#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 23 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:27 AM Wolf__: morning
01:29 AM * fragalot dislikes schenkers' tracking
01:30 AM fragalot: it's one of those 'shipment planned' -> *total blackout* -> 'delivered' type deals that hasn't reached the 'delivered' stage yet
01:32 AM Wolf__: thats annoying
01:49 AM fragalot: very - especially if it requires you to take a day off, as well as a few friends
01:49 AM fragalot: which you've already had to reschedule :p
02:06 AM Deejay: moin
02:29 AM CaptHindsight: "your item has shipped" yet "shipping label created, not yet received by shipper"
02:29 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: something along those lines
02:30 AM fragalot: except schenker is the shipper
02:30 AM CaptHindsight: don't tell me it's shipped until the actual agent has accepted the freight/items
02:32 AM Wolf__: and 3 days later the tracking still says that usually
02:32 AM CaptHindsight: I'd rather be notified "shipment arrives at agent, no longer in hands of the seller"
02:32 AM fragalot: here it's showing as "en route" but not "out for delivery", with an estimated delivery date of today
02:32 AM fragalot: but the tracking locations haven't updated from the pick-up point to their original sorting centre
02:33 AM Wolf__: this is part of the reason that I’m looking to buy a yard crane, makes it a pain in the ass when you need to try to schedule someone that you need to pay $$$ by the hour to be there same time as truck delivery
02:34 AM fragalot: I wouldn't mind as much if I were here anyway
02:34 AM fragalot: but now it's a pain to be here, waiting for something that may or may not come
02:34 AM CaptHindsight: worst ever is Parcel Farce" in the UK, 6 weeks after it's been sitting in the UK they tell you they can't find the address, item being returned to shipper
02:35 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: Nice.
02:35 AM CaptHindsight: then UPS has it there from the USA in 4 days
02:35 AM fragalot: I've had something similar happen when I got something shipped to me by a friend in the USA
02:35 AM fragalot: sat in customs for 6 months before I got a letter they had it and I was supposed to pay $750 storage fees$
02:36 AM CaptHindsight: the address in the UK is the name of the company, the 1/4 mile street is named after them since they have been there for 150 years
02:36 AM Wolf__: I have seen usps do some odd things
02:36 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: ha ;D
02:36 AM fragalot: meanwhile in finland the post delivers things with the address sketched out on it
02:37 AM fragalot: sorry, iceland
02:37 AM CaptHindsight: yeah, Finland, it arrived a bit beaten up but it always gets ther
02:37 AM fragalot: https://www.telegraph.co.uk/content/dam/Travel/2016/August/iceland-1GVjLKF.jpg?imwidth=1240
02:37 AM CaptHindsight: well every local in Iceland knows everyone else
02:37 AM fragalot: house description being as generic as humanly possible in iceland
02:38 AM CaptHindsight: blue house by rock near gravel road
02:39 AM Wolf__: I had one package Calif> Maryland (where I am) > then went south via 2-3 scans down to Florida, took 2 trip over 3 days around florida going through one of the hubs twice…
02:39 AM fragalot: I'm wondering if I can learn anything new by calling schenker & asking for an update on the phone
02:40 AM * fragalot is an impatient little bastard if there are no clear agreements :P
02:40 AM CaptHindsight: Wolf__: there is some zipcode in California where whenever I send USPS it goes through Florida first
02:40 AM fragalot: Wolf__: it's great isn't it when it bounces back & forth between 2 locations
02:41 AM CaptHindsight: from Chicago
02:41 AM CaptHindsight: to near LA
02:41 AM Wolf__: just little out of the way
02:45 AM CaptHindsight: Oh great shipping Gods in the sky, Please may fragalot's shipment arrive post haste...
02:46 AM CaptHindsight: may it not be lost like sheep amongst wolves
02:46 AM CaptHindsight: may it be guided by you heavenly glory
02:47 AM fragalot: :3
02:47 AM CaptHindsight: by the power of holy barcodes I beseech the
02:48 AM fragalot: maybe put up a temporary facebook avatar
02:48 AM CaptHindsight: ahmen
02:49 AM fragalot: what would be great is if every shipping company could do what the UK post seems to do
02:49 AM fragalot: tracking number gives you a live GPS feed
02:52 AM CaptHindsight: just expect it to arrive next Tuesday....
02:52 AM CaptHindsight: then when it gets there Friday you'll be surprised
02:52 AM fragalot: can't, i've got some meetings I can't shift tomorrow & most of next week
02:53 AM CaptHindsight: oh then it will arrive Friday or next week :)
02:53 AM fragalot: >.>
02:53 AM Wolf__: ^ that lol
02:53 AM fragalot: there's also a limit on how frequently I can get friends to also stay home all day to assist :P
02:54 AM fragalot: so I figure the best way to ensure it will come today is to complain about it on IRC
02:54 AM Wolf__: doesnt work, I have tried
02:54 AM fragalot: doesn't hurt to try
02:55 AM CaptHindsight: yeah, we have a loading dock but often the truck will pull up in front (opposite side of the building) and say "it's here"
02:55 AM fragalot: haha yeah we have that issue at work too CaptHindsight
02:55 AM fragalot: they always wedge the truck into the front part, completely ignoring the loading bays on the side
02:55 AM CaptHindsight: yeah!
