#linuxcnc Logs

Jan 22 2019

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:52 AM ktchk2: nativecam embadded ubuntu not working any idea??
02:19 AM rmu: seems there is demand for linuxcnc support channel with guaranteed response time ;-)
02:19 AM Loetmichel: rmu: yes, i noticed.
02:19 AM Loetmichel: 1 minute attention span at best ;)
02:48 AM Deejay: moin
03:27 AM jelly-home is now known as jelly
03:53 AM ktchk2: nativecam embedded working under debian, ubuntu not anyone made it work???
04:03 AM rmu: ktchk2: what is the problem?
04:22 AM jthornton: morning
04:33 AM jthornton: 35°F high 44°F for the day a bit of warmer wet weather till tomorrow then back down
04:44 AM ktchk2: rmu: the ubuntu installation is not embedded and not tool table input
05:14 AM MacGalempsy: cold and a long drive to Midland today...
05:18 AM Tom_L: morning
05:18 AM Tom_L: 45, Hi 47, Lo 21
05:21 AM Tom_L: windy as heck
06:08 AM jthornton: anyone want to read through this tutorial and see if they spot any mistakes https://qtpyvcp.kcjengr.com/tutorials/basic_vcp.html
06:09 AM XXCoder: looking
06:13 AM jthornton: thanks
06:14 AM XXCoder: looks good so far. i plan to actually follow it later but still bit sick and tired so later lol
06:14 AM XXCoder: im liking how customizble ui is so far!
06:14 AM jthornton: hmm you might need a refresh to get the latest page it just rebuilt
06:15 AM XXCoder: im at thjird page
06:15 AM XXCoder: adding 3 buttons part
06:20 AM XXCoder: only complant is simply due to my visual issues lol disabled text is too faint lol but thats very typical anyway
06:20 AM XXCoder: amazing tutorial so far :D
06:22 AM XXCoder: either my page isnt refreshed or pagation for last 2 pages isnt connected? lemme try
06:23 AM XXCoder: ah "basic vcp" then "starting with vcp
06:24 AM jthornton: getting started is the old tutorial, basic vcp is the new one I'm making
06:24 AM XXCoder: no wonder i was confused a bit lol it seemed to start agaibn
06:24 AM XXCoder: well first 4 pages seems well done
06:25 AM Loetmichel: niiiice... i like competent suppliers... $me calling a connector guy: "i need a DVI plug cover with sideways cable and maximum 30mm height!"... guy: there isnt such a thing on the market... gimme i moment i have an idea!"... calls back 30 min later: "we have a metal shielding insert for a plastic plug thats in your restraints, not pretty without the plastic, but it fits... The plastic shells
06:25 AM Loetmichel: you can throw away, cant you?" $me: "GREEEAT, i saw me milling a press mould to make those from 0.3mm brass already!" *proceeds to order 5000*
06:26 AM XXCoder: lol
06:27 AM Loetmichel: s/5000/500
06:28 AM XXCoder: 5000/500 so thats hmm 50 ;)
06:28 AM XXCoder: erm 10
06:28 AM Loetmichel: hihi
06:28 AM Loetmichel: no, i just had a nervous typing finger. its 500 pcs i need
06:29 AM XXCoder: yeah had to kid on division ;)
06:29 AM Loetmichel: would have been an ordeal to make those covers myself
06:29 AM XXCoder: but dang i cant imange needing 500 of thay
06:29 AM XXCoder: cant imange needing 2 of em
06:30 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: i am at the company. we have an order for ~400 custom build PCs
06:30 AM Loetmichel: with integrated 12" Display
06:30 AM XXCoder: yeah company can have so many of odd stuff
06:31 AM XXCoder: we have order of 800 what I call shivs
06:31 AM XXCoder: (really, would be great as giant shivs)
06:31 AM XXCoder: and running hundreds of very hard metal disks that need part # engraved on it
06:32 AM XXCoder: its so hard that it kills tool each 30 parts or so
06:32 AM XXCoder: and tool is $10 each if really cheap kind
06:32 AM XXCoder: company dont buy really cheap kind
06:42 AM rmu: sound like a job for a laser
06:43 AM XXCoder: lol inconel laughs at laser
06:44 AM XXCoder: its nickel based alloy so its extremely strong
06:44 AM XXCoder: it can be used inside jet engine
06:45 AM XXCoder: besides marking isnt enough, it must have .003" depth cut. so its readable even with coating
06:46 AM rmu: marking should be possible, but engraving... with a laser... probably not
06:47 AM rmu: AFAIK inconel cuts easily with laser, like stainless steel
06:48 AM rmu: but i'm no expert
06:48 AM XXCoder: google says yes
06:48 AM XXCoder: interesting
06:49 AM rmu: stuff with high reflectivity in IR would be hard to cut, like copper, gold
07:04 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: i have to put THAT display (lowest pic shows the DVI plug) http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16956&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
07:04 AM Loetmichel: on top of THAT enclosure -> https://imgur.com/a/Np0sN9L
07:04 AM Loetmichel: see my space problem?
