#linuxcnc Logs

May 28 2018

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:23 AM fragalot: hi
12:47 AM Tecan: http://netpipe.ca/zen/albums/Electronics/CNC/hotend-pla.jpg
01:15 AM gloops: whats happening there Tecan?
01:20 AM Tecan: building a weather station
01:27 AM Tecan: http://www.netpipe.ca/zen/Electronics/Projects/weatherstation.jpg
01:30 AM gloops: is this yours?
01:30 AM Tecan: yeas
01:32 AM Tecan: http://www.netpipe.ca/zen/Electronics/Projects/weather2.jpg
01:32 AM Tecan: the rain gauge
01:32 AM Tecan: gotta put a ir sensor in there still
01:34 AM gloops: hmm, i dont know much about these things, but i cant work out what the cnc part does lol
01:35 AM MarcelineVQ: prints the other parts? :>
01:35 AM Tecan: its a hotend for extruding. had to modify the stock davinci setup to be able to print pla
01:36 AM gloops: oh right
01:45 AM gloops: well, i still havent found any kind of high density rigid foam hack, i dont think there is one
01:46 AM gloops: i.e nothing used for everyday stuff or commonly available for other purposes is made from it
01:47 AM Tecan: if i get more rain from a tin roof slit then i can measure even light rains
01:47 AM gloops: Tecan if you catch rain from a roof wont that give an inflated reading?
01:48 AM gloops: unless you calculate the area of the roof and compensate accordingly
01:48 AM Tecan: yes
01:49 AM Tecan: i have a small hole in the 2l pop bottle lid that would probably need to be bigger, i tried using another clam jug but the water ran down the sides ratherg than falling on the spot
01:52 AM gloops: theres some plans for these on the BBC website i think, they encouraged people all over the country to make them, to increase the amount of meteorological info coming in
01:54 AM gloops: https://www.metoffice.gov.uk/learning/weather-for-kids/weather-station/rain-gauge
01:58 AM IchGucksLive: morning from germany
01:58 AM IchGucksLive: XXCoder, cool trip to your state is over
01:58 AM IchGucksLive: im off 2 garden
02:00 AM XXCoder: well ich hope you enjoyed the trip, and read logs
02:05 AM gloops: https://i.pinimg.com/originals/13/af/f8/13aff8e6d2a2ab3b5fd303a1caf9a4c9.jpg
02:05 AM gloops: this typical type of sign
02:07 AM gloops: possible to make in wood, easy to design/get code, but with wood you have some messing around, gluing boards up, and especially the border shouldnt really be machined from solid piece of wood
02:07 AM gloops: it should be frame - and all that is work
02:07 AM gloops: with foam - no such problems
02:08 AM XXCoder: well can always machine em in sections
02:08 AM XXCoder: cheaper
02:08 AM gloops: from wood?
02:10 AM XXCoder: foam is basically unbeatable
02:10 AM XXCoder: but if want wood
02:10 AM gloops: how about the outer frame from wood? thats a nightmare
02:11 AM XXCoder: sections with conenctions built in
02:11 AM gloops: mitres, profiling, joining, the day is already over lol
02:11 AM XXCoder: so basically click together
02:11 AM XXCoder: I guess so lol
02:11 AM XXCoder: I cant wait for matter printer
02:12 AM XXCoder: not like 3d printer, it places all atoms and builds everything. for example, wood, it creates fiber and etc
02:12 AM gloops: some kind of outdoor durable composite that doesnt cost an arm and a leg - machine the lot from one block
02:12 AM sensille: "please refill neutron reservoir"?
02:13 AM gloops: XXCoder probably within 30 years
02:14 AM gloops: high density foam is like £100 per quarter sheet, fine for shops who are happy to pay, not going to sell many to joe public at those costs though
02:15 AM XXCoder: 30 years? nah more like multiple by 10
02:25 AM Deejay: moin
02:44 AM Loetmichel: mornin'. Funny everytime: bathing or showering, then driving to work with wet hair in an open canopy convertible... $me looks like the hairdryer exploded on me this morining ;)
02:49 AM XXCoder: heys
04:13 AM gloops: font might be a bit rough https://ibb.co/nxO3dJ
06:01 AM jthornton: morning
06:08 AM Deejay: hey
06:12 AM jthornton: got the shower faucet installed yesterday next up the drain and some blocking for the shower pan
07:01 AM Tom_L: morning
07:20 AM jthornton: morning
07:20 AM XXCoder: hey
07:20 AM XXCoder: jt boy room networking, seal paint, isulation and drywalls is done
07:23 AM jthornton: nice
07:23 AM jthornton: I can't wait to get this damn shower pan installed
07:23 AM XXCoder: it sounded strightforward, whats issue?
