#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 28 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:00 AM XXCoder: https://memegenerator.net/img/instances/65149921/slow-down-its-only-october.jpg
12:26 AM laminae_: Hey dudes, optic limit switch issue
12:26 AM laminae_: Using parker stages which have built in optical limit switches
12:27 AM laminae_: I can confirm the switches work on ccw limit, cw and home
12:27 AM laminae_: Running off 7i76e 5v and ground (using multimeter)
12:28 AM laminae_: I connected to pin #11 on tb6 and went through the configurator under i/for tb 6, tried both normally high and normally low pins
12:29 AM laminae_: but i can't get lcnc to trigger when i click home axis
12:29 AM laminae_: I tried a number of diferent i/o pins and both the ccw and cw pins to no avail
12:30 AM laminae_: the normally high drops from 3.3 to .06 on switch and the normally low goes from .03 to 4.8v when triggered
12:55 AM laminae_: Reading documentation, limit switches are intended to use 24, is there a work around for this?
12:56 AM XXCoder: does it show as range?
12:56 AM XXCoder: sometimes sensor can have pretty surpising wide range of volt
12:56 AM XXCoder: for example 10-28
01:00 AM laminae_: so, minimum is 14v x.x
01:01 AM laminae_: i found one suggestion for using the three encoder pins
01:01 AM laminae_: i guess i could take just limits but that still sucks
01:21 AM laminae_: Looks like i can use the expansion connectors but i don't see a indicator pin for pin 1
01:22 AM laminae_: Looking at this if anyone has suggestions https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/35201-7i76e-5v-home-limit-switch-sensing
02:24 AM TurBoss: morning
02:24 AM XXCoder: yo
02:24 AM TurBoss: hello XXCoder!
02:24 AM XXCoder: whats up
02:24 AM TurBoss: the other day a friend showed me that you can grab 3d models from thingiverser
02:25 AM TurBoss: and xD I showd him the space ship from that game
02:25 AM TurBoss: 🕵
02:26 AM TurBoss: I have a question
02:26 AM TurBoss: someone here using stretch image from linuxcnc and buildbot version?
02:26 AM TurBoss: I can run the Linuxcnc example program
02:26 AM TurBoss: gcode
02:26 AM TurBoss: but not many others
02:26 AM TurBoss: I just press run and nothing happends
02:27 AM XXCoder: stretch image?
02:27 AM TurBoss: debian 9
02:27 AM TurBoss: http://www.linuxcnc.org/testing-stretch-rtpreempt/
02:29 AM Deejay: moin
02:29 AM TurBoss: hi
02:33 AM Deejay: hi Turbo ;)
02:33 AM XXCoder: ahh hmm did you "e-stop off" then "power on" machine?
02:34 AM TurBoss: yes
02:34 AM Deejay: hi xxcoder
02:34 AM TurBoss: sek
02:34 AM TurBoss: I'll make a vid
02:34 AM XXCoder: did you set part zero?
02:36 AM * TurBoss uploaded a video: Peek 28-10-2018 08-34.webm (340KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/nfqxzYUAlbsmzMaAKHmvJBPu >
02:38 AM XXCoder: was it homed?
02:38 AM TurBoss: yes
02:38 AM XXCoder: ok making sure
02:38 AM TurBoss: first program runs
02:38 AM XXCoder: strange that second doesnt
02:38 AM TurBoss: looks like a master bug
02:39 AM XXCoder: look around see if ANY of pathways go outside red box
02:39 AM TurBoss: it notifies if path goes outside
02:39 AM TurBoss: before run
02:40 AM TurBoss: :S
02:43 AM XXCoder: yeah. I wonder if its refusing because you didnt change part coord between programs
02:43 AM TurBoss: checking
02:43 AM XXCoder: safety, as valid coord for one part may mean nasty impact on other
04:04 AM laminae_: After much tinkering, it is possible to the expansion port for low voltage limit switches
04:28 AM XXCoder: TurBoss: any luck?
04:28 AM TurBoss: nope
04:34 AM jthornton: morning
04:36 AM XXCoder: hey jt maybe you know
04:36 AM XXCoder: he can run a program, but cant run next one
04:36 AM XXCoder: weird
04:38 AM jthornton: TurBoss: run linuxcnc from a terminal then try, some errors are no longer able to be reported due to kernel hardening by debian the dumb asses
04:43 AM TurBoss: ok
04:44 AM TurBoss: jthornton: nothing shown in terminal
04:45 AM TurBoss: afk 20 min
04:47 AM jthornton: afk?
