#linuxcnc Logs
Apr 24 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:36 AM Loetmichel: mornin'
02:35 AM Lcvette: https://youtu.be/8_CcadR5j4I
02:36 AM Lcvette: getting closer!
03:38 AM pink_vampire: Lcvette: this is linux cnc??
03:47 AM The_Ball: Lcvette, that's fantastic, I like the ATC look
03:48 AM The_Ball: Is this Qt based or something like that?
04:21 AM XXCoder: boo
04:23 AM pink_vampire: baa
04:26 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder: https://i.imgur.com/pRLn47T.png
04:26 AM XXCoder: looks clean
04:26 AM XXCoder: mostly anyway
04:26 AM pink_vampire: I love the ultrasonic cleaner
04:26 AM pink_vampire: this is the only spot it didn't cleaned
04:27 AM XXCoder: not bad
04:27 AM The_Ball: is there a before picture?
04:27 AM pink_vampire: the upper part was the part that go in to the ultrasonic https://i.imgur.com/vKflRax.jpg
04:40 AM Sabotend_ is now known as Sabotender
04:50 AM The_Ball: oh wow, dramatic
04:50 AM XXCoder: yeah so sparky
04:50 AM The_Ball: Been wanting a cleaner for a while, is this a brand name or just a generic?
04:56 AM XXCoder: The_Ball: pink menioned HF so I guess from that store, though she may have changed mind
04:57 AM XXCoder: that is. harbor freight
05:00 AM Loetmichel: The_Ball: i am pretty happy with the ebay kind. have the small 1,3l now for a few years, works pretty well. Takes ages to heat up the fluid though: https://www.ebay.de/itm/1-3-30L-Ultraschallreinigungsgerat-Ultraschallreiniger-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Korb/352605633222
05:01 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: lol picture is little but of a wtf
05:01 AM Loetmichel: ?
05:02 AM XXCoder: the bottom left is supposed to show different sizes, but its clearly just photoshop of same machine
05:02 AM The_Ball: Loetmichel, wow, a 15 bucks one actually works?
05:02 AM XXCoder: 15 euro sounds too cheap
05:02 AM Loetmichel: The_Ball: 40 bucks
05:03 AM Loetmichel: but yes, it works pretty well
05:03 AM XXCoder: 40 usd is bit cheap but then havent looked up ultrasonic prices
05:03 AM The_Ball: ah sorry, the default was a 600ml one :)
05:03 AM XXCoder: lol https://www.ebay.com/itm/7-LED-USB-Bulb-Humidifier-Diffuser-Essential-Oil-Ultrasonic-Aroma-Mist-Purifier/163662544189?hash=item261b0c3d3d:g:rugAAOSw8-lckNdh
05:04 AM Loetmichel: yeah, those are BS
05:04 AM XXCoder: 9 cnts lol (bidding but yeah not bid on it sounds bullshit)
05:06 AM The_Ball: lol, ebay suggested products, "Yabangbang Dental Drill"... I will not be sitting down if my dentists pulls out the "Yabangbang" drill
05:07 AM XXCoder: yeah bang bang
05:07 AM jthornton: morning
05:07 AM XXCoder: yo
05:07 AM XXCoder: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Mini-Size-Household-Digital-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Watches-Glasses-Circuit-W1J9/132965799012?hash=item1ef5611464%3Ag%3Av9oAAOSwXIFccUf6&LH_BIN=1
05:07 AM XXCoder: crazy cheap lol
05:08 AM XXCoder: probably minium size to fit glasses
05:08 AM XXCoder: yep
05:08 AM XXCoder: lol pic shows glasses small size inside it
05:09 AM XXCoder: gnome glasses I guess
05:10 AM XXCoder: not bad if needclean lots bolts at once
05:11 AM XXCoder: more "industral" https://www.ebay.com/itm/2L-3L-6L-15L-Industry-Digital-Heated-Ultrasonic-Cleaner-Heater-Timer-Bath-Tank/302570380862