02:56 AM fragalot: half the time they unload there too
02:56 AM CaptHindsight: anywhere but the dock
02:59 AM CaptHindsight: best way to be sure it shows up is to have somewhere else to be that day
02:59 AM fragalot: you mean like at work? :P
03:00 AM CaptHindsight: around here it cost ~$50 extra to have them call before delivery
03:01 AM fragalot: apparently the guy that sold me the schaublin asked them mto do that
03:01 AM fragalot: whether or not they actually will however is anyone's guess
03:02 AM fragalot: I also tried calling them and they won't answer & told me the other guy has to call them >.>
03:03 AM CaptHindsight: nice
03:04 AM CaptHindsight: yeah I've tried to intercept a shipment at the terminal, they won;t do it
03:04 AM CaptHindsight: has to be arranged by the shipper
03:10 AM CaptHindsight: http://advances.sciencemag.org/content/4/8/eaar8590
03:11 AM CaptHindsight: Poor Sleep Alters Metabolism and Boosts Body's Ability To Store Fat
03:12 AM CaptHindsight: and another fun one http://rspb.royalsocietypublishing.org/content/285/1885/20181292
03:13 AM CaptHindsight: New Research Suggests Evolution Might Favor 'Survival of the Laziest'
03:14 AM * fragalot paces around a bit
04:02 AM veek: has anyone tried checking the type of steel for really cheap chinese tools.. i'm new to metallurgy and i was reading that quenching time determines hardness for 1045 steel (assuming we aren't using fancy alloys) and that we need to oven it for 1hr/inch
04:02 AM fragalot: really cheap chinese tools = pot luck steel
04:02 AM veek: so could be not buy dirt cheap tools and soup them up :)
04:02 AM fragalot: every one you order could be different
04:03 AM veek: rockewell C? it can't be alloy steel so.. the only variable is C
04:03 AM veek: and heating
04:03 AM fragalot: the carbon content won't be the same anywhere, it could be high enough, or it could be too low to harden
04:03 AM veek: I mean why will they cheap out on Carbon
04:04 AM fragalot: also bear in mind that heat treatment will warp it even further than it already is
04:04 AM veek: ah yeah :(
04:04 AM veek: shrinkage :(
04:04 AM veek: the fly in the ointment
04:04 AM fragalot: I mean.. they're typically not perfect to begin with anyway :D
04:05 AM veek: durrnn! grr! would have been fun though :p
04:10 AM XXCoder: fuck.
04:10 AM fragalot: ?
04:10 AM XXCoder: something truly fucked happened at work
04:10 AM XXCoder: coworker palm got ripped off
04:10 AM fragalot: >.<
04:10 AM Loetmichel: ouch
04:10 AM XXCoder: im a wheck now, as hand hurt is my second worse fear
04:11 AM fragalot: other than his hand, is he going to be ok?
04:11 AM XXCoder: after months yes. he wont be back to work most likely
04:12 AM veek: wow - how?
04:12 AM XXCoder: he made a stupid mistake
04:12 AM TurBoss: sad to ear that
04:12 AM XXCoder: he stuck hand in chip conveyer, maybe thinking it was off
04:12 AM XXCoder: trying to get part
04:13 AM XXCoder: robo dont turn off conveyers right away like most machines however
04:13 AM XXCoder: its a screwup, a big one. still very depressing as hes awesome worker
04:13 AM XXCoder: well likely former worker
04:14 AM XXCoder: note not saying he'l get fired, company i work for is great on retaining
04:15 AM XXCoder: but 5 months is a long time, and he may well decide to move on from cnc machining career
04:15 AM XXCoder: but who knows
04:25 AM XXCoder: the fucking smoke is still here
04:25 AM XXCoder: heavier than yeserdayu
04:26 AM XXCoder: my personal workday by itself was okay, did setup on fiberglass part, ran a few, did setup for different part on different machine meanwhile but didnt run it afterwards
04:28 AM * fragalot hates fiberglass parts
04:28 AM fragalot: little glass particles get EVERYWHERE
04:28 AM XXCoder: thats if you dont use shitloads of coolant
04:28 AM XXCoder: we do
04:29 AM fragalot: still gets everywhere inside of the machine
04:29 AM XXCoder: tank is getting full though so need to dig u[
04:29 AM XXCoder: not really
04:29 AM XXCoder: we turn 75% of block into powder and machine is largely fine
04:38 AM XXCoder: man hope he opted in for good insurance
04:38 AM XXCoder: I certainly did
04:38 AM fragalot: does that even matter if it happened whilst on the job?
04:38 AM XXCoder: I have short term disability insurance, as well as long term
04:38 AM fragalot: shouldn't the company be held responsible?
04:38 AM XXCoder: its life insurance, and company itself has L and I
04:38 AM XXCoder: L and I by itself isnt enough I think
04:39 AM XXCoder: besides its not company fault, he made a really bad mistake
04:39 AM fragalot: here it would be as it should not be possible to reach the chip conveyor before it's halted
04:40 AM fragalot: not that it matters imho, as all that matters now is that he's taken care of properly and not left to his own
04:40 AM XXCoder: its not inside machine
04:40 AM XXCoder: its in back, its seperate equipment from cnc machine
04:41 AM XXCoder: l and I would cover that yeah. he would need more though because 5 months is very long time
04:42 AM XXCoder: ligiments take forever to heal
04:43 AM fragalot: were they able to save them then?
04:43 AM XXCoder: unknown
04:43 AM fragalot: k
04:43 AM XXCoder: it happened 2 hours before end of shift
04:43 AM XXCoder: less actually but
04:50 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: finally got a customer rep contacted.. but they need to check with their german colleagues >.< hopefully i'll have an answer soon
04:51 AM XXCoder: your package didnt arrive?
04:51 AM fragalot: still waiting for the mill to show up
04:51 AM fragalot: tracking number shows estimated delivery today, but the progress hasn't been updated since 3 days ago
04:52 AM fragalot: and they were supposed to call prior to delivery but haven't heard anything yet
04:56 AM XXCoder: ugh
04:56 AM XXCoder: industual fire at shelton
04:56 AM XXCoder: no wonder smoke didnt go away, its smewing toxic thick smoke there
04:59 AM XXCoder: 165 air quality now. down a single point. yayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyybhbjhljk...
05:00 AM fragalot: what rating is that air quality in?
05:00 AM XXCoder: 0 is perfect to 500 which is deadly
05:01 AM XXCoder: 165 is "unhealthy"
05:01 AM XXCoder: out and around all day its like smoking 7 cigs
05:01 AM jthornton: morning
05:01 AM fragalot: nice
05:01 AM XXCoder: hey jt
05:01 AM fragalot: our scale is in µg/m³ .. tops out at 100 before hte meters crap out
05:01 AM XXCoder: shitty day for my coworker jthornton :( can you read backlog?
05:04 AM jthornton: bad mistake for him
05:04 AM XXCoder: yeah
05:05 AM jthornton: wow it's 57°F
05:05 AM XXCoder: I saw him right after it happened, I was sanding the fun fiberglass parts when I happened to glance back saw him running with hand in grip leaving blood trail
05:06 AM XXCoder: saw other coworkers run to him, I didnt go because I cant do shit
05:06 AM XXCoder: thats the other side to reason im so depressed. I cant do shit.
05:06 AM fragalot: you can do something, you can stay out of the way of the people that can.
