#linuxcnc Logs

Oct 05 2019

12:00 AM drdoc: and naturally the ICs are unlabeled
12:05 AM Wolf__: thats the angle, sec
12:05 AM drdoc: woooo!
12:05 AM drdoc: https://www.probotix.com/wiki/index.php/PBX-RF
12:05 AM drdoc: Hurray Probotix!
12:05 AM drdoc: the ICs are the only thing not labeled in the schematic, and they're very clear to read in the photo
12:06 AM * drdoc has a bag of 74<mumble>245 chips
12:07 AM drdoc: thanks for that
12:07 AM drdoc: buying one off ebay would be cheaper than making one
12:07 AM Wolf__: yeah, not really much to them
12:08 AM XXCoder: drdoc: damn thats goooood latency
12:08 AM drdoc: except I think I *have* everything but the relay
12:08 AM XXCoder: it beats my old system hollow, its at 12k or so
12:09 AM drdoc: it's at 7 hours now, with no change
12:10 AM drdoc: load average sits around 2.5
12:11 AM * XXCoder buys plane ticket to drdoc's area, reserves car rent and buys certain clothing
12:11 AM drdoc: I may scrounge a better video card - the 512MB card died after a couple of hours, so I'm running an old 256MB GF 8600
12:11 AM drdoc: it'd be a lot cheaper just to duplicate my rig, wunnit?
12:11 AM drdoc: :-)
12:12 AM XXCoder: dammit. its also cheaper to just get rspi4
12:12 AM XXCoder: and MESA with it
12:12 AM drdoc: I think the PCIe NIC would probably be the most costly component in it
12:13 AM XXCoder: i think it dont have quite as good latency as yours but still better than mine
12:13 AM Wolf__: mesa ftw
12:13 AM XXCoder: I like mesa but still meh probably overkill for my machine dunno
12:13 AM drdoc: the thing is, if you believe CPUBench.com, that J1900 is damn near as fast as this Q6600
12:14 AM drdoc: I wish the z8xxx series had better Linux support and fewer cut corners
12:14 AM drdoc: A Dell/Wyse 3040 would be the cat's PJs
12:15 AM drdoc: anyhow
12:15 AM drdoc: I need to get v2.8 on the thing and either buy or build a breakout board
12:15 AM Wolf__: I had not much luck with the j1900 I have
12:16 AM drdoc: Celerons and Atoms are temperamental as hell
12:16 AM drdoc: and the microcode matters a lot, which means that the chipset, BIOS and board model are all important
12:17 AM Wolf__: yeah, I discovered that the hard way
12:17 AM drdoc: as cheap as hardware is, in the class we need, I vote for massive overkill
12:18 AM Wolf__: but that j1900 box is running a 7i96 so the latency will do
12:18 AM drdoc: there ya go
12:19 AM drdoc: is there a good "this does that, fits there, and requires that other thing" reference for the mesa gear?
12:19 AM drdoc: the Mesa storefront kind of assumes I know a lot more than I do
12:19 AM XXCoder: few experts here. not me
12:19 AM Wolf__: yeah, called ask jthornton- and pcw_mesa
12:20 AM drdoc: hah!