07:24 AM jthornton: just the details getting it right
07:24 AM jthornton: setting the shower pan is a one shot deal lol gotta be right
07:28 AM XXCoder: interesting. what makes it irreversabke>?
07:28 AM jthornton: found a better faucet Saturday and got that installed yesterday
07:28 AM jthornton: mortar mix
07:28 AM jthornton: the shower pan has to be supported by a bed of mortar mix
07:28 AM XXCoder: interesting. so if theres mistake its hard to undo
07:29 AM jthornton: if you wait till it's hardened yes
07:30 AM jthornton: plus on the end opposite the drain the gap is 1 1/2" inch which is more than the height your supposed to have for the motar mix so I need to fill in with some wood pieces
07:55 AM asdfasd: are you good at precision machining?
07:55 AM asdfasd: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-rfcOmlgeKI
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09:17 AM zorce: Hi, I'm new to cnc machinery but plan to build my very first cnc using DQ542MA drivers to control nema 23 servos for a 3 axis cnc mill. When googleing around I find that almost everybody use old parallell port controller board.. Can anybody suggest a usb or ethernet compatible controller board.
09:20 AM zorce: a raspberry pi setup would be ideal
09:20 AM zorce: any suggestions on that?
09:29 AM hazzy-dev: Tecan: Nice work on the whether station!
09:29 AM rmu: zorce: ethernet-based: mesa 7i80. usb won't work with linuxcnc
09:29 AM Tecan: thanks
09:29 AM rmu: zorce: with rpi you could use mesa 7i90 and spi
09:29 AM hazzy-dev: Tecan: Have you decided what your going to use for the data logging yet? I use weewx and like it very much
09:29 AM hazzy-dev: http://www.weewx.com/
09:31 AM hazzy-dev: This it the web page weewx throws up for my station: http://weather.kcjengr.com/
09:32 AM Roguish: hazzy-dev: what station is it? brand, model?
09:32 AM hazzy-dev: Peet Bros Ultimeter 2100
09:33 AM hazzy-dev: http://www.peetbros.com/shop/item.aspx?itemid=2
09:34 AM hazzy-dev: It is pricey, but not when you consider that the cheap units only last a year, the Ultimeter is built like a tank
09:34 AM Roguish: this is a few block away from me. https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KCAWALNU125
09:35 AM Tecan: weewx looks like the option to have with that. i was thinking of just dumping it to a sql db
09:36 AM zorce: rmu: does the mesa boards come with drivers for linuxcnc? What drivers communicate with the fpga in this case?
09:37 AM rmu: zorce: mesa boards come with firmware compatible with linuxcnc
09:37 AM rmu: zorce: search for hostmot2
09:38 AM Roguish: zorce: it's all pretty well documented: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/
09:38 AM Roguish: and http://www.mesanet.com/
09:38 AM zorce: thanks will read up on it
09:39 AM Roguish: also https://forum.linuxcnc.org/forum/index
09:40 AM zorce: would be interesting to read on a actual build thread or something with the mesa boards
09:40 AM Roguish: check cnczone
09:43 AM JT-Shop: plenty of build threads on the LinuxCNC forum
09:45 AM hazzy-dev: Roguish: This is my station on WU, temp is not being reported, I need to look into that: https://www.wunderground.com/personal-weather-station/dashboard?ID=KGAATLAN392
09:46 AM Roguish: ok. nice.
11:54 AM jthornton: I need to figure out a way to bag my grass clippings from the rider
11:57 AM IchGucksLive: hi all
11:57 AM hazzy-dev: howdy Ichs
11:58 AM IchGucksLive: im answering 230 mails after this offline days
11:58 AM hazzy-dev: How was your trip to the US?
