, the upgrade would have gone swimmingly
05:33 PM _unreal_: bacup?
05:34 PM roycroft: er, the memory upgrade
05:34 PM roycroft: sorry, my mind was on backups
05:34 PM _unreal_: would not have halped
05:34 PM _unreal_: I wiped out the parittions
05:34 PM _unreal_: didnt do anything to them
05:34 PM _unreal_: I just have to recover them and get the stupid files
05:34 PM _unreal_: once I have them then I can KLINE the drive
05:35 PM roycroft: i'll not ask how you did that as part of a memory upgrade procedure, because my brain already hurts a little
05:35 PM _unreal_: I swapped motherboards trying to get a working system
05:35 PM _unreal_: That mother board I have "supports 8gb"
05:35 PM _unreal_: but it refused to recogmize it
05:35 PM _unreal_: on top of that its had some wierd issues before as well
05:35 PM roycroft: i just tried that with a machine the other day
05:36 PM _unreal_: I think the guy I got it from fucked up the motherboard
05:36 PM roycroft: a supermicro system board that claims to support 8GB, but had 4GB
05:36 PM _unreal_: overclocked it or something
05:36 PM roycroft: i bought another 4GB, and it will see exactly 4GB, no mater how i install it
05:36 PM _unreal_: it was crazy dusty when I got it from him
05:36 PM roycroft: i.e. the old, the new, a mix of each, whatever
05:36 PM _unreal_: did you check the bios version
05:36 PM roycroft: i did not
05:37 PM roycroft: i plan on doing that whenver i get a chance to check it out again
05:37 PM _unreal_: could just be a bios version issue
05:37 PM roycroft: yes
05:37 PM roycroft: but it's not a big deal - it's a machine i don't plan on pusing into production permanently
05:37 PM roycroft: i'm about to switch hypervisors from vmware esxi to proxmox ve
05:37 PM roycroft: and i thought this machine would help me juggle vms around during the transition
05:37 PM _unreal_: That asus motherboard when I put the 8gb in it saw dual channel but only 4gb
05:38 PM _unreal_: but if I took one of the sticks out. it saw 2gb
05:38 PM _unreal_: before it had 2x 2gb
05:38 PM roycroft: and having 8GB of ram would let me run more vms on it than having 4GB
05:38 PM _unreal_: so really fucked up there
05:38 PM _unreal_: I dont understand why it would see only 2gb using a 4gb stick even single sticks
05:44 PM roycroft: something on the machine still is only 32-bit
06:34 PM jymmmm: Powers back... for the moment. Then off Tuesday thru wednesday
06:35 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, time to swtich to a tablet for internet :)
06:36 PM _unreal_: solar power a power packs :)
06:36 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: and for the frig/freezer?
06:37 PM Tom_L: so do you run around getting all sorts of crap done knowing it's goin off again?
06:37 PM _unreal_: its winter is it not?
06:39 PM jymmmm: Tom_L I'm leaving the generator "ready to go" again
06:40 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, do you live in the city or out in the wilderness?
06:40 PM jymmmm: forest
06:40 PM _unreal_: got any streams near buy?
06:40 PM jymmmm: no
06:41 PM _unreal_: damn
06:41 PM _unreal_: so much for building a mini hydro plant
06:41 PM _unreal_: amazing what you can do with a 2" pvc
06:43 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: whats plans are you refering to?
06:43 PM _unreal_: ?
06:43 PM _unreal_: have you ever watched any youtube videos of mini diy power plants?
06:43 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: you said 2" pvc hydro plant, link?
06:44 PM _unreal_: http://www.alternative-energy-tutorials.com/images/stories/hydro/alt84.gif
06:44 PM _unreal_: I'd have to seach
06:44 PM _unreal_: https://www.google.com/url?sa=i&url=http%3A%2F%2Ffivegallonideas.com%2Fhydroelectric-generator%2F&psig=AOvVaw2VlBicC0-7adMmEjmf8B2O&ust=1572392265336000&source=images&cd=vfe&ved=0CA0QjhxqFwoTCJD6pPCPwOUCFQAAAAAdAAAAABAO
06:45 PM _unreal_: Not the one I'mthinking of but along the lines
06:46 PM _unreal_: https://www.revolvy.com/page/Micro-HydroPower-Plant-%252D-Testing-Pelton-Turbine?stype=videos&cmd=list&sml=uN_yPUC8vHM
06:47 PM _unreal_: if you are on a hill or have a hill near buy with any kind of a stream.
