#linuxcnc Logs
Aug 09 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
02:08 AM Deejay: moin
02:20 AM miss0r: mornin'
02:50 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:18 AM XXCoder: 3d print it
04:25 AM Loetmichel: AIAIAIAIAIAI!... open TFT, measuring voltages, palm on the grounded steel enclosure, ring finger accidentally touchting the 230V life... *wide awake now* *still shivering a bit* :-)
04:57 AM jthornton: morning
04:57 AM XXCoder: yo
05:00 AM rmu|w: Loetmichel: residual current device should have triggered
05:00 AM Loetmichel: rmu|w: no RCD here on the workbench... only the 300mA one for the whole shop...:-)
05:00 AM Loetmichel: and that didnt trigger ,)
05:01 AM rmu|w: big mistake
05:02 AM hazzy-lab1 is now known as hazzy-lab
05:02 AM Loetmichel: yeah, thought yesterday to get one of the 600W insualtion transformers from home and fit a few insulated outlets here on the bench... should have done that 6 years ago ;)
05:02 AM rmu|w: i would install a 3mA one for measuring around
05:03 AM Loetmichel: yeah, that would come with an 30mA RCD as well
05:03 AM rmu|w: i once got zapped by an ignition coil
05:03 AM rmu|w: ouch
05:03 AM Loetmichel: its such a block with an insulating variac, some fuses, a RCD and a strip of outlets
05:04 AM rmu|w: rcd in isolation transformer? on the isolated side?
05:04 AM Loetmichel: nope
05:04 AM Loetmichel: on the variac side
05:04 AM Loetmichel: before the insulation
05:05 AM Loetmichel: i cavenged a few of those things from a DDR vocational school
05:05 AM Loetmichel: when the DDR cheased to exist
05:05 AM Loetmichel: scavenged
05:08 AM rmu|w: i would undestand a RCD on the isolated side, that could make some sense, but on the primary side?
05:12 AM Loetmichel: it would never trigger on the insulated side
05:13 AM Loetmichel: unless you have two faults: one hot to ground and one over your body from the other "hot" pin
05:13 AM Loetmichel: to ground
05:14 AM Loetmichel: the box has some "normal" outlets that are just after the variac and some "no ground" outlets after the insulation transformer
05:14 AM Loetmichel: the RDC is for the "normal" outlets
05:19 AM rmu|w: Loetmichel: that would only work if there is some kind of "isolated ground" which there usually isn't, kinda defeats the purpose of insulation transformer. whatever. RCD for non-isolated outlets makes sense
06:07 AM sealive: hi all
06:08 AM sealive: Loetmichel, voller Roter alarm hier
06:08 AM sealive: alle landwirte werden gebeten wasser bereitzuhalten
06:08 AM sealive: wir erwarten ein TRocken gewitter höchster güte
06:10 AM sealive: im off party at the firertruckstation
06:51 AM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
07:21 AM miss0r: Do any of you guys know a good webshop with fast delievery where I can get a 75mm slit saw blade within europe?
07:23 AM robotustra: what is europe?
07:24 AM miss0r: People and heat mostly
07:24 AM miss0r: for the time being anyway
07:25 AM miss0r: I would love to find a place where if I order now, I can have it yesterday :)
07:27 AM robotustra: it's nealy inmossible in eu/us/ca. companies appear and dissapear too fast. but japan companies can exist for a long time
07:27 AM robotustra: impossible*
07:28 AM robotustra: so if you want parts from one company - buy it in japan
07:28 AM miss0r: I don't realy have any prefrence for HSS slitting saws, I just need one yesterday
07:29 AM robotustra: amazon has 1 day delivery, but in ca/us
07:30 AM miss0r: yeah. They are not that fast when it comes to Denmark, if they ship at all
07:30 AM robotustra: not sure about europe
07:30 AM robotustra: usually fast delivery is overpriced
07:31 AM Tom_L: any delivery is over priced now
07:31 AM robotustra: except china post
07:32 AM miss0r: I don't mind paying three times the product price for delievery, as long as I have it fast :]
07:32 AM * miss0r is in a bit of a pinch here
07:35 AM robotustra: you can borrow it from friends
07:36 AM miss0r: I already called around. Noone has that size in stock
07:36 AM miss0r: and I don't know that many that still uses slitting saws
07:37 AM fragalot: miss0r: phantom or a distributor :)
07:37 AM fragalot: but it's 63 or 80mm
07:38 AM miss0r: I guess 80 will do. fragalot: can you link me to phantom?
