#linuxcnc Logs

Dec 28 2018

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:43 AM MarcelineVQ: It would be a conspiracy if everyone you met just so happened to have fuses they wanted to sell you
01:59 AM renesis: fuses come from digikey, mouser and arror
02:00 AM Loetmichel: renesis: car fuses
02:00 AM renesis: they prob have a machine that shoots them into boxes from the other side of the warehouse
02:00 AM renesis: they have them
02:00 AM Loetmichel: those pesky little things with two knifes
02:01 AM Loetmichel: digikey and similar box shifting companys have a bit long delivery time when you dont want to drive "one-eyed"
02:01 AM renesis: https://www.digikey.com/product-detail/en/littelfuse-inc/0287015.PXCN/F4200-ND/2519816
02:02 AM renesis: youre supposed to keep the little extra fuse spaces filled up!
02:03 AM Loetmichel: i DO have a few 30A fuses in the cupholder... i am just wary to install them into a 15A slot that already blew 2 fuses... dont want to have a engine compartment fire
02:03 AM renesis: no!
02:04 AM renesis: just ram some wires in there
02:04 AM renesis: i trip out on fusible links
02:04 AM renesis: like, mechanically they seem fine, they just look so wrong
02:06 AM renesis: why does your car eat fuses
02:06 AM Loetmichel: thats the initial question ;)
02:07 AM renesis: are they are on separate fuses?
02:08 AM renesis: if yes, swap the bulb
02:08 AM renesis: like, left and right bulbs, swap them vice versa
02:09 AM renesis: if you blow other fuse, buy new bulb
02:09 AM renesis: if you blow same fuse, buy new car
02:10 AM Loetmichel: the (xenon HID) bulb IS new. replaced it last week because i thought it was the bulb, not the fse
02:10 AM Loetmichel: fuse
02:10 AM renesis: oh
02:10 AM renesis: is the other one old?
02:11 AM renesis: if they dont look exactly the same, i would swap anyway
02:11 AM Loetmichel: i think its either some damaged wire or a HID starter box gone bad
02:11 AM renesis: yeah
02:11 AM renesis: sell car
02:11 AM Loetmichel: and yes, the car is from 2003
02:11 AM renesis: maybe sell car
02:11 AM Loetmichel: so quite old
02:11 AM renesis: yeah but thats not like, hopeless electronics era
02:12 AM renesis: through mid 90s, some of that shit is like, might as well just redo the whole car
02:12 AM renesis: fuck the 80s
02:12 AM Loetmichel: i have to sell it anyways in february. will not pass the next road safety test... and its a diesel
02:13 AM renesis: sad car is sad
02:13 AM Loetmichel: (and germany now has a few citys where are no diesel CARS are allowed)
02:13 AM renesis: everyone mad at VW
02:14 AM renesis: they like FUCK YO RABBITS
02:14 AM Loetmichel: suspension is damaged. when i hit the brakes the steering wheel turns right ~20° or the car pulls to the left if you grip the wheel firmly
02:14 AM Loetmichel: that wouldnt fly with german "TUEV"
02:14 AM renesis: thats prob good
02:16 AM Loetmichel: that alone would be repairable. but in conjunction with the worn down tyres and the other small problems (and being a diesel) its just not worth it to repair it for the next "TUeV" due in february
02:17 AM Loetmichel: sad thing is that there is no similar big station wagon on the market to replace it
02:17 AM renesis: gotta buy a crossover
02:17 AM Loetmichel: even a 5 series BMW station wagon is about 4" smaller in any direction inside
02:18 AM renesis: bmw is a car you wear
02:18 AM Loetmichel: than the Opel Omega i drive now. (i think that was sold as a cadillac catera in the US, although not as a station wagon)
02:21 AM Loetmichel: i really like that car. https://www.spritmonitor.de/en/detail/442560.html
02:22 AM Loetmichel: ... only car i know that fits a washing machine upright in the "trunk" and can still drive 130mph++ with 1,4 tons of machinery in the back :-)
02:23 AM CaptHindsight: $34 x86 board with cpu http://linuxgizmos.com/intel-cherry-trail-based-hacker-board-launches-for-34/
02:23 AM CaptHindsight: TTL serial debug up to 3.6Mbps, have to see how they connected this port
02:24 AM CaptHindsight: 26-pin header for power and GPIO,, how fast can the GPIO be toggled?
