#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 10 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:24 AM fragalot: syyl: great work on the knuth :) love the cable drive mod.
01:58 AM Deejay: moin
04:31 AM arekmx is now known as arekm
04:59 AM jthornton: morning
05:09 AM Blumax: Hello, I'm not yet finish the configuration of the portico but it advances well :)
05:10 AM Blumax: I use kinstype = BOTH of the shot in the UI I am no longer XYZA to indicate but 01234, see here
05:10 AM Blumax: https://prntscr.com/ksn2rx
05:10 AM Blumax: There is a solution ?
05:13 AM jthornton: yes http://linuxcnc.org/docs/devel/html/config/ini-homing.html#_home_sequence
05:15 AM Tom_L: morning
05:15 AM jthornton: morning
05:16 AM Blumax: jthornton, I'm looking this, thanks
05:16 AM Tom_L: 57°F Hi 76
05:16 AM jthornton: Blumax: when you start up a gantry config you are in joint mode, after you home it changes
05:17 AM Blumax: ok
05:17 AM Tom_L: that seems odd
05:21 AM gloops: Blumax the config starts in JOINT mode, you have to home all axis and then it switches to global mode - XYZA
05:21 AM gloops: have not got my configs here but will have them later this afternoon
05:21 AM gloops: Blumax the config starts in JOINT mode - 01234, you have to home all axis and then it switches to global mode - XYZA
05:22 AM jthornton: I think they call it world mode
05:22 AM gloops: here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDTpnf7DIHM
05:22 AM gloops: yes probably jthornton
05:23 AM gloops: you cant jog until homed
05:23 AM Blumax: ok, after home, UI change for XYZA, if I understand correctly
05:24 AM gloops: yes
05:24 AM jthornton: ah it teleop mode
05:24 AM Blumax: Thanks guys, I continue to configure the endstop so :)
05:24 AM jthornton: you can jog before homing
05:25 AM gloops: jthornton you can jog each joint, but a dual motor joint wont jog in sync i dont think
05:25 AM jthornton: Blumax: are you using master or 2.7?
05:25 AM jthornton: gloops: that is correct
05:25 AM Blumax: 2.8
05:25 AM gloops: you know i cant remember now lol, i just automatically home all before doing anything
05:25 AM jthornton: ok good that one handles gantries correctly
05:26 AM gloops: if you got the config to load Blumax youre very close, some tinkering with the homing now
09:00 AM armu: Any security researchers here? I have code that needs reviewing, large rewards for bugs found. DM me.
09:06 AM fragalot: armu: in the unlikely event that you are not a bot: how is your code related to linuxcnc?
09:08 AM CaptHindsight: how large are these rewards? 100^3 meters, 10,000^3?
09:13 AM skunkworks: think bigger.. 4th dimension...
09:26 AM Simonious: I'm doing a small production run and I'm interested in learning about doing multiples.. so I maximize my time (since I have to manually tool change and obviously I can do more other things if the machine runs longer doing multiples)
09:26 AM Simonious: Is this pretty easy to setup in linuxCNC
09:26 AM Simonious: ?
09:27 AM trafaret1: Hi there
09:27 AM trafaret1: I need your help
09:27 AM trafaret1: Maybe somebody can help me
09:28 AM Simonious: maybe someone can, but.. it is so much better to simply ask your question than to give a lengthy preamble about needing help.
09:28 AM Simonious: vastly preferred in fact
09:28 AM trafaret1: I'm wondering about possibility launching simulation TIA portal without hardware?
09:29 AM Simonious: I don't know what that is! Is that a linuxCNC thing?
09:29 AM trafaret1: wiht HMI panel
09:29 AM trafaret1: nope :)
09:29 AM Simonious: solidworks maybe?
09:29 AM Simonious: heh, obviously I'm not going to be much help!
09:29 AM trafaret1: no it is Totaly Integrated Automation Portal
09:30 AM trafaret1: maybe you know channel where people discussing PLC programmign such domain
09:34 AM * Simonious ponders
09:35 AM Simonious: you use linuxCNC?
09:35 AM Simonious: I'm not sure where to ask your questoin
09:35 AM Simonious: I might try #seattlerobotics
09:35 AM Simonious: or #Hackvana
09:36 AM Simonious: maybe #arduino or #platformio
09:36 AM trafaret1: ok thanks :)
09:41 AM fragalot: TIA portal is a siemens thing
09:41 AM trafaret1: yes
09:41 AM fragalot: and I believe it is possible, however I have zero experience with it.
09:41 AM fragalot: Simonious: as for your question, is that not more a CAM thing than a linuxcnc thing?
09:42 AM fragalot: Simonious: I mean.. it is possible to write macro's and loops and use work offsets to do it manually too though
09:59 AM Simonious: fragalot: yes! maybe? I think so. I don't know. I'm using F360 for CAM, this is the best place I know to ask questions like this.
09:59 AM fragalot: f360 can certainly do it I think
09:59 AM fragalot: and linuxcnc can also certainly work with offsets
09:59 AM fragalot: so therefore, the answer to your question is "yes, it is possible". :)
10:01 AM gloops: g54?
10:52 AM fragalot: miss0r: received an update regarding my DRO. "I am very sorry to inform you that there has been an error within our system and your order was not processed correctly. , I can assure you that this was not intentional and was an unexpected error. I would like to offer my sincere apologies."
