Oct 20 2019
02:22 AM Deejay: moin
04:20 AM gonzo_: someone mentioned rocket stoves??
04:20 AM gonzo_: Yes I built one. And excellent it is.
05:34 AM jthornton: morning
05:35 AM XXCoder: yo
06:22 AM Tom_L: morning
06:23 AM XXCoder: yo
06:35 AM t4nk_freenode: moaning
06:36 AM XXCoder: mooning
07:13 AM _unreal_: sup
07:59 AM jthornton: looking at the TBS Unify EVO 5.8GHz Video Transmitter
07:59 AM jthornton: it has a much better antenna mount
08:00 AM XXCoder: is it quad antenna?
08:00 AM XXCoder: 4 loops enclosed inside a little dome
08:00 AM jthornton: yea
08:00 AM XXCoder: if not that apparently is a huge upgrade for range and quality'
08:00 AM XXCoder: cool
08:00 AM jthornton: https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-unify-evo-5-8ghz-video-transmitter.html
08:01 AM XXCoder: interesting
08:02 AM jthornton: https://www.getfpv.com/tbs-triumph-5-8ghz-cp-fpv-antenna.html
08:02 AM XXCoder: i want to try pov plane but so costky
08:02 AM jthornton: I think that is the antenna I use
08:03 AM XXCoder: designers love gray text on white background so much now
08:03 AM XXCoder: good thing pluygins dont "get worn"
08:07 AM methods_: you can get fpv plane for fairly cheap nowadays
08:08 AM methods_: https://www.banggood.com/Sonicmodell-Mini-AR-Wing-600mm-Wingspan-EPP-Racing-FPV-Flying-Wing-Racer-RC-Airplane-PNP-p-1341528.html
08:09 AM XXCoder: hmm doesnt come with controller and vr
08:09 AM methods_: there are kits that do
08:23 AM jthornton: yea but you need two things, a place to fly and a place to land a plane
08:25 AM jthornton: and living in the city you typically have all but two of those requirement
08:26 AM jthornton: s
08:27 AM XXCoder: yeah lol
08:27 AM jthornton: that's why something like a tiny whoop is better if you have to fly in your yard or house
08:28 AM XXCoder: yeah seems im not abkle to do drones
08:28 AM XXCoder: that or ones I have is really crap
08:29 AM jthornton: it could be either one, is it stable in a hover?
08:29 AM XXCoder: "newbie" mode which is auto stable
08:29 AM XXCoder: except it cant stay still in slight wind
08:30 AM jthornton: without GPS it can only keep the altitude stable
08:30 AM jthornton: you sill have to fly it
08:30 AM XXCoder: yeah though I cant make headway against slight wind too lol
08:31 AM jthornton: yea that sounds like a very cheap one, have you flown it indoors?
08:31 AM XXCoder: yeah it wasnt too bad though stil not quite stable. that is after flat surface calibration
08:32 AM _unreal_: OMG this desktop is killing me only because I'm still waiting for my memory to arrive
08:32 AM _unreal_: 8x the cpu power but half the ram instaled :(
08:32 AM _unreal_: compaired to this laptop I'm on right now with 8gigs ram and dual boot linux/win
08:33 AM _unreal_: hehe the laptop with a simple intel gpu and older intel dual on the windows side with fusion360 is kicking my core2quads ass with 4gigs and NVIDIA gpu
08:34 AM jthornton: XXCoder, what sucks about learning to fly is if you don't have anyone around to learn from it's a trial and error thing
08:34 AM XXCoder: inferior thing doesnt help tio lol
08:34 AM jthornton: aye
08:34 AM XXCoder: i havent even tried camera attachment lol
08:35 AM jthornton: I have a couple of small ones that fly pretty well, little tiny battery and prop guards so if you bump into anything it won't hurt it
08:35 AM _unreal_: jthornton, little secrete
08:36 AM _unreal_: one sec let me find a link
08:38 AM _unreal_: jthornton, https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32903869404.html
08:38 AM _unreal_: you can get ultra high quality "car backup cams" for dirt cheap
08:38 AM _unreal_: dust and WATER PROOF
08:38 AM _unreal_: and they are 12v composit video
08:38 AM XXCoder: night vision too apparently lol
08:38 AM _unreal_: no different then 99% of the FPV cams
08:38 AM _unreal_: yes
08:39 AM _unreal_: just watch out for bad fish eye
08:40 AM jthornton: I'm looking for a good camera for my S500 similar to what's on the Phantom 3 Pro
08:40 AM _unreal_: the 4k?
08:40 AM jthornton: I have a nice Run Cam on there but it's tiny
08:40 AM jthornton: yea
08:40 AM _unreal_: so your looking for camera platform not FPV cam
08:40 AM _unreal_: mainly
08:40 AM jthornton: correct
08:40 AM _unreal_: lot of options
08:40 AM jthornton: yea I know
08:41 AM _unreal_: fixed mount turrent
08:41 AM jthornton: yea, I have a gimble for the tarot 680 but that's down the road a bit
08:41 AM jthornton: or manually adjustable
08:42 AM jthornton: break fast time here
08:42 AM _unreal_: ya its about that time here as well
08:43 AM _unreal_: 9:36 but hay :)
08:43 AM _unreal_: thinking I may make coffee
08:43 AM _unreal_: just DONT want to use my spog co grinder with the stuff I got
08:43 AM _unreal_: OMG sooooo hard to mill with it
08:44 AM _unreal_: https://assets.catawiki.nl/assets/2017/8/28/2/8/6/286b5b3e-ebe7-430b-81c4-270c0bbb84e6.jpg
08:44 AM _unreal_: I have one of these grinders
08:44 AM _unreal_: a sponge co #2
08:45 AM _unreal_: THEEEE best manual grind coffee grinder EVER
08:45 AM _unreal_: french press baby
08:46 AM _unreal_: number of years ago I saw a #3 in an antique shop for $100, I couldnt afford DIRT at that time frame :(
08:47 AM _unreal_: Xwife and obama bs
08:48 AM XXCoder: yeah obama personally ordered you ruined
08:48 AM _unreal_: I was working for Hinckleys one of the most well known boat builders in the world. and the foney OBMAMA and the dem led congress pass the "luxury tax" put me right out of work
08:49 AM _unreal_: the entire luxury industry collapsed
08:49 AM _unreal_: I wasnt the only one
08:50 AM _unreal_: hinckleys layed had to lay off people in droves, went from a plant with 275 people to 25 inside of 45 days
08:53 AM _unreal_: the interior design company that worked closely with them and the "customers" folded they were in the same commercial park. and as I recall at least 12 or more other companys folded or all but did at that time. I had to switch to nursing. got my CNA/CRMA and a few other med licenses. thats ALLLLLL there was for work in maine
08:53 AM XXCoder: well as IO was graduating, dot.com crashed.
