#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 14 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:17 AM fragalot: hi
03:50 AM Deejay: moin
04:39 AM jthornton: morning
04:39 AM XXCoder: hey
04:44 AM jthornton: going to try sprouting seeds again, someone gave me a tip of putting a fan on them to strengthen them like when in nature
04:45 AM XXCoder: what kind of seeds?
04:46 AM jthornton: tomatoes and peppers
04:46 AM XXCoder: cool :)
04:48 AM jthornton: she has some herbs too
04:49 AM XXCoder: careful with mint heh
04:49 AM jthornton: hows that?
04:49 AM XXCoder: little of it goes looong way and you get 100 times growth than you use
04:49 AM XXCoder: and it grows everywhere
04:51 AM jthornton: no mint seeds, I do have some strawberry seeds
04:53 AM XXCoder: yeah mint is overrated
04:54 AM XXCoder: if I recall right theres couple plants that ants really love to live at
04:54 AM XXCoder: if you planted em in such way some ants "leaks" into chicken area could be free bugs lol
05:02 AM jthornton: lol
05:06 AM jthornton: changed the transfer case actuator for 4 wheel drive but it still didn't work so I'm suspecting the transfer case control module is bad
05:06 AM XXCoder: hawkins died last year already.
05:12 AM jthornton: summit has a TCCM for $133 + $200 core charge that's the lowest I found for a Dorman Remanufactured Transfer Case Control Modules 599-105
05:21 AM jthornton: another windy day here
05:22 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nltNxh4PaZY lets see if guy preserves precision
05:22 AM XXCoder: or return it to precision heh
05:23 AM XXCoder: so rusty...
05:24 AM XXCoder: funny how comparatively simple design is
05:36 AM Tom_L: jthornton, did you try rock auto?
05:36 AM jthornton: no, I was trying to remember them
05:37 AM Tom_L: will beat any local price probably
05:37 AM Tom_L: wind switched directions as i figured it would
05:37 AM jthornton: they don't have one
05:37 AM Tom_L: ahh
05:39 AM jthornton: the transfer case actuator I got from o'reilly was the same price as anything I could find on line including rock auto
05:39 AM Tom_L: ok
05:39 AM Tom_L: they're usually alot cheaper than stores here
05:40 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/thread_mills/Thread_mill2.jpg
05:40 AM Tom_L: got my thread mills finally
05:40 AM Tom_L: profiles all programmed into the cad cam
05:40 AM XXCoder: nice!
05:41 AM jthornton: nice, made any threaded holes yet?
05:41 AM Tom_L: no, they just got here last evening
05:41 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/thread_mills/Mill_holder_blanks.jpg
05:41 AM XXCoder: jthornton: looks like he fixed it, and preserved precision
05:42 AM jthornton: o'reilly is $238 lol
05:42 AM Tom_L: gonna try to make some holders
05:42 AM XXCoder: he turned old but very rusty watchmaker micrometer to nice one
05:42 AM jthornton: a 5 qt bottle of castrol at o'reilly was $30 at walmart $19
05:43 AM Tom_L: yeah
05:43 AM jthornton: what's the size range of the thread mills?
05:43 AM Tom_L: i generally get stuff like that there
05:43 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/thread_mills/Thread_mill1.jpg
05:43 AM Tom_L: i knew somebody would ask :)
05:43 AM XXCoder: tom cn see future!
05:44 AM Tom_L: anything below 10 i think i can rigid tap
05:44 AM Tom_L: anything above 3/4 i don't need to be messin with
05:44 AM jthornton: so that's like owning a whole drawer full of taps... I wonder if you can do metric as well with them?
