#linuxcnc Logs

May 31 2018

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:02 AM KimK: CaptHindsight: What do you need made? Anything we could help with? (I'll check back later).
12:39 AM fragalot: Hi
01:16 AM CaptHindsight: KimK: you'd have to be local <100m from Chicago
01:20 AM CaptHindsight: enleth: last time I looked up there before a few hours ago was probably 2015
01:27 AM fragalot: CaptHindsight: you still up to trade weather
01:27 AM fragalot: ?
01:32 AM CaptHindsight: fragalot: for another 24 hours sure
01:33 AM CaptHindsight: after that it's nice here again
01:39 AM CaptHindsight: you got a heat wave there
01:46 AM CaptHindsight: sorry, cool wave
01:48 AM IchGucksLive: hi all from germany (very wet)
01:48 AM IchGucksLive: it hs been a rough night 5hr of thunder and lighning
01:49 AM IchGucksLive: > 50l rain
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: tropical rains here as well
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: 140% humidity
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: animals lined up by 2's
01:57 AM IchGucksLive: im off 2 garden BYE
01:57 AM CaptHindsight: hoe hoe hoe
02:31 AM Deejay: moin
03:38 AM miss0r: oh wow: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9hEO1oiNlk8
03:45 AM gloops: hmm, aside from proving that you can do it, not sure what is gained
03:46 AM miss0r: Perhaps he felt like he needed it ;)
03:48 AM gloops: maybe, but even with changewheels it takes a couple of minutes to change gearing, it would take a long time to recover the time invested in making the gearbox
03:49 AM gloops: (which would take me 6 months lol)
03:56 AM miss0r: yeah. but as we all know; if you don't have real gear leavers, you end up running the same speed for most things, as you can't be bothered to change the pullet around/ change gears
04:00 AM gloops: well, ive got options, stepped pulleys to lathe shaft, stepped pulleys from motor to aux shaft, engage backgear etc
04:03 AM miss0r: All of mine is done with levers. The same goes for my drillpress. I used to have a small drillpress where you need to move a belt around to change the speed. I never realy did it unlress i REALY needed too
04:10 AM gloops: im not saying a gearbox isnt better, but seems a lot of work to do yourself, a lathe with a gearbox isnt a massive investmment if you use one a lot
04:20 AM miss0r: gloops: Perhaps it was not so much the destination, more the journey
05:09 AM miss0r: meh. I'm having one of those lazy days
05:13 AM Spirit532 is now known as Guest348
05:13 AM Spirit532__ is now known as Spirit532
05:19 AM XXCoder: miss0r: reading that comic you linked to lol
05:19 AM XXCoder: man one guys bragging, and stats is under what raspi has
05:19 AM XXCoder: 1.2 ghz, 512 mb ram, and 40 gb hard drive
05:19 AM miss0r: yeah :)
05:20 AM miss0r: Its an older cartoon. I used to think it was funny back then. I guess it still lives up to modern standards?
05:20 AM XXCoder: and maybe in different ways also
05:20 AM XXCoder: I saw one picture "$1.50" "Arm" "Leg" gas prices jokje
05:21 AM XXCoder: I'd not sell arm or leg for $1.50, expecially with current prices of $3.30 per gal here
05:24 AM pjm: we're paying $7.35 / gallon here in the UK
05:24 AM XXCoder: ya usa prices is cheap, but is not to me :P
05:24 AM pjm: yeah especially when it was 1/2 that a few years back
05:25 AM miss0r: pjm: We are up to $7.52 / gallon here in Denmark
05:25 AM miss0r: and I have to go back ALOT of year to see any significant price drop
05:26 AM XXCoder: 128 mb of ddr ram, 2 cooling fans. lol
05:26 AM XXCoder: my video hard got 8 more times ram that that charactor pc. :P
05:26 AM miss0r: plus i'm a smoker, and a pretty standard pack of cigs cost ~$7 here...