07:38 AM fragalot: https://www.phantom.eu/nl-nl/zagen/hss-metaal-cirkelzagen/phantom-hss-metaalcirkelzaag-fijn-63.200
07:38 AM fragalot: they've got carbide too, but € x 6
07:40 AM miss0r: I don't need anything that fancy :)
07:40 AM fragalot: https://www.esmax.nl/Gereedschap-Accessoires/Zaagbladen-voor-metaal/Cirkelzagen-metaal/Cirkelzagen-HSS-fijn-Phantom
07:40 AM fragalot: distributor that ships really fast in my experience
07:41 AM fragalot: (and they're cheaper than list price)
07:43 AM miss0r: wtf... I can't shop at phantom without using a dealer :S
07:43 AM fragalot: Yea.. use esmax
07:43 AM miss0r: going to now
08:00 AM sync: miss0r: hoffmann?
08:01 AM miss0r: sync: I did not think of that. I have already ordered one from esmax.. It better get here fast, or it will be fragalot's life :P
08:13 AM fragalot: ._.
08:16 AM Loetmichel: *GNAAAAHHHH* TFT PSU is running again... but just because i have intentionally shorted the input and output of an 78L12 that supplies the power to the SMPS chip. 8V just isnt enough for that to work... now to do some detective work and find why the 5Vstb circuit generates 12V of the internal supply instead at least 15... THAT will be a TFT that nobody can afford when i am done... already 6
08:16 AM Loetmichel: hours in... AND it gave me a nasty 230V shock while measuring in it... :-(
08:37 AM roycroft: another day, another botnet
09:21 AM Lcvette[m]: morning all
09:23 AM Lcvette[m]: hazzy
09:29 AM Lcvette[m]: wow, i just discovered that the limit on the tool table is 56 tools?
09:30 AM Lcvette[m]: is there a reason for this someone can explain?
09:30 AM Lcvette[m]: and a way around it?
09:31 AM jthornton: I've not seen hazzy-dev in two days
09:32 AM jthornton: technical reasons
09:32 AM * hazzy-lab still lives :)
09:32 AM jthornton: yea!
09:33 AM jthornton: when you get time check out the config tool, I've added a bunch of stuff
09:33 AM hazzy-lab: Been busy
09:33 AM jthornton: start a new config and press check :)
09:33 AM hazzy-lab: excellent! I will check it out in a few minutes
09:34 AM jthornton: just pushed
09:35 AM rmu|w: Lcvette[m]: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/issues/411
09:36 AM Lcvette[m]: checking rmu|w
09:39 AM JT-Shop: skunkworks: the log is banned cause it's not registered but hazzy's logs works
09:44 AM hazzy-lab: logs
09:45 AM hazzy-lab: hmm
09:45 AM hazzy-lab: he was sleeping :)
09:45 AM hazzy-lab: logs
09:45 AM logs: hazzy-lab: today's log: http://irc-logs.kcjengr.com/%23linuxcnc/2018/08/09.html
09:46 AM skunkworks: heh
09:47 AM skunkworks: hazy - got the servo to move open loop. but now stuck. I have an encoder hooked into feedback0 but am unsure of what to do next
09:47 AM skunkworks: hazzy-lab:
09:48 AM skunkworks: I loaded the enc_fb0 config and then got lost
09:48 AM skunkworks: (assuming that is correct) ;)
09:49 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:49 AM hazzy-lab: well, at least you got it to spin!