04:47 AM trentster: Loetmichel: Btw I used your speeds and feeds for Aluminium and it worked beautifully. Thanks for the tips yesterday. :-)
04:47 AM XXCoder: away from keyboard
04:48 AM jthornton: ah thanks
04:48 AM XXCoder: I wonder if turboss went whole test, run program, load another and try to run
04:48 AM jthornton: anyhow the chicken door sensors work now to start combining the code
04:49 AM XXCoder: nice
05:26 AM laminae_: Heh after all this, the home switch isn't working in the x axis assembly x.x
05:28 AM laminae_: I do have a few other optical stages perhaps i might be able to cann from
06:01 AM Tom_L: does linux support pcie ethernet cards?
06:01 AM jthornton: same as pci cards
06:02 AM Tom_L: swapped a MB and it has no pci slots
06:02 AM SpeedEvil: Yes.
06:02 AM jthornton: Tom_L: I'm installing windblows 7 on a hard drive from your first link yesterday
06:02 AM Tom_L: good news
06:03 AM XXCoder: you finally downloaded the win 7 iso eh
06:03 AM jthornton: so far it has not asked me for the serial number lol
06:03 AM XXCoder: it wont for while
06:03 AM Tom_L: it will eventually
06:03 AM XXCoder: is it a upgrade iso file?
06:04 AM XXCoder: if so, leave serial # blank, finish configuring it
06:04 AM XXCoder: then reboot and upgrade your windows 7 to windows 7
06:04 AM jthornton: no, it had two options upgrade or new install so both
06:04 AM XXCoder: second time use your serial
06:05 AM jthornton: why is that?
06:05 AM XXCoder: well apparently some serial numbers is upgrade only
06:05 AM XXCoder: but they made a mistake and made windows 7 eligible for upgrade
06:05 AM XXCoder: and it doesnt care if installed copy is registered yet
06:06 AM jthornton: I have two 64bit 7's that are oem install disks
06:06 AM XXCoder: mine is upgrade only but i did clean install lol
06:07 AM Tom_L: i ordered an upgrade or something from a site once and all they gave me was a SN and a link
06:07 AM jthornton: that sucks
06:07 AM Tom_L: may have been 8.1
06:08 AM XXCoder: i think same trick worked for xp, but not previous versions
06:08 AM Tom_L: i have a few disks i have to keep just for the SN to upgrade
06:09 AM Tom_L: 59°F Hi 68
06:11 AM jthornton: 46°F to 73°F here and sunny today
06:11 AM Tom_L: on a main highway thru town separated by a canal we saw a car that had busted thru the side barrier and landed in the canal
06:11 AM Tom_L: how the heck do you do that?
06:11 AM Tom_L: straight piece of road
06:11 AM XXCoder: blowjob while on road and just come when crossing? lol dunno
06:12 AM jthornton: lots of alcohol lol
06:12 AM MarcelineVQ: replying to facebook on her phone
06:12 AM Tom_L: https://kake.images.worldnow.com/images/17783009_G.jpeg?auto=webp&disable=upscale&width=800&lastEditedDate=20181027113127
06:12 AM XXCoder: sadly one of my uncles died that way, not by blowjob but simply steering wheel column disconnecting, he went hard left and went over. it was long way down
06:15 AM Tom_L: once years back the police landed their helicopter in the river
06:16 AM Tom_L: their pad was about half a block from it
07:14 AM Loetmichel: trentster: pleased to help
07:14 AM * Loetmichel is sitting at the company milling down some brass fittings/covers for notebook hinges...
07:15 AM Loetmichel: thanks to the designer who forgot thats his redisgn enclosure is 1,5mm thicker than the old one and not updating the brass schematics to represent that change...
07:15 AM Loetmichel: delivery date for the 7 notebooks: friday ... last week :-(
07:23 AM jthornton: well crap SW 2010 my key code is wrong... 2003 only works on w2000 or older and my sw2008 won't install...
07:27 AM Loetmichel: jthornton: VM withn win2k?