12:21 AM Wolf__: kinda just need to RTFM on them to get the general idea, some are stepgen some are analog for servo
12:21 AM drdoc: I wish I had the cash for that Probotix parallel port breakout
12:21 AM drdoc: even if it's no better than the chinese boards, that kind of documentation deserves support
12:22 AM drdoc: Wolf__: that's what I'm looking for, I guess just pull the manuals down and start reading
12:24 AM Wolf__: I sorta know which does what
12:26 AM taloot: hi
12:27 AM taloot: try diffrent memory stick
12:27 AM taloot: diffrent voltage
12:28 AM Wolf__: which mesa storefront btw drdoc
12:28 AM taloot: https://images.app.goo.gl/v8yfGebccmvFWyVeA
12:29 AM drdoc: well, the Mesa product page
12:29 AM * drdoc gulps
12:30 AM Wolf__: mesas.com is JT’s site
12:30 AM Wolf__: err mesaus.com
12:30 AM drdoc: the ADuM1410 that Probotix board uses is $6.50 a piece
12:30 AM drdoc: mesanet.com is where I was looking
12:31 AM Wolf__: yeah, thats pcw’s site, I think all the descriptions are written in EE speak
12:32 AM drdoc: lol
12:32 AM drdoc: that chip looks like it was designed for us though
12:32 AM drdoc: https://www.analog.com/en/products/adum1411.html#product-overview
12:33 AM drdoc: 1410 is the same chip with the couplers all the same direction
12:33 AM Wolf__: fancy
12:34 AM drdoc: yeah buddy
12:34 AM drdoc: for $7 it better be
12:34 AM drdoc: the 1MB/s version is only $5
12:36 AM drdoc: 3
12:36 AM taloot: i have question regarding latency test
12:36 AM taloot: i isolcpu=3,2
12:36 AM drdoc: ok
12:37 AM taloot: then i run htop i see thos isolated cores no active
12:37 AM taloot: not
12:37 AM drdoc: then it's working
12:37 AM taloot: yes but wait
12:38 AM taloot: the latency test active the last core
12:38 AM taloot: when i run latency test
12:39 AM taloot: somtimes ... it actives the 4th isolated core
12:39 AM taloot: somtimes not
12:39 AM taloot: debian 9.11 rt kernal
12:40 AM taloot: 1st why it somtimes. active the isoated core sometimes not
12:41 AM drdoc: my understanding is that linuxcnc is written to take advantage of the isolated cores
12:41 AM taloot: yes it occupy the last core
12:42 AM Wolf__: I read something about irq sometimes will use the other cores even tho isolcpu is set
12:42 AM taloot: always
12:42 AM Wolf__: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/18-computer/25927-reducing-latency-on-multicore-pc-s-success?start=0
12:42 AM taloot: but when i run the latency test sometimes the procoess run in isolated core ( which is work as expected) some times not
12:43 AM * Wolf__ has no idea how this linux witchcraft works
12:43 AM drdoc: taloot: I'm not sure latency-test incurs enough load to register
12:44 AM drdoc: the window itself belongs to Xorg, so it'll run on the general CPU
12:44 AM taloot: yes ok but the rtapi test goes to isolated
12:45 AM drdoc: right
12:45 AM XXCoder: dr its not complex. first you get a chicken, knife and memorize chant. those is first step
12:46 AM drdoc: I'm just saying I don't think that rtapi itself really loads the core
12:46 AM drdoc: XXCoder: you know more about this...
12:46 AM XXCoder: lol
12:47 AM drdoc: seriously
12:47 AM taloot: i ihave 2.0 us on j1900
12:47 AM drdoc: that's impressive
12:47 AM taloot: asrock
12:48 AM taloot: also i try n3150 but its bad
12:48 AM Wolf__: obviously not the same one I have lmao
12:48 AM taloot: u have gigabyte?
12:50 AM taloot: try to modife the bios wiith ami tool
12:50 AM Wolf__: https://www.newegg.com/p/N82E16813157494 asrock
12:51 AM taloot: the ram is the issue
12:51 AM taloot: whats the voltage
12:51 AM Wolf__: no idea
12:51 AM taloot: did u try to play with the voltage
12:52 AM taloot: memory
12:52 AM taloot: u have to play with it,, its the most effiective change u can make
12:52 AM taloot: for realtime
12:52 AM Wolf__: hmm
12:52 AM taloot: so dimm 2 type
12:53 AM taloot: Low voltage and normal.. both is same
12:53 AM taloot: 1.3v vs 1.5
12:54 AM taloot: change the voltage and you will see diffrance, im sure
12:56 AM taloot: any trick to detect lossing steps
12:56 AM Wolf__: I’ll have to take a look at it
12:57 AM taloot: i have proximiaty sensor
12:57 AM taloot: ram having the biggest impact on realtime performance
12:58 AM taloot: based on my tests
01:01 AM drdoc: Wolf__: is there any difference at all between the various chinese clones?
