#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 29 2019

01:12 AM Elmo40: ave... what a good canuckistanian
01:46 AM Bushman: Elmo40: you sir are mistaken, I am not from Canada ;>
01:46 AM Bushman: good news: fixed my probe! :)
01:47 AM Bushman: silly mistake... one of the lines in the config was missing.
01:47 AM Bushman: i have no idea how it got removed but it is present in the source material, so yea... silly mistake.
01:56 AM Elmo40: no no, not you... AvE
01:58 AM Deejay: moin
02:04 AM Bushman: Elmo40: ah, yes! Yes he is :P
02:04 AM Bushman: but in this case it was justa greeting :P\
02:06 AM Bushman: few days ago someone asked how do i adjust my probe...
02:06 AM Bushman: that didn't let me sleep at night XD
02:06 AM Bushman: https://imgur.com/JUgVuDR
02:06 AM Bushman: added adjustment scres
02:06 AM Bushman: *screws
02:08 AM Bushman: it's not in the spindle right now cause somewhere along the way someone mixed up my order
02:08 AM Bushman: i've ordered spindle motor with er16 collet holder and got kress collet holder
02:09 AM Bushman: i think someone just wanted to save some money and "googled" for a cheaper suplier but stripped the last letter of the model
02:11 AM Bushman: what resolution and repeatability do cheap commercial probes have?
04:20 AM Loetmichel: soo, just brought my Opel Omega to the scrapyard. The woman at the counter there: "Maan that was an expensive parking spot, having that car insured and taxed just to be able to stay on public ground for four months... You should have called us, we would have towed it for free." $me" yes, i know. i just forgot all the time."
05:09 AM jthornton: morning
05:09 AM XXCoder: boo
05:09 AM XXCoder: jt it seems they might be pulling off workspace led lights
05:09 AM XXCoder: dunno what they will change it to.
05:10 AM jthornton: dang, seems they should have done a bit more research
05:11 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:20 AM Bushman: Loetmichel: rotfl
06:21 AM Bushman: Loetmichel: no worries man. i will forget to attend my funeral. so you're not alone.
06:35 AM Tom_L: morning
06:39 AM jthornton: morning
06:50 AM Tom_L: what was the solution for your M3 holes?
06:56 AM jthornton: well I just used some lower unit oil to finish the job
06:56 AM jthornton: should have worked ok if I had cleaned out the coolant tank and put fresh coolant I guess
07:24 AM miss0r: This bloody heat is killing me !
07:24 AM miss0r: Doing some garden work - sneaking into the shop to get a smoke and a cold drink all the time (air con in here).
07:24 AM miss0r: I am sweating like a beat up racing horse
08:11 AM Elmo40: been +32 most of the week!
08:12 AM Elmo40: even when it rained it only dropped to 26. Then the humidity coats everything!
08:12 AM Elmo40: i feel like i'm in florida...
09:02 AM jthornton: prob cooler with the nice florida sea breeze
09:04 AM Tom_L: summer is here for sure
10:18 AM perry_j1987: 89 here right now
11:06 AM jthornton: only 84°F here right now... just came inside from putting siding up on the living room wall even with the 36" heat buster it's hot out
11:12 AM jym: jthornton: What's a heat buster? Swamp cooler?
11:13 AM jym: jthornton: and what is SMART paneling?
11:14 AM jthornton: 36" fan on wheels
11:15 AM jthornton: LP Smart Siding
11:17 AM jthornton: prob not allowed in cali
11:20 AM skunkworks: supposed to get to 95 here today
11:21 AM skunkworks: we went for a walk to get some vitamin D into the kids.. It was alreay bad at about 10am
11:21 AM jthornton: our high is forecast at 91°F
11:22 AM jthornton: I had to do a complete change of clothes when I came inside a bit ago I was soaking wet
11:23 AM jthornton: gotta get that siding up today so I can put that $300 belt on the Spyder tomorrow
11:24 AM jthornton: I need a monster machine like skunkworks to run that M30x3.5 tap into the spindle adapter
11:27 AM skunkworks: that is a big tap.. we thread milled some about that size..
