May 28 2019
02:47 AM CaptHindsight: anyone have LCNC working on Debian Sid?
02:52 AM CaptHindsight: Debian Stretch/Devuan 2 ascii has too old of a kernel for hardware we want to use
03:03 AM CaptHindsight: https://github.com/machinekit/machinekit/issues/1323
03:03 AM CaptHindsight: ^^ applies to LCNC
03:03 AM CaptHindsight: With the deprecation of python-gtksourceview2, gladevcp will not build its viewer widgets and the adoption of gtk3, glade3 and python3(.6) is likely to kill it off completely.
03:36 AM x2s: CaptHindsight: I've got it running on unstable, but had to compile the packages myself
03:36 AM x2s: eh, testing
03:36 AM x2s: but unstable will be the same
03:37 AM x2s: don't know if there are some official packages et
03:37 AM x2s: *yt
04:04 AM drzacek: you can use backports to install newer versions of packages on debian stretch
05:13 AM Tom_L: morning
05:16 AM jthornton: morning
05:57 AM perry_j1987: morning
06:19 AM pingufan: good afternoon. :D
09:51 AM Deejay: hi
10:17 AM gregcnc: another kickstarter is dying but this time it's tariffs https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1260359869/swissmak-the-mill-turn-center-for-your-machine-sho/posts/2512698
10:42 AM pink_vampire: hi
10:47 AM perry_j1987: o/
10:48 AM pink_vampire: hi perry_j1987
12:48 PM CaptHindsight: gregcnc: well they also didn't add enough profit margin to the project
12:48 PM CaptHindsight: that is what kills many projects
12:48 PM gregcnc: that was the inital consensus
12:49 PM CaptHindsight: at the same time many open source advocates feel that profit margins over 20% are immoral
12:49 PM gregcnc: seems odd it took this long to figure it out
12:50 PM gregcnc: Musk hyperloop is now a a paved tunnel...
12:51 PM CaptHindsight: gregcnc: the update in March said that "Finished with most major components"
12:51 PM CaptHindsight: finished meaning?
12:52 PM CaptHindsight: waiting for an excuse not to finish the project?
12:52 PM gregcnc: right which makes one of the comments on practical machinist stand out. maybe he got tired of working for free
12:53 PM CaptHindsight: do the recent tariffs cover machine parts?
12:53 PM gregcnc: to some extent
01:07 PM CaptHindsight: my 500W LED's came in from China marked "electronical components"
01:15 PM Tom_L: they try
01:16 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.antekinc.com/power-supplies/ wider range of unregulated supplies than Automation tech
01:21 PM JT-Shop: what resistors are needed for the THCAD-10?
01:22 PM * JT-Shop uses antek power supplies
01:36 PM Lee-: I just read about that kickstarter that's claiming to be having trouble due to the tariffs. They were selling a 5 axis machine for $3999? I mean I know the tariffs caused this cost to increase, but that seems like a really low price to me.
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: Lee-: no profit, all aluminum even the linear bearings
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: so not very durable
01:44 PM CaptHindsight: Lee-: another low cost 5-axis machine https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/entry-level-machine-cnc-router/hy-3040/
01:45 PM Lee-: I see. I'm still trying to find a way to cut steel reliably. I just haven't had much luck finding a reliable and low cost 5 axis machine. Closest I've found that I thought would be acceptable was ~$12k.
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: Lee-: what work volume? and how fast do you need to remove material? used vs new?
01:49 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Matsuura-MC-1000-VX-vertical-milling-center-55-table/201871869576 $4300 + 4th and 5th axis and conversion/moving costs
01:49 PM Lee-: Not for commercial use. I'm fine with a part taking a really long time (as long as it can operate unattended). Because this is more of a hobby thing, production rates aren't that important. New vs used doesn't really matter (provided it's either cheap enough that I can replace the electronics+motors or is in good condition). I'm looking for something roughly $5k, but not had much luck.
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: how big?
