#linuxcnc Logs

Jul 29 2018

#linuxcnc Calendar

02:07 AM Deejay: moin
02:36 AM holzjunkie: guten morgen
02:37 AM Deejay: morning
02:40 AM holzjunkie: deejay where you from?
02:41 AM Deejay: NRW
02:41 AM Deejay: da wo es nie regnet :/
02:42 AM holzjunkie: ah also auch typsch deutsch immer meckern übers wetter ;-)
02:42 AM Deejay: normal ;) ich bin bauer, ich darf das ;)
02:43 AM holzjunkie: ein Agratechnischer Großflächben designer
02:43 AM holzjunkie: weißt du wie ich einer Funktion einen pin zuordnen kann ?
02:44 AM Deejay: nee, leider nicht. irgendwie mit irgenwelchen ini-files rumfummeln ;)
02:44 AM Deejay: hab mir meins damals nur auf 'standard' eingerichtet und seitdem läufts ;)
02:45 AM holzjunkie: ach schade
02:45 AM holzjunkie: ich dachte das könnte selbst ich als dau schaffen
02:45 AM Deejay: schon versucht? ;)
02:46 AM holzjunkie: mal sehen was ich heute schaffe will irgendwie meine Kühlung und meine Werkzeugspannung realisieren
03:06 AM XXCoder: pretty cool https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_6QIutZfsFs
03:31 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Hot dry germanya
03:31 AM IchGucksLive: holzjunkie, noch da
03:31 AM XXCoder: hey from hot as hell tacoma
03:34 AM IchGucksLive: hi Sairon
03:46 AM IchGucksLive: off 2 garden
04:11 AM CaptHindsight: on 2 beer garden
05:02 AM miss0r: o/
05:15 AM jthornton: morning
05:56 AM Tom_itx: morning
05:56 AM miss0r: mornin'
05:57 AM * miss0r is cleaning the mill after ALOT of alu work.
05:57 AM miss0r: 11mm doc makes some nice chips for just shoveling away
06:00 AM fragalot: Hey
06:00 AM miss0r: \o/
06:00 AM miss0r: welcome back
06:01 AM fragalot: ty
06:01 AM miss0r: Sadly I have to run in 10 mins :]
06:01 AM fragalot: quite a shock to go from 10°C to 38°C, lol
06:02 AM miss0r: yeah lol
06:02 AM miss0r: Welcome to my world !
06:02 AM fragalot: :D
06:02 AM miss0r: The past few days I've been arc welding aluminium 6 hours a day.
06:03 AM miss0r: well.. not 38, but one day it was 33c on one side and alot hotter on the arc side :]
06:03 AM fragalot: hehe
06:03 AM fragalot: what'cha making
06:04 AM miss0r: a transport cage proto-type for some stage lighting equipment
06:05 AM miss0r: (Yes, it happened - I have photos) Uploading it now
06:06 AM miss0r: https://imgur.com/a/wRXmvL3
06:07 AM miss0r: I managed to get the old mill to do something like trapezoidal milling - I'm unsure if that is the word: but moving forward in arcs in full DOC, only taking 1mm at a time
06:08 AM miss0r: Are you about ready to get back to building that cnc of yours? :D
06:14 AM miss0r: I'll catch'ya another time. see you around
07:20 AM holzjunkie: how is the easyest way to ad a button for tool clamp
07:27 AM JT-Shop: physical button or on screen button?
07:27 AM holzjunkie: on screen
07:28 AM JT-Shop: pyvcp
07:34 AM jthornton: holzjunkie, you need a toggle on/off button?
07:34 AM jthornton: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/47-hal-examples/10494-toggle-flood-with-one-button
09:59 AM IchGucksLive: hi all
10:02 AM IchGucksLive: holzjunkie, noch da
10:02 AM holzjunkie: IchGucksLive: jupp schwer am werkeln
10:02 AM IchGucksLive: was wilste denn da wieder verfummeln
10:03 AM IchGucksLive: wasser an aus oder wie
10:03 AM IchGucksLive: mit oder ohne doppelt button
10:03 AM IchGucksLive: M8 und ....