05:11 AM XXCoder: 43 bucks for 6 liters pretty large
05:12 AM jthornton: that's for the 1.3L
05:12 AM XXCoder: uh 15l is also same price
05:12 AM XXCoder: something up a second
05:12 AM XXCoder: oh new ebay domain
05:13 AM jthornton: 15L $218
05:13 AM XXCoder: ya working now
05:20 AM Tom_L: morning
05:21 AM XXCoder: morning
05:22 AM Tom_L: Lcvette, looks good
05:29 AM Loetmichel: FINALLY nearly done with the brass turning... got 10 of 30 sets of fuse adapters complete and 20 half complete... only 20 to go second mount... maaan thats no fun on that C0 "lathe" : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7J40p8dMZZk
05:30 AM XXCoder: tiny
05:31 AM Loetmichel: the lathe? indeed
05:31 AM Loetmichel: 7kg
05:31 AM Loetmichel: "Hosentaschendrehe"
05:31 AM Loetmichel: (pocket lathe)
05:31 AM Loetmichel: :-)
05:31 AM XXCoder: wonder if you could make that lathe with that cnc router heh
05:31 AM Loetmichel: literally ,)
05:32 AM Loetmichel: the router has a C axis
05:32 AM Loetmichel: so yes: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yDcCyF_gVoY
05:41 AM Deejay: moin
05:42 AM XXCoder: lol ok
05:42 AM XXCoder: hey
05:56 AM * Loetmichel was impressed btw: only 3/100mm tolerance between all the parts, and that with that mini lathe that has play like no good and without measuring, only relying on the scale rings on the handles. :-)
06:17 AM drzacek: Loetmichel, you could achieve 1um tolerance with properly calibrated cnc lathe
06:18 AM XXCoder: .0005" is reasonable with ok cnc lathe heh
06:18 AM XXCoder: .0005" tol is quite hard on cnc if its not a bore
07:04 AM XXCoder: wow science progresses. malaria
07:04 AM XXCoder: vaccine.
07:05 AM XXCoder: it confers only partial protection but its a big thing.
07:39 AM Loetmichel: drzacek: of course. but 3/100mm is not bad at all for "freehand"
07:39 AM Loetmichel: with a lathe that is pretty worn/has much play
07:52 AM drzacek: Loetmichel, depends, you can compensate for play
07:54 AM Loetmichel: yes, i can
07:54 AM Loetmichel: i am still impressed that it went that weell
07:54 AM Loetmichel: well
07:55 AM Loetmichel: have you seen the vid?
07:55 AM Loetmichel: that lathe weights 15 lbs
07:55 AM Loetmichel: it moves whenever i try to turn the handle fast ;)
07:56 AM drzacek: crazy
07:57 AM drzacek: what's lbs tho
10:53 AM fragalot: 'sup
11:13 AM Jymmm: sky
11:16 AM Lcvette: pink_vampire: yes!
11:16 AM Lcvette: The_Ball: qtpyvcp
11:20 AM Lcvette: Tom_L: Thanks! :D
11:33 AM abrock_: but when I say for example "G1 x0.001" LinuxCNC starts to try to reduce the error to 0 (which is not possible since the resolution of the measuring system is 0.005)
11:34 AM abrock_: can I somehow tell LinuxCNC to just stop when the error is below .0025?
11:35 AM Lcvette: are you using it as an "encoder"?
11:36 AM abrock_: yes, linear encoder
11:36 AM Lcvette: change the following error
11:36 AM Lcvette: ?
11:37 AM Lcvette: increase
11:37 AM Lcvette: in the PID
11:38 AM Lcvette: section
11:42 AM abrock_: ahh, I found the setting, it is called "deadband"
11:42 AM pcw_home: You can add some deadzone to the PID component
11:42 AM pcw_home: Yeah deadband
11:42 AM abrock_: thank you, I'll try that.
