#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 04 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:02 AM elmo40: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=obCgJQp5Yj8&t=815s
02:54 AM Sabotend_ is now known as Sabotender
05:20 AM jthornton: morning
05:35 AM XXCoder: jthornton: awake whole time but wasnt home till now lol
05:43 AM jthornton: http://linuxcnc.org/documents/
05:43 AM jthornton: almost forgot what I was going to show you
05:44 AM XXCoder: new docs?
05:44 AM XXCoder: oh
05:44 AM XXCoder: 2.9 interesting
05:46 AM jthornton: yea 2.8 is in the release process finally
05:46 AM XXCoder: :D
05:47 AM XXCoder: I wonder whats up on python 2.7/3 port
05:47 AM jthornton: there was some work on that as well dunno if they got it done or not
05:51 AM XXCoder: cool
06:12 AM iidefix_ is now known as iiidefix
06:50 AM jthornton: here comes the rain again
07:34 AM Tom_L: storm rolled thru here around 4
07:34 AM XXCoder: here rain have been delayed to friday
07:36 AM Tom_L: jthornton, have they fixed 'run from here' in 2.8?
07:37 AM Tom_L: or were they just tired of waiting for another release...
07:42 AM jthornton: dunno
07:42 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/A3/A3_batch/Batch3.jpg
07:42 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Can_Holder/A3/A3_batch/Batch4.jpg
07:43 AM jthornton: mass production
07:43 AM Tom_L: P2 deburred where it was pulled out from P1
07:44 AM Tom_L: i need to open up the pockets on P2 a little. they're a little snug
07:44 AM Tom_L: but it was getting late
07:45 AM Tom_L: and i broke a tap where you see one missing so i removed it from the program
07:45 AM jthornton: what happened to the tap?
07:46 AM Tom_L: me
07:46 AM Tom_L: :)
07:46 AM Tom_L: 4-40
07:46 AM jthornton: oh hand tapping?
07:46 AM Tom_L: yeah for the fixture where those screws are
07:47 AM jthornton: are you using remap?
07:47 AM Tom_L: ?
07:47 AM Tom_L: no cause i'm not sure what that is
07:47 AM Tom_L: all done in my cad cam
07:48 AM Tom_L: code is longer but it works fine
07:48 AM jthornton: looks like the run from here only has a bug with remap
07:48 AM Tom_L: oh i see what you mena
07:48 AM Tom_L: mean
07:48 AM Tom_L: yeah i was but i'm not now
07:48 AM Tom_L: when i was messin with rigid tapping and M6
07:49 AM jthornton: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/246
07:50 AM Tom_L: i posted one as well
07:51 AM Tom_L: i've just been running 2.7 for now until i get time to take that code out of the config
07:52 AM jthornton: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/milestone/1
08:08 AM Tom_L: there are a couple more reports on it too i think
08:15 AM Tom_L: my cad cam must leave some files open or something that locks a directory because unless i save all my changes i'm unable to reach it from my mill pc
08:15 AM Tom_L: kinda nice not having a tennis shoe network now
08:15 AM JT-Shop: lol
08:16 AM Tom_L: i still carry the usb drive
08:16 AM Tom_L: looks like the storm has passed for now
08:18 AM Tom_L: do you know of a way to map a network folder to a desktop icon?
08:19 AM perry_j1987: morning
08:22 AM JT-Shop: in linux or windblows?
08:22 AM Tom_L: linux
08:23 AM JT-Shop: mine does it automagicly when I visit another pc
08:23 AM JT-Shop: I think you have to set that somewhere
08:26 AM Tom_L: for now i just leave the window open in the 2nd desktop
09:30 AM Loetmichel: JT-Shop_ edtit the mountlist?
10:19 AM Deejay: tach
10:19 AM Deejay: hi :)
11:11 AM jthornton: hi
11:22 AM perry_j1987: everybody off having fun today?
11:22 AM Tom_L: you bet
11:23 AM perry_j1987: im basking in a moment here
11:23 AM perry_j1987: a moment where two parts fit together as expected :P
11:25 AM jthornton: working in the yard, planning the siding removal from the living room wall
11:25 AM jthornton: and cleaning chicken poop so yea having fun
11:25 AM perry_j1987: blow torch or tnt?