02:25 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/323002773/atomic-pi-a-high-power-alternative-to-rpi/description
02:34 AM Loetmichel: renesis: what do you mean by "wear"?
02:35 AM CaptHindsight: if the BIOS supports the GPIO then this board can software step at 1.8V
02:36 AM CaptHindsight: just needs a level shifter and isolation
02:38 AM Deejay: moin
02:40 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.digital-loggers.com/api.html
02:42 AM renesis: loetmichel: drivers car, more emphasis on driver ergonomics and chassis stiffness than interior space
02:45 AM Loetmichel: 5 series BMW station wagon IS big for euroean measures... still the omega is bigger ;)
02:45 AM Loetmichel: ... btw: it has a BMW engine and (automatic)gearbox
02:45 AM renesis: neat
02:45 AM Loetmichel: the omega is even a bit bigger than an E-class mercedes station wagon ;)
02:47 AM gloops: Sky News
02:47 AM gloops: ‏Verified account @SkyNews
02:47 AM gloops: 16h16 hours ago
02:47 AM gloops: Russia says new missile flies at 27 times the speed of sound and renders all defences useless
02:51 AM gloops: shame, we'd just got iron dome working as well!
02:52 AM CaptHindsight: but...
02:52 AM CaptHindsight: it's made of diamond so they only could afford to make 1
02:53 AM CaptHindsight: lets see mach 27
02:54 AM gloops: "But that design increases the risk of it disintegrating and it loses accuracy.
02:54 AM gloops: "These systems add nothing to the Russian nuclear deterrent."
02:54 AM rmu: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Supersonic_Low_Altitude_Missile
02:55 AM CaptHindsight: 20.7K mph
02:55 AM gloops: what you need is a batch missile, that approaches as a group, 5 dummies, 1 carrying the warhead
02:55 AM Deejay: will it melt?
02:56 AM gloops: no its teflon coated
02:56 AM Deejay: hm k
02:56 AM CaptHindsight: what happens after the teflon burns away?
02:57 AM Deejay: the missile is already detonated to that time ;)
02:57 AM gloops: it will take an awful lot of scrubbing to get fried egg off it
02:57 AM Loetmichel: at mach 27 teflon will not help. the tip will be red hot
02:57 AM Loetmichel: teflon burns up at ~400++ deg C
02:58 AM CaptHindsight: Mach 10 (7000 mph) speed will be in the neighborhood of 3600 degrees,
02:58 AM Deejay: hmm, need inconel
02:58 AM CaptHindsight: F
02:58 AM Loetmichel: s/red hot/white hot
02:58 AM Loetmichel: :-)
02:59 AM gloops: why dont things re-entering slipstream something else
02:59 AM gloops: would cut down the friction
03:00 AM CaptHindsight: so the story is another big fat Russian lie!
03:00 AM gloops: a bit like star wars
03:01 AM CaptHindsight: looks like that $34 x86 board only has 6 GPIO
03:01 AM CaptHindsight: so maybe 3 Step/Dir's
03:01 AM CaptHindsight: figures
03:02 AM CaptHindsight: the serial debug port with a $1 fpga might be the answer
03:09 AM veek: oh yep
03:11 AM gloops: my next cnc job is to replace nema 23s with 34s, already got the motors
03:12 AM gloops: but the drivers and 25mm pulleys and belts will cost around £100 or so
03:13 AM gloops: £130-40
03:15 AM gloops: however, that does free up nema 23s and drivers etc for another machine, so no cost at all really
04:37 AM Loetmichel: GNHIHI... after the steam explosion a few weeks ago the coworker bought a new mokka pot... THAT should be sufficient for all the workers here... AND has a fresh thread, so no danger of another *POP* in the coffee kitchen with subsequent cleaning... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17265&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
04:38 AM Loetmichel: ... 1.2 liters espresso... ought to be enough for half a dozen workers ;)
04:39 AM XXCoder: tea time
04:56 AM jthornton: morning
04:56 AM XXCoder: hey jthornton today was boring till end of day
04:56 AM XXCoder: found out my rear tiny window in car was shattered
04:57 AM jthornton: what broke it?
