#linuxcnc Logs
Apr 15 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:54 AM Loetmichel: hmm, thats a first... just found out why my right headlight didnt work any more... exploded Xenon?!? (lickily i had a spare in my toolbox. not that cheap those arc lamps) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17340&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:19 AM Deejay: moin
02:26 AM rmu: moin
05:00 AM jthornton: morning
05:08 AM Vq: Good afternoon
05:09 AM Tom_L: morning
05:10 AM Tom_L: getting closer http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Smartcam/arc_leadin_percent.jpg
05:10 AM gloops: hello
05:11 AM gloops: whats the goal with that Tom_L? is it just a normal thread or something special?
05:17 AM Tom_L: cut with a single point thread mill
05:17 AM Tom_L: the idea is to have even chipload on the cuts
05:18 AM gloops: ahh ok
05:18 AM Tom_L: when i first wrote it, i just divided the cuts evenly
05:19 AM Tom_L: still a bit more to do on it
05:19 AM gloops: there are some screw tools in blender, not used them yet though http://builder.openhmd.net/blender-hmd-viewport-temp/modeling/meshes/editing/duplicating/screw.html
05:20 AM gloops: not getting a vector path there though, its a 3d mesh
05:22 AM Tom_L: huh
05:23 AM Tom_L: never used blender
05:23 AM Tom_L: can you define a variable pitch helix with it?
05:26 AM gloops: i dont know tbh, google doesnt come up with any blender tutorials for that
05:27 AM gloops: anyway to the shop...
05:27 AM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QJf8O2yvfF8
05:27 AM Tom_L: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JFmPSGllcW8
06:33 AM MacGalempsy: mornin
08:22 AM FinboySlick: Tom_L: If there isn't a click-y way to define the shape you want in blender, the python scripting is surprisingly easy to use.
08:26 AM * Loetmichel just polished one of his cars headlights... maan thats a bunch of work. Will have to do the other one (and this one again, still some old clearcoat left) when the mini orbital sander arrives... but MUCH better than the right side ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17343&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
09:44 AM Jymmm: Loetmichel: And new headlights are probably cheaper off ebay =)
09:44 AM Loetmichel: Jymmm: nope, already looked. used original ones are about $200 each
09:45 AM Loetmichel: and aftermarket ones still $12ß++
09:45 AM Loetmichel: $120++
09:45 AM Jymmm: Loetmichel: for your new bmw?
09:45 AM Loetmichel: i could get only the front glasses though for 30 a pair
09:45 AM Loetmichel: for my new old one, yes
09:46 AM Jymmm: $30/pair sounds reasonable
09:46 AM Loetmichel: but the glasses need cutting and reglueing. and i dont know if they have the mandatory codes embossed so i dont get in trouble next time it has Road legal check
09:47 AM Wolf__: plastic isnt hard to polish
09:47 AM Loetmichel: oh, sorry, $30 a piece
09:47 AM Loetmichel: Wolf__: indeed
09:47 AM Loetmichel: just work
09:47 AM Jymmm: Wolf__: Just a pita
09:48 AM Loetmichel: yes, kinda
09:48 AM Loetmichel: thats why i just ordered a very small orbital sander
09:48 AM Loetmichel: to help with that "pita"
09:48 AM Wolf__: I use the air die grinder w/ sanding pads or 3” foam on my DA polisher w/ garnet powder to start
09:48 AM Loetmichel: had one like the one i linked earilier back in my youth.
09:49 AM Loetmichel: they are not useful for any hard work, but great for light sanding in model making and stuff
09:50 AM Loetmichel: thats the one i ordered: https://www.kaleas.de//kaleas.cgi?action=show&lang=de&page=shop-produktliste.html&cat=32&subcat=3230&catname=Schleifen,%20Hobeln&arcode=32400
09:50 AM Loetmichel: (hope that link works, that site is gruesome, had to build that link myself
09:51 AM Wolf__: https://www.milwaukeetool.com/Products/Power-Tools/Woodworking/Oscillating-Multi-Tool/2426-20 one of these with a sander head also works well
09:52 AM Wolf__: tho for BMW guess you should be using the Fein verson lol
09:52 AM Jymmm: Loetmichel: 12V ?!