05:44 AM Tom_L: i'm sure
05:45 AM Tom_L: just program the helix
05:45 AM XXCoder: make 4" bolt and nut for lols
05:45 AM Tom_L: if the angle is the same
05:45 AM XXCoder: alum since its for showoff not actual usage
05:45 AM jthornton: yea the angle is the same
05:45 AM Tom_L: then yes
05:45 AM Tom_L: internal and external
05:45 AM jthornton: my BP 308 has a thread mill routine but I've never tried it
05:46 AM Tom_L: onlinecarbide
05:47 AM Tom_L: i'll probably need to cut the shank on the 3/4 one
05:47 AM Tom_L: since the tube on the sherline spindle is too small
05:51 AM Tom_L: these wouldn't be that practical for production but i'm not
05:52 AM jthornton: http://www.lakeshorecarbide.com/14-20carbidethreadmill.aspx
05:52 AM jthornton: I have that one but never tried it lol
05:52 AM XXCoder: yeah nonprods can get away with much more
05:52 AM Tom_L: yeah those would be quicker
05:52 AM XXCoder: oh yeah jthornton remember the office mill? the tiny one i griped about?
05:53 AM XXCoder: its on sale for $25k now lol
05:53 AM Tom_L: and i don't think you could use them for metric
05:54 AM jthornton: that one I have is for one thread size only, the single points you can
05:54 AM Tom_L: right
05:54 AM jthornton: only $25k
05:54 AM jthornton: are yours carbide?
05:55 AM Tom_L: yes
05:55 AM Tom_L: coated
05:55 AM XXCoder: jt yeah pretty lot cheaper than new which is $60k. its ... tiny.
05:55 AM Tom_L: http://onlinecarbide.com/sipithmi.html
05:55 AM XXCoder: its you can put it in closet small
05:56 AM XXCoder: for one offs once a while its decent I guess, but production of 1000 parts? hell no.
05:56 AM XXCoder: me and coworker broke both of em running so many parts.
05:56 AM XXCoder: got rebuilt
05:57 AM Tom_L: a bit cheaper than lakeshore too
05:58 AM jthornton: quite a bit cheaper... I wonder why
05:58 AM Tom_L: http://onlinecarbide.com/9125020.html
05:58 AM Tom_L: small company i think
05:58 AM Tom_L: they seem to be good quality
05:59 AM Tom_L: free shipping over 250
06:00 AM Tom_L: that's not hard to meet with carbide
06:15 AM weenerdog: howdy howdy
06:52 AM jthornton: morning
06:54 AM jthornton: well it was not the actuator so now I'm thinking the transfer case control module is bad...
06:57 AM XXCoder: giant screwdriver lol https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nDdv93R1jUE
08:36 AM gloops: well i have to say china is getting its act together on the shipping these days
08:37 AM gloops: 3 cutters here, bought just over a week ago
08:51 AM gregcnc: now i understand why PM hates on hobbyists so much
08:51 AM gregcnc: on a hobby forum a guy describes chuck runout problem
08:52 AM gregcnc: next 2 posts give good answers about finding the issue
08:52 AM gregcnc: next describe how to level the bed
08:52 AM gregcnc: next
08:53 AM gregcnc: damn.. next 45 post describe leveling the bed
08:54 AM gregcnc: guy has .030" of runout on a test bar 4" from the chuck one two different chucks
09:35 AM SpeedEvil: has he tried leveling the bed/
09:37 AM methods_: definitely level the bed
09:37 AM methods_: before i even hang pictures i make sure my lathe bed is level
09:53 AM gregcnc: throw in some scraping and 100 year old books on mahchine building.
09:54 AM SpeedEvil: i find 'foundations of machine accuracy' very useful to tear the pages out of to use as shims to level my lathe bed.
09:55 AM SpeedEvil: More seriously, getting a good idea of how many orders of magnitude a change will affect is hard.
09:55 AM gregcnc: that book is wonderful, but few hobbyist operate in that realm
09:56 AM SpeedEvil: yeah. ~page 20, 'this level was found to be insufficiently rigid' - 6" wide 6' long level that would kill a man if it dropped on him.
09:58 AM gregcnc: I understand why the guys want to level the bed (even though it's on a wood shed floor)
09:58 AM gregcnc: it's just there are bigger fish to fry before bothering
10:02 AM SpeedEvil: Take the chuck off and see if there is a badger caught in the taper.
10:22 AM pink_vampire: hi
10:35 AM gregcnc: In the time i spent looking for a tool I could have made it, now I still have to make it
10:35 AM pink_vampire: what tool?