07:05 AM XXCoder: fun
07:05 AM Loetmichel: display is flush with the lower edge of the heatpipe enclosure
07:06 AM Loetmichel: ah sorry. you saw it in the other channel already
07:06 AM XXCoder: ya lol
07:06 AM Loetmichel: didnt notice that you are in both
07:06 AM XXCoder: im in ALL CHANNELS
07:06 AM XXCoder: kidding
07:08 AM rmu: hehe. "WHY DO YOU DO THAT?"
07:08 AM XXCoder: i cant imange how much text i'd get if i was in all channels
07:42 AM veek: anyone decipher this video - bandsaw blades - shows how they attach the teeth https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4VO4vJTfs6w
07:43 AM veek: i didn't get the initial bit whith the blow torches.. are they punching the teeth after heating the metal or welding two strips
07:44 AM gregcnc: hardeneing, they are being cooled with water right after
07:48 AM gregcnc: OK apparentyl the tooth itself is a tig welded lump of metal
07:48 AM veek: gregcnc, oh but.. why the three ribbons/grooves at the base of the teeth
07:49 AM veek: (look at the very beginning) you can see the teeth tips flowing past the blowtorch without being heated
07:50 AM veek: 0:09 or so
07:50 AM gregcnc: they are tempering at that point. I hadn't seen the tooth being welded
07:51 AM veek: gregcnc, what steel do they use for that blade..
07:52 AM veek: as in it's not plate steel .. could it be mild steel in rolled form?
07:52 AM gregcnc: usually something softer for the back, so it doesn't crack, something harder for the teeth, then you have the tooth itself in some cases
07:53 AM veek: the gullets don't actually cut.. so it looks to be more to absorb the force that the carbide teeth are subject to
07:57 AM veek: man it would have been cool if they showed howto attach teeth to a saw :p
07:57 AM gregcnc: carbide?
07:58 AM veek: gregcnc, yeah they attach blobs of carbide later on.. using .. i think you said TIG welding?
07:59 AM veek: then they grind that carbide down using those huge spinning wheels?
08:01 AM gregcnc: I don't think that's carbide
08:01 AM veek: what is it then?
08:02 AM gregcnc: hard steel
08:02 AM rmu: carbide would be soldered
08:03 AM gregcnc: carbide is brazed on
08:03 AM rmu: yeah brazed
08:03 AM veek: at 2:40
08:04 AM gregcnc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4mf_QRT-yzY
08:04 AM veek: what's that machine at 2:17
08:04 AM gregcnc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8Y0DDs_vSR8
08:05 AM gregcnc: this one is clear
08:05 AM gregcnc: it places teh carbide tooth, and induction brazes
08:06 AM gregcnc: you see the tig torch, and wire feed in your video, it's depositing steel. something harder than the saw blade
08:06 AM gregcnc: are you opening a saw blade MFG shop?
08:06 AM rmu: that machine at 2:17 looks like they weld on some other alloy
08:07 AM veek: gregcnc, nope - not likely heh
08:09 AM rmu: and the video is a hodge podge of all different kinds of sawblades
08:09 AM veek: gregcnc, just curious and this guy on YT had a video comparing his DIY Induction heating setup (similar to what we just saw) to a chinese ordered thingy
08:09 AM veek: so maybe an opportunity will present itself.. it's kind of cool too
08:10 AM gregcnc: DIY induction heater all seem to lack control, how much power did he have?
