#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 16 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:57 AM Deejay: moin
02:07 AM sensille: drdoc: why?
04:09 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
05:25 AM Deejay: hi
05:29 AM Tom_L: morning
06:04 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
06:37 AM jthornton: https://youtu.be/o0acEF0KIUM
06:38 AM XXCoder: park seem to be utterkt emotty besides yourself
06:38 AM XXCoder: utterly empty
06:48 AM jthornton: yea not to busy in the morning, a few walkers and a couple of workers... most of the walkers park around the corner by the bathrooms
06:49 AM jthornton: the parking lot is for some sports fields
06:49 AM XXCoder: nic3
06:50 AM jthornton: System Requirements
06:50 AM jthornton: A computer with a Windows 10 operating system is required to run the Flight Simulator. :(
06:52 AM XXCoder: :(
06:55 AM jthornton: https://forum.dji.com/thread-182879-1-1.html
06:56 AM jthornton: looks like it will work in windblows 7
06:56 AM XXCoder: give it some wine?
06:57 AM XXCoder: probably wont work. wine isnt great. isnt there a wine fork?
06:58 AM jthornton: for sure it would not work in wine, too slow
06:58 AM XXCoder: too bad
07:08 AM jthornton: I have two galaxy s4 phones, mine the camera quit working so I started using my wifes old s4 but I dropped it and it got ran over by a spyder
07:09 AM jthornton: I replaced the screen and every thing worked except no sound when calling so I took the camera from that phone and put them into my old phone and now I have a working phone again
07:10 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qS7fy4qBC-g
07:13 AM SpeedEvil: :)
07:22 AM pink_vampire: jthornton: what are you trying do do?
07:46 AM Loetmichel: re from the public pool. First time in 15 years swimming again... did about an hour of swimming back and forth. MAN am i exhausted now. But it was nice, not overly expensive either. My wife and me should do that on a weekly basis ;)
01:42 PM Loetmichel: GNAH! i whish i would work with pros only ONCE... Just finsihed 3 of 4 kitchen cabinet doors... the fourth: 15mm to short. I gave the worker at the wood shop four spruce boards 2000mm by 300mm... "Cut those in 4 pieces 490mm and 4 pieces 500mm!"... what does he do? cuts one board into 49cm parts and one in four "50cm" parts... and i didnt notice until now. :-( (hint: the circular saw blade
01:42 PM Loetmichel: is 5mm thick)
01:42 PM drdoc: sensille: I have a 12V/24V power supply, and my lcnc system is eventually going to be a 12VDC-powered mini-itx board
01:43 PM drdoc: the PSU is 2 PC-server power supplies in series
01:43 PM Tom_L: maybe not such a good idea to combine switching supplies
01:44 PM drdoc: Tom_L: I've been running a 3D printer on that setup for over a year
01:44 PM Tom_L: go for it then
01:44 PM Tom_L: just saying...
01:44 PM drdoc: yeah, I was a little squeamish about it at first
01:44 PM Tom_L: one will always tug a bit harder than the other one
01:45 PM drdoc: http://www.tjinguytech.com/my-projects/server-ps
01:45 PM drdoc: the second setup on that page
01:47 PM drdoc: those PSUs have built-in overcurrent and overtemp cutouts, and are stupidly efficient
01:47 PM drdoc: anyway
01:48 PM drdoc: I know the 12VDC is stable enough to run the itx system, but it's also 54A
01:50 PM Tom_L: i've used the pico psu on my itx
01:50 PM SpeedEvil: If you can vary the voltage and they're stable to within 0.1V, and you put big schottky diodes in between, you can pretty much call it good
01:51 PM drdoc: SpeedEvil: *that* is what I was looking for
01:52 PM drdoc: the voltage is stable to about .03V - they're meant to power server systems
01:53 PM SpeedEvil: The other way is to cheat and use for example: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/DC16V-40V-To-1-12V-6A-Adjustable-Voltage-Step-Down-Module-Buck-Power-Converter/273768273600 - as an intermediary. Set a constant current limit at your desired voltage of no more than your input power supplies rating, and paralleling 'just works'
01:54 PM drdoc: I have a 24V/30A meanwell that's not nearly as consistent, voltage or current, as that Dell pair, and it cost 4 times what I have in the bodged-up rig
01:55 PM drdoc: I've looked at those buck converters - do you have any experience with the ChinaCo products?
