#linuxcnc Logs

May 04 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:18 AM net|: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W_jcYga95aY
01:01 AM Deejay: moin
01:14 AM Loetmichel: Hmm, was that a good buy or a bad buy now? 2 used 512gb micron drives, 46 eur each: -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17361&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:13 AM XXCoder: wow!
02:13 AM XXCoder: what timing.
02:13 AM XXCoder: i finally have ovetime after months, and its same day they threw away very expensive light from one of machines.
02:13 AM XXCoder: i grabbed it!
02:14 AM XXCoder: its easily $100 or $200 one
02:14 AM XXCoder: but it kept breaking by chips hitting it. so maintance guy said fuk it and changed it to smaller light higher up out of way of chips
02:28 AM pink_vampire: ih
02:28 AM pink_vampire: hi*
02:28 AM XXCoder: hey pink
02:28 AM XXCoder: i got awesome light from work
02:28 AM pink_vampire: where can i find cable with 3 conductors inside?
02:29 AM XXCoder: maintance at work got tired of it breaking inside cnc machine by chips hitting it
02:29 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder: what do you mean?
02:29 AM XXCoder: so he was throwing it away, and i nabbed it :D
02:29 AM XXCoder: its very strong led light, in ip67 tube. tube is cracked but it dont matter
02:29 AM XXCoder: easily $100 to $200
02:29 AM XXCoder: i just need to rebuild it due to cut cables.
02:31 AM XXCoder: 3 conudctors that seems to be standard grounded cable
02:32 AM pink_vampire: ***5
02:32 AM pink_vampire: 2 coils and ground
02:33 AM XXCoder: local stores dont have em?
02:34 AM XXCoder: stores like lowes always have bunmch of cables
02:34 AM pink_vampire: mmmm let me see
02:39 AM pink_vampire: they have 4 or 6
03:11 AM gloops: might finally get to make some beehive frames today
03:11 AM XXCoder: nice
03:14 AM gloops: 1 more busy week then im definitely back on the cnc stuff, said that about 3 times this year already lol but this time it is it
03:24 AM XXCoder: nice
03:24 AM XXCoder: you setting beehives for honey?
03:25 AM XXCoder: my current project is fixing up formerly cnc light tube :D
03:26 AM XXCoder: its very strong light
03:26 AM Tom_L: pink_vampire any good extension cord with ground would have 3 conductors
03:26 AM XXCoder: it has warning tag on it to not look at it lol
03:26 AM gloops: light tube - whats that for?
03:26 AM XXCoder: it was robo cnc machine interior light
03:26 AM XXCoder: but it kept breaking tube by chips hitting it
03:27 AM XXCoder: Tom_L: hmm theres also usually "extension wire" at stores also
03:27 AM XXCoder: for you to buy and make custom sized extension cable
03:29 AM Tom_L: no not me, her
03:29 AM XXCoder: i know I was using "you" in more general way
03:29 AM Tom_L: i figured she'd already have a cord if she needed it right away
03:29 AM XXCoder: ie anyone can buy em and make extension cables
03:30 AM XXCoder: i probably need to buy large extension cable to convert this light to plug type.
03:30 AM XXCoder: its 240v but 120v will work just fine, since mainatance guy also converted one of those tube lughts into plug type to keep outside machine.
03:52 AM XXCoder: ...
03:52 AM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/R-axis-90-90-RS90-precision-displacement-platform-RS90-L-rotary-fine-tuning-slide-load-29/32958530959.html
03:52 AM XXCoder: this is new
04:23 AM pink_vampire: look like copy of thorlabs
04:23 AM XXCoder: gloops: extracted led tube
04:23 AM XXCoder: amazing
04:23 AM XXCoder: im not sure if i can find and buy tube enclosure for it tho hm,
04:23 AM XXCoder: 4.5 cm od
04:25 AM XXCoder: https://www.theplasticshop.co.uk/acrylic-tube-extruded-clear-45mm-od-to-60mm-od.html nice
04:34 AM XXCoder: gloops: https://shop.rasmachinetool.com/Jarrer-Ultra-LED-Flat-Light-Series-JFL-WH20W-p/jfl-wh20w-ac100-240v.htm
04:38 AM XXCoder: pink_vampire: did you see the link?
