#linuxcnc Logs

Feb 01 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:31 AM fragalot: https://i.imgur.com/FkZoFaW.jpg
01:08 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
01:52 AM Deejay: moin
02:20 AM Loetmichel: moin Deejay
04:42 AM jthornton: morning
04:47 AM XXCoder: morning
05:17 AM Tom_L: morning
05:18 AM XXCoder: wow tues is predicted to be quite cold also apparently, but monday now has no snow prediction
05:18 AM XXCoder: aw.
05:19 AM Tom_L: 24F Hi 47
05:19 AM XXCoder: btw https://beta.scmp.com/news/china/society/article/2184526/nio-chinas-answer-tesla-faces-online-heat-after-car-jam-beijing lol
05:19 AM XXCoder: thats insane
06:20 AM * Loetmichel is just designing his first part in MoI (3dcad)... A letterbox-lock. and its EASY!... no idea why i had that much angxiety for 3d until now...
06:21 AM XXCoder: i should bring https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1257186 once I print it to work lol
06:21 AM XXCoder: see what they say
06:22 AM jthornton: lol
06:22 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: funny. dont use too much force though. could be a bit inaccurate if you do ;)
06:22 AM XXCoder: indeed lol
06:23 AM XXCoder: they left extra material at andvil so can sand down till its zero when its meeting
06:23 AM Loetmichel: use stainless filled filament and polish it... then throw a hissy fit over something and throw it in the corner when some coworker is looking ;)
06:23 AM XXCoder: lol
06:33 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: someone did that at a company i worked for a few decades back with a "good/bad" cylindircal gauge block (looks like a dog bone, no idea what they are called in english) that he had borrowed from the companys tool storage. He turned a "copy" from mild steel, then went back a day later and told the man at the tool storage: "WHAT A PIECE OF ("/§$/(§$, DOESENT FIT A SINGLE PART!!!"
06:33 AM Loetmichel: and proceeded to throw the copy with full force across the room into the brick wall
06:33 AM Loetmichel: the face of the guy at the tool storage: priceless!
06:34 AM XXCoder: I know of those good/bad "double pin" yeah. dunno name also lol
06:34 AM XXCoder: LOL
07:00 AM jthornton: Go/No Go gauge
07:00 AM XXCoder: pretty simple name. thanks
07:09 AM Loetmichel: anyways, $me nearly pissed himself laughing when the coworker did that
07:10 AM Loetmichel: those precision gauges are stored there in a wooden case with velvet liner inside...
07:10 AM Loetmichel: and are pretty expensive
07:11 AM XXCoder: of course
07:11 AM XXCoder: one job at work needs .3305 - .331" so we have special gage pins for those
07:12 AM XXCoder: pins have +- .0002" (depends on negative or postive pins) but those have much smaller +-
07:42 AM beachbumpete1: Hey Folks howzitgoin today? :)
07:43 AM XXCoder: hey beach
07:44 AM beachbumpete1: Hey man its been ahwile since I have been around here :)
07:44 AM beachbumpete1: Been workin' my azz off
07:44 AM XXCoder: yeah was wondering
07:45 AM beachbumpete1: got a project we are working on making some stainless steel structural supports for some bay windows
07:45 AM beachbumpete1: gonna have to drill a buttload of holes in 1/2 inch 304 stainless plate
07:45 AM beachbumpete1: trying to determine the best choice of drill for that right now
07:45 AM beachbumpete1: gonna be doing it in our HAAS VF4
07:47 AM Loetmichel: beachbumpete1: our sheet metal guy just said he is done with a few enclosures made from 1,5mm aluminium... 17k 3mm holes stamped for airflow... he said the sheet were "clicking" more than 3mm each at the air vents before going thru the rollers
07:48 AM beachbumpete1: we were thinking about just getting a handful of cobalt HSS screw machine length drills but carbide is an option
07:48 AM Loetmichel: seems he needs a new 3mm punch tool for the CNC punch ;)
07:49 AM beachbumpete1: woah thats a bunch of holes man :)
07:49 AM gregcnc: last night I go to start the van, and it won't even unlock after the two days in -25°F
07:49 AM beachbumpete1: hell I wouldn't unlock in that temperature either ;)
07:49 AM gregcnc: battery drained dead
07:49 AM gregcnc: but nothing was on
07:50 AM gregcnc: I should have measured current to see if it's something other than a light
07:56 AM gregcnc: good deal around here https://rockford.craigslist.org/tls/d/harvard-jet-bandsaw-lathe/6808355648.html
08:00 AM beachbumpete1: anyone done a lot of stainless drilling recently that used a kickazz drill that they would recommend?