09:53 AM Loetmichel: Jymmm: that thing fits into a normal hand
09:53 AM Loetmichel: its TINY
09:53 AM Loetmichel: Wolf__: do i look like rockefeller?
09:53 AM Loetmichel: :-)
09:54 AM Wolf__: lol
09:54 AM Wolf__: fein set is only what, $300? lol
09:54 AM Jymmm: Loetmichel: Yes, you own a BMW =) Tuneups cost $1200
09:54 AM Wolf__: I have one in my wood shop… that I never use
09:55 AM Loetmichel: Jymmm: an 18 year old BMW that had cost 2100 eur last month ;)
09:55 AM Loetmichel: to buy it, not to do maintaineance ;)
09:55 AM Jymmm: Loetmichel: and tunes up STILL cost $1200 =)
09:55 AM Wolf__: tuneup?? is there anythign to tune in the newer cars
09:55 AM Loetmichel: not over here in germany
09:56 AM Loetmichel: Wolf__: mine is from 2001... so not really "newer"
09:56 AM Wolf__: no distributer or points I bet
09:56 AM Loetmichel: and Jymmm: i wouldnt tune a 243000km engine anyway
09:57 AM Loetmichel: points? they are out of fashion in cars for at least 4 decades now
09:57 AM Wolf__: yeah, like I said, nothing to really tune up anymore, just function check everything lol
09:57 AM Loetmichel: even my fathers old 80ties audio 100 had electronic ignition
09:58 AM Loetmichel: you can still get ne PROMs for the ECU and stuff
09:58 AM Wolf__: IMO thats modding vs old school idea of “tune up"
09:58 AM Loetmichel: or bigger intake hoses/polished intakes.
09:59 AM Loetmichel: kinda.
09:59 AM Wolf__: like resetting carbs for winter/summer
10:00 AM Loetmichel: the classic tune up corresonds pretty well with sitting on a dyno with a laptop plugged into the car and tuning the ECU values to get more power out though
10:00 AM Wolf__: I only have one car left that has that stuff in it, and when I restore/mod it its going EFI
10:00 AM Loetmichel: EFI?
10:00 AM Wolf__: electronic fuel injection
10:00 AM Loetmichel: ah, electronic fuel injection?
10:00 AM Loetmichel: figured it out ;)
10:01 AM Loetmichel: yeah, its a lot less painful than carburetors and poits
10:01 AM Wolf__: 1969 ford bronco w/ carb 5lt v8
10:01 AM Loetmichel: but aftermarket it probably needs a lot of tuning to get it "just right"
10:02 AM * Loetmichel can remember to have mounted teh K-jetronic from a 2 liter Audi 5e to a golf1 1,6 liter engine
10:02 AM Wolf__: just dropping a ’95 5.0 motor w/ 93 ecm and distributor in it, pretty much standalone stock system
10:02 AM Loetmichel: that was quite the tinkering ;)
10:03 AM Loetmichel: it had about 170hp afterwards though
10:03 AM Loetmichel: and guzzled fuel like that stuff was free
10:03 AM Wolf__: same setup I shoehorned in to a ’93 ford explorer
10:04 AM Wolf__: lol
10:04 AM Wolf__: oddly my fuel milage stayed the same on the little SUV going from a 4.0 v6 to 5.0 v8
10:05 AM Loetmichel: Wolf__: it was made to compete in slalom races
10:06 AM Loetmichel: it had a turned down clutch plate so it stalled below 2000RPM
10:06 AM Wolf__: this was build as a rock crawler lol
10:06 AM Loetmichel: and it had undersized tyres and a LOT stiffer springs so it rode like a gocart
10:07 AM Wolf__: lol polar opposite of my truck
10:07 AM Loetmichel: and accelerated like on a F14 catapult ;)
10:08 AM Loetmichel: as i said:made for slalom races
10:08 AM Wolf__: except for that part, the truck would launch great w/ the v8 and drag race program on the auto trans controller
10:08 AM Loetmichel: to do 8s on some walmart parking lots in close to zero time ;)
10:08 AM Wolf__: expect that it liked to S bend the rear leafs from the axle twist
10:09 AM Loetmichel: it only had a Vmax of 190kph though
10:09 AM Loetmichel: because of the small tyres
10:09 AM Wolf__: and that was during stop light launches on 33”x12.5” tires lol
10:10 AM Loetmichel: but was REALLY fun to drive on german rural roads with lots of bends and corners
10:10 AM Wolf__: I bet
10:10 AM Wolf__: my truck was kinda scary to drive at speed
10:10 AM Loetmichel: once we drove to a race, (yes, it was street legal) and had a porsche tailgating us...