04:39 AM pink_vampire: this https://shop.rasmachinetool.com/Jarrer-Ultra-LED-Flat-Light-Series-JFL-WH20W-p/jfl-wh20w-ac100-240v.htm?
04:39 AM XXCoder: yeah thats one i got for free
04:39 AM XXCoder: though interesting enough tube is not orginial glass type
04:39 AM pink_vampire: cool!!!!
04:39 AM XXCoder: ill just repair it
04:40 AM pink_vampire: what is the problem with it?
04:40 AM XXCoder: plastic tube broke again
04:40 AM pink_vampire: how?
04:40 AM XXCoder: and guy said screw it threw it away
04:40 AM XXCoder: coolant i guess and chips. its very corrosive to cheap plastic
04:41 AM pink_vampire: 225$.. it is not cheap
04:41 AM XXCoder: it is to company heh
04:41 AM XXCoder: he replaced it with more standard interior cnc light
04:41 AM pink_vampire: i need M8 tap that push the chips up
04:42 AM XXCoder: look for "machine taps"
04:42 AM XXCoder: those is made for cnc machines
04:50 AM XXCoder: parts cleaned up well :)
04:50 AM XXCoder: the wire in rubber seal end seems to be already broke tho :(
04:51 AM XXCoder: eh dont matter if i dont plan to leave it out in rain or something
05:04 AM jthornton: morning
05:05 AM XXCoder: hey jt
05:05 AM XXCoder: i got one of https://shop.rasmachinetool.com/Jarrer-Ultra-LED-Flat-Light-Series-JFL-WH20W-p/jfl-wh20w-ac100-240v.htm from work :D
05:06 AM jthornton: waterproof?
05:07 AM XXCoder: ip67 yeah though right now its ip00 due to no tube (broken) and one of rubber ends having a hole
05:10 AM XXCoder: the broken tube is clearly not orginal.
05:10 AM XXCoder: real tube is real glass.
05:11 AM jthornton: hmm the chicken door started working again, I'm surprised it went down as it's been broken for a couple of weeks
05:16 AM XXCoder: weird
05:17 AM XXCoder: wonder if theres code issue for those 2 weeks
05:19 AM jthornton: I suspected the motor was kaput but dunno now
05:23 AM jthornton: it was going part way down/up before it stopped working
05:24 AM XXCoder: oh thats weird
05:36 AM jthornton: yea we'll see if it come up in a bit lol
05:37 AM jthornton: pink_vampire: that is a spiral flute tap
05:53 AM pink_vampire: https://www.ebay.com/itm/222434105567
05:53 AM pink_vampire: what are those taps??
06:08 AM XXCoder: hand tap looks like
06:08 AM XXCoder: machine taps tend to have stright flutes
06:08 AM XXCoder: actually not always hm
06:09 AM XXCoder: in any case machine tap always say its for machines. lathe, mill or whatever
06:10 AM jthornton: spiral point are for through holes and spiral flute for blind holes as they pull the chips up and out
06:10 AM XXCoder: isnt latter tend to have flat bottom as its better for threading closer to bottom?
06:10 AM jthornton: yea
06:11 AM jthornton: http://www.osgtool.com/Product-List/Threading/Spiral%20Flute
06:11 AM jthornton: http://www.osgtool.com/Product-List/Threading/Spiral%20Point
06:11 AM jthornton: the door opened all the way!
