Oct 21 2019
12:00 AM flyback: http://www.bgmicro.com/bat1087.aspx
12:05 AM flyback: this is good too
12:05 AM flyback: 50 packs $17.50 and $6.95 ship
12:05 AM flyback: 3.7v 650ma lipo packs
12:05 AM flyback: managed packs
12:05 AM flyback: OWNS YOUR "CANUCK"............................................CANUCK!
12:05 AM * flyback DROPKICKS Elmo40
12:05 AM Elmo40: bro. i'm in my igloo. you can't dropkick in here
12:05 AM Elmo40: it is only 5' ceiling in here!
12:05 AM Elmo40: :-P
12:05 AM XXCoder: snow is breakable
12:05 AM flyback: those are neat btw
12:05 AM flyback: you can like light a candle in a igloo and stay warm
12:05 AM XXCoder: 50 packs lol
12:05 AM flyback: XXCoder, ?
12:05 AM flyback: they are 35 cents each
12:05 AM flyback: clearance
12:05 AM flyback: 50 would cost $17.50
12:05 AM XXCoder: i know but who can use 50?
12:05 AM flyback: wireless sensors :)
12:05 AM XXCoder: well there is that. solar charged I guess
12:10 AM flyback: but yeah you are right right
12:10 AM flyback: if they fit my zipits I might get like 10 or so
12:20 AM Elmo40: these would be good in an IoT device. put a couple together in series and step it down to 5V
12:20 AM Elmo40: and recharge it with solar cells
12:21 AM Elmo40: same capacity as rechargable AA batteries, though. maybe better suited for LED porch lights, LoL
12:22 AM pink_vampire: hi all
12:23 AM XXCoder: yo
12:23 AM Elmo40: pink_vampire, did you figure out how to recentre the circuit drawing ?
12:23 AM pink_vampire: yes
12:23 AM Elmo40: nice.
12:24 AM pink_vampire: I just moved it to 0,0 in KiCad
12:24 AM Elmo40: can you pick an item or area and then say 'make origin' or something?
12:24 AM pink_vampire: no
12:24 AM Elmo40: oh... i didn't want to use KiCAD. how about in the other program
12:25 AM pink_vampire: I draw 2 lines in KiCad, on 0,0
12:25 AM Elmo40: i'll toy with it later this week and see if i can find some way.
12:25 AM pink_vampire: and this is my origin
12:25 AM pink_vampire: cool! Thanks!
02:24 AM Deejay: moin
03:07 AM pink_vampire: moin moin Deejay
03:08 AM XXCoder: heys
03:09 AM pink_vampire: hi XXCoder
03:09 AM XXCoder: whats up
03:14 AM pink_vampire: after using HSM to work with something like FlatCam it is soooo painful
03:16 AM pink_vampire: there is no adaptive!!!
03:19 AM XXCoder: very different eh
03:20 AM pink_vampire: the list for the missing stuff it about crazy long
03:43 AM pink_vampire: what is the green component on the board here? https://www.ebay.com/itm/264260254059
05:22 AM Tom_L: morning
06:14 AM jthornton: morning
06:15 AM XXCoder: mornin
06:41 AM t4nk_freenode: mourning
07:13 AM Elmo40: pink_vampire, with a small window on the back side, i think it is safe to say they are a fuse.
07:13 AM Elmo40: https://qurl.org/xnV
07:13 AM Elmo40: the window will show you when they 'pop'.
08:14 AM pink_vampire: Elmo40: I think I will just use 20x5 glass in holder
09:42 AM Connor: skunkworks: Yea, dion't think that mobo is available anymore..
12:04 PM jymmmm: OH JOY... potential blackout wed and thur
12:04 PM SpeedEvil: I assume california?
12:05 PM jymmmm: Of course
12:05 PM jymmmm: or Kommifornia =)
12:16 PM gregcnc: now to carefully unbend a 25mm motor shaft....
12:17 PM jymmmm: gregcnc: Got blowtorch and 12 lb maul?
12:18 PM gregcnc: .001" not 45°
12:18 PM SpeedEvil: hairdrier and nerf bat.
12:18 PM gregcnc: lol
12:19 PM * jymmmm lol @ SpeedEvil
12:20 PM gregcnc: that motor I dropped did bend ever so slightly. I blew checking it the first time and decided before I spend 100+USD to balance it, I should check it again
12:21 PM jymmmm: Is there a particular paint for black pipe used outdoors?
12:21 PM SpeedEvil: gregcnc: sure it's actually due to your drop?