10:54 AM gloops: what to use to open hal files on windows
10:55 AM fragalot: gloops: notepad++
10:56 AM fragalot: it's the only editor I know of that respects line endings
10:57 AM gloops: hmm, will have a look thanks
10:57 AM gloops: need to get a linux drive on here
11:05 AM pink_vampire: gloops: just use ssh from your windows to the linux
11:05 AM pink_vampire: with winscp or putty
12:10 PM Tom_L: man what a day.. 66°F and calm
12:10 PM Tom_L: i'll take it
12:11 PM Tom_L: gloops i use notepad++ or programmer's notepad
12:12 PM roycroft: drizzly here, thank goodness
12:13 PM roycroft: we need proper monsoon level rain to start dealing with the fires, though
12:13 PM Tom_L: where are they concentrated at?
12:14 PM Tom_L: lightening or human cause?
12:14 PM roycroft: east of here, southeast of here, and down by the california border
12:14 PM gloops: cheers - i have got a hard drive with linux installed pink_vampire, and some stuff on it, i need to get round to sticking it in this box
12:14 PM roycroft: both natural and human caused
12:14 PM roycroft: i shouldn't complain though - the norcal fires are really bad
12:15 PM Tom_L: seems they get fires every year
12:15 PM gloops: wasted all afternoon trying to set planer up - could have surfaced board on router in 20 minutes
12:15 PM roycroft: so bad that the new huge fire down in shasta and trinitiy counties is already partial contained because it started in between the two other huge fires down there, and has burned to the other side of the fire lines already
12:15 PM gloops: hours pass when youre not having fun...
12:16 PM roycroft: they're getting wors, tom_l
12:16 PM Tom_L: they fly when you are
12:16 PM roycroft: both in frequency and severity
12:16 PM roycroft: seven years of drought aren't fixed by one normal rain season
12:17 PM roycroft: and half a century of poor forest management can't be fixed quickly
12:18 PM roycroft: oh well, at least it doesn't smell like smoke today (yet)
12:20 PM gloops: now got a couple of afternoons to turn a £50 piece of oak into a wedding sign for saturday lol
12:20 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot :)
12:20 PM fragalot: 'ello
12:20 PM miss0r|office2: I phoned GLS again today
12:21 PM fragalot: were they any help?
12:21 PM miss0r|office2: and she told me, that she could see that the package was already marked 'missing'.
12:21 PM miss0r|office2: and noone has been able to find it
12:21 PM fragalot: ha.
12:21 PM miss0r|office2: She told me to wait 10 days, before it could be declared missing. Then a settlement can be made
12:21 PM Tom_L: not the one with the faulty screws in the lid??
12:21 PM fragalot: maybe I should play the lottery
12:21 PM fragalot: win the numbers
12:22 PM fragalot: and have them lose the ticket
12:22 PM miss0r|office2: lol
12:22 PM fragalot: what were the terms of the settlement,
12:22 PM miss0r|office2: Just don't send your winning ticked by mail
12:22 PM miss0r|office2: up to ~600 eur ensurance
12:22 PM miss0r|office2: I just have to prove that is what it is worth
12:23 PM fragalot: shouldn't be too hard given that it's a tapmatic that retails for over 1k?
12:23 PM miss0r|office2: so; I'm thinking: What ever settlement I can manage, you will get half. Unless the settlement is below your price for it. Then you get it all ;)
12:23 PM fragalot: unless if an invoice is required, in which case we're SOL
12:24 PM miss0r|office2: nah - they know it is a prescent for a previous coworker in Belgium
12:24 PM miss0r|office2: But lets just cross our fingers that it will shop up
12:24 PM Tom_L: the postman that has it will show up here eventually asking how it works
12:24 PM fragalot: haha
12:24 PM miss0r|office2: (althoug, I am not holding my breath)
12:24 PM miss0r|office2: hehe yeah
12:25 PM fragalot: at least the biax made it
12:25 PM miss0r|office2: & then we get'im !
12:25 PM miss0r|office2: yeah
12:25 PM fragalot: I got a notification that there's another one on ebay
12:25 PM miss0r|office2: Had we shipped in the other order, I would drive down and pick it up myself
12:25 PM miss0r|office2: brb on the shop irc
12:25 PM fragalot: 1k8 :P
12:26 PM roycroft: yet another parcel has arrived at the local ups depot days early - it arrived saturday morning, with a scheduled delivery date of wednesday
12:26 PM roycroft: and it's still scheduled for delivery on wednesday
12:27 PM roycroft: because it makes more sense for ups to warehouse it than to just stick it on the truck when it's ready to deliver
12:27 PM roycroft: they are the only carrier who do that
12:27 PM fragalot: at least they actually deliver it
12:27 PM * fragalot glares at his experiences the last few weeks
12:28 PM roycroft: yes, and i'm not upset about it
12:28 PM roycroft: i just think it's stupid
12:28 PM roycroft: and it actually gives me less incentive to use ups, vs. being willing to pay more for expedited shipping
12:28 PM miss0r: meh..
12:28 PM Tom_L: no, they can charge more for their premier services than
12:28 PM Tom_L: then
12:29 PM miss0r: fragalot: Well, with some luck, you are looking at earning money on that tapmatic :)
12:29 PM Tom_L: and just tell joe in the warehouse to THROW it on the truck
12:29 PM roycroft: that's the only reason i can imagine for their strange behavior - if they actually deliver something early someone might decide not to pay more for expedited shipping
12:29 PM Tom_L: they used to not do that
12:29 PM roycroft: i can't ever remember getting a parcel from ups early
12:29 PM Tom_L: i can
12:29 PM roycroft: i get things early all the time from fedex and usps and ontrac and dhl
12:30 PM fragalot: miss0r: doubt it :) customer rep was friendly for the schaublin too, but then it gets passed to insurance & they require invoices for any repairs, but they also require one of their own experts to assess the damages at the same time if they disagree with said invoices.