01:56 PM drdoc: Digikey is quite a lot more proud of theirs
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: what's this about Shotty Diodes?!
02:14 PM drdoc: CaptHindsight: they prevent blowback from that old wore-out 12ga double
02:22 PM jym: Solenoid Engine 20m https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x4im3M9IFcI
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: jym: lotsa wobbles
02:39 PM jym: CaptHindsight: Maybe, but I still think kinda cool. I like the way he used microswitches for the timing.
02:39 PM CaptHindsight: I was outraged by it
02:40 PM CaptHindsight: but only for 3 seconds
02:40 PM jym: outranged? by what?
02:40 PM CaptHindsight: the wobbling
02:40 PM CaptHindsight: gets my goat
02:40 PM jym: ah
02:41 PM CaptHindsight: https://youtu.be/qO7aFRO5WMw?t=73 more outrage, he still has 5 fingers!
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: they told us in shop class that you will lose your fingers doing this!
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: more lies
02:43 PM jym: You started with 12, how many do you have now?
02:43 PM CaptHindsight: 13
02:44 PM jym: Well, shit, there ya go, somebody lost one and you found it
02:45 PM CaptHindsight: on my hands or in boxes?
02:45 PM jym: yes
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: I bet running with scissors is perfectly safe as well
02:52 PM jym: Oh it is, also running with 100 brand new razor blades
03:01 PM jym: No metal bender? No problem... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5mBXPtpCj84
03:33 PM jthornton: well my day started out with a bang... literally
03:33 PM XXCoder: errm dont sound good
03:34 PM jthornton: wife ran over something and it put a 1" square hole in the sidewall of her tire, cut on 3 sides
03:47 PM pink_vampire: WOW
03:47 PM XXCoder: thats unusual. sounds like sharp corner
03:58 PM JT-Shop: she was driving down the road no shoulder there
03:58 PM XXCoder: corner isnt nessicarly shoulder of road
03:59 PM SpeedEvil: For an optical measurement considerably better than yours:
03:59 PM SpeedEvil: https://arxiv.org/abs/1907.00104
04:00 PM SpeedEvil: The LRI has operated continuously without breaks in phase tracking for more than 50 days, and has shown biased range measurements similar to the primary ranging instrument based on microwaves, but with much less noise at a level of 1nm/Hzāāāā at Fourier frequencies above 100 mHz.
04:00 PM SpeedEvil: At 200km range
04:04 PM Deejay: gn8
04:07 PM roycroft: hi folks
04:07 PM roycroft: does anyone here subscribe to sketchup pro, and would be willing to convert a .skp file to a .dwg for me?
04:08 PM roycroft: zero editing/cleanup - just open the skp, export to dwg, and i'll deal with what it is
04:18 PM JT-Shop: XXCoder: there are no corners on that road, just smooth brand new pavement
04:19 PM JT-Shop: she had to have ran over something in the road, she has cataracts so vision is not that great until she gets new lens
04:27 PM _unreal_: hello
04:27 PM * _unreal_ feels so much better being back on linux
04:27 PM _unreal_: now with luck my "desktop" wont shit the bed again
04:30 PM _unreal_: ? hello?
04:30 PM _unreal_: yooo....hooooo...
04:30 PM _unreal_: sigh
04:35 PM JT-Shop: is there any tutorials for pixhawk online?
04:36 PM _unreal_: TONS
04:36 PM JT-Shop: and good ones?
04:37 PM JT-Shop: crap I forgot what I came in here for...
04:38 PM Tom_L: just to say hi
04:38 PM Tom_L: HI!!
04:38 PM jym: Hiii
04:39 PM JT-Shop: hi
04:40 PM jym: JT-Shop 5 part tutorial https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uH2iCRA9G7k
04:42 PM JT-Shop: k
04:42 PM JT-Shop: watch in the morning
04:44 PM * jym set's jt's alarm to 4am
04:45 PM JT-Shop: JT doesn't use an alarm any more
04:45 PM Tom_L: heh, i set one but it never goes off
04:45 PM Tom_L: always wake up ahead of it
04:47 PM jym: same
04:48 PM jym: skunkworks: Hey what was that thing you used to "update" older android phones?