12:22 PM gregcnc: I didn't actually run it before i took the entire spindle apart, so no
12:22 PM gregcnc: but the vibration would have been totally unacceptable if it was that way before
12:22 PM jymmmm: defective motor, exchange it =)
12:23 PM gregcnc: i don't even want to think about new price
12:24 PM jymmmm: 255mm shaft, wouldn't it be simpler to turn it than to try and straighten it .001" ?
12:25 PM gregcnc: no
12:25 PM jymmmm: k
12:34 PM roycroft: hey folks
12:34 PM roycroft: i need to rotate the lifting mechanism for a drill press table 135 degrees
12:34 PM roycroft: i figure i can get a pair of bevel gears to do 90 degrees of that
12:34 PM roycroft: but i'll need a couple u-joints to get me the other 45 degrees
12:35 PM roycroft: the thing is, u-joints are really expensive
12:35 PM roycroft: like $70 each
12:35 PM roycroft: is it reasonable for me, a not-very accomplished machinst, to think i can make them myself?
12:36 PM SpeedEvil: I would consider socket set joints
12:36 PM roycroft: yeah, i'm toying with doing that
12:36 PM roycroft: a couple 1/2" swivel adapters might do the trick
12:37 PM roycroft: if i were to make them, instead of bearings i figure i can make a yoke out of a solid chunk of steel that i machine into a cross shape, and insert shoulder bolts into the ends
12:37 PM roycroft: this is obviously not a high torque or high speed or precision applications
12:38 PM roycroft: but it needs to be pretty reliable - the reason for doing this is that i'm installing a different table on the machine that will totally block the lifting crank, and it would be a pain in the butt to remove the table for maintenance
12:39 PM SpeedEvil: Or you could go the whole hog and just stick an appropriate motor in there.
12:39 PM roycroft: i don't need a motor for that
12:39 PM roycroft: that's serious overkill
12:40 PM roycroft: if i used socket parts i could drill out the detent balls and replace with spring pins
12:40 PM roycroft: i was shocked to see how expensive small u-joints are
12:41 PM SpeedEvil: roycroft: 'and replace with spring pins' - or - well - epoxy
12:42 PM roycroft: spring pins would be more easily maintainable, should the need to do so ever arise
12:42 PM SpeedEvil: Hot-melt.
12:42 PM roycroft: i mean, epoxy isn't all that bad
12:42 PM SpeedEvil: (probably not that serious)
12:42 PM roycroft: but it gets smelly when it's heated up
12:42 PM roycroft: spring pins would not be difficult to do
12:43 PM SpeedEvil: heated up? Why would you heat it up?
12:43 PM roycroft: to release it for maintenance
12:43 PM SpeedEvil: ah
12:43 PM roycroft: which would hopefully never be required
12:43 PM SpeedEvil: I have seriously used hotmelt for applications like this.
12:43 PM roycroft: but as soon as i design it to be hard to maintain something will go wrong
12:44 PM SpeedEvil: :)
12:44 PM roycroft: and as soon as i design it to be easy to maintain it will be destined to never fail
12:44 PM roycroft: murphy and all his permutations are my mentors
01:07 PM jymmmm: can you extend the lifting crank?
01:07 PM roycroft: yes, but it sticks out the back of the drill press
01:07 PM jymmmm: IF it's 135deg, can you rotate it the other direction (If I'm understanding the issue)
01:07 PM roycroft: it's inconvenient even now
01:07 PM roycroft: i'd rather move it to the front of the machine
01:07 PM roycroft: so if you look at your average drill press, the lifting crank sticks out the right side, at a 90 degree angle to the front
01:09 PM roycroft: but i figure i can enlarge a 14mm bevel gear bore for that
01:09 PM roycroft: it's not a very precise mechanism
01:09 PM jymmmm: What if... you rotate it 180 deg around the column?
01:09 PM roycroft: i'll ponder a motor
01:09 PM roycroft: hmm, that would let me eliminate the bevel gear, but i'd sitll have 45 degrees to make up
01:09 PM roycroft: that might not be a bad idea though
01:10 PM jymmmm: 45 is half of 90
01:10 PM roycroft: just two u-joints (and perhaps those 1/2" socket swivels would do) and a shaft
01:11 PM roycroft: i figure an average u-joint can bend about 30 degrees, so i'd need two of them to get 45 degrees
01:11 PM roycroft: but yeah, rotating the whole thing 180 degrees simplifies things
01:11 PM roycroft: i'd just move the locking lever to the right side
01:11 PM roycroft: wait, i'm not sure i can do that
01:11 PM roycroft: because the table would stick out the back
01:11 PM roycroft: if it's built like i think it is
01:12 PM roycroft: i'll have to look when i get back to the shop
01:12 PM roycroft: if the collar that goes around the pillar is a separate casting from the table mount i might be able to flip the collar upside down
01:13 PM jymmmm: windshield wiper motor already has the gear box bult in
01:13 PM roycroft: the table does rotate left to right, so maybe it can rotate 180 degrees
01:14 PM roycroft: and turning an adapter from a 14.2mm round shaft to a 1/2" square socket stub would be trivial
01:15 PM roycroft: i know i have at least 3-4 1/2" socket swivels, so if i turned that one adapter, mocking this up would be easy
01:16 PM jymmmm: roycroft: I sae just hire a 6" midget to do it for you
01:16 PM roycroft: we say "altitudinally challenged" these days
01:16 PM jymmmm: Unless it's a trained ferret =)
01:17 PM jymmmm: I never said it had to be Hu-Mon =)
01:17 PM roycroft: my cat does not earn her keep
01:17 PM roycroft: i could try to get her lazy butt up and doing something productive for me
01:18 PM jymmmm: couple of bicycle gears and chain?
