#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 25 2019
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:21 AM Jymmm: XXCoder: Which part, the planer?
12:25 AM XXCoder: and grinding
12:25 AM XXCoder: so much microdust
12:37 AM Contract_Pilot: Sup.
12:38 AM Contract_Pilot: Be intresting to see the development and what low cost board is being used. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=dhFo9W1AG2g
12:40 AM CaptHindsight: inputs that trigger M-codes?
12:46 AM CaptHindsight: something similar https://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-Eight-Channel-Relay-Automation/dp/B0093Y89DE/ref=pd_lpo_sbs_328_t_0?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=ZP1CRSFNFW8Q20T9B31Z
12:46 AM CaptHindsight: https://numato.com/product/4-channel-usb-relay-module
12:49 AM CaptHindsight: swap water for hydroelectric acid, play over lap for much sucess
12:49 AM XXCoder: lol
01:15 AM Wolf__: syyl_: that alibi cad software, looks like the workflow is similar to solid works?
01:15 AM Wolf__: s/alibi/alibre
01:35 AM syyl_: yes Wolf__
01:35 AM syyl_: a lot like a proper, classic cad ;)
01:35 AM syyl_: to me it feels a lot like proengineer
01:36 AM Wolf__: as much as I want to I cant seem to get F360 workflow to work in my head lol
01:38 AM Wolf__: guess I have been using solid works too long, which version of Alibre are you playing with?
01:38 AM syyl_: the most recent expert version
01:39 AM Wolf__: spendy but not solid works spendy lol
01:39 AM syyl_: just buying solid works would be the simplest way to go
01:40 AM syyl_: but
01:40 AM syyl_: €€€€€
01:40 AM Wolf__: yup
01:41 AM Wolf__: expert is few grand less then basic SW I think
01:42 AM syyl_: i think a basic SW license is around 5k
01:46 AM Wolf__: one thing I dont see anywhere is cam output =/
01:47 AM syyl_: no its just a cad package
01:47 AM Wolf__: https://www.alibre.com/ecosystem-cam/
01:47 AM Wolf__: I spoke too soon
01:47 AM syyl_: yes, but thats expensive
01:48 AM syyl_: stinkn expensive :D
01:48 AM syyl_: condacam integrates also into alibre
01:48 AM syyl_: and is affordable
01:50 AM Wolf__: hmm that seems to be missing one thing, english =D
01:55 AM Wolf__: at least right now for paying shop work oddly I can get away with drawing up parts in inkscape because everything is plasma table work
01:56 AM syyl_: if that works out, nothign wrong with it :)
01:56 AM syyl_: i liked qcad and librecad for 2d work
01:57 AM Wolf__: https://mecsoft.com/shop/product-category/alibre-design-products/ doesnt look too bad for a pricing standpoint
01:58 AM syyl_: alibre atom3d is very interesting
01:58 AM syyl_: its powerfull and has almost everything i need
02:00 AM Wolf__: yeah, I might look at it myself, atom3d + the xpress cam giving 2.5D milling doesnt sounds like a bad combo for low cost
02:07 AM Deejay: moin
02:26 AM Contract_Pilot: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07DGPT293
02:28 AM Contract_Pilot: CaptHindsight, Ebay lot cheaper..
02:28 AM Contract_Pilot: But takes weeks..
02:29 AM XXCoder: ie from china which might be discard from failing qa test
02:29 AM Contract_Pilot: Yea, but the person has not released code so?? would be a DIY thing.
02:31 AM Wolf__: hey Contract_Pilot, forgot to tell ya, finally single point threaded something on the lathe, drive screw worked perfect
02:31 AM XXCoder: way to go Wolf__
02:32 AM Contract_Pilot: M shop has 14 chicks in it right now had 15 but one died!! http://73.37.100.238/
02:32 AM Contract_Pilot: Wolf cool..
02:32 AM Contract_Pilot: the one i sent ya?