08:54 AM XXCoder: did i blame president for that? no.
08:54 AM XXCoder: it was college, note, for IT and CS
08:55 AM XXCoder: I could not find job for years afterwards
08:55 AM XXCoder: did I blame president? no.
08:55 AM XXCoder: I finally got job 6 years ago. did I attribe it to president? no.
09:01 AM _unreal_: 10am time to make breakfast
09:01 AM _unreal_: I find it funny, my daughter now chooses her laptop with fedora loaded on it over her desktop with win10
09:02 AM _unreal_: and she's 10
09:30 AM drdoc: _unreal_: kids are smart like that
09:55 AM * JT-Shop2 designs a vertical rack for dimensional lumber for under the lean to
10:33 AM Deejay: re
10:37 AM Tom_L: http://fifthaxis.com/shop/
10:47 AM JT-Shop2: Tom_L: got some 400f rubber gasket coming tomorrow and some 1/8" polycarbonate to try
10:48 AM Tom_L: nice
10:52 AM JT-Shop2: hope to have some better luck
10:54 AM Tom_L: figure out a window?
10:55 AM Tom_L: once it droops i think you gotta be pretty quick to mold it before it cools too much
10:58 AM JT-Shop2: on the 3/32" it still was not hot enough everywhere after 5 minutes at 350f
10:58 AM JT-Shop2: 1/8" should dry faster and heat up easier
11:08 AM _unreal_: this sucks
11:08 AM _unreal_: now that breakfast etc... is oover with I'm starting to clean my room.....
11:09 AM _unreal_: not becuase its dirty. I have to totally move EVERYTHING do to finding my floor totally soaked last night and doing a late night condensation drain repair...
11:09 AM _unreal_: sigh
11:10 AM * _unreal_ does not want to totally re-orange his room. NORE do I want to find out how much stuff has been destroyed :(
11:10 AM _unreal_: I knowe ALLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLLL of my 1990's pcgamer and pcgames magazines are totaled :(
11:11 AM _unreal_: likely 300 in a big box soaked and molding from the looks of it :(
11:11 AM _unreal_: I was so hopping to look at them in 20-30 years
11:11 AM _unreal_: and say remember when... :()
11:12 AM _unreal_: :(
11:15 AM Tom_L: been there recently
11:16 AM Tom_L: water heater blew out at 1:30 am leaving 3" water all over
11:19 AM _unreal_: ya I remember the EXCITING photo
11:43 AM jymmmm: Morning folks
11:53 AM _unreal_: all my wrapping paper toast, my hifi speakers are toast.. still digging
11:58 AM SpeedEvil: :/
11:58 AM Tom_L: morning jymmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmmm
11:59 AM Tom_L: _unreal_, got insurance?
12:01 PM _unreal_: not going to cover this
12:01 PM _unreal_: isolated to a single closet
12:01 PM _unreal_: most of the house "being in florida" is cinderblock
12:02 PM _unreal_: cinder block, strapping, sheet rock and trim
12:02 PM _unreal_: not much to most homes in south florida
12:05 PM jymmmm: Toast? As in burnt? How?
12:19 PM _unreal_: toast as in NFG
12:19 PM _unreal_: destroyed
12:19 PM _unreal_: wrecked
12:20 PM _unreal_: there has been a leak in the closet area for a VERY long time now likely 6 months. I had no idea
12:20 PM Tom_L: i had a whole pile of books i had to get rid of
12:20 PM _unreal_: and it was caused by two things
12:20 PM _unreal_: @#$%@#$%# roofers ripping off the gutters in the front.
12:21 PM _unreal_: there is a cement "flower basin" in the front of the house that is PART of the house. summer is rainy season. it flooded. got a new gutter up.
12:22 PM _unreal_: found a few more leak days WTF.. discovered the gutter was leaking between the seams. I sekaflexed the crap out of it on the top side.
12:23 PM _unreal_: last night I stepped in water WTF..... come to find out there is no drain in the flower basin, its part of the house its made of cinder block and its leaking INTO the house. and the AC condensation drain drains INTO it
12:23 PM gregcnc: Anyone familiar with FAG spindle bearings? I have a B designation after the contact angle B7008-EB. no reference to B anywhere. these are older
12:23 PM _unreal_: gregcnc, few of us work with gay tools
12:23 PM gregcnc: ok
12:24 PM Rab: -_-
12:24 PM gregcnc: 7th grade all over again?
12:24 PM Tom_L: gregcnc, i've heard of em yes
12:24 PM _unreal_: we are mostly HETERALSEXUAL tool users here ;)
12:25 PM _unreal_: Soo...
12:25 PM gregcnc: FAG has been around a long time, any how none of the catalogs i have found or have saved make reference to the B designation
12:25 PM _unreal_: we found out that do to all of the rain getting into the flower basin, we dug down and discovered that is 3' deep and 2'10" full of water
12:26 PM Tom_L: https://www.ahrinternational.com/FAG_nomenclature.shtml
12:26 PM _unreal_: and the constant AC dripping into it.
12:26 PM _unreal_: ya fucked
12:26 PM gregcnc: tom_l yes, but what is it?
12:27 PM _unreal_: going to take a photo of my :( pc gamer mags..... the they are bursting out of the box and pushing on the walls and bending the walls.... its scary looking.