05:27 AM pjm: miss0r, yeah i spose we all have to fund brussels any way possible
05:27 AM miss0r: yeah... I like reading stuff like that. I get all fuzzy when I stumble across an old(mid '90) PC catalogue :D
05:27 AM miss0r: pjm: yeah, when it is not frankfurt
05:28 AM miss0r: (most idiotic "solution" ever)
05:32 AM Loetmichel: hmm... i still have a working thinkpad 600e here... does that count for low performance PC still in use?
05:33 AM miss0r: I would say so ;)
05:33 AM miss0r: but they are as close to indestructable as a laptop gets
05:34 AM Loetmichel: it does have a pink display for the first few minutes after starting it (CCFL slowly going bad) but it still works
05:34 AM Loetmichel: and with a somewhat modern linux...
05:34 AM XXCoder: acer aspire one, linux edition
05:34 AM Loetmichel: youtube is out of the question though ;)
05:35 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15999&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:36 AM miss0r: I still have a functional Compaq armada 100S
05:36 AM XXCoder: loet why cant do youtube? my apsire one works with youtube just fine
05:36 AM miss0r: I use it as a tape emulator for my Commodore 64 :]
05:36 AM miss0r: XXCoder: Aspire one is alot faster
05:37 AM Loetmichel: found THAT thing on my junk pile a while ago... no idea where the display went, but surprise: it still works... -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16235&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:37 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16238&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:37 AM XXCoder: lol wow blast from past
05:38 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: 300MHz cpu. its not youtube, its a slideshow ;)
05:38 AM miss0r: haha
05:38 AM Loetmichel: the TP600e
05:38 AM XXCoder: lol
05:39 AM miss0r: I'm going nuts waiting for my 6x2 ballscrew & nut. It should have been here over an hour ago!
05:40 AM Loetmichel: my Thinkpad x21 is still in use regulary for reading ECU faults from my 1999 BMW though
05:41 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14862 <- even running xp... AND having a wifi adaptor...
05:41 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=14865&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
05:42 AM miss0r: I have a HP 2640A with dual casette in the basement :)
05:43 AM miss0r: I'm pretty sure it doesn't work anymore. I havent fired it up for AGES
05:43 AM miss0r: I asked around at one point if anyone was interrested in it - perhaps it had some museum value. But no takers
05:50 AM jthornton: morning
05:50 AM XXCoder: hey
05:51 AM Loetmichel: miss0r: but you are right. old IBM thinkpads live forever. they are pretty much indestructible.
05:51 AM XXCoder: line roads with em
05:52 AM Loetmichel: i would say that that x21 has endured more than i would pain a panasonic toughbook with... and nothing broke ever
05:55 AM Tom_L: morning
05:56 AM Tom_L: quite a storm last night
06:01 AM jthornton: we are supposed to get a T storm tonight
06:02 AM SpeedEvil: Remember, pinky out.
06:03 AM Tom_L: looks like this one may be breaking apart before it gets to you
06:03 AM Tom_L: unless you decide to add fuel to it
06:07 AM miss0r: Why is it I always have to overcomplicate my designs when building something? :D
06:28 AM jthornton: for the same reason it's taking me forever to install a shower pan
06:33 AM SpeedEvil: jthornton: Does it have heat recovery heating the incoming cold water to improve efficiency?
06:34 AM jthornton: no, just a plain shower drain
06:36 AM jthornton: lol it took me a whole day just to convert the drain from 1 1/2" to 2" as it's all under the floor and I had to cut the old pipe with a hacksaw blade through the small hole in the floor
06:41 AM gloops: sometimes quicker to cut a decent access hole or trap
06:42 AM phipli: oooooh
06:42 AM phipli: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cygx0Ng6qMk&t=16m0s
06:42 AM phipli: look how he machines the hex
06:42 AM phipli: I like that. Why didn't I think of that?
06:43 AM XXCoder: theres severial versions of that thing
06:43 AM XXCoder: hex, cube and I think 8 sided one also. hex and cube is most common
06:43 AM phipli: yeah, figured any even number of sides
06:43 AM XXCoder: what about 2? ;)
06:44 AM phipli: :p
06:44 AM XXCoder: 0 is ... even?
06:44 AM phipli: 0 is... special
06:44 AM phipli: wrt 2, if you can find some 0mm thick plate, I'll give it a go
06:44 AM jthornton: gloops: not possible with a wall on top of the floor
06:44 AM XXCoder: one sided is possible
06:44 AM XXCoder: not very useful but..