08:10 AM veek: gregcnc, ah 1s
08:12 AM veek: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gNL4H5fC6AY 330W
08:12 AM veek: 1000W ZVS Induction Heater
08:15 AM gregcnc: I played with one I made from scrounged components. Really needed to buy some better
08:18 AM CNC_Brian: Hi Anybody got any experience of high speed spindle motors and VFD's?
08:18 AM PL7icnc: hi
08:18 AM gregcnc: many here do, what is your question
08:18 AM CNC_Brian: Want to order a BT30 ATC spindel
08:19 AM CNC_Brian: 3.2Kw Jienken
08:19 AM PL7icnc: CNC_Brian, where are you as of polen cheep things
08:19 AM CNC_Brian: But its saying its 380V
08:19 AM PL7icnc: 2,2kw 1800
08:19 AM CNC_Brian: Im in the UK
08:20 AM PL7icnc: so as off 29th you can get them
08:20 AM CNC_Brian: Have seen good reviews of the Jienken products
08:20 AM PL7icnc: let me find them
08:20 AM CNC_Brian: My question is though I only have single phase power so can I run a 380V motor from a single phase supply?
08:21 AM PL7icnc: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Werkzeugwechsler-Spindel-CNC-ATC-Spindle-Automatic-Tool-Change-1-5kw-2-2kw/302754631667
08:21 AM gregcnc: you'll need a transofrmer. Do they not make a 240V version?
08:22 AM CNC_Brian: Seems the winding on the motor are 220 or 380
08:22 AM PL7icnc: CNC_Brian, why going 3kw 2.2kw will do 99percent of all hobby jobs
08:22 AM gregcnc: get the 220V
08:23 AM CNC_Brian: They only make a 1.5Kw 220V ATC with BT30
08:23 AM CNC_Brian: My curent motor is 1.1Kw and at struggles with steel
08:24 AM PL7icnc: there is a 2,2kw on the link
08:24 AM CNC_Brian: So I though a 3.3Kw not running it flat out would be a good upgrade
08:24 AM gregcnc: It's possible the characteristics of the motor require it be wound for higher voltage to achieve 3.3kW
08:25 AM PL7icnc: 2,2kw is max for 1phase
08:25 AM gregcnc: it itsn't
08:25 AM CNC_Brian: Yes I see that. ISO30 tooling seems a bit more difficult to come by
08:25 AM CNC_Brian: ISO20 even
08:25 AM PL7icnc: its basicly the same
08:25 AM PL7icnc: only the clamp on top is different
08:26 AM CNC_Brian: The taper is the same?
08:26 AM PL7icnc: yes
08:26 AM CNC_Brian: The pull stud?
08:26 AM gregcnc: Pull stud is whatever you install, BT and ISO should both the M12
08:27 AM CNC_Brian: Ah didn't realise that.
08:27 AM PL7icnc: Loetmichel, Are You online
08:27 AM CNC_Brian: Good to know
08:28 AM CNC_Brian: Yes Im on line is that a company name?
08:28 AM PL7icnc: CNC_Brian, EQ Loetmichel
08:29 AM rmu: *lol*
08:29 AM gregcnc: uhm
08:30 AM PL7icnc: TO ALL in GERMANY we Got a Expo this weekend Berufsschule Rodalben Pfalz nähe Kaiserslautern
08:30 AM rmu: CNC_Brian: a lot depends on the VFD. usually you can feed VFDs with single phase, the VFD will generate 3 phases for the motor.
08:30 AM CNC_Brian: OK so the key is ordering the correct VFD.
08:30 AM PL7icnc: i am leaving Here
08:31 AM gregcnc: yes, it can be tricky over 2.2kW, make sure you read the specs correctly for 1P input
08:32 AM CNC_Brian: Thanks gregcnc. Having a look now.