04:57 AM XXCoder: shape of impact is weird so dunno
04:57 AM XXCoder: looks like hit with screwdriver or something
04:57 AM XXCoder: or maybe tiny rock or bb gun
04:57 AM XXCoder: note here is NOT redneck area so dunno
05:05 AM Tom_L: morning
05:05 AM XXCoder: hey
05:06 AM Tom_L: 24F, Hi 32, Lo 17 with broken clouds
05:06 AM XXCoder: fun
05:06 AM XXCoder: wow monday might be 30f here
05:07 AM XXCoder: and no wonder, its ater 2 days of clear days
05:07 AM XXCoder: wow after sunday looks like no rain for few days
05:07 AM XXCoder: not normal for here
06:09 AM Spida: rene_dev_: are you at 35c3?
07:38 AM fragalot: oh lord i'm back in 1992
07:39 AM fragalot: downloading a 4.5MB printer driver, and it's ETA is 20 days, 4 hours, and 32 minutes.
07:40 AM XXCoder: not 90s unless time is getting longer as download progresses.
07:40 AM fragalot: give it some time, lol
07:40 AM XXCoder: havent seen microsoft time for while now
07:40 AM XXCoder: predictions is pretty good
07:40 AM tehnull: not 90s if one of your sisters friends doesn't call and boot you
07:41 AM jthornton: I just had a flash vision after watching some videos about sheet goods racks and for a guy with a pallet jack mine will be movable with the pallet jack
07:42 AM jthornton: one guy used EMT to make adjustable width areas in his rack... still pondering that
07:43 AM fragalot: EMT?
07:44 AM fragalot: XXCoder: 31 days!
07:44 AM jthornton: Electric Metallic Tube
07:44 AM jthornton: conduit
07:44 AM fragalot: isn't that stuff really flimsy?
07:45 AM XXCoder: fragalot: congats! you got microsoft time!
07:45 AM jthornton: no, it can be bent but it's pretty stiff
07:45 AM * jthornton has bent miles of it in his life
07:45 AM fragalot: stiff, sure.. but for a rack?
07:45 AM jthornton: just for dividers
07:46 AM Loetmichel: i have seen some using 1" black (water) pipe... EMT would be a bit thin imho
07:46 AM Loetmichel: galvanized steel water pipe, sorry, not black pipe
07:46 AM jthornton: not for dividers...
07:46 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OXPtHlldQqo
07:48 AM * jthornton goes to start a fire
07:48 AM fragalot: rebar. :P
07:48 AM Loetmichel: ah, like that? -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17095&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
07:48 AM fragalot: even for dividers, if they are that length i'd still not feel "right" using that
07:48 AM XXCoder: if you live near place thats being broken down can get free rebar though probbaly need to strighten
07:49 AM Loetmichel: just a bit of shipping box plywood though
07:53 AM gloops: https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-mad-world-of-theresa-may-has-lured-the-eu-into-a-trap/5663424
07:53 AM gloops: well i did say so...
07:54 AM XXCoder: lots appeals to emotions.
07:55 AM gloops: they should have known when May delayed every single step in the process
07:56 AM gloops: we are now literally in the last couple of months and no deal has been voted on
07:56 AM Loetmichel: i dont see the trap there.
07:56 AM fragalot: me neither
07:56 AM Loetmichel: for the europeans i mean
07:57 AM gloops: UK to leave with no deal
07:57 AM Loetmichel: only a debacle for the brits
07:57 AM gloops: no 39 billion for the EU for one thing
07:58 AM veek: gloops, yeah but that's only needed if debts need to be paid
07:58 AM gloops: the act itself will send tremors round world stock markets - eu banking very fragile indeed
07:58 AM gloops: veek the eu has many pressing debts
07:58 AM veek: china might lend?
07:58 AM gloops: china needs to borrow for itself right now
07:58 AM veek: who holds those debts?