06:48 AM gloops: had a funny incident some years back, bit awkward to explain, floor in a bathroom extension was creaking badly so had to remove bathroom suite, take floorboards off brace floor joists then replace everything
06:49 AM gloops: bathroom was above garage - to cut it short, owner was just getting out of car when young lad was testing toilet flush - hadnt connect waste pipe properly and it shot off - bloke underneath got a nice free shower lol
06:49 AM phipli: oops :)
06:50 AM jthornton: half the basement is unfinished but that area is finished so sheetrock blocking access to anything in the floor
06:50 AM gloops: doesnt sound as funny as it actually was, we didnt laugh when he appeared at the door face red as beetroot wet through
06:53 AM gloops: thats how it is with plumbing sometimes jthornton, you can make a lot of easy money plumbing, but you have to know which jobs not to take on, you might fit a new boiler in a day - but then another job it can take hours just to get a screw in something
06:54 AM jthornton: aye, converting from a bathtub to a shower was a lot more work than I thought
06:54 AM jthornton: but I'm fixing to start the down hill part yea
08:44 AM JT-Shop: well nothing to ship today so it's shower pan time
09:05 AM JT-Shop: well hell, I have one more stud to fit in the wall and there's a bunch of crap in the way...
09:30 AM phipli: You should have been using the toilet JT-Shop
09:34 AM JT-Shop-2: lol
09:48 AM Tecan: would a triangle or arrow pattern greywheel encoder work with single ir sensor?
09:48 AM Tecan: rather than 2 channels
09:51 AM Tecan: it would show less light at the top before cutting off than the bottom
09:51 AM Tecan: maybe an arrow with slits in it
09:58 AM hazzy-dev: Loetmichel: I have a soft spot for T series ThinkPads, this is only a small selection of my collection: https://i.imgur.com/UxFm9Kg.jpg
09:59 AM Loetmichel: hihi. looks like here... an 600e, an x21, an x60, an t61p, an x220... ;)
09:59 AM hazzy-dev: My main computers are a T510 (stretch) and T410 (win7) and T41 (wheezy)
09:59 AM Loetmichel: i do have others though
10:00 AM Loetmichel: the one in the bathrool is an Asus for a change ;)
10:00 AM hazzy-dev: I have never owned anything but a lenovo :)
10:00 AM hazzy-dev: I have 6 think centers, lol
10:01 AM Loetmichel: no pic though, only a pic of the previous occupant there, a toshiba: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15208&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
10:01 AM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=15205&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
10:01 AM Loetmichel: :-)
10:01 AM hazzy-dev: Lol, a laptop in the bathroom!! I need that!
10:02 AM Loetmichel: that was replaced when it had not enough gpu power any more.
10:02 AM Loetmichel: i like to do 4 hour dippings in the tub... so playing a bit of elite comes naturally ;)
10:03 AM Loetmichel: just be careful not to drwon it ;)
10:03 AM Loetmichel: drown
10:03 AM hazzy-dev: My T41 is great for running LCNC, it has a parport and serial port and with wheezy and RTAI has very low latency, about 5k
10:03 AM hazzy-dev: I would need a toughbox in my bathroom :D
10:04 AM Loetmichel: i dont like toughbooks
10:04 AM Loetmichel: had to rework a few at the company (to meet SDIP27 level A)... they are not that well made imho
10:04 AM Loetmichel: would take an IBM made notebook over a toughbook any time
10:05 AM hazzy-dev: I believe that. The phone companies here used to use them, and they guys were not impressed either
10:05 AM hazzy-dev: The older thinkpads are indestructible, and even quite water resistant
10:06 AM Loetmichel: funny side note: that dirt cheap A4 optical mouse there takes a dive regulary...and it DOES run full of water... even ohn the thigh under water ;)
10:06 AM hazzy-dev: haha
10:07 AM Loetmichel: who would have thought that chinesium can be so resilient ;)
10:07 AM hazzy-dev: I have to say the cutest laptop ever made is the X201: https://i.imgur.com/UxFm9Kg.jpg