06:47 PM _unreal_: does not take much run to produce some very fast moving water
06:47 PM _unreal_: with lots of force
06:47 PM _unreal_: and a small "jet" hitting a wheel
06:48 PM _unreal_: I belive that example produced something like 30amps at 120
06:48 PM _unreal_: v
06:48 PM _unreal_: after doing the conversions
06:49 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ieFZI4-6K8
06:49 PM _unreal_: I have inverters, and battery chargers and all kinds of hadrware
06:49 PM _unreal_: solar input battery chargers
06:50 PM _unreal_: amazing the shit the boats throw away
06:52 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, are you sudenly interested?
06:52 PM _unreal_: ?
06:57 PM jymmmm: _unreal_: I posted that link last year in here.
06:58 PM _unreal_: heh
06:58 PM _unreal_: well that one is using 2" PVC :)
06:59 PM Tom_L: what did they use for a generator?
07:00 PM _unreal_: washing machine base
07:00 PM _unreal_: BLDC type
07:01 PM Tom_L: F&P?
07:01 PM _unreal_: ?
07:01 PM Tom_L: fisher & paykel
07:01 PM _unreal_: I guess
07:02 PM Tom_L: pancake motor
07:02 PM _unreal_: ya
07:02 PM _unreal_: its a bldc
07:02 PM _unreal_: heh
07:05 PM Tom_L: http://www.thebackshed.com/Windmill/fp2a.asp
07:12 PM _unreal_: yay partition recoverd
07:14 PM _unreal_: There booting to safe mode
07:14 PM _unreal_: FINALLY
07:14 PM _unreal_: FARK
07:14 PM _unreal_: didnt boot to safe
07:15 PM Tom_L: spoke too soon
07:15 PM _unreal_: trying again
07:15 PM _unreal_: I tried with networking this time trying with out networking
07:15 PM _unreal_: arg
07:15 PM _unreal_: at least its working ish
07:28 PM ziper: they put some more pictures of the cnc https://www.bidspotter.com/en-us/auction-catalogues/bscsta/catalogue-id-bscsta10061/lot-2accc942-0bcb-4dd5-a438-aaf2010782e0
07:28 PM ziper: not quite 4x8
07:47 PM _unreal_: I am not interested in IT its self but the spindle I'm intereested
07:48 PM _unreal_: The rail system is weak I can see it plainly
08:14 PM taloot: where can i find hostmot2 firmware
08:14 PM taloot: for 7143
08:15 PM taloot: 7i43
08:16 PM Tom_L: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=70&search=7i43
08:16 PM Tom_L: support software
08:17 PM taloot: and then i copy to linuxc directory
08:17 PM Tom_L: what are you looking for?
08:18 PM taloot: i have 7i43 and i want t start using it
08:18 PM Tom_L: do you have a daughter card?
08:18 PM ziper: _unreal_, worth a thousand, you think?
08:19 PM taloot: no
08:19 PM Tom_L: isolation board?
08:19 PM taloot: i have my own breakout i will show u
08:23 PM Guest51938: https://ibb.co/W2Vpvvx
08:23 PM Guest51938: no isolation
08:23 PM Guest51938: just i want to try it
08:23 PM Tom_L: you would be ahead of the game to use an isolation board
08:24 PM Tom_L: you're dealing directly with the fpga pins the way you have it
08:24 PM Tom_L: no protection
08:24 PM Guest51938: okey i got it.. but i want to try it in bench
08:24 PM Tom_L: i had one of those btw
08:25 PM Tom_L: switched to this one: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=291&search=7i90
08:25 PM Tom_L: 72 io
08:25 PM Guest51938: i will buy anothe one with isolation
08:25 PM Tom_L: and cheaper
08:25 PM Tom_L: get a daughter card
08:25 PM Tom_L: just a sec
08:27 PM Tom_L: forgot the number on it but it's basically just an isolation card
08:27 PM Guest51938: ethernet is the best
08:27 PM Tom_L: depends
08:27 PM Guest51938: in what?