07:58 AM XXCoder: money always has threads on it
07:59 AM veek: gloops, only internally
07:59 AM fragalot: every country has debts. having debt used to be a strategic "good thing"
07:59 AM fragalot: as a country
07:59 AM gloops: veek the bundersbank
07:59 AM veek: gloops ah that's internal debts
07:59 AM gloops: also UK and USA
07:59 AM fragalot: XXCoder: this printer dirver doesn't work >.>
08:00 AM veek: right so as far as UK/US debt .. the chinese could buy it
08:00 AM XXCoder: wow its feb already? I havent slept since I returned home from post-xmas work day
08:00 AM gloops: veek the EU is like a house of cards right now
08:00 AM XXCoder: no wonder I feel like I havent slept for 40 days
08:01 AM veek: gloops, i agree but for the derivatives trade to unwind there has to be a default.. which basically means a lack of lenders
08:01 AM gloops: if italy defaults there is no bailout
08:02 AM veek: yeah but again italian debt coming due could be guaranteed by someone else/china.. the real worry is the possibility of war rather than debt default
08:03 AM gloops: obviously all these shtf scenarioscan be avoided - by granting a swift and generous trade deal with the UK
08:03 AM Loetmichel: gloops: debt itself isnt a problem. it becomes a problem when you cant service it any more and have to default
08:04 AM Loetmichel: because you will not get new lends then
08:04 AM Loetmichel: as a country
08:05 AM veek: it depends on the next american elections i guess
08:05 AM fragalot: one of the reasons you would not get a loan would be if you .. y'know.. intentionally withheld 39BN of open invoices
08:05 AM gloops: well, the germans have dealt with smaller defaults like Greece, - Greece did default it just wasnt called a default, but they cant cover much more now - supposing germany defaults to outside lenders, what then
08:06 AM gloops: fragalot those were IOUs pledged on the event of securing a trade deal - no such deal has been agreed
08:06 AM veek: gloops, ah but who is the outside lender?
08:07 AM veek: ultimately the players are the eurozone and US, UK, China, Japan (mostly)
08:07 AM veek: so ultimately it's an arrangement between the US/UK and China
08:07 AM fragalot: does anyone know where I can find a printer driver for a samsung C480W Xpress?
08:09 AM gloops: samsung?
08:09 AM gloops: https://samsung-printerdrivers.com/samsung-xpress-c480w-printer-drivers/
08:09 AM fragalot: I tried most of those, they fail to install
08:11 AM gloops: probably the same ones on third party sites https://www.fullinstaller.com/samsung-c480w-driver-download-free/
08:15 AM fragalot_: finally seem to have found a copy that works
08:15 AM fragalot_: but it took 3 attempts >.>
08:16 AM fragalot_: this is why i hate "no you can't tell me the model and IP address I want to find it on my own" drivers
08:22 AM gloops: i found mint seem to find 'a' driver for most things i plugged in
08:30 AM Sabotend_ is now known as Sabotender
10:28 AM fragalot_: miss0r2: found you another beauty. https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/323625528141?ul_noapp=true
10:30 AM fragalot_: miss0r2: pristine condition. i'm sure it's only been used once or twice to scrape in a small gib or 2. motor that is nowhere near being obsolete, parts can easily be sourced, and it uses a sane voltage.
10:33 AM gloops: 250 for that?
10:33 AM fragalot_: not an abnormal asking price
10:34 AM fragalot_: but that particular one would get a hard pass from me
10:37 AM gloops: thing with those, they arent an everyday diy tool, sellers know there are people who are looking and cant wait too long
10:38 AM fragalot_: yup. and new ones cost about the same as a black market kidney
10:40 AM fragalot_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w1XPDzunbY0 <=== I have to say, this is _THE_ best series on welding distrotion that I've ever seen
12:56 PM gloops: hmm, these 5w lasers are only £85 https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/5W-Laser-Head-Engraver-Engraving-Module-For-Wood-Marking-Wood-Cutting-with-TTL/323583534556?
