#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 08 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:29 AM fragalot: mornin'
12:33 AM XXCoder: yo
12:47 AM XXCoder: coool https://youtu.be/0QrynzJ_lZ4
12:53 AM XXCoder: interesting video!
12:53 AM XXCoder: channel captions too which is awesome
01:33 AM veek: http://pix.toile-libre.org/upload/original/1536387951.png i was thinking of making some metallurgy videos with that handwriting .. similar to khanacademy.. would that be tolerated
01:33 AM veek: any ideas on making it more interesting
01:34 AM veek: i need some way to illustrate points
01:34 AM XXCoder: its almost as bad as my handwriting
01:36 AM veek: but it's difficult to use a drawing pad..
01:37 AM XXCoder: if you want handwriting theres couple of tricks
01:37 AM XXCoder: put actual paper on your pad, write on it. it should make your writing closer to your normal
01:37 AM XXCoder: it dont work for some kinds of drawing pads but some it does.
01:42 AM veek: ah oo yeah magnetism - thanks lemme try
01:43 AM veek: oh hmm .. won't work on mine
01:43 AM XXCoder: drat oh well
01:43 AM veek: it's not pressure sensitive
01:43 AM XXCoder: my neice has one that detects 256 levels of pressure and could detect pen before it touches surface
01:43 AM veek: what i want is an OCR interface to translate
01:46 AM XXCoder: unfortunately I dont know any decent ocr thats not million bucks
02:03 AM Deejay: moin
02:03 AM XXCoder: hey Deejay
02:04 AM XXCoder: it seems ich died recently, or someone using his account says sp
02:04 AM XXCoder: supposely ich's grandson
02:05 AM * Deejay is skeptical about that
02:05 AM XXCoder: sealive is registered nick so dunno
02:05 AM Deejay: he was the same bad grammar ;)
02:05 AM Deejay: *has
02:05 AM XXCoder: why would he fake his death
02:06 AM Deejay: dunno
02:06 AM XXCoder: theres certainly no freenode life insurance
02:06 AM Deejay: haha
02:06 AM XXCoder: anyway all his videos is gone also
02:06 AM XXCoder: and all other accounts
02:06 AM Deejay: yo, the 'grandson' deleted them
02:07 AM Deejay: at least he said
02:07 AM Deejay: would you do so?
02:07 AM XXCoder: yes, if will said I had to
02:07 AM XXCoder: otherwise not likely.
02:07 AM Deejay: hm
02:08 AM Deejay: if he died: RIP Ich
02:09 AM XXCoder: indeed
02:13 AM veek: heh
02:14 AM XXCoder: ?
02:15 AM XXCoder: ich is or was "old man" in here, been here for years (skipping 2 years he went off as ranger) and have helped countless people here
02:51 AM Deejay: hi pink
02:51 AM XXCoder: wb
02:52 AM pink_vampire: hi Deejay XXCoder
03:30 AM pink_vampire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FtnaqJuJ9kw
03:32 AM XXCoder: looking
03:32 AM XXCoder: isnt that video you shared a bit ago?
03:33 AM pink_vampire: i don't think so
03:34 AM pink_vampire: I have soo meany stuff to do in my house
03:35 AM pink_vampire: it is never end
03:35 AM XXCoder: some stuff really is endless lol
03:46 AM pink_vampire: what do you mean?
03:48 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder:
03:48 AM XXCoder: some tasks keeps renewing itself
03:48 AM XXCoder: like clothes washing
03:48 AM XXCoder: you generate dirty clothes all time so yeah lol
03:49 AM pink_vampire: i wish it was just that
03:51 AM XXCoder: I guess repairs like paint etc
05:01 AM jthornton: morning
05:03 AM XXCoder: hey jt
05:05 AM XXCoder: jthornton: was you here when ich's supposely grandson come in and told that ich is dead?
05:07 AM jthornton: no
05:07 AM XXCoder: apparently he is dead, and all his accounts is closed, and yt videos deleted
05:09 AM jthornton: I wonder why his yt videos are deleted, that doesn't make sense
05:10 AM XXCoder: capt was there so he asked
05:10 AM XXCoder: grandson might reupload it
05:10 AM XXCoder: but I dont know
05:26 AM miss0r: :o
05:26 AM miss0r: Realy?
05:27 AM jthornton: finally getting some cooler weather monday
05:27 AM miss0r: XXCoder: When was this?
05:28 AM XXCoder: today? or yeserday
05:28 AM miss0r: jthornton: We have cold weather here already. Almost starting to miss the hot weather
05:28 AM XXCoder: I wasnt here by time it happened
05:29 AM miss0r: That is sad.