07:27 AM Loetmichel: .n
07:28 AM jthornton: I'd just rather install w2000 I have the disks
07:28 AM jthornton: but I was hoping to get a later version of SW up and running down here for chicken projects :(
08:13 AM fragalot: Hi
09:15 AM {HD}: Brass notebook covers‽ that sounds cool.
09:45 AM rene_dev_: Anyone here from Wisconsin?
09:46 AM jthornton: my buddy is from Wisconsin...
09:48 AM rene_dev_: Im here until Monday, and looking for stuff to do and see
09:53 AM gloops: motor locating bore done, nice little drilling there in situ
09:53 AM gloops: for bandsaw, if blade comes this week, trials will begin!
09:54 AM jthornton: nice
09:54 AM * jthornton wanders out to the shop to start on some louvers for the shed
11:19 AM jthornton: TurBoss: will each G code program run if you start it first?
11:21 AM TurBoss: jthornton: they fail if contains T1M6
11:21 AM jthornton: do you have any remap going on with T or M6?
11:21 AM TurBoss: jthornton: I have to leave
11:21 AM TurBoss: bye
11:53 AM Loetmichel: maan, sometimes my wife is totally tech-savvy and sometimes she isnt. got a paniced call at work (yes, sunday work. Happens) "the washing machine isnt opening, its half full of water and there are clothes in i NEED tomorrow!!!1111"... just came home... put a bucket under the pump sieve access port, emtied 8 liters of water out, removed the sieve, pulled a fist sized ball of link out the
11:53 AM Loetmichel: impeller, reassemled the sieve, switched the machine to "rinse and spin" and it runs like nothing happened... sometimes machines need maintaineance...
12:02 PM gloops: wow cheap ballscrew here https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/ball-screw-3100mm-x-50-with-20mm-pitch/312279009519?
12:16 PM fragalot: HI
01:10 PM JT-Shop: hi
01:46 PM gloops: deathly quiet
02:08 PM JT-Shop: hmm can't browse the internet
02:15 PM pink_vampire: here there activity, not linux cnc related, but machinists in general. https://discord.gg/t84RuSv
02:16 PM gregcnc: saw this yesterday linuxcnc closed loop stepper https://youtu.be/sYaTLtgs-HY
02:27 PM pink_vampire: look very nice idea
02:27 PM pink_vampire: i think steppers + encoders are better VS dc servos
02:28 PM pink_vampire: the dc servos vibrate and you can't use them for an indexer
02:47 PM pcw_home: any servo can vibrate if not tuned properly (typically you need a dead zone or a very high resolution encoder to avoid dithering when static)
02:55 PM gloops: not much use me posting here, nobody else works with wood
02:56 PM * JT-Shop gets back to making the wooden louvers for the new chicken digs
03:00 PM Roguish: oh no.............. https://www.nytimes.com/2018/10/28/business/ibm-red-hat-cloud-computing.html
03:00 PM Roguish: another one bites the dust.
03:01 PM cpresser: could be worse. oracle for example
03:01 PM gloops: save copies of linux and linuxcnc on 50 seperate discs
03:05 PM Tom_L: gloops no but if you show us maybe we'll be encouraged to try some
03:06 PM Tom_L: so if ibm buys redhad will MS buy debian?
03:06 PM Tom_L: and ncr can buy ubuntu
03:13 PM Tom_L: gloops did you start making signs like you mentioned?
03:14 PM gloops: Tom_L have made a few but not had time to focus on it properly yet, got the techniques and everything, everything works, it would be just starting up i suppose
03:15 PM Tom_L: what software were you using for the lettering?
03:16 PM gloops: ive been using vectric aspire, it can be done in inkscape though, and other free apps
03:31 PM Tom_L: and back to deathly quiet again....
03:33 PM gloops: i wonder how many used to find their way here via Ichsguckslives youtube channel, he used to get hundreds of hits a day and this channel was flagged up i think
03:33 PM Tom_L: i'm sure the spammers have had an effect on all of irc
03:34 PM Tom_L: would you register just to view a webpage?