11:25 AM perry_j1987: :)
11:26 AM perry_j1987: could rent one of those storm drain vacuum trucks for the day maybe
11:26 AM perry_j1987: spraypaint acme on the side of it and stand in front yard holding the hose at your vinyl siding
11:26 AM jthornton: it's cedar siding held on with no split ring shank nails so each nail must be cut off
11:26 AM perry_j1987: give the neighbors a show :)
11:27 AM jthornton: neighbors can't see my house for the forest lol
11:27 AM perry_j1987: well i guess you can do it the "normal way" than
11:27 AM perry_j1987: then
11:28 AM jthornton: tried to remove the bad couple of feet but quickly ran out of spare cedar so I gave up on repairing and going back with some smart siding
11:28 AM jthornton: that will almost match the cedar when the house is all painted up again
11:29 AM jthornton: lunch minute is over so time to bush hog the yard
11:30 AM perry_j1987: have fun
11:30 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop sounds like you're having a ball
11:34 AM JT-Shop: yea I didn't it was possible to have this much fun
11:35 AM Tom_L: been slow around here
11:35 AM Tom_L: do they even still use ring shank nails?
11:35 AM Tom_L: may as well drive em on out the other side :)
11:37 AM JT-Shop: yea the no split nails for cedar siding is galv ring shank
11:38 AM Tom_L: the old wood in this house just bends modern day nails
11:41 AM Loetmichel: whats a ring shank nail?
11:41 AM Tom_L: https://www.bestmaterials.com/images2/ARS-112-large.jpg
11:41 AM Tom_L: feel blessed you don't know
11:42 AM Tom_L: likea 1 way fish hook
11:44 AM Loetmichel: ah, "ankern├Ągel" in german
11:44 AM Loetmichel: i know these
11:44 AM Loetmichel: its like a pine cone
11:44 AM Loetmichel: goes in, never comes out.
11:46 AM perry_j1987: took out garbage yesterday and someone put one of these by the dumpster https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/d121f084-92a9-4450-914c-9fb5d6fee1fb_1.23f9e0b5a768f0bd4b789a1c437ddf23.jpeg?odnWidth=undefined&odnHeight=undefined&odnBg=ffffff new stickers still on it heh
11:47 AM perry_j1987: it raises really high and its now making a nice rolling standing desk for the laptop around the shop
02:43 PM CaptHindsight: found some 8K rpm .5Hp servos for practically free, seems a shame to use them on a slow moving high accuracy application
03:10 PM Deejay: gn8
06:05 PM hazzy: hello
06:05 PM jthornton: hey
06:06 PM Valen: I know it's not quite the right place but I figure you guys would be good to ask. Got a friend who is going to wind up with a grbl based machine. I was after feedback on gcode senders. The friend will probably wind up with linuxcnc in the future so something that feels similar might be nice
06:12 PM hazzy: Valen: Checket 109JBs GRBL interface, I havent used GRBL in a few years, but at the time I thought it was the best
06:12 PM hazzy: *checkout
06:12 PM Valen: hazzy: thanks
06:13 PM jthornton: hazzy: are you still in DFW?
06:14 PM hazzy: jthornton: yep, in durant OK installing and training
06:14 PM Valen: looks like there's only ever been one release of that hazzy
06:14 PM hazzy: having problems with the hydraulic system, got me beat
06:14 PM jthornton: I hate when that happens
06:15 PM jthornton: I have to remove the cedar siding from 4 walls of my house and replace them with smart side siding
06:16 PM hazzy: of the valces for the d axis is makeing a bunch of noise, at first I thought it was air in the system but now I'm not so sure since bleading it does not help
06:17 PM hazzy: https://youtu.be/GuDRTA30rEM
06:17 PM jthornton: that can be frustrating when your not sure what the problem is... I run into that a lot trying to diagnose strange systems
06:18 PM jthornton: sounds like it's chattering
06:19 PM hazzy: its a brand new machine, but I spend half the day yesterday trying to get the control panel wired up, turned out the wiring from the factory was ALL wrong lol
06:19 PM hazzy: them germans drinking too much beer :D
06:19 PM mozmck: hazzy: what are you installing?