09:50 AM hazzy-lab: I still need to go pick up the motors so I canstart testing
09:52 AM skunkworks: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=v_U7Hbo9Aw8
09:52 AM skunkworks: exciting stuff
09:54 AM skunkworks: * andy helped...
09:55 AM Lcvette[m]: skunkworks! hurray it turns!
09:55 AM Lcvette[m]: is this with the STMBL
09:56 AM Deejay: re
09:59 AM skunkworks: yes
10:01 AM Lcvette[m]: nice! very interested in more updates in this, that STMBL is a very interesting drive option!
10:02 AM skunkworks: just bent the cover around it.. cool
10:10 AM Loetmichel: Heyhoo! got that dreaded SMPS running again... the 78L12 was dead... soldered an 7812S (insulated) in instead: works like a charm... still only 14V on its input, but i'll ignore that if it runs :-)
10:11 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
10:11 AM cradek_ is now known as cradek
10:12 AM cradek is now known as cradek_
10:13 AM cradek_ is now known as cradek
10:58 AM skunkworks: yah - I don't know what I am doing - I cannot get the enc_fb0 pins to change with 2 different encoders hooked up
10:58 AM skunkworks: So either I don't now what I am doing - or something is amis
11:00 AM skunkworks: also enc_fb0.a / b never seem to change from 0
11:10 AM fragalot: hi
11:10 AM Deejay: heya
11:31 AM miss0r: evenin'
11:32 AM fragalot: no answer from that local machine shop I found yesterday
11:33 AM fragalot: (the one with the run-down looking FP1)
11:33 AM miss0r: Sucks
11:34 AM miss0r: Just as well. You want something that is a bargin
11:34 AM miss0r: you are not one to want getting what you pay for ;)
11:35 AM sealive: hi all
11:35 AM sealive: 25liters per sq meter
11:36 AM sealive: no fire
11:38 AM * JT-Shop needs someone to test the 7i96 configuration tool
11:39 AM sealive: JT-Shop, can yoi help me on the wiki preferences
11:39 AM JT-Shop: chips
11:39 AM sealive: by querry me the pass
11:39 AM sealive: ok
11:41 AM fragalot: miss0r: ^_^
11:43 AM * hazzy-lab is playing with the 7i76 config wizard
11:45 AM hazzy-lab: JT-Shop: the check feature is great!
11:45 AM jthornton: thanks, do you like the layout of the dialog window?
11:45 AM hazzy-lab: yes!
11:45 AM jthornton: and the copy to clipboard button :)
11:45 AM hazzy-lab: very much
11:45 AM hazzy-lab: yes, i tried it :)
11:46 AM hazzy-lab: Machine Tab":
11:46 AM hazzy-lab: Linear Units must be selected
11:46 AM jthornton: I figured if you had more than a few things to correct copy and paste would be nice
11:46 AM hazzy-lab: yes indeed
11:47 AM sealive: JT-Shop, thanks
11:47 AM jthornton: np
11:48 AM hazzy-lab: I really like the inputs and outputs stored in the INI
11:49 AM hazzy-lab: make referencing what is connected where very easy
11:51 AM hazzy-lab: jthornton: Would it be possible to make manually changing the inputs in the INI change them in the hal as well??
11:52 AM hazzy-lab: like this maybe:
11:53 AM hazzy-lab: net [OUTPUTS]OUTPUT_0 iocontrol.0.[OUTPUTS]OUTPUT_0 => hm2_7i96.0.ssr.00.out-00
11:55 AM JT-Shop: if you edit the ini you simply load the ini into the tool and press build
11:55 AM JT-Shop: hmm
11:56 AM skunkworks: so it is something I am doing... 2nd stmbl acts the same wya
11:56 AM skunkworks: wya
11:56 AM skunkworks: ya
11:56 AM hazzy-lab: yes, I know that would work, just curious if the INI variable can be used like that in a HAL file
11:56 AM hazzy-lab: it would be pretty neat!