08:28 PM Tom_L: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=104&search=7i37
08:28 PM Tom_L: depends on the other hardware you have
08:29 PM Tom_L: you need a faster pc for ethernet
08:29 PM Tom_L: ethernet requires you run preempt-rt which somewhat requires a newer pc
08:30 PM Tom_L: i'm running a parallel port card similar to yours and running RTAI which works on older pcs
08:30 PM Guest51938: u can you preempt-rt with parport
08:31 PM Tom_L: or you can get more specific daughter cards that are designed to be used with steppers or servos etc
08:31 PM Tom_L: kindof depends what you're building
08:32 PM Guest51938: what machine u have
08:33 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/spindle_cooler/Mill1.jpg
08:33 PM Tom_L: home built
08:36 PM Guest51938: running those without isolation
08:36 PM Guest51938: do u think its risky?
08:36 PM Tom_L: yes
08:40 PM Guest51938: https://img.alicdn.com/imgextra/i2/31864289/TB2LoTpspXXXXclXpXXXXXXXXXX_!!31864289.jpg
08:42 PM Tom_L: what's that for?
08:42 PM Guest51938: isolatinon
08:43 PM Guest51938: http://www.ti.com/diagrams/med_tida-060014_tida-060014_board_image.jpg
08:43 PM Tom_L: what about the input plug?
08:43 PM Guest51938: serial?
08:43 PM Guest51938: port or the pin it self
08:44 PM Tom_L: you'd be better off getting something designed to work with the main card
08:44 PM Tom_L: might save you from buying something twice
08:45 PM Guest51938: yes i agree
08:45 PM Guest51938: i will add it up to the next mesa order
08:46 PM Tom_L: figure out what you want to build and ask before you get anything
08:46 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop can help you find what you need, he sells em
08:47 PM Guest51938: thats why im trying to do this board i have it from long time,. since i came from mach3
08:47 PM Guest51938: and i thought it will work in usb
08:47 PM Guest51938: hehe
08:47 PM Tom_L: https://mesaus.com/
08:47 PM Tom_L: linuxcnc doesn't do USB
08:47 PM Guest51938: yes
08:48 PM Guest51938: i know that later
08:48 PM Tom_L: where are you?
08:48 PM Tom_L: you're not english natively
08:48 PM Guest51938: saudi arabia
08:49 PM Guest51938: 7i37TA
08:49 PM Tom_L: just a basic breakout board
08:49 PM Guest51938: this is the one i guess it work with mine
08:50 PM Tom_L: if you want things like stepgen for steppers etc you may want another board
08:50 PM Guest51938: which card
08:50 PM Tom_L: some daughter cards are designed for specific things
08:51 PM Tom_L: figure out what you want to do then ask
08:51 PM Tom_L: 3 steppers & a spindle control?
08:51 PM Guest51938: yes
08:51 PM Tom_L: with limit switches
08:51 PM Tom_L: MPG?
