#linuxcnc Logs

Mar 05 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:33 AM miss0r2: goodmorning from a wind & rainswept Denmark
12:37 AM fragalot: mornin'
12:37 AM fragalot: have you finished that dolly yet?
12:37 AM miss0r2: hehe, I'm done dreaming about it. Does that count?
12:37 AM fragalot: slacker
12:37 AM miss0r2: lol
12:37 AM miss0r2: I'll get straight to it :D
12:37 AM miss0r2: after I finish my coffee & cigarette
12:37 AM jym: miss0r2: Which century?
12:37 AM pink_vampire: hi
12:37 AM miss0r2: jym: :D
12:37 AM miss0r2: it better be this one. It has to be shipped monday
12:37 AM miss0r2: hello pink_vampire. did you get your servo working?
12:37 AM jym: miss0r2: Ya YA we know.... the dog ate it, blah blah blah
12:37 AM miss0r2: jym: hehe.. nah, I better get it done in time or my boss-man will kill me
12:37 AM pink_vampire: servo is working but not the dc controller yet
12:37 AM fragalot: miss0r2: you ARE making this out of titanium, right?
12:37 AM pink_vampire: i need to move stuff around in the panel and insert one more wire duct
12:37 AM miss0r2: fragalot: but ofc... its a "special" titanium with the weight of aluminium AND!! the strength of aluminium! \o/
12:38 AM miss0r2: pink_vampire: *sigh* :) why?
12:38 AM fragalot: miss0r2: aerospace grade aluminium?
12:38 AM pink_vampire: miss0r2: what are you making?
12:38 AM miss0r2: fragalot: hehe no. I'm just using 6082 T6
12:38 AM pink_vampire: miss0r2: no idea, i just love it look good
12:39 AM miss0r2: pink_vampire: I'm making two camera dolleys
12:39 AM fragalot: miss0r2: this is the first time someone ha said no.. I ws pretty convinced aerospace grade was basically a universal term :D
12:39 AM fragalot: oh so it's TWO dolleys now
12:39 AM miss0r2: its always been two!
12:39 AM miss0r2: this is why I'm in such a hurry
12:39 AM fragalot: :D
12:41 AM miss0r2: pink_vampire: Are you seriously rearranging your cabinet with another cable duct for cosmetics? :S
12:41 AM pink_vampire: yes
12:41 AM miss0r2: o.0
12:41 AM pink_vampire: i want all the C axis stuff on the same din rail
12:42 AM miss0r2: makes sense.
12:44 AM pink_vampire: also prevent cross of high and low voltages
12:44 AM fragalot: miss0r2: don't pretend you wouldn't do the same
12:44 AM fragalot: because we both know you're a poor electrical cabinet planner :D
12:45 AM miss0r2: fragalot: that being said; its been a long time since I had to re-do the layout. :) but yeah, I would
12:45 AM miss0r2: I usualy have it on a table, with all the components kicking around for a test setup before I do any drilling/threading
12:45 AM fragalot: :)
12:45 AM fragalot: they STILL haven't fired up that deckel at work btw
12:46 AM miss0r2: bah!
12:46 AM fragalot: it's so sad to see that beauty just sitting there
12:46 AM miss0r2: all shiny'n stuff
12:46 AM pink_vampire: also the 14awg wire it is insane!
12:46 AM fragalot: especially the toolholders
12:46 AM fragalot: about 200 or so holders came with the machine
12:46 AM miss0r2: bring a bucket of chips from home, and pour it into the chip pan :) just to see people "WHO USED IT ?!"
12:46 AM fragalot: all pretty damn high quality
12:46 AM fragalot: hahaha
12:47 AM fragalot: I need to figure out a way to deal with the chips in my shed better
12:47 AM fragalot: because using the facing mill is not a fun experience
12:47 AM Wolf__: 14awg = insane? wtf
12:47 AM miss0r2: thats like 2mm^2?