02:32 AM Wolf__: yup
02:33 AM XXCoder: Contract_Pilot: interesting video
02:33 AM Contract_Pilot: Sweet glas it worked out for ya.
02:33 AM XXCoder: something jt'd do if he had better internet access
02:33 AM XXCoder: wolf what was you making>?
02:34 AM Wolf__: nothing special yet, test cut thread for new arbor for tapmatic
02:34 AM Contract_Pilot: Shop Stalker is like Chicken Nuggets. http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2019/02/Kitty-TV-3-1024x768.jpg
02:36 AM Contract_Pilot: I been busy with life so not been on.
02:36 AM Contract_Pilot: rarley set foot in the shop in 2018
02:37 AM Wolf__: https://i.imgur.com/Ip4MdWj.jpg did get a few other upgrades done on the lathe as well
02:37 AM Wolf__: new motor, VFD
02:37 AM Wolf__: I was busy as hell in 2018, so far have had the last 2 months off tho
02:38 AM Contract_Pilot: But dis inherit 3 ducks http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-admin/upload.php?item=3483
02:38 AM Contract_Pilot: They are happy and stared producing 2-3 eggs a day..
02:40 AM Contract_Pilot: Wolf Cool deal i changed VFd's from Hitachi wj200 to a Emmerson on the lathe... Like it much better so much more quiet.
02:40 AM Wolf__: lol your shop needs/wants list looks like mine
02:40 AM Contract_Pilot: LOL
02:40 AM Wolf__: I went with cheap china vfd, not the best but works
02:41 AM Wolf__: I need tts holders badly
02:41 AM Wolf__: and want a better power drawbar setup on my mill
02:42 AM Contract_Pilot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OCQQro2o9b0 still some work to do.,
02:43 AM Wolf__: did find these vs a Haimer https://3dtesterusa.com/shop?olsPage=t%2F3d-tasters
02:44 AM Contract_Pilot: About the same price though.
02:44 AM Wolf__: one of them is specific for setting up lathe tooling
02:46 AM Wolf__: top of my list is fix my house then attempt to get permit for new shop building on my property
02:46 AM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/20181027_095110-1024x768.jpg
02:47 AM Contract_Pilot: I got that welder while back smoking deal.
02:48 AM Wolf__: nice, except I dont like lincoln welders lol
02:48 AM Wolf__: we have had nothing but trouble with the one we have at the shop
02:52 AM Wolf__: on the other hand, my near 15yr old miller 210 wont stop (actually surprised that I haven’t killed it yet)
02:55 AM Contract_Pilot: I have miller also
02:55 AM Wolf__: I still need to fix my damn miller 200dx
02:56 AM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/20181027_113403-1024x768.jpg
02:56 AM Contract_Pilot: Older Dynasty get on ti nutrulize the acid from them leakey caps asa.
02:57 AM Contract_Pilot: My 3756-Xtream Plasma http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/10/20181025_011736-1024x768.jpg
02:58 AM Wolf__: https://i.imgur.com/CzYKJ9w.jpg I haven’t noticed any leaky caps
02:58 AM Wolf__: did you get that thing working again?
03:08 AM Contract_Pilot: Yep.
03:08 AM Contract_Pilot: Got it working back about Aug.
03:09 AM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/?p=3131
03:12 AM Wolf__: nice, little plasma box
03:13 AM Wolf__: my old powermax is still working, had to get a new torch tho https://i.imgur.com/e8BYoEs.jpg picked up the mini because we had deadlines to keep
03:18 AM XXCoder: wb jt-m[m]
03:18 AM XXCoder: jthornton:
03:19 AM syyl_: those are mady by tschorn, Wolf__
03:20 AM syyl_: https://www.tschorn-gmbh.de/en/product-groups/3D-Tester.html
03:21 AM XXCoder: lol this old tony.. shows block of steel and says "machine stem cells"
03:29 AM Wolf__: syyl_: is that good or bad =D
03:32 AM Contract_Pilot: Yea, i got the miller for less than a banjamin.