11:59 AM JT-Shop: oh yea any ini section/item can be used in the hal file, now I see what your saying
12:00 PM JT-Shop: the inputs are a bit more tricky as some relate to an axis and some do not
12:01 PM holzjunkie1: hy @all
12:01 PM hazzy-lab: ah, I see what you are saying
12:01 PM hazzy-lab: hello holzjunkie1
12:02 PM sealive: JZ-s can the 7i96 do pwm on the outputs or better to use the modbus to control the vfd direct
12:03 PM sealive: guten abend holzjunkie1
12:05 PM sealive: JT-Shop, can the 7i96 do pwm on the outputs or better to use the modbus to control the vfd direct
12:05 PM holzjunkie1: sorry for my question but i´ve seen the 7i76e for the next project and I asked isn´t it possible to use it for analogservo´s???
12:06 PM sealive: no
12:06 PM sealive: holzjunkie1, 7i77
12:06 PM sealive: and the 7i92m to the ethernet
12:07 PM sealive: JT-Shop, question as i only do 0-10V systems
12:08 PM pcw_mesa: There's 7I96 firmware that has one PWM gen (steals a step/dir channel)
12:08 PM sealive: bad
12:09 PM holzjunkie1: really no way? it could be less expensive and maybe easyer to use
12:09 PM sealive: pcw_mesa, are there now resellers in europ to be trusted
12:10 PM sealive: holzjunkie1, hazzy got a board for analogservos to step/dir
12:10 PM holzjunkie1: who is hazzy???
12:10 PM sealive: i ges he is here
12:10 PM miss0r: are you talking about *the* hazzy?
12:11 PM miss0r: the one and only?
12:11 PM holzjunkie1: maybe!?
12:11 PM pcw_mesa: Daniel Auer or EUsurplus
12:11 PM sealive: i hope he is the guy who did this board
12:11 PM hazzy-lab: miss0r: lol
12:11 PM miss0r: He was born on a mountain, under a rainbow. Fun fact; he invented the cheeseburger
12:12 PM miss0r: :] Hello hazzy
12:12 PM hazzy-lab: hi miss0r!!
12:12 PM miss0r: And without further ado, here he is
12:12 PM holzjunkie1: pcw_mesa: daniel auer put up a huge price
12:13 PM miss0r: hazzy-lab: I don't realy know what is up; I just heard someone asking who you were, and I had a second to spare ;)
12:13 PM holzjunkie1: http://www.shop.cncmonster.de/LinuxCNC/Interface-Karten/Servointerface/7I76E-Ethernet-interfaced-Step-dir-plus-I-O::392.html
12:13 PM holzjunkie1: for example
12:13 PM pcw_mesa: Order from JT
12:14 PM * fragalot applauds
12:14 PM pcw_mesa: I think his shipping is cheaper than ours
12:16 PM hazzy-lab: miss0r: I am not sure what is up either, lol. I don't remember getting this board, must be the STMBL drive he is referring to ..
12:16 PM miss0r: :]
12:16 PM JT-Shop: pcw_mesa: 7i96d_1pwm steals which stepgen?
12:17 PM pcw_mesa: #4
12:17 PM JT-Shop: thanks
12:19 PM sealive: holzjunkie1, https://github.com/rene-dev/stmbl
12:20 PM pcw_mesa: There's also a funny spare input on the 7I96 (in 11)
12:20 PM sealive: im off Gn8
12:24 PM holzjunkie1: hazzy-lab: sealive told me about your step/dir analog "converter"
12:25 PM hazzy-lab: holzjunkie1: I am not sure what he is talking about
12:26 PM holzjunkie1: i thing maybe the stmbl drive
12:26 PM hazzy-lab: my best bet is that he is talking about the STMBL board
12:26 PM hazzy-lab: yes!
12:26 PM hazzy-lab: that must be it
12:28 PM holzjunkie1: hazzy-lab: is it possible to buy it complett?