04:49 PM * jym misses his 6.1" phone, but it doens't have 600MHz =(
04:55 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, google gitter ArduPilot/ardupilot
04:56 PM _unreal_: jym, a hammer :)
04:57 PM jym: _unreal_: STILL not going to get me 600MHz.
04:58 PM _unreal_: 600mhz?
04:59 PM _unreal_: I dont know what 600mhz is
04:59 PM _unreal_: in regards to that phone
04:59 PM _unreal_: btw JT-Shop I have the pixhawk4
04:59 PM jym: IT's in relation to what carrier cell towers cover
05:00 PM _unreal_: if you buy one DONT get a knock off
05:00 PM _unreal_: AHH ok jym
05:00 PM _unreal_: I didnt know if it was radio freq. or GPU oor blaa blaa blaa
05:00 PM _unreal_: heh
05:01 PM jym: Most cellphones are quad band, but not all have 600MHz. That allows me bigger/better coverage in rural areas.
05:03 PM _unreal_: I guess JT-Shop has other things going on :) well I'm going to go take a shower
05:03 PM _unreal_: let my tower go do its BS updates
05:16 PM JT-Shop: ok, good to know
05:16 PM JT-Shop: yea busy right now
05:19 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, also google gitter mavlink/mavros
05:19 PM _unreal_: http://github.com/mavink/mavros/issues/390
05:21 PM JT-Shop: I read something about fake ones and how to tell them apart
05:21 PM JT-Shop: http://github.com/mavink/mavros/issues/390 < 404
05:22 PM _unreal_: http://github.com/mavink/mavros/
05:22 PM jym: https://github.com/mavink/
05:22 PM * JT-Shop heads to the other shop to jig up the polycarbonate frame
05:23 PM _unreal_: oh JT-Shop I missed an l
05:23 PM _unreal_: http://github.com/mavlink/mavros/issues/390
05:23 PM _unreal_: That will work
05:24 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, https://github.com/mavlink in general
05:28 PM JT-Shop: is that the software you run on the pixhawk?
05:30 PM JT-Shop: https://shop.holybro.com/pixhawk-4beta-launch_p1089.html
05:31 PM JT-Shop: lots of options lol
05:42 PM _unreal_: much better clean...
05:42 PM _unreal_: I forget
05:42 PM _unreal_: I believe so
05:42 PM _unreal_: I have not flow my super quad in a long time
05:42 PM _unreal_: I had some laptop issue and the OBAMA BS really fucking up the RC industry
05:42 PM _unreal_: I lost a lot of interest....
05:43 PM _unreal_: I was planning on making a lot of money making racing frames and camera platforms etc... for I got scared with all the BS rules that were comming down
05:43 PM _unreal_: interestingly enough DJI was behind a lot of them
05:43 PM _unreal_: as far as a $ backer
05:44 PM jthornton: ok took notes for the morning
05:45 PM _unreal_: OMG I love it... tracking number ESTIMATED DELIVERY: Not Available
05:47 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, I use the taranis x9d flight controller
05:48 PM jthornton: let me go back out to the shop
05:48 PM _unreal_: As to the radio it would be an frsky something something with telem
05:48 PM _unreal_: OH NO YOU DONT ;)
05:48 PM _unreal_: I'd have to go dig the quad out to tell you. take me 2min at most
05:50 PM _unreal_: it has the x8r radio
05:50 PM _unreal_: and some special conversion hardware to pass the TELEM
05:50 PM JT-Shop: correction my Tarot is a 680 six rotor
05:50 PM JT-Shop: my xmitter is a Taranis - plus
05:51 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, as I said if your interested in a SUPER custom frame I have the tooling to do so
05:51 PM _unreal_: I can litteraly do ANYTHING
05:51 PM JT-Shop: right now just want to get the Tarot to fly
05:51 PM _unreal_: :) I have the original taranis :)
05:51 PM JT-Shop: I put the new gimbles in mine
05:51 PM _unreal_: I flight mode 2 inverted
05:51 PM _unreal_: or was it mode 3
05:52 PM _unreal_: been a while
05:52 PM _unreal_: more or less
05:53 PM _unreal_: basiclly every RC pilot has said my controls are upside down and backwards :)
05:53 PM _unreal_: and I have always said THANKYOU
05:53 PM _unreal_: OH SNAP
05:53 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop,
05:53 PM _unreal_: JT-Shop, you need to be in #multirotors
05:54 PM Loetmichel: _unreal_: mine are just swapped sticks
05:54 PM JT-Shop: my S500 has an Eagle Tree controller, it's ok but not as steady in hover as the DJI
05:54 PM _unreal_: ya I took my sticks out and swapped em
05:55 PM _unreal_: well like I said I can make any kind of a frame with any angle
05:55 PM _unreal_: I wanted to make a 2 degree pitch ARM setup marine quad but never got around to it as I said with the obama bs
05:56 PM _unreal_: never played with eagle tree
05:56 PM _unreal_: I do need to finish building m LKRT120
05:56 PM _unreal_: sitting right in front of me and I have never finsihed building the thing. will be so much fun to fly when its finished.