12:04 PM IchGucksLive: hazzy-dev, HARD
12:04 PM IchGucksLive: we got a Forest camp setup
12:05 PM IchGucksLive: and harvested about 120m3 per hour fully automated on 30deg Rockwall
12:06 PM IchGucksLive: they got more then 10 death in WA Woodchop Related
12:10 PM IchGucksLive: hazzy-dev, quite overwouming area around the HOP production Valley yakima
12:11 PM hazzy-dev: 120m3 / hr is a is a pretty good cut rate!
12:12 PM hazzy-dev: Yeah, that is a beautiful area up there
12:24 PM IchGucksLive: hazzy-dev, lonly like alaska
12:25 PM IchGucksLive: you go out of a town and it is wildness
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: someone new said he choins the chennel this evening
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: but i do not se him
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: hi gloops
12:44 PM gloops: hi Ichs
12:44 PM gloops: very warm again here
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: gloops, i got a question from todays mails
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: you did solve a EM problem
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: how on advice drom someone
12:45 PM gloops: well yes, - grounded the BOB
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: 5V or and 12V
12:45 PM gloops: wire from pcc gnd 5v - to metal cabinet
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: ok
12:45 PM gloops: instant cure
12:46 PM gloops: or just run the wire to any common gnd
12:47 PM gloops: have found my timing belts have stretched a bit, i suppose thats normal after a bit of use from new
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: no good Quality maybe
12:53 PM gloops: yes they were cheap, also need to be wider
12:54 PM IchGucksLive: 2Nm 10mm
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: 3nm 16mm
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: <4Nm 25
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: >
12:57 PM DocHopper: Hey LinuxCNCers, I just got a pressure transducer similar to this one: https://www.ebay.com/itm/Pressure-transducer-or-sender-for-oil-fuel-air-water-15-100-200-300-1000-psi-5V/391947127662
12:57 PM gloops: ive got 10mm on 3Nm
12:57 PM DocHopper: So I need a pulldown resistor?
12:57 PM DocHopper: Or is there a good way to test if it already has one built in?
01:00 PM DocHopper: I guess it has to have some method of accomplishing that built in, otherwise it couldn't vary the voltage output.
01:00 PM gloops: no idea
01:10 PM IchGucksLive: ok im off BYE for today
01:17 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.gettyimages.fr/detail/photo-d'actualité/jacques-de-vaucanson-turn-off-iron-lathe-paris-photo-dactualité/641438242 Meanwhile, in 1751.
01:24 PM gloops: whats the framework then, solid cast?
01:24 PM SpeedEvil: Seems to be bars
01:24 PM SpeedEvil: http://homepages.tig.com.au/~dispater/turning.htm goes into some more detail halfway down
01:25 PM fragalot: Hi.
01:25 PM SpeedEvil: search on 'main problems'
01:27 PM gloops: have read notes
01:28 PM gloops: well, jobs to be done, been playing with some foam, need to play some more with it
01:29 PM fragalot: hmph. 2/5 contacted grinding shops that I contacted have declined service
01:30 PM gloops: i dont know how they stay in business in belgium fragalot
01:30 PM fragalot: one does business to business only, the other simply couldn't make what I needed
01:30 PM gloops: and it seems to indicate there would be an opportunity for a small general machines shop where you are
01:30 PM fragalot: there definitely is
01:32 PM fragalot: the only 'hobby grade' machine shops I know of are at least 70km away
01:33 PM fragalot: with hobby grade, I mean actual usable machines, not your average DIY shop that carries a Ryobi drill
01:38 PM miss0r: goodevening
01:38 PM fragalot: hi
01:38 PM JT-Shop-2: hi
01:43 PM miss0r: I just ordered 15kg of iberco ribs :]
01:43 PM * fragalot changed his mind about the thing
01:43 PM fragalot: :P
01:44 PM * miss0r just changed the order to 20kgs :P
01:44 PM fragalot: lol
01:44 PM fragalot: miss0r: 40% of the grind shops I contacted have responded so far
01:44 PM fragalot: all have denied me :<
01:44 PM miss0r: Yeah, I had a fear that would be the case
01:46 PM miss0r: It sounds like you need to do it with a swivel head and an endmill
01:46 PM fragalot: tricky to get right down into the root of the dovetail
01:46 PM miss0r: You'd need to clear out the corner a bit for the operation to be a success, but I think you can manage without a bit of that
01:47 PM fragalot: sure, but to poke a 25mm long endmill down into the root of it would mean i'd have to clear out quite a lot of material if I want to be able to use anything remotely rigid
01:47 PM miss0r: oh, forget about rigid.