12:30 PM roycroft: but in fairness, i've also never experienced the serious damage that lots of folks report from parcels being mishandled by ups
12:30 PM miss0r: fragalot: hmm... That sucks
12:30 PM roycroft: i can recall only once in recent memory where something was damaged in shipping, and that was clearly because it was not packaged correclty
12:31 PM roycroft: when the driver arrived with the ripped open box, i took one look at it and said to him "this is clearly the shipper's fault - i hope most of the pieces are still here"
12:31 PM miss0r: fragalot: Well, in that case I can only prove the original price I payed for it. the price you also payed. you are not likely to find another one for that price
12:32 PM fragalot: miss0r: nope. We'll seee.
12:32 PM miss0r: It better f'ing turn up!
12:32 PM * Tom_L waits for the postman to show up in here
12:33 PM miss0r: I've ordered quite a few things lately. only *ONE* of the things I ordered turned up on time. That was a standard letter sent from jthornton :D
12:33 PM roycroft: for those of you who ship stuff: it's not a good idea to toss a bunch of angle iron and fasterers into a big box without any padding/wrapping and expect that everything will still be in the box when it is delivered
12:33 PM miss0r: roycroft: duly noted
12:34 PM fragalot: miss0r: at least i've got the collets and a spare nut now xD
12:34 PM fragalot: roycroft: that's why you tape the seems
12:34 PM Tom_L: i've got a part i order somewhat frequently that weighs upwards of 50lbs and i don't think i've ever received one that the box wasn't ripped
12:34 PM fragalot: seams?
12:34 PM fragalot: however that's spelled
12:34 PM roycroft: so i got my hearing protection with tunes capability on friday
12:34 PM Tom_L: but the small parts are taped to the metal
12:34 PM roycroft: i used it over the weekend and am pretty happy with it
12:34 PM miss0r: fragalot: Another great example of me rushing into projects: I finished the drawings for the retrofit earlier today. As it turns out, I could've just ordered the 7i77, as it has quite enough I/Os. I didn't have to order the additional 7i64 :D
12:35 PM roycroft: i'm working in a noisy machine room (computer servers - that kind of machine room) today, and brought it with me
12:35 PM roycroft: and it's pretty nice - the radio even works pretty well inside the machine room
12:35 PM Tom_L: miss0r you just can't have too many mesa cards
12:35 PM fragalot: miss0r: xD
12:35 PM roycroft: this is what i ended up getting:
12:35 PM roycroft: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B0013092CS/
12:36 PM fragalot: miss0r: at least you now have enough IO for auxillaries like a toolchanger
12:36 PM roycroft: the sound is not audiophile quality, but it's clear and quite listenable
12:36 PM roycroft: and the price was pretty good
12:36 PM miss0r|office2: Tom_L: That is true.
12:36 PM roycroft: i was not wanting to spend $300 for something
12:36 PM roycroft: and i don't think anr is necessary for my application
12:36 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I already added that - still don't need the 7i64
12:36 PM miss0r|office2: :D
12:37 PM * fragalot would love it if he could just strap his B&W 683 series to his head
12:37 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: hydraulic vise? :P
12:37 PM miss0r|office2: I think you'd need shoulder braces for that
12:37 PM roycroft: well this is a heck of a lot better than the old method
12:37 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I still have a few I/Os left.
12:37 PM roycroft: which was wearing similar earmuffs, and then turning the stereo up REALLY LOUD so i could still hear it with the earmuffs on
12:37 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: tower light, buzzer,...
12:38 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I already added a tower light :D
12:38 PM miss0r|office2: no buzzer, though
12:38 PM fragalot: but no buzzer
12:38 PM fragalot: noob
12:38 PM miss0r|office2: well.. The tower light I have has a built in buzzer.. and I still have a few outputs left...
12:38 PM * miss0r|office2 flaps fralalot with a buzzer
12:39 PM miss0r|office2: even the towerlight is overkill... Its not like I need it to keep an overview of my machine park from my catwalk
12:39 PM Blumax: gloops, jthornton (and other), the homing works, but once the home is done I always 01234 in the UI and not XYZA and impossible to do job in there. See here https://prnt.sc/kst4r4
12:40 PM gloops: hmm, check the error message Blumax
12:40 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: still. you need an extractor fan
12:41 PM gloops: Blumax are you running 'home all'
12:41 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I can live with manualy opening the ventilation valve above the machine :) (noob)
12:42 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: RGB worklights? :D
12:42 PM miss0r|office2: haha now we're talking
12:42 PM Blumax: I'm use the button "Prise d'origine général", in english "general origin"
12:43 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: did you factor in your sub-spindle?
12:43 PM Blumax: I"mg go try without negative home_sequence
12:44 PM Blumax: And I'm going to watch how to put the ui in English
12:45 PM miss0r|office2: well, yes and no. NO: no electrical controls are set aside for it. yes: I thought about it :D
12:46 PM miss0r|office2: This is going to be a very uncomplicated build: other than the connectors & the 7i77, theres only going to be a PSU and three relays in that box.
