Sep 14 2019
12:00 AM _unreal_: I've got some screwy stuff going on here
12:04 AM _unreal_: so this starboard must be fucked up some how?
12:04 AM _unreal_: it broke 3 bits on me cutting dirt train slow
12:04 AM _unreal_: its like its hard as a rock
12:04 AM _unreal_: also my Cad files are a MILE off?
12:04 AM _unreal_: I made a butter fly like connection. 3d milled one 2d milled the other and they are not even close
12:04 AM _unreal_: to fitting each other
12:04 AM _unreal_: dont know why
12:44 AM _unreal_: just ordered a bunch of straight 1/8th and spiral upcut single flute bits
12:44 AM _unreal_: I WILL win this milling battle
12:45 AM _unreal_: really suprised that I had such much trouble
12:50 AM _unreal_: I've cut other stuff and NOT had issues same feeds etc.....'
12:50 AM _unreal_: so I dont know if the material I was milling was just screwy? or what
12:50 AM _unreal_: oh well bed time
02:39 AM Deejay: moin
04:38 AM t4nk-freenode: .
05:01 AM XXCoder: https://www.archaeology-world.com/roman-senate-building-unearthed-in-egypt/
05:01 AM XXCoder: such an interesting chair design
05:11 AM Tom_L: morning
05:11 AM XXCoder: hey tom
07:01 AM jthornton: morning
07:02 AM XXCoder: yo
07:17 AM jthornton: get your printer back together?
07:19 AM XXCoder: havent worked on it yet. tomorrow likely
07:19 AM XXCoder: today we worked on downstairs restroom, as well as went to ford for recall repair that was delayed toll next week
07:19 AM XXCoder: turns out it wasnt one recall fix which would be fairly quick, but 3
07:19 AM XXCoder: all day fix
07:20 AM jthornton: wow big recall
07:21 AM XXCoder: one of em is gas vacuum having issue
07:21 AM XXCoder: other is sometimes door close but dont lock
07:21 AM XXCoder: not locked but latch fails to close, meaning it can open during driving.
07:21 AM XXCoder: mine havent had that issue but it would come up later with more mileage
07:21 AM jthornton: that's not good
07:22 AM XXCoder: third is software update, its not detecting tranmission stuff correctly, so if it develops issue, it wont detect it
07:22 AM XXCoder: which ruins transmission
07:28 AM jthornton: which model do you have?
07:28 AM XXCoder: ford focus 2012
07:48 AM _unreal_: XXCoder, did you buy that focus in 2013?
07:49 AM XXCoder: nah in 2016
07:49 AM XXCoder: why?
07:49 AM * _unreal_ palm to face 13... lucky 13
07:50 AM XXCoder: to me 13 is one less than 14 and one more than 12
09:48 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: morning tom!
09:49 AM Lcvette: are you running a wired pendant/mpg?
09:50 AM Lcvette: was wondering if the hal gurus could have a look at this and let me know if it works with the wiring diagram
09:50 AM * Lcvette uploaded an image: acad_DBhW1XK9J8.png (66KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/PLKcbDklxseFQqphfbsYlYGZ >
09:51 AM * Lcvette sent a long message: < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/YfvKkMLikuSGIWZNmoqoVrnp >
10:25 AM _unreal_: I dont get why ESTLcam screwed up my 3d milling on one of the parts so bad?
10:25 AM _unreal_: over sized it baddly
10:27 AM Loetmichel: i dont know estlcam... but maybe you forgot the smooting path after the roughing?
11:15 AM Tom_L: Lcvette yes
11:47 AM Tom_L: hal looks reasonable
11:50 AM Tom_L: if you're using hostmot2 encoder you may want some parameters on it
11:50 AM Tom_L: setp hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.00.counter-mode 1
11:50 AM Tom_L: setp hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.00.filter 1
11:50 AM Tom_L: setp hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.00.index-invert 0
11:50 AM Tom_L: setp hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.00.index-mask 0
11:50 AM Tom_L: setp hm2_[HOSTMOT2](BOARD).0.encoder.00.index-mask-invert 0
11:50 AM Tom_L: those are mine
01:29 PM andypugh: _unreal_ Fusion360 always defaults to “radial stock to leave” as on, and about 0.5mm. Maybe your CAM did the same. (this is an elaboration on what Loetmichel already said)
01:34 PM _unreal_: I didnt forget anything that I can tell. for starters estl cam WONT let me adjust the TOOL diam..