01:01 AM drdoc: taloot: I'd agree
01:01 AM Wolf__: the bob? not really much
01:01 AM drdoc: blue board vs green?
01:01 AM drdoc: :-)
01:02 AM drdoc: taloot: I got a couple of uSec better tests switching from 800MHz DDR2 to 533MHz
01:02 AM drdoc: no idea why, except a much more reliable brand of RAM
01:23 AM Wolf__: yeah, thats going to require much dicking with
01:26 AM taloot: also voltage and dual channel effect too
01:32 AM taloot: dual channel im getting 2.0 singel stick 4.5
01:32 AM Wolf__: https://imgur.com/a/HHC5c1V I’m not even sure if there is settings for the dual channel stuff
01:32 AM drdoc: Wolf__: 2 sticks in it?
01:32 AM Wolf__: yeah
01:32 AM drdoc: that's what determines dual vs single channel
01:32 AM Wolf__: 4gb of DDR3-1333
01:32 AM taloot: try to adjust the voltage and let us know
01:32 AM Wolf__: I did, tried 1.5 and 1.35
01:32 AM Wolf__: still sucked
01:34 AM taloot: https://www.asrock.com/mb/Intel/Q1900-ITX/#BIOS
01:34 AM Wolf__: really thats the one box i’m not worried too much about because its not doing stepgen, its running a 7i96
01:34 AM taloot: update ur bios
01:34 AM taloot: 1.7 urs. online 2.0
01:35 AM Wolf__: lmao, that might help
01:36 AM taloot: you can modify the bios with a special tool
01:36 AM taloot: it can show all hidden options
01:37 AM taloot: https://www.bios-mods.com/forum/Thread-GUIDE-How-to-modify-AMI-MSI-BIOS-to-unlock-full-features-UEFI-Aptio4
01:37 AM taloot: but u have to flash with spi programmer
01:38 AM drdoc: hurray for eagle files!
01:40 AM taloot: whats the latest mesa products
01:40 AM Wolf__: hmm, 1st issue with that bios stuff, “boot to windows”
01:40 AM drdoc: lol
01:41 AM taloot: no u ccan do it with the bios it self
01:41 AM taloot: enter the bios
01:41 AM taloot: go for tools
01:41 AM taloot: then instant flash
01:41 AM taloot: yes should be fat32 disk format
01:41 AM Wolf__: no I mean the bios hack
01:42 AM taloot: aha... yeah u need windows pc
01:42 AM taloot: but i can unlock all options to you
01:42 AM taloot: and you flash it
01:42 AM taloot: but the menu will be very long
01:43 AM Wolf__: oh, I can hack the bios before uploading it
01:43 AM taloot: yes but u need clip programmer
01:43 AM taloot: u have?