10:04 AM holzjunkie: IchGucksLive: ne wasser hab ich schon
10:04 AM holzjunkie: markus macht grad den wz wechsel fertig
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: holzjunkie, soweit es geht alles in die Postgui rein
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: ok
10:06 AM holzjunkie: IchGucksLive: ich habs aufgegeben markus ist da jetzt dran!
10:06 AM IchGucksLive: bei der hitze
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: im off BYE
10:47 AM Tecan: would you cnc a xylophone ?
10:48 AM Tecan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nd9xha3vk58 this guy has large one
10:49 AM hazzy-m: Tecan: That would be pretty neat
10:51 AM Tecan: its probably material specific for sizes though
11:20 AM jesseg: Good Morning/Evening
11:20 AM jesseg: What do you guys think are the chances of me being able to use bridgeport parts on a 1996 era Taiwanese BP clone?
11:21 AM Wolf_: depends on the part
11:23 AM jesseg: https://www.machinerypartsdepot.com/product/1386
11:25 AM Wolf_: not likely
11:25 AM Wolf_: unless its a 1:1 clone
11:25 AM jesseg: looks about right but yeah who knows :P
11:25 AM jesseg: what's the purpose of the overdrive clutch?
11:25 AM jesseg: is it designed to actually prevent stuff from breaking ?
11:26 AM Wolf_: no idea, I dont have a BP lol
11:26 AM jesseg: lol roger
11:33 AM jesseg: ahh found a patent... yes the overload clutch is to prevent the machine from breaking itself during a downward power feed.
12:17 PM IchGucksLive: Hi
12:17 PM Abrafax: Hallo IchGucksLive gibt's einen Grund warum fast alle Videos zum Thema Freecad von deinem YouTube Kanal verschwunden sind?
12:18 PM IchGucksLive: die version 0.17 funktioniert anders
12:18 PM IchGucksLive: und mit 0.18 wirds noch mal schlimmer
12:25 PM IchGucksLive: Abrafax, auch ist die americaniche systemgrundlage nicht so mein ding
12:41 PM IchGucksLive: Abrafax, Fast alle hab ich da welhe vergessen ?
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: ah den plasma das bleibt aber
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: ist nur step file öffnen
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8
02:42 PM CaptHindsight: LCNC is not doing enough for vendor lock-in :)
02:43 PM CaptHindsight: I had a discussion with some owners of SLA that complained about the lack of flexibility to use 3rd party materials
02:44 PM CaptHindsight: they actually prefer a set it and forget it interface
02:48 PM robotustra: https://imgur.com/10Tt2qf
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: stepper or servo motor with attached driver?
03:10 PM robotustra: yes
03:10 PM robotustra: chinisium servo
03:10 PM robotustra: tested, looks like work ok
03:12 PM robotustra: iHSS57
03:12 PM robotustra: not my test: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZdL7uLoi7o
03:19 PM andypugh: Oh, you can’t trus that test, they have used the wrong type of tape on the motor shafts :-)
03:28 PM roycroft: i have a very basic question about cnc milling (i probably have a lot, but i'll try not to ask too many)
03:29 PM robotustra: I know, right tame color should be blue
03:29 PM roycroft: the owner of the bridgeport i'll be using told me to always touch off on the workpiece
03:29 PM roycroft: i have some random chunks of metal that i need to square and make to fairly precise size
03:29 PM roycroft: i'll be making a holder for the parts as i machine them
03:30 PM roycroft: my thought was to clamp the holder down on the mill bed, take a light pass on the two registration surfaces of the older, and touch off on those
03:30 PM roycroft: that way i would not have to square my parts, measure them, and then calculate what size to cut them down to
03:30 PM roycroft: does that make sense?
03:31 PM roycroft: so i'd essentially be touching off on the bottom of the piece and not the top for the z
03:31 PM roycroft: the owner of the mill told me that cnc "doesn't work that way"
03:32 PM XXCoder: uhh you can set z to whatever you want, and set program to that
03:33 PM roycroft: that's what i thought
03:33 PM XXCoder: make sure your program and your part setup agrees though! or CRASH!!