10:07 AM hazzy-dev: It has to survive the trip on the boat over, and thats salt water :P
10:08 AM hazzy-dev: Opps. https://i.imgur.com/wlcHO8h.jpg
10:09 AM Loetmichel: x201 is nice
10:09 AM Loetmichel: but lenovo
10:10 AM Loetmichel: they didnt hold up the IBM standards that well
11:50 AM IchGucksLive: hi
11:53 AM IchGucksLive: fragalot, how is your mashien developing
12:01 PM fragalot: IchGucksLive: it's not. I keep hitting roadblocks
12:02 PM fragalot: need a 55° dovetail endmill (a large one) to fix my RF45 first, and I just got an email that they can't ship until end of next week
12:02 PM fragalot: however, I just got a Biax sized package in the mail :-)
12:03 PM IchGucksLive: you will get it done somewhat time this year - Hopefull
12:05 PM fragalot: yeah probably
12:05 PM * fragalot -> shed to play with his biax
12:05 PM fragalot: need to change the power plug on it first.. (wrong kind of earth)
12:07 PM aircooled is now known as hazzy-lab
12:25 PM gloops: american white oak 225mmx25mm £22 a metre
12:25 PM gloops: shocking
12:32 PM IchGucksLive: Michael__, bist du online
12:37 PM gloops: Daily Express
12:37 PM gloops: ‏Verified account @Daily_Express
12:37 PM gloops: 18m18 minutes ago
12:37 PM gloops: US TRADE WAR: Trump ready to BAN German cars from US - bombshell report #tradewar #donaldtrump #germany
12:37 PM gloops: http://bit.ly/2xvpHCK
12:38 PM gloops: its all kicking off now!
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: fragalot, 55° dovetail endmill 9USD including shipment at banggood
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, 2 days to go for a readvice on Donalds timescale
12:40 PM gloops: yes Ichs he probably couldnt think of anything else to troll/tweet
12:40 PM miss0r: gloops: The dovetail cutter needs to have a 1" height on the flutes
12:40 PM IchGucksLive: miss0r, its on me
12:41 PM miss0r: :S
12:41 PM gloops: Trump has however imposed savage tariffs on UK steel today
12:41 PM IchGucksLive: miss0r, then you need a 125x45mm
12:41 PM IchGucksLive: miss0r, and a mk2 clamp
12:41 PM miss0r: IchGucksLive: You have lost me :D Its fragalot that needs the cutter, not me
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: the clamp nut must be mashinened to a min
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: : O
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: this is heavy mashining
12:44 PM Michael__: IchGucksLive, ich bin da unf fahre gerade den Rechner hoch. Wenn du Zeit haast ... ich gehe in den PrivatChat!
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, im in near jetlag as of US trip Thunderstorms and Business
12:46 PM IchGucksLive: Bonjorno Daxxin
12:46 PM fragalot: IchGucksLive: miss0r -> good news. The Biax's brushes look brand new!
12:47 PM fragalot: also, the capacitor in it exploded after 1 minute of use
12:47 PM Daxxin: Buongiorno Ich
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, im in germany
12:48 PM gloops: i feel pretty jetlagged too, although i havent left the village, supposed to be attending a booze up in 1 hour...sigh
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, one more night of heavy lighning ahead
12:49 PM Daxxin: here taly here
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, and as i got the main area overlok im always involved
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, as special as Holiday near 10k people in the area
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, alot of italiens on the campground here
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, familia de otto bambini
12:51 PM Daxxin: wow you have lots kids
12:51 PM gloops: italiens lol
12:51 PM fragalot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/ENvaFfaJpYRMYDbC3 <= this thing blew up..
12:51 PM Daxxin: aliens
12:51 PM Daxxin: >(
12:51 PM Daxxin: lol
12:51 PM fragalot: at least, i'm hoping that's the only issue
12:51 PM gloops: Daxxin what is the general political feeling in Italy at the moment?