11:28 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/house/trackpress.JPG
11:28 AM skunkworks: for
11:28 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/house/TrackPress.JPG
11:30 AM skunkworks: made our own
11:30 AM jym: skunkworks: what is that thing?
11:32 AM skunkworks: it is a 'press' for pressing pins out of a crawler track
11:33 AM skunkworks: very cheaper for us to build than buy...
11:33 AM skunkworks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/1Set-120T-Electric-Portable-Hydraulic-Track-Pin-Press/113545095232?_trkparms=ispr%3D1&hash=item1a6fd0a840:g:044AAOSwlMxc4nL8&enc=AQADAAAB4KX%2FKt4E1xf3SDqEdBclaYb5%2FeTgb4QwMiKynx2EJ5A2ukvLNTdu7L8wIOTWJpNd5ebSEAayVoTOpHZyil3ezgpJ8agnguofk0Pa%2FQzhGqSMRbYuKatqRsHZim%2FA8Rxzbx0kltKgt9%2BCUWSBw0xs0mzdeX6sOBasaDh%2FOuK9W6mpQsm5bB2FifU%2BIoUjCFcKaMF5H2LLMaflLRPm05wHJT%2FaIlby53j4rH
11:33 AM skunkworks: QZxHMdkytgxeaa7n%2B96lVMCa5NBuGrTsWZlwqF4PTu9jc4VvbaepGbSgY%2FEjRuYMxrfd5KYR0obHI9IuPOkazG8DQtFF70aSDQZM4YUSiL%2BcM3NqR1sMs7FwWZJ2SvEeymTk7CFWgoLiVPu6GP1rx4Bcpo91PitPtRjed8Q%2F9GGr6piteMk%2B%2Bnc8Q3DoPkB9OcjCGo5r%2FWVrmihmYivKqdRSie%2F4eWd2HFQXlXqQ7D7FHmzzOwdmrOKlBjQ9MTTufMzsspt1oHWUSwxyzduYRGIuTlNIjNGZd8stcnHTPZaXpqJ5VW695gYV%2FVf7TUdK2OqG9GUJLGFwPPScTIOM6%2BmI6SaAHA8Fx2T50uAUBzW%2BEcWEiKoLtKXdzmMXe8
11:33 AM skunkworks: 5he02G0s0I4bse4E7%2F4Hz7fWVIp5ge8VXw%3D%3D&checksum=1135450952326826cc76bf864fb796b55f44c4120dc9
11:33 AM skunkworks: oh my
11:33 AM skunkworks: sorry
11:34 AM jthornton: yea wow
11:34 AM jthornton: yea a thread mill would have cost $150 the tap cost $15
11:34 AM skunkworks: https://www.ebay.com/itm/100T-Electric-Portable-Hydraulic-Track-Pin-Press-Shipping-By-Sea-To-USA/264210204559?hash=item3d8427c78f:g:EpYAAOSwQ45ccN4m
11:35 AM skunkworks: yah - we made our own...
11:35 AM jthornton: much better than a drift and a bfh
11:35 AM skunkworks: I don't think we have a picture of it..
11:35 AM skunkworks: yes - they usually require many many tons of force...
11:36 AM jthornton: what crawler do you have besides the one in red?
11:37 AM jthornton: I sold my JD350 a while back, I was done with it and not as useful as a hoe
11:37 AM skunkworks: Hmm - I don't remember the brand.. it is a loader
11:37 AM skunkworks: not MF - he sold that one..
11:37 AM jthornton: it's got the right color paint for a JD
11:38 AM skunkworks: No - it is a massy ferguson... He got rid of the IH
11:38 AM skunkworks: ?