06:12 AM XXCoder: wow
06:12 AM gloops: damn stuck nut thing
06:12 AM gloops: 30mm locking nut stuck, means of locking spindle a pissy 8mm hole for a bar
06:13 AM gloops: which just shears off
06:41 AM jthornton: well that sucks
06:42 AM XXCoder: yeah
09:14 AM gregcnc: a brother vmc -> linuxcnc pathpilot retrofit https://www.instagram.com/p/BxCu-9egQki/
09:33 AM gloops: theres a little boxford on ebay here for £300, he cant get the old electronics working
09:33 AM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Boxford-Cnc-260-Vmc-Milling-Machine/273827262816?
09:34 AM gloops: not take long to get that running on linuxcnc
09:36 AM jthornton: neat
10:22 AM en1gma: i have grbl 1.1g uploaded to the DRV8825 with cnc shield on my arduino uno r3. my nema 17 motors i dont think are powerfull enough to move my 28x32 triple lnbf sat dish (i havent got it balanced to good yet)
10:23 AM en1gma: anyhow is there a way to see my positional data of X and Y when i move the dish by hand like in the grbl serial monitor interface where i can enter $$
10:24 AM en1gma: when i point the dish it should move the motors and the motors should provide real time feedback of the coords even without an encoder?
10:24 AM en1gma: if i rotate the motors shaft by hand shouldnt i also see the positional data moving?
10:34 AM pcw_home: No, unless there is some feedback to the controller (usually by encoders)
10:36 AM pcw_home: you can get some (relatively poor) feedback from stepmotors by tracking their quadrature back-EMF
10:38 AM pcw_home: but hybrid stepmotors are a pain to reverse drive since they have so much residual torque
10:43 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W87T2ffpAOo
10:51 AM en1gma: pcw_home thanks for the info.
11:53 AM CaptHindsight: anyone use or try https://www.autodesk.com/products/netfabb/overview
01:06 PM jym: Alright, it's the end of the world, 1/4 of the population is mutated zombies (the other 1/4 are vegan zombies- the worse kind of course), would you want to carry a SS or carbon knife???
01:07 PM jym: ...and why?
01:13 PM Loetmichel: Stainless
01:14 PM Loetmichel: sharpening is easy in a postapokalytic world, a broken carbon knife is worthless
01:14 PM Loetmichel: so something that can bend rather than break
01:14 PM jym: Ok, so why would anyone WANT a carbon knife?
01:14 PM Loetmichel: bragging rights?
01:15 PM Loetmichel: i DO like my ceramic knifes here
01:15 PM Loetmichel: they DO break easily though
01:15 PM Loetmichel: but its not post apokalypse, so i can get new ones easily when i break one ;)
01:15 PM jym: ceramic kitchen is one thing.
01:17 PM jym: Loetmichel: Yeah, I just really wasn't sure if there was a good reason for a carbon knife, it sorta makes sense, in a way, I guess
01:32 PM * JT-Shop is off the hook to make a lathe spindle adapter, no tool to cut a M30-3.5 internal thread
01:42 PM Jymmm: JT-Shop: Really? A tool you don't have? Are you sure a gator didn't sneak in and took it?
01:53 PM gambakufu: what does SAI stand for?
01:57 PM gloops: sentient artificial intelligence
02:00 PM jym: Like Hu-Mons
02:00 PM DaViruz: hunams
02:00 PM gambakufu: right... and in the context of linuxcnc source?
02:01 PM jym: gambakufu: where did you read this?
02:01 PM gambakufu: ah, standalone interpreter
02:01 PM gambakufu: linuxcnc/src/emc/sai
02:01 PM jym: link?
02:02 PM gambakufu: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/tree/master/src/emc/sai
02:06 PM jym: Hmmm, I dont know git/hub well enough to track changes and who made them
03:04 PM * Tom_L gives JT-Shop a single point thread cutter
03:17 PM * JT-Shop has several single point thread cutters for the lathe but none that will cut a 3.5mm pitch
03:17 PM JT-Shop: internal
03:58 PM Deejay: gn8
04:22 PM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EVBsRQCODl8
04:22 PM jthornton: nesting part 2
04:25 PM XXCoder: lol was thinking chickens
04:25 PM jthornton: lol
04:26 PM XXCoder: nice
04:26 PM XXCoder: so it adopts gcode to build mul;tiples of parts?