01:24 PM syyl_: haha fragalot_
01:24 PM syyl_: that guy
01:24 PM syyl_: good friend of mine
01:24 PM syyl_: he is the weirdest engineer i ever met
01:24 PM syyl_: way to clever AND a stinkn good machinist
02:15 PM miss0r2: fragalot_: That thing looks quite tired :)
02:34 PM fragalot_: syyl_: I found him looking for machine rebuilding videos.. his mill looked quite tasty when he was done
02:37 PM syyl_: yep :D
02:37 PM syyl_: love his vakuum-brazed central-lubrication-distributor
02:38 PM fragalot_: completely over-engineered.. just the way I like it
02:40 PM fragalot_: what's also fun is that if he wouldn't have video'd and shared it.... nobody would know.
02:40 PM syyl_: haha yes
02:40 PM syyl_: he lives not to far from me
02:40 PM syyl_: but we get around to meet only about once a year, haha
02:41 PM fragalot_: :-)
02:42 PM fragalot_: I just used your radius grinding tip today actually
02:42 PM fragalot_: not sure why it never occurred to me to do it that way >.>
02:43 PM syyl_: :D
02:44 PM fragalot_: just came back from fixing someone's collection of snow machines.. they gave me a cupcake after I was done rebuilding around 6 pumps
02:44 PM fragalot_: that tiny thing was a full meal >.<
02:44 PM fragalot_: like eating a stick of butter
02:44 PM syyl_: lol :D
02:57 PM JT-Shop2: snow making machines?
03:00 PM gloops: sounds like some kind of performer
03:07 PM fragalot_: JT-Shop2: yeah
03:07 PM fragalot_: gloops: kinda. event organizer / insane entrepenour is a better description
03:19 PM JT-Shop: lol
03:49 PM The_Ball: How do people manage changing gears? I have a electromagnetically operated hi/low gear
03:49 PM The_Ball: I can't see a M/G code for it
03:51 PM The_Ball: M41/M42 is not implemented in LinuxCNC, should I remap and use it?
03:51 PM fragalot_: you could, but I think there is a way to have linuxCNC do it automatically depending ont he spindle speed you request
03:51 PM The_Ball: Or do people automatically select depending on the currently selected S
03:52 PM The_Ball: The issue I see with auto is in an operation where the speed changes I need to have the spindle slow down to <100RPM before switching gears
03:56 PM fragalot_: should be possible I think
03:56 PM fragalot_: https://github.com/jin-eld/mh400e-linuxcnc/wiki/MH400E-Gearbox--Description <-- perhaps this can be of some help?
03:59 PM Rab: Ugh, McMaster-Carr order damaged in transit...UPS opened the box and all the stock fell out.
04:00 PM Rab: While talking to customer service I realized they had collected TX sales tax on the order, pursuant to the Supreme Court decision in October.
04:01 PM pcw_mesa: Its been tenderized...
04:02 PM Rab: So re-sending the order got put on hold for my reseller tax cert, and from there it was fun and games with scanner support in Linux.
04:02 PM Rab: Hopefully McMaster can make some sense of these issues.
04:02 PM fragalot_: do it like a man and take a picture of it on your phone, preferably with the paper on the floor, showing your bare feet if possible
04:04 PM Rab: Shiny object in the picture, in case just the feet doesn't satisfy?
04:04 PM fragalot_: only if you're shirtless
04:06 PM The_Ball: fragalot_, that's a hefty gearbox!
04:07 PM fragalot_: The_Ball: Yea...... but it's the only good worked out & documented example I know of :-)
04:08 PM gloops: you shouldnt really post pics of the interior of your house, thats how they caught Dahlmer
04:08 PM fragalot_: who?
04:08 PM gloops: Geoffery Dahlmer
04:09 PM fragalot_: doesn't ring a bell
04:09 PM syyl_: i dont think fragalot_ is a serialkiller
04:09 PM gloops: oh he was a serial killer in the USA
04:09 PM fragalot_: syyl_: yeah, what are the chances of BOTH of us being one ey?