10:11 AM Loetmichel: MAAN that was fun. about 20 corners later with no chance to overtake us he drove onto a parking lot
10:11 AM Wolf__: lol
10:12 AM Loetmichel: i like to imagine that he got out and threw the key away
10:12 AM Wolf__: too tall to go fast unless it was in a straight line https://i.imgur.com/LcRMiBB.jpg
10:13 AM Loetmichel: i can imagine
10:13 AM Wolf__: now its just sitting behind the shop rusting
10:14 AM Wolf__: plan to pull the drive line and swap it in to the ’69 bronco
10:15 AM Loetmichel: the porsche driver sat in our necks at every straight piece of road... every corner the the golf driver just steered in without even lifting the gas foot... and you saw the porsche drop back in the rearview mirror just to CRAWL around the bend and then accelerate back to our rear... must have been frustrating as hell ;)
10:16 AM Loetmichel: to see that little hatchback in front drive thru sharp corners at 100kph ;)
10:16 AM Loetmichel: like some "carrera car" on rails
10:16 AM Wolf__: I wouldnt mind modding my VW for better driving up no place to really have that much fun here =/
10:17 AM Wolf__: https://i.imgur.com/NYkyk1n.jpg I have the long golf
10:17 AM Loetmichel: as i said: germany. lots of rural roads thru mountainous landscape
10:17 AM Loetmichel: REALLY fun to drive
10:21 AM Loetmichel: nope the short one
10:21 AM Loetmichel: https://www.autoscout24.de/auto/vw/vw-golf/vw-golf-1/?PageSpeed=noscript <- that one
10:21 AM Loetmichel: MAN am i old ;)
10:21 AM Loetmichel: i think it was called "rabbit" in america
10:22 AM Wolf__: yeah, mine is a mk7 golf sportwagen
10:22 AM Loetmichel: it was already 12 years old when we rebuilt it into a slalom racer though
10:23 AM Loetmichel: sadly i cant find any pitures
10:23 AM Loetmichel: way to long ago
10:23 AM Loetmichel: :-)
10:23 AM Wolf__: I have seen a few sportwagens done up for SCCA track days
10:25 AM Wolf__: I just wish the mods for the TDI weren’t so damn expensive
11:22 AM jesseg: Loetmichel, lol, I just saw your mention of the VW rabbit. My older sister had one of those when I was a kid.
11:22 AM jesseg: even ran diesel
11:33 AM roycroft: i had an '83 diesel rabbit for a few years
11:33 AM roycroft: i fed it biodiesel and it liked it
11:33 AM roycroft: once i got rid of the rubber hoses/seals
11:37 AM jesseg: Can you just run straight vegi oil mixed with gasoline to get the right average weight?
11:37 AM jesseg: because making biodiesel is rather involved and in the end eats up just about all the cost savings of getting free feedstock
11:37 AM roycroft: no
11:38 AM jesseg: Does the glycerin gum stuff up too much?
11:38 AM roycroft: but diesel engines can run straight vegetable oil, as long as it is pre-heated so that it will flow through the fuel system
11:38 AM Rab: ^^
11:38 AM roycroft: folks who run svo install pre-heaters
11:38 AM jesseg: ahh cool
11:38 AM roycroft: usually fuel lines coiled around stuff that gets warm, like exhaust manifolds
11:39 AM roycroft: and then they add a small fuel tank for straight diesel that they use to start the engine cold
11:39 AM jesseg: right
11:39 AM Rab: Used oil needs to be very well filtered, and you'd better have a tough injection pump.