03:34 PM gloops: hardly ever do that
03:34 PM Tom_L: i'm sure Ichs had a big effect
03:35 PM gloops: i guess only the regular ircers go to that trouble, anyone knew will just close this and click on something else
03:35 PM Tom_L: i've noticed it across all the irc channels i'm in
03:35 PM gloops: new
03:38 PM Tom_L: swapped the MB out in my test lcnc box, now i need a pcie ethernet card
03:38 PM gloops: funny other servers get round spammers without having to register en-masse
03:38 PM Tom_L: i migrated here from chatjunkies quite a few years back because it was becoming unstable
03:39 PM Tom_L: may be time for another move
03:39 PM Tom_L: brought one channel with me and started a couple others
03:40 PM gloops: beginning to look like the registering has become permanent
03:41 PM laminae_: Any optical limit switch experts in the house?
03:42 PM laminae_: Have some parker actuators that i finally got working (mostly) but i need to adjust the trigger distance and the manual is leaving a lot to be desired
03:43 PM Tom_L: IR?
03:43 PM Tom_L: make sure the detector is shielded from ambient light
03:44 PM laminae_: http://www.parkermotion.com/Support/Product_Manuals/Linear_Rotary_Manual.pdf
03:44 PM laminae_: page 9
03:44 PM laminae_: they are completely enclosed in a fixture, they are parker of the stage assembly
03:45 PM jdh: I have lots of parker daedal stages of various types at work. They seem to last forever
03:45 PM laminae_: According to the generally information on the product numbe ri can adjust them so that i get the full 16" of travel without bellows, they are currently set for the bellows
03:46 PM laminae_: they seem to be mostly good except the home switch in one isn't working
03:46 PM jdh: the home switch is inverted
03:46 PM laminae_: I'm hoping it's just dirty but it is a hell of a project to take it apart right now
03:47 PM laminae_: Yeah, discovered that, had to run normally high
03:47 PM laminae_: And then i had to plug everything into the expansion port on my 7i76e
03:47 PM laminae_: low voltage
03:47 PM laminae_: Or rather i guess i should say logic level voltage
03:48 PM laminae_: Is there just a detent screw to slide the triggers?
03:48 PM laminae_: I'm really not understanding this manual
03:49 PM jdh: the flag is fixed, the switches slide in a track
03:50 PM laminae_: Awesome
03:50 PM laminae_: I have five small parker stages that have optical switches and i think they use the same system
03:50 PM laminae_: SO if i have to i might be able to replace the home switch if it is actually damaged
03:51 PM laminae_: https://laminae.imgur.com/all/
03:51 PM laminae_: Oops here https://imgur.com/4gTrJ7V
03:52 PM laminae_: Those are all the stages, the only part number i've been able to find my exact stage is the 406 ones with the bellows
03:52 PM Tom_L: PDF P18 P15 describes the switch mounts
03:52 PM Tom_L: although those are magnetic
03:53 PM laminae_: Yeah, that's what confused me, it also has a pinout for magnetic switches on an earlier page
03:54 PM laminae_: If it came down do it and i can always just us a endstop to home
03:55 PM laminae_: center homing would save time and increase accuracy a tad but i'm not anywhere near the precision most of you guys are
03:55 PM gregcnc: many setups use limits to home
03:55 PM jdh: I don't recal any effective difference in the mag or optical cables/mounting/anything
03:55 PM gregcnc: the manual says they repeat to .0002" anyway
03:56 PM jdh: I usually put the home switch just off whichever end is 'safer'
03:56 PM laminae_: One sec, gonna snap a pit before i try and describe the next part
03:56 PM laminae_: pic* not pit
03:57 PM gregcnc: limit switches are only effective with certain types of failures when you have soft limits
03:58 PM jdh: they are very effective when setting the soft limits or when home has not yet been set
03:59 PM laminae_: https://imgur.com/nbwYUN7
03:59 PM jdh: bikes!
04:00 PM laminae_: there are definitely things i'm doing wrong and i'd appreciate it if you point them out, i primarily work wit c02 lasers and 3d printers only been in the router biz for a few months
04:00 PM laminae_: Hell yeah dude!
04:00 PM jdh: what's the shiny one
04:00 PM laminae_: So notice the orientation of the z axis actuator?