08:00 AM XXCoder: for very hard part I used cobolt. lasts much longer but you should use carbide for final sizing or mill
08:01 AM XXCoder: very strong drill lol lasted way longer than carbide would
08:01 AM beachbumpete1: well technically this stuff is NOT that hard but you know stainless is always a bitch
08:01 AM XXCoder: yeah
08:02 AM XXCoder: stainless isnt too common at work but usually an annoyance
08:02 AM beachbumpete1: I saw that Norseman drills makes a stainless specific drill that has a narrower web to apparently create less heat/rubbing but they do not appear to come in screw machine length
08:02 AM beachbumpete1: my pal Sammy said he uses YG1 carbide dream drills in stainlesss but they are like $100 a piece or more in that size
08:03 AM XXCoder: is that that weird drill that have fullsize initally but strunks
08:03 AM SpeedEvil: Buy enough chinese drills to do a pilot at one per hole.
08:03 AM XXCoder: what size is hole youre considering anyway
08:03 AM gregcnc: i would have suggested dream drills, but many make stanliess specific drills
08:05 AM XXCoder: because if its larger holes you could consider inserts type
08:05 AM XXCoder: cheaper
08:08 AM Loetmichel: beachbumpete1: i always use Tungsten carbide drill bits for stainless
08:08 AM beachbumpete1: yeah Sammy suggested insert drill as well but I think they would be more
08:08 AM Loetmichel: bot only in the CNC
08:08 AM Loetmichel: freehand and carbide is a nogo
08:09 AM XXCoder: theres few types, i have used lathe drill type on mill, as well as bit strange one that has entire tip replacable
08:09 AM beachbumpete1: yeah this will be in the CNC
08:09 AM XXCoder: I would guess tip is $40 to $60 each but then its wah cheaper than replacing entire drill which is in few hundred bucks?
08:09 AM gregcnc: the indexable tip type are quite costly. It seems like tips cost as much as solid drills
08:10 AM gregcnc: the saving is in the setup
08:10 AM XXCoder: greg the tip type I used is for fiberglass. it eats drills fairly slowly but if it was solid drill it'd have strunk lol
08:11 AM XXCoder: inserts is more immune to that and lasts miore than twice as long
08:11 AM Loetmichel: inserts are usually "less sharp" than solid though
08:11 AM XXCoder: beach it really depends. cobolt drill for example is extremely tough but very expensive if I recall right
08:12 AM Loetmichel: so not that ideal for stainless or any other "tough" material
08:12 AM gregcnc: dream drill are not sharp
08:12 AM gregcnc: they have a honed edge
08:12 AM beachbumpete1: you gotta CUT the stainless for sure
08:12 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: ya other type insert is better, the lathe type (2 inserts )
08:12 AM SpeedEvil: Turn it up to 11, and flow drill.
08:13 AM beachbumpete1: unfortunately I dont have tsc on this machine
08:13 AM XXCoder: sometimes its better to just drill smaller hole then do mill then finish mill
08:14 AM Loetmichel: SpeedEvil: you mean with a blunt cylindrical "bit" that makes the material red hot by friction and "flows" it away?
08:14 AM SpeedEvil: Loetmichel: yes
08:14 AM XXCoder: all the abuse is on drill, and first mill. finish mill should last damn near forever if you take only small amont off, and stays within tol
08:14 AM gregcnc: The iscar tipped drills have many types of inserts, i don't have any for SS but steel and especially aluminum are sharp
08:25 AM gregcnc: beachbumpete1 this looks about right https://www.instagram.com/p/BtSj9YBlNkv/
08:28 AM XXCoder: dont you need to clean up afterwards?
08:31 AM beachbumpete1: gregcnc: WOAH lets not try that
08:34 AM gregcnc: lol
08:42 AM gregcnc: This looks like fun citizen L12 https://youtu.be/o_YiCvXeFtk?t=30
09:40 AM Loetmichel: gregcnc/ beachbumpete1: stainless is "tough but soft" meaning it tends to flow rather than getting cut. kinda like aluminium. so aluminium tools are not the worst decision for stainless. also stainless does work harden, so its even more important to CUT it and not "shove it around"
09:41 AM gregcnc: yes, I know and do use aluminum tooling on SS occasionally
09:43 AM gregcnc: I was going to try a dream drill inox on aluminum, but found it had honed edges. they have AL grades
09:51 AM beachbumpete1: Loetmichel: THanks for the tips man. and everyone else for that matter
09:54 AM beachbumpete1: just pulled the trigger on half a dozen 1/2" cobalt precision twist drills brand stub/screw machine length drills. hopefully they will kick azz and make it thru the job :)
09:55 AM MacGalempsy: good morning
10:29 AM MacGalempsy: My first successful 3D Scan. https://flic.kr/p/2dqLg5S
10:39 AM gregcnc: looks like it caught every gastly detail
10:41 AM MacGalempsy: the model is about 10" tall.