08:51 PM Guest51938: exactly
08:51 PM Guest51938: no MPG
08:52 PM Tom_L: i would :)
08:52 PM Tom_L: i used the 7i47s on mine
08:52 PM Tom_L: there are others that will work just as good or better
08:54 PM Tom_L: that might be a good way to go for you but it's up to you to figure that out
08:54 PM Kevin`: does he already have the fpga card? if not mesa sells kits of commom combinations: https://mesaus.com/product-category/png-kits/
08:54 PM Tom_L: those plug in the pci slot
08:55 PM Guest51938: i have pcie only
08:55 PM Tom_L: and yes it's got the main control and the daughter card
08:55 PM Kevin`: there's a pci-e one
08:55 PM Guest51938: 6i25 do you think its better than the ethernet one
08:55 PM Tom_L: the 6i25 is pcie
08:55 PM Guest51938: the ethernet sloution is cheaper
08:55 PM Guest51938: https://mesaus.com/product/7i76e/
08:56 PM Guest51938: this is match with everything i need
08:56 PM Kevin`: less potential compatability trouble with pci/pci-e. it's technically faster, but not in a way that's likely to matter for most people
08:56 PM Tom_L: yeah he's recently come up with some combo cards like that one
08:56 PM Tom_L: that might be a good choice
08:56 PM Tom_L: i'm not as familiar with it
08:57 PM Tom_L: ask pcw_home or JT-Shop when they're around
08:57 PM Guest51938: newer.. and cheapr.. also have everthing you need
08:57 PM Tom_L: right
08:57 PM Guest51938: also 2 idc25 that could be fitted with chinese BOB
08:57 PM Tom_L: like i said he's recently come up with those that have everything on one card
08:58 PM Tom_L: i'm just not _as_ familiar with them
08:58 PM Guest51938: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69_63&product_id=290
08:58 PM Guest51938: even mesa site lable it under duaghter card
08:59 PM Tom_L: do you need sourcing or sinking outputs?
08:59 PM Guest51938: infact its Anything I/O FPGA Cards
08:59 PM Tom_L: comes both ways iirc
08:59 PM Guest51938: sourcing
09:00 PM Tom_L: probably a good choice
09:00 PM Guest51938: yes ethernet is good and neat
09:00 PM Guest51938: clean setup
09:00 PM Tom_L: you just need to run preempt-rt with it
09:01 PM Tom_L: make sure your pc has decent latency with that
09:01 PM Tom_L: http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
09:02 PM Kevin`: be aware ethernet isn't intended to run over a network. this should have a cable direct from an ethernet interface to the card which is dedicated to the purpose and has compatible "fast" drivers
09:02 PM Tom_L: debian 9 with preempt-rt
09:02 PM Tom_L: ^^^
09:02 PM Tom_L: one nic card plugged into this card!
09:03 PM Guest51938: ethernet driver?
09:03 PM Guest51938: modifed?
09:03 PM Tom_L: no
09:04 PM Guest51938: realtek or intel.. does it matter
09:04 PM Tom_L: should be fine
09:05 PM Guest51938: where r u from tom
09:05 PM Tom_L: us
09:05 PM Guest51938: where in us
09:05 PM Tom_L: middle
09:06 PM Guest51938: weed is legal
09:06 PM Guest51938: :)
09:06 PM Tom_L: no that's the neighbors to the west
09:06 PM Guest51938: best weed i tried was in california
09:08 PM drdoc: http://imgur.com/gallery/LBUq2Ah
09:08 PM drdoc: e
09:09 PM drdoc: there One True Tabasco sauce
09:09 PM drdoc: the*
09:10 PM Guest51938: http://www.mesanet.com/software/parallel/7i43.zip
09:10 PM Guest51938: ERROR
09:11 PM Guest51938: cant be downloaded
09:11 PM skunkworks: downloads here
09:11 PM drdoc: crap. Sorry, y'all, wrong window
09:11 PM Guest51938: cant connect.. seems dns issue
09:12 PM skunkworks: Guest51938: where are you located?
09:12 PM Guest51938: Saudi
09:13 PM skunkworks: I didn't know California exported weed to Saudisaudi arabia ;)
09:13 PM skunkworks: *saudi arabia
09:14 PM Guest51938: lol.. no i was ther
09:14 PM Guest51938: PDF can be download
09:14 PM * skunkworks figured...
09:14 PM Guest51938: but the zip
09:14 PM Guest51938: not
09:14 PM skunkworks: mesa's ethernet stuff is pretty cool.
09:16 PM skunkworks: well - all of their stuff is pretty cool :)
09:16 PM Guest51938: its refined products
09:16 PM Tom_L: skunkworks is that 7i76E his newest all in one card?
09:16 PM Guest51938: hehe
09:16 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: I have not been keeping up...
09:16 PM Tom_L: well damn. if you don't... who's gonna?
09:16 PM skunkworks: Some barges shake the house...