12:27 PM _unreal_: I never even knew because the closet area is so full of STUFF
12:27 PM _unreal_: not till the water came all the way out
12:27 PM _unreal_: mold everywhere
12:27 PM Tom_L: gregcnc it's a barden company
12:27 PM Tom_L: check there too
12:27 PM Tom_L: or vise versa
12:28 PM gregcnc: btdt
12:29 PM Tom_L: k
12:29 PM gregcnc: probably have to call Schaeffler
12:29 PM Tom_L: they should know
12:30 PM _unreal_: check that out https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ufbk32KWIoS6D_UsMdH88Fdldo_OAWY9
12:30 PM _unreal_: :(
12:30 PM _unreal_: the brown on the tile is dirt
12:30 PM _unreal_: from the flower pot outside
12:31 PM _unreal_: there is a very green water line in some areas on the front of the house as well were water is clearly running out
12:31 PM Tom_L: gregcnc, i would take the first "B" to be BALL BEARING, SINGLE-ROW, ANGULAR CONTACT 40 DEGREES.
12:32 PM _unreal_: between the slab and the cinder blocks
12:32 PM gregcnc: not the first B
12:32 PM Tom_L: i'd call em
12:32 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, you look at that link?
12:32 PM Tom_L: that diddn't happen overnite
12:33 PM _unreal_: NO....
12:33 PM gregcnc: you just can't count on keeping anything forever in the basement, unless you are on top of a hill
12:33 PM _unreal_: my room was JUST starting to smell like a fart
12:33 PM _unreal_: I was like wtf??
12:33 PM _unreal_: gregcnc, thats not the basement
12:33 PM _unreal_: thats my bedroom closet
12:33 PM _unreal_: single floor houme
12:33 PM gregcnc: through the wall
12:34 PM _unreal_: home
12:35 PM gregcnc: so many houses are poorly built or repaired
12:35 PM Tom_L: what you can't see doesn't matter....
12:35 PM gregcnc: or improperly
12:36 PM gregcnc: and so many realestate agents are totally clueless
12:36 PM Tom_L: home inspectors shouldn't be
12:36 PM _unreal_: clueless=dont care
12:36 PM gregcnc: no, they just don't get it.
12:37 PM Tom_L: i had a decent one, i think i got lucky
12:37 PM gregcnc: I dealt with one who didn't understand wells and septic absolutley require permits
12:37 PM _unreal_: I house sit for my father because he travels the world with his job being the director for a fortune 1000 company. so he's often gone 6-8 months out of the year
12:38 PM _unreal_: he has 3 homes
12:38 PM _unreal_: florida, puerto rico, mass
12:38 PM gregcnc: so it's probably not a 100k house either?
12:38 PM _unreal_: heh
12:38 PM _unreal_: no more like 500,000k
12:40 PM _unreal_: kept telling me your going to in inherit one of these houses. now its Your going to buy this house off of me. so I can go down size.
12:40 PM _unreal_: I'd rather have the house in PR....
12:40 PM _unreal_: AirBNB any one
12:41 PM _unreal_: I talked to airbnb and they said I could likely make 1-2.5k a week doing that
12:41 PM _unreal_: and its right on a golf course upper left hand corner of PR
01:11 PM * _unreal_ is drinking beer and cursing over the idea of getting into the next area of blaaaaaaaa
01:11 PM _unreal_: so depressed my mags are fucked :(
01:12 PM _unreal_: they were in MINT condition 6 months ago
01:18 PM _unreal_: so quiet
01:44 PM _unreal_: shhhh
02:22 PM jymmmm: jumppacks are very good things =)
02:49 PM miss0r: Have any of you guys ever used(and experiences) issues with a drillDoctor?
02:49 PM taloot: hello guys i just recived my cards from mesa.net
02:59 PM JT-Shop: never messed with drillDoctor but once
03:00 PM SpeedEvil: I have contemplated one. All sane reviews seem to be it can greatly improve a blunt drill. Does it do a perfectly optimal job - no.
03:00 PM SpeedEvil: Does it do a better job than you can do on a grinder - for many people yes.
03:01 PM Tom_L: linuxcnc drill grinder
03:02 PM miss0r: SpeedEvil: For many people, yes :)
03:02 PM JT-Shop: my buddy has two and tried to give me one, I refused... not impressed with the finish at all
03:02 PM miss0r: I bought this one for my dad a few years back. He had me take it home to try'n figure out what was wrong with it, as the drills it sharpens now does not cut
03:02 PM jymmmm: People only give away tools they don't want
03:03 PM miss0r: I said; yeah, I need to sharpen some small drills anyway.
03:03 PM miss0r: It beats me on the grinder hands down, doing 4mm and lower drills
03:04 PM JT-Shop: I've given away tools that are perfect and work well, just could not figure out what to do with 12 sets of sockets
03:04 PM miss0r: I just figured out he had managed to tighten the knob all the way down - the knob that determins the relief angle. It was basically negative
03:05 PM miss0r: I just sharpened a few drills with it, and they eat nicely through mild steel now, Issue solved - now to look at my 'needs a new grind'-box
03:05 PM jymmmm: JT-Shop Yeah, but you might give away that semi so so tool that cost $60 and don't anyone touch that DAMN GOOD $20 tool =)
03:06 PM miss0r: jymmmm: Moar money ? moar better... :þ
03:06 PM _unreal_: fuck me
03:06 PM jymmmm: miss0r So people believe, eh
03:06 PM miss0r: hehe yeah
03:06 PM _unreal_: the closet is now more or less "clean ish"
03:07 PM _unreal_: just finished tossing all 200 lbs of mags. soaked with dirt and water
03:07 PM _unreal_: looks like the next project is going to be pulling the sheet rock later this week
03:08 PM _unreal_: the lower molding is just falling off everywhere that it was weat
03:08 PM _unreal_: wet
03:08 PM _unreal_: and loads of dirt behind it
03:55 PM jymmmm: Hmmm, IDK... It says up to 6.5L (mines 4.6L) and 600A (CCA???), but when I tried starting my car normally with a clamp on ampmeter rated at 600A max, it OL it. https://www.amazon.com/dp/B01D42TYFC/
03:56 PM jymmmm: 600 china amps???
03:56 PM SpeedEvil: OLd the meter?