01:44 AM Wolf__: nope
01:44 AM taloot: then just update ur bios
01:44 AM taloot: to latest version
01:47 AM Wolf__: kinda stupid that you cant edit the instant flash bios file
01:48 AM taloot: what kind of edit
01:48 AM Wolf__: hack the options and whatnot
01:48 AM taloot: the security thing you mean
01:49 AM taloot: its for super user
01:54 AM taloot: not needed by 99.99% of there clients
02:07 AM drdoc: Wolf__: I'm liking this:
02:07 AM drdoc: https://smile.amazon.com/dp/B07PP6T84D
02:07 AM Deejay: moin
02:07 AM drdoc: mostly because it's easier to get an RMA on Amazon than on Ebay :-)
02:07 AM drdoc: hey Deejay
02:11 AM Wolf__: lol true
02:12 AM Wolf__: bios updated, 5x glxgears and I’m seeing 30880ns jitter
02:13 AM Wolf__: 117517 on base
02:15 AM Wolf__: and I dont think I set isocpus on that box yet
02:22 AM * drdoc borrows t4nk-freenode's phrase
02:22 AM drdoc: that pig'll get washed a lot quicker if I just buy the damn board
02:23 AM drdoc: I could be crashing the gantry Monday if I buy that Amazon BOB
02:23 AM Wolf__: lol
02:23 AM drdoc: but right now, it's sleepy-time
02:23 AM drdoc: later, gents
03:14 AM XXCoder: interesting! https://hackaday.com/2019/09/28/arduino-wire-bender-probably-wont-kill-all-humans/
06:20 AM Tom_L: morning
06:24 AM jthornton: morning
06:24 AM Tom_L: rain movin in
06:25 AM jthornton: we're not supposed to get it till tomorrow
06:28 AM XXCoder: snow moving in here
06:28 AM jthornton: I hope it holds off long enough to get home
06:28 AM XXCoder: nah kidding, but sure is cold here
06:28 AM Tom_L: or at least alot of noise
06:37 AM jthornton: it's only 50f there, that's not cold
06:39 AM XXCoder: heh true though temperate drop was fast
06:39 AM XXCoder: during week we had 37f in some areas where i live at at night
06:39 AM XXCoder: and previous week it was in 50s night
06:46 AM XXCoder: jt it snowed in some areas, and it havent happened for almost 100 years. lol
06:47 AM jthornton: wow
06:47 AM XXCoder: *that early*
06:47 AM XXCoder: I made it sound like it literally never snowed for 100 years
06:53 AM XXCoder: man headache and dizzy sucks lol
07:03 AM jthornton: yea
10:15 AM _unreal_: heh its like 80f outside here :)
11:20 AM gregcnc: I want a wire bender, but would need to be more capable than that
11:30 AM t4nk-freenode: darnit... I decided I should probably really use some gears between the dc motors and the rods.. but now I've 'misplaced' some of the little driving belts when I dismantled the printers... it's gonna make it hard to put something together :|
11:31 AM _unreal_: gears add a lot of backlash
11:31 AM _unreal_: belts are a better choice in general
11:31 AM t4nk-freenode: so gotta go over my entire pile of junk later tonight hoping to find them
11:32 AM _unreal_: t4nk-freenode, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QZydBdrzgvEeSeUNslRsTQ7cvXA6og3l
11:32 AM _unreal_: and my vac plate https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QbNDFX0OICUy7FteExP7jd0FW6Z8xEst
11:33 AM t4nk-freenode: yehyeh, good for you
11:34 AM _unreal_: I have a lot of belts and cogs problem is most of them are too long or the cog is on a motor that is to small etc..... :/
11:35 AM _unreal_: most of that is from stuff I took apart years ago
11:36 AM _unreal_: t4nk-freenode, just remember something. I have gotten a lot of GOOD parts from the old electric typewriters
11:37 AM _unreal_: http://imgs.inkfrog.com/pix/UncleDearest/Smith_Corona_4000DS_Word_Processor_Electric_Typewriter.jpg
11:37 AM _unreal_: I have gotten really good parts out of typwriters like this.
11:39 AM _unreal_: depending on the typing system. they typically have 2 big stepper motors. easy to use stepper motor drivers. and the print head often has a dozen mosfet transistors
11:39 AM _unreal_: and the rails are typically huge and the same sizes
12:24 PM _unreal_: do any of you guys know of any online open source multi axis Z plans?
12:39 PM taloot: hello
12:49 PM _unreal_: sup
02:04 PM _unreal_: https://www.solodiscountbuy.com/products/last-2-day-70-off-small-diy-polishing-machine?fbclid=IwAR0NzRE1sLkTyJ22QuAHb-oIXp9UGc6uxiqDylekhEuuDp2qipFR6bWDNjo
02:06 PM _unreal_: I just ordered one of these
02:12 PM _unreal_: no one is around :(
02:12 PM _unreal_: sigh
03:04 PM jym: $20 ?!
03:04 PM jym: shipping $90
03:04 PM jym: lol
03:06 PM jym: _unreal_: how much was shipping?