10:36 AM gregcnc: something like this, but smaller http://www.iscar.com/eCatalog/Family.aspx?fnum=2308&mapp=TG&app=263&GFSTYP=I
10:43 AM methods_: sketchy lookin id groover
10:43 AM methods_: can't imagine you could put much pressure on that
10:45 AM pink_vampire: methods_: it is have 2 internal tapers
10:51 AM gregcnc: yeah goofy back face groove. for aluminum parts will try making one in steel
10:53 AM methods_: oh probably be alright in some alum
10:53 AM methods_: i'd hate to try that on anything else
10:55 AM pink_vampire: why do i love 10-32 screws?
11:18 AM PL7icnc: someone here from the forum
11:20 AM pink_vampire: PL7icnc: ?
11:21 AM PL7icnc: i did alot of postiungs on Show your stuff and knowone answers as it is on NO Replay
11:22 AM PL7icnc: somone shudt only say Nice Thanks or even post the tread of this list
11:28 AM pink_vampire: what stuff?
11:28 AM PL7icnc: just hit NO Replay if you are locked in
11:30 AM PL7icnc: Q to all WHY is on the Forum no direct Link or Main post Stickt to this 24/7 Helpline
11:30 AM PL7icnc: is this 2 Different things from Different Partys that run the System
11:31 AM PL7icnc: as i came into trouble on freecad
11:31 AM pink_vampire: can you send here a link?
11:32 AM PL7icnc: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/noreplies
11:34 AM pink_vampire: why there is no link to this "help line"?
11:34 AM pink_vampire: this is the irc and as far as i remember there is a link
11:35 AM pink_vampire: http://www.linuxcnc.org/community/
11:36 AM PL7icnc: agree but this is not known in forum
11:36 AM pink_vampire: mm maybe
11:39 AM pink_vampire: what do you suggest to do with the threads with NO Replay on them?
11:39 AM PL7icnc: just replay a word numberr or so it comes of the list
11:40 AM pink_vampire: what do you mean "so it comes of the list "??
11:40 AM PL7icnc: in this list are only tread that have no replay by a other user
11:41 AM PL7icnc: so you easy find new postings not answerd
11:42 AM pink_vampire: still dont get your point
11:43 AM PL7icnc: No Problem
11:44 AM PL7icnc: Need to get along
12:42 PM gregcnc: night shift https://www.instagram.com/p/Bu_qDojA9SV/
12:55 PM gloops: oooh..Mays govmt just won 2 votes very narrowly for anyone following brexit, 2 votes
12:56 PM Rab: Guy's wife should drive to the shop and MDI M08.
01:11 PM pink_vampire: Rab: lol!!!!!!!!!!
01:13 PM pink_vampire: https://www.instagram.com/p/Bul8OfkgO8c/
01:37 PM gloops: im not seeing the logic in some ebay bidding, Record Power SS16V 16" Variable Speed Scroll Saw (£109 new with 5 year guarantee) just sold for £77 used no guarantee
01:38 PM gloops: why didnt they just buy a new one? postage is £12
01:38 PM gregcnc: false economy
01:38 PM gloops: stupid really
01:50 PM gregcnc: no law against that
01:56 PM gloops: no, but if id put that on for sale it would have made £7
01:58 PM pink_vampire: what is the correct way to do a face cut on the lathe?
02:04 PM gregcnc: are you having trouble with a part?
02:04 PM gloops: power cross feed is handy
02:05 PM pink_vampire: the tool dig in to the material
02:06 PM gregcnc: how wide is the cut? What tool?
02:06 PM gloops: it is a facing tool?
02:06 PM pink_vampire: not sure
02:07 PM gregcnc: gloops what's a facing tool and why does it matter?
02:07 PM R2E4: hey all....
02:08 PM pink_vampire: hi R2E4
02:08 PM R2E4: Can I set a digital input true to use logically?
02:08 PM R2E4: hi pink
02:09 PM R2E4: for example I need to set a motion.digital.input true in a remap.
02:09 PM pink_vampire: not sure
02:09 PM R2E4: and I cant find out how to do it.
02:10 PM R2E4: I can fire a relay and tie that into an input, but I dont want to waste an IO
02:11 PM gloops: gregcnc its a tool designed for that operation, with efficient cutting angles - sorry im cooking something atm
02:11 PM gregcnc: gloops, can you face without a facing tool?