12:48 AM Wolf__: i’m not sure, I would have to look it up
12:48 AM fragalot: yes
12:48 AM miss0r2: good for 18-20 amps dc
12:48 AM miss0r2: (shooting from the hip here)
12:48 AM fragalot: depends on length
12:49 AM fragalot: and allowable voltage drop
12:49 AM miss0r2: no :)
12:49 AM miss0r2: well yes
12:49 AM fragalot: yes. :)
12:49 AM miss0r2: the latter one
12:49 AM Wolf__: #4 awg for all the things
12:49 AM pink_vampire: Wolf__: for 5v signals...
12:49 AM Wolf__: lol
12:49 AM * fragalot = technically correct
12:49 AM Wolf__: wtf, yeah thats kinda dumb
12:49 AM fragalot: now for signals, it IS insane.
12:49 AM * miss0r2 slaps fragalot with technically correct
12:49 AM miss0r2: wtf! hahaha
12:49 AM miss0r2: that IS insane
12:49 AM fragalot: the only question left really is.. why.
12:50 AM miss0r2: I use 18 or 19 gauge for that.
12:54 AM Wolf__: I have 14awg feeding my 1.5hp vfd and motor
12:54 AM pink_vampire: same thickness look nice
12:54 AM miss0r2: if I don't have any 20awg kicking around
12:54 AM fragalot: miss0r2: just split the 14awg & heatshrink the separated strands to make your own
12:54 AM Wolf__: 20 awg shielded for my 24-12-5v signal wires
12:54 AM miss0r2: pink_vampire: I think aesthetics has taken over your life
12:54 AM miss0r2: fragalot: theres just no way that is not a good idea :D
12:54 AM pink_vampire: LOL\
12:54 AM Wolf__: if you are doing wire size for aesthetics inside the damn cabinet, you need to rethink your machine building views...
12:54 AM * fragalot away!
12:54 AM miss0r2: aesthetics is one thing; HOW do you fit that into all of the small terminals for signaling?
12:54 AM miss0r2: see you
12:54 AM fragalot: miss0r2: best of luck, and if you need help with it, go rethink your life choices!: )
12:54 AM miss0r2: haha thanks
12:54 AM Wolf__: then again, she is using a cabinet that is the size of a closet
01:00 AM jym: 18awg is good for 10,000volts@400amps... at least for 4nS ;)
01:02 AM jym: I'm prefectly fine with wiring anything, just hate fixing someone elses fuckups, aka rats nest.
01:03 AM jym: https://i.imgur.com/CdrIsTG.jpg
01:03 AM Wolf__: I hate commercial truck wiring, factory harness are a pain in the ass
01:04 AM jym: Wolf__: Why?
01:05 AM Wolf__: because dumb stuff, like I need to tap a circuit and the tap point is next to the trans, and the controller its going to is usually on the other end of the truck
01:07 AM Wolf__: or nice handy user access wires, which they install behind something else that you cant remove easy and no room to actually reach the stuff
01:07 AM jym: Ah
01:16 AM Wolf__: commercial truck dash shit is fun… https://i.imgur.com/EUHgijo.jpg https://i.imgur.com/nqzZgL8.jpg
01:17 AM Wolf__: or all the wiring to the garbage truck control box https://i.imgur.com/WoQq46O.jpg
01:17 AM jym: That's actually pretty damn clean
01:19 AM Wolf__: same panel after I get done with it https://i.imgur.com/d03LUlt.jpg
01:21 AM jym: Wolf__: , Oh now you fucked it up ;)
01:21 AM Wolf__: yup
01:21 AM Wolf__: fdm parts and all on that lol
01:22 AM jym: Wolf__: Toss one of these in there https://odditymall.com/includes/content/fake-eject-button-for-your-car-fits-into-your-cigarette-lighter-0.jpg
01:22 AM CaptHindsight: when is a tailgate not a tailgate?
01:22 AM Wolf__: damn trash packer switches are smaller then the factory switches
01:22 AM CaptHindsight: when it's a jar
01:22 AM Loetmichel: Wolf__: is that a new truck?