03:23 PM Wolf__: $20 is just belts looks like
03:24 PM Wolf__: I would have just bought a 1”x30” benchtop unit
03:28 PM Wolf__: I love the lack of belt size listed on that toy 12v grinder/sander
03:31 PM jym: Wolf__: from $79???
03:32 PM Wolf__: yeah, oh wait, does say 330x30
03:33 PM Wolf__: polishing machine says $79 marked down from $179 lol
03:33 PM jym: and now $20
03:33 PM jym: I'm still curious as to the shipping costs
03:34 PM Wolf__: you have to pick which item under “TYPE” on that page...
03:38 PM Wolf__: 10 belts = $20, the pos toy grinder = $79, when I did the PayPal cart it didn’t show shipping charge
03:39 PM Wolf__: that thing looks like total junk
03:40 PM jym: Oh that's a rip... they make it look like $20.... bastards
03:41 PM Wolf__: 24v dc motor… that thing wont do much, I think thats the same size belt that my band-file uses and it has the same motor as a 4” angle grinder
03:41 PM jym: This 1x30 isn't bad https://www.harborfreight.com/power-tools/grinders-sanders/stationary-belt-disc-sanders/1-in-x-30-in-belt-sander-61728.html
03:42 PM jym: Another blackout scheduled for tonight
03:45 PM Wolf__: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Metalworking/Grinders/6101-6 belt is longer on this thing lol
03:47 PM jym: Hmmm, I gotta see if I have oil for the generator
03:49 PM jdh: did the wind stop blowing?
03:52 PM jym: Hasn't eve started yet, but they are being super cautious
03:53 PM jym: They even setup "cooling stations" so theat people without power can come and cool off from the heat.
03:54 PM jym: that*
03:55 PM jym: oh, and charge their phones
03:55 PM Wolf__: weird
03:55 PM Wolf__: 66f here lol
03:56 PM jym: Well, the fire killed 98 people, so they aren't taking any risks I guess
03:56 PM jdh: geez
03:57 PM jym: and they WERE found at fault.
03:58 PM jym: I just wish I could send em a bill for generator and fuel
04:00 PM jym: Cause I could use it to make a doghouse, this thing give me a headach after 18 hours
04:01 PM Wolf__: yeah, are loud and annoying
04:03 PM Wolf__: I need to overhaul the genset that is at my mom’s house at some point
04:09 PM jym: overhaul how?
04:17 PM Deejay: gn8
04:50 PM Wolf__: need to pull and clean carb, if its not totally screwed up
04:55 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest81715
05:00 PM jym: ah
08:06 PM t4nk-freenode: heh, found at least one tiny belt back... think I should now be able to fit together 3 'gears', with 3 rotary encoder disks
08:07 PM t4nk-freenode: I'll try to setup one of em as a test, and compare that to a motor fixed directly to the shaft
08:17 PM drdoc: urgh
08:18 PM drdoc: hey, anybody here need a fancy keyboard before I list it on Ebay?
08:19 PM t4nk-freenode: wireless?
08:25 PM drdoc: no
08:25 PM drdoc: Ducky One TKL
08:25 PM drdoc: Cherry MX "white" switches, backlit keys
08:28 PM jthornton: evening
08:29 PM drdoc: hola
08:31 PM drdoc: this never ends
08:32 PM drdoc: 1) get the router running: check
08:32 PM drdoc: 1a) realize that the Arduino CNC shield just isn't gonna get it: check
08:32 PM drdoc: 2) Spend a week puting together a machine to run LinuxCNC: check
08:33 PM skunkworks: ugh.. why arduino....
08:33 PM drdoc: 3) Spend a few more days figuring out latency & realtime
08:33 PM drdoc: check
08:33 PM drdoc: 4) Order a parallel port BoB: check
08:34 PM drdoc: 5) Decide I really *neeeed* to replace the NEMA 17 motors with NEMA 23....