01:47 PM miss0r: Use a long slim 3mm endmill, and take a shitton of passes
01:47 PM miss0r: only 0.2-3mm at a time
01:47 PM miss0r: (using the quill)
01:48 PM miss0r: Then you'd have to do a once over with a scraper afterwards.
01:48 PM fragalot: his large mill won't allow that kind of angle
01:48 PM fragalot: the smaller (still huge for me) one has a free tilting table, but can't get the full travel out of it
01:48 PM miss0r: alright.. When can I expect it delievered here?
01:48 PM sensille: win 33
01:48 PM miss0r: :
01:49 PM sensille: oops
01:49 PM fragalot: miss0r: :P
01:49 PM fragalot: what I /should/ have done
01:49 PM fragalot: is put it in my car
01:49 PM fragalot: and fetched me some ribs
01:49 PM fragalot: :D
01:49 PM miss0r: should've would've
01:49 PM fragalot: couldn't've
01:49 PM fragalot: :(
01:50 PM Tom_L: fragalot mill on hold?
01:50 PM miss0r: :D hehe
01:50 PM Tom_L: surely not...
01:50 PM fragalot: Tom_L: mill is indeed on hold
01:50 PM fragalot: one thing at a time for my frail brain :P
01:50 PM miss0r: Well, being reasonable about it, you'd need to be here friday afternoon, so we could spend the rest of the evening doing that... because I'm pretty sure that saturday and sunday is a 'no machining' zone
01:51 PM miss0r: Unless of course loosing fingers is on your bucket list ;)
01:51 PM fragalot: Tom_L: unless you happen to be able to find me a 55° dovetail cutter that's at least 25mm high? :P
01:52 PM Tom_L: my shop will make one for you and send it
01:52 PM Tom_L: seriously...
01:52 PM fragalot: Tom_L: care to get me a quote on one?
01:52 PM Tom_L: you'd have to ask them tuesday
01:52 PM fragalot: I'm going to need more information. :P
01:53 PM Tom_L: https://superiortoolservice.com/
01:53 PM Tom_L: worldwide shipping
01:53 PM * miss0r perks up
01:53 PM Tom_L: they made me a carbide chamfer tool in 3 hrs
01:54 PM Tom_L: i was quite impressed with the turnaround
01:54 PM Tom_L: was $28 but for that kind of service i didn't mind
01:54 PM fragalot: i'm not expecting to get away with $28 for this one
01:54 PM Tom_L: i guarantee they can make it for you
01:54 PM Tom_L: as to the cost i can't tell you
01:54 PM miss0r: Tom_L: I don't get any hits on 'dovetail' on that site of yours
01:55 PM fragalot: can't find an order form for one either
01:55 PM * fragalot sketches one up & just emails them the drawing
01:55 PM Tom_L: i'd call them tomorrow
01:55 PM miss0r: fragalot: is your murican' sufficient to speak with them on the phone?
01:56 PM fragalot: 'tis
01:56 PM miss0r: Remember to use the words 'nuke' and 'steak bbq' alot ;)
01:56 PM Tom_L: you want hss or carbide?
01:56 PM fragalot: either
01:56 PM miss0r: fragalot: Keep in mind that CI is hard on the tools
01:57 PM miss0r: if you order HSS, make it two or three. If carbide, atleast consider ordering two
01:57 PM Tom_L: let me check something... what about a 1" arbor one?
01:57 PM fragalot: miss0r: yup
01:57 PM fragalot: Tom_L: That's fine, the main concern is getting the 55° angle on the dovetail
01:57 PM * Tom_L goes to the shop to check...
01:57 PM fragalot: if I can cut the dovetail, AND the flat in one go, that'd be fantastic, if not.. i'll make it work.
01:58 PM miss0r: you 'can' but you shouldn't
01:58 PM miss0r: well, atleast you should not have both surfaces engaged at once ;)
01:58 PM fragalot: well no :P
01:58 PM fragalot: but i'd still like the bottom to be cut with a single motion
01:59 PM miss0r: 'some' peopl(e) in here needs to be told stuff like that ;)
01:59 PM fragalot: and since a face mill can't reach beneath the undercut...