05:57 PM JT-Shop: what receiver do you use with the pixhawk?
05:57 PM _unreal_: I'm also building it as a down thruster setup. so I could build a custom wire landing frame which is all done. and I can use the full scope of the props which are 3" promps. they dont even fit on the frame unless they have an entire side of the frame to clean :)
05:57 PM Loetmichel: _unreal_: makes it a bit hard to fly other peoples copters ;)
05:57 PM _unreal_: x8r
05:57 PM _unreal_: hehe
05:58 PM Loetmichel: just tried a drone from a coworker a few months ago
05:58 PM _unreal_: I cant fly standard rc plane controls
05:58 PM Loetmichel: MAN did i have to work against my reflexes
05:58 PM Loetmichel: i can fly everything RC... if its with my transmitter ;)
05:59 PM _unreal_: my controls are much like your standard "turbo hopper"
05:59 PM Loetmichel: no matter if its fixed wing, helicpter, drone or even a RC parachute
05:59 PM Loetmichel: whats a turbo hopper?
05:59 PM _unreal_: I use to hav eone of these I MISS THIS MFER https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phBkKlYJxgM
06:00 PM Loetmichel: ah, i had the grasshopper once in my youth
06:00 PM Loetmichel: must be its great-grandfather
06:00 PM Loetmichel: :-)
06:00 PM _unreal_: ?
06:00 PM Loetmichel: of the turbo hopper i mean
06:00 PM _unreal_: dude the radio shack turbo hopper was from 20+ years ago
06:01 PM Loetmichel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Wr7O52KN7M
06:01 PM JT-Shop: I think that is the receiver I have in the s500 but can't see lol
06:02 PM _unreal_: but ya my controlls are simple. left stick is throttle and side motion, right stick and yaw and pitch
06:02 PM JT-Shop: I should write that crap down when I build
06:03 PM _unreal_: hehe Loetmichel I have a radio shack sageta
06:03 PM * Loetmichel flies like this: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=unhpTT-04vc
06:03 PM Loetmichel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o6RN8EPkIos
06:04 PM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S62IQe7vZNI
06:04 PM _unreal_: AND i HAVE THE BOX
06:04 PM Loetmichel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cDkgVJRTt-A <- or this... not my transmitter though
06:04 PM _unreal_: Loetmichel, was that a KK controller?
06:05 PM _unreal_: or just the esc's
06:06 PM Loetmichel: Thats a Mikrokopter.de Flightcontrol and ESCs
06:06 PM Loetmichel: quite a few years old i might add
06:06 PM _unreal_: ya 2010
06:06 PM _unreal_: in quads thats a century
06:06 PM jthornton: can you use a tablet with the pixhawk?
06:07 PM _unreal_: AAAAAHHHHHHAHAHAHAHAHAHA omg the antenna
06:07 PM _unreal_: jthornton, yes
06:07 PM _unreal_: you just have to have the right radio
06:07 PM _unreal_: a mavlink radio
06:08 PM jthornton: does it connect to the Taranis?
06:08 PM _unreal_: so OTG cable, then plug that into a usb to telem/mav link digtal connectioon
06:08 PM Loetmichel: which antenna?
