#linuxcnc Logs

Aug 24 2018

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:05 AM CaptHindsight: the original settlers used wood and animal skins
12:08 AM CaptHindsight: Jamestown used http://www.earthhomesnow.com/wattle-daub-homes.htm
12:09 AM CaptHindsight: http://people.ucls.uchicago.edu/~snekros/2007-8%20webquests/Structures%2089/big-teepee-photo.jpg
12:09 AM CaptHindsight: ^^ actual 16th century photo
12:18 AM Wolf__: I’ve been wondering, I see all these cnc plasma builds with hypertherm machine torches, yet not a single one uses the gear rack that it comes with for torch height adjustment, why is that?
12:19 AM CaptHindsight: what do they use instead?
12:19 AM CaptHindsight: never looked
12:19 AM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: IF that's a 16th centruy photo, why does the side of the TeePee say "Made In China" ???
12:20 AM Wolf__: usually the torch is clamped to a gantry plate
12:20 AM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: they bought it at a market in China before crossing over through Alaska, duh
12:21 AM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: Ah, gotcha
12:21 AM Wolf__: CaptHindsight: https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Xk8fBovbyFU/maxresdefault.jpg like this
12:22 AM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: back then the Ocean was lower or the Islands higher, forget which...
12:23 AM CaptHindsight: anyway, they would cross during the winters to get away from the crowded beaches
12:23 AM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: Damn tourists
12:23 AM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: spring break and all that
12:24 AM CaptHindsight: they traveled all the way to the sothern tip of South America and then decided to go back north where the weather was better
12:25 AM CaptHindsight: they survived by eating a diet of mostly large insects and beer
12:26 AM CaptHindsight: that is why most central American countries are full of insects
12:28 AM CaptHindsight: they were also waiting for Columbus to arrive from Portugal
12:28 AM CaptHindsight: to prove that the trip is shorter by sailing over the Atlantic than walking from China
12:29 AM fragalot: it certainly is if you measure it in walking distance
12:30 AM fragalot: unless if you're a rigger on the boat
12:31 AM CaptHindsight: Magellan was the first to prove that you could sail around the world and not fall off, insuring that air travel would be possible
12:31 AM fragalot: how is that related to air travel?
12:32 AM CaptHindsight: ships stick to the water
12:32 AM CaptHindsight: airplanes don't stick to water
12:33 AM CaptHindsight: if they had tried to fly to the edge of the earth there would have been nothing to hold the planes, so they could fall off
12:33 AM Wolf__: well this is somewhat interesting, wonder how well it works https://www.makerstore.com.au/blog/v-slot-the-ox-cnc-machine-and-the-everman-belt-drive-system/
12:36 AM CaptHindsight: another option is rack and pinion with a drive and slave servo
12:37 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.servotak.eu/products/custom-products/zero-backlash-rack-pinion-gearbox-systems
12:37 AM Wolf__: looking to keep this at stupidly simple level of build
12:39 AM fragalot: Wolf__: that V-slot method is /THE/ simplest low backlash build, aside from ballscrew
12:41 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20180823_225830.jpg
12:42 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20180823_225905.jpg
12:42 AM fragalot: needs more cowbell
12:42 AM CaptHindsight: skunkworks: have a pic of the machine before teardown?