05:07 AM jthornton: aye
05:07 AM * fragalot also has zero medical training and does exactly that
05:07 AM XXCoder: this is why osha safety dont count me as "worker" in specific way, shop must have minium of 2 workers, and I cant count as one of those.
05:07 AM XXCoder: if he was alone with me, he might have died
05:07 AM XXCoder: if I didnt see him
05:08 AM XXCoder: fragalot: I have some medical training
05:08 AM XXCoder: requirement for old job I had
05:08 AM fragalot: you're ahead of me then
05:08 AM XXCoder: I may have been a dishwasher there but every worker must have training because older people who knows what would happen
05:31 AM Tom_L: 68°F Hi 89
05:37 AM jthornton: we get that saturday
05:37 AM rmu|w: isn't basic first aid a requirement for drivers license in US?
05:38 AM fragalot: in belgium you're required to have a kit in the car, btu there is no requirement for you to know how to use it
05:38 AM rmu|w: keeping somebody with injured hand from bleeding out for half an hour shouldn't be that hard given proper first aid kit is available
05:39 AM rmu|w: here you have to do a 16h first aid course, the problem is that periodic courses every 5 years or so afterwards are not mandatory, so everybody forgets
05:42 AM rmu|w: i US you will probably be sued when making mistakes while "doing" first aid, here you will get sued if you don't help
05:42 AM fragalot: I thought they had the 'good samaritan' law to protect helpers?
05:47 AM Loetmichel: most CIVILIZED countrys have a similar law that frees an individual that is NOT a doctor from any "malpractice" accusations when helping others.
05:48 AM fragalot: Loetmichel: yah, but we ARE talking about the usa here
05:48 AM fragalot: :D
05:48 AM Loetmichel: for the sole reason that nobody would help if it could bring them jail
05:48 AM Loetmichel: thats why i wrote civilized in caps ;)
05:48 AM fragalot: hehe
05:48 AM fragalot: obligatory schaublin update: it's not here yet.
05:50 AM * Loetmichel shakes a ton of miniature copper swarf from his clothes/hair... *note to self*: not a good idea to be less than a foot from a 6mm two flute that eats away copper busbar at F1200, 0,12mm doc and 24krpm...
05:50 AM Loetmichel: WHAT A MESS
05:50 AM fragalot: haha
05:50 AM fragalot: tricky material to cut too
05:50 AM Loetmichel: (making i7-heatsinks for 3 heatpipes to solder in)
05:59 AM jthornton: crap I keep getting a joint following error
06:00 AM fragalot: jthornton: you may want to consider seeing a chiropractor
06:03 AM XXCoder: fragalot: depends
06:03 AM XXCoder: some places you need training and proof
06:03 AM XXCoder: some its more overall as long as you prove you have comentacy to do it
06:03 AM XXCoder: cant spell that word
06:04 AM fragalot: competence?
06:04 AM XXCoder: yeah
06:06 AM XXCoder: my certification is long dead so I could be sued
06:08 AM fragalot: lovely
06:17 AM fragalot: man I could've gone to work at this rate
06:19 AM XXCoder: when they give you the time range, it really means "it wont arrive during any of those hours, unless its time period you left"
06:19 AM fragalot: i didn't even get that :(
06:19 AM XXCoder: ugh
06:31 AM fragalot: XXCoder: not even getting the "delivered." email before it's actually here indicating that they'll be here in like, the next 4 hours
06:31 AM fragalot: :P
06:35 AM jthornton: dang it feels nice outside
06:36 AM * fragalot can't go outside or he won't hear the door bell ring
06:36 AM jthornton: attach it to a shock collar
06:36 AM fragalot: haha
06:46 AM jthornton: https://www.homedepot.com/p/Hampton-Bay-Wireless-Door-Bell-Extender-Kit-HB-7902-02/206135540
06:48 AM fragalot: old fashioned solenoid bell here
06:49 AM fragalot: or does this pick up the sound of th ebell & forward it?
06:49 AM fragalot: because if so, that's neat
06:50 AM jthornton: not sure how it works
07:25 AM pcw_home: jthornton :re following errors, you may have a Ethernet latency issue, check all .tmax numbers
07:25 AM pcw_home: halcmd show param *.tmax
07:25 AM jthornton: thanks
07:27 AM pcw_home: That test config is pretty fast (20 IPS) so a timed out packet at 1 KHZ will show as a 20 mill FE
07:28 AM fragalot: man it's great when the delivery company can't work out where your package is
07:29 AM pcw_home: I have an example config that avoids these FEs (on occasional Ethernet read timeouts)
07:31 AM pcw_home: tmax numbers are in CPU clocks so you need to know your CPU clock frequency to interpret them
07:31 AM jthornton: hm2_7i96.0.read.tmax is 1328373
07:33 AM pcw_home: what CPU and what Ethernet Chip?
07:34 AM pcw_home: (Intel Ethernet chips need futzing)
07:34 AM jthornton: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/Py7DGJvDkd/
07:34 AM jthornton: cpu info
07:35 AM pcw_home: ok so no Intel Ethernet chip :-)
07:38 AM pcw_home: ok so 1328/1650 is .8 ms and timeout threshold is set for 70%= .7 ms so you will drop packets
07:40 AM pcw_home: basically says the E450 is probably not great Ethernet host CPU and may require a slower than 1 KHz servo thread
07:40 AM jthornton: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/JMjMbXThYj/
07:41 AM jthornton: ethernet info
07:41 AM jthornton: ok I'll pick another motherboard I have a bunch of them
07:42 AM jthornton: I wonder if there is a way to test and display that... something to ponder
07:42 AM pcw_home: other option is to avoid FEs if they are only occasional by detecting timeouts and patching around the FE in the hal file
07:43 AM pcw_home: Ill dig up my config that does that
07:43 AM jthornton: ok, I'll be back in a bit shower time
07:43 AM pcw_home: Yeah look at the tmax numbers
07:45 AM pcw_home: My off lease Elite 8300 has been running cheerfully with a 4 KHz servo thread for a month now after disabling the intel Ethernet spyware
07:46 AM rene_dev_: pcw_home I feel like instructions to do so should go in the hostmot driver docs...