01:22 AM Loetmichel: that looks waaay to clean for a used one
01:22 AM Wolf__: Loetmichel: yep
01:23 AM Wolf__: fuck if I’m going to work on a used garbage truck
01:23 AM Loetmichel: $me remembers more thinks like a solid "cake" of mud under trucks that have seen some service
01:24 AM Loetmichel: had to chisel out the generator on one... you could only see the V-belt disappear and emerge out of a large blob of hardened mud
01:24 AM Wolf__: most of the trucks I see still have shipping plastic on the inside panels =D
01:25 AM Wolf__: https://i.imgur.com/zswGLcl.jpg + https://i.imgur.com/uNfXA82.jpg = https://i.imgur.com/jqcxUnf.jpg
01:25 AM jym: Wolf__: Install one of these and wire it to model rocket engine igniter https://previews.123rf.com/images/dondesigns/dondesigns1409/dondesigns140900005/31501377-do-not-press-push-button-isolated-on-white-background.jpg
01:25 AM * Loetmichel had one two decades ago that was older than me... shoud have been an RV, sadly my marriage meant that i hadnt enough time to finish it: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=3527&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
01:26 AM CaptHindsight: Wolf__: do you offer options that the dealers do not?
01:26 AM Wolf__: yeah, less then 2 month turn around time for install lol
01:26 AM Loetmichel: i guess Wolf__ is selling/mounting special implements
01:27 AM Wolf__: just doing install
01:27 AM CaptHindsight: not a bad racket
01:27 AM CaptHindsight: new clean mods
01:27 AM CaptHindsight: beats fixing old dirty and rusty
01:28 AM Wolf__: yup, always fun cutting up brand new $80k trucks
01:28 AM Wolf__: even more so when the dealer calls and asked if you started install on something 20 mins after you cut off 4’ of frame rail lol
01:29 AM CaptHindsight: we used to say "ching-ching" when that happened
01:30 AM Wolf__: and yeah, fixing/install stuff on used trucks sucks ass
01:30 AM CaptHindsight: since that is the sound of the cash register opening and closing
01:30 AM Wolf__: everything takes 3x longer to get done
01:31 AM CaptHindsight: ever have a customer that just gets it?
01:31 AM CaptHindsight: they see how to do something simple and quick and want that
01:32 AM Wolf__: usually, no lmao
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: had one today
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: no nonsense
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: no drama
01:33 AM Wolf__: we get stuff like dealer forgets to order aux controls on the trash body and then wants a cart tipper installed making things 5x harder then they needed to be https://i.imgur.com/SbU0Ne7.jpg
01:35 AM CaptHindsight: as long as they are paying for the extra work
01:35 AM CaptHindsight: no deals for their mistakes or they just start to expect it
01:35 AM Wolf__: yeah, they pay, still a pain in the ass
01:36 AM Wolf__: then we actually need to work lol
01:36 AM CaptHindsight: yeah :)
01:37 AM Wolf__: mostly pain in the ass tying in to the main hydraulics, having to route lines all over the place and what not
01:37 AM Wolf__: usually its add the lower line set https://i.imgur.com/l6fdYwn.jpg and cut in/ weld in the tipper https://i.imgur.com/UTP39VK.jpg
01:37 AM CaptHindsight: what do you use for paint?
01:38 AM Wolf__: tractor supply rattle can lol
01:38 AM Wolf__: on actual repaint we use automotive pain
01:38 AM Wolf__: paint
01:39 AM CaptHindsight: it works
01:39 AM Wolf__: for the cut in flipper just enamel spray bomb
01:39 AM CaptHindsight: I repainted a forklift and the Rustoleum Tractor paint matched perfectly from rattle can to gallons
01:40 AM Wolf__: auto paint we get gallons + spray bomb of same mix
01:40 AM CaptHindsight: automotive urethane?
01:40 AM CaptHindsight: or the fleet enamels?