12:42 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/GreenMachine.JPG
12:44 AM Wolf__: nice… only seller that comes up on ebay is open builds for the 3gt belt @ almost $4 per foot
12:44 AM Wolf__: US seller *
12:50 AM Wolf__: not doing ball screw on a 1.5m travel machine
12:51 AM CaptHindsight: https://postimg.cc/image/6hxl59o2j/
12:52 AM Wolf__: lol
12:52 AM Wolf__: that ball screw weighs probably 2x what this whole cnc plasma thing is going to when its done
12:54 AM fragalot: Wolf__: you could do what roland did on my engraver and use alu pulleys with steel wire wrapped around them to do the motino
12:54 AM fragalot: :P
12:55 AM Wolf__: yeah, capstan winch drive
12:55 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.automation-overstock.com/categories.asp?cat=11
12:55 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.automation-overstock.com/products.asp?cat=203
12:56 AM CaptHindsight: $312 for a 32mm x 10mm lead 1.5m rolled ballscrew
12:56 AM Wolf__: on a 20mm x 80mm extruded frame machine? lol
12:57 AM Wolf__: err 40mm x 80mm (i think)
12:57 AM CaptHindsight: the screw will keep the frame stable
12:57 AM fragalot: Right, i'm off to work
12:57 AM fragalot: ttyl
12:57 AM Wolf__: hehe
12:58 AM fragalot: Wolf__: skip the frame, go with pure ballscrew
12:59 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.automation-overstock.com/products.asp?cat=190
12:59 AM Wolf__: I think I’ll just go with GT2 belt for the start, if the thing sucks ass at cutting circles then I’ll find a plan B
01:03 AM Wolf__: thanks for that link I’ll keep that in mind
01:04 AM CaptHindsight: or go big https://www.ebay.com/itm/Parker-802-1716F-Linear-Positioner-Extended-Carriage-3-5m-Travel-1600N-Load-HLE/352080681098
01:05 AM Wolf__: that would be perfect if I was doing a 5’x10’ plasma table
01:06 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/REXROTH-STAR-LINEAR-STAGE-ACTUATOR-BELT-DRIVEN-TRAVEL-54-CODE-SL-112/263697200542
01:07 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/PARKER-HLE80RB-801-9127-01-LINEAR-ACTUATOR-BELT-DRIVEN-STAGE-TRAVEL-48/352358622056
01:08 AM Wolf__: neat stuff, but my openbuilds crap will be here in 2 days
01:09 AM Wolf__: at least if the plasma build totally fails, I can use it to build another 3d printer lol
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.amacoil.com/rolling-ring-animation.html
01:18 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.nexengroup.com/
01:22 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FjmfJlkLNH0
01:25 AM Wolf__: yeah not a new idea for sure, seen a few open build things with similar drive
01:34 AM miss0r: I'm not sure I like that design
01:37 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xh-AUPAWbPc
01:38 AM CaptHindsight: https://youtu.be/TPCgbfWZ6IQ?t=20s
01:42 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xdSIye-JRNA chain drive cnc plasma table
01:43 AM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0MHl2N8viKc Chain drive on Mechmate
01:47 AM fragalot: Right, i'm at work now, so i'm expecting a call from Shenker complaining nobody is home any time now
01:54 AM CaptHindsight: if you miss them today then they will return next day there is a heavy downpur
01:55 AM CaptHindsight: downpour
01:57 AM fragalot: tomorrow is saturday, so they won't return until monday
01:57 AM fragalot: and the downpour is supposed to happen overnight :)
02:02 AM CaptHindsight: any planned street cleaning, road paving, sewer work due next week?
02:03 AM Deejay: moin
02:04 AM CaptHindsight: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/81/10/57/81105769f4a723bd40e6d2248f24b93c.jpg how do you drive on those streets anyway?
02:22 AM miss0r: You just know what kind of day it is going to be... https://imgur.com/a/YCCj1NM
02:27 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: I am 99% sure that when they deliver, the gravel road I need is going to be rototilled
02:28 AM miss0r: also, they already delievered it now. and rain is comming
03:05 AM CaptHindsight: https://imgur.com/gallery/60HW4dR Amsterdam tis a silly place
03:27 AM syyl_: ohmy
03:27 AM syyl_: looks almost like they commute by boat/ship ;)
03:31 AM fragalot: some do
03:33 AM fragalot: still no word from schenker.
03:37 AM veek: they should condense all that traffik into one giant oil tanker panamax
03:39 AM syyl_: everybody should go by pedal boat :D
04:15 AM XXCoder: heys
04:47 AM jthornton: morning
04:48 AM XXCoder: hey jthornton
04:48 AM XXCoder: rememeber that worker? hes as okay as he can be with that ingury
04:48 AM XXCoder: he went to surgeons twice so far to sew stuff up
04:50 AM jthornton: good
04:51 AM XXCoder: cnc machine was locked out
04:51 AM XXCoder: when i started worked boss come in to machine, unlocked it powered it on, then removed tools and fixture, making sure he doesnt touch anything without wiping
04:51 AM XXCoder: then locked it off again
05:00 AM jthornton: what was he wiping?