11:39 AM roycroft: i did not bother with any of that stuff
11:40 AM jesseg: how did you get your biodiesel?
11:40 AM roycroft: when i first got my rabbit, the new biodiesel firm in town would come to my house and fill my 55 gallon drum with fuel
11:40 AM roycroft: which i would pump myself into my rabbit
11:40 AM jesseg: oh LOL..
11:40 AM roycroft: but by the time the rabbit blew up there was a biodiesel filling station
11:40 AM jesseg: How much cheaper was biodiesel?
11:40 AM roycroft: and when i got my beetle (also diesel) i would just go to the filling station and have them pump biodiesel
11:40 AM roycroft: it cost roughly the same as petrodiesel
11:40 AM roycroft: but
11:40 AM roycroft: only when i got b99
11:41 AM roycroft: b100 was about $1 more/gallon
11:41 AM roycroft: oregon has a weird fuel subisidy
11:41 AM roycroft: where biofuel blends get a $1/gallon subsidy
11:41 AM roycroft: but pure biofuels do not
11:41 AM roycroft: so e85 gets the subsidy
11:41 AM jesseg: lol....
11:41 AM roycroft: as does b20 and b99
11:42 AM roycroft: but b100 does not
11:42 AM roycroft: nobody sells b100 for that reason
11:42 AM roycroft: i no longer have the beetle
11:42 AM jesseg: so without subsidies, biodesiel ultimately costs more
11:42 AM roycroft: and when it died that was right when the vw fuel emissions scandal was happening
11:42 AM jesseg: lol
11:43 AM roycroft: finding an affordable diesel vehicle around here was impossible
11:43 AM jesseg: in Oregon?
11:43 AM roycroft: so i got a prius instead
11:43 AM roycroft: yes
11:43 AM roycroft: i like biofuels
11:43 AM roycroft: but i did want some experience with a hybrid vehicle
11:43 AM roycroft: i'm not unhappy with the purchase
11:43 AM jesseg: ya the prius is nice
11:45 AM roycroft: i got one of the older ones - a sedan
11:45 AM roycroft: i hate the prius hatchback
11:45 AM roycroft: it looks dorky
11:45 AM roycroft: and more importantly, there is almost zero visibility through the rear window
11:45 AM jesseg: yeah what's with that anyway?
11:46 AM roycroft: probably an aerodynamic thing
11:46 AM jesseg: if I wanted to drive with my head in a bucket I can find cheaper ways to do it
11:46 AM roycroft: but the newer ones don't get that much better fuel economoy than mine
11:46 AM synfinatic_ is now known as synfinatic
11:46 AM roycroft: and the improvements are primarily in the engine and drivetrain, not the aerodynamics of the body
11:46 AM roycroft: if i'm honest, i think the real reason was to make the things stand otu
11:47 AM roycroft: surveys indicate that most prius owners say they own the vehicle to "make a statement", not to save money or lower their carbon footprint
11:48 AM roycroft: and if "make a statement" is the main reason folks buy them, then that very unique body style plays well
11:48 AM roycroft: my care doesn't look much different to a corolla at first glance
11:48 AM roycroft: car
11:48 AM roycroft: but the prius fastback can be identified at a long distance
12:33 PM pink_vampire: I have limit switches!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
12:33 PM pink_vampire: all 3d printed parts
12:45 PM veek: how do you attach teeth to a drive shaft? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ohLYdtIULEU usually you'd key it but here .. the next circular disk will interfere?
12:46 PM veek: each disk is offset wrt the other but they are all concentric to the shaft so.. you'd have to have a key for every disk which would be annoying..
12:47 PM veek: or is he.. just using a single 'tooth'/key like thing and offsetting the slot on the disk?
12:48 PM pink_vampire: veek: do you refer to the the hex shaft?
12:48 PM veek: pink_vampire, umm.. in that video.. i was wondering how the teeth-discs were being driven
12:49 PM pink_vampire: teeth-discs?