05:29 AM miss0r: Well, he was al old man. if he hadn't been, I would question the source
05:30 AM XXCoder: yeah I had hard time finding ich's video direct, not channel link. it wasnt up so it was deleted
05:30 AM XXCoder: channel is also gone
05:31 AM miss0r: Well. It was nice of whomever that guys was to let us know
05:31 AM miss0r: the phrasing made me think he was a nephew or something
05:31 AM XXCoder: I guess he did die, but same time who knows. I dont think ich is type to fake death
05:31 AM miss0r: yeah, I wouldn't think that of him either
05:31 AM XXCoder: the grammar and spellings is very much similiar to ich's
05:31 AM XXCoder: nobody can fake that
05:32 AM miss0r: hehe
05:32 AM XXCoder: he named channel magig after all
05:32 AM jthornton: deleting accounts sounds like ich did that before he died
05:32 AM XXCoder: unless he left logins and such in will
05:32 AM miss0r: jthornton: On the log this person states that he did it
05:33 AM jthornton: that makes sense
05:33 AM miss0r: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2018-09-07.html search for ich
05:33 AM miss0r: one of the first hits
05:33 AM miss0r: this 'sealive' fellah'
05:34 AM jthornton: Lothar the Onkle How Bild al The School CNC HAS DIED Last 16 august
05:34 AM miss0r: yeah...
05:34 AM miss0r: it does seem a bit sketchy
05:35 AM XXCoder: hes somehow worse than ich
05:35 AM miss0r: but the scattered upper case letters matches that of ich..
05:35 AM Deejay: also the "OFF" at the end
05:35 AM Deejay: its pretty the same
05:36 AM * Deejay is still skeptical about the whole story
05:36 AM miss0r: I must admit. something is a bit off
05:36 AM MarcelineVQ: people should be archiving mrpete's videos, on the subject
05:36 AM MarcelineVQ: he's not getting younger
05:36 AM miss0r: but why delete the youtube account ?
05:37 AM XXCoder: is there auto channel archiver?
05:37 AM miss0r: for youtube you mean?
05:37 AM MarcelineVQ: probably, though it would't be too much work to get youtube-dl to do it for you though I'd expect
05:37 AM XXCoder: yeah
05:38 AM XXCoder: MarcelineVQ: some people upload hundreds of videos
05:38 AM miss0r: I'd gladly supply the storage if someone hands me the tools
05:38 AM XXCoder: bit hard to download one a time
05:38 AM MarcelineVQ: oh no XXCoder, youtube-dl is a cli program
05:38 AM miss0r: I think I have a few TB left on the NAS
05:38 AM MarcelineVQ: you have plenty of options about how to use it and how many to grab at a time
05:38 AM XXCoder: interesting
05:39 AM miss0r: you guys think ich left instructions for someone to come here and tell us?
05:40 AM XXCoder: likely
05:40 AM XXCoder: sealive is registered account
05:40 AM XXCoder: he wouldnt be able to get on as sealive without login
05:40 AM jthornton: I wish the logger had a search function
05:40 AM XXCoder: jthornton: for overall? single page I just use browser search
05:41 AM jthornton: yea like .last seen etc
05:41 AM miss0r: or write a script to have wget download and search through them for you
05:42 AM miss0r: I wouldn't mind asking this 'sealive' a few questions. but I think the best option would be a good english speaking german to do it
05:42 AM jthornton: tom uses this one that I wrote https://github.com/jethornton/JT-Logger
05:42 AM jthornton: yea
05:43 AM miss0r: isn't Loetmichel_ german?
05:43 AM miss0r: or perhaps syyl
05:43 AM jthornton: yep
05:44 AM jthornton: and Deejay is german I think
05:44 AM Deejay: jep
05:44 AM syyl: Deejay is a farmer
05:44 AM Deejay: german farmer!
05:44 AM syyl: ;)
05:44 AM miss0r: :]
05:44 AM * jthornton is a chicken rancher
05:44 AM * XXCoder is a corprate machinist
05:44 AM miss0r: I have him in my log. I seem to remember when people joined / quit they would live a hos adress
05:45 AM miss0r: I don't see that
05:45 AM Deejay: yesterday, there was a guy 'bmger' in a different channel on a different irc network (euirc.net), the told the same story about ich. but he stated he were a different grandson than sealive
05:45 AM Deejay: (and his spelling was that bad, too)
05:45 AM Deejay: (even in german ^^)
05:45 AM miss0r: it smells a bit fishy to me, honnestly
05:46 AM miss0r: we need a german enterogation 101
05:46 AM miss0r: I guess IRC has always been nice for its relative privacy.. but stuff like this makes we wish it was more open, so I could get to the bottom of it
05:48 AM MarcelineVQ: oh, well, that's easy enough. XXCoder, miss0r you can get a recent version of youtube-dl and just give it youtube-dl -f best -citw -v https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCKLIIdKEpjAnn8E76KP7sQg to download mrpete's entire channel
05:49 AM XXCoder: nice, simply dont have space though
05:49 AM MarcelineVQ: The videos are quite large though ehe, I can show you options to get the smaller quality versions, of course then they're smaller forever
05:49 AM Deejay: illegal copy of copyright protected material? ;)
05:50 AM MarcelineVQ: Deejay: prudent archiving of rare material
05:50 AM MarcelineVQ: It's free to view in the first place
05:50 AM miss0r: I wonder how much space it would actualy take up
05:50 AM MarcelineVQ: A lot.