09:18 PM Tom_L: finally got the test pc ironed out again. bad nic card
09:18 PM skunkworks: Still fighting with the rpi4... I think I have narroed it down to a noisy power supply... Maybe
09:18 PM Tom_L: i see andy's been workin on an io driver for it
09:19 PM skunkworks: works darn good at home - hooked to the big screen (running a mesa 7i92) but putting it in the mill gets following errors..
09:19 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: saw that - was going to test it soon.
09:20 PM Guest51938: https://www.speedtest.net/my-result/a/5431962582
09:20 PM skunkworks: This is what the supply looked like... http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20191026_153433.jpg
09:20 PM Guest51938: 5g
09:20 PM Tom_L: like your new toy?
09:21 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: yes. Still not comfortable with it...
09:21 PM drdoc: skunkworks: zowie
09:21 PM skunkworks: drdoc: yes - that is .5v of noise...
09:21 PM Tom_L: looks like my brainwaves
09:21 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, Whats your thoughts
09:21 PM drdoc: skunkworks: so I see. that's nasty
09:22 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, as well
09:22 PM Tom_L: on what?
09:22 PM skunkworks: I think a 4 day work week makes sense...
09:22 PM Tom_L: my kids work 4 on 3 off
09:22 PM Tom_L: 12 hrs though
09:22 PM drdoc: 3 12s for the win
09:22 PM _unreal_: I'm thiking about setting my rails up like this https://drive.google.com/open?id=1-0eXTf9ow_qJYQ8AgDgeRAHTOd-e6zcF
09:23 PM Tom_L: actually one works 3
09:23 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1M0AEWYBorOkzJdJ7BxX0mm7LE6aypqcy
09:23 PM Tom_L: weekend shift now
09:23 PM _unreal_: or do you think its over kill?
09:23 PM _unreal_: dual rails top/bottom
09:23 PM _unreal_: VERY heavy duty setup
09:23 PM drdoc: when I worked for Norton Drilling we worked 12 on 4 off
09:23 PM Tom_L: i like square rails personally
09:24 PM _unreal_: I'm looking at heavy loading
09:24 PM _unreal_: lots of weight
09:24 PM _unreal_: and lots of rotational forces
09:25 PM Tom_L: i'm not wild about gantrys
09:25 PM Tom_L: but, just depends on your application
09:26 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, i dont have a choice. the materials I have to work on are BIG
09:27 PM skunkworks: I like tikko ways... http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/conversion/tikkoway.JPG
09:27 PM skunkworks: ;)
09:27 PM drdoc: hey, I keep seeing references to 3d printing support in lcnc, but I never see posts from anyone using it
09:27 PM skunkworks: I think the more bearing surface area the better...
09:27 PM Tom_L: https://dmscncrouters.com/dms-machine/5-axis-large-format-gantry-cnc-machine/
09:27 PM Tom_L: they're still using linear rails
09:28 PM Tom_L: 2 rows on y
09:28 PM _unreal_: tikkoway?
09:28 PM drdoc: (sorry, talking about gantries sent me there)
09:28 PM skunkworks: drdoc: machinekit has done a bit more with 3d printing
09:29 PM Tom_L: the shop they're at keeps their cnc's running 24/7
09:29 PM drdoc: does it offer anything over the usual firmwares?
09:30 PM Tom_L: _unreal_ i'd look that link i posted over close
09:30 PM Tom_L: that looks pretty heavy duty
09:31 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, I googled tikkoway and came up with 3 images of wooden bearings ONLY
09:31 PM drdoc: I like that the axes are labeled...
09:33 PM skunkworks: drdoc: not really... If you are used to click and print - linuxcnc probably isn't going to be a good 3d printer controller. It is really made for subtractive machining.
09:33 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/Fest2013/DSC_3854.JPG
09:33 PM skunkworks: that was run by linuxcnc before the machinekit split
09:33 PM drdoc: skunkworks: I figured so, but it's always worth checking
09:33 PM taloot: mesanet download not working
09:33 PM taloot: even from my UK vpn
09:34 PM Rab: taloot, what's the link?
09:34 PM taloot: a min
09:34 PM Tom_L: 7i43 firmware?