03:33 PM roycroft: yes, of course
03:34 PM roycroft: and i plan on running my first programs without parts or tooling to make sure i didn't do anything really stupid
03:34 PM XXCoder: bottom is also more repeatable
03:34 PM andypugh: It’s all just numbers. The CNC machine has no opinion on what the numbers mean.
03:34 PM roycroft: yes, that's what i'm thinking
03:34 PM XXCoder: expecially if you have more than one part to run
03:34 PM andypugh: Use them any way that makes sense to you.
03:34 PM roycroft: and my approach would make tramming the holder a lot easier
03:35 PM roycroft: i'll add a bar that will sit in the t track of the mill bed to roughly locat it
03:35 PM roycroft: clamp it down
03:35 PM XXCoder: I personally prefer common reference point, but you can do whatever as long as reference point agrees on part z and tool lengths, and program z and part z agrees
03:35 PM roycroft: then take a light z pass and a light x pass
03:35 PM roycroft: and it will be trammed without measuring
03:36 PM andypugh: And use that _max_velocity_ slider in the GUI so that the initial move on the first run is slow enough to hit e-stop in time.
03:36 PM XXCoder: yeah
03:36 PM roycroft: yes, i'll do it really slowly
03:36 PM roycroft: i remember the manual shows how to set the velocity
03:36 PM XXCoder: I like it when machine have rapid dial and run dial seperate
03:36 PM XXCoder: so I can set run to zero % and rapid to whatever I feel and change as its moving in
03:37 PM XXCoder: when it stops (or I stop it because it looks like will hit) I can then set rapid to zero and slowly turn up run speed
03:37 PM XXCoder: (assuming it seems correct)
03:38 PM roycroft: this is an old bridgeport with a boss system running dx32
03:39 PM roycroft: the problem is the guy who owns it barely understands it himself, and is trying to insist that i use fusion 360 for all my part designs and gcode generation, because that's what he uses and he hasn't crashed the mill
03:40 PM roycroft: i'm planning on writing gcode by hand at first and doing test runs on linuxcnc in the axis simulator
03:40 PM roycroft: and the guy does not like that
03:51 PM andypugh: Ah, so the machine does not actually run LinuxCNC?
03:51 PM CaptHindsight: he worried about his machine on loan to the makerspace...
03:52 PM CaptHindsight: makes sense, he thinks using it his way makes it crash proof
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: why maker spaces may appear to be a nice thing, but the details tend to ruin all the fun
04:03 PM Deejay: gn8
04:07 PM CaptHindsight: the makerspace in Chicago has an open CNC meeting https://www.meetup.com/CNC-Build-Club/events/245364801/
04:07 PM CaptHindsight: LCNC is treated like the plague
04:10 PM CaptHindsight: https://wiki.pumpingstationone.org/Z-Builder_Ultra_3D_Printer they cannibalized it vs converted to LCNC
04:16 PM robotustra: hm, it's interesting what is the controller this guy is using? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3ZdL7uLoi7o
04:18 PM CaptHindsight: https://cncdrive.com/UCCNC.html mit das softwarez
04:19 PM CaptHindsight: https://cncdrive.com/UCCNC.html mit dis hardware
04:22 PM robotustra: ah,
04:22 PM robotustra: thanks
04:22 PM CaptHindsight: https://news.samsung.com/us/samsung-displays-unbreakable-panel-certified-underwriters-laboratories/
04:24 PM CaptHindsight: probably won't be available for phones since they don't break as easily
04:25 PM robotustra: not phones but microcomputers
04:25 PM robotustra: microcomputers with the options of phone
04:25 PM beachbumpete1: I really don't understand the bias against linuxCNC but it seems that way in those makerspaces for some odd reason
04:26 PM andypugh: London Hackspace has no objection to LinuxCNC, as far as i can see.
04:26 PM robotustra: as I told, linuxcnc - it's a religion
04:27 PM andypugh: That isn’t true. I have even been known to recommend Mach3 on the forum.