04:00 PM laminae_: I'm not sure
04:01 PM laminae_: I got it from the same place i got the others from
04:01 PM laminae_: I want to flip z
04:01 PM laminae_: SO the plat eit attached to the gantry
04:02 PM laminae_: i'm concerned about all that way on a nema 23
04:02 PM laminae_: all that weight*
04:02 PM laminae_: man i'm tired
04:03 PM jdh: it would be a lot of weight. but, better.
04:03 PM laminae_: It has a magnetic limit switch but three broken wires and even after i fix the wires i'm not sure if it is functional
04:03 PM jdh: they are optional
04:04 PM laminae_: I was kinda thinking of just using tough off and not using limits on z, what are your thoughts?
04:05 PM laminae_: I have been working with a small uas company to produce bucks for vacuum forming so it's really nice to have a ton of z so i can throw a 4in thick piece of pblt on there instead of laminating layers
04:06 PM laminae_: I am going to be getting a setarate machine just for wood and plastic though, so onc ei have the version 2 of the flood enclosure completed i can cut carbon plate and alum on this bad boy
04:38 PM Deejay: gn8
04:39 PM {HD}: Whats this thing that came with this dial indicator for? https://i.imgur.com/QarkJNM.jpg
04:42 PM Tom_L: to mount it to something round
04:42 PM Tom_L: oh
04:43 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure what that is
04:43 PM Tom_L: it may be a tool to adjust the slop in the stylus
04:43 PM Tom_L: or to remove the stylus
04:46 PM JT-Shop: {HD}: that's a wrench
04:47 PM {HD}: Neat
04:47 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L: last guess was correct to change the stylus
04:49 PM Tom_L: i recently had to replace one :)
04:50 PM Tom_L: i didn't have the tool
04:52 PM {HD}: Well I guess I will just keep that little wrench in the box. I don’t have any replacement parts so home fully nothing breaks.
05:08 PM Tom_L: https://www.carbideprobes.com/
05:08 PM Tom_L: if you ever need a tip
05:28 PM laminae_: Is the "right" way to add a touch plate to use 24v to 2k resistor from resistor to input and plate and ground to spindle?
05:29 PM Tom_L: or 5v
05:29 PM laminae_: Awesome, thanks
05:30 PM laminae_: Finishing that up then tearing apart one of those optical assemblies, hopefully they slide similarly to the mag ones
05:37 PM {HD}: Does that mean my limit switches should have resistors? I should lookup a parport pinout.
05:38 PM {HD}: I think some pins are high and some low. Don’t really remember.
05:53 PM Tom_L: i didn't put resistors on mine
06:24 PM XXCoder: JT-Shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0vDSxF0SD0
06:36 PM MarcelineVQ: Pleased with herself :>
06:37 PM XXCoder: seems so lol
06:37 PM MarcelineVQ: The Gladice comes along and tells her to fuck off, this is my house
06:37 PM MarcelineVQ: goddamn it gladice
06:38 PM MarcelineVQ: "Tony, don't forget to cut the part where we feed the chickens when they play with the chime"
06:40 PM XXCoder: lol
06:54 PM laminae_: So, whipped up the probe with resistor and tested it in hal meter(success!) buuuut, i go into tune axis and i get a path error that seems to be specific to my rti kernel, anyone else encountered that?
06:56 PM laminae_: specific error https://unsee.cc/852be52f/
07:02 PM andypugh: Which kernal are you running?
07:03 PM andypugh: Which version of LinuxCNC?
07:04 PM andypugh: It looks like this should have been fixed: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/159
07:05 PM laminae_: 2.7.11
07:05 PM andypugh: Though it looks like it might not have been fixed in 2.7 (if it exists in 2.7)
07:05 PM laminae_: on kernel 4.9.0-6-rt-amd64
07:07 PM laminae_: hmm
07:07 PM laminae_: I had such a rough time on first install i'm anxious about re-attempting it
07:08 PM andypugh: cradek: Do you recall what the sitiuation is with #159 in 2.7?
07:08 PM andypugh: I don’t think a resinstall is the answer.
07:08 PM andypugh: You might as well update to 2.7.14 but I doubt that will fix this either.
07:09 PM laminae_: I'm open to suggestions if you have any
07:10 PM andypugh: Let me fire up a VM and have a fiddle.
07:10 PM skunkworks: create the config by hand... ;)
07:10 PM skunkworks: lots of help. - I know
07:11 PM laminae_: wow, thanks andy, didn't expect that
07:11 PM laminae_: Thank you
07:13 PM andypugh: My VM was on master, so it is now compiling 2.7.