01:55 PM Lee-: A part size of up to 8" x 6" x 2" would probably be fine, but would like to go bigger just in case maybe upwards of 20" x 12" x 4". I was thinking it's probably much cheaper to buy a manually operated CNC machine like a grizzly brand and add motors for CNC control, but haven't gone down that rabbit hole very far.
01:56 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Haas-HS-1RP-Horizontal-5-Axis-Ready-CNC-Mill-For-Sale/233222453874
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: hah $5k https://www.ebay.com/itm/Sharnoa-SDC-20-5-Axis-CNC-Sharnoa-Machining-Center/283438582391
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: Item location: Livingston, New Jersey,
02:02 PM elmo40: CaptHindsight, you going on a road trip?
02:02 PM elmo40: good price for a 5-axis mill.
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: elmo40: no, just looking for Lee-
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: " I'm looking for something roughly $5k, but not had much luck."
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: i have to get LCNC going with a kernel, mesa, drm etc going on gpu's to support two independent 4K displays
02:10 PM Lee-: Yeah, but I'm thinking roughly $5k is going to include making it function. That NJ machine auction description is worded in such a way that I'm not too confident it would actually work as is. Also that machine is a bit larger than I have a place for. I was looking at the Tormach machines, but they're roughly $15k and at that price point I believe are 4 axis. They seem much smaller than a lot of the used machines I've come across.
02:11 PM CaptHindsight: Lee-: you will likely have to build it yourself with that budget
02:11 PM CaptHindsight: with real deals or found components
02:12 PM elmo40: homebrew foundry.
02:13 PM elmo40: just need a machine to mill the castings...
02:13 PM Lee-: I tried looking for plans for CNC mills, but most of them are only good for wood / soft metals. Even the ones that claim they can cut metal, the spindles seem to have very little structure around them / I think they'd break or bend easily.
02:13 PM elmo40: ahh, the joys of wanting your own.
02:14 PM CaptHindsight: Lee-: Tormach vs that Sharona, the Toramch is not nearly as rigid
02:14 PM CaptHindsight: look at the travels
02:15 PM CaptHindsight: in many years of searching that Sharona is the closest I've seen to $0 for what you get
02:17 PM CaptHindsight: I could build one out of polymer granite/concrete smaller for less
02:21 PM CaptHindsight: forum.linuxcnc.org is down
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: oh back now
02:45 PM Deejay: gn8
02:52 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dRJMk4hkUvY voice sounds familiar
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: Linear encoders on stepper motor CNC milling machine. Part 15 The verdict
04:09 PM elmo40: nice video.
04:12 PM elmo40: the conclusion:the backlash is from the tight backlash nut?
04:13 PM gregcnc: clearance in the nu/screw bearings
04:15 PM elmo40: as for the opinion on the closed loop steppers, it is all up to the controller as to what they do about the missed steps. wait to get there or cause alarm or surge power to keep up or do nothing.
05:17 PM andypugh: jthornton: What the world needs now is an ISO of Mint + Preempt-RT + Plasmac :-)
05:31 PM JT-Shop: andypugh: I don't even know what Plasmac does lol
05:32 PM andypugh: Plasma config.
05:32 PM andypugh: (I thought you were in to Plasm)
05:33 PM JT-Shop: I have a plasma cutter yes, still don't know what Plasmac brings to the table
05:34 PM JT-Shop: here is my plasma gui https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apel2BgdFw8 showing part nesting
05:38 PM jthornton: andypugh: having any luck with RTAI on a newer OS?
05:39 PM andypugh: jthornton: I have been doing Other Things. Mainly struggling with magnetos. https://photos.app.goo.gl/pxsjPfmQ816W8qJv9
05:40 PM jthornton: the fire truck?
05:41 PM pcw_mesa: Isn't plasmac a component?
05:42 PM jthornton: I think so, but not sure what it does
05:43 PM pcw_mesa: it encapsulate a lot of plasma height control/corner locking/ohmic-probing stuff
05:44 PM jthornton: ah, sounds complicated
05:44 PM jthornton: IIRC it does both voltage feedback and up down inputs too
05:45 PM pcw_mesa: Yeah that guy has been pounding at it for quite a while
05:45 PM jthornton: starting to get tomatoes on my Arkansas Travelers
05:46 PM andypugh: It has become much more than a component. It now oncorporates reverse-run and its own GUI, with kerf-crossing and THC
05:47 PM jthornton: so it is in the reverse-run branch?
