#linuxcnc Logs

Sep 05 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:51 AM Deejay: moin
01:56 AM Loetmichel: moin digga! :-)
01:56 AM Deejay: lol
03:23 AM Loetmichel: hihi, capybaras are really confident, arent they? -> https://www.isnichwahr.de/i289466-selbstbewusst.html
03:24 AM XXCoder: lol thats cool
05:12 AM Tom_L: mornnig
05:12 AM XXCoder: yo
06:50 AM pink_vampire: hi XXCoder
06:51 AM XXCoder: hey :)
08:00 AM CNC_Brian: !s Mountain.Men.S08
08:00 AM gregcnc: those guys should all be rich by now
08:05 AM jthornton: mornimg
08:05 AM XXCoder: yo
08:05 AM XXCoder: looks like first sub-70 this monday lol 62f
08:06 AM jthornton: nice
08:07 AM XXCoder: tomorrow is last 80f looks like? unless it spikes again but not very likely
08:08 AM jthornton: we are going to Horn Lake MS today
08:09 AM jthornton: we are still high 80's to low 90's at home for the next 5 days
08:09 AM XXCoder: this year we had "classic summer" here
08:10 AM XXCoder: zero day at 90f or above
08:10 AM XXCoder: i cant remember last time that happened
08:32 AM miss0r2: syyl!
08:37 AM syyl: hey miss0r2
11:16 AM Loetmichel: hrhr.... just stood in a little traffic jam on an exit ramp and started counting cars on the highway driving by: 90 VW, 70 Mercs, BMW and Audi 50 each, about 20 renaults, 15 fords, 12 toyotas, a couple hyunday and one jaguar... seems germany is still pretty rich... or at least germans know which cars are worth saving for... :-) (so much for all the "the immigrants are stealing our jobs!!!11"
11:16 AM Loetmichel: crybabies.)
11:44 AM Tom_L: no, that's the US problem
11:45 AM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: the only jobs being stolen here are the H1B visa jobs
11:45 AM Tom_L: otoh, a good percent of those jobs most fat lazy americans wouldn't want anyway
11:46 AM Tom_L: CaptHindsight, it's filtering down to some fair to decent positions too
11:47 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.apnews.com/bbcef8ddae4e4303983c91880559cf23 no MANAGEMENT was arraested for hiring any of the illegal workers
11:47 AM CaptHindsight: arrested even
11:48 AM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight: in germany the rightwing agitators are chanting the "immigrants are bad, they steal your girls and jobs" all the time
11:48 AM Loetmichel: and some low intelligence people fall for that
11:48 AM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: it's been working
11:48 AM Loetmichel: sadly: yes
11:49 AM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: USA, UK, even a bit in France
11:49 AM CaptHindsight: gee, i wonder who is behind all these stories?
11:50 AM CaptHindsight: but lets not talk about that or investigate
11:54 AM CaptHindsight: https://trac.syr.edu/immigration/reports/559/
11:55 AM CaptHindsight: April 2018 - March 2019) only 11 individuals (and no companies) were prosecuted in just 7 cases
11:55 AM CaptHindsight: During the same period, these 11 prosecutions compare with 85,727 individuals prosecuted for illegal entry,
12:08 PM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight: funny problems
12:08 PM Loetmichel: i think it isnt even illegal to employ an illegal immigrant here in germany
12:08 PM Tom_L: where do most of yours come from?
12:09 PM Loetmichel: it is illegal to not pay taxes for an employee, so THAT is a problem for an illegal because he has no social security number
12:09 PM Loetmichel: but the employment itself isnt illegal here if i remember correctly
12:10 PM Loetmichel: i would wager from africa
12:10 PM Loetmichel: but there are not many "illegal" immigrants here
12:10 PM Loetmichel: because that is stupid.
12:10 PM Loetmichel: if you manage to get to germany from africa, apply for asyl.
12:10 PM Loetmichel: chances are good that you will live here the rest of your life
12:11 PM Loetmichel: AND you get a social security number regardless if you get eventually denied asyl or not
12:11 PM Tom_L: _if_ you chose to go somewhere what would be your choice destination?
12:12 PM Tom_L: albeit germany seems to be a good place to be
12:12 PM Loetmichel: and said denial can take 1-2 decades to actually go thru... and then another decade to be executed and you expelled back to africa
12:12 PM Loetmichel: go where?
12:12 PM Loetmichel: and why?