01:59 PM miss0r: make a crazy flycutter :P
02:00 PM miss0r: why you ask? why not!
02:01 PM fragalot: I have considered that
02:02 PM miss0r: Just thinking about it now.. That would actualy not be that hard
02:02 PM miss0r: If it fails with the siperiortoolservice stuff, I will make you a single point cutter, that can handle it
02:05 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Cutter.jpg
02:06 PM Tom_L: fragalot, too bad it's 45 deg
02:06 PM fragalot: 45 is easy to find
02:06 PM Tom_L: yeah
02:06 PM Tom_L: may not be tall enough anyway
02:07 PM fragalot: ffs
02:07 PM Tom_L: i just rememberd i had that but i've never used it so i never measured it
02:07 PM fragalot: superiortoolservice: "your text has exceeded the maximum amount of characters"
02:07 PM fragalot: ... what is the limit? TELL ME. WHAT DID YOU SEE!
02:07 PM fragalot: :P
02:08 PM fragalot: 240 characters >.<
02:09 PM Tom_L: personally i'd just drop by and have a chat with em :D
02:09 PM Tom_L: but then i'm just a few blocks from them
02:09 PM fragalot: sure, I'll hop on the plane and get right on that
02:09 PM Tom_L: send me the info and could ask them if you want
02:10 PM Tom_L: does it need to have a metric arbor?
02:10 PM fragalot: 55° dovetail cutter, L.O.C. > 31mm, O.D. > 50mm
02:10 PM fragalot: no, imperial is fine
02:11 PM Tom_L: is the 31mm the height or the length of the hypotenuse?
02:11 PM fragalot: hypo
02:11 PM fragalot: height at least 25mm
02:11 PM Tom_L: ok
02:11 PM Tom_L: so 1" 55 deg 1" arbor would work
02:11 PM fragalot: yup
02:12 PM Tom_L: i could also stop by my surplus guy and see what he's got
02:12 PM Tom_L: could be he'd have one that could be reground alot cheaper
02:13 PM fragalot: a 60° reground would work fine too, yeah
02:18 PM fragalot: let's see if mr-tools.co.uk can help :P
02:23 PM Tom_L: so approx 1.25" LOC.. would be easier to tell them that
02:25 PM fragalot: yup
02:27 PM Tom_L: if the scrap guy has one he'd probably sell it for the scrap weight
02:27 PM fragalot: more concerned about getting this over with ASAP than saving a few $
02:28 PM Tom_L: they threw tons of cutters away when they moved
02:28 PM Tom_L: i'm just thinking if superior had something to start with it would go quicker
02:28 PM Tom_L: they possibly could have something in their used bin they can resharpen too
02:29 PM Tom_L: my chamfer was a broken endmill
02:30 PM Tom_L: where are you?
02:31 PM fragalot: belgium
02:34 PM Tom_L: the ones i find online go up to 1" width of cut
02:35 PM fragalot: i'm most concerned about the height
02:35 PM fragalot: the width, if it can't give me the full ~2" in one pass, I can do in 2 passes
02:35 PM Tom_L: you said 31mm cut width
02:35 PM Tom_L: ok
02:35 PM fragalot: no, flute length
02:35 PM fragalot: hypothenuse = 31mm
02:35 PM Tom_L: that's what i mean
02:35 PM fragalot: Right. xD
02:36 PM Tom_L: i assume when they specify the cut width that's what they are talking about
02:36 PM fragalot: I wouldn't make that assumption if there's no diagramm included
02:36 PM fragalot: otherwise i'd have already found a 25x50mm for like $28 on amazon xD
02:36 PM Tom_L: heh
02:37 PM Tom_L: why 55 deg instead of 60 or 45?
02:37 PM fragalot: because that's what the mill i'm refurbishing has
02:37 PM Tom_L: oh i see, i thought this had something to do with the one you're building
02:37 PM fragalot: and I can't willy nilly change that angle without having everything shift over an unacceptable amount
02:37 PM fragalot: well, in a way it does :P
02:38 PM fragalot: i need to fix my existing mill before I can make the parts for the new one
02:38 PM fragalot: nobody bothers with dovetails anymore for new builds, do they?