02:11 PM gloops: i often just swing the tool ive got in to an angle and face off with that
02:12 PM gloops: gregcnc put it this way, you cant face with any tool
02:12 PM pink_vampire: but do you lock the Z axis on the lathe during face cut?
02:13 PM gregcnc: I must be doing it wrong. VC faces just fine when used properly....
02:13 PM gloops: you might need to do that with some lathes
02:13 PM gregcnc: VCxx inserts
02:14 PM pink_vampire: I dont have a lock on any of the lathe axis
02:14 PM gloops: so you can face with a round tip finishing tool at 90 degrees?
02:15 PM gloops: pink_vampire it sounds like youre finding the tool is rebounding from the workpiece? chattering, digging in etc, i.e there is some movement in the machine
02:17 PM pink_vampire: the force from the cut make the tool move to the side
02:17 PM gregcnc: pink it's just normal lathe stuff. material, width of cut, feed rate, and so on. without any idea of what you have and are doing start at the smallest successful cut and work your way up.
02:17 PM gregcnc: If nothing works, we need some detail
02:18 PM pink_vampire: i know my tool is not on center
02:18 PM gloops: photo pls
02:19 PM gregcnc: how hard is the material?
02:19 PM pink_vampire: i need to clean the area next to the lathe and make a video
02:19 PM pink_vampire: bronze
02:19 PM gregcnc: is the tool sharp?
02:19 PM pink_vampire: yes
02:19 PM gloops: oh dont bother about the cleaning up, see some of the pics ive posted lol we're shameless on here
02:19 PM pink_vampire: but i mean in general
02:20 PM gloops: centre height?
02:20 PM pink_vampire: gloops: there is cables on the floor next to the lathe
02:21 PM pink_vampire: yes, I need to shim the tool and i dont have any correct shim so the tool is "about center"
02:21 PM gloops: lol, actually i found a very realistic rubber rat in an empty house ive been working in today, im going to get it for future photos
02:22 PM pink_vampire: the tool post i have is the one with the 8 bolts
02:22 PM gloops: facing bronze should be difficult in my humble experience
02:22 PM gloops: shouldnt
02:23 PM pink_vampire: i know
02:23 PM gregcnc: OD cut fine?
02:23 PM pink_vampire: no
02:23 PM pink_vampire: the tool move
02:23 PM gregcnc: bronze alloy?
02:24 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: when you say "about center", is it above center perhaps?
02:25 PM gregcnc: this should go more like, I have xxx alloy, RPM=xxx, doc=xxx, feed=xxx, and the tool is tully well and good because xxx, but I still have this problem
02:25 PM gregcnc: oh and on my maximat 7
02:26 PM gregcnc: hope some can help I have to get something done
02:26 PM pink_vampire: fragalot: about 1mm below
02:27 PM fragalot: put 10 sheet of paper under it or something if you have nothing else
02:27 PM fragalot: or coke cans
02:27 PM fragalot: and for reference, 1mm below center is not "about center" :°
02:27 PM fragalot: :)
02:28 PM pink_vampire: brass 380 alloy, RPM=350, doc=no idea, feed=no idea i'm feed by hand
02:29 PM pink_vampire: fragalot: I try to shim it but it slide out and the tool post get bent
02:30 PM fragalot: is it possible that you have some oil under the clamping surfaces?
02:31 PM gloops: the tool is slipping...oh dear
02:32 PM gloops: so the tool is protruding just a bit more than required to make this cut - as opposed to sticking way out?
02:32 PM gregcnc: is the spindle running the right direction?