04:10 PM syyl_: :D
04:10 PM gloops: the cop walked into his house for nothing serious, noticed some photos scattered around of body parts, still didnt think anything of it until he realised the background in the photos was the room he was standing in
04:13 PM * The_Ball get's chills
04:13 PM syyl_: "just photos of body parts, nothing to be suspicious off"
04:13 PM gloops: well, nobody had any idea he had killed 20 people
04:14 PM gloops: could have been some photos out of a magazine or something
04:14 PM gloops: they found a head in the fridge etc
04:15 PM syyl_: THAT would make me suspicious
04:15 PM syyl_: speaking of making
04:15 PM fragalot_: lol
04:15 PM syyl_: http://gtwr.de/div/stepperdrive_6.jpg
04:15 PM fragalot_: Smooth plug
04:15 PM syyl_: got tired of indexing by hand
04:15 PM fragalot_: oh, speaking of indexing
04:15 PM syyl_: http://gtwr.de/div/stepperdrive_4.jpg
04:16 PM fragalot_: do you still use your electronic leadscrew on the lathe?
04:16 PM syyl_: yes
04:16 PM fragalot_: happy with it?
04:16 PM syyl_: yes :D
04:16 PM syyl_: very
04:16 PM fragalot_: care to link me to the vendor? :P
04:16 PM syyl_: https://www.rocketronics.de/
04:16 PM syyl_: sure - but i am not sure if there is anything in english availible
04:17 PM fragalot_: german is fine for me
04:17 PM syyl_: :)
04:18 PM Tom_L: so because of the lack of snow around here this year the city has declared a snow day and hired a vendor to come in and make snow on a hill
04:18 PM Tom_L: personally i'm fine without it
04:19 PM fragalot_: what a peculiar problem to have
04:19 PM Tom_L: :)
04:19 PM Tom_L: week after they do it we'll get a blizzard
04:19 PM SpeedEvil: Your tax dollars at work.
04:22 PM fragalot_: syyl_: i'm disappointed you're not using actual wire wrap methods on that board :P
04:22 PM syyl_: haha, this was already annoying enough :D
04:22 PM fragalot_: :-)
04:25 PM fragalot_: syyl_: did you get both X and Z axis or just the Z?
04:25 PM syyl_: only z
04:25 PM syyl_: not precise enough in x
04:25 PM syyl_: without feedback from the linear scales
04:26 PM fragalot_: pfft, my X is perfectly accurately off by ~4% if you go by the marks on the handle
04:26 PM syyl_: :D
04:26 PM fragalot_: i'm pretty sure it's an imperial leadscrew & they just said "close enough" and marked it in metric
04:26 PM syyl_: customers dont appreciate 4% of diametrical error ;)
04:27 PM syyl_: thats common
04:27 PM fragalot_: what motor did you get for yours? (i'm not sure how much torque is required)
04:28 PM syyl_: i got the full kit
04:28 PM syyl_: with the 4A stepper
04:28 PM syyl_: and the leadshine driver
04:28 PM fragalot_: they don't have a 1 axis kit anymore, now you need to configure it yourself.
04:29 PM syyl_: hmpf
04:30 PM syyl_: i think its this motor
04:30 PM syyl_: https://www.sorotec.de/shop/Stepping-Motor-4-2A-Bipolar-3-NM-DS-Nanotec.html
04:30 PM fragalot_: 3Nm. cool, thanks
04:31 PM syyl_: and a ND556 leadshine
04:31 PM syyl_: all running on a 48V meanwell psu
04:34 PM fragalot_: bye bye change gears! :D
04:34 PM syyl_: funny enough
04:34 PM syyl_: i probably buy a new lathe next year
04:35 PM syyl_: and i will not put the els on it again
04:35 PM fragalot_: because the new lathe will not have the irritating change gear system that your current one has?
04:35 PM syyl_: ha, yes
04:35 PM syyl_: probably
04:35 PM syyl_: not sure yet what to buy
04:35 PM fragalot_: my gripe with it now is that I'll try to avoid having to change the gears far too much
04:35 PM syyl_: but i am 99% locked on a weiler primus
04:37 PM fragalot_: looks like the perfect size for a hobby shop with limited space
04:37 PM syyl_: yes
04:37 PM syyl_: :D
04:37 PM syyl_: and i want a more solid machine - with a collet taper in the spindle
04:39 PM fragalot_: can't say I disagree
04:40 PM fragalot_: the current one (250x550) is.. alright. if you know how to baby it just right.