01:35 PM _unreal_: I need 3.175MM and it rounds it to 3.180
01:35 PM _unreal_: very annoying
01:39 PM Loetmichel: ah, btw: didnt someone lately wanted to know how i bend my PSU enclosures? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PRFFRJ3iQRM
01:46 PM _unreal_: Loetmichel, should have done a "fake" ouch like you got your self with the drill ;)
01:47 PM Loetmichel: _unreal_: happens often enough for real that i dont have t fake it ;)
01:51 PM _unreal_: sucks I have NO more end mill bits right now
01:51 PM _unreal_: something is REALLY funky with this second hand starboard I have
01:52 PM _unreal_: its like its super hard?
01:52 PM _unreal_: milled ok till I hit a certain point and it just snapped my bits.
01:52 PM _unreal_: its kind of yellow ish on the inside
01:52 PM _unreal_: I mean I even tried milling extra slow and still snapped my bits.
01:53 PM _unreal_: waiting for tomorrow to get my replacements :(
01:54 PM XXCoder: work hardened?
02:17 PM jdh: do polymers work harden?
02:19 PM Loetmichel: whats starboard?
02:20 PM _unreal_: an HDPE
02:20 PM _unreal_: Loetmichel, google
02:20 PM _unreal_: its like the plastic version of aluminum
02:20 PM XXCoder: weird
02:20 PM _unreal_: VERY strong. chem. resistant
02:20 PM jdh: cuts like butter
02:20 PM _unreal_: uv resist.
02:21 PM Loetmichel: ah, PE foam board
02:21 PM Loetmichel: that should mill like air pretty much
02:21 PM _unreal_: its not a foamboard
02:21 PM jdh: with a single flute upcut mill
02:21 PM jdh: cuts better than foamboard
02:21 PM _unreal_: its just slightly less dense then water
02:22 PM _unreal_: jdh, thats what I just ordered
02:22 PM _unreal_: those and two flute straight all 1/8th
02:23 PM jdh: real king starboard cuts great. I have several other types of marine plastics that cut like crap
02:23 PM _unreal_: as of a few days ago I had 3 flute 1/8th bits
02:23 PM _unreal_: jdh, and lasts for ever
02:23 PM jdh: chips too snmall with 3 flute. they get stuck and melt
02:23 PM _unreal_: jdh, thats what I'm mkaing my daughters mini cnc out of
02:23 PM _unreal_: I have not had that issue
02:24 PM _unreal_: jdh, I have some scrap stuff that broke my end mills
02:24 PM _unreal_: kind of lightly yellow on the inside
02:24 PM _unreal_: hard as hell
02:24 PM _unreal_: the utside is white no idea why? my mills snapped in the middle
02:25 PM _unreal_: ARGG...
02:25 PM jdh: the fake stuff I have in black cuts better with 2 flute. kinda crumbly chips instead of longer starboard onea
02:25 PM _unreal_: I may go to harbor freight to see if I can get an end mill bit or 2
02:26 PM _unreal_: I just need a 1/8th to finish this stupid project
02:26 PM _unreal_: I need a DEEP bit I should say to finish this project
02:26 PM jdh: I have an old router made of PE.
02:27 PM XXCoder: you can weld starboard apparently.
02:27 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e9roVwJHMgE
02:27 PM _unreal_: I have plenty of 1/8 but they are 1/4" shank and the flute is 3/4" or less and I need to mill 1"
02:27 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, yes with a special heat gun and starboard rod
02:28 PM _unreal_: if you put a nice chamfer in the maiting joint
02:28 PM _unreal_: its strong like hell
02:28 PM XXCoder: he made a cabiet with it
02:31 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM1da1TceWc
02:32 PM andypugh: If you get sick of working with starboard a bottle of port will cheer you up.