03:57 PM jymmmm: OL = OverLoad, basically > 600A MAX
03:58 PM jymmmm: Klein CL800 clamp on ampmeter
03:59 PM SpeedEvil: Then you want one with >600A CCA at least - I'm not sure what the issue is
03:59 PM SpeedEvil: OR are you saying it's great.
04:00 PM jymmmm: SpeedEvil: They are saying that jumppack will work on a bigger engine than I have but it's only rated at 600A
04:00 PM SpeedEvil: ah
04:00 PM jymmmm: I'm assuming the 600A is CCA
04:01 PM SpeedEvil: get a bigger one then.
04:01 PM SpeedEvil: In general, if stuff is ambiguous, take the worst interpretation.
04:01 PM SpeedEvil: Also - if >600A for 10ms, it may not matter
04:02 PM jymmmm: Well, at least 2 seconds, maybe 5 seconds
04:06 PM Deejay: gn8
04:18 PM _unreal_: just did a deep bleach mopping of the corner
04:18 PM _unreal_: at least its not STICKING any more
04:18 PM _unreal_: omg... was reeking of FART after really digging into all the mold shit
04:18 PM _unreal_: balaaa
06:13 PM jthornton: now to redesign the sheet goods rack to hold sheets and shorts, 2x rack under lean to is done and filled up
06:16 PM XXCoder: yay im home
06:16 PM jthornton: been traveling?
06:17 PM XXCoder: drop off friend at his home
06:17 PM XXCoder: he stayed here for 2 days for expo
06:17 PM jthornton: I finished my 2 by lumber rack out under the lean to
06:18 PM jthornton: trying to unclutter the shop
06:18 PM XXCoder: nice!
06:18 PM XXCoder: removing breeding centers
06:19 PM jthornton: yea sheets and 2x and 1x all leaning against the wall and take up 30' of space and you can't get to anything because it's behind something
06:23 PM XXCoder: cool :)
06:24 PM jthornton: been wanting to get that done since I got the lean to built
06:24 PM jthornton: I flew up to 250' today from my driveway
06:24 PM XXCoder: just dont go above clouds ;)
06:24 PM XXCoder: nice tho
06:25 PM jthornton: yea just getting used to flying by watching what the camera sees
06:25 PM jthornton: been wanting to do that since I got the first multirotor
06:30 PM XXCoder: will you join races?
06:30 PM XXCoder: saw pro races before it was insane
06:30 PM XXCoder: of course in ANY task theres always someone insanely skilled on it.
06:33 PM jthornton: no, not into FPV racing
06:34 PM jthornton: can't see in goggles as I need reading glasses
06:34 PM jthornton: even if I could see still not interested in that
06:34 PM XXCoder: makes sense. yeah im never any good on "twitchy" stuff
06:35 PM jthornton: I used to have a plane we called the trike-it, me and a buddy designed it and it would almost stop in mid air and fly very slow with full control
06:36 PM jthornton: it had huge control surfaces
06:36 PM jthornton: time to cook
06:37 PM XXCoder: yummy
06:37 PM XXCoder: nice. there was old planes that probably can fly slower than normnal walking speed, at right wind headway
06:45 PM XXCoder: hmm who asked about hardening white powder?
06:45 PM XXCoder: anyway its boric acid apparently
07:03 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: hardening poweder? for ???
07:04 PM XXCoder: oh protecting part against oxide while hardening
07:04 PM XXCoder: some guy come in and asked "what is white powder on it?"
07:05 PM XXCoder: I finally was able to ask clickspring what it was
07:05 PM XXCoder: hes currently in discord lol chatting about abustives
07:07 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: Oh, you are one of THOSE people....
07:07 PM XXCoder: damn im caught out as immortal guy. guess its new name and profile thing
07:08 PM XXCoder: oh discord oh totally sure. yeah im caught as discord
07:08 PM XXCoder: user
07:08 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: No, a gamer ;)
07:08 PM XXCoder: lol
07:08 PM XXCoder: lets see
07:08 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: <---- gamer girl
07:09 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: how's the bath water sales?
07:09 PM XXCoder: 2 discord related to gaming. handhelds in general and chip challenge
07:09 PM XXCoder: no 3 if also include mystcraft one
07:09 PM XXCoder: bath water sales?
07:09 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: minecraft?
07:10 PM XXCoder: yeah myst addon for minecraft
07:10 PM jymmmm: the old Myst from the 90's ?
07:10 PM XXCoder: yeah mystcraft allows you to Write ages and visit em
07:10 PM XXCoder: you probably will live though it if you write reasonable well lol
07:10 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: All blocks, or ??
07:11 PM XXCoder: each block? no you put in details like blue sky, one sun, void age, etc
07:11 PM XXCoder: you can write pretty strange age
07:12 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: You are writing your own minecraft mods?
07:12 PM XXCoder: hell no
07:12 PM jymmmm: lol
07:13 PM XXCoder: i did make alternate world gen but didnt go far
07:14 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: there's a mod that looks very realistic
07:15 PM XXCoder: you mean changing render?
07:16 PM jymmmm: IDK, looking for the video
07:16 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: wanna make an electric chair? lol
07:16 PM XXCoder: :P
07:18 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: seriously.... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SIO6idCW1Qw
07:19 PM XXCoder: of course lol
07:20 PM jymmmm: =)
07:39 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s6KgcOe44ZA
07:39 PM XXCoder: whoa tghats crazy
07:40 PM _unreal_: OMG... under my bed as been just as bad as that photo of the corner
07:40 PM _unreal_: I cant believe al the mold and mud
07:40 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNU0VSdjIW8
07:41 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: textures here... https://www.patreon.com/ultimateimmersion
07:42 PM XXCoder: ya though not playing mc anymore
07:42 PM jymmmm: k
07:42 PM XXCoder: I explored in minetest it was interesting
07:43 PM XXCoder: very deep world lol
07:43 PM XXCoder: 64x64x64k map
07:43 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20191020_153802.jpg
07:43 PM skunkworks: Left one was just cut.. The right one was done when i first got the Green machine
07:44 PM XXCoder: making progress!
07:45 PM skunkworks: 2 of the stepper motors where assembled wronge (thrust bearings installed backwards..)