01:20 PM roycroft: i need to go look at the machine
01:20 PM roycroft: and i'm not working from home today
01:21 PM roycroft: but i really like the idea of turning the lifting mechanism upside down, if that will work
01:21 PM roycroft: and i think it might work
01:22 PM roycroft: iirc the table mount bolts onto the lifting collar with a single bolt in the middle, so it can be adjusted laterally to make it perpendicular to the pillar
01:22 PM roycroft: and if that's the case i should be able to rotate it 180 degrees, and the whole project gets simplified
01:23 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/Delta-18-900L-18-Inch-Laser-Drill/dp/B003YCEEQC?SubscriptionId=AKIAILSHYYTFIVPWUY6Q&tag=duckduckgo-iphone-20&linkCode=xm2&camp=2025&creative=165953&creativeASIN=B003YCEEQC
01:23 PM roycroft: that's almost the same model as mine
01:24 PM roycroft: the table and lifting mechanism are very similar
01:24 PM roycroft: except the lifting crank comes out at 90 degrees to the front on that one
01:25 PM roycroft: aah, i found the owner's manual for mine
01:26 PM roycroft: and yeah, i should be able to flip the lifting collar upside down
01:26 PM roycroft: the index scale would be on the bottom, but i could move that too
01:27 PM jymmmm: roycroft: FWIW this is the underside of my drill press table... https://imgur.com/kCFp3Wo
01:27 PM jymmmm: roycroft: It's a craftsman, probably made by ryobi
01:28 PM jymmmm: ...or delta
01:29 PM jymmmm: Oh, Sears and kmart are closing next month (probably january)
01:29 PM jymmmm: But Craftsman is an independant company and some tools are at Lowes, for others you can call craftsman directly for warranty issues.
01:30 PM Tom_L: jym they closed here already
01:30 PM Tom_L: ace still sells em
01:30 PM jymmmm: Tom_L They closed SOME stores here too, like a year ago
01:30 PM roycroft: http://www.roycroft.us/Drill_Press_Table_Mount.pdf
01:30 PM roycroft: that's mine
01:30 PM roycroft: i think i can make it work pretty easily
01:31 PM jymmmm: roycroft: youmight have to drill/tap the set screw, but no biggy
01:32 PM roycroft: except that's not exactly mine
01:32 PM roycroft: odd, because it's the owner's manual for mine
01:32 PM roycroft: but that one also shows the crank coming out at a 90
01:32 PM roycroft: and mine is definitely 135 degrees
01:33 PM Connor: So, besides the J1900 mini-itx, any recommendations on mobo? (dual nic if possible)
01:33 PM roycroft: and actually, i had not thought about the clamping mechanism
01:33 PM jymmmm: Connor why dual nic?
01:34 PM roycroft: oh, it will be ok
01:34 PM roycroft: it will go straight to the right when i flip the collar upside down
01:35 PM roycroft: i want to do this with no permanant mods to the machine, if possible, and i think i can
01:35 PM jymmmm: roycroft: Imagine if it's been upside all this time :D
01:35 PM jymmmm: ^down
01:36 PM roycroft: i should have ordered the australian version
01:36 PM Connor: One for the mesa, the other for internal network so that peoples can upload their g-code. I mean.. we can use a addon nic, but dual nic would be nice.
01:36 PM roycroft: it would have cost me 5x as much
01:36 PM roycroft: but it would be australian dollars
01:36 PM roycroft: which are worth even less than canadian dollars
01:36 PM jymmmm: Connor use a switch?
01:37 PM jymmmm: ethernet switch
01:37 PM Connor: Didn't think you where suppose to use a switch with the mesa card.
01:37 PM jymmmm: Connor Talk to pcw_mesa to be sure, I didn't either, but I THINK you might be able to.