05:50 AM miss0r: I have 2.27TB of free space at the moment
05:51 AM miss0r: But I have no clue what it will amount to
05:51 AM SpeedEvil: MarcelineVQ: that doesn't technically mean you have the right to download and store it. And it's not free if it's monetised.
05:51 AM miss0r: SpeedEvil: We are doing this for the good of mankind.
05:51 AM MarcelineVQ: I'm roughly estimating 485gigs of video space, based on the most recent video
05:51 AM miss0r: If I decide to download it, it will be locked away until something happens to the channel so it is no longer available
05:51 AM SpeedEvil: 640*480 or so may be quite adequate for archiving though.
05:51 AM MarcelineVQ: So it's likely more than that.
05:52 AM pink_vampire: i think youtube can block you for doing that
05:52 AM miss0r: ... I was thinking about upgrading the disks in the nas anyway :)
05:52 AM MarcelineVQ: as another estimation 640 would reduce the filesize by 2/3 or so
05:52 AM XXCoder: there is so many good channels
05:52 AM XXCoder: this tony, myfordboy, clickspring
05:52 AM miss0r: yeah. and we all take youtube for granted
05:52 AM miss0r: AVE :D
05:53 AM miss0r: but, lets be honnest: for the purpose of archiving, he should only take what is educational
05:53 AM XXCoder: AVE ehh
05:53 AM pink_vampire: AVE is legendary
05:53 AM miss0r: XXCoder: That what me removing ave from the list again :)
05:54 AM miss0r: AvE is a modern day poet, but I wouldn't waste too much storage space on it :D
05:54 AM MarcelineVQ: the command for 640 archiving would be youtube-dl -f 'bestvideo[height=480]+bestaudio' -citw -v <channel url>
05:55 AM miss0r: Archiving should be for anyone; I propose this: someone with more knowledge than me, should set up a vote for what channels to be archived. I will take care of the rest
05:55 AM pink_vampire: MarcelineVQ: you need to make youtube to torrent service
05:55 AM MarcelineVQ: that exists in a fashion, it's called bitchute
05:55 AM MarcelineVQ: but there's not a lot of interesting vids on it yet
05:55 AM XXCoder: does youtube-dl download captions?
05:56 AM miss0r: I guess you'd need to add that to the download options
05:56 AM MarcelineVQ: I don't know, I've never had to check if it has a way to grab that metadata
05:56 AM XXCoder: AVE videos captions is nonsense
05:56 AM miss0r: hear hear
05:56 AM MarcelineVQ: it seems to
05:56 AM XXCoder: he must have weird accent or something
05:56 AM MarcelineVQ: https://github.com/rg3/youtube-dl/#subtitle-options
05:56 AM MarcelineVQ: ^ yes
05:56 AM miss0r: MarcelineVQ: What format is it downloading in ?
05:57 AM MarcelineVQ: you can choose the format but when you combine different qualities you tend to end up with an mp4 container
05:57 AM MarcelineVQ: It's entirely customizable
05:58 AM MarcelineVQ: webm and mp4 have been the most common ime
05:58 AM miss0r: if I set out to start archiving this stuff, I don't want to have to do it over. :) I want the right one to begin with
05:58 AM XXCoder: i'm try and get that in it's got a 16 340 receptacle on the backside of her and we were gonna go with the coin sell but then it didnt last for fuck also the best
05:58 AM XXCoder: yeah that totally makes sense
05:58 AM MarcelineVQ: I would just use -f best if you want 'the right one', the qualities youtube has varies per vide, and with video age
05:59 AM MarcelineVQ: You can query what formats a vid has, but you don't want to be doing that 971 times
05:59 AM miss0r: yeah, no kidding :)
05:59 AM miss0r: So is anyone up for constructing a survey, on what to archive?
06:00 AM XXCoder: for me I akready listed 3 channels above heh
06:00 AM XXCoder: download captions also, its probably .001% the total arcive size
06:01 AM miss0r: Yeah. I think I'll "sneak" in a virtual machine on one of the servers in the hosting area, and have that handle the matter :)
06:02 AM miss0r: alright. I have to get gone. People have a way of getting me messed up in some social stuff once in a while.
06:02 AM miss0r: see you around
06:02 AM XXCoder: later
06:06 AM XXCoder: watching new clickspring video. man I love it
06:06 AM XXCoder: this one is payers only for now
06:06 AM pink_vampire: i dont
06:07 AM MarcelineVQ: miss0r: top quality all captions is youtube-dl --write-sub --write-auto-sub --all-subs -f best -citw -v <channel url>
06:09 AM XXCoder: man! old style soldering
06:09 AM XXCoder: ill say nothing more
06:12 AM XXCoder: I'm pareon supporters of few channels, all of em is super awesome
06:14 AM MarcelineVQ: In unrelated news I'm reasonably sure I ran into a mountain lion an hour ago when investigating some ruckus, didn't feel like getting close enough to the growling to confirm visually
06:15 AM XXCoder: nurdrage, kurzgesagt - in a nutshell, isaac arthur, and clickspring
06:21 AM SpeedEvil: MarcelineVQ: always carry an appropriate sized series of boxes, to test if it's a lion, cougar, or housecat.