11:39 AM jthornton: I think most industrial equipment was yellow
11:39 AM jthornton: well I'm cooled down so time to rest my eyes for a bit
11:39 AM jthornton: chat later
11:44 AM jym: skunkworks: ah, ok
11:46 AM skunkworks: no - maybe ours is an IH
11:46 AM skunkworks: heh
11:46 AM skunkworks: don't remember
11:50 AM Tom_L: ok. proud father moment.. Kid went to the SkillsUSA national competetion after taking 1st at state and came in 3rd in the nation yesterday.
11:51 AM Tom_L: Automated Manufacturing Technology
11:53 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: wow - awesome!
11:57 AM jym: Tom_L: Cool, what did he make?
11:57 AM Tom_L: he was the draftsman on a 3 man team.. draftsman, programmer, machinist
11:57 AM Tom_L: they don't disclose the competetion parts
11:58 AM Tom_L: something that can be done in a few hrs though
11:58 AM * jym is guessing it was not an autonomous competition-seek-and-destroy robot
12:43 PM jthornton: nice
12:49 PM jthornton: Tom_L: was it the same team as state?
02:06 PM _unreal_: P...U.... running the laser etcher..
02:18 PM jym: On what? and are you using an exhaust blower?
03:17 PM Tom_L: jthornton yes
03:18 PM Tom_L: with exception of the machinist who was replaced for not showing up at state
03:18 PM Tom_L: they won state a man down
03:20 PM jthornton: how do the teams get together?
03:21 PM * jthornton is a tired puppy and only has 2 more pieces of smart siding to put up both 16' long
03:21 PM XXCoder: they kidnap random people
03:21 PM XXCoder: ;)
03:26 PM jym: ARGH... First time that Amazon ever annoyed/frustrated me, just got off the phone with them
03:28 PM Tom_L: jthornton, they are invited to compete by each vo'tech
03:28 PM jthornton: ah, I wondered how they got picked
03:29 PM Tom_L: i think they have some practice drawings etc they do and are assessed by the instructors and placed where they would do best
03:30 PM Tom_L: the one that went this year hasn't done the machining classes yet or he may have been put in a different category
03:30 PM Tom_L: he could have competed at HS level but chose to compete as an adult
03:31 PM jthornton: pretty dang cool for your boy to place so high in the national, I bet that looks good on the resume
03:31 PM Tom_L: after winning state he was offered a job
03:31 PM jym: Tom_L: age?
03:31 PM jthornton: wow they don't mess around
03:31 PM Tom_L: the company that hired him maybe a month ago paid him for his week off too
03:31 PM Tom_L: 19
03:32 PM jym: Tom_L: and whats the job?
03:32 PM Tom_L: jthornton dunno if you know who Spirit is but he met the senior VP while at nationals
03:32 PM Tom_L: jym he's in a group that runs 5 axis cnc
03:32 PM jthornton: it seems to ring a bell but can't quite place it
03:32 PM jym: Tom_L: very cool =)
03:33 PM Tom_L: jthornton, used to be Boeing
03:33 PM jthornton: oh didn't know they changed
03:33 PM Tom_L: they left wichita and sold to spirit
03:33 PM jthornton: oh ok
03:33 PM Tom_L: they're still here just working on alot more stuff besides just boeing now
03:33 PM jthornton: what does spirit make
03:33 PM Tom_L: airbus etc
03:33 PM jym: Tom_L: weapons division too?
03:34 PM Tom_L: jym, not that i know of
03:34 PM jthornton: cool
03:34 PM Tom_L: they still make the tubes for boeing here
03:34 PM Tom_L: ship them by rail to seattle
03:34 PM Tom_L: https://skillsusa-register.org/rpts/EventMedalists.aspx
03:35 PM Tom_L: expand that if it didn't and you can see all the categories they compete in
03:36 PM Tom_L: wide range of skill related occupations
03:37 PM jym: Barbering?