02:32 PM XXCoder: no thanks lol already sick, and never drink alchcol
02:33 PM * _unreal_ loves his alcohol now and then
02:35 PM _unreal_: Mf'ers just took out the special thrust bearings I got for my daughters cnc.. the ID is correct bbut the OD is not.. doesnt matter but I designed my part for a different size
02:35 PM _unreal_: !@#!@#@
02:35 PM _unreal_: well I guess thats comming off the table
02:35 PM XXCoder: bleh
02:35 PM _unreal_: as far as part I'm working on
02:35 PM _unreal_: trust bearing
02:36 PM _unreal_: more or less 2 washers and a needel bearing middle. 3 parts
02:36 PM _unreal_: VERY good thrust handeling
02:37 PM _unreal_: I add a second washer so the nut doesnt do wierd shit. and I can tighten it down nicely
02:37 PM _unreal_: prone to dust but thats why I'm putting it into a recess
02:52 PM andypugh: Seen in another IRC channel: https://i.imgur.com/LvXR8OF.jpg
03:05 PM _unreal_: ?
03:05 PM _unreal_: ok just started milling the other arm
03:05 PM _unreal_: with luck nothing bad will happen
03:05 PM XXCoder: "how to fake an affair"
03:07 PM _unreal_: LOL whats that an affair with abstinence
03:07 PM _unreal_: LOL
03:07 PM XXCoder: read the bylines in that picture. so many funny
03:37 PM Tom_L: andypugh, any interesting projects lately?
04:19 PM Deejay: gn8
04:34 PM jthornton: night
05:08 PM _unreal_: already
05:08 PM _unreal_: its only 6pm here ;)
05:09 PM Lcvette: Tom_L: I'm using the encoder fuel inputs
05:09 PM _unreal_: encoder fuel inputs?
05:09 PM _unreal_: random? heh
05:10 PM Lcvette: Field*
05:10 PM Lcvette: Auto correct..lol
05:13 PM _unreal_: I was kind ahhh gaanaaa say WHAT THE HELL ARE YOU SMOKING
05:38 PM _unreal_: yawn
05:38 PM _unreal_: lol this is my 5th attempt to mill this stupid @$#%#@%#4 arm for this machine
05:38 PM _unreal_: everything else is done I just cant seen to mill this ONE arm
05:38 PM _unreal_: its crazy
06:29 PM jthornton: not as crazy as trying to add a contact us button in the footer of wordpress storefront theme...
06:40 PM _unreal_: I'll give you that one
06:41 PM _unreal_: I have had to fight that bull
06:41 PM _unreal_: and its a mean one
06:48 PM jthornton: yea adding a contact me button should be dead simple...
07:03 PM _unreal_: It may not be pretty but like hell I cant use
07:03 PM _unreal_: it
07:03 PM _unreal_: GOOD LORD I cant wait to get my milling bits tomorrow
07:03 PM _unreal_: will be interesting to see if they make any difference or not?
07:03 PM jthornton: photo?
07:04 PM _unreal_: pervv
07:04 PM _unreal_: ;)
07:04 PM jthornton: lol
07:04 PM _unreal_: you just want to see my wears
07:04 PM _unreal_: give me a few
07:04 PM jthornton: out of town and bored
07:05 PM _unreal_: uploading
07:05 PM _unreal_: will take a few
07:05 PM jthornton: k
07:17 PM Tom_L: made a list of endmills i had on hand and ones i wanted to get so i went to my local guy and found out why i didn't have any
07:17 PM Tom_L: he didn't either :(
07:19 PM Tom_L: nothing pressing i needed em for so no special order, i'll just wait it out probably
07:19 PM XXCoder: drat nothing like tooling delay
07:19 PM Tom_L: he's a small shop and getting close to retirement so doesn't stock everything in sight
07:24 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, they got the new mill up and goin yet?