12:12 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: that's because Germany is full of Germans :) https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B3EBs7sCOzo
12:12 PM Tom_L: just curious if you'd ever thought about that
12:12 PM Loetmichel: germany IS a good country to be in my opinion
12:13 PM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: I agree, but it is easier if you are born there
12:14 PM Loetmichel: we are pretty rich compared to other european countrys, have close to the best social security, close to the best healthcare (for "free"), and a nice countryside as well
12:14 PM Loetmichel: the only thing i dont like is the overboarding amount of bureocracy
12:14 PM Tom_L: that's unavoidable anywhere i think
12:15 PM CaptHindsight: that is the German way
12:15 PM Loetmichel: but thats "whining about nothing" to be honest
12:15 PM CaptHindsight: why my parents had such a hard time fitting in to the USA
12:15 PM CaptHindsight: socially
12:16 PM Loetmichel: if i would ever leave germany for good i would maybe go to norway or canada
12:16 PM Loetmichel: IF
12:34 PM t4nk-freenode: lol@ 'the German way'
12:35 PM t4nk-freenode: can't see much pride in that ;)
12:49 PM Loetmichel: t4nk-freenode: he is not wrong. germans like to soil lots and lots of paper for every "rule" they have.
12:49 PM Loetmichel: i is nothing to be proud of IMHO, but it IS the "german way" of doing things
12:50 PM t4nk-freenode: I was thinking more along the lines of... AUSWEISSSSS, JETZT!
12:51 PM Loetmichel: coworker just printed out an application form for rent supplement for a friend... 28 pages... MAAAN thats a lot of paper... ;)
12:51 PM Loetmichel: at work today i mean
12:52 PM t4nk-freenode: well, that happens everywhere; 'they' just want to steal all of your money and all of your freedom
12:52 PM Loetmichel: t4nk-freenode: you will NOT have any german police officer approach you in that tone. they will usually say "could you please show me some identification papers?"
12:52 PM t4nk-freenode: lol
12:52 PM t4nk-freenode: (it happened in the past though)
12:52 PM t4nk-freenode: However
12:53 PM t4nk-freenode: when I was young, I went to germany on my bike, from holland
12:53 PM t4nk-freenode: motor bike that is
12:53 PM t4nk-freenode: a Z├╝ndapp btw ;)
12:53 PM Loetmichel: unless you gave them reason to belive you will attack them... but then they will not say "ausweis" but "HALT, STEHENBLEIBEN, WAFFE FALLENLASSEN, SIE SIND FESTGENOMMEN!" or something like that
12:53 PM t4nk-freenode: nehow, I was breaking the law by driving the wrong way on the pavement
12:54 PM Loetmichel: and then the steel wristbands will click ;)
12:54 PM t4nk-freenode: no, it did happen in the past, need I clarify??!!?
12:54 PM t4nk-freenode: nehow ;)
12:54 PM t4nk-freenode: then the cops came
12:54 PM t4nk-freenode: and they were very funny
12:54 PM Loetmichel: t4nk-freenode: as i said: german cops are USUALLY friendly
12:54 PM t4nk-freenode: they didn't give me a ticket
12:55 PM t4nk-freenode: lol
12:55 PM t4nk-freenode: asking things like
12:55 PM t4nk-freenode: how fast were you going?
12:55 PM t4nk-freenode: lol.. I was like.. euhm 40km's per hour or so?
12:55 PM t4nk-freenode: yes, and how fast does that traffic sign say?
12:56 PM t4nk-freenode: well.. 5
12:56 PM Loetmichel: unless you give them reason to be angry with you, and even then i am a LOT more relaxed in the presence of a german police officer than i would be in the presence of an US cop for example
12:56 PM t4nk-freenode: ;)
12:56 PM t4nk-freenode: I don't like any cop for that matter
12:56 PM t4nk-freenode: no matter where they're from
12:59 PM t4nk-freenode: 'these squarish things on the floor, what are they?'
12:59 PM t4nk-freenode: euhm, well.. a pavement?
12:59 PM t4nk-freenode: yes!
01:00 PM t4nk-freenode: 'is it common to drive a motorized vehicle on it in holland?'
01:00 PM t4nk-freenode: 'I don't think so'
01:00 PM t4nk-freenode: 'It's the same here!'
01:03 PM Loetmichel: see, they were very friendly, werent they?
02:56 PM pink_vampire: is there a parametric version of MPCNC?
02:56 PM pink_vampire: all I can find is STL files
03:50 PM jthornton: howdy from Horn Lake MS
03:50 PM pink_vampire: hi jthornton
03:52 PM jthornton: hi pin
03:52 PM jthornton: pink
03:52 PM jthornton: pink_vampire,
03:52 PM jthornton: dang forgot to press the tab key lol
03:52 PM pink_vampire: O_o
04:00 PM pink_vampire: I downloaded the MPCNC for the 23.5mm conduit and after measuring the stl is show 23.9mm is that ok? https://i.imgur.com/36xheU2.png
04:13 PM t4nk-freenode: I've finally put all my loose stuff into a 'dvd drive casing' and put my 'minicnc' on top, everything is tucked away nicely now, power connectors, usb, and icsp port
04:13 PM t4nk-freenode: so I can have a clean desk for a little bit ;)
04:14 PM t4nk-freenode: nehow, I would like to try and print a, what turns out to be soic-20 ( I have no knowledge about cnc or electronics whatsoever ;)
04:15 PM t4nk-freenode: just the footprint, on a piece of paper
04:16 PM t4nk-freenode: does anyone know of a few examples, preferably in inkscape, because that worked for me last time
04:17 PM t4nk-freenode: or do I just stop whining, and see how I create it myself in inkscape already?