03:33 AM Contract_Pilot: Whats p with your 200DX?
03:34 AM Wolf__: low output issue, service manual is pointing to bad hall sensor or something
03:34 AM Contract_Pilot: Hummm
04:02 AM jthornton: morning
04:42 AM jthornton: finally got windblows 7 to print had to do an update
04:45 AM XXCoder: :)
04:59 AM gloops: hmm, slightly dubious about this chinese panel raising set on 1/4 shanks!
05:02 AM gloops: 65mm diamter cutter, quite heavy, shank looks pretty unsubstantial for this at 12000 rpm
05:03 AM Rab: 65mm on 1/4" shank? Haha wow
05:05 AM gloops: i expected some little lightweight thing, its a full blown panel raising set, think ill be wearing gum shield when i test these lol
05:07 AM jthornton: now if I can get windblows xp to work...
05:09 AM jthornton: wow a 2 1/2" cutter on 1/4" shank... that's a bit insane
05:10 AM gloops: ill try it with a fence, now way would i let that rip in with a full cut, just take it in a few mm at a time
05:11 AM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3x-1-4-Round-Rail-Stile-Cove-Raised-Panel-Ogee-Cutter-Router-Bits-Tool-Set/283330622762?
05:14 AM jthornton: yea that is bit raised panel bit for 1/4"
05:14 AM jthornton: cheap enough though
05:15 AM gloops: its to try in cnc router, its only got er11 collet though so cant use half inch shank
05:15 AM gloops: ill try it manually first
05:16 AM jthornton: yea er11 is pretty small I have some er11 holders for my vmc
05:20 AM gloops: might be ok for now, if its cnc i can make it take light passes, im going to get a bigger spindle at some point anyway
05:20 AM jthornton: you ever get a photo of your machine?
05:20 AM gloops: i put some on a while back, had a few vids - not much of the whole machine
05:21 AM gloops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xf5p-7VZmcs
05:21 AM gloops: thats when i was building it
05:23 AM gloops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J82ggHEGOt4 thats the vertical surface
05:25 AM jthornton: cool
05:26 AM gloops: its still managing to work after year so i must have got something right lol
05:28 AM Tom_itx: hello
05:28 AM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
05:28 AM gloops: morning
05:34 AM Tom_L: i think that's the first i've seen your mill move
05:34 AM Tom_L: looks like it's doing ok
05:36 AM jthornton: morning
05:38 AM gloops: its a bit underpowered and undergunned, but it does move in a fairly straight line lol
05:43 AM jthornton: do you use a vacuum to hold the part?
05:52 AM gloops: no not got any vacuum, i usually just screw things down to the spoilboard, or screw them to a back board and screw that down
06:49 AM XXCoder: jthornton: seems weather is finally stabilizing
06:49 AM XXCoder: it went south so maybe little bit of snow but wont be much lol
07:00 AM jthornton: I was hoping we might dry out a bit but more rain on the way later this week
07:01 AM XXCoder: its mostly sunny here for a week
07:01 AM XXCoder: man this year is full of weather abormalities
07:01 AM XXCoder: normally i forget what dry road looks like
08:07 AM PL7icnc: Is the Mesa Guy around here ? i guess it is pcw
08:07 AM PL7icnc: as he answers most on the Forum
08:08 AM PL7icnc: pcw_home, Are You Sir Online
10:07 AM CaptHindsight: some could clue PL7icnc in to how IRC works
10:30 AM skunkworks: he gave a good 10 minutes... What more do you want?
10:33 AM * Jymmm wants a 1/4 male to 3/4 male brass fitting
10:39 AM jdh: make one!
11:06 AM Jymmm: jdh: Right after I get a lathe,
11:20 AM jdh: threadmill
11:21 AM jdh: might be easier to assemble some parta though
11:22 AM Jymmm: That's what I'm doing, but not my choice... Dont' need a 20 inch long "adapter"
11:24 AM jdh: I could do it with tube/pipe fittings.