07:24 PM XXCoder: it wont be running for a month or maybe more
07:24 PM XXCoder: swiss lathe, much smaller one, took 2 months to get all tuned in to run
07:25 PM XXCoder: that monster have 10 bolts in bottom for stands, it all have to be level to each other, etc
07:25 PM XXCoder: then table etc need to be tuned with no twist, etc
07:25 PM Tom_L: yeah i kno
07:25 PM Tom_L: w
07:26 PM Tom_L: is their rep setting it up?
07:26 PM XXCoder: not sure. looks like theres contractors not sure if from machine company or not
07:26 PM XXCoder: our guy are also working on it
07:26 PM XXCoder: its definitely used, but good condition
07:27 PM Tom_L: hmm i thought it was new
07:27 PM XXCoder: or maybe they spray protective coating? didnt see any gouges etc?
07:27 PM * t4nk-freenode slaps XXCoder around quite heftily with an oversized trout
07:27 PM t4nk-freenode: I found the problem!
07:27 PM t4nk-freenode: turns out.. there was no problem :|
07:28 PM Tom_L: operator error?
07:28 PM _unreal_: good lord that took for ever
07:28 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1NMDZD1AhnIh9qN-_XjH8rDLjb4nw0W1O
07:28 PM _unreal_: jthornton, there it is
07:28 PM Tom_L: cute
07:28 PM _unreal_: You can see which side I've had truble with
07:28 PM jthornton: what material is that?
07:28 PM _unreal_: starboard
07:28 PM Tom_L: hdpe
07:29 PM _unreal_: what he said
07:29 PM XXCoder: I need to buy samples of that to check how well it works :)
07:29 PM XXCoder: found one site 2x2" for 2 dollars
07:29 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, try ebay
07:29 PM _unreal_: OR
07:29 PM XXCoder: yea
07:29 PM _unreal_: home depot/lowes
07:29 PM Tom_L: i get it from the scrap bin of the local plastic place
07:30 PM Tom_L: when i need some which isn't that often
07:30 PM XXCoder: dang
07:30 PM XXCoder: seems everyone lives by industry except me lol
07:30 PM _unreal_: But when you need it it is the DUCK tape of millable material
07:30 PM t4nk-freenode: ehm, yes Tom_L ... operator error.. 1.5 days gone ;)
07:30 PM Tom_L: move?
07:31 PM _unreal_: t4nk-freenode, I'd never call you a dumb ass but what did ya do wrong stupid?
07:31 PM _unreal_: heh
07:31 PM XXCoder: Tom_L: I doubt I will run that big machine lol its for special pipes
07:32 PM Tom_L: ahh
07:32 PM XXCoder: and pretty sure new huge alum block jobs we just got
07:33 PM XXCoder: anyway unreal thats definitely cool cant wait to see it running.
07:33 PM XXCoder: jthornton: so hows your portable linuxcnc box with screen and control project going? ;)
07:34 PM jthornton: the rpi4?
07:34 PM XXCoder: yeah lol (mainly kidding about that box)
07:34 PM jthornton: hope to get the ender 3 sorted out and print some stuff tomorrow when I get home
07:34 PM XXCoder: I wish someone would make em though
07:35 PM jthornton: yea that would be neat
07:36 PM Tom_L: what's that? a rpi 4 enclosure?
07:36 PM XXCoder: just screen, switches keyboard on front with screen
07:36 PM XXCoder: inside it theres space for bunch of stuff, like rsp4 or pc or psus for those stuff
07:37 PM XXCoder: basically a linuxcnc kit box
07:37 PM XXCoder: one specifically for rspi4
07:37 PM XXCoder: https://www.haascnc.com/content/dam/haascnc/productivity/control/assets/4x3/ControlRender_4x3.jpg/jcr:content/renditions/original.original/image.jpg
07:37 PM XXCoder: sorta like that thing
07:38 PM XXCoder: ohh lights too. but real red/yellow/green one
07:38 PM jthornton: wow that would be expensive to make
07:39 PM XXCoder: yeah not that many controls needed I think
07:39 PM XXCoder: more plain, some switches toogles, some knobs, one encoder
07:40 PM jthornton: the problem is everyone would want something different
07:41 PM XXCoder: yeah thats why it would have to be a kit
07:41 PM XXCoder: maybe have front plates that are blank by default
07:41 PM XXCoder: and someone can buy say encode panel, rapid/feed knob controls etc and install em
09:27 PM _unreal_: I cant wait till these show up tomorrow
09:29 PM XXCoder: :0
09:29 PM XXCoder: :)
09:30 PM Tom_L: XXCoder, the vo-tech here has a whole room full of those simulators :)
09:30 PM XXCoder: simulator for cnc?