11:44 AM abrock_: Next problem: I want to use the maxhine for moving a camera _very_ precisely. I'd like to get a position accuracy better than the resolution of the linear encoders. Therefore I'd like the machine to approach the target position very slowly from the left
11:45 AM abrock_: Is there a way in LinuxCNC to do that?
11:45 AM abrock_: It seems like a rather useless feature for normal milling machines to me
11:46 AM pcw_home: Position accuracy is likely to always be always worse than encoder resolution
11:48 AM pcw_home: consider that the PID feedback is going to get very "crunchy" or "bang-bang" if you error band is only a few counts
11:50 AM pcw_home: low friction/ low stiction linear systems can often get the error less than say 2 counts
11:51 AM pcw_home: but the error on a ballscrew/dovetail system will likely be much more
11:51 AM pcw_home: you can also improve accuracy by reducing acceleration/velocity
11:58 AM The_Ball: Lcvette, that's excellent. I found your thread in the forum
11:59 AM Lcvette: The_Ball: :D
11:59 AM Lcvette: its awesome!
12:00 PM Lcvette: https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com/
12:00 PM Lcvette: check that out its more indepth on the project
12:38 PM jym: I need to heat seal the end of plastic tubing. But I'm not sure how to create the "jaws" to press/crimp the tubing (no mill), I want the jaw faces like a /\/\/\/\/\/\ or wavy'ish
12:39 PM jym: any thoughts or something I can get premade and retrofit?
12:42 PM Loetmichel: *GIGGLE* $me just went out for a smoke... didnt know we had tumbleweed in germany... saw a 3ft diameter Buxus sempervirens including stem and roots fly thru the street... YES, it is "a bit windy" today. :-)
12:44 PM Rab: jym, how about these? https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ED3IMJG
12:46 PM Rab: You probably want to remove the magnetic strips and mount the jaws to heated blocks, but aluminum is good for thermal conductivity and they're a lot cheaper than name-brand serrated vise jaws.
12:46 PM Rab: And those usually have holes in them which might affect your crimp.
12:47 PM roycroft: you germans are obsessed with cowboys and the american west
12:48 PM roycroft: some rich person probably imported some tumbleweed from our west and set it free to roam about germanu
12:48 PM roycroft: germany
12:48 PM jym: Rab: Those might work, I'd prefer the serations to be the other direction though
12:48 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: nope, that was a joke
12:48 PM Connor: in pncconf, working with 5i25 g540 firmware.. We've set up a pin to be Spindle ON. Doesn't work. We switch it to Spindle Break and Inv the output and it does. What's up with that?
12:49 PM Loetmichel: Buxus sempervirens is a kind of hedge plant, sometimes used to make "funny shapes" in gardens
12:49 PM Loetmichel: it just got uprooted by the wind from some lawn and blewn PRETTY fast thur the streets
12:50 PM Rab: jym, something like these? https://jaws.fotcnc.com/kt-8200af.html
12:52 PM andypugh: XXCoder: Here is a musical instrument you might appreciate. https://youtu.be/1AEvQAg6TE0
12:53 PM Rab: jym, cheaper set: https://www.ebay.com/itm/192875521147
12:53 PM Rab: The serrations do appear to be angled one direction, though.
12:53 PM jym: Rab: https://rfclipart.com/image/big/cd-23-6b/blank-toothpaste-tube-template-Download-Royalty-free-Vector-File-EPS-41087.jpg
12:53 PM andypugh: There sre two standards, 90 degree and 60 degree serrations, one metric one imperial.
12:53 PM Rab: jym, ah yes
12:54 PM andypugh: I made my own.
12:54 PM jym: andypugh: I have no mill is the issue
12:54 PM andypugh: Also: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3191991
12:55 PM Rab: jym, there appear to be two parts to that crimp: flat, then serrated. I guess you could sandwich some bar stock against the serrated piece.