04:17 PM t4nk-freenode: ok, thanks
04:17 PM t4nk-freenode: no problem, sonny!
04:17 PM Deejay: gn8
04:18 PM t4nk-freenode: gnate yourself, dj
04:18 PM t4nk-freenode: ;)
04:19 PM * jthornton has no clue what is being asked
04:19 PM t4nk-freenode: then there is likely no relevant answer to be expected from you, Sir
04:20 PM t4nk-freenode: ahh well, I'll just fire up inkscape and see if I can draw some boxes in mm's
04:21 PM t4nk-freenode: problem is that I'm an idiot
04:32 PM _unreal_: t4nk-freenode, admitting it means your half way cured
04:33 PM t4nk-freenode: yes, half baked would also be appropriate
04:33 PM t4nk-freenode: turns out I can't even draw a rectangle in inkscape ;)
04:33 PM t4nk-freenode: let alone in exact dimensions
05:00 PM andypugh: How about downloading the data sheet for something in a SOIC package and copying and pasting the footprint diagram in to Inkscape
05:12 PM t4nk-freenode: I thought about that, andypugh, .. but the datasheet has just a few pads on display
05:13 PM t4nk-freenode: however, _unreal_ just got me going with inkscape, so I should now be able to get something going
05:14 PM t4nk-freenode: oops, you meant in general ;)
05:14 PM t4nk-freenode: yea, I 'had to realise that too', didn't even understand that it's just standard dimensions ;)
05:15 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/xsFKhWb.png my soldering iron and what I'm doing with it
05:16 PM _unreal_: you need to paint that pink..
05:17 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: nooo
05:17 PM pink_vampire: I need to make my MPCNC pink
05:17 PM _unreal_: tushay
05:18 PM _unreal_: ! I'm suprised my daughter has not asked me to make her mini cnc machine pink
05:18 PM _unreal_: i'm using free white starboard
05:18 PM pink_vampire: but i have 5K +++ of some random colors brand nee, so I think I will go with them.
05:19 PM _unreal_: well I guess i'm going to go take a shower. just got home from work. it was a dusty day
05:19 PM _unreal_: got to do my FAVE. sand gelcoat
05:19 PM _unreal_: sigh
05:20 PM _unreal_: only reason I was doing it was because the morons where screwing it up
05:20 PM _unreal_: and its on a time frame
05:20 PM _unreal_: back in a few
05:27 PM pink_vampire: ok, i'm here
05:35 PM t4nk-freenode: wellwell, this could work
05:36 PM t4nk-freenode: the drawing that is
05:39 PM _unreal_: and how are you going to import it?
05:39 PM _unreal_: reading a per pixel motion control or REAL gcode?
05:40 PM t4nk-freenode: euhm
05:40 PM t4nk-freenode: hehe
05:41 PM t4nk-freenode: whatever? .. I currently just read the gcode into my app and interpret that
05:41 PM t4nk-freenode: I did a couple of tests, and it works
05:41 PM t4nk-freenode: but it's small though
05:42 PM t4nk-freenode: and then to think that this isn't even really that small at all for an ic
06:08 PM Sabotend_ is now known as Sabotender
06:19 PM andypugh: If I had to draw a dimensioned footprint I would use Fusion360.
06:19 PM andypugh: I have never quite figured out how to dimension things in Inkscape.
06:20 PM tiwake: heh yeah
06:20 PM tiwake: export to DXF and use something else
06:20 PM tiwake: heh
06:20 PM tiwake: freecad or something
06:22 PM CaptHindsight: https://inkscape.org/~fsmMLK/%E2%98%85dimensions
06:23 PM CaptHindsight: https://github.com/fsmMLK/inkscapeDimensions
06:23 PM tiwake: inkscape is getting ready to release version 1.0 soonish
06:50 PM Elmo40: 'ish?
06:51 PM tiwake: they are in beta right now
06:52 PM tiwake: but inscape has always been "it will be ready when its ready"
06:52 PM andypugh: CaptHindsight: That seems to be an extension to annotate dimensions, not to constrain sketch items to positions.
07:01 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, free advice, free extension
07:14 PM _unreal_: 1! version 1!
07:14 PM _unreal_: after how many years?