12:46 PM miss0r|office2: (not counting buttons, screen & pc)
12:47 PM gloops: thats my ini that works https://justpaste.it/5tlbp
12:47 PM fragalot: yeah i'm not sure why you were worried about this conversion
12:47 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I'm not; as long as I've got you with me when it comes to the programming ;)
12:48 PM miss0r|office2: and I still need to draw up a schematic of what speed ranges & gears should run together
12:49 PM gloops: actually looking at it my ini is probably not a good example to follow lol
12:49 PM gloops: i err, messed about with stuff to get the XY 0 where i wanted it
12:49 PM miss0r|office2: I've actualy thought about using an arduino or something simular to handle the gear changes. and just have the 7i77 request it
12:49 PM miss0r|office2: But that is just me running scared from the thought of programming that in linuxcnc
12:50 PM fragalot: xD
12:50 PM fragalot: that would be so incredibly hacky
12:51 PM miss0r|office2: Its just to solder points from using a bucket with rocks in it
12:51 PM miss0r|office2: rephrase: "Its just two solder points away from using a bucket with rocks in it"
12:51 PM miss0r|office2: is what I meant to say.
12:52 PM Tom_L: miss0r did you look over skunkworks' gearchange comp?
12:52 PM miss0r|office2: Tom_L: I didn't, no. But I saved the link, so I will. I read a bit on it, though. and sadly what I need is a little more complex in a way
12:53 PM miss0r|office2: I have a combination of a variable speed DC drive and gears.
12:54 PM miss0r|office2: I was hoping to find something along the lines of; G-code states: s3200 M3. The computer looks at the gear table and decides that 3200rpm is in gear X, and the output voltage to the DC drive should be 8.73volt ect
12:55 PM JT-Shop: I don't see why you can't do that
12:55 PM miss0r|office2: But this will all succeed at some point. I have a faint image in my head, that I have the gear vs speed ranges in a binder somewhere
12:55 PM jdh: do it in ladder?
12:55 PM miss0r|office2: JT-Shop: Sure, not do I. But seing as I've never programmed anything for linuxcnc, it seems like a daunting task
12:56 PM Blumax: gloops, I tested the same configuration but I remove the 4th axis (A), it works at once but not A ^^
12:56 PM Blumax: I dont have home on A
12:56 PM Blumax: Maybe that's why?
12:57 PM Tom_L: you can likely disable homing A in the ini
12:58 PM miss0r|office2: jdh: again, I've never done any programming in linuxCNC. I guess that what throws me of course
12:58 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: how well does the mill handle "on the fly" gearchanges? :P has it got a synchromesh gearbox?
12:59 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: if by 'on the fly' you mean 'gear teeth *flying* in the air', then yes
12:59 PM miss0r|office2: it does not have a synchromesh.
01:00 PM miss0r|office2: I have 'some' ajustability within the DC drive, that is it
01:00 PM CaptHindsight: miss0r|office2: thank you for using the |
01:00 PM fragalot: nothing wrong with a good |
01:00 PM miss0r|office2: what is wrong with it? |||
01:00 PM miss0r|office2: :)
01:01 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: It just hit me; perhaps he was not sarcastic..
01:01 PM CaptHindsight: without the | it would be funny
01:01 PM fragalot: me sore office :D
01:01 PM miss0r|office2: heh.. Yeah, I can see that now :D
01:01 PM Blumax: Tom_L, with what ?
01:02 PM miss0r|office2: it would sound like miss orifice
01:03 PM miss0r|office2: at some point it struck me what a terrible name miss0r is. in the electronics chat it would translate to "Miss Zero Resistance"
01:03 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: Drilling specialist!
01:03 PM miss0r|office2: This is getting out'a hand.. Wha?
01:03 PM fragalot: miss0r sorry, me love you long time?
01:04 PM fragalot: also - even in an electronics chat, nobody would have gotten that :D
01:04 PM fragalot: and if they did.. oh boy.
01:04 PM FinboySlick: A schaublin owner only loves his schaublin. Don't believe his lies, miss0r|office2
01:05 PM miss0r|office2: I guess not. But it is common to think that I am of the female gender. Which is quite helpful in electronics chat :D I don't correct people assuming that. It is easier to get help that way :D
01:05 PM fragalot: haha
01:05 PM miss0r|office2: FinboySlick: Don't worry; I'm under no illusions :)
01:06 PM fragalot: can I love the new face mill too?
01:06 PM FinboySlick: She is a demanding swiss mistress.
01:06 PM gloops: Blumax not something ive done - had an A axis on top
01:06 PM FinboySlick: You'll have to ask the 13.
01:06 PM fragalot: I hope she likes it, it's a gift for her
01:06 PM miss0r|office2: story of the nick: Back in the day I used to play alot of first person shooter.. (yeah, I know :-/). Back then I was called Garfield_. Garfield is a cat. in danish misser is the equivalent of kitty. and misser turned to miss0r.. there we go
01:07 PM fragalot: better story than mine
01:07 PM jthornton: Blumax: did you set your gantry joints home sequence to a negative number?
01:07 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: Remember to have real dimond inserts :P
01:07 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: only the finest!
01:07 PM miss0r|office2: Then she is bound to love it :D
01:07 PM miss0r|office2: Just make sure she does not love it so much, she fuses tapers with it ;)
01:07 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: Well, there are feline euphemisms for feminine gender too.
01:07 PM jthornton: miss0r|office2: dang your like me and on here with several nics lol... I could see doing it in classicladder or as a comp
01:08 PM CaptHindsight: schaublin sounds like something possibly done in private
01:08 PM gloops: hmm, new contact lenses available with 3x optical zoom, good idea
01:08 PM miss0r|office2: jthornton: You wouldn't happen to have a link for a tutorial on the subject?