10:43 AM MacGalempsy: smaller scans take some cleanup, and shiny black plastic gets a coat of powder
11:22 AM Loetmichel: *GNHIHI* i am watching a series of a canadian framer that is builing a two story house alone... todays video had a comment under it: "The Crazy Framer when you enter a bar, Chuck Norris is running thru the batroom window!" :-)
11:23 AM Loetmichel: ... that man is a BEAST... ;)
12:15 PM rmu: cool https://hsto.org/webt/0p/90/7e/0p907ezbunekqwobeogjgs5fgsa.jpeg
12:19 PM fragalot: huzzah, free trade agreement with japan
12:19 PM Joe_Hildreth: Hello all, I have a small question about the stepconf wizard.
12:19 PM fragalot: Hello good chisels! :D
12:20 PM Joe_Hildreth: If you select 2 parallel ports, you will be presented with a "Parallel Por 2" dialog. You can select if this port is input or output, but you cannot set the address or enumeration of the port.
12:22 PM Joe_Hildreth: I am working on another tutorial and am not sure this is and oversight or a bug.
12:26 PM Joe_Hildreth: I see that when the hal file is written it specifies the enumerated port number, but without editing the cofig file there is no way to set the address instead of an enumerated port.
12:29 PM fragalot: it sounds like a bug to me
12:29 PM pcw_mesa: sure sounds like a bug
12:40 PM Joe_Hildreth: I have put the video tutorial on hold for now, is there anyway to get it fixed, or should I continue with the tutorial and explain it to the neophyte user?
12:43 PM sensille: damn, i finally found my problem with bad Z
12:43 PM fragalot: sensille: what was it?
12:43 PM sensille: as someone suggested the other day, an entry in the tool table
12:43 PM sensille: i never looked at it, so i assumed it to be all zero
12:43 PM sensille: but it wasn't
12:44 PM sensille: also moved max Z to 1, so 0 is safe
12:52 PM sensille: it was 0.1, no wonder i was going crazy
12:52 PM sensille: (mm)
01:06 PM gloops: done any cutting yet sensille?
01:08 PM sensille: https://i.imgur.com/u0wopR9.jpg
01:12 PM gloops: that looks pretty good to me
01:13 PM sensille: i'm very happy with that one
01:13 PM sensille: but i really not to learn a lot about z
01:13 PM sensille: s/not/need
01:13 PM sensille: like checking the bed and the stock beforehand, and mill the stock flat
01:14 PM gloops: practice makes perfect
01:14 PM sensille: and to get into the mindset
01:16 PM gloops: i found i took a few mistakes before i realised what was really happening with some things
01:18 PM sensille: next challenge is to put the workpiece into the vice and mill the fillets on the backside
01:19 PM gloops: what machine are you using?
01:19 PM sensille: https://i.imgur.com/pD9ybQU.jpg
01:20 PM sensille: 6040Z
01:20 PM gloops: oh yeah - Loetmichel was right they are ok for aluminium then
01:21 PM sensille: yeah, but max stepdown i use is 0.15mm, better 0.1
01:21 PM sensille: that piece above took 3 hours
01:22 PM gloops: have you looked at the adaptive milling strategies on F360?