12:49 PM veek: 1sec i'll edit the screen capture
12:52 PM veek: pink_vampire, http://pix.toile-libre.org/?img=1555351173.png
12:53 PM veek: how has he driving those disc's via the drive shaft..?
12:53 PM gregcnc: probably the same hex shaft
12:54 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/YJpAG7g.png
12:54 PM veek: ah hmmm
12:55 PM veek: okay got it - thanks
12:56 PM pink_vampire: https://imgur.com/a/P3GxRAO the limit switches holders!
12:56 PM gregcnc: did you give up after the first 30 seconds? title is how to make.....lol
01:05 PM veek: gregcnc, oh! yeah - he's actually shown the innards
01:06 PM veek: 2min actually :p
01:06 PM gregcnc: ah well, you're forgiven
03:33 PM Loetmichel: jesseg: most older diesels run vegetable oil just fine
03:33 PM Loetmichel: needs to be at about 70°C to be the right density though
03:33 PM Loetmichel: to flow thru the filters/pump/injectors
03:37 PM Loetmichel: i had my old '94 Opel omega 2.0 turbodiesel running on 75% canola oil in the summer and 25% in the winter (rest diesel) just fine
03:37 PM Loetmichel: the diesel "additive" was just because it didnt like to start on pure canola when it got cold
03:38 PM Loetmichel: once it was heated up it did just fine
03:38 PM Loetmichel: but the newer OMega 2.5dti i drove until last month had a BMW engine with common rail injection
03:38 PM Loetmichel: the injectors wouldnt have survived canola oil sadly
03:39 PM gregcnc: is this anyone here? 5axis linuxcnc sim https://youtu.be/3PP6kRDuA2M
03:49 PM Deejay: gn8
07:08 PM Tom_L: jthornton, did you get those percentages from that spreadsheet?
07:20 PM gregcnc: machines are in season on craigslist the last few days
07:38 PM Tom_L: that sim is pretty cool
08:05 PM Elmo40: Loetmichel, my question is about soot buildup running straight veggy oil like that. the hydrocarbon chain is a lot longer and therefore will not burn as effectively in the same engine as petrol diesel.
08:06 PM Elmo40: as for newer engines, the particulate filters and such will foul up rather quickly.
08:38 PM likevinyl is now known as Guest40063
09:50 PM Lcvette: Logs
09:50 PM Lcvette: Log
09:51 PM Lcvette: 😢
09:51 PM Lcvette: logs
09:59 PM lcvette1: pcw_home
09:59 PM lcvette1: you in here?
10:00 PM lcvette1: have new tests on the new z97e-itx/ac mopbo and nG3258
10:00 PM lcvette1: not sure how to make sense of the histogram
10:04 PM ronox: heyo
10:04 PM ronox: i was wondering, any reason i cant upgrade a taig mill with 1/4hp motor to 1hp?
10:05 PM lcvette1: ronox
10:05 PM lcvette1: nope
10:05 PM lcvette1: do it
10:05 PM ronox: neato
10:05 PM ronox: also, should i get it as a BLDC?
10:06 PM lcvette1: only if it is super high end bldc
10:06 PM lcvette1: not a chinese unit they are no god
10:06 PM lcvette1: good
10:06 PM ronox: why is a chinese one bad?
10:06 PM lcvette1: pcw_home: https://imgur.com/gallery/Iyu8NEF
10:07 PM ronox: i mean, technically any motor i get will probably be from china anyway but, why is that?
10:08 PM lcvette1: they just don't make them very well
10:08 PM lcvette1: lack torque
10:08 PM ronox: so, basically fake specs
10:08 PM lcvette1: lack the right drive and drive tuning
10:08 PM ronox: i would only be getting a cheap motor, the controller id source proper or make myself
10:08 PM Tom_L: lcvette1 did you see the sim gregcnc posted?
10:09 PM lcvette1: i bought one and regretted it horribly
10:09 PM lcvette1: no where?
10:09 PM Tom_L: ^^
10:09 PM Rab: I have heard of issues with magnets coming unglued.