09:30 PM Tom_L: the haas control
09:31 PM XXCoder: ahh ok
09:31 PM XXCoder: i was thinking some nice rpsi4 system for home cnc users
09:31 PM XXCoder: hobbyist etc
09:31 PM XXCoder: or in least those who want to go slightly past homebrew but small machines
09:32 PM Tom_L: would never happen
09:32 PM XXCoder: sure can happen
09:32 PM Tom_L: everybody has their own idea on what they want
09:32 PM XXCoder: im not talking about machine but control boxes
09:32 PM XXCoder: i can envision some customizable
09:33 PM Tom_L: we'll get Loetmichel to build the boxes
09:33 PM Tom_L: he seems to like that
09:33 PM XXCoder: looks like yeah
09:34 PM _unreal_: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B078S3S956/ref=ppx_yo_dt_b_asin_title_o00_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
09:34 PM _unreal_: would likely help if I posted the link wouldnt it
09:34 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipNjUL9VJW4BIh58ZOHM6jOWS10l43lfzL_nr7FMD-YXm_o6hG63BfTN2Rv6ch6C_Q?key=OVV0UTBXUmF0NXNSR2NKVzdoaFhxQzVTbDI5V3JB
09:34 PM XXCoder: not bad
09:35 PM XXCoder: ya i remember those. very nice
09:35 PM _unreal_: I designed that shell for RPI like devices
09:35 PM _unreal_: the face I think can support upto a 10" lcd
09:35 PM _unreal_: I'd have to messure it for sure
09:36 PM _unreal_: but XXCoder if your $$ interested I can always bang out an other shell I have the molds
09:36 PM _unreal_: VE resin or epoxy
09:36 PM XXCoder: possibly but not for while. I have no place to setup machine
09:36 PM _unreal_: you have to admit nice design though
09:37 PM XXCoder: yeah
09:38 PM _unreal_: the hardest part of that build after making the molds is getting the internal alignment parts installed
09:38 PM _unreal_: after poping and trimming the parts
09:38 PM _unreal_: after that its just cutting holes as/where needed
09:39 PM XXCoder: weird game https://littlealchemy2.com/ lol one of combinations is rock and snow = snowball.. ermm thats pretty nasty trick...
09:39 PM XXCoder: awesome :D im not sure what I want in yerms of controls yet
09:40 PM Tom_L: not as bad as the guy that built his snowman over a tree stump. some jerk was going around with his pickup knocking them over until he hit that one
09:42 PM XXCoder: geez
09:42 PM XXCoder: i dont know why some people think its fine to do that
09:44 PM Tom_L: that one learned his lesson
09:46 PM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2fxGC_VM6yE
09:47 PM XXCoder: lol ya I remember that videop
09:47 PM XXCoder: some people dont learn though
09:48 PM XXCoder: my coworker got in nasty car accient 3 times so far
09:48 PM XXCoder: 3 in 4 years
09:48 PM Tom_L: i'd hate to be paying his insurance
09:49 PM XXCoder: yeah
09:49 PM Tom_L: paying for kids is bad enough
10:11 PM XXCoder: wire + "animal" - snake lol
10:11 PM XXCoder: that games funny
10:11 PM XXCoder: funny discriptions too
10:15 PM XXCoder: bird + barn = chicken. "apparently everything tastes like it"