02:34 PM roycroft: so $45 refund on that used motor
02:34 PM roycroft: that's pretty fair, i think
02:35 PM pink_vampire: i think the tool post have some flex, so then you tight the 3 screw for the tool, it deform the tool post, ans make the tool push to the side
02:35 PM fragalot: sounds like a really shitty toolpost
02:35 PM roycroft: half the cost of a set of bearings, and i'm not going to replace the bearings unless they start making more noise
02:35 PM roycroft: or seize up suddenly
02:35 PM gloops: can you mount the tool in line with z? like facing the chuck
02:36 PM fragalot: but a paper shim MIGHT help a tiny bit, as it increases friction if the surface isn't perfectly parallel
02:36 PM pink_vampire: and if you open the big nut that hold the tool post, that make it flex even more
02:40 PM gloops: ok, dont open the big nut
02:40 PM pink_vampire: i took a picture now
02:40 PM fragalot: and don't over-tighten those 3 screws
02:41 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/K1IfyzC.png
02:41 PM pink_vampire: i can push a filler gauge in the middle there
02:41 PM pink_vampire: and the shim is just 3/16 tool
02:41 PM fragalot: your lathe tool is sticking out too far, and is not very well supported by the looks of it
02:43 PM pink_vampire: but this is how they made it
02:43 PM gloops: you might just get that 3rd crucial bolt on that tool if you pull it back
02:44 PM gloops: the leverage from the tip of the tool back to the clamping point is important here pink_vampire
02:44 PM gloops: reduce it
02:45 PM pink_vampire: it is 1/4" tool
02:45 PM gloops: the amount it is sticking out from the toolpost
02:45 PM pink_vampire: it is very small tool
02:45 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/WXnCESd.png
02:46 PM gloops: you only the job to clear the toolpost, you dont need an inch and half of spare tool sticking out, its causing leverage thats moving the tool
02:46 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: you also have nothing directly below the tool where the screw pushes down on it
02:47 PM gloops: you also need packing UNDER every bolt
02:47 PM gloops: its just bending the tool
02:47 PM fragalot: so reduce stick-out as much as possible like gloops is suggesting, and put something under every single place the bolt pushes down
02:48 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/QltYt12.png the tool
02:48 PM fragalot: clamp it so the first screw is right behind the insert, where that mark is
02:48 PM gloops: these things are often forgotten with industrial machines, but theyre vital for smaller hobby type machines, its all about knowing how to tweak and milk that thing to get acceptable results
02:49 PM fragalot: BUT, but something underneath every point the bolts push down on it
02:49 PM fragalot: gloops: it's just as vital for big machines
02:50 PM gloops: fragalot well the same principles apply of course, but you can get away with being slack with much heavier duty tools and posts and bolts and so on
02:50 PM fragalot: true
02:50 PM gregcnc: wind the compound all the way back, and that compound setup is known to be uh subpar
02:51 PM fragalot: yeah, I got rid of mine all together on my lathe for most jobs
02:51 PM pink_vampire: there better tool post?
02:51 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: nearly every quick-change toolpost out there will be better
02:51 PM gloops: you do want the jibs erring on tight
02:52 PM fragalot: I personally like the dixon style toolholders
02:52 PM pink_vampire: there is no play on the gibs
02:52 PM fragalot: just because the chinese clones I can get fairly locally appear to be consistent in quality
02:53 PM pink_vampire: how is multifix?
02:53 PM fragalot: fantastic if you can afford it
02:54 PM fragalot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/TMhVhi6nS4u8rHVB6 <-- this is my lathe setup from god knows how long ago
02:54 PM fragalot: compound has been replaced with a solid chunk of tool steel
02:55 PM fragalot: with the toolchange block partly recessed to ensure it has absolutely nowhere to go
02:55 PM pink_vampire: how do you cut tapers?
02:55 PM fragalot: and it's bolted down with an M16x0.75 thread because I could.
02:55 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: remove that block & put the compound back on
02:55 PM fragalot: 95% of what I need to do on my lathe works with just that block
02:55 PM fragalot: and it's well worth the extra rigidity on that tiny thing
02:56 PM pink_vampire: how do you chamfer?
02:57 PM fragalot: HSS toolbit ground to whatever angle I need
02:57 PM fragalot: that little lathe will do chamfers or form tools up to ~4mm before it chatters
02:57 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/FNnf8V2.png
02:58 PM pink_vampire: i did it on steel
02:58 PM pink_vampire: and i want to make it in brass
02:58 PM pink_vampire: or bronze
02:59 PM fragalot: 350rpm seems awfully slow for that part
02:59 PM fragalot: but the main issue you are having with your tool is because of how you've got it clamped up
03:00 PM fragalot: the tool is rocking back & forth over the toolbit you have stacked under it
03:00 PM fragalot: so you only have a single point where it clamps, giving it an easy spot to rotate on
03:00 PM pink_vampire: do you think with better tool post it will be better?