07:18 PM andypugh: I get the same error, which is almost good...
07:18 PM andypugh: I am very surprised that we haven’t had many more reports of this problem.
07:19 PM laminae_: I'm thinking someone must have a work around
07:19 PM laminae_: I'm digging through the github now
07:22 PM andypugh: Well, the simple answer is to edit /usr/bin/pnconf and make line 1640 say:
07:22 PM andypugh: elif 0: #hal.is_rt and not hal.kernel_version == actual_kernel:
07:22 PM andypugh: (ie, comment out the test and make the elif fail.
07:23 PM laminae_: One sec, moving ot that terminal
07:27 PM laminae_: Fak, gotta edit this as root i presume?
07:27 PM andypugh: Yes
07:27 PM laminae_: Righto, one sec
07:28 PM andypugh: Well, you don’t have to log in as root. You can use sude
07:28 PM andypugh: (sudo, I mean)
07:28 PM laminae_: I'm a command line newb
07:28 PM laminae_: Already editing
07:29 PM andypugh: Which text editor do you have?
07:29 PM laminae_: Using the default editor in lcnc
07:30 PM andypugh: “sudo mousepad” then, probably.
07:31 PM laminae_: good tip, i could have used that lot recently
07:31 PM laminae_: Obviously have a lot to learn >.>
07:31 PM laminae_: Really appreciate your help though!
07:33 PM laminae_: Welp, unfortunately pncconf won't open now
07:33 PM andypugh: What does the line look lik enow?
07:34 PM andypugh: What does the error message say?
07:34 PM laminae_: copy an dpasted
07:34 PM laminae_: No message at all
07:35 PM XXCoder: theres few nice term editors like nano or xed
07:35 PM andypugh: Interesting
07:35 PM laminae_: One sec, have an idea
07:37 PM andypugh: Try starting pncconf from the command line (just type “pncconf”)
07:39 PM laminae_: Failing to restert
07:39 PM laminae_: restart*
07:39 PM laminae_: gonna try a reboot
07:43 PM andypugh: Unlikely to help
07:43 PM andypugh: Probably an indentation problem.
07:43 PM andypugh: Spaces matter in Python.
07:44 PM laminae_: Yeah, i think you're right, i screwed up the spacing
07:45 PM laminae_: That sudo mousepad command is already paying off though
07:45 PM andypugh: Can you pastebin that section of the code.
07:47 PM laminae_: You were right
07:47 PM laminae_: I accidentally deleted an indent
07:47 PM laminae_: Nothing worse than trying to walk incompetent people through basic troubleshooting haha, thanks for your patience
07:48 PM laminae_: And i can open the tune menu!
07:48 PM laminae_: Again, really appreciate your help and patience
07:48 PM andypugh: Great
07:49 PM laminae_: Should i make a issue in github for other users or would that be redundant?
07:50 PM andypugh: I am not sure why it hasn’t been fixed in 2.7.
07:51 PM {HD}: What are you people think about using incandescent lightbulbs as breaking resisters?
07:52 PM andypugh: It ought to work, but heater elements are more conventional when re-purposing househild items.
07:54 PM {HD}: andypugh: I guess I can ddg heater elements to see where to find them. I liked the idea of a bright flash of light when stopping...for some reason.
07:54 PM {HD}: Is there a particular ohm I should be looking for?
07:55 PM andypugh: It’s not something I know much about, I haven’t ever needed braking resistors.
07:55 PM {HD}: andypugh: I also don’t “need” breaking resistors but I thought it would be neat.
07:56 PM andypugh: Well, in that case use incandescent bulbs, if you can still buy them in your country.
07:56 PM laminae_: could you configure an led on one of your outputs?
07:57 PM laminae_: seems like you could configure hal to make output go high when your touch plate goes low
07:57 PM {HD}: I don’t know how hard they are to find within the United States however I have a large quantity Anna shelf up in the shop.
07:57 PM {HD}: S/Anna/on a
07:58 PM andypugh: laminae_: Yes, that’s pretty easy, though probably a manual HAL edit is needed
07:59 PM laminae_: Nice, i think i might do that too then
07:59 PM laminae_: Then i would have a troubleshooting tool if something doesn't work
08:00 PM andypugh: Another alternative is an onscreen “LED” to indicate the same thing.