01:22 PM gloops: some people in here are allegedly cutting a lot of time off - with some tasks anyway
01:22 PM sensille: yes, but couldn't get good results with it yet. i used 3d pocket for the above
01:23 PM Loetmichel: gloops: they are ok for aluminium, as long as the mill bit is razor sharp and the milling forces are pretty low
01:23 PM gloops: well ive only done a few tests with alu on mine, i was around .1mm cut as well
01:24 PM Loetmichel: any deeper into the alu with a 3mm two flute than about 0.15mm full cut and the gantry starts to flex
01:24 PM sensille: and it makes a _terrible_ noise
01:24 PM Loetmichel: sensille: indeed ,)
01:25 PM gloops: must be some way to stiffen the gantry
01:25 PM Loetmichel: sadly: there isnt
01:25 PM sensille: accidentally i cut 1mm once, it was terifying, but nothing broke
01:25 PM Loetmichel: short of buying new rails for it
01:26 PM Loetmichel: it uses unsupported 25mm diameter rails
01:26 PM Loetmichel: on the gantry
01:27 PM Loetmichel: on ~600mm (275mm travel) length unsupported rails make for quite a bit of flex
01:27 PM gloops: my gantry is heavy and rigid, but im using sbr rails, maybe thats the issue with mine, i never really did any proper tests though, just a quick run with a straight flute router cutter, i need to have another go
01:27 PM gloops: yeah unsupported rails wont take it
01:27 PM Loetmichel: one time i will buy some SBR 16 and then make a new ganty with a 200by 60 aluminium tube as the gantry beam
01:28 PM Loetmichel: THAT should be able to do 1mm deep cuts then ;)
01:28 PM gloops: what spindle speeds are you using?
01:28 PM sensille: Loetmichel: do you think the result is better right in the corner?
01:28 PM Loetmichel: 24krpm for a 2/3mm two flute
01:28 PM Loetmichel: sensille: i dont think so. i KNOW its better
01:29 PM gloops: wow, so fast? i was trying to slow mine down as much as possible, about 7k
01:29 PM Loetmichel: the nearer you are to the side walls
01:29 PM sensille: that's good to know, never thought of that before. at least the vice is well placed then
01:29 PM sensille: but the spoil board isn't
01:29 PM Loetmichel: gloops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=m7eO5cu-fXg <- 1200mm/min, 24krpm, 0,15mm DOC, 2mm 2 flute cutting 3,5mm hexagons
01:30 PM gloops: i like the overall wobble lol
01:30 PM gloops: but impressive cutting
01:31 PM Loetmichel: yeah, the stand under it is just a PC desk
01:31 PM Loetmichel: on wheels
01:31 PM gloops: well it seems to work
01:31 PM Loetmichel: thats where the wobble comes from
01:32 PM Loetmichel: the spindle is nearly stationary, the machine moves around it ;)
01:32 PM gloops: i think it might have been the cutter i was using that held mine back, i didnt want to use a good cutter i just used an old router cutter
01:33 PM Loetmichel: yeah, i only use those: https://www.sorotec.de/shop/Cutting-Tools/sorotec-tools/1-8-tools/1-8--Shaft-Mill-Tools/2-Flute-ALU/?language=en
01:33 PM Loetmichel: works pretty well
01:33 PM sensille: i did the above completely with a 3mm ball end mill
01:35 PM gloops: ive got plenty of one and two flute spiral cutters now i think ill try again, if theyre better ill get some proper alu cutters
01:43 PM fragalot: has anyone got a good european supplier in mind that sells downcut 6mm bullnose endmills for stainless?
01:43 PM fragalot: or near-neutral or neutral would also work
01:48 PM gloops: any particular specs for stainless?
01:48 PM gloops: or, do you want a dedicated stainless cutter
01:53 PM roycroft: hey folks
01:53 PM roycroft: i'd like to be able to easily and reliably grind drills to custom profiles, primarily brad point
01:54 PM roycroft: it looks like the standard tool grinders such as the deckel so or clones of it won't fit the bill
01:54 PM roycroft: any suggestions on something that will do that?
01:54 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hitachi-Cutting-Tools-Hpbs-2020C-Hyper-Ball-Short-End-Mill/132456012749?
01:54 PM roycroft: when i need a brad point drill that's not one of the common sizes, it costs $10 or more greater than a twist drill of the same size
01:55 PM gloops: Hitachi cutters are supposed to be good, the ball nose cutters, probably less prone to snap with stainless, the cheapo ones might be more economical
01:55 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Solid-Carbide-4-Flute-Ballnose-End-Mills-TiAlN-Coated-3-4-6-8-10-12-16mm-Endmill/182136508968?
01:55 PM roycroft: https://www.ebay.com/itm/223321069585
01:56 PM roycroft: that is tempting, especially if i could get a drill attachment and a end mill attachment relatively inexpensively, but i don't think i can grind a brad point profile with it
02:17 PM fragalot: roycroft: you actually can
02:18 PM roycroft: the stone isn't too wide for that?