10:09 PM ronox: if the specs are fake its easy to test
10:09 PM Tom_L: in the logs you just read :)
10:09 PM ronox: oof
10:09 PM lcvette1: logs
10:10 PM Rab: ronox, I've been rocking a cheap "2.4KW" BLDC, no problems. It's probably comparable to the motor you have now though.
10:11 PM ronox: i dont have any motor, im considering buying a taig but it comes with a 1/4HP motor
10:11 PM Tom_L: better than what i've got
10:11 PM Rab: Maybe use the Taig, and see if the motor is really the limiting factor?
10:11 PM ronox: the general consensus is that taigs are great but the motor they come with is too weak to push it to its material limits
10:11 PM Rab: hmm
10:12 PM ronox: like, apparently it will do steel extremely poorly as is
10:12 PM lcvette1: ronox are you restricted to a taig?
10:12 PM ronox: sort of
10:12 PM lcvette1: thats a really small machine
10:12 PM ronox: i dont need anything big
10:12 PM lcvette1: there are other small machines that offer alot more
10:12 PM ronox: taig recently switched from 1./8 to 1/4hp
10:13 PM ronox: yeah but taig is ahead by a long shot in the cost/value
10:13 PM ronox: once i move out on my own i decided id buy a taig
10:13 PM ronox: unless for the same money i can get a heaps good used mill
10:13 PM lcvette1: cost /value is all about what you are wanting to do
10:13 PM Rab: ronox, a lot of people like the Consew DC servos as a cheap varispeed upgrade for light mills and lathes. You might check those out.
10:14 PM lcvette1: Tom_L: that sim is nice
10:14 PM lcvette1: !
10:14 PM Tom_L: yeah
10:14 PM Tom_L: Rab, what sort of supply do they run on?
10:15 PM lcvette1: ronox: taigs are really light weight machines, if you are just wanting to piddle thats fine but if you are wanting to make parts and maybe use it to make money with its not a great option
10:15 PM Rab: Tom_L, they come with a controller: http://www.consew.com/List/Machine-Stands/Servo-Motors
10:16 PM ronox: nah just for fun or my own stuff
10:16 PM ronox: here in australia theres not really a better option new for that price range
10:16 PM lcvette1: i don't think i woud go anything less then a bf20
10:17 PM Rab: ronox, there are "real" benchtop mills for, well, less than twice the price: https://www.precisionmatthews.com/product-category/millingmachines/benchmills/
10:17 PM lcvette1: yeah there pm25 is an equivalent model
10:17 PM lcvette1: the taig is a toy
10:18 PM Rab: Precision Matthews QCs those for sales to the US market, but they're a generic type of mill...probably available worldwide.
10:18 PM pcw_home: lcvette1: looks pretty good
10:18 PM Tom_L: that looks like the motor they aftermarket for the sherline for ~1k after it's all said n done
10:18 PM lcvette1: pcw_home: no clue what im looking at
10:18 PM lcvette1: in graph form
10:19 PM lcvette1: lol
10:20 PM lcvette1: pcw_home: which numbers are the ones to pay attention too and what a range to want to be in for servo use?
10:20 PM ronox: less than twice the price but overseas = 4x the price
10:20 PM lcvette1: am i in that range?
10:20 PM Rab: ronox, overseas where
10:20 PM ronox: literally anywhere
10:20 PM lcvette1: Australia
10:20 PM ronox: i live on an island
10:20 PM Rab: Hmm, yeah.
10:20 PM ronox: everything but china and indonesia is pricy
10:21 PM lcvette1: grab a chinese mill
10:21 PM ronox: plus everything is scaled to USD
10:21 PM lcvette1: thats where they all come from anyhow
10:21 PM ronox: taig is my choice because its already here in aus
10:21 PM pcw_home: Actually thats way better than needed for servo use, but the low latency seems to carry over to good Ethernet latency
10:21 PM ronox: and also taig has a great reputation as a capable entry level mill
10:21 PM lcvette1: others are as well i bet
10:21 PM lcvette1: have you asked Aaron?