06:19 PM hazzy: yeah, I think the solenoid might be switching on and off, maybe a voltage problem
06:19 PM jthornton: dang
06:20 PM jthornton: yea if you had wiring issues that would be the first place I'd look
06:20 PM jthornton: like if it's a DC valve getting AC you know
06:21 PM hazzy: mozmck: a sheetmetal folding machine, similar to this one: https://youtu.be/7x5BQclf3Yo
06:21 PM hazzy: jthornton: that is exactly what it sounds like, but it is intermitant
06:21 PM mozmck: neat! I live about 50 minutes from Durant
06:21 PM jthornton: hazzy: that makes it more challenging then
06:22 PM hazzy: mozmck: Nice! I always wondered what part of the world you were in
06:22 PM mozmck: about 20 minutes south east of Sherman, TX
06:23 PM hazzy: drove right thru sherman
06:23 PM hazzy: Was in paris last few weeks
06:23 PM hazzy: installed several machines at various trailer companies there
06:24 PM mozmck: huh, I'm planning on moving about 45 minutes south of paris soonish.
06:24 PM hazzy: paris TX lol
06:24 PM mozmck: Ah, PJ one of them?
06:25 PM _unreal_: hum
06:25 PM mozmck: yep, I know - paris, naples, omaha, pittsburg, atlanta, greenville, athens, palestine, and probably others are all within about a 2 hour radius.
06:25 PM hazzy: yep, almost all of them in that area got one of our folders withing a few weeks of eachother, like it was some sort of competition lol
06:26 PM mozmck: interesting. what brand of folders?
06:26 PM jthornton: nice for your company
06:26 PM mozmck: Mt Pleasant has a lot of trailer companies as well - did you install any there?
06:27 PM mozmck: supper - bbl
06:29 PM hazzy: mozmck: Schroeder, we are the sole distributor in the US, they are nice machines: https://www.metalforming-usa.com/precision-folding/
06:29 PM hazzy: ttl
06:32 PM jthornton: do they have one at Rice Trailers in Poplar Bluff?
06:36 PM _unreal_: ARG...
06:37 PM _unreal_: I have this controller board came with some big ass motors. wish I knew if I could use this with any other software. the company that made it seems to have dropped support for it. http://www.variometrum.com/PDF/USBCNC_csatolo_ENG.pdf
06:37 PM _unreal_: My home machine I'm toying with using this controller OR going with an arduino/grbl setup.
06:37 PM _unreal_: the big machine I'm building is pure linuxcnc
06:38 PM hazzy: jthornton: not sure, I'll check the database
06:40 PM jthornton: they are a big trailer fabricator here in PB, powder coat trailers on an assembly line!
06:42 PM hazzy: Nice! I was surprised at how hi tech some of them are, load trail has a fully automated sandblasting and powdercoating line. and some automated welding and assy for the smaller trailers
06:43 PM hazzy: then some of the other manufacturers are unbeleivably low tech
06:54 PM jthornton: yea they have some in Sikeston that are low tech
06:55 PM jthornton: a young engineer went to work at Rice and got them up in the tech area over the last few years
08:10 PM perry_j1987: so whats this i hear? if you use one of those mesa boards you can use pathpilot from tormach interface for linuxcnc?
08:47 PM perry_j1987: evening all
08:50 PM _unreal_: 1987?
08:59 PM perry_j1987: a good year for cars
08:59 PM _unreal_: ahh huh
09:41 PM Valen: Just wanting to run a new setup past the group, small 3 axis gantry (one stepper with a belt for the long side) machine (like 300mm cube size)
09:42 PM Valen: thinking 6i24 + 2x 7i32 + a 7i37
09:42 PM Valen: pcw_home: think all that should play nice?
09:42 PM Valen: or anybody else for that matter
09:45 PM Tom_L: that's pcie right?