11:31 AM Jymmm: jdh: I did it, just not happy about it... https://i.imgur.com/aEszLby.jpg
11:32 AM jdh: not bad
11:32 AM Jymmm: Spent like $20 in couples alone, just because I couldn't locate the right fittings
01:29 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfK5cGFxDOk
01:34 PM miss0r: fragalot: Three hours into a part - set the wrong depth of a cut. scrap!
01:35 PM methods_: ouch
01:35 PM fragalot: miss0r: >.<
01:36 PM miss0r: worst part is; it was three hours of manual machining :]
01:36 PM fragalot: at least it's only the part?
01:36 PM methods_: you can't weld it up and save it?
01:36 PM CaptHindsight: >12k views in the first few hours, where was this posted?
01:36 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: patreon first, probably
01:36 PM methods_: that's a lot of time to just toss out
01:37 PM miss0r: methods_: Nah.. not even if I wanted to. Its 42CrMo4
01:37 PM fragalot: miss0r: JB weld.
01:37 PM miss0r: uploading picture
01:37 PM * miss0r slaps fragalot with a JB weld molded hand
01:37 PM * fragalot dies
01:38 PM miss0r: https://imgur.com/a/Uv9aQeh
01:39 PM miss0r: I managed to fsck up the depth of those splines
01:39 PM miss0r: even though I did two test pieces first, which turned out perfect :D
01:39 PM fragalot: miss0r: is it worth trying to sleeve them?
01:40 PM fragalot: guessing it isn't, as that spline looks like it took the longest
01:40 PM miss0r: nah. this is a high stress axle - I don't want to be taking any chances
01:40 PM fragalot: if it's a high stress axle, why do you have those sharp edges at the end of the taper eh?
01:40 PM miss0r: I have a friend that works a cnc lathe. He will cut 10 axles for me for a small price.
01:40 PM miss0r: because this was just a test :D
01:41 PM miss0r: I'm hoping the transition when done of the cnc lathe will be quite smooth
01:41 PM fragalot: only as smooth as you ask it to be
01:41 PM miss0r: I ask alot :D
01:41 PM fragalot: and you're not joking with the high torque part, that old shaft looks like it twisted already
01:42 PM gloops: spin it up and get half round file on bottom of taper
01:42 PM miss0r: fragalot: It did.
01:42 PM miss0r: gloops: Lots of options :)
01:42 PM miss0r: I'm going with the cnc one
01:43 PM fragalot: what is this for that you need 10pcs?
01:43 PM miss0r: Part of the land rover steering :)
01:43 PM miss0r: and I am just doing a small batch at first - to sell at a low price to the community
01:44 PM miss0r: The aftermarket parts are made of chinesium - you don't want chinesium being the only thing connecting your steering wheel to the tires
01:44 PM CaptHindsight: I knew it was just for wood https://youtu.be/DSFefDyjJXw?t=12
01:44 PM fragalot: miss0r: I see :D
01:45 PM miss0r: fragalot: Actualy: I can compete with the price of the aftermarket unit.
01:46 PM miss0r: but I don't make it by pressing together old cans in a mold..
01:46 PM fragalot: you can, but can your cnc friend? :D
01:47 PM gloops: free wheeling hubs used to be a thing with old landies, surely everyone must have fitted those by now though
01:47 PM miss0r: yeah. we agreed on a quite nice price.
01:47 PM miss0r: gloops: and alot have removed them again
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: we need a Dunning Kruger IRC channel to test out ideas for Kickstarter
01:47 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: a who?
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dunning%E2%80%93Kruger_effect
01:48 PM fragalot: I see
01:48 PM miss0r: if you do alot of read driving, you safe fuel - sure. but the front dif/ball joints ect. hardly ever gets to rotate, so once you have to use it, it have issues with lubrication & the axle seals start to leak
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: https://cdn-images-1.medium.com/max/1200/1*t2sx5h0UF-kljgC2sj2msw.jpeg
01:52 PM miss0r: that pocket NC is quite cool, I must admit.