12:51 PM Daxxin: hungry
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: Pasta Aldente
12:52 PM gloops: our dubious press leads us to believe there is deep discontent in italy atm
12:52 PM Daxxin: where like a super jet without engines
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, it is italy what do you expect
12:53 PM IchGucksLive: Berlusconi the best since trump
12:53 PM Daxxin: they can be friend
12:53 PM gloops: Ichs the Italians have voted for the old lega party - mussolinis party
12:53 PM Daxxin: business only
12:54 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, but younger Italians dont belive in them
12:55 PM Daxxin: even the older :)
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: its like we need a Change as obama
12:55 PM gloops: and now Spain appears to be turmoil
12:56 PM Daxxin: for me i hope Obama the next Italy premier ..if he want
12:56 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, i personly cand belive that germany runs that perfect
12:57 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, business education healt livestyle even sotial
12:57 PM Daxxin: plenty Germans people here for vacation
12:57 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, but we got better weather at the moment then italy and spain
12:58 PM Daxxin: are u sure
12:58 PM IchGucksLive: 28deg full sun
12:59 PM IchGucksLive: Berlin reatched 34 today
12:59 PM Daxxin: sad to say there no beach over there lol
12:59 PM IchGucksLive: ive never seen that many Hikers at the yearstime
12:59 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, Bathlake 1km
01:00 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, naked bathing only to 10am
01:00 PM Daxxin: better in the bathtube naked
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: then they move to a water turbine waterway near bye its in a shilded forest no view
01:01 PM Daxxin: by the way try to compile linuxcnc with io.Live nice RT distro
01:01 PM Daxxin: natural wave are much more nice
01:01 PM gloops: maybe reached 25 here today, we dont really want it any warmer
01:02 PM Daxxin: here 30 today
01:02 PM gloops: Daxxin what machine are you working on?
01:02 PM Daxxin: soon have grapes trees to make wine in Germany too
01:02 PM Daxxin: small cnc machine 3 axis TB6550
01:03 PM gloops: ok, and you are having problems with it?
01:03 PM Daxxin: no no just asking if domrone tried alredy this fistro before wasting time
01:03 PM Daxxin: someone*
01:04 PM Daxxin: i have graphic card trouble with linuxcnc distro
01:04 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, here is my YT channel on this https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmwhCL92ZQRSVqFe3jGwJSQ
01:04 PM Daxxin: drivers troubles
01:04 PM IchGucksLive: i use alot of tb6560
01:04 PM gloops: i havent, IchGucksLive may help
01:05 PM IchGucksLive: the 3Axis board
01:05 PM Daxxin: wow lots fotages
01:05 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, all for you
01:05 PM gloops: IchGucksLive is very experienced with this type of machine, he has made thousands of them
01:06 PM Daxxin: nice for sure have lots questions
01:06 PM Daxxin: this distro is made for musicians RT PREEMT
01:06 PM Daxxin: very nice look
01:07 PM Daxxin: Debian based
01:07 PM Daxxin: ..brb
01:07 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, http://tv-profi-gmbh.de/masch_baumh_k.jpg
01:08 PM gloops: Daxxin why arent you using the standard wheezy build linuxcnc for this simple machine?
01:08 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, mashine View https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PXYliAOGsMM
01:15 PM gregcnc: I was surfing the net and saw Haas uses stove heating elements for their brake resistor packs
01:15 PM IchGucksLive: Sorry Poer out
01:15 PM IchGucksLive: power
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: Michael__, Stromausfall
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: Michael__, STRG+ALT+T
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: dann nautilus
01:18 PM IchGucksLive: Daxxin, if you need a ready made config i can send you one
01:18 PM IchGucksLive: or you can download it
01:19 PM fragalot: IchGucksLive: do you have a link to that big 55° dovetail you found?
01:24 PM IchGucksLive: fragalot, wabeco tools
01:25 PM IchGucksLive: fragalot, does it take a D100
01:26 PM fragalot: yes
01:28 PM IchGucksLive: there is a new one for 70Eur
01:29 PM fragalot: I can't find it
01:29 PM fragalot: I found one by deelat that I ordered but they're taking forever to ship :P
01:29 PM IchGucksLive: https://www.ebay.de/itm/Winkelstirnfraser-HM-100-x-55-10-Schneiden-links-Formfraser-Fraser-Neu-Z117/291737750530?_trkparms=aid%3D444000%26algo%3DSOI.DEFAULT%26ao%3D1%26asc%3D50553%26meid%3D9e5f2c8befdf4bb48fed2d8bcbd5096e%26pid%3D100752%26rk%3D4%26rkt%3D4%26sd%3D301213008538%26itm%3D291737750530&_trksid=p2047675.c100752.m1982
01:30 PM fragalot: that. is. perfect.