01:41 AM Wolf__: I have no idea, business partners brother is a auto body tech so we just give him the color code that they want
01:41 AM CaptHindsight: do you have to mix in a catalyst or just thin and spray?
01:42 AM Wolf__: needs hardener
01:42 AM CaptHindsight: oh so isocyanate
01:42 AM Wolf__: but usually single stage paint
01:43 AM CaptHindsight: do wear a full face mask or just a respirator over nose and mouth?
01:43 AM Wolf__: I do mostly just the welding, hydraulic hard lines and wiring
01:44 AM CaptHindsight: wise man
01:44 AM CaptHindsight: newer paints are great but they can kill you
01:45 AM Wolf__: like I usually let someone else deal with crawling under the truck and fighting the PTO in and paint work
01:45 AM CaptHindsight: same for spraying truck bed liners
01:46 AM Wolf__: yeah, I do have a full face setup for that stuff, haven’t sprayed any yet but we have one of the dual cart plural guns for bed spray/foam
01:48 AM Wolf__: at some point I want to pull the ply off the walls and foam insulate my moving box body
01:49 AM Wolf__: just need to get my surface grinder out of it first lol
01:49 AM CaptHindsight: fresh air system and cover from head to toe
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: the bad part about working with it is once you become sensitive to it you're stuck
01:52 AM CaptHindsight: asthma, and pulmonary problems
01:53 AM Wolf__: stuff I was looking at using is https://sprayez.com/product/2lb-density-insulation-foam-cartridge-material-only/
01:54 AM Wolf__: mostly because its the same gun as the bed liner stuff
01:56 AM CaptHindsight: not as bad as isocyantes
01:57 AM CaptHindsight: looks like it's maybe a Amine Catalyst
01:58 AM Wolf__: weird, they say the bedliner product is VOC free...
01:58 AM CaptHindsight: yes, 100% solids
01:59 AM CaptHindsight: meaning 100% of it is active in the polymerization
01:59 AM Wolf__: Propanol, [(1-methyl-1,2-ethanediyl)bis(oxy)]bis-, polymer with 1,1'-methylenebis [isocyanatobenzene] and oxybis[propanol] and 4,4'-METHYLENEDIPHENYL DIISOCYANATE
01:59 AM CaptHindsight: or at least no VOC solvents
01:59 AM CaptHindsight: isocyanatobenzene
02:00 AM Wolf__: https://sprayez.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/11/MSDS-Rockhard-Bedliners-Polyurea.pdf
02:00 AM CaptHindsight: that is the one that gets you
02:00 AM Wolf__: sounds… safe, ish
02:01 AM CaptHindsight: no, use a positive pressure fresh air system
02:01 AM CaptHindsight: like a space man
02:01 AM CaptHindsight: cover your eyes as well
02:02 AM Wolf__: sounds more like cover everything lol
02:02 AM CaptHindsight: the carbon filters can work for a few minutes but you will absorb it through your eyes
02:02 AM CaptHindsight: mucus and water
02:02 AM Deejay: moin
02:03 AM CaptHindsight: so eyes, nose, throat
02:03 AM CaptHindsight: until it is cured it will soak right into it
02:05 AM Wolf__: so full face (non-positive pressure) ok for short time inside a box (12’x8’w/h) or open area?