06:21 AM XXCoder: even if box is way too small any cat will try to get in
06:22 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=q0wQg7ENNIg
06:22 AM MarcelineVQ: SpeedEvil: this is entirely reasonable, it's rather dark at the moment however
06:22 AM MarcelineVQ: So I'd be likely to trip and squish the box into a tray
06:23 AM MarcelineVQ: rabbits like trays I think, maybe I can catch a rabbit
06:27 AM XXCoder: heh if we had infinitely smooth surfaces it could be easily be a trap
06:27 AM XXCoder: no walls nothing falls to cover it
06:27 AM XXCoder: simply cant jump
08:13 AM Loetmichel: miss0r: i AM german. but are about 500km from bavaria, where ichs was/is supposed to live... and dejay lives even further away
09:16 AM fragalot: so.. a 1/2" locline may have been a bit large for the schaublin :D
09:16 AM * fragalot can only crack the ball valve 1/16th of a turn before everything floods
09:24 AM fragalot: miss0r: what coolant do you run? (I'd prefer to get a type that won't rust the shite out of an otherwise tidy machine)
09:25 AM fragalot: based on what i've just pulled out of the filter, I think the previous owner used to run solid bar soap through it
10:50 AM Tom_L: fragalot, http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Rustlick1.jpg
12:29 PM HexaCube: hey folks, I remember being told I should look into stiffening up the frame a bit, what do you folks think now? :P https://i.imgur.com/5nFqqGc.png
12:43 PM fragalot: HexaCube: do that again for the bottom Y and you've got a winner :D
12:44 PM fragalot: Tom_L: is that available in EU? :P
12:46 PM HexaCube: fragalot: yes sir! :D
12:46 PM * fragalot is wondering if he's got a spare clockwork motor lying around he could convert into an oil skimmer
12:46 PM HexaCube: I'm still curious if I should think about filling the voids in the extrusions with... something
12:46 PM fragalot: HexaCube: I wouldn't bother just yet
12:47 PM fragalot: use it as-is first, add damping materials later if needed
12:47 PM HexaCube: I'm still curious about what to use though
12:47 PM fragalot: sand is a common option
12:48 PM HexaCube: also you say dapening, wouldn't using something like, say, concrete also stiffen it up?
12:48 PM CaptHindsight: but I'm using these in the corner :) https://images.homedepot-static.com/productImages/9dff93e0-8ca8-471f-b1d7-127c8034701b/svn/metallics-everbilt-corner-braces-15304-64_1000.jpg
12:48 PM HexaCube: I know about different expansion coefficients, but assuming there isn't a big temperature swing, that could be fine too, no?
12:50 PM fragalot: HexaCube: concrete would turn to powder with vibrations over time anyhow
12:50 PM HexaCube: hmmm, fair enough
12:51 PM HexaCube: i mean from what I've seen, epoxy granite is the shit, but probably waaaaaaaay(!!) overkill :P
12:51 PM HexaCube: also expensive
12:51 PM HexaCube: the reason i ask is the following
12:52 PM HexaCube: I wanna get some larger extrusions for stiffening up the machine bed as you said, like this: https://www.motedis.com/shop/images/product_images/info_images/2911_0.jpg
12:52 PM HexaCube: that's a biiiig void that could be filled :P
12:52 PM fragalot: oh god yea
12:53 PM fragalot: if you go the epoxy granite route: should be fun to fill it; if you go the sand route: should be fun keeping it in
12:53 PM HexaCube: haha
12:53 PM fragalot: if you're going "standard build"... get a better profile
12:53 PM HexaCube: well you could probably cap the ends until whatever you fill in hardens
12:53 PM HexaCube: or keep the caps on if it doesn't
12:54 PM fragalot: can't take the caps off even if it hardens :p
12:54 PM CaptHindsight: https://ibin.co/2eWjnYtOrXq9.jpg
12:54 PM HexaCube: why not, fragalot? O_o
12:54 PM fragalot: because they'll be stuck
12:54 PM HexaCube: hmm, well gotta get the right material for the cap, then :P
12:55 PM HexaCube: i mean melamine works for concrete for instance
12:55 PM HexaCube: but, I'll do some thinking about that
12:55 PM HexaCube: anoooother question
12:55 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight's got a nice presentation or book on machine rigidity
12:56 PM HexaCube: i have been thinking about how to properly seat bearings, regarding the tolerances
12:57 PM HexaCube: the little engineering booklet I have suggests J, H, F, G tolerances iirc
12:57 PM HexaCube: if I want a slight pressfit, would J be appropriate? Like a J7 (+12, -9 µm)
01:01 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.mech.utah.edu/~bamberg/research/PrinciplesOfRapidMachineDesign/Principles%20of%20Rapid%20Machine%20Design.pdf
01:03 PM CaptHindsight: https://e-reports-ext.llnl.gov/pdf/235415.pdf
01:04 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.hindawi.com/journals/jcomp/2013/948745/
01:05 PM tiwake: CaptHindsight: I'm saving that first one
01:10 PM HexaCube: wow that's really in-depth O_O
01:16 PM CaptHindsight: the point is to show you the trade offs and expose you to what really happens
01:18 PM HexaCube: i mean i quite honestly would love to do some more math the see wether or not the machine is rigid enoug but there's so many variables I don't know
01:18 PM HexaCube: so i'm mostly limited to gut feeling, hehe
01:18 PM CaptHindsight: look ~ page 180-ish
01:18 PM tiwake: CaptHindsight: I made a folder called "machine design"
01:19 PM tiwake: CaptHindsight: is there anything else that should go in there?