12:29 PM FAalbers: Stepper Driver Question . Has anyone changed an A4988 reprap driver board with a DRV8825 one , or even a TMC2100 one ? If so , was it straight forward ? Did you have to do something specific ?
12:30 PM hazzy-lab: holzjunkie1: Unfortunately not at the moment, andy made a batch of kits, but they are already all sold
12:31 PM hazzy-lab: rene-dev here would be the person to ask, he has parts to make more
12:31 PM holzjunkie1: hazzy-lab: did you know the price ???
12:35 PM jesseg: Howdy folks!
12:41 PM JT-Shop: pcw_mesa: what's special about in 11?
12:53 PM holzjunkie1: sorry i was of
12:54 PM hazzy-lab: holzjunkie1: a conservative cost estimate per STMBL in small quantities is probably around $120-150 for parts
12:58 PM JT-Shop: that's pretty cheap, did Andy get them made in China?
12:59 PM hazzy-lab: extremely cheap for how capable they are!
12:59 PM pcw_mesa: JT-Shop: no input pin...
12:59 PM hazzy-lab: yes, the boards were made in china
12:59 PM JT-Shop: ah no physical input connection
01:00 PM pcw_mesa: but theres an option to connect it to output 0 (for feedback perhaps)
01:00 PM JT-Shop: interesting
01:00 PM pcw_mesa: or open drain I/O (read when outout is off)
01:33 PM skunkworks: hazzy-lab: are you logging stmbl?
01:34 PM skunkworks: logs:
01:34 PM logs: skunkworks: today's log: http://irc-logs.kcjengr.com/%23linuxcnc/2018/08/09.html
01:34 PM hazzy-lab: skunkworks: no, would you like me to add it?
01:38 PM skunkworks: hazzy-lab: sure!
02:13 PM CaptHindsight: gregcnc: https://heathindustrial.com/event-pro/jpd-group/
02:25 PM gregcnc: capthindsight I didn't see that one on bidspotter, they screwed up their categories machine tools vs metalworking?
02:26 PM rene_dev_: test
02:26 PM rene_dev_: ah
02:27 PM Tom_L: damn that's not very handy now is it
02:27 PM Tom_L: hazzy-dev how did you register yours?
02:32 PM Tom_L: i might try to fix that when i get a chance
02:32 PM jthornton: I imagine you just register the nick like any other nick
02:32 PM Tom_L: you'd have to be signed in using that nick
02:32 PM Tom_L: and identify every time
02:34 PM jthornton: I'll look in the morning
02:34 PM Tom_L: it can join fine but has no voice
02:34 PM jthornton: have you made any changes to it?
02:34 PM Tom_L: if you need my code i'll give it to you
02:34 PM Tom_L: i dunno, maybe
02:34 PM Tom_L: but i doubt it
02:34 PM Tom_L: just channels etc
02:37 PM MrHindsight: logging in by typing a string!? I have a hard enough time remembering my nicks and passwords :)
02:37 PM Tom_L: mine are all on a script
02:37 PM Tom_L: but the bot's probably needs to be in the code
02:37 PM jthornton: might be better to get your working code than try to figure out which version I have here
02:38 PM Tom_L: i'll pm you a link after bit
02:38 PM Tom_L: i gotta go right now
02:39 PM jthornton: get with me in the morning
02:39 PM Tom_L: ok
02:39 PM Tom_L: lemme check if it's still logging, it should be
02:40 PM Tom_L: yeah, it's still working just not visible
02:40 PM Tom_L: just needs something like identify xxxx password or something
02:41 PM Tom_L: i identify all the nicks under the one main one
02:42 PM jthornton: /msg nickserv identify password
02:42 PM Tom_L: yeah
02:43 PM Tom_L: but doesn't it need to wait for a reply?