04:27 PM andypugh: (Adb not _always_ when I just want rid of someone and their problems)
04:28 PM robotustra: after more than 20 years of holy wars windows vs linux I'm really don't care wich system to use
04:28 PM CaptHindsight: I'd rather not use features then have to add them to other control software
04:28 PM robotustra: I use Mach3 on my cnc mill, but will use linuxcnc on the lathe
04:29 PM andypugh: A lot of folk don’t “get” that there is nothing “in it” for us if LinuxCNC has more users. Stupid users, for example, are a positive nuisance.
04:29 PM beachbumpete1: Cannot recommend Mach3 whatsoever...used it for awhile never goin back
04:29 PM robotustra: stupid users need a pretty UI
04:29 PM CaptHindsight: and if I still need to add features I'd rather add to LCNC than reinvent the wheel
04:29 PM robotustra: which lcnc does not have
04:30 PM CaptHindsight: beauty is in the eye of the beholder
04:30 PM andypugh: I reckon Mach3 on a stepper mill is fine, lots of people make good parts that way. Especially if you stop using Mach as the controller and put a Smoothstepper on.
04:31 PM robotustra: as for me Mach3 interface is not so pretty
04:32 PM andypugh: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/41-guis/34572-a-widescreen-blender-style-interface?start=260#114083
04:32 PM andypugh: (Though that it an Inkscape UI, no code underneath it at all)
04:32 PM robotustra: andypugh, it's not ready yet?
04:32 PM andypugh: It’s not even a program, it’s just graphics.
04:33 PM robotustra: I know
04:33 PM beachbumpete1: Woah that looks great
04:33 PM robotustra: it's a "plan"
04:33 PM andypugh: It’s not a bad way to start, we haven’t tried that before. Most GUI makers have been coders who add the controls as they think of them, and put them where they fit ;-)
04:34 PM CaptHindsight: https://ibin.co/2yEz1zoUZ5jZ.jpg axisface
04:34 PM robotustra: for instance I would add isometric view for 3d vindow instead of perspective view
04:34 PM andypugh: I have to say rather lost interest when I told her that 10 significant figures was pointless, and she countered that a sensible number looked bad.
04:36 PM CaptHindsight: one of these days I'd like to get LCNC with Vulkan so the 3D previews can be rendered in high res and full color
04:36 PM robotustra: reasonable number of decimal digits is 4-5
04:36 PM robotustra: and it should be in config
04:37 PM robotustra: CaptHindsight, what is vulcan?
04:38 PM CaptHindsight: robotustra: GPU API https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W4dWzIagMPM
04:41 PM Roguish_ is now known as Roguish
04:46 PM CaptHindsight: andypugh: form over function :)
04:47 PM CaptHindsight: maybe counting molecules is the way to go?
04:49 PM CaptHindsight: 0.000000001 inch is ~.0254nm, so about the diameter of a hydrogen atom
04:49 PM andypugh: The diameter of an aluminium atom is 0.000000184mm
04:51 PM andypugh: The display would show that as 0.0000001840
04:51 PM CaptHindsight: if the digits were reduced it would still look fine
04:51 PM andypugh: ie, a whole place of decimals _more_
04:52 PM CaptHindsight: in fact she has the area under the display split into 3 different size columns now
04:54 PM CaptHindsight: I could also argue that the buttons have too many different sizes
04:54 PM CaptHindsight: and shapes
05:03 PM robotustra: the main stupidity of the useless decimal digits - is the long text edits which just occupy space on the screen
05:10 PM robotustra: eine kleine motoren https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PJA0LKKY5eU
05:25 PM robotustra: what is Acc02 button on this pic: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/media/kunena/attachments/24125/Settings2.jpg
05:27 PM XXCoder: so many lights settings
05:27 PM XXCoder: and/or colors
05:29 PM robotustra: this color map is accaptable IMHO
05:31 PM robotustra: but why the color setup should be inside controller?
05:32 PM robotustra: normally settings of the element's color is done by 1 combo box and 1 color selector
05:32 PM robotustra: combo box contains the list of items
05:35 PM robotustra: is this UI for 2.8 will be also for lathes?
05:38 PM grotius: Acc02, but also Acc03,04,05,06 exist
05:38 PM robotustra: what is it for usually?