03:38 PM XXCoder: wow
03:38 PM XXCoder: thinkgeek is closing
03:39 PM jym: Moving not closing
03:39 PM jym: https://www.thinkgeek.com/help/
03:39 PM Tom_L: last year the older one competed in CNC Milling Specialist
03:40 PM XXCoder: most of good stuff was sold aw
03:41 PM XXCoder: I wanted that minecraft lava block
03:42 PM jym: XXCoder: https://www.target.com/p/minecraft-6-mood-light-brown/-/A-75566783
03:42 PM XXCoder: i know its avilible elsewhere, wanted it on sale lol
03:42 PM jym: ah
03:43 PM jym: XXCoder: TG used to be part of SF
03:43 PM XXCoder: TG, SF?
03:43 PM jym: TG = ThinkGeek, SF=SourceForge
03:44 PM Deejay: gn8
03:44 PM XXCoder: ahh ok
03:44 PM jym: dn9
03:44 PM jym: XXCoder: TG got sold to gamestop
03:44 PM XXCoder: isnt sf site of much crap now?
03:45 PM jym: XXCoder: IT has been for a LONG time,
03:45 PM XXCoder: make made sure I remembered correctly
03:46 PM jym: TG was the only profitable entity under the SF umbrella
03:46 PM jym: SF, and slashdot are so so
03:47 PM XXCoder: whats slashdot doing now? I guess it got sold off also
03:47 PM jym: SF and slasdot are the only thing that remain
03:48 PM jym: https://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/hot-topic-to-acquire-geeknet-inc-parent-company-of-online-retailer-thinkgeek-300088388.html
03:48 PM XXCoder: weird that they sold off profitable part
03:48 PM jym: TG wasn't part of the package basically
03:49 PM XXCoder: https://i0.wp.com/www.geeksaresexy.net/wp-content/uploads/2019/06/mario-1.jpg?w=600&ssl=1 lol
03:51 PM jym: All of the SF CEO's just ran it into the ground sadly
03:52 PM XXCoder: too bad really
03:53 PM jym: The riginal CEO was a nice guy, just didn't know how to turn the company around
03:53 PM Elmo40: SF started to look like a for-profit website.
03:54 PM Elmo40: cluttered with adverts (which i get, but they covered 50% of the page!)
03:54 PM Elmo40: and always suggested programs that were 'free for opensource but if you wanted functionality then buy the pro version'
03:55 PM XXCoder: adverts need balance
03:55 PM jym: https://itsfoss.com/story-of-va-linux/
03:55 PM XXCoder: need money add it, but adverts if too many/annoying/dangerous it drives people away
03:56 PM jym: Yeah, those GIANT ads started appear right around the time the nice CEO was going byebye
03:58 PM jym: The new CEO was an idiot... when he first came into the company, he wanted a $400,000 video conferencing system setup. We said fuck that and installed a $40,000 one that had more features =)
04:00 PM XXCoder: geez
04:00 PM XXCoder: 400k??
04:04 PM jym: XXCoder: Yeah, he wanted a fancy cisco vid conference system, we said fuck that and used an open source one instead =)
04:05 PM XXCoder: lol I guess he was... "spendy"
04:05 PM XXCoder: and that put company into trouble
04:06 PM jym: XXCoder: Well, it was excessive for wanting to spend so much just walking into the company
04:06 PM XXCoder: https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/lumir-k-the-one-and-only-cooking-oil-led-lamp
04:06 PM XXCoder: interesting
04:08 PM XXCoder: not their first time apparenrtly
04:11 PM jym: but looks like they don't have/get the backing they want
04:15 PM XXCoder: pretty closw and usually theres an uptick
04:20 PM Loetmichel: I just had a "stars sing their songs 20++ years ago and now" compilation in the youtube "reconmmended" feed... had to pause the vid every 30 seconds to listen to the original... is there an english word for the german "Ohrwurm" (song that is stuck in your ear)? ... i knew ALL the songs in that vid well enough to sing along... MAAAN i am getting oooold ;)
04:20 PM XXCoder: earworm
04:20 PM XXCoder: though theres few other names for it, I only know of one
04:24 PM jym: These are DAMN GOOD for removing splinters and much cheaper than "splinter outs" for being the EXACT same thing... https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B002U1PVDS/
04:25 PM Loetmichel: jym: i use an xacto-blade for that, #10 (or was it #11?)