01:08 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: So, what is the story of your nick?
01:08 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight: schaublin the butt
01:09 PM jthornton: I do for classicladder
01:09 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: FPS. I was good.
01:09 PM miss0r|office2: jthornton; Then that is where I shall start :)
01:09 PM gloops: CaptHindsight and desolate carparks and laybys
01:09 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: Not as good as me ;)
01:09 PM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/linuxcnc/ladder/index.html
01:09 PM miss0r|office2: :D
01:09 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: top 12 european good.
01:09 PM Blumax: jthornton, negative or not that works.
01:09 PM jthornton: I always start with a written description of what has to happen
01:10 PM fragalot: now I'd be happy to make it out of the spawn point
01:10 PM fragalot: :D
01:10 PM miss0r|office2: you and me both
01:10 PM FinboySlick: fragalot: Think of all the mills you could buy if you spent all that time becoming a PUBG streamer on twitch.
01:10 PM fragalot: FinboySlick: twitch wasn't a thing at the time :P
01:10 PM FinboySlick: But it is now. You missed your window.
01:10 PM fragalot: FinboySlick: and my bandwidth limit was 5G a month...
01:10 PM miss0r|office2: jthornton: That looks like some good reading :) THanks
01:10 PM jthornton: A negative HOME_SEQUENCE also applies to commands to home a single joint. If the HOME_SEQUENCE value is negative, all joints having the same absolute value of that HOME_SEQUENCE will be homed together with a synchronized final move.
01:11 PM jthornton: miss0r|office2: the turret example configuration is a good example to study
01:12 PM miss0r|office2: Indeed.
01:12 PM gloops: Blumax http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/ini-homing.html
01:13 PM Blumax: Yes I understood how it works.
01:13 PM Blumax: If I take off "A" it works. On "A" I do not end, the problem does not come from there?
01:13 PM jthornton: I would do something like if snnn is in range 0-100 for example use gear A and multiply snnn by some number to get volts out
01:13 PM gloops: sounds like the A to me
01:14 PM miss0r|office2: jthornton: That makes sense
01:14 PM miss0r|office2: I'd also need a ladder for doing the actual gear change.
01:14 PM Blumax: A is a digitizer divider.
01:15 PM gloops: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/49-basic-configuration/34783-homing-a-axis
01:16 PM gloops: probably a lot more posts on A homing on the forum
01:17 PM jthornton: the same ladder can handle both
01:17 PM * jthornton notices lunch minute is over
01:18 PM jthornton: Blumax: it would be easier if you have an A axis that you unplug to just have two configurations one for with and one for without
01:25 PM Blumax: Thank you gloops, I look at that.
01:25 PM Blumax: jthornton, it's not a solution ^^
01:25 PM JT-Shop: miss0r|office2: to prove your ladder use a classicladder sim and add led's for the gear change output and buttons for sensor inputs
01:25 PM JT-Shop: add a pyvcp panel to the sim
01:25 PM * JT-Shop head to the fab shop to make sparks
01:26 PM miss0r|office2: JT-Shop: Good idea :D
01:42 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: also; That chicken trap didn't catch a single hornet all day
01:42 PM miss0r|office2: Tomorrow I'll take it down.
01:44 PM fragalot: you must have done it wrong
01:44 PM fragalot: maybe you've got a vegetarian hive
01:44 PM miss0r|office2: the hornets will only eat a certain type of organic chicken? and only breast parts? :D
01:45 PM miss0r|office2: I've not even seen one approach it. I don't get it
01:45 PM fragalot: are you sure they're hornets and not innocent little bumblebees
01:46 PM miss0r|office2: quite :)
01:46 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OM4Nku2qAiI
01:48 PM miss0r|office2: FinboySlick: :D only issue is; these big ones will just walse over and turn off the blower & kick my ass afterwards
01:49 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: https://www.bugasalt.com/products/yellow-bug-a-salt-2-0 use your FPS skills!
01:50 PM FinboySlick: (I have one of those, they're great)
01:50 PM miss0r|office2: woah
01:50 PM miss0r|office2: That looks awesome :D
01:51 PM miss0r|office2: Whats the range on that?
01:51 PM FinboySlick: Realistically, you have about 1m range but it's still very satisfying to shoot the bugger that bumped your head a couple times.
01:51 PM miss0r|office2: I wonder if this would actualy even hurt the hornets?
01:51 PM FinboySlick: Very tough to catch them in flight though.
01:51 PM FinboySlick: Yes.
01:52 PM FinboySlick: They'll go down and the embedded salt will kill them a few minutes later.
01:52 PM * fragalot uses an electric bug swatter he got in the UK..
01:52 PM fragalot: seems they're not that big on safety there
01:52 PM fragalot: because damn that thing packs a punch
01:52 PM miss0r|office2: well. these hornets I have are the kind that are ~40-45mm in length
01:52 PM fragalot: most just vaporize
01:52 PM fragalot: big boys!
01:53 PM miss0r|office2: yeah
01:53 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: I've taken down junebugs with mine.
01:53 PM Blumax: jthornton, gloops and other, thank you, all works correctly :)
01:53 PM miss0r|office2: then it packs a decent punch, yeah :D
01:54 PM miss0r|office2: I'll need to see if I can find my old bug swatter. one of those tennis rackets, where it has two layers of mesh, each connected to a pole on a capasitor
01:55 PM FinboySlick: miss0r|office2: If you catch flies in-flight, they pretty much vaporise. If there is a surface (window, wall), the air gets redirected and it doesn't hit as much.