01:52 PM miss0r: if you only do light duty cutting/soft materials
01:52 PM miss0r: but it opens alot of possibilities
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: how about CAM?
01:52 PM CaptHindsight: what do they recommend?
01:53 PM gregcnc: johnnyq90 has a big following on yt
01:53 PM gregcnc: fusion
01:53 PM miss0r: CaptHindsight: I don't know
01:54 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.pocketnc.com/pocket-nc-v2/google-chromebook
01:54 PM gregcnc: sounds like a trip to the dentist
01:55 PM CaptHindsight: cuts dental models
01:55 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.datron.com/cnc-machine-products/d5.php
01:55 PM gregcnc: dang there is now a 8500USD version
01:56 PM gregcnc: including a year of F360 ultimate
01:56 PM CaptHindsight: $50k
01:58 PM fragalot: gregcnc: is that the free year they include?
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.pocketnc.com/pocket-nc-v2/sample-parts
01:59 PM CaptHindsight: having shipped over 700 units, Pocket NC is continuing to develop new products
02:00 PM miss0r: I wonder how accurate you can expect that thing to be
02:00 PM CaptHindsight: miss0r: don't ruin the mood by getting all technical :)
02:00 PM fragalot: about as accurate as your average chinesium stepper motor runout is?
02:00 PM fragalot: because it looks like that is their spindle
02:01 PM fragalot: Repeatability: +/-0.002 in at 0% load
02:01 PM miss0r: CaptHindsight: Hehe, sorry about that
02:01 PM fragalot: so, 51µm repeatability
02:01 PM miss0r: fragalot: Repeatability is eazy
02:01 PM miss0r: I want positioning accuracy
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: repeated runout
02:02 PM CaptHindsight: i think the buyers use it for apps that don't require precision
02:02 PM fragalot: miss0r: well it homes to 0.00005in, has 0.00005 backlash, deflects 0.001in, and repeats to 0.002
02:02 PM CaptHindsight: or wouldn't know it if it hit them in the head
02:02 PM miss0r: so.. they don't want to say
02:02 PM CaptHindsight: they just have $10k to spare for a mill
02:03 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: jewelers doing lost wax stuff would be fine with this thing
02:03 PM fragalot: it's compact, low power, and "good enough"
02:03 PM miss0r: CaptHindsight: For that price I can get a quite nice small sized 5-axis machine on the used marked. (if we accept the pocket NC is micro size)
02:03 PM miss0r: Pocket NC "If you don't mind finishing the surface with a file"
02:04 PM fragalot: "for tumbled parts only"
02:04 PM fragalot: :D
02:04 PM CaptHindsight: businesses favor new over used for tax and lease purposes
02:04 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: plus it's plug'n'pray
02:04 PM miss0r: unless its my buisness. I just looooove old stuff :-/
02:04 PM * miss0r is poor :D
02:05 PM fragalot: you're poor because you're not doing the tax & lease stuff :P
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: 700 x $8k = 5.6 millions
02:05 PM fragalot: invest money you don't have, it's the way forward
02:05 PM miss0r: fragalot: Indeed it is :D
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: for a 10 person business
02:05 PM miss0r: But I've always liked the buisness model, where I don't ow anyone anything
02:06 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: so, basically, they run break-even?
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: they try
02:06 PM miss0r: fragalot: Not every one gets your salary..
02:06 PM miss0r: :D
02:06 PM fragalot: miss0r: :3
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: https://sim.pocketnc.com/
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: simulate some steel being cut
02:07 PM miss0r: anywho.. I don't feel like doing more machine stuff tonight - I will go kill some virtual nazis instead :D see you around
02:07 PM miss0r: spray'n'pray
02:07 PM fragalot: miss0r: assuming you sell those machines, how many do you think you need to sell to pay 10 people decent wages from the sales margin ?