02:38 PM Tom_L: i'd imagine most things are box ways or linear rails
02:39 PM miss0r: I build machines with dovetails
02:39 PM Tom_L: oddball :)
02:39 PM fragalot: weirdo :P
02:39 PM miss0r: :]
02:40 PM miss0r: They are excellent. I don't realy use it for surfaces that see alot of motion.
02:41 PM miss0r: Just for stuff that needs to not move a hair, unless I am ajusting it
02:42 PM fragalot: oh yeah they work great as clamping surfaces :P
02:42 PM miss0r: they do!
02:42 PM miss0r: atleast with the rugged finish I leave on there :P
02:45 PM miss0r: This series called 'the IT crowd' realy sucks
02:45 PM fragalot: hur
02:45 PM fragalot: it has it's moments
02:46 PM fragalot: few & far in between though
02:46 PM miss0r: sure. it has its moments...
02:46 PM miss0r: But the social functionality of the IT department is ridiculous..
02:47 PM miss0r: No way they are THAT well ajusted
02:47 PM fragalot: they aren't all
02:47 PM fragalot: but I don't want to spoil it for you
02:47 PM miss0r: :P
02:48 PM miss0r: I am just having a hard time not getting annoyed by the 'canned laughter'
02:49 PM fragalot: try watching the big bang theory
02:49 PM fragalot: then go back to IT crowd and bask in sweet relief
02:49 PM miss0r: yeah... I found that series alot less annoying
02:50 PM miss0r: Actualy, I didn't notice the laughter there :S
02:50 PM fragalot: ._.
02:51 PM miss0r: I think i'll make one of those 55degrees dovetail cotters with a HSS cutter on there, just as a test :]
02:51 PM miss0r: with a u
02:51 PM fragalot: :P
02:52 PM fragalot: I've also considered popping into my shop & turning down some tool steel & mill a slot for an 8mm HSS blank to be inserted & then grind it on the cutter grinder
02:52 PM miss0r: yeah, that was my idea...
02:52 PM miss0r: you can just go ahead then
02:52 PM fragalot: well
02:52 PM fragalot: I'd need to mill it on the lathe
02:53 PM fragalot: which is a pain in the cunning linguals to set up :P
02:53 PM miss0r: Considering the effort you are putting into having one made... eh?
02:55 PM fragalot: I'll give it a go if this buying it properly thing doesn't pan out
02:55 PM fragalot: but i'd rather just buy the damn thing
02:56 PM miss0r: lazy....
02:59 PM Tom_L: fragalot, did you email them? if so what name did you leave so i can tell them who i'm checking for
03:00 PM Tom_L: i'll try to swing by there tomorrow
03:00 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Cutter.jpg
03:00 PM Tom_L: that would do if it were the right dimensions though right?
03:02 PM fragalot: that would do fine, I can make an arbor easily
03:02 PM fragalot: as long as it also cuts on the bottom, if possible
03:02 PM Tom_L: that one has teeth on the bottom
03:03 PM fragalot: great
03:03 PM Tom_L: would need to be a shallow mount though
03:03 PM Tom_L: or clear the edge
03:03 PM fragalot: custom arbor :P
03:03 PM fragalot: it's only going to take super light cuts as all i'm doing is clean up an existing one
03:03 PM Tom_L: ok
03:03 PM fragalot: well, and true up one of them as it's awfully crooked
03:04 PM Tom_L: hss should be ok then..
03:04 PM Tom_L: or cobalt
03:04 PM fragalot: preferably at least HSS
03:04 PM fragalot: there are a few hard spots in the casting that I know of
03:04 PM Tom_L: ok
03:05 PM fragalot: depending on price i'd probably also buy more than one
03:05 PM Tom_L: i'm sure carbide would be alot more and i honestly haven't seen any carbide cutters like that
03:05 PM Tom_L: those would likely be insert cutters
03:05 PM fragalot: and not affordable
03:05 PM Tom_L: exactly
03:06 PM miss0r: fragalot: Why wouldn't you want a HSS+cobalt cutter? they are alot more longlived than ye'oldie HSS
03:07 PM Tom_L: i'll toss mine in the car so there's no confusion as to what we're after
03:07 PM fragalot: i misread that as carbon >.<
03:07 PM miss0r: hehe :]
03:07 PM fragalot: Tom_L: sure, but if they prefer to make a solid cutter, that's fine too. Whatever I can get the fastest :P
03:07 PM Tom_L: solid cutter?