05:48 PM CaptHindsight: pcw_mesa: will have time to test the xy100 soon
05:48 PM pcw_mesa: I dont think any of it has been pushed
05:49 PM CaptHindsight: andypugh: got LCNC working with Devuan 2ascii and prempt_rt in about 20 minutes from blank HD
05:49 PM CaptHindsight: Devuan 2 is systemD-less Jessie
05:49 PM pcw_mesa: no driver support on XY2-100 yet but should be pokeable with the rawread/raw write
05:50 PM CaptHindsight: pcw_mesa: how were you thinking of using the XY100? what IO card?
05:50 PM CaptHindsight: what/which
05:51 PM pcw_mesa: its looks like a stepgen register wise ( but has an added acceleration register)
05:51 PM pcw_mesa: shouldl work on any
05:53 PM CaptHindsight: pcw_mesa: getting some high UV output 4K projectors working right now, will move to galvo versions after these
05:53 PM pcw_mesa: my test was on a 7I96 (2 of 5 step/dir channels stolen for differential X,Y,CLK,SYNC, encoder index stolen for differential STATUS)
05:55 PM pcw_mesa: currently fixed at 16 bits, there are 18 bit versions so will parameterize later
05:57 PM pcw_mesa: jthornton: we have little beans on our Scarlet runners, though we lost some squash plants to hail
05:59 PM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/AVhPvmm 500W UV LED
06:00 PM pcw_mesa: wow, that will fry your eyes pretty quick...
06:02 PM CaptHindsight: will get 5.0.14-rt9 working on Debian Sid later today
06:03 PM CaptHindsight: tanning
06:03 PM andypugh: Good for exposing Screen print or PCB
06:03 PM CaptHindsight: andypugh: they are going into SLA printers like your friends
06:03 PM CaptHindsight: only with 4K projectors
06:04 PM andypugh: Yes, I could see that working well.
06:04 PM CaptHindsight: with all the newer Mesa, drm etc for dull 3d accel
06:04 PM andypugh: (Incidentally, he has completely decomisioned that printer and wants to use the parts t make a lathe0
06:04 PM CaptHindsight: oh noes
06:05 PM CaptHindsight: dull/full
06:05 PM CaptHindsight: 5.0.14-rt9 should work with Jessie only the 3d accell stuff is only for older cards in Jessie
06:06 PM CaptHindsight: which hardly anyone uses with LCNC
06:06 PM perry_j1987: pink_vampire ya this little 3 inch vise when tightened makes the parallels loose heh does that happen on yours too? :P
06:08 PM CaptHindsight: anyone know if Debian Buster still works with LCNC?
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: ArcEye had mentioned "With the deprecation of python-gtksourceview2, gladevcp will not build its viewer widgets and the adoption of gtk3, glade3 and python3(.6) is likely to kill it off completely."
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: but then that didn't happen or effect LCNC
06:33 PM pink_vampire: perry_j1987: no
06:33 PM pink_vampire: can you take a pic pf the issue?
06:35 PM jthornton: perry_j1987: the jaws are tilting and lifting up the part, if you have a plastic tip hammer you can tap the part down as you tighten
06:36 PM jthornton: also check the gib under the vise to make sure it's not loose
06:38 PM perry_j1987: tried small deadblow
06:38 PM perry_j1987: no effect
06:38 PM perry_j1987: i watched some vids on these style vises and it does not appear to be loose
06:39 PM perry_j1987: i havnt played with the center setscrew yet though
06:39 PM jthornton: it's a bit of an art when to strike the part down and if the vise is too bad it does not work
06:39 PM perry_j1987: this is a tiny 3 inch milling vise off amazon btw
06:39 PM jthornton: just as you start to tighten tap down lightly then tighten a bit more and tap again
06:39 PM jthornton: oh is the stock square?