07:14 PM XXCoder: inkscape v1? whoa
07:15 PM XXCoder: unread years? look at freecad. ;)
07:16 PM _unreal_: free cad is a lost cause
07:16 PM _unreal_: heh
07:16 PM _unreal_: milling an other one of my parts for my daughters mini cnc
07:16 PM XXCoder: nah it still few features finished before 1.0
07:16 PM XXCoder: and assembly is cursed
07:18 PM _unreal_: I'm milling part of the Z assembly
07:19 PM _unreal_: once I get this part cut I can let my daughter put it together provided I have the right sized screws
07:20 PM XXCoder: i wonder if you could sell kits
07:20 PM XXCoder: that kit sounds like perfect kit for schools too.
07:21 PM XXCoder: what will it can do? cut wood plastics only, but also weaker metals like bronze and alum?
07:21 PM _unreal_: depends on what its built with
07:21 PM _unreal_: Im using 3/4" thick starboard for the ARMS
07:21 PM _unreal_: so your talking 1.5" of vertical stiffener
07:22 PM _unreal_: solid
07:22 PM _unreal_: and .5" rails
07:22 PM _unreal_: I'm just setting it up with sleeve's but what ever
07:22 PM _unreal_: its tiny and meant for learning
07:23 PM _unreal_: I coould ?? maybe upgrade it to a more ballzy liner
07:23 PM XXCoder: maybe but honestly even as is it would be great teaching tool
07:23 PM XXCoder: i doubt its large enough to dupicate itself
07:25 PM XXCoder: in lest, not without multi steps using pins to align
07:26 PM _unreal_: ya
07:26 PM _unreal_: though it is large enough to produce a slightly smaller one in one go parts
07:26 PM _unreal_: .....
07:26 PM _unreal_: no it may be close to being able to make its self
07:26 PM _unreal_: I'd have to dbl check
07:27 PM XXCoder: itself dupicating would be interesting, exp3ecially for schools
07:27 PM XXCoder: some students would want to make one for home
07:53 PM _unreal_: XXCoder, true but you also get into liablity
08:02 PM XXCoder: thats true
08:02 PM XXCoder: dunno but maybe theres ways to teach proper usage and then sign paper stuff
08:02 PM XXCoder: but same time usa eductaion is massively underfunded.
08:14 PM t4nk-freenode: and what's new in inkscape 1, they dropped gcode support? ;)
08:16 PM XXCoder: nah they added 3d game easter egg
08:56 PM TurBoss: gcodetools is not much userfriendly
08:56 PM TurBoss: well it is..
08:56 PM TurBoss: a bit
08:58 PM XXCoder: i do want to check into that evenually
08:58 PM XXCoder: for plotter
08:59 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4M-6UJb5Zg0
09:00 PM XXCoder: his other video shows it making dot pattern prints
09:06 PM TurBoss: hello XXCoder
09:06 PM XXCoder: hey hows ya
09:06 PM TurBoss: fine!
09:07 PM TurBoss: no cnc since long
09:07 PM TurBoss: xD
09:07 PM TurBoss: I think that in 2 weeks i'll be able again
09:07 PM TurBoss: hurray!
09:07 PM TurBoss: home work
09:08 PM XXCoder: :)
09:44 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: this guy need a GF
09:44 PM XXCoder: who? heh
09:58 PM XXCoder: who need the gf I mean pink_vampire
10:06 PM ve7it: everybody needs a nice GF!
10:06 PM XXCoder: including ladies I guess
10:19 PM XXCoder: yo
11:17 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: the guy from the video you post
11:17 PM XXCoder: ahh dunno
11:17 PM XXCoder: he might have kids for all I know lol
11:30 PM flyback: man I love that
11:30 PM flyback: hack
11:30 PM flyback: best one ever
11:30 PM XXCoder: yah I want to make it
11:30 PM flyback: making small hydroelectic plants by running pumps in reverse
11:30 PM XXCoder: the dot pattern video you should watch as that have some fixes
11:30 PM flyback: not the most efficienct but dirt cheap
11:30 PM flyback: and works well for small setups
11:31 PM XXCoder: oh youre not talking about plotter thing I linked to lol
11:31 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W67I5vuW7SY
11:31 PM flyback: sorry but you might like this
11:31 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bRl0ztxn094
11:32 PM flyback: one place here in pa
11:32 PM XXCoder: from dam or something?
11:32 PM flyback: they used the acid mine drainage
11:32 PM flyback: it had enough flow to generator power
11:32 PM flyback: and they use the power to then treat the water
11:32 PM XXCoder: cant watch much anymore too much handcam
11:32 PM XXCoder: but interesting
11:58 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90DptQxHBUQ
11:58 PM XXCoder: sorry cant watch handheld, expecially if low fps
11:58 PM XXCoder: more sensive to that when sick