04:27 PM jthornton: yea uses a part subroutine and can rotate the part and have a grid of parts
04:27 PM jym: jthornton: Will it auto nest per a predescribed minimum spacing ?
04:27 PM jthornton: I need to have seperate XY offsets and start points for odd and even rows but I'm getting close
04:27 PM jthornton: no
04:28 PM jym: jthornton: ok, still cool
04:28 PM jthornton: you just putz with the numbers till it looks right lol
04:28 PM XXCoder: indeed
04:29 PM jym: I know ArtCam will automagically do nesting, will even rotate parts adn nest parts inside other mparts
04:29 PM jthornton: I think it's not bad for a couple of hours of coding
04:29 PM jthornton: is it $$$ArtCam?
04:29 PM jym: No, not at all
04:30 PM jym: More like $$$$$$ artcam
04:30 PM XXCoder: lol
04:30 PM jthornton: what do you do with a bunch of parts that are in a dxf?
04:30 PM jym: import them into artcam
04:30 PM XXCoder: then import artcam into trash? ;)
04:30 PM XXCoder: joking
04:31 PM jthornton: when I'm done I'll be able to select a nozzle, material, and amps from my database and use that for offsets
04:31 PM jym: nice
04:31 PM XXCoder: hey jt is there a good locak source of plastic tubes?
04:31 PM jthornton: like for your light?
04:31 PM XXCoder: i want to get and cut tube to fit my light.
04:31 PM XXCoder: yeah
04:31 PM jthornton: McMaster Carr
04:31 PM XXCoder: looks like 45mm od and inside can be down to 41mm
04:32 PM jym: clear tubes?
04:32 PM XXCoder: yeah
04:32 PM jym: thinkness?
04:32 PM XXCoder: https://shop.rasmachinetool.com/Jarrer-Ultra-LED-Flat-Light-Series-JFL-WH20W-p/jfl-wh20w-ac100-240v.htm
04:32 PM XXCoder: thicker the better though i think 2mm thick is plenty. orginal cheap replacement tube was 1mm
04:33 PM XXCoder: 2mm actually
04:33 PM jym: XXCoder: home depot has those tubes that fit over florescent tubes to prevent breakage
04:33 PM jthornton: yea that might fit
04:33 PM XXCoder: thanks :) I want to make it work again
04:33 PM XXCoder: build is dang high quality besides cheapass tube fix
04:33 PM jthornton: does it not work without a tube?
04:33 PM XXCoder: not surpised as orginial glass is $80!
04:34 PM jym: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-8-ft-Fluorescent-Tube-Protector-TGT12CL8-R24/100173242
04:35 PM XXCoder: might work. would have to check as it has no dimensions
04:36 PM jym: XXCoder: look up the model number on their websire
04:36 PM XXCoder: i did yeah glass is $80 :)
04:37 PM XXCoder: unless you meant that tube
04:37 PM jym: yeah, that tube
04:38 PM XXCoder: it isnt too clear on what model # it is
04:38 PM XXCoder: TGT12CL8-R24 maybe
04:40 PM XXCoder: no luck
04:44 PM jthornton: might have to just take the end and go shopping...