04:40 PM syyl_: i wouldnt mind a hardinge hlvl
04:40 PM fragalot_: and are aware that the bed appears to warp with the seasons
04:40 PM syyl_: but they are rare
04:41 PM fragalot_: do you have any pictures of your ELS installation
04:41 PM syyl_: i sure have
04:41 PM Tom_L: several on ebay for 16k and up :D
04:41 PM syyl_: http://gtwr.de/german/werkstatt/pro_mykrodreh/els2.html
04:41 PM syyl_: sorry, again only german :D
04:42 PM fragalot_: again - not a problem :-)
04:42 PM syyl_: :)
04:42 PM syyl_: bottom of the page, singlepointed a m2 thread
04:42 PM syyl_: :D
04:42 PM fragalot_: oh yours had a small gearbox to begin with
04:42 PM syyl_: yes
04:43 PM syyl_: with idiotic gear-ratios
04:43 PM fragalot_: hehe
04:43 PM syyl_: was basicaly useless
04:43 PM fragalot_: I went to a local machine rebuilder to see if they had a decent mill in stock before I bought the schaublin
04:43 PM fragalot_: they just got in a new batch of machines they custom ordered in taiwan, but there were some "lost in translation" issues
04:43 PM syyl_: lol
04:43 PM fragalot_: the 2 speed motor they requested, was just 1 speed.. and the gearbox was set up for a 2 speed motor
04:44 PM fragalot_: except.. if you use a 2 speed motor, both gearbox ranges overlapped each-other perfectly
04:44 PM fragalot_: (and they had 25 units sitting there... needing a complete re-engineering of the gearboxes :P)
04:46 PM gloops: not much on ebay atm
04:46 PM gloops: its a bad time of the year for lathe buying id say
04:46 PM fragalot_: syyl_: that M2 thread is impressive... except ti looks like the crown of the thread is thicker at the end?
04:46 PM syyl_: it probably deflected
04:49 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Chester-1236-Gap-Bed-Lathe-Metalwork-Machine-Colchester-Harrison-Copy-Engineer/382699340998?
04:49 PM syyl_: looks like a generic taiwanese/chinese machine of that size
04:50 PM syyl_: the compound on these is the most stupid construction
04:50 PM fragalot_: at least you can access the bolts to change the angle without having to unscrew it all the way
04:50 PM syyl_: lol
04:50 PM gloops: the harrison is ok, i used one years ago, that is a copy
04:50 PM fragalot_: (this is the case on the big lathe at work)
04:51 PM syyl_: thats also the case with 7x12 minilathes
04:51 PM syyl_: :D
04:51 PM fragalot_: I know it is due to size constraints on the tiny ones
04:51 PM fragalot_: but on that large behemoth there is really no excuse :D
04:53 PM gloops: real harrison https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Harrison-Metal-Working-Lathe/113495688168?
04:54 PM gloops: built to last...
04:54 PM fragalot_: looks like the gap part of the bed might be missing
04:54 PM gloops: isnt that the...gap?
04:54 PM fragalot_: the only real downside to older lathes that I've found is that the bore on them is so tiny
04:55 PM fragalot_: gloops: yeah, but you're supposed to have a piece to go in there for when you don't need the gap itself
04:55 PM gloops: thats stuck in a garage and doesnt look well loved
04:56 PM gloops: still you never know, be alright if you could view these machines first
05:00 PM fragalot_: yeah...
05:00 PM fragalot_: still - all you need to do is ask & set up a date
05:03 PM gloops: bridgeport still cheap https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Bridgeport-Milling-Machine-Series-1/113495669474?
05:03 PM syyl_: thats only part of a bridgeport :D
05:03 PM gloops: saw one with archivist go for 300 - he wasnt amused when i wouldnt pick it up lol
05:04 PM syyl_: somebody nailed the bp head onto an horizontal mill
05:04 PM fragalot_: yea.. that is not a bridgeport
05:05 PM gloops: difficult to say with all the clutter
05:05 PM fragalot_: quite easy to spot, actually
05:05 PM fragalot_: bridgeports have that typical large round column part to the base to swivel on
05:05 PM fragalot_: this one does not
05:05 PM fragalot_: bridgeports typically don't have a horizontal spindle
05:05 PM fragalot_: this one does
05:07 PM fragalot_: the way that that bridgeport head is fixed to the mill is great though
05:08 PM fragalot_: 'buyer must arrange removal' <-- am I the only one that reads this as "it's in a really awkward spot"
05:08 PM syyl_: he could add
05:08 PM syyl_: "good luck."