05:01 AM XXCoder: tools and jaws
05:01 AM XXCoder: I guess they plan to move it to other robo
05:01 AM fragalot: removing evidence
05:01 AM fragalot: :P
05:01 AM XXCoder: we got 4 robos but 2 cant be used outside one specal part
05:01 AM XXCoder: shh
05:07 AM XXCoder: I wonder how long before they break down the special part 2 robos
05:08 AM XXCoder: its been a while since we last ran it
05:28 AM Tom_L: 76F Hi 94
05:29 AM XXCoder: 58f 80
05:29 AM XXCoder: peaks at 68f
05:32 AM jthornton: heat not here yet high of 82f today
05:32 AM XXCoder: high humidity but no rain whole weekend it seems
05:33 AM XXCoder: I really hope it rains HARD
05:33 AM XXCoder: smokes still around but much less than last 2 days
05:33 AM XXCoder: I didnt wear a mask yayy
05:48 AM jthornton: how I learned to love the bomb or install debian 9 a million times
05:48 AM jthornton: that's gotta suck to have to wear a mask all night
05:49 AM XXCoder: 11 hours
05:49 AM XXCoder: lots of fun. plus I couldnt cool my room by outside air so it was bit hot
05:59 AM jthornton: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/27-driver-boards/35041-7i96-configuration-tool
05:59 AM jthornton: thats the program I've been working on
07:18 AM ktchk: Can I use a step/dir spindle motor with 1 index signal to turn threads on a lathe?
07:22 AM jthornton: IIRC it's somewhat possible but not recommended
07:24 AM ktchk: The motor is 20Nm 3phase stepper
07:42 AM * fragalot_ is fairly confident that Schenker has misplaced his new schaublin
07:46 AM * jthornton quits putzing about on this program and wanders off to the shower
07:50 AM fragalot_: just got an email - they found it :-)
08:36 AM JT-Shop: what did they find?
08:50 AM fragalot_: JT-Shop: my schaublin 13 that I ordered
09:07 AM JT-Shop: that's pretty big to get lost lol
09:25 AM Loetmichel: *gnhihihi* just unpacked a 10 set of 350mm by 100mm by 60mm Alu heatsinks with a 12mm thick "backplate", rest fins... laid it on the CNC mill table: They have a "bow" in the middle 1mm high. All 10. So i thought: "no problem, i'll just lay something under the sides and jump on it with my 123kg... Effect: ZERO... had to mill them down 1mm deep to get the back flat :-(
09:50 AM skunkworks: Tom_L: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20180823_225830.jpg
09:53 AM CaptHindsight: Loetmichel: it was really common to get heatsink extrusions with that much bow or more
09:54 AM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20180823_225905.jpg
09:54 AM skunkworks: now to use the cmm (K&T) ;) to check for squareness
10:00 AM skunkworks: CaptHindsight: the matsuura still works.. Used it to make the 2 mating surfaces parallel
10:14 AM Loetmichel: CaptHindsight: i know that ANY aluminium extrusion is usually bowed. and usually in ANY direction possible
10:29 AM gregcnc: i'm shopping for a new car http://www.thedrive.com/news/23102/kalashnikov-debuts-cv-1-electric-vehicle-concept
10:55 AM hazzy-lab is now known as hazzy
11:04 AM MarcelineVQ: What should I do with a bunch of garden grown tomatos? Something that isn't soup
11:05 AM SpeedEvil: pizza.
11:05 AM MarcelineVQ: heh :> I guess yeah, some sauce
11:05 AM Todd_Z: salsa
11:06 AM SpeedEvil: Feed them to pigs, get 1/10th of the caloric equivalent as pork.
11:07 AM MarcelineVQ: I do like pork, it's a little nicer to put the tomato on the ham than in the ham though
11:08 AM SpeedEvil: If you put the tomato on the pig, it will roll off, and it will eat it anyway.
11:09 AM MarcelineVQ: This explains the issues I've been having
11:09 AM fragalot: MarcelineVQ: salsa
11:09 AM fragalot: ketchup
11:09 AM fragalot: food fight
11:13 AM gregcnc: a proper sandwich https://imgur.com/a/3NzamY3
11:13 AM jdh: caprese
11:14 AM MarcelineVQ: :D
11:14 AM pcw_home: spaghetti sauce
11:16 AM MarcelineVQ: Everyone always wants to mash their tomatoes, I feel for the little guys
11:16 AM pcw_home: Is slicing better?
11:16 AM fragalot: pcw_home: in most kitchens with the state their knives are in it's the same thin
11:16 AM fragalot: g
11:18 AM MarcelineVQ: around here we let them roam, or put them on the treadmill, keeps them in shape, mostly round. when they've had a nice full life we find people we don't liek and throw the tomatos at them, it's a more dignified way to go out.