08:00 PM laminae_: I goess if it came down to it i could just turn on the hal scope too
08:00 PM andypugh: It is a good idea, I keep menaing to do the same thing as it’s nice to know the probe is working before hitting things with it.
08:01 PM andypugh: halmeter is a bit less trouble to set up for that.
08:02 PM laminae_: I put 4mm pomona plugs on my "probe" so i can switch between magnet, plate or alligator clip easily so it's pretty easy to pull apart if i do need to
08:03 PM andypugh: I am a bit more fancy, my various probes plug in to a Lemo socket.
08:10 PM laminae_: I think i would like that on the case side
08:11 PM laminae_: Just found this, pretty good guide, https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HvRG91yWNCQ
08:11 PM laminae_: better than my original concept
08:29 PM _unreal_: sweet just got my no clean SMD rosin
08:30 PM _unreal_: killing me I just want my pnp mosfets to arrive in the mail
08:51 PM _unreal_: omg not even 10pm and my head is bobbing :(
09:18 PM _unreal_: I wish I wasnt so damn tired
10:13 PM {HD}: Does linuxcnc leverage the video card for anything other than display? Can I get away with this very old vga card?
10:15 PM XXCoder: you need gpu but besides that it dont really matter
10:15 PM XXCoder: video card doing its own work means less cpu interruptions
10:15 PM XXCoder: which makes for better latency
10:16 PM {HD}: Cool. I will prob switch this thing out for this stinkin old vga card.
10:17 PM {HD}: Since the monitor I am using is also stinkin old. Then I don’t need any fancy wires.
10:17 PM XXCoder: probably can ebay some old gamer card
10:17 PM XXCoder: if that card isnt good enough
10:18 PM {HD}: You said any card will do
10:18 PM XXCoder: my linuxcnc pc uses 12 year old pc gamer card
10:18 PM XXCoder: kind of
10:18 PM {HD}: Kind of...haha
10:18 PM XXCoder: some shitty shared ram card would not do
10:19 PM XXCoder: nor any that depends on cpu
10:19 PM XXCoder: besides those, most would work just fine
10:20 PM {HD}: https://i.imgur.com/rLFm2Xe.jpg
10:20 PM {HD}: I’ve got these 3 older cards to pick from.
10:20 PM {HD}: The black and the red card have hdmi so cannot be too old.
10:22 PM {HD}: Wow
10:22 PM XXCoder: top left and bottom seems usable yeah
10:22 PM XXCoder: top right dunno
10:22 PM {HD}: https://i.imgur.com/evMHmNp.jpg
10:23 PM {HD}: This was what was in it.
10:23 PM XXCoder: "any coment removal is not allowed"
10:23 PM XXCoder: lol
10:23 PM XXCoder: it looks like it tries to be badass gamer card
10:23 PM {HD}: This is old
10:23 PM {HD}: 20 years prob
10:24 PM XXCoder: it probably WAS badass dunno
10:24 PM {HD}: I remember buying it so I could play the original tomb raider
10:24 PM XXCoder: msi olf nvidia or asus
10:25 PM XXCoder: nvidia tend to be better supported in linux but that one might be too old?
10:25 PM {HD}: 1996 I bought this gainward...
10:25 PM XXCoder: it has hdmi connection point but not connected I think, or mayve thats second vga
10:26 PM {HD}: XXCoder: lol thats an unpopulated svideo spot!
10:26 PM XXCoder: doh thats older than I expected
10:26 PM {HD}: https://i.imgur.com/oTMk0UI.jpg
10:27 PM {HD}: Has the same pin config as the gainward that has it populated
10:27 PM XXCoder: ehh I think top left or bottom is fine
10:27 PM XXCoder: both is modern enough if bottom rightmost connector is hdmi
10:27 PM {HD}: Thats not even svideo...I don’t know what that is...
10:28 PM {HD}: Yes the asus and msi have hdmi
10:28 PM XXCoder: hm well you could always just do latency test with all those
10:29 PM {HD}: XXCoder: I was hitting 5k with the gainward.
10:30 PM XXCoder: 5k max latency?