02:07 PM miss0r: more than 700, that is for sure
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: 5-axis cnc airbrush that size
02:08 PM miss0r: anyway, I am out. see you around
02:08 PM fragalot: cya
02:08 PM fragalot: that online simulator is kinda neat
02:09 PM CaptHindsight: the travels are pretty short on that...
02:09 PM fragalot: shame you can't edit the code online
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: i can see making that with a much better spindle
02:10 PM gregcnc: initially they were going to use an NSK
02:11 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: I do wonder how much better that exact machine would be if they used a better spindle
02:11 PM CaptHindsight: is there a Chinese version?
02:12 PM Deejay is now known as Guest58535
02:12 PM CaptHindsight: 700 is just less than 2 per day
02:12 PM fragalot: that's probably over 2 years
02:12 PM gregcnc: not yet?
02:13 PM CaptHindsight: ah yeah 1 a day
02:13 PM gloops: do not underestimate chinas ability to produce quality items at low cost
02:13 PM gloops: look at these i got today https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/3x-1-4-Round-Rail-Stile-Cove-Raised-Panel-Ogee-Cutter-Router-Bits-Tool-Set/283330622762?
02:13 PM fragalot: gloops: they can if they care
02:13 PM CaptHindsight: do not underestimate what others in this room are aware of
02:13 PM Deejay: grumbfx, damn nickserv
02:13 PM gloops: 65mm panel raiser on 1/4 inch shanke - full panel set for £20!
02:14 PM fragalot: gloops: you overpaid.
02:14 PM gloops: lol
02:14 PM fragalot: ;)
02:14 PM gloops: i took the panel raiser up to 3000k earlier ..then hit stop
02:14 PM gloops: err 3000rpm
02:15 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.alibaba.com/showroom/5-axis-dental-milling-machine.html
02:17 PM CaptHindsight: must be for whale teeth https://www.alibaba.com/product-detail/Dental-5-Axis-Milling-Machine-dental_60834611633.html?spm=a2700.7724857.normalList.101.30925577n4bTi2
02:17 PM fragalot: lmao
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: Apple found some Chinese 5-axis unit to make ipod cases
02:20 PM CaptHindsight: think they had 10's of thousands of them
02:20 PM gregcnc: really?
02:20 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, they machined those cases
02:21 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: have you pre-ordered the samsung fold yet?
02:21 PM fragalot: :P
02:21 PM gregcnc: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1260359869/swissmak-the-mill-turn-center-for-your-machine-sho/updates
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: no, I'm waiting for the window shade version 27"
02:22 PM fragalot: also, picking up super strong magnets feels weird if you have metal shavings stuck in your fingers
02:23 PM gregcnc: that was to ship oct
02:23 PM fragalot: put another way: turns out i have some small metal shavings stuck in my thumb :P
02:24 PM fragalot: gregcnc: yea but they didn't really get much from their kickstarter
02:24 PM gregcnc: not a mountain of money
02:26 PM fragalot: at least the updates show actual parts being made
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/olo3d/olo-the-first-ever-smartphone-3d-printer
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: shipped ~5 units and had a demo at some NYC 3d print show
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: they can't actually ship since the resin costs too much
02:30 PM fragalot: neat idea, poor pricing
02:31 PM gregcnc: so they just wait until resin becomes affordable?
02:31 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.reddit.com/r/shittykickstarters/comments/98oitw/ono_3d_printer_update_20180807_after_a_2year/
02:31 PM CaptHindsight: seems like a scam from day 1
02:31 PM CaptHindsight: we sent them resin 2 years ago
02:31 PM fragalot: you can tell that by the amount of logos they had on the kickstarter page
02:32 PM CaptHindsight: they called us back 2 weeks ago not remembering
02:33 PM gregcnc: lol all new people or?