04:44 PM jym: XXCoder: https://www.1000bulbs.com/product/86743/PLAS-100269.html?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIx_-DoeuC4gIVBNNkCh1H4wfIEAQYASABEgIE5_D_BwE
04:44 PM XXCoder: nice now lets see if it would fit
04:45 PM XXCoder: too thin tube unfortunately
04:45 PM XXCoder: minium is bit over 1.5 inch
04:46 PM XXCoder: outer 1.77 inch inside 1.6 inch
04:46 PM XXCoder: outer matters less
04:46 PM jym: XXCoder: They have 2" acrylic tube ($$)
04:47 PM XXCoder: i think id can be 1.57" and barely fit
04:47 PM jym: XXCoder: or just heat bend flay poly
04:47 PM jym: flat*
04:47 PM XXCoder: not that skilled unfortunately lol
04:47 PM jym: oh bullshit, yes you are
04:47 PM XXCoder: i found few sources online but shipping breakable tubes dunno lol
04:48 PM jym: what ID do you need?/
04:48 PM XXCoder: 40mm is minium
04:48 PM jym: wtf is that in normal ?
04:49 PM XXCoder: 1.57" approc
04:49 PM jym: Then get those ROUND tubes, and make them oval
04:50 PM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=apel2BgdFw8
04:50 PM jthornton: nesting part 3
04:50 PM * jthornton wanders up to the machine shop for his beer
04:51 PM jym: cnc beer machine????
04:53 PM XXCoder: jthornton: hey got idea for you
04:53 PM XXCoder: allow user to define stock area and do "best fit"
04:53 PM XXCoder: user sets whatever nminium tiling, then your program figures how to best fit as many of those as possible
04:53 PM jym: XXCoder: can ovel work? just slightly flatten them, then hit with some hit to maintain that new shape
04:53 PM XXCoder: doubtful as there is ends caps
04:53 PM XXCoder: one rubber fitting for button, and other end has wire in cap
04:54 PM jym: 3d print them?
04:54 PM jym: silly putty?/
04:54 PM XXCoder: lol
04:57 PM jthornton: XXCoder: lots of coding to do that lol
04:57 PM XXCoder: maybe not
04:57 PM XXCoder: just do quick math see how many tiles it can do
04:57 PM XXCoder: it may still waste some area
04:58 PM XXCoder: just repeat up and right till it overtakes edge of stock
05:01 PM jthornton: displaying the stock size would be a nice feature to have
05:01 PM * jthornton needs to see "quick math" so he can understand how that's done :)
05:02 PM XXCoder: basically it takes width of 2 parts, then add gap between parts to it
05:02 PM XXCoder: then it does stock width / 2 part width
05:03 PM XXCoder: then round down
05:03 PM XXCoder: then check if can add one more part at end if can, add. thats it
05:03 PM jthornton: did you see the last video with the parts tilted so they nest better
05:03 PM XXCoder: yeah
05:04 PM XXCoder: harder is detecting if that added part would have overlap or not
05:05 PM jthornton: yea and the width say at the V's is not the whole width of the part but is the step over
05:05 PM XXCoder: length is same idea basically
05:05 PM XXCoder: yeah thats why I said width of 2 parts, left of left part to right max of right part
05:05 PM XXCoder: then add gap between parts (how much second is offset from first)
05:06 PM XXCoder: that gves you tile width
05:06 PM XXCoder: picture it like bathroom tile pattern, it looks same as you keep tiling to right till one tile dont fit
05:06 PM jthornton: I don't thing auto nesting is that simple as you have to examine the part shape first
05:07 PM jthornton: yea if they are square parts that would be easy but if they are not square it gets real complex real fast
05:08 PM XXCoder: not really if you use simple dimensions, leftmost of left part to rightmost of right part + gap
05:08 PM XXCoder: then for other axis, bottommost of bottom part, and topmost of top part + gap
05:09 PM XXCoder: that creates 4 part tile which your program can treat as square
05:09 PM XXCoder: though i just had a thought
05:10 PM XXCoder: your prorgam allows user to click number of repeats to right and upwards right?
05:10 PM jthornton: I can follow that but if you add another part it may not be another square
05:10 PM XXCoder: maybe have it auto grow till it goes over borders and reverse
05:10 PM jthornton: yea X and Y
05:10 PM XXCoder: slower but more flexiable
05:11 PM XXCoder: and advange is it is very nearly all existing code already
05:11 PM jthornton: it took me 50 seconds to layout 75 parts...