02:43 PM Tom_L: i'm not sure on that one
02:43 PM jthornton: I don't know
02:43 PM Tom_L: i know in my scripts i wait for certain replies
02:43 PM Tom_L: but i don't remember if that's one of them
02:46 PM * jthornton heads out to the shop for a bit
02:46 PM Tom_L: i might look at it this evening and see if i can figure it out but i'm not gonna get my hopes up
02:47 PM Tom_L: it's already got a place to add a password
02:47 PM Tom_L: i may just try that
02:47 PM TurBoss: Tom_L: did you wrote the logs thing?
02:48 PM Tom_L: no, i got the source from somewhere and jt modified it
02:48 PM TurBoss: can I take a look
02:48 PM TurBoss: i sthere a repo or somthing?
02:48 PM Tom_L: i don't have time right now but i will later
02:48 PM Tom_L: not that i know of
02:49 PM Tom_L: and the guy that had it i haven't seen here in ages
02:49 PM TurBoss: thanks
02:49 PM Tom_L: i'm sure it's an easy fix, i just haven't had time to notice or fix it
02:49 PM TurBoss: I wrote several chatbots
02:50 PM TurBoss: 1 or 2
02:50 PM TurBoss: lol
02:50 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_L: Just register the logers nick and put the pass here: https://github.com/jethornton/JT-Logger/blob/master/jt-logger.py#L56
02:50 PM TurBoss: ok no hurries
02:50 PM Tom_L: hazzy-dev that's what i was looking at
02:50 PM TurBoss: thank you hazzy-lab
02:51 PM TurBoss: will add a config file
02:51 PM TurBoss: I
02:51 PM Tom_L: i'll get to it this evening
02:51 PM hazzy-lab: np
02:51 PM hazzy-lab: TurBoss: That would be great!
02:51 PM Tom_L: hazzy-dev what if you identify under a main nick?
02:51 PM Tom_L: like the one i'm using
02:52 PM Tom_L is now known as Tom_shop
02:52 PM Tom_shop: also uses it
02:52 PM Tom_shop is now known as Tom_itx
02:52 PM Tom_itx: also uses it
02:52 PM hazzy-lab: TurBoss: You can add the conig file to mine logger: https://github.com/KurtJacobson/logbot
02:52 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
02:52 PM hazzy-lab: xD
02:52 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_L: I just grouped logs under my nick
02:52 PM hazzy-lab: it works fine
02:52 PM TurBoss: sure
02:52 PM TurBoss: but latter
02:52 PM miss0r: I *need* a square drill for the mill
02:53 PM TurBoss: I have a duel
02:53 PM miss0r: I can't be bothered to file any more of these radiuses!
02:53 PM hazzy-lab: TurBoss: good luck!
02:53 PM miss0r: My hands will fall off!
02:53 PM hazzy-lab: miss0r: that is what the EDM is for :P
02:54 PM miss0r: well, yes and no. If I had a square drill attachment, it would be faster for this mild steel here
02:54 PM miss0r: But yeah. I am doing a setup in the EDM as we speek
02:55 PM hazzy-lab: yeah, that is true, you need a rotary broach ...
02:55 PM miss0r: yeah
02:56 PM miss0r: If I had to do alot of these, i'd make a broach and a plug to fit
02:57 PM Tom_itx is now known as Log
02:57 PM miss0r: well - in this case EDM is probally the safest choice... Its only 1.27mm wall thickness, and I have to remove a 6mm radius
02:58 PM miss0r: Thats it for tonight. I'm out. See you guys around
03:01 PM Tom_L: i'll work on it more later
03:01 PM c-log is now known as Guest85094
03:03 PM Jin^eLD: hi
03:09 PM Tom_L: that's better
03:09 PM Crom_: on smoothieware alpha_min_endstop 1.24! # I have a PNP inductive hooked to this. When active it shorts to ground. is this right?
03:10 PM Crom_: FAalbers: 8825 I think is pin compatible for the boards
03:10 PM FAalbers: Not TMC2100 ?
03:11 PM Crom_: it goes in "backwards" for the pot
03:11 PM Crom_: dunno
03:11 PM FAalbers: Oh ! They switched sides on pin rows ?
03:11 PM Crom_: I use closed loop steppers though.