01:38 PM Connor: I don't even want to bother.. dual nic is just better idea.. we have a supermicro server mobo with dual nics, but it isn't playing nice with the mesa.. Brought in one of my older atom boards and it works just fine.
01:39 PM jymmmm: Connor Also, you COULD bind a second subnet to the etherport
01:39 PM Connor: Looking at the list of mobos people used with Linuxcnc, I don't see a single super micro, which makes me think they don't play well.
01:39 PM jymmmm: then you'll have eth0 and eth1
01:40 PM jymmmm: which are both bound to eth
01:41 PM jymmmm: and I'm surprised that supermicro "doesn't work"
01:43 PM jymmmm: Especially since they mostly use intel ethernet chipsets
01:44 PM jymmmm: Connor I would google the supermicro you have and see if there's a known bug
03:06 PM drdoc: Connor: does the SM board have IPMI?
03:08 PM Connor: It has the ability. I don't think it has the IPMI module installed.
03:09 PM drdoc: the IPMI console settings can play havoc with both serial and USB operation
03:11 PM Connor: Yea, it's not in the BIOS and module not installed.
03:11 PM drdoc: o
03:11 PM drdoc: ok
03:12 PM drdoc: fwiw, I have a supermicro atom D525, no IPMI, that gets terrible latency numbers
03:12 PM Connor: I think we're going to grab this http://www.mini-box.com/Gigabyte-J1900N-D3V and use it.
03:15 PM drdoc: I've seen those on Ebay for a lot less, if you don't need a warranty
03:16 PM drdoc: I'm about to gamble $30 on one of these:
03:16 PM drdoc: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B009TFOAOO
03:17 PM drdoc: A friend gave me the m/b with a Celeron 1020E on it, and it gets 12-16us latency, but I think that's mostly CPU starvation
03:18 PM drdoc: an Ivy Bridge i5 will cost about $30
03:23 PM jymmmm: drdoc: intel lan, nice
03:26 PM drdoc: yes
03:27 PM drdoc: and a relatively low-power CPU, for the performance
03:27 PM drdoc: but mostly, "Free"
03:30 PM FinboySlick: gregcnc: I remember watching Keith fenner straigten marine shafts with a blowtorch and a hose. Maybe something like that might work for you.
03:30 PM FinboySlick: For thousants, the thermal stress might get you where you want to be.
03:35 PM jymmmm: drdoc: So where does the $30 come into play for a $250 mobo?
03:59 PM JT-Shop2: that's the same technique they use to straighten aluminum bulkheads on ships
04:07 PM Deejay: gn8
04:31 PM _unreal_: hello
04:39 PM gregcnc: finboyslick, yes, I decided not to mess with it. servo motor shop will take care of it
04:39 PM gregcnc: moral of the story: don't drop things while fixing them
04:43 PM jymmmm: gregcnc: keep your paws out of the lube
04:47 PM gregcnc: well I put it on the table and it flipping rolled off
04:48 PM DaViruz: could be bearing brinelling. i dropped a servo motor on it's shaft once
04:49 PM DaViruz: rear bearing brinelled pretty badly
04:51 PM gregcnc: bare rotor
04:54 PM _unreal_: damn brinelling
05:05 PM DaViruz: gregcnc: oh :(
05:08 PM jymmmm: I don't care how it looks. Would brushing oil on 1" plywood make it durable against rain/snow?
05:09 PM jymmmm: oil? diesel fuel?
05:15 PM SpeedEvil: jymmmm: ish
05:15 PM SpeedEvil: jymmmm: it may slightly improve the weather resistance.
05:16 PM SpeedEvil: Adding carbon black helps a fair bit more for UV resistance.
05:16 PM SpeedEvil: Or if you are willing to define oil as including drying oils - sure.
05:17 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: carbon black???
05:18 PM SpeedEvil: yes
05:18 PM SpeedEvil: Or using black oil.
05:18 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: I don't know what "carbon black" is.
05:18 PM jymmmm: like used motor oil?
05:18 PM SpeedEvil: It is very small carbon.
05:18 PM SpeedEvil: yes.
05:18 PM SpeedEvil: Used motor oil contains lots of stuff that tends somewhat to kill bugs and absorb UV
05:19 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: how long would you guess it would take to soak in to not leave the surface "oily"?
05:19 PM SpeedEvil: quite a long time.
05:20 PM SpeedEvil: It tends to stay 'mark your fingers' for quite a while if you brush it - but it will be covered in dust
05:22 PM drdoc: jymmmm: I got the motherboard for free
05:23 PM drdoc: $30 is for a better CPU
05:23 PM jymmmm: drdoc: ah
05:23 PM jymmmm: OH, I just remembered I have a gallon of gloss PU I could use!