01:55 PM miss0r|office2: I super charged mine some years ago.. that little charging circuit struggles to charge it :D but when it does (after about 30 seconds) it vaporizes the bugs
01:55 PM miss0r|office2: FinboySlick: It sounds like great fun. but who wants salt everywhere? :D
01:56 PM FinboySlick: It's actually very little salt. An airplane salt packet would be 5 shots.
01:56 PM miss0r|office2: ha
01:56 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: go to the UK & get one of the zappers from go outdoors; they're the most powerful (out of the box) ones i've found so far :P
01:57 PM miss0r|office2: :D
01:57 PM fragalot: also, camera flash capacitors pack a decent hit :D
01:57 PM miss0r|office2: yeah
01:57 PM gloops: yes, 200 days to get your british zappers
01:57 PM miss0r|office2: That was what I added to mine
01:57 PM FinboySlick: https://www.bugasalt.com/products/lawn-garden-edition is for the big bugs, probably better suited for your wasps. But that one will throw a lot more salt.
01:58 PM fragalot: FinboySlick: does it accept rock salt?
01:58 PM FinboySlick: Maybe but I'm not sure how well it would work. It's better suited to table salt since it's meant more like flak/buckshot
01:59 PM miss0r|office2: hehe. Who comes up with this stuff? :D
01:59 PM FinboySlick: Larger grains might hit harder but they're not as likely to hit.
01:59 PM miss0r|office2: Any of you guys know if it is possible to get one of these fleabay special MPGs that are wireless and has a USB dongle with linuxCNC?
01:59 PM Simonious: How do I copy a design in F360? This guy has nearly the same question I do: https://knowledge.autodesk.com/support/fusion-360/learn-explore/caas/screencast/Main/Details/3afba8d2-6904-40d7-b45f-f2dbf6918176.html
02:00 PM FinboySlick: fragalot: You could always use a file on a piece of depleted uranium and turn your house into a radioactive warzone ;)
02:00 PM Inline: weren't there some chinese zappers too a few years ago, where they tried field trial with crickets ?
02:00 PM Blumax: gloops thank you, all works correctly :)
02:00 PM Inline: heh
02:00 PM gloops: jolly good Blumax :)
02:00 PM Inline: btw it was optimized only for crickets tho i think.....
02:01 PM gloops: Simonious box select>copy..no?
02:01 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: MPG -> mach3 -> arduino -> lcnc :D
02:01 PM miss0r|office2: hackidy hack hack
02:01 PM Simonious: gloops: I think I found a path that'll work, trying it.
02:02 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: i'm especially fond of the arduino intermediary
02:02 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I thought as much :D
02:03 PM gloops: just swigging some of this 'Koppaberg' what the mrs and daughter brought, pear cider with fruit juice - it tastes like kids pop
02:04 PM fragalot: all cider does
02:04 PM * fragalot runs
02:05 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I would normally agree with you, just to get a kick out'a messing with gloops. But I've had some realy nice cider in france, actualy
02:05 PM gloops: well im not a big cider fan anyway, but a lot of young drinks these days are just really sweet with sweet shop flavouring, i dont know how they drink this full time
02:05 PM miss0r|office2: gloops: full time? :D that sounds like someone with issues
02:05 PM gloops: ok - at all then lol
02:05 PM miss0r|office2: :D
02:08 PM gloops: Blumax - forgot to ask - what machine have you made?
02:11 PM Blumax: gloops, here : https://flic.kr/p/XCZGS4
02:11 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I've found this: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/IT-Wireless-USB-Mach3-MPG-Pendant-Handwheel-WHB04-L-for-CNC-Router-Mill-Machine/153168735872?hash=item23a9916e80:g:3ZUAAOSwX3FbGKCX And it seems to be well supported with LinuxCNC.
02:11 PM Blumax: home made from skratch
02:12 PM miss0r|office2: Building a new controller: I think it is a waste to use a wired unit :D
02:12 PM gloops: hey that looks good Blumax, good z drop there
02:13 PM miss0r|office2: Blumax: Damn, you are even more tightly packen than I :D
02:13 PM fragalot: :D
02:13 PM gloops: nice work on the lathe too
02:14 PM miss0r|office2: What lathe?
02:14 PM fragalot: his lathe.
02:14 PM miss0r|office2: well, duh
02:14 PM Tom_L: Blumax, http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-homing.html#cha:homing-configuration
02:14 PM miss0r|office2: I just didn't feel like browsing a million picutres :D
02:15 PM Tom_L: 3.12. If an axis does not have home switches or does not have a logical home position like a rotary axis and you want that axis to home at the current position when the "Home All" button is pressed in Axis the following ini entries for that axis are needed.
02:15 PM gloops: right
02:15 PM gloops: no switch on a rotary
02:15 PM gloops: https://www.flickr.com/photos/mister3dfrance/35804945690/in/photostream/ nice printed parts as well?
02:16 PM Tom_L: i assume his A axis was rotary
02:16 PM Tom_L: just catching up on the log..
02:17 PM gloops: he got it going Tom_L
02:17 PM Tom_L: i see that now :D
02:18 PM gloops: for rotary homing on 2.8 - just 0 everything on the rotary homing and YES
02:19 PM Tom_L: so it's backward on 2.8?