01:30 PM fragalot: you should have shown me this last sunday! :P
01:31 PM IchGucksLive: have been in the Airplane maybe
01:38 PM Daxxin: <IchGucksLive>gone
01:41 PM Tom_L: fragalot, is that 55 deg in the right plane? the one i found looked like it came to more of a point
01:41 PM Tom_L: also it looks like a reverse cutter too
01:42 PM Tom_L: i suppose it makes a difference which image you look at..
01:42 PM fragalot: it is a reverse cutter
01:42 PM fragalot: as for the right plane, I believe so
01:42 PM fragalot: large side being the bottom
01:43 PM Tom_L: right
01:43 PM Tom_L: looks like it might do the trick
01:43 PM Daxxin: gloops its ok to use normal distro
01:43 PM fragalot: I've already ordered that other one though
01:43 PM Daxxin: ?
01:43 PM Tom_L: have they shipped?
01:43 PM fragalot: not yet
01:43 PM fragalot: but I doubt this ebay seller will be faster
01:43 PM Tom_L: maybe you can cancel it
01:43 PM Tom_L: hmm
01:44 PM fragalot: hm. I think my DNS went kaput
01:45 PM fragalot: what's the windows command to refresh it again?
01:45 PM Tom_L: no idea
01:46 PM fragalot: ipconfig /flushdns .. Which hasn't helped
01:48 PM Daxxin: so the realtime kernel its ok only for the big and complex machines?
01:49 PM Spirit532 is now known as Guest10911
01:49 PM Spirit532__ is now known as Spirit532
01:49 PM Tom_L: not so
01:50 PM Tom_L: Daxxin what hardware are you going to use?
01:51 PM fragalot: Tom_L: I think I'll give the Deelat one a go first. It seems to be better suited to cut on the bottom face too.
01:52 PM Tom_L: well you know what you've got to work with better than I
01:53 PM Tom_L: the one here would have been way too costly
01:53 PM fragalot: the deelat one was €46 which turned out to be closer to €80 total
01:53 PM fragalot: so same price as the ebay one
01:53 PM fragalot: but HSS.. but at the same time side-cutting which always helps
01:53 PM Tom_L: iirc they found a cutter they would have to modify and that cutter cost itself was over 200 bux
01:53 PM Tom_L: iirc
01:53 PM fragalot: sounds very reasonable
01:54 PM fragalot: i've had ONE quote so far which was £280 + VAT + shipping + 5wk lead
01:54 PM Tom_L: the problem you run into is the LOC
01:54 PM Tom_L: most cutters are thinner
01:54 PM fragalot: yup
01:55 PM Tom_L: i was kinda surprised to find that oddball one at the scrap
01:55 PM fragalot: yeah funky one that
01:55 PM fragalot: makes me wonder what the original application one
01:55 PM fragalot: was*
01:56 PM Tom_L: hard to say. we run into alot of special ground cutters here
01:57 PM Tom_L: i got some reverse flute 10mm reamers from him once
01:57 PM Tom_L: for gun barrels
01:57 PM Tom_L: no idea why the flutes were reversed... not the cutter direction the flute angle
01:58 PM fragalot: Tom_L: because standard ones would get trapped in the rifling?
01:58 PM Tom_L: could be
01:58 PM fragalot: or they get pulled through rather than pushed
01:58 PM hazzy-lab: Tom_L: Most gun reamers get pulled thru to they are in tension instead of compression
01:59 PM Daxxin: <Tom_L> simple small 3 axis cnc
01:59 PM hazzy-lab: I have seen old gun reamers with wooden shafts, worked fine!
02:00 PM Tom_L: Daxxin parallel port or mesa hardware?