06:08 PM _unreal_: and the other end is on the craft
06:08 PM _unreal_: in your video
06:09 PM _unreal_: Loetmichel, in your video
06:09 PM Loetmichel: which? transmitter or reciver?
06:09 PM _unreal_: at errr...aaa wait your both hitting me with the same or similar questions
06:09 PM _unreal_: I can dig it out
06:10 PM _unreal_: I have an entire wall dedicated to quad stuff take a a few to find the radio lnk
06:10 PM _unreal_: link
06:10 PM _unreal_: btw soon I have to go start making dinner... its pizza night
06:11 PM jthornton: be right over
06:11 PM _unreal_: let me find the adapter I'm talking about and I can give you the exact details
06:11 PM _unreal_: ?
06:11 PM _unreal_: oh
06:11 PM * jthornton had pizza for lunch
06:11 PM _unreal_: ehe
06:11 PM _unreal_: I made it from scratch
06:11 PM _unreal_: make
06:11 PM * jthornton can eat pizza all day
06:11 PM jthornton: me too
06:11 PM _unreal_: roll the doe etc...
06:11 PM _unreal_: HATE frozen pizza
06:12 PM jthornton: https://gnipsel.com/recipes/pizza/pizza-sauce-fresh.html
06:12 PM jthornton: that's the sauce I make
06:12 PM _unreal_: though.......! I do mind one type of frozen pizza. its like $2 USD a box and its big but its clearly CHEAP but DAMN good for dirt cheap
06:12 PM Loetmichel: _unreal_: i still fly 35Mhz. thats why the antennae are a bit bigger ;)
06:12 PM _unreal_: now theres a few hours of your live consumed by flavor ;)
06:13 PM _unreal_: AHHHHH ok
06:13 PM _unreal_: ya a guy down the road handed me a bunch of RC controllers are or mostly 72mhz range
06:13 PM Loetmichel: thats my transmitter: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=7474
06:13 PM _unreal_: he use to be really big on RC plates etc... but now he's aging out and broke both hips
06:13 PM _unreal_: hehe
06:13 PM Loetmichel: good old PPM ;)
06:13 PM _unreal_: ya...
06:14 PM jthornton: https://www.marcos.com/
06:14 PM jthornton: that's what I get when I'm in Cape Girardeau MO around lunch
06:15 PM Loetmichel: and as you can see i fly throttle and yaw right and nick and roll left
06:15 PM jthornton: mode 1?
06:15 PM Loetmichel: which is mirrored from what most of the RC pilots here do ;)
06:16 PM Loetmichel: jthornton: yes
06:17 PM Loetmichel: on a fixed wing i have it mode1
06:17 PM Loetmichel: on a multirotor i have roll and yaw swapped
06:18 PM jthornton: https://thumbs.worthpoint.com/zoom/images1/1/0113/15/heathkit-single-stick-radio-gda-1405_1_ad32b1d0329ef0e118f5e01ab406c798.jpg
06:18 PM jthornton: that was my first RC transmitter
06:18 PM Loetmichel: 403 forbidden
06:18 PM Loetmichel: geolocation?
06:18 PM jthornton: well carp
06:24 PM _unreal_: LOL GOOGLE "jared fogle release date"
06:25 PM jthornton: https://gnipsel.com/images/rc/heathkit-3-channel-tx.jpg
06:25 PM jthornton: try that link
06:30 PM jthornton: crap I'm 1.6GB behind in data for the month wtf used it up today dunno
06:30 PM _unreal_: ?
06:30 PM jthornton: I'm on limited Sat to 10GB a month
06:31 PM _unreal_: hum
06:31 PM jthornton: on a dead end dirt road off of a dirt road
06:31 PM _unreal_: do you get cell phone?