05:24 PM drdoc: with a RAM-to-disk dd and 3 glxgears running, that Celeron sits at 3.5 load average
05:24 PM _unreal_: SpeedEvil, ahh oil on wood NO
05:24 PM SpeedEvil: and yes, use paint.
05:24 PM _unreal_: you have to seal it
05:25 PM SpeedEvil: Or you need a lot of oil, or a setting oil.
05:25 PM drdoc: polyurethane is nearly as cheap
05:25 PM _unreal_: what kind of wood do you want to protect?
05:25 PM SpeedEvil: Painting with something loaded with carbon black helps remarkably even if it is not oily for UV degradation.
05:26 PM SpeedEvil: Even if it is not a moisture barrier that is
05:26 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: UV isn't so much an issue. sitting in water/snow is
05:26 PM _unreal_: jymmmm, agreed
05:26 PM _unreal_: uv is more of an issue of it breaks down the coating
05:27 PM drdoc: I can attest that motor oil or diesel will warp plywood pretty quickly, then delaminate it almost as fast
05:27 PM _unreal_: drdoc, shhhhhhhhh
05:27 PM _unreal_: ;)
05:27 PM drdoc: lol
05:27 PM _unreal_: HEHE I spent 35 years in WINTER.
05:27 PM * _unreal_ does NOT miss winter
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: Yes, I meant to add that - if the concern is protection against UV and incidental rain/snow, a light oil coating will help somewhat to a lot depending.
05:28 PM SpeedEvil: If the concern is driving snow or worse - submerged - you are actually going to have to soak it fully in oil for it to help at all.
05:28 PM _unreal_: your best bet is to use a dual coating
05:28 PM drdoc: _unreal_: it the mid-'80s a bunch of the Yankee steelworkers came down to Texas to work in the oilfield
05:29 PM _unreal_: a sub coating of an epoxy or urethane, and a top coating of a UV paint
05:29 PM drdoc: the refinery biz up there had gone to hell
05:29 PM drdoc: We were working mostly on the Caprock - West Texas and Eastern New Mexico
05:30 PM _unreal_: drdoc, your in texas right?
05:30 PM drdoc: most of the Northern boys suffered through summer ok, but nearly all of them went back home the first winter
05:30 PM jymmmm: Is PU good for sealing playwood?
05:30 PM drdoc: It was "too damn cold" in Texas
05:30 PM drdoc: _unreal_: yes
05:31 PM _unreal_: how is the illegal mexicans issue for you
05:31 PM _unreal_: in your area?
05:31 PM drdoc: jymmmm: I've had good luck with it
05:31 PM _unreal_: we are flooded here south florida
05:31 PM jymmmm: drdoc: thanks
05:31 PM drdoc: _unreal_: I know it ain't popular in this community, but I'm absolutely in favor of full amnesty, and opening the border
05:32 PM jymmmm: TACOS!!!
05:32 PM drdoc: I don't know about FL, but in all the states that share a border, we have a full-on Prohibition Effect happening
05:32 PM _unreal_: ?
05:33 PM drdoc: liquor was illegal, nobody stopped drinking, and the prohibition made the criminals sole provider of a universal commodity
05:34 PM _unreal_: well time to take a shower
05:34 PM drdoc: Mexicans are illegal, nobody's stopped hiring them, and that's created a huge criminal network
05:34 PM jymmmm: HEll, they dug long ass tunnels to smuggle drugs.
05:35 PM drdoc: I'm in favor of legalizing *use* of drugs as well.
05:35 PM drdoc: for all the same reasons
05:35 PM jymmmm: Will NEVER happen drdoc
05:35 PM drdoc: I know
05:36 PM jymmmm: BIG pharmacutical will never allow it
05:36 PM drdoc: the War On Drugs is way too profitable
05:36 PM jymmmm: It's the reason weed is still a Class 1 drug
05:36 PM drdoc: Well....
05:36 PM jymmmm: If it was class 2, they could do medical research
05:37 PM drdoc: That particular problem is crumbling under its own weight
05:37 PM jymmmm: and THAT would cut into big pharm progits
05:37 PM jymmmm: profits*
05:37 PM drdoc: Big Pharma is starting to watch the rest of the world steal that market
05:38 PM jymmmm: Cause they can't control it anymore
05:38 PM drdoc: and Cali & Colorado are demonstrating a very workable solution
05:38 PM drdoc: jymmmm: that's what I meant by "crumbling"
05:39 PM drdoc: BP has a finger in the cannabis dyke, while the flood is coming over the top & drowning them
05:39 PM jymmmm: drdoc: Ah, yeah. they might have bought the feds, but the states are saying fuck off =)
05:39 PM andypugh: I think COlorado might soon have a problem with weed. There does seem to be a crazy amoint about.