02:19 PM Tom_L: the docs say NO
02:19 PM gloops: err NO, thats right
02:19 PM * Tom_L was ready to call the docs police
02:20 PM gloops: Blumaxs control box - look at that https://www.flickr.com/photos/mister3dfrance/35890327581/in/photostream/
02:20 PM Tom_L: :D
02:21 PM Tom_L: a little fire prevention measures could be in order
02:22 PM miss0r|office2: gloops: which makes me wonder what your control box looks like. You've never posted pictures. If I didn't know better, I'd say you were ashamed to show it ;)
02:22 PM Tom_L: mine's pretty fugly but i show it
02:23 PM miss0r|office2: Tom_L: Are we still talking control boxes here?
02:23 PM Tom_L: yes
02:23 PM miss0r|office2: hehe :)
02:23 PM Tom_L: other parts are adorable :D
02:24 PM miss0r|office2: I better make my controller a goddamn masterpiece after all my statements in here :D
02:24 PM Tom_L: yeah you better
02:24 PM miss0r|office2: if theres a single screw out'a place, fragalot will ride me like the devil :)
02:24 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/encoder/encoder5.jpg
02:24 PM FinboySlick: gloops: You need Sam L Jackson and John Travolta opening that up and seeing a warm glow.
02:24 PM Tom_L: last thing off the mill
02:24 PM Tom_L: upper left
02:24 PM miss0r|office2: Nice
02:25 PM Tom_L: as he should
02:25 PM miss0r|office2: indeed
02:25 PM Tom_L: mine runs like a clock so i'm not about to touch the control blx
02:25 PM Tom_L: box
02:25 PM miss0r|office2: Sure. I get that. :)
02:25 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: you better align the screws as well
02:26 PM miss0r|office2: I just love opening up a clean & properly marked control box - much easier for future work
02:26 PM Tom_L: i've got a 'book' on mine
02:26 PM FinboySlick: gloops: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PEORpjVNJQk
02:26 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: I'll use hex, and bore them out afterwards - No alignment for this guy :D
02:26 PM jdh: mine is clean and unmarked
02:26 PM Tom_L: all colors & connectors marked
02:26 PM miss0r|office2: great :D
02:26 PM jdh: I meant to draw up a wiring diagram but too late now.
02:27 PM miss0r|office2: yeah, now you can't remember what is what
02:27 PM Tom_L: mine changed as i went but i kept updating it
02:27 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: what about the little screw markings on the heads?
02:27 PM Tom_L: now i just gotta figure out which docs are current :)
02:27 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: Screw Sc-0.5.2_3
02:28 PM Blumax: miss0r|office2, Yes I do not have much space :) The machine has a useful area of 838x1425x340mm
02:28 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: If that be the case, I better threadmill everything :D
02:28 PM miss0r|office2: Blumax: That is pretty nice
02:28 PM Blumax: gloops, yes 3D printed part
02:29 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: don't assume the screws are all aligned.
02:29 PM Tom_L: i at least got a decent albeit too small box off ebay
02:29 PM Blumax: In the picture it is a filament extruder for another printer
02:29 PM fragalot: miss0r|office2: so you'll have to make precision washers
02:29 PM miss0r|office2: fragalot: No no, I'll have to make those as well :D
02:29 PM Tom_L: yeah machined... none of that stamped out crap
02:29 PM fragalot: Tom_L: ground!
02:30 PM miss0r|office2: I better call it a night. Tomorrow I have to go work on a horrible horrible horrible machine at a factory that makes those swabs you use to clean your ears with.
02:30 PM Blumax: And I made a 3D printer without dimension limit on one axis https://flic.kr/p/KFbGrw
02:30 PM miss0r|office2: No documentation & "upgrades" made over the last decade with what ever wire was at hand
02:30 PM miss0r|office2: see you around
02:30 PM Tom_L: miss0r at least they don't recycle them
02:30 PM miss0r|office2: hehee
02:30 PM miss0r|office2: Yeah...
02:30 PM * miss0r|office2 out
04:05 PM gregcnc: pink_vampire found you a lathe https://www.instagram.com/p/Bnj1ZUSg5eV/
04:08 PM Deejay: gn8
04:16 PM phipli: Interesting for anyone? https://www.humblebundle.com/books/ui-ux-books
04:21 PM pink_vampire: gregcnc: AWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
04:54 PM _unreal_: sweet my programmer showed up in the mail finally
04:54 PM _unreal_: NOW I have the drive and desire to build my 3 sla7024's
04:54 PM _unreal_: for my home CNC
04:54 PM _unreal_: I cant do any thing with my home one till I have my phase converter chips
04:55 PM _unreal_: and I have the chips I just needed to programthem
04:55 PM _unreal_: o:)
05:07 PM FAalbers: Hello ! What is the best way to export data from Fusion 360 into LinuxCNC ?
05:43 PM nallar is now known as Ross
05:53 PM _unreal_: FAalbers, wish I could help not sure.... I thought fusion has a gcode exporter?
06:55 PM flyback: _unreal_, first thing you should build is a really good heatsink and fan
06:55 PM flyback: STUPID CANUCK
06:55 PM flyback: STUPID CANUCK
06:55 PM flyback: :P
07:31 PM _unreal_: heatsink?
07:31 PM _unreal_: for
07:31 PM _unreal_: ?
07:35 PM flyback: the sla7024's
07:36 PM flyback: I was being silly :)
07:54 PM _unreal_: I'd build the 7026's but I have not gotten my resistors yet
07:54 PM _unreal_: :/
07:54 PM _unreal_: so I can only build the 7024's I do have those resistors
09:03 PM _unreal_: sigh
09:03 PM _unreal_: hello
09:03 PM _unreal_: ?