04:25 PM XXCoder: my favorite https://www.amazon.com/Carson-MagniGrip-Magnifier-Precision-MG-88/dp/B0011WYMI2
04:25 PM XXCoder: best $2 I ever bought
04:25 PM XXCoder: used it 10 times so far across years
04:25 PM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17226&g2_imageViewsIndex=1 <- #11 apparently
04:26 PM jym: Loetmichel: these are sterile
04:27 PM Loetmichel: jym: so?
04:28 PM Loetmichel: the splinter wasnt sterile either ;)
04:28 PM jym: Loetmichel: Fine, get an infection, let it grow to 100x
04:28 PM jym: =)
04:28 PM Loetmichel: i dont get infections ;)
04:29 PM jym: anyhow, 200 for $9 and you can toss them everywheree
04:29 PM Loetmichel: alsi the amount of 99.5% Isopropyl alcohol i use its no biggie to dunk the blade in it beforehand ;)
04:31 PM jym: Loetmichel: Yeah, but who knows whats on your blades =)
04:57 PM jym: Tom_L: what was that microscope brand again?
04:57 PM Tom_L: amscope
04:57 PM jym: Tom_L: ty
05:04 PM jym: Tom_L: Doens't look too bad... https://www.amscope.com/3-5x-90x-stereo-zoom-microscope-on-boom-stand-with-80-led-light.html
05:05 PM jym: Tom_L: Not that I have a clue
05:05 PM Tom_L: yeah i _think_ that's the same stand i have
05:05 PM Tom_L: there are basically 2 and the other is smaller and lighter i think
05:06 PM Tom_L: you want that much zoom?
05:06 PM jym: Tom_L: I really don't know to be honest
05:07 PM jym: Tom_L: Would I NOT wnat that much zoom for some reason?
05:07 PM Tom_L: iirc mine was 7-45 but it's not marked and i can't remember now
05:07 PM Tom_L: you move something under it and you gotta re'focus
05:08 PM Tom_L: i just wonder if that much zoom would have a smaller focus length
05:08 PM Tom_L: or whatever you call it
05:08 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure
05:09 PM jym: Yeah, me neither. It's hard to compare optics when you don't know the pros/cons
05:10 PM Tom_L: i'm pretty happy with mine
05:10 PM Tom_L: decent work area under it
05:11 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/scope/scope2.jpg
05:11 PM Tom_L: not too close to the work when focused
05:20 PM jym: Yeah, I just don't know for sure, including am I going to have a very small "focused" area, or the whole area that I see
05:20 PM jym: ...will be focused
05:27 PM Tom_L: pretty much the whole area at any certain depth is in focus but it's a tight focus
05:28 PM Tom_L: that's why i think the 90 might be even tighter but i dunno for sure
05:28 PM Tom_L: guess it depends what you're gonna do with it
05:38 PM jym: $392.69
05:38 PM jym: with discount coupon
05:42 PM skunkworks: https://youtu.be/XvyanCuzNds
05:42 PM skunkworks: another hq production...
05:45 PM jthornton: what no cat wire tools lol
05:46 PM jthornton: and hq does the secret work off camera... well I guess you have to see what your doing lol
05:47 PM skunkworks: :)
05:47 PM jthornton: we got the last piece of smart siding up on the living room wall and everything put away... twas very hot at the end
05:48 PM skunkworks: ha! it has been a while since I have done that.