09:51 PM Valen: yeah
09:52 PM Tom_L: what's a 32?
09:52 PM Tom_L: 37 is a breakout isn't it?
09:52 PM Valen: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=143
09:52 PM Valen: dual stepper driver
09:52 PM Tom_L: huh
09:52 PM Valen: yeah 37 is 8 out 16 input isolated io
09:53 PM Tom_L: no reason that shouldn't work
09:53 PM Tom_L: will the 6i24 plug into the 32?
09:53 PM Tom_L: isn't it 25 pin?
09:53 PM Tom_L: x2
09:53 PM Valen: " They connect to the motion controller card with a 50 conductor flat cable" it says
09:54 PM Tom_L: right but what about teh 6i24
09:54 PM Tom_L: what pinout is it?
09:54 PM Tom_L: i don't remember
09:54 PM Valen: 5i24 compatible
09:54 PM Valen: 50 pin
09:54 PM Tom_L: ahh ok then
09:55 PM Tom_L: the 6i25 5i25 is the 25 pin iirc
09:55 PM Valen: think you might be right
09:55 PM Valen: that's the parrallel port one I think
09:55 PM Tom_L: i've got one of those but i don't remember which one
09:55 PM Tom_L: maybe the 6i24
09:56 PM Valen: 6i25 seems to be the short one
09:57 PM Tom_L: what os?
09:57 PM Valen: that's going to be the question a bit I guess lol
09:57 PM Valen: with mesa current debian will probably do the job I guess, shame about the RTAI
09:57 PM Tom_L: i started to try lbuntu on my old d525 but haven't actually hooked it to a machine
09:58 PM Tom_L: looks like it might work
09:58 PM Valen: could run the old one I guess, think it matters much?
09:58 PM Tom_L: no
09:58 PM Tom_L: i'm using wheezy with 2.7
09:59 PM Tom_L: andy just posted a new iso for it with 2.7.14 on it
09:59 PM Tom_L: pci/pcie is gonna be the fastest interface i believe
10:00 PM Valen: wheezy is out of support, it'll be using RTAI though i think?
10:01 PM Tom_L: yes on both counts
10:01 PM Valen: anything else you need rtlinux which is much worse for latency
10:01 PM Tom_L: that's why i wanted to try lbuntu
10:01 PM Tom_L: it's running preempt-rt
10:01 PM Valen: that's the one
10:01 PM Tom_L: and looks like it may work ok on my D525
10:02 PM Tom_L: http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/lubuntu18-emc.html
10:02 PM Tom_L: then i built linuxcnc
10:02 PM Tom_L: he's got instructions for both there
10:02 PM Tom_L: http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/lubuntu18-rt.html
10:03 PM Tom_L: actually meant to post that one
10:03 PM Tom_L: but both apply
10:03 PM Tom_L: took all night to build on the d525
10:04 PM Tom_L: jt's done a fine job of putting all those instructions up there
10:24 PM Valen: what's the difference between the 6i24-16 and 6i24-25 other than $50?
10:24 PM Tom_L: fpga size
10:24 PM Tom_L: pretty sure anyway
10:24 PM Valen: would make sense
10:24 PM Valen: don't think hostmot uses much FPGA
10:25 PM Tom_L: i doubt you need the 25
10:25 PM Tom_L: you could ask him
10:25 PM Valen: yeah slightly different fpga
10:25 PM Tom_L: at least not for what you're doing
10:26 PM Valen: do you happen to have a link to the bitfiles?
10:26 PM Tom_L: most of them are on the store page
10:26 PM Tom_L: iirc the 6ixx 5ixx use the same set
10:27 PM Valen: I think they can
10:27 PM Tom_L: unless something's changed
10:28 PM Tom_L: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=301&search=6i24
10:29 PM Tom_L: hmm 404 on that
10:29 PM Tom_L: http://store.mesanet.com/index.php?route=product/product&product_id=297&search=5i24
10:29 PM Tom_L: it's there
10:30 PM Tom_L: make sure it's build for the right chip
10:31 PM Tom_L: gotta get up early... ttyl
10:33 PM Valen: thanks Tom_L ;-)