03:00 PM fragalot: yes, but I also think you can do it better with your current toolpost
03:00 PM gloops: not if you clamp the same
03:01 PM pink_vampire: clamp what?
03:01 PM fragalot: hang on i'll make a quick sketch
03:01 PM pink_vampire: thanks
03:01 PM gloops: the bolt, needs to be pressing the tool onto something solid, the rear bolt holding your tool has nothing underneath it
03:02 PM gloops: the bolt is not securing the tool to anything, put the pack under the bolt
03:02 PM pink_vampire: you mean the bolt in the middle?
03:02 PM gloops: yes, look at the packing in relation to that bolt
03:03 PM gloops: not so common - https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/filing-machine/143164415250?
03:04 PM pink_vampire: nehhh
03:04 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: https://imgur.com/a/nUwXPyC
03:04 PM fragalot: green = screws, brown = tool, purple or blue = the 'shim'
03:05 PM pink_vampire: i see what you mean
03:05 PM pink_vampire: this is the only close enough shim i have
03:06 PM pink_vampire: maybe i need to machine something
03:06 PM fragalot: then find something else where you have 2 of, or that is long enough
03:06 PM fragalot: yes!
03:06 PM fragalot: do that.
03:06 PM pink_vampire: but i want QCTP anyway
03:06 PM fragalot: do that too.
03:06 PM gloops: you should have a box full of packs
03:06 PM fragalot: :-)
03:06 PM pink_vampire: this way i don't want to put any more time in to that one
03:07 PM pink_vampire: gloops: this is something that you buy? or made?
03:07 PM fragalot: make
03:07 PM fragalot: any old crap with an even thickness can be used
03:08 PM gloops: packs? just save any useful looking bits of steel, offcuts etc
03:08 PM fragalot: you could probably even just shove a parallel under there
03:08 PM pink_vampire: no!!!!!!
03:09 PM pink_vampire: what size of multifix do i need?
03:09 PM gloops: place i worked years ago, the old timers knew the exact thickness of different newspapers, tin foils, cigarette packets and so on, packing is a science
03:09 PM fragalot: what size is your lathe
03:10 PM pink_vampire: you men the original tool post?
03:10 PM fragalot: that too
03:12 PM pink_vampire: 17" of travel on the Z, 3.5" on the X, 2" on the compound
03:13 PM fragalot: pink_vampire: here are the sizes that are available: http://www.eurospares.com/graphics/metalwork/multifixbrochure/multifix5.jpg
03:17 PM pink_vampire: the tool post (the 8 bolt thing) is 55mm X 55mm
03:21 PM Papagno: Hi at all. i have a problem with actual master with external_offset . in sim/axis/external_offset/jwp_z.ini if coomand g0 x100, the x axis run at 114mm/min , but max_velocity in ini file is =2 (120mm/min). this because parameter the exsternal offset : OFFSET_AV_RATIO = 0.05 . if change this , rapid g0 change value , not respect max_velocity value, maxvelocity value is scaled on OFFSET_AV_RATIO = 0.05. i thing not normal this . ha
03:21 PM Papagno: ve some idea
03:26 PM fragalot: no clue, sorry
03:27 PM fragalot: you may want to ask on forums, I don't think anyone on IRC here today will be able to answer that
03:28 PM gloops: andypugh did attempt an answer, the question is not clear
05:09 PM Deejay: gn8
05:49 PM _unreal_: just sold my truck finally
05:49 PM _unreal_: the truck owes me nothing
05:50 PM _unreal_: been a loyal old chap
05:50 PM renesis: i dont think trucks work like that
05:52 PM _unreal_: ?
06:36 PM ziper: _unreal_, how much?
06:38 PM _unreal_: junk car buyer $220
06:38 PM ziper: that bad?
06:38 PM _unreal_: ?