08:34 PM drdoc: this never ends
08:35 PM drdoc: skunkworks: I've been running a 3d printer on an arduino for a couple of years, with no issues
08:35 PM drdoc: I figured that would translate
08:36 PM drdoc: now I've got a little MCU board to use for temp/humidity tracking in the printer enclosure
08:36 PM drdoc: :-)
08:36 PM skunkworks: drdoc: using grbl?
08:49 PM _unreal_: jym, shipping was $6
08:53 PM jym: _unreal_: ah
08:53 PM jym: _unreal_: I thought it was $20 for the sander, not just the belts.
08:54 PM _unreal_: What are you talking about
08:54 PM jym: _unreal_: how many things did you order today?
08:54 PM _unreal_: its $20 for everything and 4.99 or 6.99 shipping
08:54 PM jym: It's $80 for the sander
08:54 PM _unreal_: that kit includes the machine and 10 belts
08:54 PM _unreal_: no cost me $20
08:55 PM _unreal_: look at "package includes" https://www.solodiscountbuy.com/products/last-2-day-70-off-small-diy-polishing-machine?fbclid=IwAR0NzRE1sLkTyJ22QuAHb-oIXp9UGc6uxiqDylekhEuuDp2qipFR6bWDNjo
08:55 PM jym: Did you click on "polishing machine"?
08:56 PM _unreal_: OH SHI
08:57 PM jym: _unreal_: Yeah, Wolf__ caught it for me too
08:58 PM XXCoder: uh
08:58 PM XXCoder: is it really worth $70
08:58 PM XXCoder: oh!
08:58 PM jym: _unreal_: It's pretty deceptive
08:58 PM XXCoder: $20
08:58 PM XXCoder: damn might be worth it
08:58 PM jym: XXCoder: Click on "polishing machine"
08:59 PM XXCoder: already did yeah
08:59 PM _unreal_: brb checking din
08:59 PM jym: I didn't, I thought it was $20 for the machine, bastards
08:59 PM XXCoder: 10 belts and machine almost $100 in cart
09:00 PM XXCoder: fakeout jeez
09:00 PM jym: Yeah, completely
09:01 PM XXCoder: damn too bad
09:01 PM XXCoder: it'd be amazing at $20
09:01 PM _unreal_: I'm tempted to get the machine
09:01 PM jthornton: tiny little thing...
09:02 PM _unreal_: but I could get the samn damn thing at harbor freight 2x the size
09:02 PM jthornton: dropped my phone and it got run over by a Spyder, it still works but no screen...
09:02 PM XXCoder: jt swucks :(
09:02 PM jthornton: I think I can get it replaced...
09:03 PM jthornton: hmm I may still have the other S7...
09:04 PM jthornton: PACKAGE INCLUDE:
09:04 PM jthornton: 1 x Small DIY Polishing Machine.
09:04 PM jthornton: 1 x 7 speed regulating power supply.
09:04 PM jthornton: OR 10 x Matching strip.
09:04 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33035347662.html hand type pretty cheap
09:05 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000103771425.html similiar to that site, but cheaper
09:05 PM XXCoder: $40 usd
09:06 PM XXCoder: AND includes 10 belts
09:07 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/33005713623.html
09:07 PM XXCoder: looks same as that website. $30 usd
09:07 PM XXCoder: also includes 10 belts.
09:07 PM XXCoder: so thats $100 worth for $30
09:08 PM XXCoder: _unreal_: that ones way cheaoer
09:09 PM _unreal_: likely the same company as well
09:09 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000110593007.html same thing but $27
09:10 PM _unreal_: sigh
09:10 PM _unreal_: just put a new HD in that desktop and reloading windows
09:10 PM _unreal_: if it fucks up again. there is something worng with the PC
09:20 PM Tom_L: maybe it's beggin for a copy of linux?