01:19 PM CaptHindsight: in Principles of Rapid Machine Design by Eberhard Bamberg
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: tiwake: there are lots,
02:00 PM HexaCube: https://i.imgur.com/HrvAd6k.png this should hopefully be stiff enough =) https://i.imgur.com/HrvAd6k.png
02:00 PM HexaCube: oops, double link
02:00 PM HexaCube: I might add another plate at the bottom
02:02 PM gloops: Hexacube is this going to sit on a steel frame?
02:03 PM HexaCube: gloops: i... honestly don't know where it's going to sit yet
02:03 PM HexaCube: I'll probably be making a table for it, too :P
02:03 PM HexaCube: or well, an enclosure rather
02:04 PM HexaCube: wanna do some dust containment and soundproofing
02:04 PM gloops: no triangulation there
02:04 PM HexaCube: what do you mean by that?
02:05 PM gloops: well, whats keeping the rectangle in square?
02:05 PM HexaCube: oh, hmm
02:05 PM HexaCube: well the cross bracings should do that, no?
02:06 PM HexaCube: I just gotta make sure they're all exactly the same length?
02:06 PM gloops: they may, but there is some leverage on them
02:06 PM gloops: suppose it depends how much force there is going to be
02:07 PM HexaCube: not thaaaat much
02:07 PM HexaCube: I wanna do PCBs mostly and occasionally wood and plastic
02:08 PM gloops: my router frame weights over 400kg and bolted to the floor and it still shakes
02:08 PM HexaCube: heh
02:09 PM HexaCube: i don't think you'll be able to make anything that never ever shakes tbh :D
02:09 PM HexaCube: even our machines at work vibrate when taking big cuts heh
02:09 PM HexaCube: and those weigh 25tons :D
02:13 PM gloops: well, if your design does twist, it easily resolved, bolt it to a flat plane or stick some diagonal bracing in
02:14 PM HexaCube: right, that's what I meant with "might add a plate at the bottom" :D
02:14 PM HexaCube: but thanks!
02:15 PM HexaCube: just a few more months of saving up until I can actually start buying parts
02:15 PM HexaCube: *sigh*
02:21 PM gloops: havent you got a welder?
02:22 PM HexaCube: i do, but I can't really weld that well :P
02:23 PM gloops: i mean, these extrusions cost money, you find steel laying around and build the framework for next to nothing
02:23 PM HexaCube: eh, the extrusions aren't thaaat expensive
02:23 PM HexaCube: I can source them quite cheaply in germany
02:23 PM gloops: steel is stronger, stiffer, cheaper
02:23 PM gloops: and importantly, heavier
02:23 PM HexaCube: right, but I really don't think I have the experience for welding a machine frame
02:42 PM Deejay: namd
03:06 PM pink_vampire: HexaCube: look nice
03:16 PM XXCoder: HexaCube: make sure its adjustable with feet
03:16 PM XXCoder: 3d printers basically dont care about being level to gravity, but mills does
03:17 PM Loetmichel: XXCoder: they do???
03:17 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: it's loot like a table top router
03:17 PM pink_vampire: look*
03:17 PM XXCoder: pink_vampire: I know what his design look like
03:17 PM gloops: i cant emphasise enough the need to take inspiration from the great tank designs of the 1940s
03:17 PM MarcelineVQ: it worked for warhammer
03:20 PM gloops: someone in here MarcelineVQ?
03:21 PM MarcelineVQ: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/3/30/Terminus.jpg
03:22 PM MarcelineVQ: https://vignette.wikia.nocookie.net/warhammer40k/images/2/23/LegionBasilisk00.png
03:58 PM pink_vampire: I found something interesting in one of the boxes here..
03:58 PM XXCoder: yeah?
03:59 PM Deejay: gn8
04:26 PM pink_vampire: XXCoder: i found my 3d printer head
04:26 PM XXCoder: ahh yeah I remember your tests on that
04:27 PM pink_vampire: i was fun
04:27 PM pink_vampire: but the prints was slow and never as strong as i want them to be
04:28 PM XXCoder: it takes bit of work to get it work
04:28 PM XXCoder: I never did with my crappy machine. still waiting for better
04:28 PM pink_vampire: in the next 20 years or so..
04:29 PM CaptHindsight: tiwake: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mzWMdZZaHwI&list=PL3D4EECEFAA99D9BE 40 Lectures on Mechanical Engineering
04:29 PM pink_vampire: somewhere some time you will get there..
04:30 PM XXCoder: obsidian printer is taking a while lol
04:31 PM pink_vampire: you have it?