02:05 AM CaptHindsight: I would not in a closed area
02:06 AM CaptHindsight: spray booth with new fresh carbon filters for 10 minutes max
02:06 AM CaptHindsight: the scary part is you can absorb it but feel the effects until hours later
02:07 AM Wolf__: hmm, guess I need to look in to some new ppe when I do my new shop building
02:07 AM CaptHindsight: carbon filters need to be kept in the sealed bags until used
02:07 AM CaptHindsight: and the mask has to fit tight
02:09 AM Wolf__: or just find a shop to handle bed liner/foam work so I dont have to worry about it
02:09 AM CaptHindsight: i was looking at test results recently and after 10 minutes they lose much of their capacity
02:09 AM CaptHindsight: better than asthma
02:10 AM CaptHindsight: or sensitivity to just about any airborne pollutant
02:10 AM Wolf__: tho I’ll probably still end up diy bed liner on my ’69 bronco…
02:10 AM CaptHindsight: nice
02:10 AM CaptHindsight: 4 wheel burnouts
02:11 AM CaptHindsight: https://assets.hemmings.com/uimage/62481871-770-0@2X.jpg?rev=1
02:11 AM CaptHindsight: I was lloking for one to rebuild 15 years ago
02:13 AM Wolf__: yeah, something like that, but in dark metallic grey
02:14 AM Wolf__: also going to do the cage so I can still drop the hard top on it
02:15 AM CaptHindsight: https://academic.oup.com/annweh/article/50/1/1/156685
02:18 AM Wolf__: hmm, wonder if plasma cutting of painted surfaces might be bad for that as well...
02:19 AM Wolf__: yup “Moreover, a variety of thermal degradation products (mono isocyanates and amino isocyanates) can be formed when cured PU products are heated”
02:51 AM * Loetmichel should clean up his desk... its getting harder to type something in irc if you have to reach over the device under test ;) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17304&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
03:47 AM miss0r2: meh. one wrong key press, and now I have to wait another 10 minuts for the g-code to transfer to the mill :]
03:51 AM miss0r2: finding out the mill is not set in recieve mode halfway through the transfer. ! FAK
03:51 AM miss0r2: have to wait for it to complete & then start over again ...
03:52 AM sensille: sounds like a system from the 80s
03:52 AM miss0r2: '85 indeed
03:52 AM miss0r2: My trusty old maho 500c :)
03:58 AM miss0r2: bah.. it has done this before. It decided to get stuck. The only solution is to reboot the machine and loose all your refrence points, to get it to recieve data again. that is just annoying
04:02 AM miss0r2: because, apparently, theres a signed bit somewhere telling it that the computer is there and sending, but it is not getting anything. So you cannot start a new serial session with it. and I have never been able to figure out how to reset this proberly.
04:08 AM Loetmichel: miss0r2: convert it to linuxcnc :-)
04:08 AM miss0r2: hehe. I am actualy in the process, you know this :D
04:08 AM miss0r2: The controller is complete - I just havent gotten around to programming it
04:08 AM miss0r2: anyway. now the transfer is complete - time to break something
04:09 AM Loetmichel: hopefully toos and not ballscrews or servo drives :-)
04:09 AM Loetmichel: +l
04:11 AM miss0r2: linear glass scales, servo drives & ballscrews... :)
04:11 AM miss0r2: VFD + 18 speed gearbox
04:11 AM miss0r2: I haven't gathered strength to do it yet :D
04:16 AM miss0r2: its sounding good at the moment. 6mm bullnose endmill (r0.5mm) running at 800mm/min 10mm doc 1.5mm stepover at 4000rpm
04:21 AM Loetmichel: miss0r2: i meant to break tools because it cheaper thn breaking vises or machine parts
04:40 AM miss0r2: :] indeed
04:44 AM jthornton: morning
04:45 AM XXCoder: yo
04:50 AM Deejay: hey
04:54 AM Loetmichel: miss0r2: i mamaged to friction weld a 1/8" carbide shaft to a cast iron vise once
04:55 AM Loetmichel: thanks to the fact that the steppers on my mill have not enough power to break the tool
04:55 AM Loetmichel: at 24krpm you cant press the e-stop fast enough before the shaft is white hot when running sideways into the vise
04:56 AM XXCoder: ouch
04:56 AM Loetmichel: and when you finally hit the estop it welds in place ;)
04:57 AM pink_vampire: i just made the best stubby screw driver for tight places in the panel
05:02 AM miss0r2: damn
05:03 AM XXCoder: no problem of that at work, easily break tool lol
05:06 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: 1A per phase steppers... http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=3034&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:06 AM Loetmichel: they dont break a carbide tool :-)
05:07 AM XXCoder: ya not much oomph to
05:13 AM Loetmichel: they dont even break bones
05:13 AM Loetmichel: wich is a nice "safety feature" once
05:14 AM Loetmichel: got stuck a few times in my big gantry router between gantry and x sled... only leads to black finger nails though, not to smashed digits
05:15 AM Loetmichel: even with the 3A steppers that machine had: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4935&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:20 AM selroc: hi
05:23 AM XXCoder: hi
05:23 AM XXCoder: bah
05:44 AM pink_vampire: Loetmichel: i want a machine for cutting sheets
05:45 AM Loetmichel: pink_vampire: what size sheets?