05:08 PM fragalot_: only in verbal communication :D
05:09 PM syyl_: "hey i am here to pick up that mill"
05:09 PM gloops: i think andypugh did that - put vertical head on horizontal
05:09 PM syyl_: -"yeah, its down that narrow staircase. good luck"
05:09 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mark-Ace-Vertical-Milling-Machine-Model-maker-Hobby-Single-Phase/153313595743?
05:09 PM gloops: well he got it in, its got to come out
05:10 PM syyl_: haha
05:10 PM syyl_: friend of mine digged a hole next to the house
05:10 PM fragalot_: syyl_: behind the 3 stripped car chassis, just over the lathe, and those scrap bins.
05:10 PM syyl_: broke trough the wall
05:10 PM syyl_: put in two deckel Cnc mills
05:10 PM syyl_: rebuilt the wall and filled up the hole
05:10 PM syyl_: :D
05:10 PM fragalot_: friend of mine has just removed his roof to put in a new Style mill.. and then built a little mini tower on top because it's too tall
05:11 PM syyl_: lo
05:11 PM syyl_: l
05:11 PM fragalot_: his workshop is really awkward
05:11 PM fragalot_: he's got TONS of absolutely beautiful machines
05:11 PM fragalot_: but they are all lined up, because the shop is only 5m wide, but 120m long
05:11 PM fragalot_: and there is only a garage port on one end of it
05:11 PM syyl_: haha
05:11 PM syyl_: i would prefer that layout
05:12 PM fragalot_: you would until you need to get the machine at the end out :D
05:12 PM syyl_: better do your planing properly ;)
05:12 PM fragalot_: it's worked for him for nearly 50 years, so.... :-)
05:12 PM fragalot_: hence probably why he's opted to remove the roof, lol
05:13 PM XXCoder: fragalot_: solved printer issue?
05:14 PM fragalot_: XXCoder: eventually, yes
05:14 PM XXCoder: nice :)
05:14 PM fragalot_: just had to try the same driver ~14 times before it 'found the printer'
05:14 PM XXCoder: bleh
05:14 PM XXCoder: drivers need glasses ;)
05:14 PM fragalot_: what I really like
05:14 PM fragalot_: is how the manufacturers' website first makes you find the exact model
05:15 PM fragalot_: which takes around 50 mouse clicks
05:15 PM fragalot_: and then gives you a generic auto-detect driver
05:17 PM XXCoder: so much fun
05:18 PM XXCoder: some support ui looks like its designed to test human ability and patienc3e
05:19 PM fragalot_: worst part was that at one point, the driver found the printer, showe it to me and said "I don't know this model."
05:20 PM fragalot_: well it said "can't detect this model"
05:34 PM Deejay: gn8
07:53 PM _unreal_: finally... just finished laying up the firs round of fiberglass
07:54 PM _unreal_: on half of my mold for my cnc machine RPI/LCD controller box
07:54 PM _unreal_: made a splash mold to make a mold so I canfinally make the part... right now I'm making the mold off of the splash mold
07:59 PM norias: anyone ever stick acclerometers on their cnc?
08:08 PM Tom_L: norias for what purpose?
08:08 PM norias: monitor vibrations
08:09 PM Tom_L: not something i've heard of around here
08:09 PM Tom_L: err, not aware of anyone doing that
08:09 PM norias: right on
08:11 PM norias: reading some research on it right now
08:11 PM norias: it's interesting
08:13 PM norias: oh.....
08:13 PM norias: they aren't doing what i think they are
08:13 PM norias: they used accelerometers to measure flex in the frame
08:13 PM norias: then used that in a feedback loop in the positioning system
08:14 PM norias: oh, now, that's interesting
08:15 PM Tom_L: you'd have to know where and how to apply it
08:15 PM norias: right