08:33 AM gregcnc: You should be able to find 3.2kW 220V spindle
08:34 AM gregcnc: https://www.ebay.com/itm/192110192130
08:34 AM CNC_Brian: Yes found thatok
08:35 AM CNC_Brian: Going for this https://www.ebay.com/itm/1-5KW-3-2KW-5-5KW-7-5KW-Water-Cooled-ATC-Spindle-BT30-CNC-Router/153182289321?_trkparms=aid%3D111001%26algo%3DREC.SEED%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D20160908105057%26meid%3Da9f1f4b503d44b3f9fc670bb4d704002%26pid%3D100675%26rk%3D5%26rkt%3D15%26sd%3D192110192130%26itm%3D153182289321&_trksid=p2481888.c100675.m4236&_trkparms=pageci%3A95d90521-1e52-11e9-91cd-74dbd1806775%7Cparentrq%3A75fa530f1680aad500ed984cffe8ee3e%7Ciid%3A1
08:37 AM gregcnc: I would avoid a transformer, but it will work
08:38 AM CNC_Brian: I don't think you can get a 240V to 380V transformer are 380 is 3 phase. You would need a rotary convertor or some switching PSU
08:41 AM CNC_Brian: This VFD will do it but will have to order form China https://www.ebay.com/itm/4KW-5HP-400hz-VFD-inverter-frequency-converter-1PHASE-220V-to-3phase-0-380V-9A/173468308948?hash=item28638455d4:g:5RwAAOSw9gRaF9y8:rk:4:pf:0
08:42 AM gregcnc: ah, there are a few VFD which do that
08:43 AM CNC_Brian: You would just be waiting to smell the smoke
08:43 AM gregcnc: Usually in the US people ask for 120V to 240V, which they don't really to, most will only do 1.73X input V
08:45 AM CNC_Brian: Yes not too sure how the electronics would work, There would have to be some big ass switching convertor to supply 380V at 9A
08:46 AM gregcnc: It's just the rectifier to supply the DC bus
08:46 AM rmu: ISO20 = ISO30 ???
08:46 AM gregcnc: no
08:47 AM rmu: PL7icnc said the taper was the same
08:47 AM rmu: don't think so
08:47 AM gregcnc: BT30~ISO30
08:47 AM rmu: maybe the angle is the same
08:47 AM CNC_Brian: ISO30 == BT30 I got from the conversation
08:47 AM gregcnc: taper angle is
08:47 AM gregcnc: size is not
08:47 AM CNC_Brian: Just different pull stud
08:47 AM rmu: you mean BT30 = ISO 30 with different pull stud
08:47 AM CNC_Brian: BT also has lugs
08:48 AM rmu: yes
08:48 AM CNC_Brian: I will get a cheap tool holder and give it a try
08:49 AM CNC_Brian: Even if I just use it for twist drills / low torque tools
08:49 AM gregcnc: there are slight differences between BT and ISO
08:50 AM CNC_Brian: Just desperate
08:50 AM gregcnc: Both have lugs
08:50 AM gregcnc: some 30 taper router tooling doesn't use lugs
08:50 AM CNC_Brian: For ATC. Spending hours changing my MT3 tool holders over
08:51 AM CNC_Brian: Ive not seen ISO with lugs, but haven't look that much, guess it makes a tool changer more complicated also
08:52 AM gregcnc: you need spindle orientation to deal with lugs
08:53 AM CNC_Brian: Exactly. Im changing by hand, just wont have a drawbar to deal with will make it so much quicker
08:57 AM gregcnc: today I have to try to figure out what "thread not long enough" means on my Emco lathe
08:59 AM CNC_Brian: Is that an error form the controller?
09:00 AM gregcnc: yes
09:01 AM Loetmichel: maaan that PL7 guy is low on patience...
09:01 AM rmu: this https://www.ebay.de/itm/Werkzeugwechsler-Spindel-CNC-ATC-Spindle-Automatic-Tool-Change-1-5kw-2-2kw/302754631667 has a strange motor. finding an inverter for 800Hz may be difficult
09:01 AM CNC_Brian: I had something like that from LinuxCNC when tread milling.
09:01 AM CNC_Brian: Had to do with lead in lead out
09:02 AM gregcnc: I suspect it has to do with the thread leadout
09:02 AM CNC_Brian: Change the setting in fusion and then it was happy
09:03 AM gregcnc: never used it before, it probably doesnt' like a 1/2 rev leadout. it makes a few passes and stops
09:05 AM * Loetmichel only milled a thread once... but done the programming by hand...