12:56 PM Rab: andypugh, it's for heat-sealing, so thermoplastic is likely contraindicated.
12:56 PM jym: Rab: The first pick you showed me seems to be common on some aluminum extrusions, I ight be able to look around and find something like it
12:56 PM jym: I'd just PREFER it to go the other direction, not a requirement
12:57 PM Rab: jym, yeah, you might get lucky and find something common like a door threshold extrusion with serrated cleats.
12:57 PM jym: Rab: That's what I was thinking, then can just cut to length as needed
12:58 PM andypugh: I think I misunderstood the question :-)
12:58 PM jym: andypugh: --> I need to heat seal the end of plastic tubing. But I'm not sure how to create the "jaws" to press/crimp the tubing (no mill), I want the jaw faces like a /\/\/\/\/\/\ or wavy'ish
12:58 PM jym: (10:36:18 AM) jymm jymmmm: any thoughts or something I can get premade and retrofit?
12:58 PM Rab: jym, how wide is your tube (and/or crimped end)?
12:59 PM jym: Rab: less than an inch
12:59 PM andypugh: Serrated-jaw pliers?
12:59 PM jym: andypugh: https://rfclipart.com/image/big/cd-23-6b/blank-toothpaste-tube-template-Download-Royalty-free-Vector-File-EPS-41087.jpg
12:59 PM Rab: jym, those Yost jaws appear to be 5x1"...might be made to work at 90 degrees.
01:00 PM jym: Rab: but steel, not aluminum
01:00 PM Rab: jym, you're wanting steel?
01:00 PM Rab: How many pieces is your job?
01:00 PM jym: Nooo, I want aluminum, just a pair
01:00 PM Rab: jym, the Yost jaws are Al.
01:01 PM jym: let me look again...
01:01 PM Rab: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B00ED3IMJG
01:01 PM andypugh: https://www.amazon.com/Parallel-Action-Serrated-V-Groove-Jewelry/dp/B078NZV5S2/
01:02 PM Rab: I kinda like those, but they would be tricky to heat.
01:02 PM jym: Rab: which would be?
01:02 PM roycroft: i have a non-serrated version of those pliers
01:02 PM Rab: The pliers andypugh linked.
01:02 PM jym: ah, yeah
01:03 PM roycroft: i have those aluminium vise jaw caps too
01:03 PM Rab: You could mount them in some kind of fixture with an insulated handle and cartridge heaters on the jaws, I guess.
01:03 PM andypugh: Heat with” https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/1000W-20A-ZVS-Induction-Heating-Board-Module-Heater-DC12-36V-Tube/162881386593
01:03 PM roycroft: the magnetic strip is not adhered very well and comes off - i had to reglue mine
01:04 PM jym: roycroft: good to know, that I won't have hard time removing it
01:04 PM jym: I have ways to heat the jaws, just need the jaws =)
01:04 PM roycroft: the adhesive is a kind of rubber cement
01:04 PM roycroft: not contact cement
01:05 PM Rab: jym, how many pcs of tubing? I'm wondering whether aluminum extrusion will be too soft for that kind of work, depending on the number of cycles.
01:05 PM gloops: https://www.amazon.co.uk/Babyliss-Crimpin-Ceramic-Settings-2-5-inch/dp/B00290I07O/ref=asc_df_B00290I07O/?tag=googshopuk-21&linkCode=df0&hvadid=313200072224&hvpos=1o3&hvnetw=g&hvrand=10128764338093067552&hvpone=&hvptwo=&hvqmt=&hvdev=c&hvdvcmdl=&hvlocint=&hvlocphy=9046276&hvtargid=pla-699024164864&psc=1
01:06 PM jym: Rab: Hopefully, a few thousand
01:06 PM Rab: gloops with the lateral thinking.