02:33 PM CaptHindsight: the other partner
02:33 PM CaptHindsight: 2 main guys
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: similar with that salt water SLA printer
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: one partner built a house with the funds
02:35 PM gregcnc: nice
02:35 PM CaptHindsight: https://3dprint.com/133842/peachy-printer-embezzlement/
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: http://kickscammed.com/ hasa big list
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: $4700 for that Swissmak
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KgzQ_tMVOhI Milling the X boxways for a SwissMak
02:49 PM gregcnc: i couldn't understand how they sold those with virtually no information about the control
02:49 PM gregcnc: he got a lot of flak on PM for that design
02:49 PM CaptHindsight: if you are so new to CNC you don't even think of it
02:50 PM gregcnc: he designed that thing for a college thesis
02:51 PM CaptHindsight: 6061 frame
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: he should use concrete
02:54 PM gregcnc: 1 or 2 persons lifting it was a design criteria
02:54 PM gregcnc: millions of people will now have access to multi axis cnc machine
02:55 PM CaptHindsight: for soft materials
02:55 PM CaptHindsight: is there that much a demand for that?
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: 5-axis cnc for plastics
02:57 PM gregcnc: A lot of people get caught up in small machines
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: vs a cnc glue gun
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: which is more practical?
02:58 PM gregcnc: this guy just took it to the next level
02:58 PM CaptHindsight: $999 plastic knob maker
02:59 PM gregcnc: a lathe or mill takes much more to get going and be productive
02:59 PM CaptHindsight: FDM vs SLS vs CNC for small plastic parts
02:59 PM CaptHindsight: the showdown begins
02:59 PM gregcnc: newbs have no idea anyway
02:59 PM gregcnc: as far what is needed to make what
03:00 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: why not an FDM with exchangable RC motor spindle
03:00 PM fragalot: and a laser module
03:00 PM CaptHindsight: cake icing extruder
03:01 PM fragalot: chocolate.
03:01 PM CaptHindsight: vs low volume injection molding
03:01 PM gloops: those cakes machines are mesmerising to watch
03:02 PM gregcnc: https://youtu.be/iwlESqvRZmw?t=41
03:02 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSPAyaZkar4
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: and my Dunkin doughnuts manages to get syrup all over the outside of the cups
03:05 PM CaptHindsight: i think that there is a market for custom printed chocolates and candies for fund raisers
03:06 PM CaptHindsight: your name a face on it when under 12
03:06 PM CaptHindsight: or design the chocolate with your phone
03:08 PM gregcnc: image relief chocolate molds?
03:08 PM CaptHindsight: corn starch based
03:09 PM CaptHindsight: or just print food coloring onto standard candy
03:09 PM gloops: plenty of fine old machines on ebay groaning for restoration and cnc conversion https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Lathe-Myford-ML10/223414693775?
03:10 PM CaptHindsight: https://mycustomcandy.com/ already out
03:10 PM gloops: get that for 300, there was one restored a few weeks ago for quite a few thousand
03:28 PM Tom_L: machine buying monday?
04:17 PM CaptHindsight: how do you get Chinese companies to stop sending you spam about quoting your cnc and proto needs?
04:18 PM CaptHindsight: send them detailed models and ask for all sorts of different quantities and tolerances?
04:21 PM CaptHindsight: http://brainden.com/images/devils-fork-big.gif in various sizes
04:21 PM CaptHindsight: and materials
04:22 PM Deejay: gn8
05:49 PM gloops: warmest winter day on record according to sky news
05:53 PM Tom_L: was pretty warm here today
05:53 PM gloops: ive had a t-shirt on all day, not normal for february, even in yorkshire lol
05:56 PM Tom_L: 59°F
05:56 PM jthornton: 47°F here sorta clear most of the day
05:57 PM gloops: 20C here, whats that about 70f
05:57 PM jthornton: wow that candling light is bright when used as a flashlight
05:58 PM jthornton: 8°C here
05:58 PM Tom_L: 68F
05:58 PM Tom_L: gloops
05:58 PM pink_vampire: hi
05:58 PM Tom_L: close enough
05:58 PM CaptHindsight: polar vortex is hanging out just north of us 20F here
05:59 PM pink_vampire: here is 30F
05:59 PM gloops: yeah near enough, it hit 20 in wales, first time its done that in winter, i dont think it was that far off where i am
06:00 PM CaptHindsight: -13C here tonight (9f)
06:01 PM CaptHindsight: back to -20C next week, this is nuts this late in the winter here
06:01 PM jthornton: Tom_L: you got rain coming your way?