09:06 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16631&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
09:06 AM Loetmichel: :-)
09:07 AM gregcnc: no air cutting test? just push the green button and pray...
09:07 AM CNC_Brian: Not with a 60 thread mill. Did about 10 air cuts
09:22 AM gregcnc: these are probably the bearings that end up in china spindles https://www.instagram.com/p/BsvYfn9hG8e/
09:23 AM CNC_Brian: They will be fine is a donkey cart wants ring with you :-)
09:30 AM gloops: they mainly use german bearings
09:50 AM gregcnc: Gloops "germany" bearings, made is some china town called "Germany"
09:55 AM CNC_Brian: I wouldn't put it past the Chinese to rename a town to try and get one over on us dum europeans
09:55 AM HighInBC: no you see they are germane bearings, as in relevant
09:56 AM gregcnc: real german P2 or P4 bearings often cost more than those 1.5-2.2kW spindles
09:58 AM gloops: chinese isnt a dirty word you know, i see a lot of reports of these cheap spindles putting in a lot of hours before they kaput
09:59 AM gregcnc: they have probably improved, "a lot" is relative
10:00 AM rmu: they did land on the backside of the moon
10:01 AM rmu: can't all be fake
10:01 AM gregcnc: if you think you are buying the same quality on alibaba.....
10:02 AM gloops: i dont think anyone really expects to get a spindle that costs 5k western made, for £150
10:02 AM gregcnc: but don't belive their ad copy either
10:02 AM gloops: but the cheap one can still be useable and good value for money
10:04 AM gloops: i see the chinese 'jeep' has been banned from US mainland, its so close to the real Jeep
10:05 AM gloops: they are learning, they buy factories here and let them run as they were, studying, assimilating technology and know how
10:05 AM CNC_Brian: If its only the bearing I guess I can just replace them with some better quality ones when they start to get noise
10:05 AM gloops: thats what Tata did with British Steel - theyve sold it now
10:06 AM CNC_Brian: I will probably only run uptown 10,000 as I cutting metal
10:06 AM gloops: CNC_Brian if you can get it apart lol
10:07 AM CNC_Brian: I will get it apart ok, may be scrap after I loose my temper though
10:08 AM gregcnc: you might have to regrind the taper
10:08 AM gloops: mines still working fine after a year, my main gripe is the totally crappy aviation plug, soldered it back about 4 times now
10:09 AM CNC_Brian: Do you think I should just delete the plug and solder the motor wires direct?
10:11 AM gloops: well, its handy to be able to unplug, solder the wires to the male part you can still unplug then, i found the junk connections arced out and pulled off with a bit of pressure, useless
10:12 AM gloops: or solder direct and just have some other quality connector a short distance away, see how it goes you might have a good one
10:13 AM CNC_Brian: Good plan. A bad connection may crash the VFD
10:14 AM rmu: not only crash, you could kill it
10:17 AM gloops: it hasnt done mine so far, just an error code which resets when you on/off, spindle either just stops or keeps running with erratic or low power - pain in the ass if youre in the middle of something
10:19 AM CNC_Brian: Better get some work don't thanks for thew advice guys!
10:21 AM gloops: have a nice day
10:25 AM ktchk2: nativecam embedded debian working ok but ubuntu does not anyone knows anything
10:45 AM nkp216_: http://www.motioncontroltips.com/wp-content/uploads/2013/11/servo-belt-linear-actuator.jpg
10:45 AM nkp216_: What type of belt will fit here?
10:54 AM gloops: t5, t10? might be worth checking some suppliers i think there are specific belts for driving belt to belt, although it will work with the ordinary stuff
10:54 AM zq__ is now known as zq
10:58 AM ktchk2: nativecam for linuxcnc does not work under ubuntu what's wrong?
11:01 AM foadsf: hey guys, I was wondering if you could help me with this issues: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1112000/linuxcnc-debian-wheezy-on-virtualbox-stuck-on-a-red-screen-with-a-blinking-cur
11:02 AM rmu: ktchk2: how did you install linuxcnc? is there any error msg?