02:00 PM Daxxin: parallel
02:00 PM Tom_L: hazzy yeah it did just fine
02:00 PM Tom_L: Daxxin old pc may work just fine, just need to run a latency test on it from the live cd
02:01 PM Daxxin: ok but what the correct value for latency test?
02:02 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/install/latency-test.html
02:03 PM Tom_L: typically RTAI will work better on older hardware than preempt-rt
02:04 PM miss0r: Z axis for the EDM nearing completion: https://imgur.com/a/XTBeYQL
02:15 PM fragalot: syyl: my biax arrived! I don't think this thing has ever seen a hard life.
02:15 PM fragalot: syyl: oh and also, it blew up already
02:17 PM Tom_L: hard life until it saw the likes of you !
02:38 PM Isleape1 is now known as Isleape
02:47 PM fragalot: miss0r: my mill build: https://imgur.com/gallery/adCavIq
02:56 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
03:08 PM stephanisk: good evening everyone
03:12 PM fragalot: Hello
03:13 PM miss0r: fragalot: I damn near broke the electrode spindle !
03:13 PM fragalot: ._. how
03:13 PM miss0r: I had some issues getting the teflon core out, so I have it a few easy tabs with a plastic hammer. I forgot that only the end of the hammer was plastic, the middle part is cast aluminum
03:14 PM miss0r: So, now I have some nasty scars inside a slide fit bore...
03:14 PM fragalot: ><
03:14 PM miss0r: I need to polish them out >.<
03:14 PM fragalot: careful.
03:14 PM miss0r: yeah... it would make a nice paperweight, though
03:14 PM fragalot: dummy safe
03:14 PM miss0r: :D
03:15 PM miss0r: bbiab
03:22 PM stephanisk: i am trying to make a vismach simulation of my own machine, have spent around 10 hours of trying , with actually nothing to show for. So i want to take it step by step and see if it boots
03:23 PM stephanisk: now the issue is what does the file need to contain to simply boot and not get the error my_machine_gui exited without becoming ready
03:26 PM hazzy-lab: stephanisk: Sorry I can't help, but were you at least able to find the files you were looking for?
03:26 PM stephanisk: yes, janos from hungary explained me where the files go
03:27 PM hazzy-lab: Ok, good
03:27 PM stephanisk: cause honestly, with no knowledge of linux and actually being able to get anything to work on windows, its frustrating, its like i have absolutely no computer knowledge
03:27 PM stephanisk: (driving me insane )
03:30 PM stephanisk: i would just need to find out what the python file needs to just not give the error of "exited without becoming ready"
03:31 PM hazzy-lab: Surely somebody here knows about vismach
03:32 PM stephanisk: ok, got through the ready error. apparantly the c.ready() is mandatory :)
03:33 PM hazzy-lab: Great!
03:35 PM stephanisk: and we are back at ready error
03:36 PM stephanisk: :)
03:36 PM CaptHindsight: is there anyone lurking here with a machine shop within 100 miles of Chicago that is looking for work?
03:36 PM stephanisk: didn't change anything, got a pin error and now back to the not ready, cant find what i needed to do to get the pin error
03:36 PM CaptHindsight: pm if you want to stay lurking
03:53 PM stephanisk: can anyone tell me what the most basic lines are that are required for vismach to make it through startup?
04:03 PM stephanisk: alright, found the basic layout of a vismach file
04:03 PM stephanisk: that took me than exactly 7hours and 55 minutes :)
04:21 PM miss0r: syyl: you around?
04:22 PM miss0r: is that a no? :P
04:40 PM Deejay: gn8
04:43 PM stephanisk: is there another way of designing this vismach thing than every time opening linuxcnc to see where the parts are showing?
04:50 PM * JT-Shop knows for sure one way to NOT install a shower pan
05:04 PM stephanisk: i have seen the light :))) i understand how vismach works and how it combines moving elements
05:04 PM stephanisk: so strange, that all of a sudden you are able to look at for example the 5axisgui code and for it to make perfect sense, while 1 hour ago i didn't understand a single line
05:04 PM phipli: JT-Shop, what happened?