06:38 PM _unreal_: 93 ranger
06:38 PM ziper: i was truck shopping
06:38 PM _unreal_: manual
06:39 PM ziper: I looked at one of those
06:39 PM ziper: regular cab
06:39 PM _unreal_: and it spent 20+ years in maine
06:39 PM ziper: extremely uncomfrotable, my back was sore after only driving around the block
06:39 PM _unreal_: this one was the extended bed
06:39 PM _unreal_: nice old truck but just to old to tired
06:39 PM ziper: i couldnt find a pickup i liked so I bought a volvo
06:39 PM _unreal_: ouch
06:41 PM a-u: My old van was loyal, but after a hit-n-run folded the left corner, the insurance co. said my van couldn't work like that.
08:32 PM pink_vampire: DOne!
08:32 PM Tom_L: so you say
08:44 PM pcw_home: The 2017 date code pumpernickel from the back of the refrigerator shelf was a big hit with the sheep, wonder how long it keeps?
08:45 PM pink_vampire: I just love it
08:45 PM pcw_home: no mold nothing obvious wrong
08:54 PM Wolf__: 0.o
09:02 PM pink_vampire: https://imgur.com/a/DHIUhbW
09:03 PM pink_vampire: the new wiring is done!!!
09:03 PM pink_vampire: Wolf__: pcw_home Tom_L
09:06 PM Tom_L: looks good from here
09:07 PM Wolf__: wiring cabinet bigger then mill =P
09:12 PM pink_vampire: i know it is large but i like to see what I'm doing, and make changes over time easy
09:12 PM Wolf__: looks good tho, would expect to see a machine next to it the size of a bedroom =D
09:14 PM Wolf__: I’m more of someone who would stuff all of that in to something the size of a breadbox lol
09:15 PM pink_vampire: just the C axis stuff is one din rail
09:18 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, I get cool stuff all the time from the boats
09:19 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: what do you mean?
09:19 PM _unreal_: dat4032 and dat4531d
09:20 PM _unreal_: expensive mount hardware
09:20 PM _unreal_: they just toss and upgrade
09:21 PM pink_vampire: what kind of cool stuff?
09:21 PM Wolf__: any flir day/night systems =)
09:21 PM _unreal_: data control
09:22 PM _unreal_: serial network controllers
09:22 PM _unreal_: err NETWORK serial controls
09:22 PM _unreal_: I could list all kinds of stuff I have on hand
09:22 PM _unreal_: mostly to do with power control 120v 220v DC
09:23 PM _unreal_: flir?
09:23 PM _unreal_: not sure what that is?
09:24 PM Wolf__: https://www.flir.com/applications/marine/
09:25 PM Wolf__: gimbal stabilized day/thermal camera systems
09:26 PM _unreal_: I have installed cameras like that
09:27 PM pink_vampire: i need to clean here
09:28 PM Wolf__: guessing the serial data stuff is for navi or drive by wire syste?
09:28 PM Wolf__: system
09:29 PM _unreal_: no
09:29 PM * Wolf__ doesnt know much about boats, except they are money pits
09:29 PM _unreal_: control systems
09:29 PM _unreal_: litterally rs232 over network converters
09:29 PM _unreal_: in rack style devices like pink_vampire's rack thing
09:30 PM pink_vampire: it is a gun cabinet
09:30 PM _unreal_: i'm sure
09:30 PM _unreal_: do any of you run ubuntu?
09:30 PM pink_vampire: debian
09:31 PM _unreal_: driving me crazy I dont have a system currently that I can use to compile a kernel for my tinkerboard https://www.armbian.com/tinkerboard/ https://www.armbian.com/tinkerboard/#collapse-widget-5-0-0-3
09:31 PM _unreal_: I just need to compile the RT kernel
09:32 PM _unreal_: then I can start moving forward with my cnc project
09:32 PM pink_vampire: it is like a rpi?
09:32 PM _unreal_: same form factor but 2x cpu 2x mem 1/10 more in price
09:33 PM pink_vampire: i have rpi 3
09:33 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, https://drive.google.com/open?id=1Rd4__AhurmXlam7M9dkPl3FW6Fd86syu
09:33 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=12w7mdaLZfg6YlgMkCSs9n7jdiRA-Ypnb
09:33 PM pink_vampire: i want to control light with it
09:33 PM Wolf__: I have compiled using a live boot usb iso, installed on to sd card, boot sd and use that to compile, then installed kernel on new machine
09:33 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1h94PGdjErqZsxKFpq6_c46f9bY5gFoj_ https://drive.google.com/open?id=1U4SYKc54gfdusZqxosfNLQ4-V0W9v8Dy
09:35 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, I built the mold to make the shell
09:36 PM pink_vampire: insane!