07:56 AM pcw_home: yeah the intel thing was a bit of a surprise, bad thing is that you cant disable it on some BIOs/hardware
07:56 AM pcw_home: (ME access to Ethernet hardware)
08:22 AM * Loetmichel just noticed that he has 1000s of micro burns (red dots)on his neck and face... seems the copper swarf was HOT... :-(
08:36 AM veek: would it be right to conclude that steel is inherently ductile and soft and it's only the grain boundaries and destruction of it's crystalline arrangement that causes hardness.. it's like a cube with millions of interlocking bits.. each bit is a softy but you can't push the cube/hive around :p
08:36 AM veek: is there a way to reinforce the bonds between atoms somehow..
08:37 AM SpeedEvil: Do you mean iron?
08:37 AM SpeedEvil: Because steel is not one thing.
08:37 AM veek: well steel (iron+C)
08:37 AM veek: C is a very small amount so.. it's not the major player in there
08:38 AM veek: (i haven't got to actually understanding how C can make iron so strong)
08:38 AM SpeedEvil: That is not one compound, it is typically a mixture of various different states of iron, in irregular crystals.
08:38 AM veek: right.. that's the 'interlocking bits'
08:39 AM SpeedEvil: https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0812/fig2b.jpg
08:39 AM SpeedEvil: https://www.tms.org/pubs/journals/JOM/0812/caballero-0812.html
08:40 AM SpeedEvil: As I understand it, the stiffness is largely unrelated to the shapes, that is more related to crack forming and ultimate strength, stiffness is related to the bulk properties of all of the different phases.
08:40 AM veek: yi okay that will take a while (many thanks)
08:43 AM veek: hmm..
08:43 AM SpeedEvil: Also 'soft' is a problem, becuase if you are asking how stiff steel is really, in terms of how bendy - it is all pretty much the same stiffness - below a given stress limit.
08:43 AM veek: by shape you mean.. 'grain shape' or 'cubic structure'
08:43 AM SpeedEvil: Steel is not a crystalline material.
08:43 AM veek: wut! it is so! what about dendrite formation and BCC FCC
08:43 AM veek: are you sure
08:43 AM SpeedEvil: It is not a simple crystalline structure, it is made up of lots of crystals of usually irregular shape and various degrees of order.
08:43 AM veek: ah yes!
08:43 AM SpeedEvil: 'lots of intermixed blocks' - rather than crystals.
08:43 AM veek: yep!
08:44 AM SpeedEvil: The blocks change state between forms as heated and cooled at different states.
08:45 AM veek: SpeedEvil, ah hmm right and the orientation within the blocks alters (BCC->FCC)
08:45 AM veek: but that's what causes the individiual blocks to form the locking bits
08:45 AM jthornton: pcw_home: https://paste.ubuntu.com/p/rH3fJH6cpx/
08:46 AM jthornton: would this be a better pc for ethernet cards?
08:46 AM veek: anyway let me read on.. it's still the frigging 1st pass
08:47 AM SpeedEvil: The above was not particularly picked for anything other than pictures
08:47 AM SpeedEvil: I don't have a 'this is how steel works' primer to hand.
08:48 AM SpeedEvil: Are you trying to solve a specific problem - or general knowledge?
08:48 AM veek: no just GK and it's super interesting
08:48 AM veek: and i got curious
08:49 AM veek: the question stands out ..
08:51 AM SpeedEvil: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Allotropes_of_iron - the phase diagram of Fe-C is interesting and understanding the transitions between the phases is a starting point
08:51 AM veek: ah yep read that but i've forgotten bits - upper transformation temp etc
08:52 AM Rab_ is now known as Rab
08:52 AM veek: when it turns to austenite
08:52 AM pcw_home: jthornton yeah probably much better
08:53 AM jthornton: ok thanks, I'll load uspace on that one in the morning
08:53 AM jthornton: takes up less desk space too :)
09:10 AM fragalot: still no word from schenker >.>
09:25 AM Loetmichel: *FINALLY*... Not pretty but will work for the i7 prototypes... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=17192&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
09:25 AM fragalot: Somehow I don't think they're coming anymore today
09:25 AM fragalot: Loetmichel: need to get it into a tight spot? :D
09:28 AM Loetmichel: nope. passive cooled "point of sales"... think that here with an enclosure and a massive full witdht 3" high finned heatsink on the the back: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16956&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
09:30 AM fragalot: so.. a kinda tight spot
09:42 AM TurBoss: windowscnc?
09:42 AM TurBoss: lol
09:43 AM TurBoss: box looks good
09:43 AM TurBoss: !!
09:44 AM Loetmichel: tumdedum: more like custom enclosure for a customer that wants exactly that system for on desks
09:45 AM Loetmichel: obviously because we do shieldes systems the final version will be fully enclosed
09:45 AM Loetmichel: ah, TurBoss, tabfail. sorry tumdedum
09:58 AM TurBoss: great!
10:26 AM JT-Shop: pcw_home: just trying to understand the math you used how did you get 1328 from the tMax 1328373?
10:27 AM fragalot: from schenker: "sorry it appears our german colleagues are having difficulties understanding the english language"
10:27 AM fragalot: christ
10:40 AM JT-Shop: I had a guy on the rig in West Africa ask me for a tool in English and I could not understand him at all, I had to get a guy from UK to translate for me
10:41 AM fragalot: lol
10:41 AM fragalot: schenker is getting added to my shipping company shit-list
10:48 AM JT-Shop: as soon as he translated I could understand the guy
10:49 AM * fragalot => shower
10:49 AM fragalot: maybe they'll show up whilst i'm in there
11:06 AM pcw_home: just shortened to usec
11:07 AM pcw_home: 1650 GHz CPU is 1650 clocks per usec
11:34 AM Tecan: got the flight mechanics worked out for tesla's flying machine http://www.netpipe.ca/zen/albums/flying-machines/Screenshot-at-2018-08-23-10-26-00.png https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3061447
12:10 PM JT-Shop: thanks
12:33 PM gloops: https://www.theguardian.com/environment/2018/aug/23/kalashnikov-takes-on-tesla-with-retro-look-electric-supercar?CMP=twt_gu
12:35 PM gloops: clever
01:02 PM FinboySlick: I kinda like it.
01:22 PM fragalot: gloops: let's hope they make them as reliable as the AK's :P
01:35 PM gloops: novel idea, retro look electric car, teslas look pretty cliche
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: that's not retro, that's modern Russian design :)
01:42 PM Tecan: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:3063995
01:42 PM Tecan: tesla flying stove
01:43 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oHjaAu1GTZU CCCP1: Today Is Moscow!