01:06 PM gloops: just take the thermostat off lol
01:07 PM jym: I have a hair curler, I'll check the heat output
01:07 PM roycroft: i'm starting to use my lathe on a regular basis, and am thinking about getting some insert tooling
01:07 PM roycroft: it's a 12x36, with an axa toolpost
01:07 PM roycroft: i'm using mainly 5/16" and 3/8" hss tooling at the moment
01:08 PM Rab: I'm still digging the pliers andypugh posted. I think I would remove the jaws and build a clamping fixture, though.
01:08 PM roycroft: but there's a much bigger variety of insert tool holders in 1/2"
01:08 PM roycroft: does that seem like it would be too big for that lathe?
01:08 PM roycroft: i know that 1/2" tooling will physically fit in the axa tootool holders
01:08 PM roycroft: but barely
01:08 PM andypugh: roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsFFWYo8ugw
01:09 PM andypugh: For threading whitworth insert tooling is the way to go, for the thread rounding.
01:09 PM roycroft: thanks
01:09 PM roycroft: i don't have a half hour to watch that now, but it's bookmarked for later
01:10 PM roycroft: i'm pretty sure i want to use insert tooling
01:10 PM Rab: jym, I think the way the crimp is formed in that stock photo is important. Note that the serrations don't reach all the way to the envelope; I believe that would risk breaking through. The flat spot seals while the serrations add mechanical strength.
01:10 PM roycroft: it's a matter of what size to get
01:10 PM roycroft: maybe i should get a cheap tool holder in 1/2" and try it out
01:11 PM jym: Rab: good point, I had been wondering about that - not melting open the inner end of the crimp
01:14 PM jym: Ok, the flat curling iron IS hot enough to soften the plastic, but the heat needs to be removed while it's still held closed until it cna cool down
01:15 PM jym: so i need a two stage clamp it seems
01:20 PM * jym kisses gloops
01:26 PM jym: https://imgur.com/Nk4Jgsm
01:27 PM jym: https://imgur.com/QM2jPyI
01:30 PM Connor: Anyone explain why in 5i25 g540 setup, that Spindle Brake works to turn the spindle on/off, but using Spindle On or Spindle CW in pncconf doesn't?
01:31 PM Connor: I've never seen this.
01:31 PM Connor: No PWM, No ecnoder.. Only On/Off.. not even CCW
01:31 PM jym: I'm using this one... https://www.cvs.com/shop/conair-ceramic-straightener-1-inch-prodid-544406
01:32 PM jym: connorI havne't seen pcw_home so far today, he might know
01:32 PM jym: Hi Lawernce
01:33 PM ve7it: hey jym
01:33 PM gloops: if its sticking you could try baking paper to line it - upvc window fabrication tricks
01:33 PM jym: gloops: I have teflon tape on it to prevent that
01:33 PM gloops: ahh ok
01:34 PM jym: gloops: see 2nd pic I posted
01:34 PM gloops: very pro setup jym
01:34 PM jym: gloops: hahaha, it's ghetto faboulous =)
01:35 PM Connor: pcw_home: if you around ping me.
01:35 PM jym: gloops: But hey, it's actually working, and the weave of the teflon tape is the right about of "serration"
01:35 PM jym: amount*
01:36 PM gloops: well doesnt matter what colour so long as it works
01:37 PM jym: gloops: all pink =) pink_vampire would love that
01:38 PM jym: nd I just found one for $15 thats a bit thinner too, which might actually work a better
01:38 PM jym: gloops: https://www.target.com/p/conair-frizz-free-smooth-ultra-slim-ceramic-flat-iron-3-4/-/A-10538601
01:38 PM jym: gloops: and frizz free =)
01:41 PM andypugh: roycroft: I would think that 16mm is more the size for a 12x36. Is your toolholder a little undersized?