04:32 PM XXCoder: not yet they are still testing and designing
04:34 PM pink_vampire: they say "$99" printer
04:34 PM pink_vampire: but it is without heated bed and LCD
04:34 PM XXCoder: cheapest model yes
04:34 PM XXCoder: mine isnt
04:35 PM CaptHindsight: tiwake: https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/find-by-topic/#cat=engineering&subcat=mechanicalengineering&spec=mechanicaldesign
04:35 PM pink_vampire: what model you have?
04:38 PM pink_vampire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XLX0bsRJGa0
04:38 PM CaptHindsight: rebuilt my starter 7 years ago (120K miles) now the contacts are almost gone
04:38 PM CaptHindsight: cheap copper
04:40 PM XXCoder: pink_vampire: max. lol
04:40 PM pink_vampire: what is "max"?
04:40 PM XXCoder: the top model
04:41 PM pink_vampire: of what 3d printer?
04:41 PM XXCoder: obsidian
04:41 PM pink_vampire: ho. so you all ready have it
04:41 PM pink_vampire: already*
04:42 PM XXCoder: there is lowest model $99 med and top model. nah they are still designing it
04:42 PM XXCoder: they will send me one, evenually
04:42 PM pink_vampire: i remember you print some blue parts
04:43 PM XXCoder: yeah that was chinese crap one
04:43 PM XXCoder: wasnt able to get it to work well
04:43 PM pink_vampire: why?
04:44 PM XXCoder: I'm not very good on adjusting machine apparently lol
04:47 PM pink_vampire: but it you have the printer and you make usable parts with it, i think it's good
04:48 PM XXCoder: yeah it was much trouble just making those though
04:48 PM XXCoder: I might make plotter out of shit 3d printer parts though.
04:49 PM pink_vampire: what was the problems?
04:50 PM XXCoder: lots really, extruder didnt properly work, hotend keeps either losing temperate or overheat
04:52 PM pink_vampire: "hotend keeps either losing temperate or overheat" - easy to fix
04:53 PM pink_vampire: i made an arduino pid temperature controller with 1 transistor
04:54 PM XXCoder: my printer has a onboard controller for temperate
04:55 PM XXCoder: I replaced temperate sensor it got better but still iffy
04:55 PM pink_vampire: what is the printer controller?
04:56 PM XXCoder: not too sure on what its name is lol
04:56 PM XXCoder: it controls 5 steppers temperate as well as have 2 temperate sensors
04:56 PM pink_vampire: ramps?
04:57 PM XXCoder: yeah
04:58 PM pink_vampire: try to update the firmware version
04:58 PM XXCoder: did that also
04:59 PM pink_vampire: try to investigate it with arduino and serial
05:14 PM XXCoder: nah not that good with electrics
05:15 PM XXCoder: I wanted a machine thats more user friendly
05:20 PM pink_vampire: i found my first linux cnc "cuts" with a pen
05:36 PM XXCoder: nice
05:44 PM pink_vampire: there is too much stuff here
06:46 PM gonzo_- is now known as gonzo_
10:35 PM _unreal_: That was weird, xchat froze on me
10:36 PM _unreal_: I couldnt type IF my mouse was over xchat
10:36 PM infornography: how do you do the sasl with xchat?
10:36 PM XXCoder: weird
10:36 PM _unreal_: ? then again I have not rebooted in 42 days
10:36 PM XXCoder: maybe xchats afraid of mouse
10:36 PM _unreal_: sasl?
10:37 PM XXCoder: 20:36:19 up 85 days, 17:05, 1 user, load average: 2.21, 2.03, 2.04
10:37 PM Tom_L: http://freenode.net/kb/answer/sasl
10:37 PM _unreal_: nice
10:37 PM _unreal_: my cubox I had an uptime of 437 days once
10:37 PM _unreal_: went down when we lost power last year during the hurricain
10:38 PM infornography: xchat isnt on there tho
10:38 PM _unreal_: ok so I've been working on my main box today
10:38 PM XXCoder: yeah, though hardly record, one of teachers I had had one unix pc thats been up so long they lost it
10:38 PM _unreal_: got most of the hardware mounted
10:38 PM XXCoder: its still running, just can't find it
10:38 PM infornography: I didn't see an option for sasl in xchat
10:38 PM Tom_L: 22:38:25 up 75 days, 8:54, 1 user, load average: 0.00, 0.00, 0.00
10:38 PM _unreal_: cant find it?
10:38 PM Tom_L: mine must have restarted when the cable guy came
10:38 PM XXCoder: it had one of fans die so it was warning on failure so they had to fix it
10:39 PM Tom_L: it was over 300
10:39 PM XXCoder: but they couldnt find it
10:39 PM XXCoder: they evenually found it, it was inside void inside wall
10:39 PM _unreal_: ?
10:39 PM _unreal_: huh
10:39 PM XXCoder: apparently there was revotation couple years before that, and they couldnt move server
10:39 PM XXCoder: its uptime was at over 10 years
10:39 PM _unreal_: heh
10:40 PM Tom_L: infornography use hexchat
10:40 PM Tom_L: same basic thing
10:40 PM XXCoder: yeah I recommand hexchat also, compitable in most case to xchat stuff
10:40 PM Tom_L: same codebase
10:41 PM infornography: Yeah Im using hexchat, but Xchat was what was installed on the linuxcnc box, I tryed to come here and kept getting booted
10:41 PM _unreal_: so I got all my brackets in the box riveted, got my 3 psu's mounted, 2 36v one 12v
10:41 PM _unreal_: got my motor drivers plate done mounted and the 4 motors mounted
10:42 PM _unreal_: infornography, booted?