01:50 PM CaptHindsight: Mahindra e2o Plus | First Drive | Autocar India https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3R8UukxagAc
01:57 PM CaptHindsight: https://electrek.co/2018/04/05/chinese-ev-startup-singulato-electric-cars-to-market/
01:57 PM CaptHindsight: "Chinese EV start-up Singulato Motors said that it secured funding to invest 15 billion yuan ($2.39 billion USD)"
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: the good part is all this will drive the prices of EV's down..
01:59 PM gloops: to 0
01:59 PM CaptHindsight: one big negative to me is that the controls for these will be locked down from you to more keep track of you and your habits
01:59 PM CaptHindsight: more better
02:00 PM gloops: government will prevent low prices with regulations
02:00 PM CaptHindsight: yeah politics and corruption as usual
02:00 PM gloops: the only permissable cheap commodities are booze and porn
02:01 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: guess what arrived in the mail today!
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: hah
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: while you were at work of course
02:01 PM fragalot: nah I stayed hmoe
02:02 PM fragalot: so I could receive a letter giving me €24 off on my next purchase at an outdoor shop >.>
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: EV self driving, you can't fix it, and you can't turn off the tracking
02:04 PM fragalot: i'm driving a hybrid atm
02:04 PM fragalot: it's a farce
02:04 PM fragalot: it doesn't use the electric motor 95% of the time, and burns fuel to charge the battery (it does not ONLY charge on braking)
02:05 PM fragalot: but.. y'know.. tax breaks. so that's nice
02:05 PM CaptHindsight: I drive reliable
02:06 PM MarcelineVQ: '79 f350?
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: 300K miles down, 700K to go.... will probably be banned from the roads before then
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: 80 series Land Cruiser
02:10 PM jdh: marlin perkins edition
02:12 PM CaptHindsight: as long as you avoid using any Chinese replacement parts they just about run forever
02:14 PM CaptHindsight: replaced a head gasket at 180K and could not measure wear in the cylinders... will tear it back down when I notice any signs of oil in the exhaust or at 400K
02:17 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight: http://www.legacyclassictrucks.com/images/F145401609.jpg If you want to go both 'murican and fancy.
02:18 PM CaptHindsight: not really a fan of open bed trucks as a daily driver
02:18 PM CaptHindsight: my last one was a 1964 Chevy with a 454, got ~7 MPG
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: was just for fun
02:20 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: my last car did just under 90mpg
02:20 PM fragalot: current hybrid barely makes it to 40
02:20 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight: Well http://www.legacyclassictrucks.com/images/F145937673.jpg starts at *only* $225k
02:29 PM CaptHindsight: found a pic https://postimg.cc/image/8xpynwx2l/
02:30 PM fragalot: if you click the zoom button the image gets warped int he most hilarious way
02:31 PM CaptHindsight: yeah
02:31 PM CaptHindsight: the odd thing is so did the truck :)
02:31 PM fragalot: weird that
02:32 PM CaptHindsight: https://postimg.cc/image/elw9f3bsd/
02:34 PM CaptHindsight: was going to drive that to Japan and sell it there
02:35 PM CaptHindsight: with the aid of a ship for the damp parts
02:35 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: you could moses it over if you spray it with WD40 first
02:36 PM CaptHindsight: fragalot: any idea how people in your area get parts for old US cars?
02:36 PM fragalot: we don't have old US cars
02:37 PM CaptHindsight: do they allow them as antique vehicles?
02:37 PM fragalot: sure
02:37 PM CaptHindsight: or are they banned now from the roads?
02:37 PM fragalot: oldtimers are exempt from quite a lot of laws
02:38 PM fragalot: but I doubt they are allowed in low emissions zones.. (don't quote me on that)
02:39 PM fragalot: I only know of one US oldtimer in my region belonging to a guy that sadly passed away recently, a cadillac eldorado
02:40 PM fragalot: he got most of his parts from meets iirc
02:46 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.fastcompany.com/90209541/meet-the-renegade-whos-teaching-the-world-to-fix-totaled-teslas
02:46 PM fragalot: rich rebuilds?
02:47 PM SpeedEvil: he also relies on Tesla equipment, because he can rent it due to his states right to repair laws.
02:48 PM Tom_L: CaptHindsight is that a '69?
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: I considered using their batteries and motors
02:48 PM fragalot: seems like a different guy
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: the truck? 65
02:48 PM Tom_L: wood bed?
02:48 PM Tom_L: i worked with a guy that had one with the wood bed
02:48 PM fragalot: CaptHindsight: I wonder if Tesla's starting to get out of the "make it fancy & wing it" stage yet
02:49 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: 69 https://i.ytimg.com/vi/aMEMJ9vY7xM/hqdefault.jpg
02:49 PM Tom_L: i didn't keep that close tabs on the years of those
02:49 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: yes, it was an oak plank deck
02:49 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight has every year until 1996
02:50 PM FinboySlick: And they're all red.
02:50 PM CaptHindsight: FinboySlick: 1974 and earlier :)
02:50 PM CaptHindsight: after that they stopped making cars
02:50 PM FinboySlick: One of my friends has a 1935 3-window Ford.
02:50 PM Tom_L: i had a 72 which wasn't anything special
02:51 PM CaptHindsight: I used to restore ~1960 - 74 GM (mostly Pontiac) and Mustangs
02:51 PM Deejay: gn8
02:52 PM FinboySlick: CaptHindsight: Investing in your cool-dad credentials before you noticed that all they like is the tablet nowadays? ;)
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: in pre dad days, after dad I only managed to complete one restoration
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: no time
02:53 PM Tom_L: no kidding
02:54 PM Tom_L: i was lucky to get the mill built
02:54 PM Tom_L: but i made a couple parts for em, now they're showing some interest in it
02:54 PM CaptHindsight: not mine 1972 Mach-1 http://image.mustangandfords.com/f/13888043+w650+h650+cr1+st0/mump_0901_01_z%2B1970_cougar_eliminator%2B.jpg
02:55 PM Tom_L: i didn't like that body style
02:55 PM Tom_L: the early ones looked better
02:55 PM CaptHindsight: I'm just finishing up my sons car, was supposed to just be a quick repaint...