10:21 PM lcvette1: DCTTeacher
10:21 PM ronox: for new, taig is the best choice right now
10:22 PM ronox: but as i said, ill still be trying first for a "real" mill 2nd hand
10:22 PM pcw_home: Even 100 usec latency would be OK for servo use at 1 KHz (especially if the DPLL is used)
10:23 PM lcvette1: pcw_home: no clue how to tell if im there or not
10:23 PM lcvette1: lol
10:23 PM lcvette1: hats what im trying to say
10:23 PM lcvette1: <----- clueless
10:23 PM ronox: anyway ty for the help i gotta go now lunch breaks over
10:23 PM lcvette1: :(
10:23 PM pcw_home: way more than there...
10:23 PM lcvette1: \o/ hurray!
10:24 PM lcvette1: great, can add Z97e-itx/ac to mobo list
10:25 PM lcvette1: its a baby tiny with built in bluetooth and wife too and an m.2 ssd :D
10:25 PM pcw_home: even the AMD with 80 usec latency would probably be OK (unless you were laser etching or something and needed a 4 KHz servo thresd)
10:25 PM pcw_home: thread
10:27 PM lcvette1: https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/rvpYXprLvuMrfklbKTYZmzlq
10:28 PM lcvette1: pcw_home: and it works for ethernet or 6i25/5i25
10:28 PM lcvette1: :D
10:29 PM pcw_home: Yeah, and the G3258 is snappy enough for decent user interface response
10:30 PM lcvette1: hurray!
10:30 PM lcvette1: hadn't considered it wouldn't be
10:30 PM lcvette1: :O
10:31 PM lcvette1: don't ask how but i built this one with all new components
10:31 PM lcvette1: lol
10:31 PM lcvette1: man new motherboards smell almost as good as new cars
10:31 PM pcw_home: I find the old D525 Atoms that are suggested for LinuxCNC rather painfully slow (not as bad as the RPI though)
10:32 PM lcvette1: never tried one of those
10:32 PM lcvette1: i also have one of the 8300 usdt elites with the i5 3470s on the way
10:32 PM pcw_home: It does show that Preempt-RT is OK for parallel port systems on the right hardware
10:33 PM lcvette1: that other h97m pro4 i got was DOA
10:33 PM lcvette1: its going back
10:33 PM pcw_home: Thats not good
10:33 PM lcvette1: sad i really wanted to test that i5 4570
10:33 PM lcvette1: specs on it looks good
10:34 PM pcw_home: I had a 8300 die but a bare MB is only about $19.00
10:34 PM pcw_home: common as dirt corporate PC
10:34 PM lcvette1: i saw that
10:35 PM lcvette1: i didn't realize how small they actually were
10:35 PM lcvette1: if i had i would have been buying them sooner
10:35 PM pcw_home: Ill have to try the later ones
10:35 PM lcvette1: which ones?
10:36 PM lcvette1: i saw a few with the 7 3770
10:36 PM lcvette1: i7*
10:37 PM pcw_home: I think the new one is a Elite 800 G1
10:37 PM lcvette1: :O
10:37 PM lcvette1: i could have gotten a newer one?
10:37 PM lcvette1: h man
10:40 PM lcvette1: https://www.ebay.com/itm/TESTED-HP-Elite-Desk-800-G1-USDT-i5-4590S-4gb-RAM-500gb-HDD-NO-OS/153229675823
10:40 PM pcw_home: https://www.ebay.com/itm/HP-EliteDesk-800-G1-USDT-Intel-i5-4570S-2-90GHz-180SSD-8Gig-Ram-Win-10-pro/233195222106?hash=item364b84b45a:g:eU4AAOSwHSRbqoJJ&frcectupt=true
10:41 PM pcw_home: ( added feature of being able to overwrite Win10 )
10:42 PM lcvette1: lol
10:42 PM lcvette1: yeah, ssd and 8gb of ram
10:44 PM pcw_home: looks like a deal, slightly slower CPU than the one you linked
10:44 PM pcw_home: bbl getting sleepy...
10:44 PM lcvette1: k