11:03 AM ktchk2: rmu: linuxcnc works ok
11:03 AM foadsf: @ktchk2 I installed it on virtualbox, not error msg
11:04 AM foadsf: @ktchk2 can you take a look at this please: https://askubuntu.com/questions/1112000/linuxcnc-debian-wheezy-on-virtualbox-stuck-on-a-red-screen-with-a-blinking-cur
11:04 AM ktchk2: It is linuxcnc with ubuntu12.04 RTAI
11:04 AM foadsf: @ktchk2 so it is not debian?!
11:05 AM ktchk2: foadsf: Ubuntu
11:05 AM rmu: ktchk2: RTAI probably doesn't work in virtual box. would not make sense anyways even if it did boot
11:05 AM ktchk2: No nativecam is an addon CAM linked to linuxcnc
11:06 AM foadsf: @ktchk2 strange, because it says debian when booting. anyway why it does not make send? I use USB port. I can share usb with the guest
11:07 AM rmu: foadsf: linuxcnc needs hard realtime kernel. hard realtime kernel will not run in any virtual machine.
11:08 AM ktchk2: Linuxcnc works with debian https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/34892-installing-linuxcnc-on-debian-9
11:08 AM foadsf: @rmu but I need to run it on windows :( and I don't want to dualboot
11:09 AM ktchk2: No virtual machine aseperate hard disk or half a disk
11:11 AM Roguish: rmu: i think you are correct about RTAI not working in virtualBox. i tried it.
11:11 AM ktchk2: use a seperated hard disk and boot with F12 to select disk
11:11 AM Roguish: sim is cool, but not full realtime
11:12 AM foadsf: how about wsl windows subsystem for linux? can I get LinuxCNC there?
11:12 AM rmu: foadsf: tough luck. not possible
11:13 AM rmu: it doesn't make sense to run realtime os in virtual box, vmware or whatever
11:14 AM rmu: maybe it is possible to boot a rt preempt kernel in vbox, but it will not meet any latency guarantees
11:15 AM foadsf: ok guys, thanks for your help. I'm gonna go :( bye
11:16 AM rmu: ktchk2: if your unknown version of linuxcnc runs fine on your unknown version of ubuntu with unknown kernel version and unknown installation method and nativecam does not i fear it is not possible to help
11:16 AM ktchk2: nativecam ??
11:17 AM rmu: is that a question?
11:18 AM ktchk2: nativecam works fine under debian rt preempt kernel but ubuntu 12.04 RTAI kernel does not run embedded and no tool table
11:21 AM nkp216_: gloops , I think that the teeth of the belt and the hollow should be the same size.
11:25 AM gloops: well ive got some t5 here, if i press two together flat the teeth mesh fine, but when bending it all stiffens right up
11:25 AM gloops: i.e doesnt mesh on a curve - or only on a slight curve
11:26 AM gloops: but it wouldnt need to anyway
11:27 AM pcw_home: Unlikely nativecam not running is kernel related, more likely missing/wrong dependencies
11:27 AM ktchk2: stand alone mode works but enbedded mode does not
11:29 AM pcw_home: sounds like a version mismatch somewhere
11:29 AM gloops: for that belt drive id think of maybe a couple of follower rollers, the more belt that is pressed firmly together the lower risk of backlash, belt just laid on top of belt doesnt hold
11:30 AM gloops: although that has 8 teeth pressed down, probably enough
11:33 AM rmu: maybe path issue
11:33 AM Roguish: ktchk2: ubuntu is just not mainstream linuxcnc.
11:34 AM ktchk2: Ubuntu 10.04 12.04 RTAI is woring for linixcnc
11:34 AM ktchk2: which else have RTAI?
11:35 AM rmu: 18:00 < rmu> ktchk2: how did you install linuxcnc? is there any error msg?
11:36 AM pcw_home: Yeah path/linuxcnc environment difference could be it also
11:36 AM ktchk2: Use the ISO image from linixcnc.org to install kernel and linuxcnc
11:42 AM ktchk2: pcw_home: nativecam is nicely working under debian 9 rt preempt but my cpu is too slow for linuxcnc
11:43 AM ktchk2: ubuntu RTAI is faster with my cpu but nativecam does not go alone .