07:45 PM XXCoder: geez
07:46 PM skunkworks: so Z had a excesive amount of backlash - that when you tried to tighten the stepper pre-load would get worse.. (until we figured it out)
07:47 PM skunkworks: you can see the wide and narrow widths depending on the direction of cut...
07:47 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20191020_154338.jpg
07:47 PM skunkworks: compared to http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20191020_154548.jpg
07:58 PM taloot: guys i connect my 7i92M.. and set the ip
07:58 PM taloot: now what?
07:58 PM taloot: Pnconfig?
07:58 PM taloot: or do i have to flash Bit file
07:59 PM taloot: i want it to be for breakoutboard like c11
08:00 PM taloot: whats the diffrent between bit and bin file
08:02 PM _unreal_: I am sooo time and I have so much stuff to move still
08:02 PM _unreal_: I am soo tired
08:02 PM _unreal_: waiting for the floor to dry
08:05 PM _unreal_: skunkworks, look what I found in my room https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Ufbk32KWIoS6D_UsMdH88Fdldo_OAWY9
08:06 PM XXCoder: jeez
08:06 PM _unreal_: just as bad under the bed
08:06 PM _unreal_: I only discovered it last night
08:07 PM _unreal_: stepped in some water between the tiles I'm like WTF
08:07 PM XXCoder: houses heh
08:07 PM XXCoder: everyone loves water... till they buya house
08:07 PM _unreal_: it was caused by 2 tings
08:08 PM _unreal_: the gutters had been removed by the roofers in early spring. this house is one of my fathers 3 houses
08:08 PM _unreal_: btw
08:09 PM _unreal_: he didnt bother to replace then and wouldnt let me do it.. till we got water in the house.... because it filled the planter
08:09 PM _unreal_: then he did a SHIT job installing them
08:09 PM _unreal_: come to find out the seams were leaking baddly
08:09 PM _unreal_: INTO the flower pot again
08:09 PM XXCoder: jeez
08:10 PM _unreal_: then to top it all off the AC condensation line empties into the fucking flower pot. btw the flower pot basin is part of the house
08:10 PM _unreal_: its all cement
08:10 PM _unreal_: 2' deep with dirt no drains, and 1' 10" of water...
08:11 PM XXCoder: :(
08:11 PM _unreal_: late last night I did a fix to redirect the @#$%!@#$% drain
08:11 PM XXCoder: that'd wick water inside indeed
08:11 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, even worse
08:11 PM XXCoder: more so if theres micrpocracks or larger cracks
08:11 PM _unreal_: the box you see in the photo
08:11 PM XXCoder: yeah pc magazines one?
08:12 PM _unreal_: YES
08:12 PM _unreal_: cpu, pcgames, pcgamer, gamers insider, all kinds of old nintendo stuff
08:12 PM XXCoder: :(
08:12 PM _unreal_: something like 300+
08:13 PM _unreal_: last thing I ever expected
08:14 PM XXCoder: similiar happened to me 10 years ago
08:14 PM XXCoder: its why my closet stuff is all on plastic shelves
08:14 PM _unreal_: I'm cram packed in sadly :(
08:15 PM XXCoder: is those mold just black or greenish black?
08:15 PM _unreal_: some of everything
08:15 PM _unreal_: and mud
08:15 PM XXCoder: ehh that may be deadly black mold
08:15 PM _unreal_: I just bleached everything
08:15 PM XXCoder: normal mold that'd be enough
08:16 PM _unreal_: well I've been living in it for.... likely 6 months now
08:16 PM XXCoder: get true hepa filter to get rid of pollen
08:16 PM _unreal_: maybe I've been getting over dosed on penicillin. have not been sick in some time :)
08:17 PM XXCoder: its not instant kill, its slow progressive problems
08:17 PM _unreal_: I'm not allergic to much of anything at all
08:17 PM XXCoder: so you really need to clean air out with true hepa and bleach those again
08:17 PM _unreal_: dust mites
08:17 PM _unreal_: forced air system with hepa filter system
08:18 PM _unreal_: remember I'm in the south..... we dont really have "heating"
08:18 PM XXCoder: heating? when did I say heating?
08:18 PM _unreal_: just AC with heater coils in them
08:19 PM XXCoder: your strong filter system is probably why youre fine. clean it some out
08:19 PM XXCoder: maybe replace filter on your air system
08:19 PM XXCoder: 6 months is pretty good anyway
08:19 PM _unreal_: dont have a choice. system wont run if it detects the air flow is too low
08:20 PM _unreal_: I had a lot of other plans
08:20 PM _unreal_: for this weekend
08:20 PM _unreal_: My father is around for once so we took down all the storm shutters. err last of them
08:21 PM _unreal_: and to day I got to be fucked with this friggen issue
08:21 PM _unreal_: photo doesnt show it but I had to toss out expensive 7.1 suround speakers
08:21 PM _unreal_: matched set
08:21 PM _unreal_: :(
08:21 PM XXCoder: :(
08:21 PM _unreal_: all kinds of pc games I'm going to have to go and check
08:21 PM _unreal_: and dry
08:22 PM _unreal_: the cd's
08:22 PM _unreal_: :S
08:22 PM _unreal_: lot of them were burned
08:22 PM _unreal_: what pissis me off is there was a considerable amount of water on my daughters side to..... I know I KNOW she saw it but never said anything to me
08:23 PM _unreal_: could have addressed this likely months ago
08:23 PM _unreal_: My original goal for this weekend was to FINALLY get lcnc up and running on the freaking computer
08:23 PM _unreal_: YET AGAIN cant touch
08:23 PM _unreal_: side tracked
08:24 PM _unreal_: well time to go take a piss and start moving heavy shit again
08:24 PM _unreal_: :(
08:24 PM XXCoder: what age your kid is>?