06:40 PM jthornton: stock that is not square will ride up to the parallel sides as you tighten and no hammer will force it down
06:40 PM jthornton: got a link to that vise?
06:42 PM Tom_L: my cheap little sherline vise did that but i was aware of it
06:42 PM Tom_L: the jaws pull up off the base
06:43 PM Tom_L: 12.5" rain this month
06:43 PM jthornton: well I can convert from a julian day number to time lol
06:43 PM Tom_L: tennis ball size hail possible tonight
06:43 PM Tom_L: you are making stides jt
06:43 PM jthornton: holy crap
06:44 PM Tom_L: they started out by saying softball size
06:44 PM jthornton: putzing around with chicken door programming and calculating sunrise and sunset from lat/lon location and date
06:44 PM Tom_L: 2nd wettest May since 1888
06:45 PM jthornton: been pretty wet here too
06:45 PM Tom_L: towns are being evacuated in places
06:45 PM jthornton: sw mo is really wet, the mo river is over flowing in places
06:47 PM perry_j1987: https://amzn.to/2QuICTU this one jthornton
06:48 PM perry_j1987: ah ya i was just clamping on raw sides of square bar stuff
06:48 PM perry_j1987: maybe thats why it lifted up
06:48 PM perry_j1987: i'll have to try squaring all the sides up and testing then eh? :)
06:49 PM perry_j1987: dont own a 123 block or anything to test with heh
06:49 PM Tom_L: a good vise won't lift
06:50 PM Tom_L: i opted for a 4" shars
06:50 PM Tom_L: kurt would be a better choice but it's a hobby...
06:52 PM jthornton: I don't have any kurt vises
06:52 PM andypugh: I have one. YOu can have it for free. If you collect
06:53 PM Tom_L: i don't either but they are the choice among machine shops
06:53 PM andypugh: The one I have has no jaws and is massively too big for my machine.
06:53 PM Tom_L: yeah, my friend offered me one free as well but it wouldn't fit
06:54 PM jthornton: perry_j1987: looks ok, just check the adjustment screw in the back of the movable jaw and it may be a double screw
06:54 PM perry_j1987: sounds like handmydown clothes heh you gotta grow into your free vise with a new bigger mill :)
06:54 PM Tom_L: you may be able to snug it up some
06:55 PM jthornton: pretty cheap for a vise
06:55 PM andypugh: I am actually perfectly happy with these relatively cheap things: https://www.arceurotrade.co.uk/Catalogue/Workholding/Machine-Vices/Precision-Tool-Vices-Type-2
06:55 PM perry_j1987: i just clamped it on a piece of rawstock and did not see any appreciable lift
06:55 PM perry_j1987: still looks tight to the base across the whole jaw
06:55 PM andypugh: (That style pulls diagonally for matched down + clamp.
06:55 PM jthornton: I use these https://www.glacern.com/vises
06:56 PM andypugh: Just a cap=haed screw to clamp with, but works well.