05:40 PM Tom_L: andypugh, it's "legal" there
05:40 PM andypugh: I smelt a lot more weed out and about than I saw drinking in public.
05:41 PM drdoc: andypugh: it's amazing how many drinkers would rather get high
05:41 PM drdoc: the big problem in Colorado is DUI
05:41 PM andypugh: Yes, the weed shop in Manitou springs is using the car museum car-park for overflow parking. Says a lot about the relative popularity of the two things.
05:41 PM drdoc: heh
05:42 PM drdoc: There's not really a good immediate test for THC impairment
05:42 PM jymmmm: drooling is a good indicator =)
05:42 PM cradek: then it's not an important thing
05:42 PM drdoc: true
05:43 PM drdoc: cradek: it is
05:43 PM cradek: if it's a big effect it should be simple to test
05:43 PM drdoc: smoking pot affects attention span and judgment, but not so much motor response & balance
05:44 PM drdoc: so a person who's high enough to be dangerous in traffic can easily pass a standard field sobriety test
05:44 PM drdoc: and US or blood testing is basically yes/no
05:44 PM drdoc: UA*
05:46 PM andypugh: A chap drove in to the side of our fuel truck (F150 with a couple of 300 litre tanks in the back). He _claimed_ he had a terrible cold :-)
05:46 PM drdoc: andypugh: please pardon me if I laugh?
05:46 PM JT-Shop2: dang
05:47 PM andypugh: He was pulling out of a fuel station as we went past. We did actually slow markedly just at that point, it was vaguely understandable.
05:47 PM drdoc: I quit getting high 30 years ago, but I smoked daily for 20 years before that
05:47 PM andypugh: We all felt a big jolt, but could not see _any_ sign of damage tot he truck.
05:48 PM andypugh: He must have hit the wheel / tyre is all we can conclude.
05:48 PM drdoc: the impairment from using weed is very different from the impairment from alcohol, but it's still a serious danger
05:49 PM andypugh: He wanted to give is $50 just in case, but given that it was a company vehicle and we had no idea how to report an accident, I think we would have told him to quietly leave even with significant damage….
05:50 PM Tom_L: you could have gotten a bag of weed :)
05:50 PM Tom_L: for the $50
05:50 PM * _unreal_ is SOO much cleaner now
05:50 PM _unreal_: now if my child could just get her laundry done I can get my shi........t done
05:50 PM drdoc: Tom_L: a very *small* bag
05:50 PM Tom_L: inflation...
05:50 PM andypugh: Last time I saw actual weed was in upstate NY in 1986.
05:50 PM andypugh: A very large bag
05:51 PM _unreal_: long gone are the days of the dime bag
05:51 PM andypugh: The UK market is all resin.
05:51 PM andypugh: (if that is the technical term)
05:51 PM _unreal_: hehe I moved into a house 20 years ago/ renting
05:52 PM _unreal_: and there was some areas that were full of left over stuff
05:52 PM andypugh: It’s one of those things. I quite like it, I partake if it is offered, but have never bought any.
05:52 PM _unreal_: and I came across a book. and there were someting like 200 "pressed POT LEAVES in this big thick ass book
05:53 PM andypugh: I reckon is it probably less worserer than booze.
05:53 PM _unreal_: andypugh, I tried a number of times. found it did NOTHING to me or for me. and gave up
05:53 PM _unreal_: my friend teased me that my "tolerance was far to high"
05:53 PM andypugh: (I had a German class today, we were playing around with comparative words in German and in English. Like when is it “bad, badder, baddest” rather than “bad, worse, worst”
05:54 PM _unreal_: badderest
05:54 PM drdoc: worsest
05:54 PM _unreal_: est
05:54 PM Tom_L: i think every generation butchers the language a little more
05:55 PM _unreal_: I'll drink to that
05:55 PM andypugh: Well, in the Old West it would be the “baddest outlaw” not the “worst outlaw” as the latter suggests he isn’t very good at oulawing.
05:55 PM * _unreal_ gets an other beer
05:55 PM _unreal_: and preps to start doing cad work
05:55 PM Kevin`: unnecessary words. ungood, plusungood =p
05:55 PM Tom_L: check the list of new words introduced to the dictionary some time
05:55 PM _unreal_: heeh like "doh
05:57 PM _unreal_: https://www.dictionary.com/browse/doh
05:58 PM jthornton: dang it forgot to fill up the deer feeder and it's after dinner time
05:59 PM gregcnc: are the deer complaining?