11:18 AM pcw_home: :-) I always have to sharpen knives to slice ripe tomatoes
11:19 AM fragalot: I just keep mine sharp enough to begin with
11:19 AM fragalot: a bit obsessively so, thinking about it
11:19 AM fragalot: :/
11:20 AM pcw_home: Its not tomatoes we have a overabundance now of but green beans, been eating them every day
11:20 AM gregcnc: everyone here likes to cut things on plates
11:20 AM roycroft: sharp knives are safe knives
11:20 AM MarcelineVQ: The deer ate all my green beans. Criminally, the deer isn't big enough to bother earting.
11:20 AM MarcelineVQ: gregcnc: :O
11:21 AM pcw_home: we never grew scarlet runner beans before, and the are incredibly productive
11:21 AM gregcnc: my parents have a woodchuck this year devoruing brocolli
11:21 AM pcw_home: we have a 6 foot fence (for deer and our sheep)
11:21 AM jelly-home is now known as jelly
11:21 AM MarcelineVQ: Growing eggplant for the first time here this year, no idea if we like it but why not
11:22 AM MarcelineVQ: It's not like you can buy a veg at the grocer and know if you like it for not since half of them ship in green or treated for color
11:22 AM MarcelineVQ: *like it or not
11:22 AM pcw_home: Its not hot enough here for standard eggplant but the Japanese style do well and we like them
11:23 AM MarcelineVQ: what style is that?
11:26 AM pcw_home: long skinny type
11:26 AM pcw_home: purple
11:26 AM MarcelineVQ: oh okay, ours are fairly short and round
11:26 AM gregcnc: yeah i grew up eating garden fresh tomato. i have not ever had a store bought tomato I liked.
11:26 AM pcw_home: Yeah really no comparison
11:26 AM MarcelineVQ: better to eat canned tomato than grocer aisle
11:38 AM jdh: I like them tossed in olive oil, salt, pepper, then roasted
12:00 PM JT-Shop: bah the BP 308 coolant tank needs cleaning too
01:09 PM Tom_L: skunkworks, lookin good
01:23 PM skunkworks: Tom_L: so far so good
01:25 PM skunkworks: I have to make fried green tomatoes atleast once a season
01:28 PM fragalot: miss0r: do you happen to know of a (publicly accessible) shop that sells reference squares?
01:33 PM fragalot: I guess I could make my own using 4 large ground pins to check it
01:41 PM fragalot: cutwel sells nice granite ones but is UK only >.>
02:17 PM skunkworks: I use a framing square
02:17 PM skunkworks: (only partially kidding..)
02:17 PM fragalot: perfectly acceptable if it's been calibrated
02:18 PM fragalot: i'm using a stainless DIN875/0 square at the moment
02:18 PM fragalot: about 300mm long, so.. 11µm over it's full length
02:19 PM fragalot: the granite one i've just found should be within 5µm
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.asiga.com/products/printers/pico2/
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: 1um Z positioning, made me chuckle
02:37 PM CaptHindsight: why would a jeweler need 25um res for molds?
02:38 PM XXCoder: its not just for jewels
02:38 PM XXCoder: theres ear molds and tootjh
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: I'm just talkin about jewels
02:38 PM CaptHindsight: not udder stuff
02:38 PM XXCoder: .00005" apparently
02:39 PM XXCoder: er .0004"
02:39 PM CaptHindsight: 25.4um = .001"
02:40 PM CaptHindsight: size 10 shoes are all over the place
02:45 PM XXCoder: some computer junk seller in wisc want to have professional connection to me, in washington, and we never met
02:45 PM XXCoder: okkay no
02:45 PM XXCoder: some people on linkedin lol
02:46 PM CaptHindsight: it's become a business Facebook
02:46 PM XXCoder: yeah "friend hoarder" on fb and now "connectors hoarder" on linked in
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: M$ acquired them a few years ago
02:47 PM gregcnc: was there a time it wasn't? I never understood the concept
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: they are sure to remind you of your contacts birthdays as well
02:47 PM XXCoder: its site to set professional networking
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: Hi Mike, rember me I bough that shipment of coal from you 2 years ago, Happy Birthday!!
02:48 PM gregcnc: ok so you don't post pics of you binge drinking, but otherwise?
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: you don't?!
02:48 PM gregcnc: I suppose if you're trying to get a job?