11:46 AM pcw_home: Likely something in the linuxCNC environment is not setup correctly for NativeCAM+Ubuntu maybe ask the NativeCAM developer on the LinuxCNC forum
11:48 AM ktchk2: ASked but he is the only one working on it
11:50 AM rmu: ktchk2: your configuration is identical?
11:51 AM ktchk2: the only installation method from nativecam
11:52 AM rmu: i mean your linuxcnc configuration
11:53 AM ktchk2: the ini file is a copy for nativecam
11:56 AM ktchk2: It is late have to go sleep
11:56 AM ktchk2: bye
11:57 AM rmu: bye
12:33 PM SpeedEvil is now known as Guest58322
02:19 PM gloops: all quiet on the western front
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04:00 PM Net|: 900 C and 1300 C to fuse titianium powder
04:12 PM foadsf: hey guys, I'm trying to find th users mailing list where I can open a discussion. Would be so kind to let me know where I can find it?
04:16 PM Rab: foadsf, I haven't used that, but maybe this is what you're looking for: https://sourceforge.net/projects/emc/lists/emc-users
04:16 PM Rab: More information here: http://linuxcnc.org/community/
04:17 PM BitEvil: XXCoder: manufacture for production.
04:18 PM BitEvil: If you can actually make your 100 ton thing out of SS, not CF, at 20* cheaper, that's a damn good place to be.
04:18 PM foadsf: @rab I have already subscribed to that, but I don't know how to send a message
05:15 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
05:39 PM jthornton: I have 11' of roost and all 8 hens are on one 4' section tonight and it's not even cold lol
05:40 PM Tom_itx: the ladies are having a pow wow
05:43 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
05:47 PM jthornton: they haven't done that in a while
05:54 PM Net|: https://youtu.be/tYIzMHwE-bk?t=491
07:00 PM alutard: Hello, uh, Got a ramps 1.4, Iwant to set myself up a miniature 5 axis cnc machine. This the channel to go?
07:03 PM Tom_L: we support linuxcnc not grbl
07:03 PM Tom_L: but some probably are familiar with grbl
07:03 PM Tom_L: you might be better off in #robotics
07:04 PM alutard: So, as I thought, LinuxCNC has nothing to do with ramps1.4 and the gang.
07:04 PM Tom_L: no not really but probably most of us are at least familiar with it
07:05 PM Tom_L: linuxcnc runs on a pc not an avr
07:05 PM alutard: Familiar or not, if LinuxCNC isn't targetted to work at ramps1.4 there's no point me opening my mouth, eh?
07:05 PM alutard: Reprap peoples told me to ask here, despite my better judgement.
07:05 PM Tom_L: talk to rue in robotics
07:05 PM Tom_L: he's scarce but will help
07:06 PM alutard: I'll look, thanks! Also, why don't all opensource people work together, why all these millions distros and shied? /flies away
07:07 PM Tom_L: you _can_ run grbl on it
07:07 PM alutard: Yeah but does GRBL support simultaneous 5 axis?
07:07 PM Tom_L: i have my doubts
07:07 PM Tom_L: i'm not that familiar with it
07:08 PM alutard: What I read is, no, 3 axis only, there's an abandoned 5/6 axis version of the project but half it's files are missing, like every damn fucking git project
07:57 PM Vitran: I know I am late to the party, but from one of the programmers I know of grbl, there isn't much more they can cram into the arduino. It is maxing out its processing power as is. They need a new chip with more power and more space.
07:58 PM Vitran: They did a complete overhaul of the grbl in fall 2017 to find if there were ways to make the code smaller to make it fit.
08:01 PM alutard: Vitran: thanks for the extra info; I found similar. Some dude made a 5/6 axis version though?
08:16 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I3lJWcRSlUA
08:17 PM alutard: flyback: Aaaand you just helped my pet project blossom
08:24 PM flyback: cool
09:46 PM MacGalempsy: hello
09:49 PM jesseg: howdy
11:19 PM MacGalempsy: making chips?
11:19 PM flyback: I still want to use msp430's
11:20 PM flyback: they have the lowest power of any mcu
11:20 PM flyback: but esp looks too much fun to pass up
11:21 PM MacGalempsy: hoping this 3d scanner I ordered works out well
11:56 PM TurBoss: MacGalempsy: wich one?=