05:11 PM XXCoder: all you need is way to show stock and define which you already want to, and code to detect fitting of part on stock
05:12 PM XXCoder: hmm may not be worth it, though stock showing is still great idea :)
05:13 PM XXCoder: hey missor
05:13 PM jthornton: yea showing the stock would be a nice addition to have on vtk, I can fake that with G code and block delete
05:14 PM Tom_L: some parts require grain direction too so nesting gets tricky
05:14 PM XXCoder: wonder if you can input MAX tool diameter, and have it show conficts
05:14 PM XXCoder: tom indeed
05:14 PM jthornton: this is for plasma
05:14 PM XXCoder: i hate grain direction parts though not very common at work.
05:14 PM XXCoder: man make it more general :)
05:15 PM XXCoder: dont think it takes very much actually
05:15 PM jthornton: local shop made a bunch of dog bones for the Navy and the inspector said lets see the forging papers the guy just about passed out he made them from billet
05:16 PM XXCoder: ouch was it accepted?
05:16 PM jthornton: I guess grain made a difference
05:16 PM jthornton: no they rejected the whole lot
05:16 PM XXCoder: material certification is a requirement for some stuff
05:17 PM XXCoder: too bad expensive mistake
05:17 PM XXCoder: shop i work at got big job, bought LOTS of blocks of alum
05:17 PM XXCoder: I mean, lot.
05:17 PM jthornton: yea, more so for things that fly and go beneath the ocean, on sub overhaul they could trace back to the mine where the ore was dug for the bolts
05:17 PM XXCoder: thhhhen it turns out we cant make those parts reliabily
05:18 PM jthornton: why not?
05:18 PM XXCoder: so we lost job. year later material we bought lost material certification
05:18 PM XXCoder: it was... very complex part
05:18 PM jthornton: ouch
05:18 PM XXCoder: 5 axis machine couldnt do it, scrapped all parts it made
05:18 PM Tom_L: maybe it was over engineered
05:18 PM XXCoder: very
05:19 PM Tom_L: they teach that at the vo'tech the kids go to
05:19 PM Tom_L: you can draw just about anything but try to make it
05:19 PM XXCoder: tom it'd have made company mint
05:19 PM XXCoder: but it was BIG cost sink lol. we still have those alum blocks, slowly using em up for fitures or whatever
05:19 PM XXCoder: we have cargo box outside full of it.
05:20 PM XXCoder: 30 pallets i think total
05:20 PM Tom_L: i recall years back we had to make first article trailing links for the front landing gear on the citation 10 from billet ti
05:21 PM Tom_L: 6 ea
05:21 PM Tom_L: they wanted to use exhisting billets but they weren't strong enough
05:21 PM Tom_L: so they had to make new ones
05:21 PM Tom_L: those ran for over a week each
05:22 PM XXCoder: ow
05:23 PM Tom_L: wasn't adviseable to scrap one either
05:24 PM XXCoder: what was done to 6 that was too weak
05:25 PM Tom_L: no, they wanted to use exhisting forgings from another plane but they were too weak
05:25 PM XXCoder: ahh so new design?
05:25 PM Tom_L: yeah
05:25 PM XXCoder: ouch new design certs is expensive.
05:25 PM Tom_L: but they needed test articles before that
05:25 PM XXCoder: makes sense
05:25 PM Tom_L: thus the billet
05:26 PM Tom_L: that was a hefty chunk of Ti
05:26 PM XXCoder: heh yeah work deals with some of big ti chunks
05:26 PM XXCoder: like one I call "big bone"
05:26 PM XXCoder: its 4 foot long looks kinda like bone
05:26 PM XXCoder: iut was cast and need machine into part
05:27 PM Tom_L: we did a bunch of flap tracks from Ti but they weren't as big, just long
05:53 PM XXCoder: jthornton: http://amasci.com/amateur/holohint.html
05:53 PM XXCoder: man i bet its possible to make holo-cam
06:14 PM jthornton: holograms what fun
06:14 PM Tom_L: bit sore today
06:14 PM jthornton: what did you do
06:14 PM Tom_L: took the washer apart last night and changed the bearings
06:15 PM jthornton: what kind of washer?