05:38 PM grotius: i think it is a output
05:39 PM robotustra: one more silly question, if you are using flood cooling, do you need a Mist button at the same time?
05:40 PM grotius: Yes, you are right.
05:40 PM robotustra: I'm thinking in terms of useless buttons while real operating
05:41 PM robotustra: it it would be possible to remove them or disable to avoid accidental pressing
05:41 PM grotius: I like you dude
05:42 PM grotius: i see the gremlin screen is still used without new improvments
05:44 PM grotius: This day's the Gremlin screen must react when line is clicked. Then you can add technology to the line for plasma and laser bevel operations
05:45 PM robotustra: what is Gremlin line?
06:02 PM grotius: Gremlin is name for the screen where you see the g-code visual, if you click on a line in the gremlin screen, it can react to the g-code line if you have coded this.
06:03 PM robotustra: ok
06:03 PM grotius: after you triggered the line, you can modify your g-code text file with python code to add some interpolation
06:05 PM robotustra: so first pyton line is interpreted and it generates the g-code line to be executed?
06:15 PM grotius: you have a 2d g-code file loaded. Then you click on the lines and add the 3d information
06:23 PM hazzy-lab: grotius: ChrisM and I have done a lot of work on making an updated Qt based gremlin, it loads files about 15 times faster then the Gtk gremlin and hopefully it will support touch gestures soon for touch screen use
06:23 PM hazzy-lab: That is an interesting idea you have, so you would like to be able to set Z height for a selected line?
06:24 PM hazzy-lab: In what scenario would that be useful?
06:24 PM grotius: No, it go's much further
06:26 PM grotius: If you have G01 X100 Y100, after clicking the line and add the technologie you have a output like : G01 X100 Y100 A45
06:27 PM grotius: I have seen this on software used by microstep
06:27 PM Tom_itx: still sounds like a tedious edit
06:28 PM hazzy-lab: That would be relatively easy to implement with the current gremlin, but what is the point? Shouldn't that be the CAMs job?
06:28 PM Tom_itx: yeah
06:28 PM grotius: Yes, normally, but cam is very expensive
06:29 PM Tom_itx: hazzy-dev mist/flood could be a toggle?
06:29 PM Tom_itx: no you probably don't need both
06:31 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_itx: Yeah, you could select a line and have it turn the flood on at that point, I guess that might be useful, but it is also a very easy code edit
06:33 PM hazzy-lab: grotius: I don't see how it helps, if you have a file in gremlin it had to be generated somehow, so why not just write/generate it correctly to begin with?
06:33 PM Tom_itx: maybe he wants a conversational control
06:34 PM grotius: Hmm, i working on dxf import in python. And wanted to make a cam program. But i need a few more month's experience. haha
06:35 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_itx: Yeah, I guess so, but that seems like a combersome way to do it :)
06:35 PM Tom_itx: off to the shop...
06:35 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
06:37 PM hazzy-lab: grotius: It will certainly be possible to select a line in gremlin and have the gcode editor scroll to that line, that does make editing easier, as you have a visual clue as to what part of the code you are changing
06:37 PM hazzy-lab: Hello KimK
06:38 PM hazzy-lab: Did you ever get the INI file syntax highlighting to work properly in gedit?
06:42 PM grotius: thank you hazzy and others. have a good day !
06:42 PM Tom_L: how does run from line work? can you select a line upon start of a file and have it start there?
06:43 PM Tom_L: i had that pop up accidentally on me once
06:45 PM robotustra: is it the right place to clone the code? https://github.com/LinuxCNC/linuxcnc
06:46 PM hazzy-lab: robotustra: yes
06:46 PM KimK: Hi hazzy-lab, that was a misfire on my part, I had the wrong highlight type selected, etc., and I wasn't sure what versions of everything I have, so I'll let it go for now. I'll look at it again eventually with a clean slate.
06:47 PM KimK: AFK
06:47 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_L: Not sure how to do that yet, probably very similar to axis, select the line in the preview (or in the file) and then hit run form here. It's a little too easy to do by accident in axis I think ...