09:34 PM taloot: yes
09:34 PM taloot: for all
09:35 PM taloot: not working
09:35 PM taloot: only PDF works
09:36 PM drdoc: taloot: what's the URL? I can d/l to my webserver for you
09:36 PM taloot: m.addthisedge.com
09:36 PM taloot: it lags there
09:36 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/taloot/
09:37 PM Tom_L: try that
09:37 PM drdoc: oh good
09:37 PM taloot: done it works ok
09:38 PM taloot: i can see where the request lag
09:38 PM Tom_L: got it?
09:38 PM taloot: yes
09:38 PM taloot: thanks man
09:38 PM drdoc: Tom_L: who hosts your site? VS, real system, or webhost?
09:38 PM Tom_L: me
09:38 PM taloot: v1.addthisedge.com.edgekey.net
09:39 PM taloot: this provider fail
09:39 PM taloot: im using google dns
09:40 PM drdoc: I just recently put mine back up
09:40 PM Tom_L: drdoc, headless pc i pulled out of the trash
09:41 PM drdoc: dyndns, or do you have static IP at hone?
09:41 PM Tom_L: my isp blocks port 80 though
09:41 PM drdoc: lol, yeah
09:41 PM Tom_L: dyndns started charging so i went with no-ip
09:41 PM drdoc: I use Cloudsigma
09:42 PM drdoc: a decently-provisioned virtual server costs me about $100/year
09:42 PM Tom_L: mine costs pennies/mo for electricity
09:42 PM drdoc: and I don't have to fiddle with the hardware
09:43 PM Tom_L: i haven't touched it for months
09:43 PM Tom_L: suppose i should blow it out one of these days
09:43 PM drdoc: yeah, but I don't mind paying for a service with no outages
09:45 PM drdoc: plus, it's a right pain to run a mail server from a dynamic IP
09:45 PM Tom_L: yeah i don't do mail on it
09:45 PM drdoc: that's the main reason I still run it
09:45 PM Tom_L: just a place to put anything i want
09:46 PM _unreal_: drdoc, you need a zipit
09:46 PM drdoc: yeah, it comes in handy
09:46 PM _unreal_: dirt cheap to run
09:46 PM drdoc: _unreal_: we already had this conversation
09:46 PM drdoc: ;-)
09:46 PM _unreal_: no kidding
09:46 PM drdoc: yup
09:47 PM drdoc: I'm more of a Z80 kind of guy
09:47 PM drdoc: so, do most folks run the parallel-port breakout boards on separate PSUs?
09:49 PM drdoc: Tom_L: I decided to just order another $8 ChinaCo board
09:49 PM drdoc: *and* build one. ;-)
09:57 PM taloot: VPS so cheap thoses day
09:57 PM taloot: days..
09:57 PM taloot: i have KVM vps. i run mikrotik on it
10:06 PM taloot: what can i do with the files now
10:07 PM taloot: place them in hostmot2 folder?
10:07 PM Tom_L: i put mine in a 'mesa' folder under each board name
10:07 PM taloot: and then i complete it from pncsetup
10:08 PM Tom_L: you'll load whatever .bit file you end up needing
10:09 PM taloot: when i was using mach3.. i used to link the spindle over modbus
10:10 PM taloot: i want to trigger estop with the VFD amperage reach specifc level
10:10 PM taloot: when
10:11 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/hy_gt_vfd.1.html
10:11 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/hy_vfd.1.html
10:12 PM taloot: very good
10:12 PM taloot: thanks
10:15 PM taloot: SoftDMC
10:15 PM taloot: whats this
10:40 PM Elmo40: they get annual fires in cali. how are there any forests left??
10:43 PM roycroft: there's a lot of california
10:55 PM Elmo40: true
10:56 PM Elmo40: and with all this CO2 in the air the trees are flourishing!
10:58 PM taloot: Lubuntu can run linuxcnc?
11:02 PM taloot: https://ibb.co/C803YsR
11:04 PM roycroft: sadly, though, the fires consume oxygen and release co2 into the atmosphere
11:05 PM taloot: Global SMI lock
11:06 PM taloot: in bios .. ist better to disable it?