06:15 PM Tom_L: clothes
06:15 PM Tom_L: had to take the drum and basket out
06:15 PM jthornton: I mean front load or top load?
06:15 PM Tom_L: it's just easier
06:15 PM Tom_L: top
06:15 PM Tom_L: i'll never buy another front loader
06:15 PM jthornton: mine makes a terrible noise when spinning but it's a front load
06:15 PM Tom_L: bearings
06:15 PM Tom_L: have fun
06:16 PM Tom_L: i did that like 4-5 times on the front loader before i got rid of it
06:16 PM jthornton: yea I'll just replace it lol it's old anyway and wait till it dies
06:16 PM Tom_L: i already had the kit for this
06:16 PM XXCoder: jt ya was wondering if it could be done with cam and machine
06:16 PM jthornton: I'm sure it can
06:16 PM Tom_L: got the bearing press etc the first time
06:16 PM XXCoder: probably can do very complex hologram
06:17 PM Tom_L: to get the factory bearings you gotta buy the whole tub, bearing and shaft kit
06:18 PM jthornton: geeez
06:18 PM Tom_L: a bit over $300
06:18 PM XXCoder: jeez
06:18 PM XXCoder: no "brokers" online?
06:18 PM XXCoder: people who buy those and part out
06:18 PM Tom_L: i have a part source
06:18 PM jym: Is a mill any good if it's been in a 2000F forest fire?
06:19 PM Tom_L: is it all rusted out?
06:19 PM jthornton: sure, it just makes toasted parts
06:19 PM Tom_L: may be warped
06:19 PM jym: Tom_L: oh yeah
06:19 PM jthornton: did you measure the temperature?
06:19 PM Tom_L: probably as good as the one in the video earlier this week :)
06:20 PM jym: jthornton: Does melted windshields and sluminum rims count?
06:20 PM jthornton: no
06:20 PM Tom_L: did it burn all the grease out?
06:20 PM jym: like ALL the windshields in a 151000 acres melted
06:20 PM jthornton: you have to stand your ground and hold the pyrometer out
06:21 PM jym: jthornton: I tried , but the national guard kept pointing their rifles at me when I tried
06:21 PM jthornton: stick the probe in the rifle...
06:22 PM jym: oh, is THAT the trick
06:22 PM jthornton: yea that just confuses them
06:22 PM XXCoder: no pics I assume its partially in puddle of metal heh
06:25 PM jym: No, it's still standing, but I could make an offer on it
06:25 PM XXCoder: offer at less than half od scrap metal heh
06:25 PM jym: but is even free worth it?
06:25 PM XXCoder: you will have to look at oit
06:26 PM jthornton: yea it has a scrap value
06:26 PM jym: how much work to restore it (mechanically)?
06:27 PM jthornton: all of it
06:27 PM jym: yeah, it's sitting in a pile of burnt out other stuff. I just saw it when driving by
06:34 PM Tom_L: probably cost ~600 to move it
06:34 PM Tom_L: maybe more
06:35 PM Tom_L: unless you DIY
06:35 PM Tom_L: what type of mill?
07:58 PM ziper: one of my head bolts had threads that were goobered up at the end near the head, but the far end had fine threads
07:58 PM ziper: how could that happen
07:58 PM XXCoder: fused metal into walls?
08:15 PM ziper: it looked progressive
08:16 PM XXCoder: ran out of materal to fuse? hjeh
08:16 PM XXCoder: honestloy hard to picture it without picturtes
09:19 PM ziper: i put it in a tray of bolts so i could continue putting the engine together and when i went to look for it it was gone
09:48 PM infornography: I made my own unipolar stepper driver