06:31 PM jthornton: yea since verison put a tower up a few miles away
06:31 PM _unreal_: look into cell phone internet plans
06:32 PM _unreal_: VERY cheap
06:32 PM jthornton: I used to have to use a wilson booster
06:32 PM _unreal_: and unlimited data connections available
06:32 PM _unreal_: though latency is not the greatest if your "still" a gamer
06:32 PM jthornton: not sure if I get that good a signal here
06:32 PM _unreal_: outside antenna
06:32 PM jthornton: not played doom in a long time
06:32 PM _unreal_: doom :)
06:33 PM _unreal_: I use to love doing dialup doom2 coop
06:33 PM jthornton: used to play that on dialup
06:33 PM _unreal_: GOD I use to lveo that
06:33 PM _unreal_: not even funny level
06:33 PM _unreal_: then I got old
06:33 PM _unreal_: :(
06:33 PM jthornton: damn how old are you lol
06:33 PM _unreal_: 40's
06:33 PM jthornton: still a youngster lol
06:33 PM _unreal_: I look like I'm in my 20's
06:34 PM _unreal_: aside from my gray hair
06:34 PM jthornton: I will need your help with pixhawk and getting the right stuff for my Tarot 680
06:34 PM _unreal_: are you using tarot radio hardware ?
06:35 PM _unreal_: btw the nice thing about pixhawk is that if you go with the opensource OS for the pixhawk its running NuttX
06:35 PM _unreal_: "linux"
06:36 PM _unreal_: there are a million and 10 settings I know nothing about
06:36 PM jthornton: I don't have any thing on the tarot but the motors and ESC's at the moment
06:36 PM _unreal_: AHHHH ok
06:36 PM jthornton: the S500 can fly with Eagle Tree, I need to see if there is any updates to it
06:37 PM _unreal_: then I would strongly encurrage you to look into frsky hardware
06:37 PM jthornton: the thing I like about the Phantom is being able to see what the camera sees, now to get brave and fly higher and fly further out
06:38 PM jthornton: I use frsky receivers on all my RC stuff including my foamy
06:38 PM _unreal_: you can see what it see's using the tarot
06:38 PM _unreal_: you just have to get FPV hardware
06:39 PM _unreal_: as to what radio link you want to go with.. thats your choice. just make sure your not going to have freq. conflicts
06:39 PM _unreal_: but your going to have to have a custom display setup with your taranis controller OR go with FPV goggles
06:39 PM jthornton: hmm snaked just chimed in on ##chickens
06:39 PM _unreal_: I have a $400 set of FPV goggles
06:40 PM _unreal_: OMG I'm going to have to charge up some batteries and og flying. I'm forgetting the names of my hardware
06:40 PM jthornton: I can't us FPV goggles due to having to use reading glasses
06:40 PM _unreal_: LOL
06:41 PM _unreal_: dude
06:41 PM _unreal_: they make FPV goggles FOR THAT
06:41 PM jthornton: https://i.imgur.com/DqBqbi2.jpg
06:41 PM _unreal_: both one's that have your prescription AND one's that you can put yoru glasses on with.
06:41 PM jthornton: I've never found any
06:41 PM _unreal_: :/ ugh....
06:42 PM jthornton: I'd rather have a tablet so I can look up and around too
06:42 PM _unreal_: https://www.getfpv.com/fat-shark-recon-v2-fpv-goggles.html?utm_source=google&utm_medium=cpc&adpos=1o5&scid=scplp9590&sc_intid=9590&gclid=Cj0KCQjw_5rtBRDxARIsAJfxvYDmlVqrtpiZAgHIWSETiMaab1oYADYegPWb340cRCskgzoX8QSBDTQaAuEyEALw_wcB
06:43 PM _unreal_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kJbV-Ck7WQA
06:43 PM _unreal_: ^^^
06:45 PM _unreal_: jthornton, as I said its up to you how to you want set it up. you also have to be careful of your freq. and that you dont get freq. over lapping. as well as over DB'ing your hardware
06:46 PM _unreal_: if you want range. then you need to look into the lower FREQ for video. if you want quality then your going to want to look into the digital dragon link stuff. but again check your freq.