05:45 AM pink_vampire: 2X2 oe 2X3 feet
05:48 AM Loetmichel: https://www.sorotec.de/shop/Portal-Mill-Basic-Line-1007-DIY.html <- something like that
05:49 AM pink_vampire: no no no no
05:49 AM pink_vampire: this is hugeeee
05:49 AM pink_vampire: i want something like the maslow
05:50 AM Loetmichel: huge`?
05:50 AM Loetmichel: its barely bigger than the 2*3 feet you specified
05:51 AM pink_vampire: floor space
05:55 AM Loetmichel: bolt it to the wall
05:55 AM Loetmichel: slightly inclined
05:55 AM XXCoder: ya theres 4'x8' wall cnc router
05:55 AM XXCoder: if you have a large wall you can have huge roputer heh
05:55 AM Loetmichel: the machine doesent care about orientation
05:56 AM XXCoder: mostly yeah. just need to resist changing positon by gravityu
05:57 AM Loetmichel: maslow isnt really good for metal
05:57 AM Loetmichel: or for hard woods
05:57 AM Loetmichel: it relys on gravity to move the head
05:58 AM Loetmichel: not the best idea if you have large milling forces
05:58 AM pink_vampire: it is fine with me
05:58 AM pink_vampire: 60K rpm dont need much down force
06:26 AM Loetmichel: *MUHAHAHA* CFO just came in asking why we need our external designer. $me starting Elite dangerous (space game)... jumping into an Anaconda: "Because thats how I design PC enclosures" *switching to Imperial clipper* "And thats how the Designer does it..." ... she understood ;)
06:33 AM XXCoder: oh yeah forgot
06:33 AM XXCoder: today shop reached 7% humidity lol
06:34 AM XXCoder: amazing low
06:34 AM pink_vampire: super low
06:36 AM XXCoder: ya my eyes felt dry lol
06:36 AM XXCoder: it rose tpo 18% by end of shift
06:37 AM XXCoder: funny "review" of langoliers movie
06:37 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TSHRC8uhF3Y
06:43 AM x2s: Hrm. New mainboard, still a max jitter of 100k µs. I wonder why.
06:44 AM XXCoder: try turn off all power management stuff
06:44 AM x2s: ah, setting cpu speed to max and stuff
06:54 AM x2s: 73k µs. Looks already better. But I have to let it run for a while, I guess
06:54 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:55 AM XXCoder: inbuilt gpu or not?
07:11 AM XXCoder: pink_vampire: its so dry that even at 27f we didnt get much frost on cars lol
07:13 AM x2s: 53k µs. Looks already better. But I have to let it run for a while, I guess
07:13 AM x2s: XXCoder: dedicated gpu
07:13 AM XXCoder: not bad
07:13 AM XXCoder: i can only suggest basics im sure there is more you can do to improve latency.
07:14 AM sensille: 100k us? 0.1s?
07:14 AM x2s: Scheduler is set to performance for all cores. That made the difference
07:14 AM x2s: ns...
07:14 AM x2s: sorry :)
07:37 AM x2s: What I forgot to mention: 4.19.0-2-rt-amd64 #1 SMP PREEMPT RT Debian Buster
07:38 AM jthornton: XXCoder: https://jethornton.github.io/howdy/
07:38 AM XXCoder: looks like start of new page
07:39 AM jthornton: did you open the Howdy page?