06:00 PM jthornton: my buddies mom has a bunch of deer and they complain if you don't toss the corn out soon enough, mine are pretty quiet and have a food plot near the feeder
06:00 PM _unreal_: how could you starve those poor tasty morsels
06:00 PM jthornton: I have a doe and two fawns that pretty much live on my property
06:00 PM andypugh: “doh a deer, a female deer…”
06:00 PM * _unreal_ loves neck meat
06:01 PM _unreal_: though I prefer moose
06:01 PM andypugh: I prefer mousse.
06:01 PM _unreal_: damn good stakes
06:01 PM jthornton: I prefer black bear
06:01 PM andypugh: neck meat? stakes? Are you a vampire?
06:01 PM _unreal_: had it. not bad
06:01 PM _unreal_: yes I love stakes
06:02 PM _unreal_: its the season ass hole ;)
06:02 PM _unreal_: speaking of my daughter is being a haloween cross dresser I think? kind of cat woman, kind of a vamp. kind of wonder woman
06:02 PM _unreal_: hehehe
06:03 PM _unreal_: "dady daddy look"
06:03 PM * _unreal_ responce.... speachless
06:05 PM andypugh: I was looking for a hotel in Rovaniemi today, there is one called the Aakenus. I know you can get arc-eye from careless welding, but arc-anus would be a whole different level of carelessness.
06:05 PM jthornton: lol
06:06 PM jthornton: a salesman for Hitachi VFD's came by one day long ago and his name was Charles Bumpass
06:06 PM jthornton: must have been rough for him in school
06:07 PM andypugh: I think I have mentioned the sectretary at work called “Autumn Blight”. It might not be too bad in the US, but in the UK that’s a crop disease (of potatos)
06:08 PM andypugh: …And a friend of mine used to work for Siemens, in Staines (Middlesex )
06:08 PM jthornton: yikes that's bad the potato disaster
06:09 PM Tom_L: cable company here is "Cox" and it goes without saying if you're employed there you get asked if you work for cox
06:09 PM jthornton: I think we had cox cable in LaPlace
06:12 PM andypugh: Wayne-Kerr always sounds a bit dodgy to UK ears.
06:13 PM andypugh: http://www.waynekerrtest.com/index.php
06:13 PM drdoc: andypugh: stick welder + wet floor & boots + injudicious squat for line-of-sight eyeballing
06:16 PM andypugh: You spent a disturbingly long time thinking up that scenario
06:17 PM jymmmm: 90m - Two Years Alone in the Wilderness | Escape the City to Build Off Grid Log Cabin -- It's actually pretty good... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AxM9FYSs8V4
06:17 PM jymmmm: 90 minutes long
06:19 PM jymmmm: oil/diesel soaked wood http://www.cruisersforum.com/forums/f55/paint-for-oil-soaked-wood-75610.html#
06:21 PM drdoc: andypugh: nope
06:21 PM drdoc: I'm told I lifted one end of a 350lb welding table off the floor
06:23 PM andypugh: Hmm, could be useful under some (extreme) circumstances.
06:27 PM roycroft: so it looks like i can flip the collar upside down and use it that way
06:28 PM roycroft: also, i just checked, and i can easily do 45 degrees with a single 1/2" socket u-joint, as long as it's snap-on
06:28 PM roycroft: craftsman and hf won't quite do 45 degrees
06:28 PM roycroft: but i think i'll use two anyway - with just one the lifting/lowering will not be even
06:29 PM roycroft: it will move at a sinusoidal rate, not constant
06:29 PM roycroft: and with two it will be constant
06:29 PM roycroft: i can likely get two craftsman for less than the price of one snap-on anyway
06:29 PM roycroft: it's just some more fitments to do
06:34 PM _unreal_: remilling one of the last parts for my daughters mini cnc machine
06:34 PM _unreal_: the main body bed
06:35 PM _unreal_: I did it before but used the worng sized material used 1" instead of 3/4"
06:35 PM _unreal_: sigh
06:35 PM _unreal_: running my little CNC to its max limits
06:35 PM _unreal_: heh
06:38 PM roycroft: just sand it down to thickness :)
06:40 PM jymmmm: Just toss it in a sulfuric acid bath to 1/4" deep :D
06:40 PM _unreal_: hum
06:40 PM _unreal_: I'll have to load an an other photo when I get around to it.