10:42 PM _unreal_: were you logged in with a registered nick?
10:42 PM infornography: yeah, the server wouldn't let me join
10:42 PM _unreal_: oh where you logged in as root?
10:43 PM _unreal_: a lot of servers wont let you join if your running a ROOT machine
10:43 PM infornography: huh, maybe
10:51 PM pink_vampire: irc..
10:55 PM pink_vampire: i need ideas for storage solutions for my small space
10:56 PM Tom_itx is now known as Guest64656
10:57 PM infornography: what kinda stuff are you storing?
10:57 PM pink_vampire: infornography: all tne small stuff that make the shop a mess
11:06 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, I keep a 55 gallon storage organizer for that stuff
11:06 PM pink_vampire: LOL
11:06 PM XXCoder: pink_vampire: $660 huge tool cart at costco
11:06 PM pink_vampire: my spindle pump just DIE!
11:07 PM _unreal_: are you asking it to or stating an event?
11:07 PM XXCoder: theres nicer steel wood top tool cart for cheaper $450 something? also costco, only some of em has em so ask around
11:08 PM XXCoder: or maye harbor freight. $100 ones work though can feel very cheap
11:09 PM pink_vampire: there is in pink !
11:09 PM pink_vampire: https://i5.walmartimages.com/asr/6bc1847f-a4f5-446d-b0e8-9f74fee5f8a0_1.625079d15fc48acfd866132c1fbe09fd.jpeg?odnHeight=450&odnWidth=450&odnBg=FFFFFF
11:09 PM infornography: https://www.amazon.com/Homak-Plastic-Bins-Small-HA01080643/dp/B004DFOHGQ
11:09 PM XXCoder: fall part in 2 months
11:10 PM XXCoder: info's link is a lot more strudy
11:11 PM pink_vampire: infornography: you need somewhere to put them on
11:11 PM XXCoder: honestly get a tool cart
11:11 PM XXCoder: its worth it
11:11 PM infornography: I hang them on the wall
11:11 PM XXCoder: get one with lots shallow drawers and few deep ones
11:11 PM pink_vampire: i have a cart for the lathe
11:12 PM _unreal_: been wondering where did you come up with the name pink_vampire ?
11:13 PM XXCoder: ah now thats saga worthy of gods
11:13 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: XXCoder is the mind behind my nick
11:13 PM _unreal_: ?
11:14 PM pink_vampire: i had other nick and all the time i show here pink items and nails
11:15 PM pink_vampire: so he called me pink vampire because i was 24/7 here
11:15 PM _unreal_: nifty
11:15 PM pink_vampire: so i made it my nick
11:15 PM _unreal_: ya I got mine from the GAME
11:16 PM _unreal_: 20 years ago when unreal came out. I wanted a copy bad..... went on an irc/warez site and used this nic begging/looking for the game. found someone to burn me a copy...
11:16 PM _unreal_: HELL I still have that original copy somwhere :)
11:16 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/lKphE9m.png
11:16 PM pink_vampire: for example
11:16 PM XXCoder: mines last nick i had in aol before I managed to get myself banned from aol
11:16 PM XXCoder: aol sucks
11:16 PM _unreal_: touch probe
11:16 PM _unreal_: touch probe IN pink
11:16 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/9jojaKt.png
11:17 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: correct
11:17 PM pink_vampire: and guess what it that https://i.imgur.com/XHqFWbw.png
11:18 PM pink_vampire: https://i.imgur.com/LaR68O7.png
11:18 PM XXCoder: ring of DOOOOOOOOM
11:19 PM _unreal_: arg.... I'm starting to suffer from nodding of doom
11:19 PM _unreal_: so tired
11:19 PM pink_vampire: i'm curious to see if _unreal_ will find why i did it.
11:19 PM _unreal_: did what?
11:19 PM XXCoder: lol
11:19 PM pink_vampire: the led rings
11:20 PM pink_vampire: 18 of them
11:20 PM pink_vampire: a hint https://i.imgur.com/mlHsUxY.png
11:20 PM _unreal_: christmas stuff?
11:21 PM _unreal_: no idea
11:21 PM pink_vampire: https://imgur.com/a/c7XuH
11:21 PM pink_vampire: this is why
11:23 PM pink_vampire: and just about a week ago i did the integration with Linux CNC
11:24 PM pink_vampire: (it as design originally for mach3)
11:25 PM _unreal_: signal lights?
11:26 PM _unreal_: running finished, error?
11:26 PM pink_vampire: and 3 more options
11:27 PM pink_vampire: and buzzer with melody and beeps
11:28 PM _unreal_: nifty.....