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: I limit my contacts to bartenders
02:49 PM CaptHindsight: https://theoutline.com/post/5495/how-to-beat-linked-in-the-game
02:49 PM CaptHindsight: found it amusing
02:51 PM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: kinda like russia mob
02:51 PM XXCoder: all need to do is get intro to one person, can work up and to everyone
02:53 PM XXCoder: man that page you linked to.. LOL
02:53 PM gregcnc: that's my basic understanding of it
03:00 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.inc.com/john-nemo/want-to-game-linkedin-heres-the-cheat-code.html
03:00 PM CaptHindsight: from the founder of Linkedin, it really is a game
03:34 PM skunkworks: pallet changing still works on the K&T
03:43 PM Deejay: gn8
03:54 PM gregcnc: wtf? https://youtu.be/6uMf-WJDZQQ?t=19m31s
03:54 PM gregcnc: lathing level expert
03:56 PM skunkworks: I do that all the time..
03:57 PM skunkworks: he could run it a bit faster cutting aluminum...
03:57 PM skunkworks: ;)
04:01 PM jdh: That's a helluva tool holder
04:14 PM methods_: tesla lulz
04:14 PM methods_: https://twitter.com/atomicthumbs/status/1032939617404645376
04:18 PM CaptHindsight: I can't imagine working there, must be awful
05:00 PM XXCoder: yay
05:00 PM XXCoder: washer is chugging now!
05:00 PM SpeedEvil: :)
05:00 PM XXCoder: it didnt work initially, no motor nothing, but water fill worked
05:00 PM XXCoder: confused us
05:01 PM XXCoder: but its one connector we missed lol it goes to motor
05:04 PM _unreal_: What do you guys think is better if using a router to mill aluminum. a MYST spray system or a flood style spray system? https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B071DXGGP4/ref=ox_sc_act_title_2?smid=ARQMKXOFZARDE&psc=1
05:04 PM _unreal_: trying to find this kind of coolant goose neck thing http://www.mfg.mtu.edu/testbeds/cfest/pictures/drilcool.gif
05:04 PM XXCoder: or literal wd40
05:04 PM XXCoder: yes thats an decent option also
05:04 PM XXCoder: thats err vereni tube? forgot proper spelling
05:06 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/1Piece-1-4-300mm-Plastic-Flexible-Adjustable-Water-Oil-Coolant-Pipe-Hose-Round-Nozzle-Spark-Plug/32828563979.html
05:06 PM _unreal_: I dont know what kind I'd rather have but thats a mister in the first link.....
05:06 PM XXCoder: first search result not best one
05:06 PM _unreal_: trying to find one on amazon for a combind order
05:06 PM XXCoder: mister is better if your router isnt enclosed or in tank to capture coolant
05:07 PM XXCoder: https://www.amazon.com/Cutting-Engraving-Machine-Coolant-Lubrication/dp/B01JU683KS/
05:07 PM XXCoder: its a mister
05:07 PM XXCoder: uses air and liquid intanke
05:07 PM XXCoder: intake
05:25 PM jthornton: some people just don't have any clue what works
05:27 PM _unreal_: jthornton, ?
05:27 PM XXCoder: jthornton: did you see above about washer?
05:27 PM jthornton: guy is moving a chicken coop 300' up a hill over uneven ground and people keep telling him to use pvc pipe as rollers
05:28 PM jthornton: no
05:28 PM XXCoder: well its finally working :D took us a bit to get that dnged motor in tho
05:28 PM XXCoder: clips is hard to clip on
05:37 PM jthornton: what clips?
05:37 PM XXCoder: its strips of metal to hold motor to coupler and stuff
05:38 PM jthornton: for your mill?
05:38 PM XXCoder: no its for clothes washer lol
05:38 PM XXCoder: most of em have rubber and plastic couplers because washer can rock and move twist so on
05:39 PM jthornton: I need to dig my washer out and see what is rattling...
05:40 PM XXCoder: my asher was broken at 2 places, the dog ears was stripped so it sometimes failed to move algator, and coupler broke
05:42 PM XXCoder: if yours is few years old as well as look for dog ears for your washer algator also
05:42 PM jthornton: I caught Sidekick in the act of eating her egg this morning so I made some changes to the nest box to make it harder for them to pull the eggs back... we'll se
05:42 PM jthornton: e
05:42 PM XXCoder: it wears out
05:42 PM XXCoder: weird
05:42 PM jthornton: it's a front load and yea it's 10-15 years old
05:43 PM XXCoder: nice!