06:56 PM Tom_L: https://www.shars.com/products/workholding/vise/4-440v-cnc-milling-machine-vise-0-0004-1
06:56 PM Tom_L: been quite happy with that one so far
06:56 PM jthornton: yea machine tool vises do work better than regular vises from that standpoint
06:58 PM jthornton: that looks similar to the other link perry_j1987 posted
06:58 PM jthornton: but $79 with a swivel base you know it's got to be crappy
06:59 PM Tom_L: i looked at those briefly
06:59 PM Tom_L: and decided the same thing
06:59 PM Tom_L: ok, this day's thunder is starting up
06:59 PM perry_j1987: im new to all this but i do have to say for 79 this thing is pretty nice fit and finish
06:59 PM jthornton: take cover
07:00 PM Tom_L: this is a storm watcher state :D
07:00 PM perry_j1987: i mean it looks ok and put indicator on fixed jaw and swept it in and its clamping stuff
07:00 PM Tom_L: no common sense
07:00 PM Tom_L: perry_j1987, i'm sure it's fine for the price
07:01 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Assembly/Final/Vise_parts/Speedhandle2.jpg
07:01 PM Tom_L: now you need to make one of those for it
07:02 PM perry_j1987: im still basking in the glory of a "real" vise lol
07:02 PM jthornton: I have some aluminum ones they were pretty cheap
07:02 PM perry_j1987: its still "fun" turning the stock handle lol
07:02 PM jthornton: nice machining on that Tom_L
07:03 PM Tom_L: thanks
07:03 PM Tom_L: all one program
07:04 PM Tom_L: it's nice not to have to touch off one tool at a time
07:05 PM Tom_L: i had to do that alot on the sherline
07:07 PM jthornton: chow time here
07:28 PM roycroft: perry_j1987 that vise will work out ok, but it's not going to be near as precise as a high end one like a kurt
07:28 PM roycroft: if you spend some time with your favorite search engine you'll find a lot of mods and improvements that folks have done to imported vises
07:28 PM roycroft: and you can tighten it up quite a bit
07:29 PM roycroft: don't expect to hold 0.001" with one of those though
07:33 PM lanclanterns: I've got a linuxcnc problem I'm trying to solve
07:34 PM lanclanterns: I've got linuxcnc 2.8 compiled and working
07:34 PM lanclanterns: and talking to a 7I92 + 7I77 + 7I84
07:35 PM lanclanterns: everything works but the 7i84
07:35 PM lanclanterns: the 7I84 does not appear to be detected or respond
07:36 PM lanclanterns: It just sits there with the red Field power LED on red
07:36 PM lanclanterns: there is 24V on the Field power according to my multimeter
07:37 PM Tom_L: right ip address?
07:37 PM lanclanterns: the RS-422 power LED is yellow
07:37 PM Tom_L: err is the 84 ethernet?
07:37 PM Tom_L: sserial
07:37 PM Tom_L: on the right serial line?
07:38 PM lanclanterns: the 7I77 works, with the LED blinking a steady 1Hz green
07:38 PM lanclanterns: lemme look at the serial line
07:38 PM Tom_L: look at the config for the card in the ini if there is one
07:39 PM Tom_L: make sure it's the way it's supposed to be
07:43 PM lanclanterns: there's nothing about a 7I84 in the ini file
07:43 PM lanclanterns: I made the config with pncconf
07:47 PM lanclanterns: @tom_l I just checked, there's nothing about a 7i84 in the hal fil or the ini
07:48 PM lanclanterns: how do I manually select a serial port for a card?
07:52 PM lanclanterns: The 7i84 doesn't show up in halcmd either, the 7i92 + 7i77 are visible, but not the 7i84
07:53 PM Tom_L: it's been a while since i messed with sserial...
07:54 PM lanclanterns: Is there a way to ping sserial?
07:54 PM lanclanterns: or does the hostmot2 component autoprobe?
07:55 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/sherline.ini
07:55 PM Tom_L: notice the config line at the top
07:55 PM Tom_L: defines the sserial port
07:56 PM Tom_L: you may need something like that in yours, i'm not entirely sure
07:58 PM Tom_L: lanclanterns you had this config working in 2.7?
07:58 PM Tom_L: err no, you said you just compiled it
07:58 PM lanclanterns: no, I did not have this working before - it's a new installation
07:59 PM Tom_L: you might run it by pcw_home
07:59 PM Tom_L: he can tell you what to add there. i dunno what bit file you have loaded on your card
08:00 PM lanclanterns: Lemme check on the bit file
08:01 PM lanclanterns: aside from that, I have a hostmot2 section in my ini file that's labeled for informational purposes only
08:02 PM Tom_L: i haven't looked over the 2.8 config file that closely yet
08:02 PM Tom_L: i've been running 2.7
08:02 PM Tom_L: probably not alot of change
08:04 PM Tom_L: if you do a dmesg, i'm not sure if sserial shows up there or not but you could look
08:07 PM lanclanterns: dmesg doesn't seem to show anything
08:08 PM lanclanterns: running mesaflash gives me some info
08:08 PM Tom_L: yeah
08:08 PM lanclanterns: looks like I have the 7i77x2d bitfile in the 7i92
08:08 PM Tom_L: my guess is you need to find the sserial pins
08:08 PM Tom_L: or add something to the config
08:09 PM lanclanterns: it would seem that way
08:09 PM Tom_L: pcw_home can get you goin i'm sure
08:09 PM Tom_L: iirc it's 6pm his time
08:10 PM roycroft: is he in cali?