03:11 PM Crom_: jmc-motors.com
03:12 PM FAalbers: I was just wondering if it was worth going TMC on my 3D printer
03:12 PM FAalbers: 1/32 micro step and all
03:23 PM Jin^eLD: mmm ok, seems like v2.7.14 is compiling on Fedora 27, the error I posted only happens with master HEAD
03:23 PM JT-Shop: got it working Tom_L
03:29 PM XXCoder: ummmm https://xkcd.com/1664/
03:29 PM XXCoder: lol
03:30 PM hazzy-lab: XXCoder: hahaha
03:30 PM hazzy-lab: that is a good one
03:30 PM XXCoder: man I love xkcd.
03:30 PM hazzy-lab: eh, I guess they are all good
03:30 PM hazzy-lab: me too!
03:31 PM * JT-Shop gets back to running some juice to the one day to be a chicken coop
03:36 PM XXCoder: bleh not looking forward to oven that is place of work
03:48 PM JT-Shop: it's really muggy here but the temp is not bad at 82F
03:51 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, looks like it
03:52 PM Jin^eLD: mhm, so I compiled everything and the docs say I am supposed to start the binary "linuxcnc", but i dont have one...
03:53 PM Jin^eLD: there's an xlinuxcnc but that one does not seem to bring up the configuration launcher
03:53 PM Jin^eLD: instead it tries to connect to some hardware and fails
03:53 PM Jin^eLD: any hints? I want to run a simulation
03:54 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/running-linuxcnc.html
03:54 PM Jin^eLD: basically I am helping a friend of mine who has a MAHO MH400E, I need to write a component for it
03:55 PM Tom_L: configuration launcher
03:55 PM Jin^eLD: so trying to set up a simulated environment now
03:55 PM Jin^eLD: fyi - i am not booting from a live CD
03:56 PM Jin^eLD: whats the binary name of the configuration launcher?
03:56 PM Tom_L: afik it's linuxcnc
03:56 PM Jin^eLD: and i wonder why I do not have a "linuxcnc" binary at all, only an "xlinuxcnc"
03:56 PM Tom_L: i don't use the terminal that much
03:57 PM Jin^eLD: mhm I must be missing something
04:03 PM Jin^eLD: oh yeah I forgot to set up the environement/run the rip-environment script
04:11 PM Deejay: gn8
04:12 PM jthornton: night
04:12 PM Jin^eLD: nite
04:24 PM infornography: I had a PC with no signal on output pins 16 and 17 of the parallel port today. Anyone else dealt with that?
04:32 PM jthornton: test
04:33 PM Tom_L: fail
04:33 PM cradek: pong
04:34 PM jthornton: hmm I'll need a pci ethernet card on this pc to progress with the 7i96 configuration tool
04:37 PM pcw_mesa: No Ethernet on the PC?
04:39 PM pcw_mesa: If the PC has only one Ethernet jack I usually use a USB-Ethernet or USB-WIFI dongle for normal network access
05:57 PM jthornton: weird I just cloned my drive and now the g code quick reference is Vietnamese
06:10 PM jthornton: dunno language is en_US.utf8
06:11 PM hazzy-lab: lol
06:11 PM hazzy-lab: jthornton: you are going to have to move
06:13 PM jthornton: some crazy shit every time you do something... never seen that before
06:34 PM jthornton: I guess I'll reinstall LinuxCNC in the morning a see if that fixes the issue
08:12 PM hazzy-lab: jthornton: you should be able to change the language
08:12 PM hazzy-lab: how do you open the quick reference?
08:33 PM Tom_L: 3rd choice on the docs page at the top
08:33 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode.html
08:35 PM Tom_L: i wonder what an 10 x 8 x 3" aluminum block would cust
08:35 PM Tom_L: cost
08:36 PM Tom_L: 2 or 2.5" would be adequate i suppose
08:37 PM MrHindsight: convert to cu in
08:37 PM MrHindsight: what todays price for alu/lb?