02:55 PM Tom_L: you could pack your luggage in front of the engine on those
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: me too, I got that rust free and all in parts for $1500
02:56 PM Tom_L: i could like it a little for that :D
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: trailered all the parts home, took a year to put together and paint
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: 351 Cleveland, 4-speed, posi, 99% stock
02:57 PM Tom_L: those were the days
02:57 PM Tom_L: a friend had a 69 440 cuda 6 pack
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: my kids were ~5, they loved it since it was like riding on a roller coaster
02:58 PM FinboySlick: Reminds me... I wonder if Suburban Tools finished restoring that old Capri.
03:01 PM CaptHindsight: now I just want a car that just works
03:03 PM CaptHindsight: I mostly restored these https://classiccars.com/listings/find/1969/pontiac/firebird
03:06 PM XXCoder: woooow
03:06 PM XXCoder: I can see them hills and mountains
03:07 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Tesla-Roadster-Battery-Pack-172-Mile-Range/253000782441 ~$20K for a used Tesla battery pack?
03:07 PM XXCoder: smoke is much reduced now
03:07 PM CaptHindsight: wind change direction of fire subsiding?
03:07 PM CaptHindsight: of/or
03:07 PM XXCoder: wind from ocean arrived apparently
03:07 PM XXCoder: cloudy here also
03:08 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.ebay.com/itm/2012-2013-2014-2015-TESLA-MODEL-S-85-RWD-BATTERY-PACK-85KWH-400V-68K-MILES-OEM/292661024588
03:09 PM XXCoder: expensive.
03:09 PM XXCoder: you can convert it into house battery pack
03:09 PM XXCoder: recharge when power is cheap, and use em during peak
03:10 PM XXCoder: probably take years to equal 18k though lol
03:11 PM CaptHindsight: was looking at retrofits for gas cars to EV
03:12 PM CaptHindsight: there are some free Tesla charging station nearby..
03:12 PM CaptHindsight: so I can get a full charge for free
03:12 PM XXCoder: hmm is it for anyone or relsa owners only?
03:12 PM CaptHindsight: I wonder how long you could do that before they change the rules
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: well the sign says Tesla charging station
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: all you need is the port and whatever hand shaking the power station expects
03:13 PM XXCoder: would be funny if use fake ev and charge battery pack, then go home and use it to power house
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: that was the idea
03:14 PM XXCoder: ah lol
03:14 PM CaptHindsight: how many KW hours are the packs?
03:14 PM XXCoder: maybe should be able to move using electity, fuel engine running when coming in station is mite suspectius
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: it's at a big shopping mall
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: nobody would even notice
03:15 PM CaptHindsight: slap a sticker on the car "Tesla test vehicle"
03:15 PM XXCoder: lol
03:16 PM XXCoder: 1967 volkwagon
03:16 PM XXCoder: "Telsa test vehicle"
03:16 PM XXCoder: actually I'd love to have ev beetle
03:17 PM XXCoder: just grab "retired" vw, too damaged to drive, go to mexico buy used vw beetle, maybe 2010 or something, swap id then convert it to ev
03:17 PM XXCoder: so light
03:17 PM CaptHindsight: https://goo.gl/maps/5dHn4sB8pSA2
03:18 PM XXCoder: interesting
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: a few years ago I looked into importing small diesel engines from the EU for retrofits
03:20 PM XXCoder: know what I always wanted? EU micro car
03:20 PM CaptHindsight: people do it but it ends up it does violate EPA rules
03:20 PM XXCoder: on safety or pollution?
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: the car would have to pass EPA inspections and test to be 100% legit
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: and that would cost you ~$100K
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: so they left that hurdle in place in case they ever decide to go after retrofits of older vehicles
03:23 PM XXCoder: jezz
03:23 PM CaptHindsight: and it's worded like for a given engine in particular vehicle
03:23 PM CaptHindsight: so different combos would require their own $100K test
03:24 PM XXCoder: if someone else paid for test, everyone else dont have to pay?
03:24 PM CaptHindsight: not sure
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: probably fudge room for court arguments
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: so they can decide later how to enforce it
03:26 PM XXCoder: I can see reasoning on epa checkups becuse pollution
03:26 PM XXCoder: but so expensive
03:27 PM CaptHindsight: see https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tucker:_The_Man_and_His_Dream
03:27 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Preston_Tucker
03:27 PM XXCoder: I know of tucker history
03:27 PM XXCoder: I actually saw one tucker in person
03:27 PM XXCoder: pretty amazing car
03:28 PM CaptHindsight: I'd love a stackable battery pack...
03:29 PM XXCoder: uh I got idea for you
03:29 PM CaptHindsight: but I don't ever expect to see one unless I build it
03:29 PM XXCoder: get a van, it cant hold shit besides 2 persons
03:29 PM XXCoder: though taking to week to charge up might make person suspect
03:30 PM CaptHindsight: hah
03:30 PM CaptHindsight: I don't think they allow overnight parking
03:30 PM CaptHindsight: or bring extra cords and charge from 3-4 stations at once
03:31 PM CaptHindsight: bbl
03:31 PM XXCoder: later, need to go soon anyway
03:36 PM jthornton: hazzy-dev: if your not busy you should checkout the config tool
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.techspex.com/grinding-machines/hardinge-hauser(10082)/2032 anyone work with this model?
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: S55-400 Hardinge-Hauser
04:01 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: ping
04:05 PM JT-Shop: boss said I could knock off an hour early if I cleaned the coolant tank on the CHNC
06:22 PM _unreal_: Ok so I'm about to purchase this.... ANY ONE know of a better deal then this? maybe more powerful controllers?
06:23 PM Jymmm: _unreal_: buy what?
06:24 PM Tom_L: fill in the blank
06:24 PM _unreal_: frealing hell look at the link I didnt post
06:24 PM _unreal_: DUH
06:24 PM _unreal_: God Whats worng with you
06:24 PM _unreal_: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07236CFKC/ref=ox_sc_act_title_1?smid=ABBCDM55UG43X&psc=1
06:25 PM * Jymmm backs up the dump truck to the blank and fills it in
06:25 PM Tom_L: still want that ehh?
06:25 PM _unreal_: had to wait till my next paycheck
06:25 PM Jymmm: _unreal_: "...Computer system:only support Win7"
06:25 PM Tom_L: i showed you a better deal
06:25 PM _unreal_: Jymmm, I dont CARE about the controller
06:26 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, ?