08:24 PM _unreal_: 10
08:24 PM XXCoder: might not think of it as unusual
08:24 PM _unreal_: o,O
08:24 PM _unreal_: under her desk
08:24 PM XXCoder: or simply did not make note of it
08:25 PM _unreal_: when I found the water in my room I checked her room and there was lots of moldy areas in her room just like mine
08:26 PM _unreal_: and I had a cardboard sheet down cut like one of those matts to go under wheeled chairs at a desk
08:26 PM _unreal_: the entire area under the desk of hers was soaked
08:26 PM _unreal_: there is NO WAY she didnt know about it
08:27 PM _unreal_: I cant be mad at her because its not something you would expect... but I WOULD expect her to at least have said hay dad my floor is wet WHY.....
08:27 PM XXCoder: yeah. not much you can do but just deal with it
08:30 PM _unreal_: OMG.... this desktop is driving me nutty..... its sooo slow.... using fusion
08:37 PM _unreal_: shy on ram
09:03 PM norias: hmm
09:03 PM norias: by the looks of it, there's not a ton of activity in the free software CAM world
09:05 PM Tom_L: no not alot
09:05 PM jymmmm: FreeCad has CAM in it
09:06 PM XXCoder: its been progressing slowly. i think stalled again?
09:15 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, they get your new cnc up yet?
09:17 PM XXCoder: not mine heh
09:17 PM Tom_L: at work
09:17 PM XXCoder: dunno havent been there since wed
09:17 PM XXCoder: its setup but 2 problems lol
09:21 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: Problem 1) Oper, Problem 2) ator.
09:21 PM XXCoder: 1) spindle no go. 2) 4th no go
09:21 PM jymmmm: XXCoder: See Above =)
09:21 PM XXCoder: lolo
09:22 PM jymmmm: and on that note, gnight folks =)
09:24 PM norias: not sure how i feel about freecad
09:24 PM Connor: Anyone have a list of good mobo's for linuxcnc now? Need one with onboard vga, and dual nic's. Using PREEMPT-RT in conjunction with 7i76e
09:24 PM norias: but it seems like the only game in town
09:25 PM Connor: The supermicro mobo didn't play nice with the mesa card.
09:37 PM skunkworks: I had an older gigabit motherboard.. Don't know if you can get them still (dual nic)
09:38 PM skunkworks: have to look it up
09:41 PM skunkworks: Connor: like https://www.gigabyte.com/Motherboard/GA-J1900N-D3V-rev-1x#ov
09:42 PM skunkworks: that I think is running the matsuura..
09:43 PM skunkworks: and it has a printer port header...
09:43 PM skunkworks: ;)
10:01 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, I was going to say the same thing. FREE CAM? huh?
10:02 PM _unreal_: norias, My opinion about free cad is way over bloated
10:02 PM _unreal_: the learning curve is patheticly high
10:02 PM norias: free cam?
10:03 PM norias: where?
10:03 PM _unreal_: I'm not saying it doesnt work and its bad I'm just saying steep
10:03 PM _unreal_: freecad
10:03 PM _unreal_: oh free cam responding tom
10:03 PM norias: i think i only played with freecad once
10:03 PM _unreal_: norias, I'd suggest designspark
10:03 PM norias: i'm a solidworks user, mostly
10:03 PM _unreal_: then your all set :)
10:04 PM _unreal_: I use a multitude of softwares depending on what I'm doing
10:04 PM norias: yeah, i'm screwing with opencascade
10:04 PM _unreal_: norias, I'd suggest designspark
10:04 PM norias: maybe to suck in step files and do some sort of analysis, i dunno
10:04 PM _unreal_: ?
10:05 PM _unreal_: norias, I've designed this with designspark https://drive.google.com/open?id=1fNUz8yQsjeJA0Uxd1_SwFodAyful3OVN
10:05 PM norias: i was thinking like a machinability analysis based on a set of heuristics
10:05 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QZydBdrzgvEeSeUNslRsTQ7cvXA6og3l
10:05 PM norias: cool, nice work
10:06 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Jhdu2UXy-NDLAabpD3d6cB-wlT9qazFm
10:07 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=109L7sMLiNTDbxkslCgYZTqCS7IMOIMbI
10:07 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1T5uEA2JTC1gaECmxKgZB1sSnysSH-vCO
10:07 PM _unreal_: That will give you an idea of the power of designspark
10:07 PM _unreal_: its VERY fast
10:08 PM _unreal_: that anchor holder took me an hour to design. the dove tail took me 70% of the time
10:08 PM _unreal_: anchor holder https://drive.google.com/open?id=1SmIvfuGkawcTfhEzMFGyFZLSWMvtQXfI
10:09 PM _unreal_: norias, ?
10:09 PM norias: cool.
10:10 PM norias: i'l have to play with it some time
10:10 PM norias: what kernel are they using?
10:10 PM _unreal_: DS is a direct modeling software
10:10 PM _unreal_: ?
10:11 PM norias: hmm. can it save step214?
10:11 PM _unreal_: let me check
10:15 PM _unreal_: and my computer is having a shit fit
10:15 PM _unreal_: I cant find ram anywheres. I came across some the right kind for my desktop only to descover its comming from china
10:17 PM _unreal_: .caml .stl .skp .pdf .vdb .obj .dxf .amf and its own format .rsdoc
10:17 PM _unreal_: .caml=.xaml
10:18 PM _unreal_: as to the ram... and of all things I ordered from newegg
10:19 PM _unreal_: so no I dont see step214 but fusion360 cam
10:19 PM _unreal_: can
10:19 PM norias: that sucks
10:20 PM _unreal_: the learning curve is not very steep though
10:20 PM _unreal_: at all
10:21 PM _unreal_: I've done some time test's my self aganced other people to draw items and I've found DS is much faster.
10:21 PM norias: yeah, but i don't see any useful file formats in there
10:21 PM _unreal_: but it does not have any real CAM features BUT on the other hand it does have a 3dprinter CAM ablity
10:22 PM _unreal_: dxf
10:22 PM _unreal_: and stl
10:22 PM norias: i can't do anything with those
10:23 PM _unreal_: ?
10:23 PM norias: so, you can model stuff, but you can't share it with anyone
10:23 PM norias: can you at least make blueprints?
10:23 PM _unreal_: sure I can
10:24 PM _unreal_: STL skp
10:24 PM _unreal_: dxf files
10:24 PM _unreal_: etc...