01:42 PM roycroft: possibly, andypugh
01:43 PM roycroft: a 12" lathe is right on the edge between axa and bxa
01:43 PM andypugh: I have Multifix A on my 10” and that can handle 20mm
01:44 PM roycroft: it's an a size toolpost
01:44 PM roycroft: and i have 100 series toolholders, which are correct for that toolpost
01:45 PM roycroft: i had considered a bxa, but it was more than 2x the cost of the axa, and might have been a bit too tall
01:45 PM roycroft: resulting in my having to use small tooling to sit low enough
01:46 PM roycroft: i wanted a multifix, but those were even more expensive
01:46 PM roycroft: maybe some day
01:46 PM andypugh: http://www.createtool.com/list.asp?cid=33
01:47 PM andypugh: $240
01:47 PM roycroft: wow
01:47 PM roycroft: that's not bad
01:47 PM roycroft: they go for 3x that much on ebay
01:47 PM andypugh: (Post and 4 holder kit)
01:48 PM roycroft: even the b size is reasonable on that site
01:48 PM andypugh: It’s what I have on my Holbrook. No complaints.
01:48 PM roycroft: multifix looks so much more flexible than the aloris type
01:49 PM roycroft: i've never used one, but the first time i saw one i knew it was the thing to get
01:50 PM roycroft: i should stop buying toolholders for my current toolpost and start saving up for a multifix
01:50 PM andypugh: There is a Multifix sizing guide here: http://www.lathes.co.uk/multifix/
01:51 PM roycroft: i have eight toolholders currently, i think
01:51 PM roycroft: so not a huge investment in those
01:52 PM andypugh: Yikes! https://www.ebay.de/itm/MULTIFIX-A-Schnellwechsel-Rueckzughalter-AFE-aussen-NEU-fuer-Drehmaschine-/381248921286
01:53 PM roycroft: that's pretty expensive, indeed
01:55 PM Connor: Anyone know or seen a lever style attachment for a cut off tool? So you can just use a handle vs the cross slide?
01:57 PM Connor is now known as connor
01:59 PM roycroft: i usually use the power feed for parting off
01:59 PM Connor: Smaller lathe, no power feed for cross slide.
01:59 PM roycroft: it's funny - when i was taking machining classes the instructors really stressed efficiency and working as quickly as one safely could
02:00 PM roycroft: but they were all paranoid about parting off, and taught to operate the lathe at 40rpm and manually part off very very slowly
02:00 PM roycroft: the same with knurling
02:00 PM roycroft: now i do both at much higher speeds
02:00 PM roycroft: but yeah, if you don't have a power feed it's kind of tedious parting off manually
02:00 PM roycroft: something with a lever would be nice
02:01 PM Connor: stupid spindle on/off thing for for this mini lathe is driving me nuts.
02:01 PM Connor: No clue why Spindle Brake works vs Spindle ON or Spindle CW
02:06 PM andypugh: Connor: Something messed up in the HAL. Possibly pins swapped?
02:07 PM Connor: Straight out of pncconf.
02:07 PM Connor: I'm looking over the .ini and .hal files now.
02:07 PM Connor: I'm not at the machine today.. I'm remote..
02:07 PM Connor: helping someone.
02:07 PM andypugh: Yes, but, did you tell it the right pin numbers?
02:07 PM Connor: It's the only pin that turns the spindle on/off
02:08 PM andypugh: It sounds like motion.spindle-brake is going to the motion.spindle-on physical pin.
02:11 PM Connor: We had to physically swap pin 16/17 The BOB is expecting pin 16 to be the spindle ON/OFF. but that was assigned to a stepgen. so we swapped it with pin 17 which was a GPIO pin.
02:11 PM Connor: At lease, that's what I can tell from the .pin file and the behavior.
02:12 PM Connor: pin 17 on the 5i25 is assigned to nothing.. it's swapped externally with pin 16.
02:12 PM Connor: we tell pncconf that pin17 is Spindle Break, it works. we tell it's that it's spindle on or spindle CW.. nothing.