06:40 PM _unreal_: my daughters little machine looks neet
06:40 PM _unreal_: I want to go to bora bora
06:42 PM _unreal_: google" bora bora desktop wallpaper "
06:43 PM _unreal_: lol everyone must have googled
06:45 PM rmaw: long shot, but anyone use/used old charmilles EDM machines with isopulse d80
06:45 PM rmaw: I have one with no instructions and very little to go on but pressing buttons
06:46 PM rmaw: build in about 1978
06:46 PM _unreal_: DONT press the red button
06:46 PM rmaw: built*
06:46 PM _unreal_: 78.. hehe older then me
06:46 PM rmaw: well, red is emergency stop, got that one sorted
06:46 PM rmaw: me too
06:47 PM jymmmm: rmaw: https://www.gfms.com/country_US/en/about-gf-machining-solutions/press-room/literature/EDM-Literature.html
06:47 PM rmaw: https://i.snipboard.io/vqLgnJ.jpg
06:47 PM rmaw: thats the control panel
06:48 PM jymmmm: rmaw: also, try the cnc forum, I'm sure someone knows
06:48 PM jymmmm: https://www.cnczone.com/forums/
06:48 PM jymmmm: there is a EDM section
06:49 PM rmaw: posted on practicalmachist and cnczone so far. Only been 1/2 a day so I'll give it some time
06:49 PM jymmmm: try the link I gave?
06:49 PM rmaw: all i've found so far is an image of the same machine for sale years ago with a handy looking box full of documents
06:49 PM rmaw: Just had a look- thanks
06:49 PM rmaw: but this seems to predate all of those
06:50 PM jymmmm: k
06:52 PM rmaw: I mean, any educated guesses on the buttons I dont know are always welcome. This is where i'm at so far - http://codepad.org/4iAYWhJT
06:52 PM rmaw: especially vauge on the top rows, obviously for controlling the waveform and power to some extent
06:53 PM roycroft: sounds like it's time for you to start drawing a schematic diagram of the thing
06:53 PM roycroft: then you'll know for sure what everything does
06:54 PM rmaw: definately the next stage yeah. if we can't figure most of it out. but even then its somewhat guess work with stuff like the waveform controls
06:56 PM rmaw: be nice to know I am not going to set it all on fire with a wrong button press. especially when there is a massive tank of kerosene that gets pumped in and out
06:56 PM roycroft: remove the kerosene before you push the buttons :)
06:57 PM _unreal_: what is your EDM machines model number
06:57 PM rmaw: D420
06:58 PM rmaw: this isn't mine but the same
06:58 PM rmaw: http://www.mechanics-group.bg/home/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/Charmilles-D420-1-1260x1481.jpg
06:58 PM CaptHindsight: who makes a scanner with a volume up to 1m^3 that output in some open format?
06:58 PM CaptHindsight: laser or structured light
06:59 PM roycroft: a schematic is something i'd want to have anyway
06:59 PM roycroft: because some day it's going to break
06:59 PM roycroft: at a critical time, when you can't mess around figuring out the wiring
07:00 PM rmaw: yeah, well hopefully someone on the forums has it all
07:21 PM _unreal_: there the main body to my daughters CNC machine has been milled
07:21 PM _unreal_: matched up nice
07:21 PM _unreal_: just needs to be screwed together
07:24 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: 3d scanner?
07:34 PM CaptHindsight: jymmmm: yes
07:36 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.amazon.com/EinScan-Pro-Function-Multi-Functional-Handheld-Industrial/dp/B079GV9GHR/ref=sr_1_3 similar to
07:39 PM Elmo40: oh, the cheap one. i have 3!
07:39 PM Elmo40: O_o
07:40 PM Elmo40: the reviews of 5-stars are a tad on the light side for details...
07:40 PM Elmo40: maybe fake reviews?
07:43 PM _unreal_: 3 of them?
07:43 PM _unreal_: for all the cad work I do you should give me one
07:44 PM _unreal_: heh..
07:44 PM _unreal_: I just sent a message to one of my co workers showing the lables I just did in cad
07:44 PM _unreal_: milling laer tonight
08:04 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: Um, make one using a camera?
08:04 PM CaptHindsight: don't has time fer evrythins
08:06 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGYsRXnazM4
08:14 PM CaptHindsight: yeah the david
08:15 PM CaptHindsight: jymmmm: makesum fem me, I gonna sellem fer yuh
08:16 PM CaptHindsight: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/2c/f8/38/2cf8381d65cebcd00b01ede8a20e1c19.jpg $$$$$
09:42 PM jymmmm: CaptHindsight: CBD =)
10:01 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/gallery/qnHIOxK
10:04 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/gallery/ExXm07W pretty goodly!
10:42 PM Elmo40: ugh... damn liberals are in again.
10:42 PM Elmo40: anyways.
10:43 PM Elmo40: CaptHindsight, go'damn that is wicked!
11:02 PM _unreal_: yay midnight and just starting a milling job
11:02 PM _unreal_: soo much to do
11:48 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1UnYCdaJ_NkxSoRKrc2QDcyepSrGQf4A3