07:41 AM XXCoder: yeah seemed mostly empty
07:41 AM XXCoder: oh lol
07:46 AM jthornton: yea that was a test to try and sort out how to get travis ci to build my github sphinx docs for me
07:55 AM PL7icnc: heavy rain here in Germany all day long
07:56 AM PL7icnc: i did spam the Forum been Told am i
07:56 AM XXCoder: jt nice lets see if it works
07:59 AM XXCoder: Pl hey
07:59 AM XXCoder: well off to bed before im dead heh
08:06 AM flyback: bmcc
09:13 AM JT-Shop: I love emails that say ...send them ASAP... well that will cost you an extra day for sure
09:13 AM methods_: lol
09:14 AM methods_: expedite fee
11:56 AM fragalot: 'sup
12:48 PM jym: Is lcnc still using RTOS or another RT core?
12:53 PM pcw_mesa: RTAI or Preempt-RT (maybe Xenomai, not sure)
12:53 PM jym: Ah, RTAI, ok, I couldn't remember.
12:56 PM jym: pcw_mesa: I found a RTOS for a uC, might be interesting
12:57 PM jym is now known as Jymmm
12:58 PM pcw_mesa: FreeRTOS has been around for a while
01:00 PM Jymmm: Ah, this looks like it is based on FreeRTOS at least in part.
01:12 PM roycroft: ha
01:13 PM roycroft: so yesterday i was negotiating with an ebay seller on a motor
01:13 PM roycroft: he was taking offers, but was not willing to play very much on price
01:13 PM roycroft: i ended up buying a different motor, but forgot to take the first one off my watch list
01:13 PM roycroft: i just got an email that indicated that the motor sold for less than i had offered
01:14 PM roycroft: so i guess the seller was willing to play, but not with me
01:14 PM roycroft: oh well, the one i got cost me less than my lowest offer on the first one
01:32 PM skunkworks: andypugh: put the 3rd stmbl amp together.. Finally. It is so satifying..
01:33 PM andypugh: Doing better than me. :-) I have one assembled and 5 to do...
01:34 PM skunkworks: I have one communicating smart serial.. Getting there. Going to steel one of the spindle configs to play with.
01:36 PM skunkworks: The amp is still pretty black boxy to me still
01:37 PM andypugh: Me too, to an extent. That’s partly why I started to write the docs...
01:37 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:40 PM andypugh: If you make any notes on the config stage then perhaps we could work on that part of the docs.
01:40 PM skunkworks: sure - I have been getting more familliar...
01:46 PM skunkworks: andypugh: what is the difference between the a and a2?
01:46 PM skunkworks: (iram)
01:46 PM andypugh: A2 has the pins bent correctly for STMBL, and A doesn’t
01:48 PM skunkworks: ah - I see now. The actual picture on mousers site shows the a2 - so I was getting excited..
01:49 PM skunkworks: the pdf shows the actual pin setup. (make for vertial mount..)
01:58 PM skunkworks: actually put the case on this one...
02:12 PM rmu: anybody know of a linuxcnc meetup in germany this year?
02:31 PM fragalot: gah
02:31 PM fragalot: i feaking hate how fusion360 updates automatically & introduces bugs
02:32 PM fragalot: I can't use the extrude command to cut anymore
02:59 PM andypugh: rmu: I don’t know of anything planned yet. But I wouldn’t be surprised if there was a meetup in Stutthart again.
02:59 PM andypugh: fragalot: I just extrude-cut 10 minutes ago.
03:01 PM fragalot: andypugh: something went sideways on my one
03:01 PM fragalot: i'm trying to cut a projection in an assembly and it just is not having it
03:01 PM andypugh: Maybe you need to select the body-to-be cut in the dropdown?
03:02 PM andypugh: That said, it annoyed me today. I made a body, then promoted it to a component. Then couldn’t edit an extrude that I did prior to the conversion.