06:46 PM _unreal_: well as I said I really have to go and make dinner now
06:47 PM jthornton: ok talk later
06:58 PM Loetmichel: jthornton: nice transmitter. either you are even older than me or that was a vintage piece when you first got it ;)
08:58 PM _unreal_: bunch of old farts we got here
09:02 PM Tom_L: you are one in the making
09:03 PM drdoc: 4
09:09 PM _unreal_: the truth it does hurt
09:43 PM skunkworks: Think I may have fixed the furnace.. It would stick on and act like it was calling for heat even though the thermostat wasn't
09:43 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/IMG_20191016_211758.jpg
09:43 PM skunkworks: every one of those resistors had a broken solder joint
09:43 PM skunkworks: you could tap the furnace control and it would shut off
10:08 PM genoober: hiya all
10:09 PM genoober: stupid question i just homed my X (first build) it seemed to run to the prox switch fine stopped like it should have but now x wont jog
10:10 PM genoober: joint 0 on limit switch error
10:11 PM _unreal_: you need to set your seettings
10:11 PM _unreal_: to HIT limit and jog off
10:11 PM _unreal_: limit is NOT The stop point
10:12 PM _unreal_: you want to jog off homing switch 2-5mm average. it is a setting
10:12 PM genoober: hmmm pncconf
10:12 PM _unreal_: other wise you have to turn off homing switches
10:12 PM _unreal_: idealy with a simple switch
10:13 PM _unreal_: I have a dual throw switch setup that show's a red LED when the homing switches are turned off and a green when they are on
10:13 PM _unreal_: so that if I crash into a limit etc.... I can just jog off
10:13 PM genoober: i was hoping to use some inductive proximity switches as both home and limit
10:14 PM _unreal_: inductive?
10:14 PM _unreal_: homing and limit are one in the same. the only difference is what is asigned as home
10:14 PM genoober: yeah like little metal detectors. very repeatable 0.01mm on my 3d printer
10:15 PM _unreal_: I have an opto board with 393's on it. I can adjust the sensitivity with POTs
10:16 PM skunkworks: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini-homing.html
10:16 PM genoober: these tie right into my 6i25 board npn output. they act just like a lil transister
10:18 PM skunkworks: you want to look at the homing sequence to have it back off the home/limit switch
10:18 PM skunkworks: and HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS
10:18 PM genoober: coolio thank you
10:19 PM _unreal_: who is coolio
10:20 PM genoober: as in cool yo
10:21 PM genoober: like groovy. thank you everyone :)
10:22 PM genoober: HOME_IGNORE_LIMITS = YES
10:34 PM genoober: mind if i spam the channel a lil bit of my config?
10:35 PM Tom_L: use a paste site
10:35 PM Tom_L: paste.ubuntu.com
10:35 PM Tom_L: etc
10:36 PM genoober: https://justpaste.it/3357u
10:38 PM _unreal_: you and your paste bin spaming lol
10:38 PM genoober: my bad
10:38 PM Tom_L: ignore him. he's a pest :)
10:40 PM genoober: what if he/she/it has good info (cant assume genders these days)
10:45 PM genoober: another stupid question.... any way to over ride a limit switch movement? turning off the machine and grabbing a wrench sucks
10:49 PM genoober: got it there is a stupid button lol for idiots like me
10:49 PM Tom_L: yes
10:49 PM Tom_L: ignore limits
10:49 PM Tom_L: read about it
10:50 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/config/ini-config.html#_axis__lt_letter_gt_section
10:51 PM genoober: tom you are an index :) and i mean that as a compliment.
10:53 PM Tom_L: what version of linuxcnc are you using?
10:54 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.8/html/config/ini-homing.html
10:54 PM Tom_L: that one explains the home switches etc
10:54 PM genoober: 2.7.14 id use 2.8 but cant figure out how to get the damned thing updated
10:55 PM genoober: tried downloading the source from git and had problems with dependencies not being available
10:56 PM Tom_L: what os?
10:57 PM genoober: debian iso from linuxcnc's download page
10:57 PM Tom_L: https://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/debian9-emc.html
10:57 PM Tom_L: follow the update path there
10:57 PM Tom_L: To install the latest build of LinuxCNC 2.8
10:57 PM Tom_L: from there fwd
10:58 PM Tom_L: i'd get your config working first
11:03 PM genoober: crap i broke it lol
11:06 PM genoober: rtapi_shmem_new failed due to shmget(key=0x00000064): Invalid argument
11:11 PM genoober: and how does one downgrade back to 2.7.14....
11:12 PM genoober: meh doesnt matter i have to be up for work in 6 hours so its bedtime.... have a great night everybody
11:28 PM drdoc: Tom_L: I had a question about 2.7 vs 2.8
11:29 PM drdoc: If I'm running 2 motors off 2 stepper drivers on Y, I need 2.8, yes?