06:26 PM Tom_L: without the controller for ~100 less
06:26 PM _unreal_: LINK
06:26 PM Tom_L: no
06:26 PM Tom_L: it's in the logs
06:26 PM _unreal_: My logs go back 200 lines
06:26 PM Tom_L: mine go back 10 years
06:26 PM Tom_L: probably more
06:26 PM Rab: Tom_L, did you post the link?
06:26 PM _unreal_: Mine are bigger then yours
06:27 PM * Jymmm go back1 6 years
06:27 PM Jymmm: 16 years+
06:27 PM _unreal_: I'm not digging through that
06:28 PM Tom_L: what day did you first inquire about them?
06:28 PM _unreal_: THATS why I'm not digging.
06:28 PM _unreal_: I dont know if it was yesterdayor 4 days ago
06:28 PM _unreal_: or more
06:28 PM _unreal_: speaking of brb need to check the oven
06:29 PM _unreal_: just pan fried plantains before I got on :) SOOOOOOO good
06:29 PM _unreal_: fam. loves my cooking. :) I spend like 15 years as a cook for different resturants
06:30 PM Rab: _unreal_, you asked about that Amazon listing on 2018-08-19 and 2018-08-20.
06:30 PM Rab: (And 2018-08-23, obv)
06:31 PM _unreal_: ! HELL I made a resteraunt in winter harbor maine... famous for my soy pan fried deep sea scollops
06:31 PM _unreal_: shrug...
06:31 PM _unreal_: brb
06:32 PM _unreal_: rab DUDE been some time since you and I talked.... Whats up
06:33 PM Rab: _unreal_, not much, how's it going?
06:33 PM _unreal_: droping a shit load of $ again on an other project
06:33 PM _unreal_: building a CNC mchine
06:33 PM _unreal_: stupid strong cnc
06:33 PM _unreal_: one sec I'll post a link for ya
06:33 PM _unreal_: image
06:34 PM _unreal_: https://drive.google.com/open?id=1liVagaNhtt7j3JF0HNRU3zKudPXCFLPb
06:34 PM _unreal_: Aprox 22x30"
06:35 PM _unreal_: I'm going to try and make a mill with a work area of 24x30
06:35 PM _unreal_: I'm briding X over the 30"
06:35 PM Rab: Nice base, where'd you find that?
06:35 PM _unreal_: next to a dumpster at the marina "work"
06:35 PM _unreal_: it has 5 or 6 C channels welded in across the bottom
06:35 PM _unreal_: STUPID strong, it was the base to a HUGE transformer
06:36 PM _unreal_: Was a 3 phase to lower power levels step down system originally
06:36 PM _unreal_: baseof
06:36 PM Rab: It's been subjected to weight, heat, and powerful magnetic fields, might be pretty flat. ;)
06:36 PM _unreal_: hum I think my space bar is wearing out
06:37 PM _unreal_: @#$% ya....
06:37 PM _unreal_: amazingly it seems that all of the welded parts are very parallel
06:37 PM _unreal_: I believe it came from a welding tooling jig
06:38 PM _unreal_: regarding production
06:38 PM _unreal_: Rab what do you think of that motors kit?
06:39 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Free-Ship-3-axis-nema-23-stepper-motor-435oz-in-31kg-cm-drivers-cnc-kit/262510104370?hash=item3d1ed24f32:g:gtcAAOSwW7JbcSuL
06:39 PM Tom_L: maybe that was it
06:39 PM _unreal_: Thats only 3 motors controllers etc...
06:40 PM _unreal_: I need 4
06:40 PM _unreal_: 2x for Y, 1x x, 1x z
06:40 PM _unreal_: ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^ That was really hard to type btw
06:41 PM Tom_L: https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Ship-4-Axis-CNC-Kit-425oz-in-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-DM542T-Driver-DIY-CNC/231603792010?epid=1839176228&hash=item35eca9688a:g:LXgAAOSwQWxbIhoe
06:42 PM Rab: On sale: https://www.ebay.com/itm/142890336388
06:42 PM _unreal_: the one's I posted still have more Torque
06:42 PM _unreal_: :)
06:42 PM _unreal_: !!!! ooooooh
06:43 PM Tom_L: need more torque???? https://www.ebay.com/itm/US-Ship-4-Axis-Nema34-Stepper-Motor-1232oz-5-6A-Drivers-DM860A-CNC-Mill-KIT/271947443658?epid=2248160589&hash=item3f5154adca:g:uwMAAOSwjqVZGWKa
06:43 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, come on got some catching up to doo... playing with my money here :)(
06:43 PM _unreal_: LOL
06:44 PM Rab: That USB breakout board is $48 on its own: https://www.amazon.com/dp/B078S23P6B
06:44 PM _unreal_: ! speaking of money my daughter just asking me when were going back to disney... I'm like "CHILD FRIENDLY" WTF we just went the week before last.....
06:44 PM Rab: No idea if that would ever work with LinuxCNC. You should probably expect to use the supplied mystery meat software if you buy that kit.
06:45 PM Rab: _unreal_, sounds like she had a good time!
06:45 PM _unreal_: Rab, the "controller" is only a bonus... I'm using a different controller that I all ready ordered
06:45 PM _unreal_: always
06:45 PM Tom_L: so find a kit without one
06:46 PM _unreal_: disney and universal studios anual passes. to florida atractions $$$ :S so cheap
06:46 PM _unreal_: did I mention :S
06:46 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, I siad its a bonus.......
06:47 PM Tom_L: not if you're not using it
06:47 PM Rab: The kits Tom_L and I posted have a nice generic $5 parport BoB.
06:47 PM _unreal_: I could use it on my G10 cnc machine
06:47 PM Tom_L: i'd get the 7i69?? and a basic controller kit with the psu
06:47 PM Tom_L: i forgot which mesa card that was
06:47 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, did I tell you about my green g10 cnc machine?
06:48 PM _unreal_: rab knows prob far tomch about it
06:48 PM _unreal_: HELL rab you remember when I was building that right?
06:48 PM Tom_L: you may have mentioned it
06:48 PM Rab: _unreal_, hmm, I don't recall
06:48 PM _unreal_: !!! :) was it you or ccflman tha said they where plesently suprised by its design
06:48 PM Tom_L: if it didn't happen today, i probably forgot
06:49 PM Tom_L: hell, if it didn't happen within the hour....