05:48 PM jthornton: looks like our peak is 88°F for the day
05:48 PM roycroft: i just got back from the country fair, and it was hot there too
05:48 PM jthornton: I usually do at least one end twice lol having let one of the wires get out of place
05:48 PM roycroft: i spent 4 hours with a vegmanic crew clearing logs and brush from our booth/campsite
05:49 PM roycroft: not what one wants to do when it's hot
05:49 PM jthornton: no
05:49 PM roycroft: but it's done
05:49 PM roycroft: we can camp :)
05:49 PM jthornton: I got those right angle wheels in and tried the narrow one and I like what I saw
05:49 PM roycroft: and that stuff is not even my job - my job is booth construction
05:49 PM roycroft: which is nowhere near done
05:49 PM jthornton: opps
05:49 PM roycroft: so another long day tomorrow working on that
05:50 PM jthornton: got a photo of the site?
05:50 PM roycroft: maybe
05:50 PM roycroft: not from this year
05:59 PM roycroft: http://www.roycroft.us/Booth44.jpeg
06:05 PM jym: skunkworks: HA, but did it tone out properly =)
06:08 PM roycroft: jt: this video gives a decent sense of what the fair is:
06:08 PM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v628snREgIQ
06:11 PM jym: roycroft: you're in oregon?/
06:12 PM roycroft: yes
06:12 PM roycroft: i'm in eugene
06:15 PM jym: roycroft: Ah, I thought your were a Brit for some odd reason
06:17 PM roycroft: i have scottish blood
06:17 PM roycroft: but i'm not from the uk
06:18 PM roycroft: i'm actually from chicago originally, but i've spent most of my life in washington and oregon
06:19 PM jthornton: roycroft: nice looking booth
06:20 PM roycroft: thanks
06:20 PM roycroft: that was the year i replaced the posts
06:20 PM jthornton: I like the old west store front look
06:20 PM roycroft: so we have to dismantle the booth to a bare skeleton after every fair
06:21 PM roycroft: so that nature can take over again, and the sun and rain can get to the ground
06:21 PM roycroft: we just borrow the land for a couple weeks/year
06:21 PM roycroft: the entire fair is like that, even the big stages other infrastructure
06:21 PM roycroft: there are no permanent roofs or lofts anywhere
06:21 PM jthornton: so just the posts and roof is left or you have to remove it completely?
06:22 PM roycroft: posts and joists
06:22 PM roycroft: decking goes away
06:22 PM roycroft: the siding goes away
06:22 PM jthornton: wow that's a lot of work
06:22 PM roycroft: i take it all down and store it
06:23 PM roycroft: i've made it modular - it's just a few lag screws to dismantle the sides, and a few screws to remove the decking
06:23 PM roycroft: i have some pre-fair pictures somewhere
06:23 PM roycroft: let me see if i can find any
06:23 PM jthornton: nice, I bet after a few times of dismantling you find short cuts
06:24 PM roycroft: yeah, i've rebuilt the entire booth since i started working there
06:24 PM roycroft: and i have made it really easy to assemble and disassemble
06:26 PM * jthornton goes to check on the rice
06:27 PM roycroft: i found a pre-fair pic
06:27 PM roycroft: i'll push it to the website in a minute
06:29 PM roycroft: http://www.roycroft.us/Booth44-Pre-Fair.jpeg
06:30 PM roycroft: i have 2 feet to pack everything in
06:30 PM roycroft: anything that does not fit has to be moved offsite until the next year
06:31 PM roycroft: sorry about the crappy picture - it was taken with my ipad
07:17 PM jym: roycroft: is that where you hang the witches from?
07:17 PM roycroft: we don't hang witches
07:17 PM roycroft: we embrace them, like we embrace eveyone else, as long as they are nice
07:17 PM jym: oh that's right, burn em
07:18 PM roycroft: and sometimes even when they aren't so nice
07:19 PM XXCoder: burn em with burning love?
07:22 PM jym: tar and feathers
07:24 PM roycroft: what's with all the witch hate?
07:24 PM _unreal_: I am so damn dumb founded
07:24 PM _unreal_: so my USB controller is now alive
07:24 PM roycroft: it may be alive, but is it sentient?