05:43 PM XXCoder: front loads take bit longer but last much longer
05:45 PM * hazzy 's washer it 26 years old maytag top load, it has seen VERY heavy used and has never skipped a beat, wouldn't trade it for any modern washer
05:45 PM XXCoder: nice
05:45 PM jthornton: hazzy: have you looked at the config tool lately?
05:46 PM hazzy: thought it probably used about 5x as much water ..
05:46 PM hazzy: jthornton: yes, briefly. Looks very good!
05:47 PM hazzy: really impressed with the PC evaluation part, that is neat!
05:52 PM jthornton: yea that was fun to do
05:54 PM XXCoder: pics looked good
05:56 PM jthornton: dunno if it will ever get added to LinuxCNC or not... I've done stuff before like latency-histogram launcher that never got anywhere... sad it's a cool tool
06:01 PM XXCoder: how about making linuxcnc-addons pack?
06:02 PM XXCoder: or linuxcnc-utils
06:03 PM jthornton: who would know it exists?
06:03 PM hazzy: jthornton: I think it is better for it to be separate, like XXCoder says, I can help you make it an easy to install package
06:04 PM XXCoder: actually if its listed then search for "linuxcnc" would make it show up also
06:04 PM jthornton: yea if it was a deb that would be nice
06:04 PM XXCoder: thats why my suggestions both start with linuxcnc
06:04 PM jthornton: I tried in the past to package stuff up but never found all the secrets
06:05 PM jthornton: that makes sense
06:05 PM hazzy: jthornton: It does not even need to be a deb, python packages are easy to install
06:05 PM jthornton: with pip?
06:05 PM hazzy: yes
06:05 PM hazzy: or setup.py install
06:05 PM jthornton: never figured that one out
06:05 PM hazzy: you'd need to rename the setup.py you have now :D
06:05 PM hazzy: it is a bit confusing as it is
06:05 PM jthornton: that's no problem it's just a name
06:06 PM hazzy: jthornton: I'll do it when I have some time to play
06:06 PM jthornton: ok thanks
06:11 PM jthornton: hazzy: ok setup.py is renamed
06:11 PM hazzy: I see, LOL
06:11 PM hazzy: that was fast!
06:11 PM jthornton: it gets easier the more I do it
06:12 PM jthornton: I should revisit the latency-histogram launcher
06:12 PM hazzy: yes, I am interested in that. Is it on github?
06:13 PM jthornton: will setup.py install the dependencies or check them
06:13 PM jthornton: no, I'll add it
06:13 PM hazzy: yes, it can install most, if not all of them
06:13 PM hazzy: there is a PyQt5 pip package
06:13 PM jthornton: it's a gui to select what options you want to run
06:13 PM hazzy: Nice!
06:14 PM jthornton: lol it's in pyqt4
06:15 PM hazzy: I starting working on a GUI for building RIPs, don't know if there is any demand for it, but I find it convenient, I might should clean it up a bit and put it on github
06:15 PM hazzy: it is easy to convert pyqt4 pyqt5, most of the time all you have to change is the imports
06:16 PM jthornton: https://imagebin.ca/v/4DLXl9LyQTv7
06:16 PM jthornton: that's the gui
06:17 PM jthornton: it's pretty cool when you press run latency histogram the gui disappears and comes back when you close the histogram
06:17 PM jthornton: I'll put it up on github in the morning
06:18 PM jthornton: time to cook some chow
06:29 PM hazzy: jthornton: that looks real nice
06:35 PM XXCoder: apparently windows 95 is an app now
06:36 PM XXCoder: for ios and android
06:38 PM hazzy: but why? xD
06:38 PM XXCoder: because.