09:04 PM flyback: hi :)
09:07 PM _unreal_: https://www.amazon.com/abcGoodefg-Microphone-Connector-Chassis-Sockets/dp/B0125YRWKE/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&qid=1536631193&sr=8-1&keywords=cb%2Bham%2B5%2Bpin%2Bmicrophone%2Bchassis%2Bsocket&dpID=51GlBCbDcFL&preST=_SY300_QL70_&dpSrc=srch&th=1
09:07 PM flyback: sadly I think the mind or body is going to go before I get to play wirh that stuff
09:07 PM _unreal_: ?
09:07 PM flyback: the rush move is taking it's toll on me
09:08 PM _unreal_: um
09:08 PM _unreal_: hum
09:08 PM flyback: even my boss offered me a room but it's still taking a lot of stress on me
09:09 PM _unreal_: what are you doing for work these days
09:09 PM flyback: same place I been working for 12 hrs part time
09:09 PM flyback: IT firm
09:09 PM flyback: 12 yrs
09:09 PM flyback: not hrs
09:09 PM _unreal_: kind of what my brother does
09:09 PM _unreal_: he works for a CC company in the analitics IT.....
09:09 PM flyback: grandma died last wed so the house will be sold
09:10 PM _unreal_: Suprised she didnt will it
09:10 PM _unreal_: to you
09:10 PM flyback: she did
09:10 PM flyback: 3 kids
09:10 PM _unreal_: ?
09:10 PM flyback: mom has the controlling interest being the oldest
09:10 PM flyback: but eventually it will still be sold
09:10 PM _unreal_: ahh
09:10 PM _unreal_: always comes back to money
09:11 PM flyback: no it's not really that
09:11 PM flyback: im saying mom could block for as long as I need
09:11 PM flyback: but eventually it has to happen
09:12 PM _unreal_: hum
09:12 PM flyback: my only concern is my shit get damaged more before I finish the data recovery project on stuff I lost 18 yrs ago
09:12 PM flyback: else anything else can be replaced
09:13 PM flyback: we will see
09:13 PM _unreal_: nothing like data recovery...
09:13 PM flyback: ive actually become somewhat of a legend at work
09:13 PM _unreal_: when I moved to FL I think I lost an entire CD trapper keeper filled with DISKS
09:13 PM flyback: on this
09:13 PM flyback: but always scared to touch my own shitt
09:13 PM flyback: I still have one of those
09:14 PM flyback: and they still read
09:14 PM flyback: 20 yrs later
09:14 PM flyback: all the yrs of being a anal basterd
09:14 PM _unreal_: I think I LOST the entire thing off my truck
09:14 PM flyback: only using japan cdr media
09:14 PM flyback: paid off
09:14 PM flyback: also I kept them in a dark bin
09:14 PM _unreal_: I remember catching a few things that flew off my truck but I dont know for how long shit was flying before I caught it
09:14 PM flyback: my dad tossed the box of printouts
09:15 PM _unreal_: schematics?
09:15 PM flyback: no
09:15 PM _unreal_: or print offs
09:15 PM flyback: early email, irc bbs days
09:15 PM flyback: friends I made online etc
09:15 PM _unreal_: ahh
09:15 PM flyback: :/
09:15 PM _unreal_: that bastard
09:15 PM flyback: wasn't on purpose
09:16 PM _unreal_: thats what They all say :)
09:16 PM flyback: speaking of stress, laxative to resolve stressed induced damage is kicking so bbl
09:16 PM _unreal_: ahh..eeee...w.wwww...
09:16 PM pink_vampire: i just came across this cnc machine with integrated 4th axis https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:137084
09:17 PM _unreal_: nifty
09:17 PM _unreal_: Who sell's it :)
10:37 PM flyback: have you seen the harbor freight hack
10:38 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bE8H03_XoKE
10:38 PM CaptHindsight: a cannuck and halfs worth
10:38 PM flyback: $50 mill
10:41 PM flyback: I hate retards who replace the cnc soun ds with some idiot song track no one heard of
10:41 PM flyback: I WANT TO
10:41 PM flyback: STAB
10:41 PM flyback: STAB
10:41 PM flyback: STAB
10:43 PM flyback: Lignum Vitae
10:43 PM flyback: THAT SHIT IS insane
10:43 PM flyback: it's a wood that doesn't rot in water and in fact it reacts with the water to form a lube surface
10:43 PM flyback: they use them in old hydro plants and they run for 50+ yrs
10:44 PM flyback: they do mill them like any other metal part
10:45 PM _unreal_: I cant take it any more I cant stay away
10:45 PM flyback: ?
10:45 PM flyback: sorry did I distract you?
10:46 PM flyback: it's just insane to see this 10 ton monster scary looking mothercanucker hydro turbine steel shaft
10:46 PM flyback: riding on what looks like a grooved 2x4
10:47 PM flyback: they use them for some shaft prop shafts also
10:47 PM flyback: shaft/ship
10:48 PM _unreal_: falling asleep
10:49 PM _unreal_: its midnight later
10:49 PM flyback: oh go slee[
10:49 PM flyback: here too
10:49 PM flyback: pa
10:49 PM CaptHindsight: many many moons ago I heard the story of the cannuckining
11:02 PM pink_vampire: flyback: it is a mini mill,
11:03 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IvUU8joBb1Q
11:05 PM pink_vampire: flyback: it is the old machine, he is about to finish a new one
11:06 PM pink_vampire: flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F6Z-yW4buh0
11:49 PM flyback: I know
11:49 PM flyback: it died long ago