02:13 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
02:16 PM Loetmichel: any BMW mechs here that can give me a tip where that exhaust is probably damaged on that 525i E39 by sound? -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7_PwNXFAvk
02:19 PM Loetmichel: it wasnt like that the first week after i bought it... made suddenly "pop" and went LOUD ;)
02:19 PM Loetmichel: funny thing: it is less pronounced when the engine is warm
02:21 PM Connor: okay. I think we got it figure out.
02:21 PM FinboySlick: Anyone figure out how to reload a savegame in real life yet?
02:22 PM FinboySlick: I need to redo my structural slab mould before I poured it.
02:22 PM FinboySlick: (and before it ultimately cracked)
02:23 PM FinboySlick: Loetmichel: Incidently, it also made a loud pop when it cracked.
02:28 PM andypugh: Connor: That seems odd. Have yopu looked at the generated HAL files in both scenarios?
02:29 PM Connor: I figured it out. Stupid mappings on the pncconf are confusing.. we were reading hm2_5i25.0.gpio.016.out as PIN 17, which really maps out to pin 13.
02:29 PM Connor: hm2_5i25.0.gpio.007.out maps out to pin 17 which we swapped hardware wise with pin 16
02:54 PM XXCoder: andypugh: lol yeah. looks like hes worjking on new one. i recall older ones
02:55 PM andypugh: It’s lovely, isn’t it?
02:55 PM XXCoder: yeah
02:58 PM XXCoder: i guess he plans to add more stuff, as only drum one is in
02:58 PM XXCoder: ponental is huge, as there must be 30 or more exist
02:58 PM XXCoder: exits for balls
03:03 PM andypugh: Ah, yes, he has only one drum and the rhythm section so far.
03:06 PM pink_vampire: hi
03:08 PM XXCoder: hey
03:14 PM Tom_L: busy irc day today
03:14 PM Tom_L: hump day and nobody want's to work?
03:16 PM jthornton: lol I'm taking a break from taking apart the BlueWing... actually going back together now
03:16 PM Tom_L: what's wrong with it?
03:16 PM Tom_L: you said you were getting it inspected the other day...
03:17 PM jthornton: reverse button would not stay in, silly me I followed the service manual for removing the right handle bar
03:17 PM jthornton: yea all they check is lights and horn on a bike
03:17 PM Tom_L: all you need :)
03:17 PM jthornton: I should have only paid attention to removing the right cluster lol
03:18 PM jthornton: but I was going by the book and removed the gauge panel and in order to put it back in you have to remove a bunch of other stuff
03:21 PM jthornton: looks like we are right on the edge of the precip
03:23 PM XXCoder: Tom_L: I dont have hump work day, I have hump time off heh
03:23 PM XXCoder: 4 days workdays
03:25 PM Deejay: gn8
03:28 PM pink_vampire: I'm cleaning
03:50 PM roycroft: with your new ultrasonic cleaner, pink_vampire?
03:50 PM pink_vampire: yeah!!
03:50 PM roycroft: do you like it?
03:50 PM pink_vampire: it is very good!!
03:50 PM XXCoder: careful or you end up putting everything in it ;)
03:51 PM XXCoder: but i bet!
03:51 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: too late
03:51 PM XXCoder: lol
03:51 PM XXCoder: though I wonder if it could do clothes (assuming big enough)
03:52 PM pink_vampire: i like your idea
03:52 PM XXCoder: i have some shirts stained with stuff from work
03:54 PM roycroft: hers is a wee bit small for that
03:54 PM XXCoder: https://www.bjultrasonic.com/ultrasonic-cleaning-faqs/why-dont-we-use-ultrasonic-energy-to-clean-clothes/
03:54 PM XXCoder: interesting
03:56 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/3JG7yzg.mp4 i need something like that to fight some wasps here
03:58 PM andypugh: pink_vampire: For some reason I was expecting that to be this: https://youtu.be/ttRYcURXK5M
03:59 PM pink_vampire: https://imgur.com/gallery/OtWcNmT
03:59 PM pink_vampire: this is neat!!