10:24 PM _unreal_: obj files
10:24 PM norias: does it have dimensioning and tolerancing?
10:25 PM _unreal_: yes
10:25 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=17Y1DFDBTftuhQYjT_0FDPKLmE9cCQxrS
10:26 PM _unreal_: I use different software for different things
10:26 PM _unreal_: I mainly use carbide create
10:26 PM _unreal_: but it lacks some much needed features, and it has a lot of software glitches
10:27 PM _unreal_: but its the most user friendly software outthere for limited CAD and good CAM
10:27 PM norias: yeah, i dunno
10:27 PM _unreal_: I own ESTLcam
10:27 PM norias: i'm not seeing this as useful software for me
10:27 PM norias: but thanks for sharing it
10:27 PM _unreal_: what do you do
10:27 PM norias: machine prototypes, mostly
10:27 PM _unreal_: of?
10:27 PM norias: whatever people pay me to
10:27 PM _unreal_: are we talking foam,
10:27 PM _unreal_: metal
10:28 PM norias: usually aluminum
10:28 PM norias: sometimes steel
10:28 PM _unreal_: 2d milling?
10:28 PM norias: occassionally titanium
10:28 PM norias: i think you'd call it more 2.5
10:28 PM _unreal_: or do you get into 3d miling
10:28 PM norias: sometimes minor 3d
10:28 PM norias: i usually just do the 3d bits by hand
10:29 PM _unreal_: can you view NC file?
10:29 PM _unreal_: files
10:29 PM norias: i'm ... not sure what you are asking
10:29 PM norias: is that a standard file format of some sort?
10:29 PM _unreal_: ok...
10:29 PM norias: you mean g-code files?
10:30 PM _unreal_: its WAYYYY older then STEP
10:30 PM _unreal_: yes
10:30 PM _unreal_: gcode nc files
10:30 PM norias: oh, sure, i have a text editor
10:30 PM _unreal_: are you running linux?
10:30 PM norias: not right now
10:30 PM _unreal_: ehhhh..... hum
10:30 PM norias: why?
10:30 PM norias: (solidworks)
10:30 PM _unreal_: can you view a gcode as in preview
10:31 PM norias: ...
10:31 PM norias: it's a text file
10:31 PM norias: there's no graphical / geometry data in there
10:32 PM _unreal_: camotics is my fave viewer
10:33 PM norias: ok
10:33 PM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6nq-keKP2gc
10:33 PM _unreal_: look at that
10:33 PM XXCoder: did they ever fix backwards play bug
10:33 PM _unreal_: camotics is just one software that can do previewing of gocde files
10:34 PM _unreal_: ?
10:34 PM _unreal_: no idea
10:34 PM _unreal_: never heard of it
10:34 PM XXCoder: heh when it loads gcode it starts at end and plau backwards
10:34 PM norias: lol
10:34 PM Wolf__: preview gcode? just run the shit
10:34 PM norias: or read it
10:35 PM XXCoder: norias: its great for seeing what shape is result of running it
10:35 PM norias: M30 - stop tape, rewind
10:35 PM norias: maybe that's the problem
10:35 PM _unreal_: norias, https://drive.google.com/open?id=10MLBQXee-33djBb4kWd6c-Wew7gYVnKX good luck reading that
10:35 PM XXCoder: if its preview wjhat program will do rather than what it will look like, I just use linuxcnc
10:35 PM norias: they are reading while the tape is going backwards
10:35 PM Wolf__: yeah, that too, I usually look over it quickly to check feed/speed
10:36 PM norias: _unreal_- that's also not written by hand, so your cam should be doing the "preview"
10:37 PM _unreal_: right
10:37 PM _unreal_: thats massive 3D gcode files
10:37 PM norias: so, why would i need a different software
10:37 PM norias: if cam already does the same thing?
10:37 PM _unreal_: ? you asked
10:38 PM XXCoder: its not quite same norias.
10:38 PM _unreal_: heh
10:38 PM XXCoder: cambotics you can see the result of program
10:38 PM XXCoder: simulated result anyway
10:38 PM norias: which is what CAM does
10:38 PM norias: any reasonably recent one
10:38 PM XXCoder: "reasonable decent" = money
10:38 PM * _unreal_ remembers the days of turbocnc
10:39 PM _unreal_: and his 486 dx50mhz laptop driving his first cnc machine
10:39 PM _unreal_: ahhh.. the wonder years
10:43 PM _unreal_: norias, do you use linuxcnc?
10:43 PM XXCoder: I didnt know cnc machine was a concept till I guess 8 years ago
10:43 PM XXCoder: no, 7
10:43 PM _unreal_: huh?
10:44 PM _unreal_: I'm not sure I know what you mean
10:44 PM XXCoder: I found out about it then later joined this channel
10:44 PM _unreal_: I built my first cnc machine 20 years ago
10:44 PM XXCoder: so I could slowly build my own crappy cnc machine to build better one. way did THAT plan get derailed
10:44 PM XXCoder: *boy did
10:45 PM * _unreal_ gets popcorn, hear comes back story :)
10:45 PM XXCoder: it was extremely ironic I got cnc machinist job
10:46 PM flyback: <flyback> https://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/
10:46 PM flyback: <flyback> front page for all you iot people here
10:46 PM flyback: <flyback> 6 watts solar $10
10:47 PM XXCoder: _unreal_: I still have parts of cnc machine I ended up never using. dunno what to do with em lol
10:52 PM _unreal_: hum
10:53 PM XXCoder: set of SBR rails, and set of ballscrews
10:57 PM _unreal_: hum
10:57 PM _unreal_: what size?
10:58 PM XXCoder: uhh forgot I would say 250mm or so
10:58 PM _unreal_: !
10:58 PM XXCoder: or 300mm?