07:24 PM _unreal_: before it kept freezing etc... now its working again
07:25 PM _unreal_: if it is it has a funny way of showing it
07:25 PM _unreal_: GOD..... it has not crashed yet
07:25 PM _unreal_: it was freezing and loosing connection to my computer
07:26 PM _unreal_: I'd have to unplug it plug it back in and it came back to life
07:26 PM _unreal_: I'd do a home and it would freeze again...
07:26 PM _unreal_: I desoldered the main controller chip. put it on my eeprom programmer read looked at the chip to see if it was damaged or not...
07:27 PM _unreal_: I could READ the firmware and write it right back to it just fine???
07:27 PM _unreal_: for haha's I replace two 74hc244d's on the board
07:27 PM _unreal_: but now eerything seems to be running
07:27 PM _unreal_: has not crashed yet
07:28 PM Tom_L: 94�F
07:46 PM _unreal_: I just got it to kind of freeze on me
07:46 PM _unreal_: interesting
07:47 PM _unreal_: I lost some options? but I could still steer the machine... I unplugged and all functions came back...
07:47 PM _unreal_: god thats wierd
07:48 PM Tom_L: noisy cable?
07:51 PM _unreal_: no
07:51 PM _unreal_: this is the controller that got 24v +v into ground
07:51 PM _unreal_: I think it caused some kind of minor damage in the main controller chip
07:51 PM _unreal_: but a high heat cycle and replaceing a few parts on the board has helped
07:52 PM _unreal_: I'm not going to see my new motion control board till mid july when it arrives in the mail
09:07 PM _unreal_: ok so I've been running it for the past few hours
09:07 PM _unreal_: and I have not crashed again
09:07 PM _unreal_: interesting
09:08 PM _unreal_: though I have crashed the Z a few times forgetting to put the gator clip on for tuning Z tool height sensor.
09:08 PM _unreal_: yep its got some nice dents
10:07 PM Elmo40: "that'll buff out"
10:12 PM Elmo40: if i were to use 48V nema23 motors, who's drivers handle that voltage? other than Gecko?
10:13 PM jym: Elmo40: craploads,
10:13 PM Elmo40: i didn't know that.
10:13 PM Elmo40: i thought 24V was 'the norm'
10:15 PM jym: Steppers are typically driven at 20-25x their rated voltage
10:16 PM Elmo40: interesting
10:16 PM Elmo40: helps with holding power?
10:16 PM Elmo40: more volts = stronger magnet
10:48 PM jym: Elmo40: IT's a VERY GOOD read https://www.geckodrive.com/support/step-motor-basics.html
11:01 PM * _unreal_ is pushing 24v
11:01 PM _unreal_: still waiting on my 48v PSU
11:01 PM _unreal_: will be nice to pump up the spindle to 48v
11:01 PM Tom_L: toroid or switcher?
11:01 PM _unreal_: switcher
11:02 PM _unreal_: you know the hold switcheroo
11:02 PM _unreal_: hold=old
11:03 PM Tom_L: Elmo40, as a cheap alternative: http://leadshine.com/producttypes.aspx?type=products&category=stepper-products&producttype=stepper-drives
11:03 PM _unreal_: been dreading doing it but I just finished building the motor relay controller for spindle
11:04 PM _unreal_: annoying thing if this motion controller totally stopped being funky.. it has relays right on it....
11:04 PM Tom_L: using those cheap blue chinese relays?
11:04 PM _unreal_: ?
11:04 PM _unreal_: nope
11:04 PM _unreal_: the relay controller I built is built in UK
11:05 PM _unreal_: 24v relay
11:05 PM Tom_L: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/71LyrM2tGcL._SX425_.jpg
11:06 PM Tom_L: i had similar on mine for a while and got rid of em
11:06 PM Tom_L: they don't last
11:25 PM _unreal_: hum
11:25 PM _unreal_: LOL Tom_L those are the same relays that are on the board
11:25 PM _unreal_: not being used
11:26 PM _unreal_: My laser etcher is working finally
11:59 PM veek: (AUD) wow heh check out this sailing catalogue of steel parts https://www.whitworths.com.au/free-catalogue