03:02 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bridgeport-Interact-1-CNC-Milling-Machine-Control-Cabinet/283403129631?
03:02 PM fragalot: the dropdown is not there
03:02 PM fragalot: there were quite a few menus today where the bottom dynamic half just does not load
03:02 PM gloops: fragalot on/off
03:02 PM fragalot: gloops: Thank you capt'n obvious :)
03:03 PM andypugh: I am on a Mac. Perhaps they haven’t got round to breaking that version yet?
03:03 PM fragalot: maybe
03:04 PM fragalot: but forced updates and remote policy changes being pushed without consent are just getting so frustrating
03:04 PM fragalot: I feel that a good 25% of my job at work is just trying to get shit that used to work to work again
03:04 PM fragalot: rather than being productive
03:07 PM XXCoder: thats one of reasons I moved on from windows
03:07 PM XXCoder: unfortunately not a choice at work
03:09 PM fragalot: it's not JUST windows, although that is a major one
03:09 PM XXCoder: yeah
03:09 PM fragalot: and yes - unfortionately not an option at work
03:12 PM XXCoder: yeah
03:43 PM skunkworks: I run fusion on linux.. (well - in a windows 10vm on linux..)
03:43 PM skunkworks: But I don't use it enough yet to be any good at it.
03:44 PM * skunkworks waits patiently for Wintergatan wednesday...
04:18 PM andypugh: I am trying to persuade Wintergatan to let me build him a linuxCNC robot
04:19 PM andypugh: https://www.reddit.com/r/MarbleMachineX/comments/aqyi4b/how_about_a_magnetplacing_robot/
04:21 PM andypugh: Random thought: The world has changed. I needed a 24V enable signal for this Megatorque servo. So I chopped the end off of a USB cable, soldered on a DC-DC coverter (2A, 5-24V, £2 from eBay) and used that, plugged in to my Mac.
04:21 PM andypugh: If such things had existed when the drive was manufactured then I rather suspect that a 24V supply would have been built-in...
04:23 PM Deejay: gn8
04:24 PM Tom_L: hope the mac doesn't de'rate it like they try to do on their battery life
04:25 PM whitequark: that's a perfectly reasonable engineering decision of the ios team. batteries age, that's a fact of reality
04:25 PM whitequark: the other possible "solution", which you can see all the android phones pick, is to discharge to 25% and then hard turn off.
04:25 PM Tom_L: aparently not as quickly as they'd like them to though
04:26 PM whitequark: clamping maximum current on an aging battery would probably make it age slower, not faster
04:47 PM SpeedEvil: Also - thinkpads had/have(?) the option to only charge to x%.
04:47 PM SpeedEvil: Charging to 80% greatly improves the shelf life
04:47 PM SpeedEvil: (and after a relatively little while, the total available capaicty once the comparison battery ages past 80%)
04:51 PM R2E4: evening, afternoon, morning
04:52 PM R2E4: Anyone having trouble with external button jogging in master?
04:52 PM R2E4: setting halui.joint.jog-speed is not working and I cant figure it out
04:53 PM R2E4: in 2.5 it works, I know it has changed but I cant get it to work.
04:53 PM R2E4: it only jogs at 20 ipm.
05:21 PM jthornton: hmm I don't think I've tried halui.joint.jog-speed ... looking
05:25 PM jthornton: halui.joint.jog−speed float in
05:25 PM jthornton: pin for setting jog speed for plus/minus jogging.
05:25 PM jthornton: are you using halui.joint.n.plus and minus to jog?
09:39 PM _unreal_: hello
09:39 PM TurBoss: Hi
09:49 PM _unreal_: damn someone responded :)
09:49 PM _unreal_: killed my streak man ;)
09:53 PM _unreal_: ?
09:54 PM TurBoss: ¿
09:54 PM TurBoss: :P
09:54 PM TurBoss: nah just working on bump blendercam to blender 2.80