06:49 PM _unreal_: Rab, remember that https://photos.google.com/share/AF1QipN0PJNIhsdLWV0suLwifby3I7DUetpdpmPybMvaWq6HqrDBZEGqSNDdCal_4F3BjA?key=NHdNaE52MDJwQWVvaWlXREJ3bkg5MUxYMm1rNmh3
06:50 PM Rab: _unreal_, I can't say I do, but I only pop in here occasionally.
06:50 PM _unreal_: dude i posted that on #electronics like oh boy 6 7 years ago.....
06:51 PM Tom_L: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/4-axis-CNC-kit-Nema-23-Stepper-Motor-Dual-Shaft-425oz-in-112mm-3A-Driver-50VDC/1080600289.html?spm=2114.search0104.3.77.5599ca31Ev5O6U&ws_ab_test=searchweb0_0,searchweb201602_2_10152_10065_10151_10344_10068_10130_10342_10547_10343_10546_10340_5724715_10548_10341_10545_10696_10084_5724015_10083_10618_5724315_10307_5724215_5724115_10059_100031_5725015_10103_5724915_10624_10623_10622_10621_10620,searchweb201603_13,ppcSwi
06:51 PM _unreal_: Back when my Xwife was leaving
06:51 PM _unreal_: Starting to leave
06:51 PM _unreal_: And screwed her self
06:52 PM _unreal_: !@#$#@!$ posted in russian
06:55 PM _unreal_: Tom_L, lol $130 shipping on top of price
06:56 PM Tom_L: you can find better ones, was the first one that came close
06:56 PM Rab: I'd look for product shipping from the USA.
06:57 PM Rab: Even if it brings up the price a bit.
06:58 PM _unreal_: rab.... your thoughts..... What kind of bearing rail system.... the square rail or Key hold style? https://encrypted-tbn1.gstatic.com/shopping?q=tbn:ANd9GcRZTruVOGpFnCgUf6SgTrq8wvYaPl4p5x_wWHOB9horA6uNNfj0A9jz41G1pgU7BX_vfZ1CNE4NypW13RxGzeMg-0HwNGNnx2CnT_cLB5M1E2j56huod8J2&usqp=CAc
06:58 PM _unreal_: or
06:58 PM _unreal_: https://images-na.ssl-images-amazon.com/images/I/51POas3FbgL._SX425_.jpg
06:58 PM _unreal_: I need the greatest rigidity I can get
06:59 PM _unreal_: I'm having www.d2machiningsolutions.com do the work
06:59 PM Rab: I can't open that first link, but square rail all the way.
06:59 PM _unreal_: this is the kind of image from the fist link https://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/X~YAAOSwzaJX2O8j/s-l300.jpg
07:00 PM Rab: Yeah, get that.
07:00 PM _unreal_: Why that over the KEY hold shape style?
07:00 PM _unreal_: in your opinion
07:01 PM _unreal_: wtf dog walks into the room LICKS my left heal that is hardest to get to do to desk location and walks out of the room
07:02 PM _unreal_: just walk in lick. walk out
07:02 PM _unreal_: no questions asked
07:02 PM _unreal_: hell he even stiff tailed me
07:02 PM Rab: Because the round rail bearings can rotate, and the balls are rolling on a smooth surface. The square bearings are inherently more rigid because there's a machined track for the balls.
07:03 PM _unreal_: that is the most coherent and logical response to that question I have been given
07:04 PM Rab: I don't know of any advantage to the round rails, except that they're probably more tolerant of certain types of misalignment.
07:04 PM _unreal_: ! that I have read a few times
07:06 PM Rab: The rails still need to be parallel, though.
07:07 PM _unreal_: Oh my god my 9 yo is trying to tell me about journey to the center of the earth...'
07:07 PM _unreal_: OMG....
07:07 PM _unreal_: palm to face
07:15 PM _unreal_: first she tells me about the end then the start then like 20min in then more about the start... then back to some of the final min..... OMG
07:24 PM _unreal_: going to be an intereasting dinner tonight. I'm feeding my father. step mother and daughter... :)
07:27 PM _unreal_: Freaking hell are you sure!!!? phiscribe What do you think
07:27 PM _unreal_: hum
07:28 PM _unreal_: so rab.. tobad is wasnt caught on video.... I had a horrid issue yesterday......
07:31 PM _unreal_: an other guy and I were doing a rapid job on a boat.... had 2 hours to do a 5-6 hour job easy.... So we were cutting of the old flow deflectors of the under water exhausts and one of the approx 4x6x24" sized parts I tossed on the ground under the boat near the aft..... the boat was VERY low to the ground so the prop shafts were even lower. so squat walking was needed..... at one point in time. I went to the STB side of the b
07:31 PM _unreal_: oat to do or say something or tools I forget.... but I went running ISH back to my side PORT side... and this very light weight foam/fiberglass part was on the ground....
07:33 PM _unreal_: I stepped on it just kind of caught the end of it with my heal, just enough to FLIP it up "VERY LIGHT FIBERGLASS FOAM FILLED" and it caught me in the balls. but because I had so much speed I was moving fwd very fast..... the F'ing thing pollvolted me UP into the @#$@#$ prop shaft under the boat.... so I got wacked/crushed in the balls and lifted by my balls to run INTO the stainless prop shaft.... then I collapsed to the gro
07:33 PM _unreal_: und.... the guy that was working with me saw the entire thing... HE FELL OVER LAUGHING SO HARD!!!!..... I fell over crying so hard
07:46 PM _unreal_: sigh
07:56 PM Tom_L: day of injuries...
08:09 PM {HD}: Wolf__: it works!
08:09 PM {HD}: Active devs are my favorite!
08:18 PM robotustra: evening {HD}
08:18 PM robotustra: did you mill your modified pockets?
09:03 PM Tecan: https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:2362604 neat actuator
09:38 PM MarcelineVQ: goddamn peahen with 3 babies nesting in the tree over the neighbors fence <_<
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09:57 PM veek: has anyone looked at steel through a usb microscope .. those x1000 things.. are they able to show grain and spheroidizing
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11:30 PM flyback: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zAvurSjBVW8
11:35 PM Wolf__: {HD}: cool
11:45 PM veek: amazing!
11:45 PM veek: especially how the carriage setter moves those logs to make cuts
11:52 PM fragalot: hi
11:56 PM Wolf__: funny to think about the fact that my house was build with construction methods that predate that steam powered lumber mill lol