06:38 PM XXCoder: I guess its new Doom
06:41 PM XXCoder: doom used to be ported to everything
06:41 PM XXCoder: I was wondering how long before someone ports doom to car computer
06:41 PM XXCoder: but trend faded out years ago
06:58 PM XXCoder: jthornton: lol first empty load leaked some water
06:59 PM XXCoder: we was worried but first clothes load no leak looks like no clothes water gfets too wavey and go over top\
07:01 PM XXCoder: ouch. sometimes facebook feature is a big miss. https://twitter.com/PatrickGerard01/status/1031920228098355200
08:49 PM XXCoder: https://boingboing.net/2018/08/22/eternal-defects.html
08:50 PM XXCoder: painful
09:15 PM skunkworks: http://electronicsam.com/images/greenmachine/20180824_181748.jpg
09:16 PM skunkworks: pallet changing still works
09:17 PM XXCoder: took me a bit to figure out visuals
09:18 PM XXCoder: it looks super unsafe
09:26 PM skunkworks: what makes you say that? i am sure it was osha approved in 69
09:27 PM XXCoder: lol
09:27 PM XXCoder: what confused me is that picture is taken from back left of machine "face"
09:27 PM XXCoder: so took me a bit to see milling action
09:27 PM skunkworks: you like the shaving spinning on the drill?
09:29 PM skunkworks: right. that is where the operators panel is
09:29 PM XXCoder: wieird
09:36 PM skunkworks: XXCoder: http://electronicsam.com/images/KandT/oldkandt.JPG
09:37 PM XXCoder: ya I have picture of that
09:37 PM skunkworks: (we actually ran that control for a while - linuxcnc is way better :) l
09:37 PM XXCoder: made into kindle paperwhite screensaver picture
09:37 PM XXCoder: I enchanced the hell out of it, still kinda sucks
09:37 PM skunkworks: cool :)
09:37 PM XXCoder: too bad theres no real pocture of it
09:38 PM skunkworks: that scan was probably don in the 90's early...
09:38 PM XXCoder: I wonder if there was any earlier models
09:38 PM XXCoder: ya 90s scan of some newspaper picture I guess? hence the colors
09:39 PM skunkworks: oh sure. there was a II.. (ours is a IIIb)
09:40 PM XXCoder: http://iscar.co.nz/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/oldest-cnc-618x270.png
09:41 PM XXCoder: one of older machiens at work is fadal 88
09:41 PM XXCoder: theres 2 even older, at 1984 or soi
09:41 PM skunkworks: https://www.google.com/search?client=tablet-android-google&biw=960&bih=600&tbm=isch&sa=1&ei=ecGAW9DtKaSYjwTRzIWgCQ&q=kearney+trecker+ii+Milwaukee+matic&oq=kearney+trecker+ii+Milwaukee+matic&gs_l=mobile-gws-wiz-img.3...2222.9773..10681...2.0..0.345.2518.0j11j2j2......0....1.........33i10.Pi5ixvuywkg#imgrc=mwStRptdKNSEyM:
09:41 PM skunkworks: ugh
09:41 PM skunkworks: we have an 84? matsuura.
09:42 PM skunkworks: that was scanned from one of the manuals
09:42 PM skunkworks: iirc
09:43 PM skunkworks: https://youtu.be/Y3YrbEGWE04
09:44 PM XXCoder: wow
09:44 PM XXCoder: toolchange is so slow
09:44 PM XXCoder: it makes fadal seem speedy
09:45 PM XXCoder: yet theres one (modern) machine at work thats even slower
09:45 PM XXCoder: 35 seconds to change tool
09:45 PM XXCoder: its one of extremely rare haas 5 axis HUGE machine
09:46 PM XXCoder: man
09:46 PM XXCoder: monster wiring cabinet
09:46 PM skunkworks: https://youtu.be/Kh4YD0d071c
09:46 PM XXCoder: uhh
09:46 PM skunkworks: fast enough for us... ;)
09:46 PM XXCoder: its changing tool at motion
09:47 PM XXCoder: impossible for essentally all machines now.
09:47 PM skunkworks: ?
09:47 PM XXCoder: your video
09:47 PM XXCoder: its moving down at same time changing tool
09:48 PM XXCoder: no wonder current machines doesnt, it hauls all tools and changer at all times
09:49 PM XXCoder: but ya know
09:49 PM XXCoder: in 100 years people would laugh at us, I mean, actually cutting materia;
09:49 PM XXCoder: when can just use matterfab
09:49 PM skunkworks: heh
09:50 PM XXCoder: lol guy changing tools in corsel when machine is running
09:50 PM skunkworks: the tools have mechanical barcodes.. pretty cool for the time
09:50 PM XXCoder: great way to lose fingers now
09:52 PM XXCoder: water miling https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y1xOpHxXgE8
09:55 PM skunkworks: neat
09:56 PM XXCoder: yeah
11:16 PM flyback: https://youtu.be/NAsM30MAHLg