06:48 PM hazzy-lab: KimK: excellent!
06:54 PM CaptHindsight: Conversational Programming is a new, radical, patent-pending programming paradigm to help you with programming.
06:55 PM hazzy-lab: New, radical? It's been around in basically the same form since the 80s
06:56 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.agentsheets.com/Documentation/windows/Reference/conversational_programming.html
06:58 PM hazzy-lab: hahaha Capt, looks like NC machines were way ahead of the game
06:59 PM andypugh: 2010 and an older Mac interface (which I thought looked nicer)
07:34 PM jesseg: anyone here know of a good place to order bridgeport mill head parts?
07:34 PM jesseg: like for older mills
07:38 PM Roguish: jesseg: try these guys. i used them about 10 years ago for Series II parts.
07:39 PM jesseg: Roguish, thanks! URL?
07:39 PM Roguish: http://hallidie.com/
07:39 PM Roguish: sorry
07:39 PM jesseg: thanks!
07:39 PM Roguish: brain fade
07:43 PM robotustra: what library contains Tcl_Init?
08:09 PM pcw_home: Not what I expect when people say ICE car: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UHtni5njdrQ
08:15 PM robotustra: nICE car
08:17 PM robotustra: ok, it was in tcl-dev package
08:18 PM XXCoder: pcw_home: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SRH-Ywpz1_I
08:19 PM XXCoder: hes not villian because of things he did.. its his puns
08:22 PM roycroft: it's 35 degrees here at 6:30 at night
08:22 PM roycroft: i could use an ice car
08:22 PM roycroft: i'd just go sit in it
08:22 PM roycroft: igloo on wheels
08:22 PM XXCoder: 87f here
08:22 PM XXCoder: not outside
08:22 PM XXCoder: 91f outside I think
08:23 PM roycroft: will the russians ever discover fuel injection?
08:24 PM hazzy-m: jesseg: I generally get BP parts from H&W, they are not as cheap as some, but have good selection and their customer support is bar none
08:25 PM roycroft: 35 degrees is 95f
08:26 PM roycroft: that ice car must be pretty heavy
08:27 PM pcw_home: probably not good for bumpy roads...
08:27 PM XXCoder: depends on springs
08:27 PM XXCoder: it looks fine for light duty
08:29 PM XXCoder: its clearly bit top heavy
08:29 PM XXCoder: not surpised
08:34 PM roycroft: john oliver is back tonight!
08:34 PM roycroft: we need a crazy brit to help make sense of crazy america
08:40 PM Tecan: ts100 soldering iron is only 35 CDN on ebay and has opensource firmware with motion sensor
08:41 PM Tecan: https://www.ebay.ca/itm/TS100-Digital-OLED-Programable-Interface-DC5525-Soldering-Iron-Station/292650725450
08:44 PM ziper: what is this? https://jaysugarman.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMG_8520.jpg
08:46 PM XXCoder: ojhhh
08:46 PM XXCoder: gauge size
08:46 PM XXCoder: you use gauge blocks with those, setting gap for dial bore indictor
08:47 PM XXCoder: I use em all time at work with parts with sensive bore size
08:47 PM XXCoder: never saw a mini version (above long one) before.
08:47 PM XXCoder: did you win em in auction or something?
08:48 PM XXCoder: ziper: the bars on top left is ends of gauge block stack, flat inward
08:48 PM XXCoder: I guess right ones is same, just smaller for small version
08:49 PM ziper: and then what?
08:49 PM ziper: they look like solid pieces
08:49 PM XXCoder: you have gauge blocks?
08:49 PM ziper: theyll be at auction tomorrow, I plan on picking up anything cheap
08:50 PM XXCoder: suppose you need a 1.111" hole or gap
08:50 PM XXCoder: you make a 1.111" stack of gauge blocks, put ends on and use pone of those bars tighten en together
08:50 PM XXCoder: gap should be 1.111", you then use that to set your dial bore indictor
08:51 PM XXCoder: dil bore indctor tend to be few hundred bucks or thousand
08:51 PM XXCoder: so if you find a good deal one grab that too for usage with that
08:52 PM XXCoder: *good ones, not cheap
08:52 PM XXCoder: https://www.cdiweb.com/ProductDetail/511752-Mitutoyo/422607/pid=568
08:53 PM XXCoder: bore indictors always come with minium to max sizes it can be used in
08:53 PM XXCoder: ne I linked is 1.4 to 2.5 in
08:56 PM ziper: oh, you put your gage block between those top pieces, I see
08:56 PM XXCoder: block(s) yeah
08:56 PM ziper: what accuracy? .0001?