10:30 PM {HD}: When running 3xglxgears I think I hit 10k
10:30 PM {HD}: Yeah 5k is that too much?
10:30 PM XXCoder: what I do is run nearly full screen HD youtube screen (as much of it is constantly mocing as possible), 3 glxgears and moving one of those glxgear around rapidly
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10:31 PM XXCoder: lower the better but you want your pc BUUUUSY when testing for latency.
10:31 PM XXCoder: my pc I got 15k which is very good
10:32 PM XXCoder: you want within certain range of latancy, and above 100k makes for shitty latency
10:32 PM {HD}: I was running a sample gcode
10:32 PM {HD}: 100k that is huge
10:32 PM {HD}: Ive never seen it that high
10:32 PM XXCoder: hah nothing compared with my laptop. 250k
10:32 PM XXCoder: anyway try the test as I have outlined. maybe also run linuxcnc gcode at same time
10:33 PM {HD}: Holy moly. Ok I will test out this other older card first.
10:33 PM XXCoder: try to repeat tests as exactly same as you can
10:33 PM {HD}: Moving this box upstairs so hopefully will have it back together by tmrw.
10:33 PM XXCoder: use same HD video for example
10:34 PM pink_vampire: hi all
10:34 PM XXCoder: hey pink_vampire
10:34 PM {HD}: Hi
10:34 PM pink_vampire: hi XXCoder
10:34 PM pink_vampire: hi {HD}
10:39 PM ziper: hi
10:39 PM pink_vampire: I need to make 2 of those https://imgur.com/a/kmzBWs8
10:39 PM pink_vampire: 1" to 3/8" barb fitting
10:40 PM XXCoder: air pressure adoptors?
10:40 PM XXCoder: if I am making those for personal use I'd make a couple more as setup time takes much more than mere material
10:43 PM pink_vampire: it is for my radiator
10:45 PM {HD}: 3d print those things in 2 seconds. What pressures, temps and toxic liquids?
10:45 PM pink_vampire: antifreeze
10:46 PM pink_vampire: and about 35 psi
10:46 PM pink_vampire: 40C
10:46 PM XXCoder: yeah cant 3d print that
10:46 PM ziper: lost PLA, cast them
10:47 PM pink_vampire: i that the repreap channel?
10:47 PM MarcelineVQ: can't get something like that at lordco?
10:48 PM XXCoder: can always get something close enough and lathe it to fit
10:48 PM XXCoder: if it exists
10:48 PM XXCoder: theres few parts at work thats little more than just modify existing bolts
10:49 PM pink_vampire: there is no 1" to 3/8"
10:50 PM XXCoder: none pretty close and modifable?
10:51 PM pink_vampire: try to search
10:51 PM {HD}: Whats the working temps of nylon? I just started printing that.
10:52 PM pink_vampire: 3d print will leak
10:52 PM {HD}: Not at 35psi.
10:53 PM {HD}: My prints could handle that.
10:54 PM pink_vampire: brass will make me sleep at night
10:55 PM {HD}: That’s probably worth it
10:55 PM pink_vampire: and it is good time in front of the lathe
10:58 PM {HD}: I need to get a lathe. I am waiting on tony to finish his 4th axis videos to see if I could get by with that.
10:59 PM MarcelineVQ: something like https://www.homedepot.com/p/Everbilt-5-8-in-x-3-4-in-MIP-Lead-Free-Brass-Hose-Barb-Adapter-800149/300096777 is pretty close, hard to say without checking in person whether that hex section is wide enough to work with though. there's things like this which are pretty close though.
11:01 PM pink_vampire: MarcelineVQ: not even close
11:02 PM MarcelineVQ: Not at all? Too narrow at the threaded end?
11:02 PM pink_vampire: i need it barb on each end
11:04 PM MarcelineVQ: Oh I meant for if you were gonna do lathe work anyway, not that this fits as-is
11:05 PM pink_vampire: yeah.. maybe
11:05 PM MarcelineVQ: Is your picture of two barbs then, one just has a single sort of ridge for a barb?
11:06 PM pink_vampire: but i almost never use the lathe, and if i find a reason to make a project i will jump on the opportunity
11:06 PM pink_vampire: MarcelineVQ: it's a lip like the radiator have
11:20 PM XXCoder: cool :)