05:05 PM stephanisk: the brain is a mysterious thing
05:05 PM stephanisk: that is what happens :)
05:05 PM * phipli has only just finished checking the graduate's work and is grumpy because it has been a 13 hour day
05:06 PM stephanisk: sometimes i just can't figure it out how in a millisecond the brain has come up with the correct framework and all of a sudden things make sense where it was jibberish a second before
05:07 PM stephanisk: i can call it a night. 10 hours work but i understand the workings of another component of linuxcnc
05:08 PM stephanisk: ( still keeping one in the pocket, the kinematics part, that will probably be a 25 hour thing )
05:08 PM hazzy-lab: stephanisk: Hurray!
05:08 PM stephanisk: thanks
05:08 PM hazzy-lab: The brain was working on it the whole time, you tune could not tell :)
05:08 PM hazzy-lab: stephanisk: It would be great if you could document what you have learned to help other people in the same situation
05:08 PM stephanisk: :)
05:09 PM stephanisk: well i wrote a how-to guide yesterday about virtual box and linuxcnc on the forum, i will write a vismach basics tomorrow as i go along programming my own machine
05:10 PM stephanisk: going to think a little how to explain this, cause i get it, its a different thing explaining how i came to understand it :)
05:12 PM stephanisk: a good night to you all, good luck in all endeavours all around the globe!
05:12 PM hazzy-lab: gn8
07:52 PM CaptHindsight: hazzy-dev: whats the virtualbox on LCNC all about?
07:52 PM CaptHindsight: or is it just Virtualbox with Debian that happens to have LCNC installed?
08:00 PM aircooled: CaptHindsight: I was wondering the same thing :)
08:00 PM aircooled: I have no clue, guess I should try to find the thread he mentioned on the forum
08:01 PM aircooled is now known as hazzy-lab
08:06 PM CaptHindsight: kewl
08:35 PM Vitran: I am trying to get a servo to run for the first time. Not sure what's up. I will have to tackle it tomorrow, but it is a 7i77 driving a Delta ASD-A2-2023-U
08:35 PM Vitran: I got the analog pins in place to where it says on the delta board
08:36 PM Vitran: and I set analog1 to 1. The enable pins are live
08:36 PM Vitran: likely something dumb like misswiring between the board and the drive
08:55 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.deltaacdrives.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/06/ASDA-A2-User-Manual.pdf
08:56 PM CaptHindsight: connections are in Chapter 3 of above manual ^^
08:56 PM CaptHindsight: Vitran: ^^
08:57 PM CaptHindsight: Chapter 5 Trial Run and Tuning Procedure
08:57 PM CaptHindsight: 5.2 Applying Power to the Drive
08:58 PM CaptHindsight: the drive gives you Error Codes
08:58 PM CaptHindsight: on its display
08:59 PM CaptHindsight: Vitran: do you have the control software and interface cable for the drive?
08:59 PM CaptHindsight: the drive has lots of self test features
09:00 PM CaptHindsight: Chapter 9 Communications
09:03 PM Tom_L: capn, find a machine shop yet?
10:10 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_L: not in LCNC
10:12 PM CaptHindsight: there are two in my building and several within few miles
10:24 PM Vitran: CaptHindsight: I have been reading that manual a few times. As is it says something akin to analog along the front. I don't have the control cable yet.
10:25 PM Vitran: But alas, I got to get to sleep. I will likely spend Friday evening tackling it.
10:31 PM CaptHindsight: .weather
10:31 PM theCockerel: Yahoo! Weather - North Pole, AK, US: Cloudy, 14°C (57°F), Humidity: 60%, Light air 1.8m/s (↓)
10:31 PM CaptHindsight: it lives
10:32 PM CaptHindsight: .help
10:32 PM theCockerel: Hang on, I'm creating a list.
10:32 PM theCockerel: I've posted a list of my commands at https://ptpb.pw/sriB - You can see more info about any of these commands by doing .help <command> (e.g. .help time)
10:34 PM CaptHindsight: .tell Vitran How do you know how the drive is configured?
10:34 PM theCockerel: CaptHindsight: I'll pass that on when Vitran is around.
11:40 PM nallar is now known as Ross