03:59 PM andypugh: Yes, but very expensive
04:00 PM XXCoder: been a while since saw that, but yeah nifty
04:00 PM pink_vampire: maybe is there a way to tent it
04:01 PM roycroft: my preference is to encourage the wasps to take up residence elsewhere
04:02 PM XXCoder: interesting. i just kill em
04:02 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: ok, but how??
04:02 PM XXCoder: heh rather unsafe way (if nest is small) is just flood area
04:02 PM XXCoder: but larger than that, eliminator
04:08 PM Rab: I use a garden hose with sprayer attachment. The wasps don't interpret getting wet as an intruder, and have trouble flying, so they kinda chill out and land to dry off. With a well-placed jet you can knock the nest off and crush it, without causing a swarm.
04:09 PM Rab: Of course the wasps are still around, but they have to rebuild the nest or maybe move elsewhere.
04:10 PM roycroft: that's what i use, rab
04:10 PM roycroft: which is the encouragement for them to move elsewhere
04:11 PM roycroft: i ran over a ground wasp's nest last year when mowing the lawn
04:11 PM roycroft: i got stung many times
04:12 PM roycroft: i did kill all those wasps by drowning them
04:12 PM roycroft: i don't know how else to get rid of ground wasps
04:13 PM SpeedEvil: Pour molten aluminium into the nest
04:14 PM roycroft: the wasps were very active
04:14 PM roycroft: so i waited until sundown, when i knew they would all be home for the night
04:14 PM roycroft: i put some window screen over the hole to their nest, weighed it down with some bricks, and then sat the garden hose on top of the screen and ran the water for a while
04:21 PM abrock_: if there is just one or two entrance(s) to the nest you can use an (industrial) vacuum cleaner
04:21 PM roycroft: i only saw one opening, but i can't be sure there was only one
04:22 PM roycroft: the water treatment worked fine
04:22 PM roycroft: the most important thing, and the thing that folks often miss, is waiting until sunset
04:22 PM roycroft: if you flood them out during the day hardly anyone will be home
04:23 PM roycroft: even doing it at sunset, i saw a few wasps hovering about their old home the next day
04:23 PM roycroft: i assume they were out late partying the night before and issed the flood
05:36 PM jthornton: not sure how I want to handle thread pitch between metric and inch for rigid tapping part of v6...
05:38 PM Tom_L: v6?
05:38 PM gregcnc: ooh, that's tricky. I program in metric so my threading lines have goofy pitches for UN threads
05:39 PM jthornton: mill touch v6
05:39 PM Tom_L: can you have a switch to toggle the input between the two?
05:39 PM jthornton: I skipped v5 lol
05:39 PM jthornton: not yet, thinking about how I want to do that
05:39 PM Tom_L: i didn't plan on doing metric so i left it out
05:39 PM Tom_L: i figure if i do any, i can just calculate it
05:40 PM jthornton: I tap some metric threads from time to time but usually inch
05:40 PM Tom_L: generally the user will want one or the other
05:40 PM jthornton: yea
05:40 PM Tom_L: so a one time toggle would be trick
05:41 PM Tom_L: i select a different post if i need metric
05:41 PM jthornton: hmmm...
05:41 PM Tom_L: i have both
05:41 PM Tom_L: i don't think i would mix em
05:42 PM jthornton: I think I'll just have the inch pitch for metric...
06:04 PM _unreal_: FINALLY!!!!! my order arrived
06:04 PM _unreal_: now I can realy work onfinishing my motor controller stuff
06:45 PM _unreal_: FINALLY I just finished setting up all of my motors with connectors
06:45 PM _unreal_: YAY
08:27 PM _unreal_: dshhhhh
09:23 PM net|: https://github.com/tecan/QPrint3D/blob/master/screenshot-3d.png
09:36 PM _unreal_: how dare you break the silence
09:36 PM _unreal_: :)