02:18 PM fragalot: I've been meaning to make an endmill attachment for mine, so far i've just made an ER25 adapter for it instead of the deckel collets
02:18 PM fragalot: roycroft: just dress the stone into the shape you want, or put in a diamond or CBN wheel
02:18 PM roycroft: hmm
02:19 PM fragalot: the ebay cheapie CBN wheels are "good enough" in my experience
02:19 PM fragalot: sharpening the tips on endmills goes well, but I can't do the sides (yet)
02:19 PM roycroft: the knock-offs are fairly compatible with the real thing
02:19 PM roycroft: i looked at knock-offs at first
02:19 PM roycroft: because they're $600-$900
02:19 PM fragalot: i've got a 20yr old knock-off
02:19 PM roycroft: and a brand new deckel so is $10k
02:20 PM roycroft: but for $800, a used deckel could be a pretty good deal
02:20 PM roycroft: there's a grizzly i was looking at
02:20 PM roycroft: https://www.grizzly.com/products/Grizzly-Tool-Grinder-with-Cup-Grinding-Wheel/T10814
02:20 PM roycroft: that might work ok
02:21 PM roycroft: they have an add-on package to do drills, end mills, and lathe tooling
02:21 PM fragalot: probably would, depending on your requirements for precision / repeatability
02:21 PM fragalot: cutting the flutes on an endmill might require some TLC first :P
02:21 PM roycroft: for making brad point drills for woodworking i'd say semi-precise would be fine
02:22 PM roycroft: if i wanted to resharpen end mills i'd want to remove the word "semi-"
02:22 PM fragalot: yeah, i've even used mine for "brad point" style drills for sheet metal
02:22 PM roycroft: and it would be nice to be able to do that
02:22 PM roycroft: if i'm going to invest $1k in a grinder i want to get as much use out of it as possible
02:23 PM roycroft: the grizzly would probably need some fine tuning out of the box to do precision work
02:23 PM roycroft: a brand new deckel would work fine out of the box
02:23 PM roycroft: but an old used one might need some work
02:26 PM fragalot: still a high chance of it being better than the chinese one to start out with
02:27 PM roycroft: yes, that's what i think
02:27 PM roycroft: grizzly have another grinder that is quite similar, but maid in taiwan for $1k more
02:27 PM roycroft: https://www.grizzly.com/catalog/2019/main/738?p=738
02:27 PM roycroft: that page shows the two different models
02:28 PM roycroft: and i'm not sure what the difference is that makes the second one worth $1k more
02:28 PM roycroft: the second one does say that it has a dividing head
02:28 PM roycroft: and the first does not
02:28 PM roycroft: but i thought that was a standard feature on the deckel clones
02:29 PM roycroft: that's an important feature
02:32 PM CaptHindsight: no "makers" have stepped up to the challenge of a universal tool grinder?!
02:34 PM roycroft: i'm really thinking that the used deckel would be the thing to get
02:34 PM roycroft: the only drawback is that it's 3 phase
02:34 PM roycroft: so i'd need a phase converter for it
02:34 PM roycroft: but that's not a deal breaker
02:34 PM roycroft: just a minor annoyance
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: they practically give VFD's away now
02:35 PM roycroft: i've found single phase versions on ebay, but they're 3-4x as much
02:35 PM roycroft: because people think it's hard to do phase conversion or something
02:35 PM roycroft: yeah, i'm sure i can get a vfd for that for <$100
02:35 PM CaptHindsight: they find it difficult to explain
02:36 PM roycroft: i don't need variable speed
02:36 PM roycroft: but a variable speed vfd is probably the cheapest way to go
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: the 1ph motor in my Clausing burned out so i replaced it with a 3ph and figured I'd replace the hydraulic speed system with electronic...
02:38 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest98685
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: after letting the system sit for a while all the air in the system bled out and it works like new
02:39 PM CaptHindsight: gregcnc: have you noticed how few lathes are for sale locally lately?
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: it's also an easy motor swap on the deckel
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/lQsAAOSwofdbXxhr/s-l1600.jpg
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: belt driven
02:45 PM gregcnc: yes, I've been watching since I crashed mine
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: any LC projects lately?
03:11 PM MacGalempsy: kind of
03:12 PM MacGalempsy: I bought a 200 series 2 weeks ago, so kind of working on that. however, the 40 series is at the restoration shop
03:12 PM MacGalempsy: CaptHindsight: have you been able to keep your shop warm?
03:13 PM MacGalempsy: also, been trying to sell this sinker EDM to get it out of my mother-in-laws garage... it is all trailered up and just waiting on a buyer lol
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: heh, heat kicked on every 20 minutes Tues till this am
03:14 PM CaptHindsight: we keep it ~60F so not really a problem
03:14 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
03:15 PM MacGalempsy: have you been searching for anymore geologic deposits lately?