09:20 PM XXCoder: its linuxcnc pc of his
09:20 PM XXCoder: so probably not
09:20 PM _unreal_: My desktop computer is a win/linux but mainly a windows system for cad work and gaming
09:29 PM _unreal_: sigh.... reinsalling everything so annoying
09:30 PM XXCoder: lol this is pretty cool https://www.aliexpress.com/item/32961321024.html
09:30 PM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oewzzB54MZk
09:31 PM XXCoder: honing for chisel its simple metal thing, uses bearings for wheelks
09:32 PM XXCoder: so amazing simple lol
09:33 PM skunkworks: _unreal_: ^
09:34 PM _unreal_: I have a tool kind of like that
09:34 PM _unreal_: antique
09:34 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000205005744.html perfect demo thing
09:34 PM XXCoder: tiny
09:34 PM XXCoder: i would just insert some rod
09:36 PM XXCoder: also ordered that mini belt thing
09:36 PM XXCoder: 2 of em together for half price of that website belt sander lol
09:45 PM _unreal_: hum
09:45 PM _unreal_: OMG. finish installing
09:47 PM jym: pump https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4000106301422.html
09:47 PM XXCoder: drill pump. interesting
09:47 PM _unreal_: :p standard drill pump
09:47 PM _unreal_: you can get one of those for $4 at HF
09:48 PM jym: Oh, nevermind, thought it was electric
09:51 PM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_PVqVps2uMA
10:02 PM jym: skunkworks: I'm confused.... I see stepper motors on the y-axis, didn't I ?
10:04 PM jym: skunkworks: Then I hear you talk about servo
10:06 PM skunkworks: linuxcnc calls it a servo loop.. (weather it be stepper or servos)
10:06 PM skunkworks: interally linuxcnc sees them both the same
10:09 PM skunkworks: mostly
10:45 PM _unreal_: I have some small stepper motors that have encoders on them
10:45 PM _unreal_: OMG wtf NVIDIA DRIVER 570MB
10:46 PM XXCoder: sometimes I suspect its rootkit hidden as driver heh
10:46 PM _unreal_: I mean granted I have a geforce 960. its not the latest but its NOOOOo slouch
10:46 PM XXCoder: so big./
10:46 PM XXCoder: hell it probably can hide 100 rootkits
10:50 PM _unreal_: god
10:50 PM _unreal_: back in the late 90's or early 2k's I remember some drivers that came out for what ever nvida card I was using at the time
10:50 PM _unreal_: and it went from ok to OMG.... preformance
10:51 PM _unreal_: then more updates came out and the preformance boost was lost
10:51 PM _unreal_: still nothing tops the old voodoo's
10:51 PM _unreal_: I can remember frame rates SMOOTH as silk
10:52 PM _unreal_: few games running the voodoo's EVER slowed down
10:55 PM XXCoder: but same time if you had voodoo now you'd replace ut
10:56 PM XXCoder: voodoo was going way faster than gaming thats why it was so powerful
10:56 PM XXCoder: and insane
10:56 PM XXCoder: there was prototype that had wall plug for voodoo card
10:57 PM XXCoder: last card on sale had molex connectors for more power
10:58 PM _unreal_: still mad at my self to this day. I got a voodoo6 card and I sold it on ebay
10:58 PM _unreal_: ;(
11:00 PM drdoc: skunkworks: no, no GRBL. Somebody's Arduino code to drive temp & humidity sensors & output to an i2c screen
11:50 PM _unreal_: I really cant wait till my memory upgrade gets here. not going to see it for a few weeks though :(
11:50 PM _unreal_: ordered 8gb to upgrade my core 2 quad from 4 to 8gb
11:51 PM XXCoder: nice
11:51 PM XXCoder: this pc has 16 gb ram lol I build systems to last 10 years
11:52 PM _unreal_: hell this laptop has been running great for years
11:52 PM _unreal_: thogh I dont use the onboard monitor but once in a great while
11:52 PM _unreal_: I use an external
11:53 PM _unreal_: its got a p6100 2ghz what ever that is for intel?
11:53 PM _unreal_: and 8gb ram
11:53 PM _unreal_: but crapy intel gpu