11:28 PM _unreal_: I havent gotten that far with my cnc build yet :(
11:28 PM pink_vampire: we need to move to discord or something so we can have chat room, and projects room so it will be easy to show stuff and talk
11:29 PM Tom_L: no we don't
11:29 PM _unreal_: I spend at least 2 hours today out in the garauge using my little drill press with the XY table drilling holes
11:29 PM Tom_L: that's what imagebin and youtube are for
11:29 PM pink_vampire: but it is not intuitive,
11:30 PM Tom_L: if you keep encouraging it you will just wind up with a split
11:30 PM Tom_L: happened in another channel and now both are crap
11:31 PM Tom_L: i'd encourage you to let it go, i've been at this since the early 90's or before
11:31 PM _unreal_: ditto
11:31 PM _unreal_: well maybe not that far back
11:32 PM _unreal_: I didnt get on IRC till I got my own phone line
11:32 PM _unreal_: late 90's
11:33 PM Tom_L: prior i was on bbs, source and i forget the other one...
11:33 PM Tom_L: compuserv
11:33 PM Tom_L: starting at 300 baud :)
11:34 PM Tom_L: which was boreing because you can read faster than the txt comes in
11:36 PM _unreal_: I'll never forget the OMG when I got my first 56k modem
11:36 PM _unreal_: when from a 28.8 to a 56k
11:36 PM _unreal_: I mean DAMN.....
11:36 PM Tom_L: went from 300 to 1200 to 2400 to 28.8 to 56
11:36 PM pink_vampire: but the problem with irc is there is no comfortable way to see what is going on, and you MUST move all the time to other services for posting videos and images, this is for example the "mechanical keyboard server in discord" https://i.imgur.com/zVGgcL7.png
11:37 PM pink_vampire: everything look soo clear and easy
11:37 PM Tom_L: but like xx said, it's on a single server that could go at any time
11:38 PM Tom_L: i may not decide to click on everything that comes at me either
11:38 PM pink_vampire: also the irc
11:38 PM Tom_L: and some here have limited bandwith and may not want all the graphics
11:38 PM pink_vampire: and the same as irc you can add bots to discord
11:39 PM pink_vampire: you can disable the graphics if you want to
11:39 PM pink_vampire: i'm with a 3g phone and it's work fine
11:43 PM pink_vampire: i understand that linux cnc have an irc because it was like that 1 yeas ago, but all the young people are in discord and other services like it, and they use their phones most of the time.
11:44 PM _unreal_: thats because to many people toss old stuff for new and never let there kids try the old stuff :( sad
11:45 PM pink_vampire: the only reason my computer is on right now is for the IRC
11:45 PM Tom_L: winter will come soon enough and you can use it for heat as well then
11:45 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: i was grow up with irc, and cgi chat rooms
11:49 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: more then 80% of the conversations that i'm doing those days are through whatsapp, the other is with discord.
11:50 PM pink_vampire: it took me 0 effort to send a picture in whatsapp, hit the camera icon, click, done,
11:51 PM pink_vampire: with irc you need to take the picture, connect the phone with a cable to the computer, copy the image, upload it to imgur, copy the url to the irc.
11:51 PM pink_vampire: this is pure waste of time
11:51 PM _unreal_: blaaaa Hate whatsapp, my Xwife always calls at the worng time to talke to are daughter and only on the weekend
11:52 PM _unreal_: btw the POS lost custody to me
11:52 PM _unreal_: heh
11:53 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, you can plug your phone into your computer and treat it like a DRIVE
11:53 PM _unreal_: direct access to the image.
11:53 PM pink_vampire: i want an camera icon, click done
11:54 PM _unreal_: also you can post photos on image page bins with just a console command
11:54 PM MarcelineVQ: any phone that can run whatsapp can also upload to your pc wirelessly if you're in range
11:54 PM _unreal_: :p
11:54 PM MarcelineVQ: *automatically upload
11:54 PM XXCoder: wireless. there you go :)
11:54 PM _unreal_: MarcelineVQ, yarp
11:54 PM pink_vampire: the "uploading" part is the problem, i don't want to be next to my computer
11:55 PM MarcelineVQ: I'd be pretty surprised if there wasn't an app that takes pictures right to an imagesharing service as well and gives you a tinyurl sort of link
11:56 PM pink_vampire: MarcelineVQ: the problem with irc is simple. if you lose connection is gone.
11:56 PM pink_vampire: and the only way to use it properly is with a computer.
11:57 PM _unreal_: pink_vampire, I dont loose anything
11:57 PM _unreal_: I close irc/reboot and start it up
11:58 PM pink_vampire: _unreal_: it is stupid
11:58 PM _unreal_: if I go into rooms I've been in before everything that was posted before I left is still there. not new content but thats besides
11:58 PM pink_vampire: why not just to get the old massages??
11:58 PM _unreal_: What I'm saying it it keeps an active log
11:59 PM pink_vampire: look https://i.imgur.com/vWYhT90.png
11:59 PM _unreal_: so if I left the room right now. anything typed after I leave I miss.... but everything I was there for is still on the display in a LOG
11:59 PM XXCoder: megapastor :P
11:59 PM Tom_L: hexchat retains what you saw last too