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: we didn't break the record here, only went down to -25F
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: settled on the glacial deposits in the area, not ideal but very local
03:16 PM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: just a few miles shy of 300K on my 90 series
03:17 PM CaptHindsight: sorry 80 series
03:17 PM CaptHindsight: will pull apart the front and read diffs again to see any wear
03:17 PM MacGalempsy: sweet! the only thing so far with the 200 series is the 14mpg...
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: injectors are just starting to go
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: the Grand Tour had 6 new LC's die last season
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: they don't make them like they used to
03:18 PM MacGalempsy: who is the Grand Tour?
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: the guys from Top Gear
03:19 PM MacGalempsy: the 40 series is getting a 2B engine that was rebuilt and has 700 miles on it
03:19 PM MacGalempsy: 2b is a mechanical diesel
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Grand_Tour
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: where is the diesel from?
03:20 PM MacGalempsy: Australia and it came factory 12v
03:20 PM MacGalempsy: the guy I bought it from got sponsored by Cummins, so he pulled it
03:21 PM MacGalempsy: the only think that was necessary was matching the transfer case to the new transmission
03:21 PM MacGalempsy: the guys at advanced adapters did it for ~1300.
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: yeah a few years ago I looked at making adapter plates
03:22 PM MacGalempsy: this is a plate and a splined spindle
03:23 PM MacGalempsy: and a few extra things, like a burnt gear and shift fork
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: mine will probably be legislated off the road before I wear it out
03:26 PM MacGalempsy: https://oklahomacity.craigslist.org/tls/d/us-military-kipper-tools-proto-toolbox/6792561405.html worth it?
03:27 PM MacGalempsy: probably not metric...
03:32 PM CaptHindsight: pcs to low res to see
03:33 PM CaptHindsight: I see 16ths on the sockets )
03:34 PM MacGalempsy: CaptHindsight: did you see the 3D scan pic I posted earlier? it was a pretty amazing result, much better than expected
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: yes
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: the creature
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: bbl
03:36 PM MacGalempsy: the scan of the LC knobs is coming out fairly well, but not as good as that
03:36 PM MacGalempsy: bye
03:54 PM Deejay: gn8
04:04 PM Net|: https://github.com/tecan/QSatisfy
04:42 PM Tom_L: speaking of Grand Tour, there have been 4 new ones released this year
06:29 PM Roguish_ is now known as Roguish
06:49 PM Net|: is there such thing as remote electric drills for pressure relief or draining gas tanks ?
06:50 PM Net|: mechanical/magnetic attach
06:59 PM Vitran: ? What would that look like?
06:59 PM Vitran: Like a drill pump?
07:06 PM Roguish_ is now known as Roguish
09:15 PM MacGalempsy: tgif
09:32 PM Tom_L: yup
09:38 PM MacGalempsy: staying nice and warm Tom_L?
09:43 PM Tom_L: tryin
09:44 PM Tom_L: it was really foggy this morning
09:44 PM Tom_L: expecting the same tomorrow probably
09:44 PM MacGalempsy: meh...i cannot wait for spring to get here
09:45 PM Tom_L: warmin up next couple days then back down again
09:45 PM Tom_L: 64 by sunday hopefully
09:47 PM MacGalempsy: still trying to get moved back into the old workspace
09:47 PM MacGalempsy: seems like there are a half dozen monittors sitting around here...
10:04 PM _unreal_: sup
10:05 PM ziper: hi
10:05 PM _unreal_: do any of you know of a linux utility for sysing a harddrive to make it boot win98?
10:18 PM Tom_L: 98 is pretty old
10:19 PM `Wolf_: i think win 98 is dos boot
10:20 PM Tom_L: https://forums.majorgeeks.com/threads/dual-boot-win98-and-linux.90109/
10:20 PM Tom_L: he's gone anyway
10:20 PM Tom_L: knoppix live cd might work
10:21 PM `Wolf_: yeah, or one of the other half dozen popular utility boot disks lol
10:22 PM `Wolf_: would have been faster for him to google it anyways
10:22 PM `Wolf_: I bet I still have a win 98 boot disk here somewhere, on 3.5” floppy
10:23 PM Tom_L: i've got a couple stashed away
11:00 PM XXCoder: tgif allll day
11:00 PM XXCoder: hey gloops