10:58 PM _unreal_: that size or a big longer I might be interested
10:59 PM _unreal_: bit
10:59 PM XXCoder: lets see if link still works lol
10:59 PM _unreal_: I need to build a new home cnc. my current one works great BUT its small
10:59 PM _unreal_: STRONG as hell but small
10:59 PM XXCoder: 300mm 600mm 600mm ballscrews
11:00 PM _unreal_: ! interesting
11:00 PM XXCoder: sbr 12 16 20 600mm
11:00 PM XXCoder: 300mm on small sbr12
11:00 PM XXCoder: surpised link still works
11:00 PM XXCoder: $236 and $117
11:01 PM _unreal_: original price
11:01 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest19139
11:01 PM XXCoder: dunno its been few years its good chance they increased price since lol
11:01 PM _unreal_: not even hardly
11:01 PM _unreal_: if anything gone down
11:02 PM _unreal_: god, there giving rails and ball screws away now. ebay bangood aliexpress etc....
11:03 PM XXCoder: heh i bet quality have gone down too
11:03 PM _unreal_: I only have 2 extrusion sesctions :( but its enough to make the two major standoffs
11:03 PM _unreal_: no argument there
11:05 PM XXCoder: https://www.ebay.com/itm/3-ballscrews-RM1605-300-600-600mm-3-nuts-BK-BF12-/250451252435
11:05 PM XXCoder: https://www.ebay.com/itm/250729742630
11:10 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
11:16 PM _unreal_: well have to do some yacking. I dont know if they are the size I need
11:17 PM XXCoder: heh sbrs was only cheaper option back then
11:17 PM _unreal_: ya
11:17 PM XXCoder: block ones finally got cheap by now
11:17 PM _unreal_: block are still crazy expenive compaired to sbr
11:18 PM _unreal_: there just make the bed
11:18 PM _unreal_: good lord
11:18 PM _unreal_: I have so much work todo tomorrow when I get home
11:18 PM _unreal_: this leak really bleeped my weekend
11:18 PM _unreal_: I had planned to finish my daughters little cnc machine. NOPE
11:18 PM _unreal_: side tracked again
11:19 PM XXCoder: yeah
11:19 PM _unreal_: I didnt even get to take her to the playground or anything
11:20 PM XXCoder: you had to kill water and mold very dead in a hurry
11:20 PM _unreal_: yep
11:20 PM XXCoder: are you drying rooms out now?
11:20 PM _unreal_: they are dry
11:20 PM XXCoder: \I mean humidity and such
11:20 PM _unreal_: south florida
11:20 PM _unreal_: hehe
11:20 PM _unreal_: humidity is a thing
11:21 PM XXCoder: lol
11:21 PM _unreal_: the AC is the closest to a dehumifyer we have
11:21 PM _unreal_: speaking of its like 81F outside
11:22 PM _unreal_: sorry 82
11:22 PM _unreal_: https://www.google.com/search?q=boca+raton+temperature&oq=boca+raton+temp&aqs=chrome.1.69i57j0l5.323961j0j4&sourceid=chrome&ie=UTF-8
11:22 PM _unreal_: oh goody tomrrows highs in the 90's
11:22 PM XXCoder: heavy rain here for while, and humidity in my room is 46f
11:22 PM XXCoder: 46%*
11:23 PM _unreal_: the middle of winter 56F would be low
11:23 PM _unreal_: here
11:23 PM _unreal_: it can freeze but your talking once every 20 years
11:24 PM _unreal_: winter here is like summer for the rest of the US
11:24 PM _unreal_: 60's overnights 70's for the day
11:24 PM XXCoder: lol
11:24 PM _unreal_: key west is really nice
11:25 PM _unreal_: its always 84F
11:25 PM XXCoder: and summer is summer^2 for rest of usa
11:25 PM _unreal_: depends on if your inland or not
11:25 PM _unreal_: if your on the coast its freaking SWEET
11:26 PM _unreal_: LOL https://www.google.com/search?sxsrf=ACYBGNSj4Q49pXxC1hPRE2HZ6TFmd-DyOA%3A1571631352603&ei=-DCtXba5JMyosgWMwZRo&q=KEY+WEST+temperature&oq=KEY+WEST+temperature&gs_l=psy-ab.3..0i7i30j0i20i263j0i30j0l2j0i7i30j0j0i7i30l2j0.234933.235804..236117...0.3..1.263.1034.1j6j1......0....1..gws-wiz.......0i71j0i13.vzId7DEyVOI&ved=0ahUKEwi2lfWDv6zlAhVMlKwKHYwgBQ0Q4dUDCAs&uact=5
11:26 PM _unreal_: look at the temp scale
11:26 PM XXCoder: lol
11:30 PM _unreal_: well 12:30 I'm going to bed
11:30 PM _unreal_: not tired at all but I have to work
11:30 PM _unreal_: I give up waiting for the desktop to finish installing updates
11:30 PM _unreal_: @#$@# win
11:30 PM _unreal_: only at 24% been going for an hour already
11:31 PM XXCoder: bleh
11:42 PM Elmo40: that is nothing
11:43 PM Elmo40: fresh install of win7 last year and it needed 1.8GB+ of updates!
11:43 PM Elmo40: did that, took 6.5hrs... 800 reboots later and it needed another ~800Mb of updates... another 3Hrs...
11:44 PM Elmo40: i have no idea why they can not package updates like Linux.
11:44 PM Elmo40: apt-get is the best!!
11:44 PM XXCoder: linux can update 99.9% of time without reboot.
11:44 PM XXCoder: windows reboots if it updates notepad
11:44 PM Elmo40: exactly!
11:45 PM Elmo40: no shit, eh. so lame.
11:45 PM Elmo40: well... this time tomorrow (or a little earlier) we get results on the election.
11:46 PM flyback: http://www.bgmicro.com/bat1087.aspx
11:47 PM flyback: Elmo40, eh? is a stupid canuck eh? tickle me moose elmo
11:47 PM Elmo40: i'll tickle your moose nuts... with my steel toe boots!
11:47 PM flyback: haha
11:47 PM Elmo40: fucking liberals are gonna win (again). I cringe.
11:48 PM Elmo40: the population is just full of greedy morons.
11:48 PM XXCoder: oh btw https://www.goldmine-elec-products.com/ dunno if those are good deal and dunno what countries they ship to
11:51 PM Elmo40: not bad for pricing
11:52 PM Elmo40: well, not bad if it was Canadian peso pricing... but they are from Arizona
11:52 PM Elmo40: so
11:52 PM Elmo40: fuck that noise.