08:37 PM Tom_L: i wonder what the odds of me finding one close to that size will be: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/local_stock/5.jpg
08:37 PM infornography: I have cus'd a few aluminum blocks over the years
08:39 PM MrHindsight: https://agmetalminer.com/metal-prices/aluminum/
08:39 PM MrHindsight: $1.78/lb
08:39 PM Tom_L: most of that is 6061
08:40 PM Tom_L: on the far side is 7075
08:40 PM roycroft: smuggle it in from canadia
08:40 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/local_stock/7.jpg
08:40 PM Tom_L: i think some of those are 7075
08:41 PM Tom_L: further down the rack
08:41 PM Tom_L: i could just make 2 2" wide risers i suppose
08:41 PM Tom_L: it would probably be more rigid if it were one piece
08:43 PM Tom_L: 6.13 lb
08:43 PM Tom_L: less than i figured
08:44 PM Tom_L: but the odds of finding an exact piece are nil
08:44 PM Tom_L: https://www.bostoncenterless.com/tools/metal-weight-calculator/
08:44 PM Tom_L: if you ever need one.
08:45 PM MrHindsight: 23.4Lbs
08:45 PM Tom_L: yeah i did it wrong i think
08:45 PM Tom_L: it was set for round
08:45 PM MrHindsight: 374.4 cu in
08:45 PM Tom_L: 2.5 is 19.6
08:46 PM Tom_L: that would probably be enough
08:46 PM Tom_L: i think they may get a little less than that for the scraps
08:46 PM Tom_L: can't remember
08:46 PM MrHindsight: I'd say the price will be ~50
08:47 PM MrHindsight: $50
08:47 PM Tom_L: sounds about right
08:47 PM Tom_L: depends what i find
08:47 PM Tom_L: been pretty lucky so far
08:47 PM Tom_L: this might be one i let my bud square up for me
08:48 PM Tom_L: the exact dimensions aren't critical i just wanna raise the Z column up some
08:49 PM Tom_L: i may have to use 2 risers, i think i've got wires running up the middle
08:51 PM Tom_L: i should have bought all my aluminum needs in Jan of 2016
08:57 PM roycroft: or just wait 'til 2021, when things begin to become sane again
08:57 PM Tom_L: the 2 blocks would be easier to find anyway
08:58 PM Tom_L: chunk of 2 x 3" or 2 x 2.5 ish
08:58 PM roycroft: or make like a homeless person
08:58 PM roycroft: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ldURYZyRYMA
08:58 PM roycroft: :)
08:59 PM Tom_L: i dare say he spent more than i will
09:00 PM roycroft: it was an exercise in clickbait, i think
09:09 PM roycroft: and with 3 million views, a very effective exercise
09:37 PM hazzy-dev: Tom_L: I assume JT is talking about the local quick reference docs, I don't think there is a Vietnamese translation of the HTML docs ...
09:38 PM Tom_L: i didn't see one
09:40 PM hazzy-dev: Tom_L: https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc/pull/399
09:40 PM hazzy-dev: aha!
09:41 PM Tom_L: heh
09:47 PM hazzy-dev: the docs are located in /usr/share/doc/linuxcnc/, but with 2.7.14 at least the Vietnamese translation does not seems to be present, the french docs are though, very strange
09:48 PM Tom_L: that was just added to master it appears
09:48 PM Tom_L: i don't think there's been a release since
09:48 PM hazzy-dev: ah, very true
09:49 PM hazzy-dev: so he must be running master
09:49 PM Tom_L: play at your own risk :D
09:49 PM hazzy-dev: easy fix, juts delete the gcode_vi.html file xD
09:50 PM hazzy-dev: nah, then it probably would not open at all
09:54 PM hazzy-dev: its neat having the translation, I helped some Vietnamese grad students get set up with LCNC, it would have helped them a lot
09:54 PM agris_ is now known as agris
09:54 PM hazzy-dev: (but I guess one of they reasons they came here was to learn English ...)
11:52 PM fragalot: hi