09:36 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1QkWgHpnCRs6qtWHWWXF8qHhw2aM0cW4l
09:36 PM pink_vampire: look amazing
09:36 PM _unreal_: that shell is for RPI like SBC's
09:37 PM pink_vampire: it is going to be cnc controller?
09:37 PM _unreal_: yes
09:37 PM _unreal_: I just need to get the damn real time kernel built for it and I can install linuxcnc
09:37 PM pink_vampire: i want to build an inverted bipod cnc
09:37 PM _unreal_: but I dont have a system currently that I can load ubuntu on
09:38 PM _unreal_: hum
09:39 PM _unreal_: What sucks is I only have one latop I could "install" on but its display is no good
09:39 PM Wolf__: doh, external monitor?
09:39 PM _unreal_: and I really dont want to try and get it hooked upto this monitor because I'm using this SHIT desk.... had to give my good desk up when I moved south :( killed me
09:40 PM _unreal_: told my fam. I'd send them money soon as I could to ship it down
09:40 PM _unreal_: FUCKERS SOLD IT
09:40 PM _unreal_: to much weight
09:40 PM _unreal_: couldnt bring it :(
09:40 PM Wolf__: I used my cad computer to compile, you dont need to install linux on to the PC hdd, you can use usb iso and then to SD card in a usb adapter
09:41 PM pink_vampire: is that arm cpu?
09:41 PM Wolf__: just boot the computer off the usb
09:42 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, the tinker board yes
09:42 PM _unreal_: there are 2 versions one is cheap the other is very expensive and almost noting extra
09:42 PM pink_vampire: can i use the same computer to drive 2 machines?
09:42 PM _unreal_: the difference is one has emmc on board the other does not
09:43 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, depends on your software
09:43 PM _unreal_: if your using grbl yes easy
09:43 PM _unreal_: if your trying to use mach or linuxcnc I'm not sure
09:44 PM pink_vampire: i'm talking about linux cnc
09:44 PM _unreal_: I dont know
09:45 PM _unreal_: depends on the controller I would guess, though I dont know if it can control multi machines, then again if your using a network interface for command/control I'm sure the option is there
09:45 PM _unreal_: not option, opportunity
09:46 PM pink_vampire: I'm using LPT
09:46 PM pink_vampire: I just want to control the bipod
09:47 PM pink_vampire: https://www.maslowcnc.com
09:47 PM pink_vampire: like that one
09:53 PM _unreal_: looking
09:55 PM _unreal_: I remember when that came out
09:55 PM _unreal_: was all the range
09:55 PM _unreal_: rage
09:57 PM Wolf__: I like the concept, efficient use of space if you wall mount it like a panel saw
09:57 PM pink_vampire: do you know how to make it in linux cnc?
09:57 PM pink_vampire: Wolf__: this is way i liked it
09:58 PM pink_vampire: i want to replace the router with the dremel 4000
09:58 PM Wolf__: should be just a matter of programing the kins
09:58 PM pink_vampire: and make it 3*4 foot
09:58 PM pink_vampire: and use wires instead of the chain
10:00 PM _unreal_: wires will loose there location
10:01 PM pink_vampire: no for the stuff i want to do
10:02 PM Wolf__: 3x4’ work area? or frame?
10:02 PM pink_vampire: frame
10:03 PM Wolf__: wonder if that design scales well, I would think lighter weight tool sled may not work well
10:04 PM pink_vampire: i want it as a portable cnc machine
10:05 PM _unreal_: a scaled down vesion of that machine?
10:06 PM pink_vampire: correct
10:06 PM _unreal_: even using a dremel I would presume that it still needs a considerable amount of weight
10:06 PM _unreal_: what would you be cutting?
10:07 PM pink_vampire: pvc foam
10:07 PM _unreal_: hum