08:11 PM * roycroft thought he was somewhere in mountain time for some reason
08:11 PM Tom_L: yes
08:11 PM roycroft: then it's just after 6
08:13 PM lanclanterns: I am seeing something interesting - in the 7i92 debug printout (whenlinuxcnc starts) it only shows 2 serial ports
08:14 PM lanclanterns: does anyone know what's in that 7i92 firmware?
08:18 PM lanclanterns: or is there a way to enable the sserial port? I already did this.
08:18 PM lanclanterns: loadrt hm2_eth board_ip="192.168.1.121" config=" num_encoders=6 num_pwmgens=0 num_stepgens=0 sserial_port_0=000xxx"
08:20 PM Tom_L: yeah but i forget
08:20 PM Tom_L: try sserial_port_0=20xxxxxx
08:20 PM Tom_L: or 22xxxxxx
08:21 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/drivers/hostmot2.html#_sserial_configuration
08:25 PM lanclanterns: @Tom_L Correct me if I'm wrong - isn't the correct way to enable the sserial port is to replace the x with the mode?
08:25 PM Tom_L: the first 2 numbers do that
08:26 PM lanclanterns: for example sserial_port_0=000xxx would enable the first 3 ports to mode 0?
08:26 PM Tom_L: the sserial function can support multiple ports that's why the 'xxx' are there
08:26 PM lanclanterns: ok, I see
08:26 PM Tom_L: the first 2 will be enough for what you're doing
08:26 PM Tom_L: may only need one of them
08:26 PM Tom_L: but it won't hurt anything
08:27 PM lanclanterns: ok, I'm trying that
08:27 PM lanclanterns: no joy
08:27 PM lanclanterns: results are the same
08:28 PM Tom_L: i'd wait for pcw_home, i'm a bit rusty on sserial
08:28 PM Tom_L: it's either the bitfile or the config in some way or maybe the physical wiring
08:32 PM lanclanterns: I suppose I could put an ocilloscope on the port and see if I'm getting anything
08:34 PM lanclanterns: it seems to me like a config issue or bitfile issue
08:42 PM Tom_L: ok i just checked and sserial does show up in dmesg if it's configured
08:43 PM Tom_itx: [ 5222.284426] hm2/hm2_7i43.0: IO Pin 012 (P4-25): Smart Serial Interface #0, pin RxData0 (Input)
08:43 PM Tom_L: different card but same idea
08:44 PM Tom_L: unless the ethernet cards report differently
08:48 PM lanclanterns: grepping my dmesg doesn't turn anything up in there
08:48 PM Tom_L: do a dmesg -c then run linuxcnc, then dmesg
08:48 PM Tom_L: -c will clear it
08:48 PM Tom_L: then all you have is the lcnc stuff mostly
08:50 PM lanclanterns: that cleared my dmesg all right, and linuxcnc didn't put anything on it again
08:51 PM Tom_L: it should put something there
08:51 PM Tom_L: otherwise it's not loading something
08:52 PM lanclanterns: yes
08:54 PM lanclanterns: is there a way to make it's output more verbose?
08:55 PM lanclanterns: because it powers up and everything works but the 7i84
08:55 PM Tom_L: probably
08:56 PM lanclanterns: ok, just sawthe verbose command in the manual
08:56 PM Tom_L: -v or -vvv iirc
08:56 PM Tom_L: but i forget where to use it it's been so long...