06:03 PM jthornton: we get rain wed and thur they are saying
06:03 PM Tom_L: 20% tuesday 50% wednesday
06:03 PM Tom_L: 28/18 wednesday so cooling off again
06:06 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/Dd1gTrr.png
06:06 PM Jymmm: What a lovely rainy for the next 5 days, to have the car break down on the side of the highway and wait 2 hours for a tow truck
06:06 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/CJOz4PW.png - the inside
06:08 PM andypugh: pink_vampire: Looks like some sort of box :-)
06:08 PM pink_vampire: this is the original speed controller that come with the g0704
06:08 PM pink_vampire: i moved the fuse holders to the front
06:09 PM andypugh: I was thinking it might be that. It has a similar look to the one on my lathe/mill
06:09 PM Jymmm: But, at least had the sheriff, 3 calFire crews and chp ask if we needed help
06:12 PM jthornton: sounds like a busy road
06:14 PM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: you have had a string of breakdowns
06:22 PM skunkworks: andypugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gHbemDWXudQ&t=2s
06:23 PM skunkworks: the amt encoders are not that great
06:26 PM andypugh: skunkworks: I watched that yesterday.
06:26 PM andypugh: I wonder if the problem is with the 5v supply? Were the tests with bth motors with the same supply?
06:27 PM andypugh: pink_vampire: What are you doing with the control box?
06:29 PM pink_vampire: I'm mount it in the panel
06:29 PM skunkworks: I tried a normal optical encoder on the same servo - it is quiet.. (using the same cable - a cui line driver cable for thier encoders)
06:30 PM skunkworks: the accuracy of the cui claim to be .25 degrees...
06:30 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/O407ivD.png - drilling the back side
06:31 PM andypugh: This is wierd. I get an email telling me about every new subscriber to the forum. In the last few hours I have seen 2 female-sounding names and so far no spam. (It’s a bit of a shame, but 50% of spammers are girl-names and about 1% of actual CNC subscribers are)
06:32 PM andypugh: pink_vampire: That’s very zealous. I think I would use a centre-punch and the cordless drill :-)
06:33 PM pink_vampire: take me less time to send the gcode then even think about scribbling with the caliper
06:34 PM pink_vampire: it is for the din rail mount clamps
06:36 PM andypugh: I found some nice and cheap DIN rail clamps. They are sold for SSRs, but can be easily modded: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/283254203606
06:37 PM pink_vampire: i'm using the plastic ones
06:37 PM andypugh: Plastic ones are fine, of course. But the SSR ones turned out to be really nice for the STMBL drives.
06:39 PM pink_vampire: i just have bunch of them here
06:41 PM andypugh: Anyhow, time I was gone, early start tomorrow. I am supposed to be randomly driving a pickup truck around the countryside. Blame Volkswagen.
07:32 PM _unreal_: OHHH my god.... my finger... HULK smash own finger
07:32 PM norias: hah
07:33 PM _unreal_: when I got to work in the morning I crusshed my finger left hand middle with in 15min
07:33 PM _unreal_: with a moneky wrench that slipped
07:36 PM jdh: ouch.
07:36 PM jdh: don't do that.
07:41 PM norias: hmm
07:42 PM norias: i think i just installed telnetd on my mac
08:38 PM Jymmm: norias: that's a bad thing to install
08:38 PM norias: bleh
08:38 PM norias: so be it
10:48 PM pink_vampire: is there linux cnc for raspberry pi?
10:50 PM Tom_L: dunno if machinekit works on it or not
10:50 PM Tom_L: i doubt it
10:50 PM Tom_L: i think it's meant for beaglebone black etc
10:51 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure though
10:58 PM pink_vampire: I want to ry making a new machine with bipod kinematics