08:57 PM XXCoder: not too sure, depends on some factors. how clean your blocks are, how good those ends is, so on
08:57 PM ziper: I mean you can get .001 or .0005 doing the same with just a micrometer right?
08:58 PM XXCoder: block(s) and ends should "stick" to each other thats when you know its pretty drat close to what size it should be, before even tightening it into it
08:58 PM XXCoder: ones I always used were really good
08:58 PM XXCoder: good enough to check +0 - .0005" holes
08:58 PM ziper: but yeah its an auction i'm going to tomorrow
08:59 PM XXCoder: ya check ends see if gouges or bad straches
08:59 PM XXCoder: that would kill any or all accuracy it had
08:59 PM XXCoder: unless youre robert in youtube, whos grind god
09:01 PM ziper: what is this? looks like a grinder but whats with the things on top https://jaysugarman.com/wp-content/uploads/2018/07/IMG_8432.jpg
09:02 PM XXCoder: wow no idea
09:02 PM ziper: i figure the mill will go for a lot but i might be able to pick up some other stuff cheap https://jaysugarman.com/listing/full-service-machine-shop-sells-to-the-walls-equipment/
09:03 PM XXCoder: good luck :)
09:03 PM XXCoder: make sure you know prices
09:04 PM robotustra: built linuxcnc from scratch
09:04 PM robotustra: a bunch of dependencies missing
09:05 PM robotustra: like python boost, open gl headers, tcl-dev, tk-dev
09:05 PM robotustra: glu headers also
09:07 PM robotustra: how to add these deps into config file?
09:07 PM XXCoder: fun
09:07 PM robotustra: I maen I did like 10 times "sudo apt-get install ..." before I succeed to configure linuxcnc
09:09 PM ziper: ive never been to an auction before
09:09 PM robotustra: and after I configured it and did "make" I also was missint yapp2
09:10 PM robotustra: now tests are running
09:11 PM XXCoder: once went to auction. didnt go well, no interpeters.
09:15 PM robotustra: 209 tests run, 208 successful, 1 failed + 0 expected
09:15 PM robotustra: Failed: threads.0
09:15 PM robotustra: is it ok?
09:16 PM XXCoder: not too likely you have to look at log and see why threads.0 failed
09:17 PM robotustra: where is the log of tests?
09:17 PM XXCoder: not sure
09:18 PM robotustra: HAL_LIB: HAL will pretend that the exact base period requested is possible.
09:19 PM robotustra: This mode is not suitable for running real hardware.
09:25 PM robotustra: wow, it even works
10:50 PM MrHindsight: anyone have the HF heat gun?
11:47 PM Lcvette[m]: yes i have one
11:47 PM Lcvette[m]: the industrial model
11:47 PM Lcvette[m]: its very robust
11:49 PM Lcvette[m]: Hazzy and I have been tinkering on some probing routines and screen gui ideas and were discussing how many folks liked the PP interface but how it would be nice to have a version more generic for the average linuxcnc user.
11:49 PM Lcvette[m]: so we started working on seeing what that might look like in a simplified version
11:49 PM Lcvette[m]: and after a couple days of layout and tinkering this is what we came up with a sa rough draft
11:50 PM * Lcvette[m] uploaded an image: image.png (142KB) < https://matrix.org/_matrix/media/v1/download/matrix.org/FjpjnCcAcCUIItWuvkLLINpm >
11:51 PM Lcvette[m]: just wanted to get some feedback from the crowd.. we know its not as graphically fancy
11:59 PM MrHindsight: Lcvette[m]: the ~$30 version or ~$45