08:58 PM jthornton: it's sudo dmesg -c
08:58 PM lanclanterns: ok, I'm getting this
08:58 PM lanclanterns: hm2: loading Mesa HostMot2 driver version 0.15
08:58 PM lanclanterns: hm2_eth: loading Mesa AnyIO HostMot2 ethernet driver version 0.2
08:58 PM lanclanterns: hm2_eth: 192.168.1.121: Hardware address: 00:60:1b:13:02:65
08:58 PM lanclanterns: hm2_eth: discovered 7I92
08:58 PM lanclanterns: hm2/hm2_7i92.0: Smart Serial Firmware Version 43
08:58 PM lanclanterns: B
08:58 PM Tom_L: i haven't had to mess with a config in a good while jthornton :)
08:59 PM Tom_L: is the 192
08:59 PM Tom_L: address correct?
08:59 PM jthornton: just checking that the chicken doors are closed on camera
08:59 PM Tom_L: i thought pcw_home used 10.10.10.xx
08:59 PM lanclanterns: yes, and it communicates with the 7i77
09:00 PM Tom_L: you might consider changing that later
09:00 PM jthornton: yea if the jumper is set right the 7i92 is 10.10.10.10
09:00 PM Tom_L: so it doesn't interfere with anything else
09:00 PM lanclanterns: My setup is 7i92 + 7i77 + 7i84
09:00 PM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/uspace/index.html
09:00 PM lanclanterns: I believe that 10.10.10.10 is the setup? And the 192.168.1.121 is the default
09:01 PM jthornton: depends on the jumper setting
09:01 PM jthornton: where did you get the 7i92?
09:02 PM lanclanterns: from mesa electronics
09:02 PM lanclanterns: I can ping the 7i92 without a problem
09:02 PM Tom_L: i thought he shipped those with the 10 address
09:02 PM Tom_L: huh
09:03 PM jthornton: not seeing a 7i77 7i84 firmware for the 7i92
09:03 PM Tom_L: 84 is sserial
09:03 PM jthornton: dunno, I ship with the jumper set for 10.11.10.10
09:03 PM jthornton: oh that should be automagic then
09:04 PM jthornton: 10.10.10.10
09:04 PM jthornton: anyway the jumper setting is in the manual
09:05 PM lanclanterns: checking the manual again
09:10 PM lanclanterns: ok, yes, it ischanged with the jumper
09:11 PM lanclanterns: but I already have ethernet comm with the board. how will changing the ip help
09:11 PM lanclanterns: ?
09:12 PM Tom_L: it's just a good idea to keep it off 192.168
09:12 PM Tom_L: but it's up to you
09:13 PM Tom_L: if that's all you have on the network it shouldn't be a problem
09:17 PM lanclanterns: yes, you're right. I did put it on another network
09:19 PM lanclanterns: adding the line
09:19 PM lanclanterns: #net estop-ext <= hm2_7i92.0.7i84.0.2.input-00
09:20 PM lanclanterns: causes linuxcnc to error out, says it can't detect such a pin
09:23 PM lanclanterns: the cr6 led is lit, the cr7 led is not....
09:27 PM lanclanterns: it wouldn't be a bad 7i84?
09:30 PM Tom_L: i doubt it. it probably can't see the card yet
09:32 PM Tom_L: you get dmesg to show you the pins then you will know what pins to hook it to
09:33 PM lanclanterns: I am getting plenty of output, just not in dmesg
09:34 PM lanclanterns: I'm going to check the serial cable, too
09:34 PM Tom_L: tx rx could be backwards
09:42 PM lanclanterns: cable checks fine
09:42 PM lanclanterns: I don't understand why it doesn't spit anything into dmesg
09:43 PM lanclanterns: is there acompilation setting somewhere?
09:45 PM Tom_L: i've shared what i can remember
09:46 PM Tom_L: and my test pc isn't available right now
09:47 PM lanclanterns: thanks for your efforts, i do appreciate it
09:48 PM Tom_L: it's a small issue you will get
09:48 PM Tom_L: i'd ask pcw_home when he's around
09:50 PM Tom_L: he _is_ mesa
10:01 PM roycroft: jt is also a good resource, when he's about
11:04 PM pcw_home: uspace doesn't put anything in the kernel log
11:05 PM pcw_home: LinuxCNC uspace startup messages are printed on the console
11:06 PM pcw_home: (so start LinuxCNC from a terminal window if you want to see them)