03:07 PM JT-Shop: got the drain pipe installed finally
03:07 PM Tom_L: you mean with a shank n all?
03:08 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you'd better get a move on it.. after all that work you're gonna need a shower
03:08 PM fragalot: Tom_L: IF that's easier for them to do.. (eg. regrind a 60° standard or something)
03:08 PM Tom_L: ok
03:08 PM Tom_L: the LOC is the kicker
03:08 PM Tom_L: for that
03:09 PM JT-Shop: that shower is huge compared to the old jacuzzi tub
03:09 PM fragalot: yea..
03:09 PM fragalot: let's see what they say
03:09 PM Tom_L: ok, i'm pretty sure i know what you want
03:09 PM JT-Shop: I had 0 movement in and out on the drain pipe so it had to be perfect... I was sweating that one
03:09 PM Tom_L: i've got one like that in the kitchen drain
03:10 PM fragalot: JT-Shop: does it have somewhere to expand to as it heats up during use?
03:11 PM JT-Shop: not much
03:12 PM JT-Shop: worked for 20 years with the tub so I'm not worried
03:12 PM fragalot: k
03:14 PM gloops: how about using 45 degree cutter and tilting the head
03:14 PM fragalot: can't tilt the head in the right direction on this machine
03:14 PM fragalot: don't have enough travel in the other
03:15 PM fragalot: and it's difficult to get everything in the same plane if I need to break down the setup to do the other side
03:20 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L: I'm getting so close to setting the shower pan I can't wait for the downhill after that
03:21 PM JT-Shop: I told my customer I needed 2 weeks to do some remodeling but never dreamed it would take that long
03:24 PM gloops: nice little job lot there https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Milling-cutters/263717757773?
03:29 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop well since the neighbors won't corral their dogs, i'm having to put in a kurbside mailbox because the wuss mailman refuses to deliver the street. I found some nice 4" thickwall pipe i welded up so if anybody decides to clobber it with a baseball bat etc or back into it, it will definitely leave a mark
03:30 PM Tom_L: before i commit to it, i'm going down to have a word with the post master about it
03:30 PM fragalot: don't forget to fill it with dense concrete
03:31 PM Tom_L: being rural i'm sure you've already got one similar
03:31 PM Tom_L: exactly
03:31 PM syyl: this is realy a thing?
03:31 PM Tom_L: what?
03:31 PM Tom_L: mail refusal is
03:31 PM syyl: morrons hitting postboxes from a driving car with a bat?
03:31 PM Tom_L: oh hell yes
03:32 PM miss0r: realy?
03:32 PM Tom_L: more a rural thing i think
03:32 PM syyl: wow :D
03:32 PM gloops: same here, postman can refuse to deliver if theres a dangerous dog, or resident
03:32 PM miss0r: I thought that was just a hollywood thing
03:32 PM fragalot: not the first time i've heard about that
03:32 PM syyl: same here miss0r
03:32 PM syyl: :D
03:32 PM miss0r: seriously... who does that?!
03:32 PM Tom_L: well you know as soon as hollywood thinks of it, somebody has to try it
03:33 PM miss0r: I wonder if it happened in that order
03:33 PM fragalot: in before you get in trouble because you damaged a snow plow with that thing :P
03:35 PM Tom_L: last few years we haven't had much of that here
03:35 PM miss0r: syyl: I guess it shouldn't come as a surprise. Many year ago, at the age of 13, I went with my parents to visit some friends in the US. They had come to visit us in Denmark the year before, and I took their daughter(roughly my age) to school with me for a day. So I decided to go to school with her one day while visiting, just to see how it was... Turns out all the sterio types with jocks, cheerleaders & nerd-fractions
03:35 PM miss0r: ect. are not just steriotypes. I could not believe my own eyes
03:35 PM syyl: :D
03:36 PM Tom_L: only in 'merica
03:36 PM JT-Shop: Tom_L: call animal control
03:36 PM miss0r: That made all the hollywood teen movies seem alot more real to be honnest... I mean, I still don't particularly like'em, but it added a twist of truth to what I thought was a completely fictional universe
03:36 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, supposedly the post officd did
03:36 PM JT-Shop: be better if you filed a complaint
03:37 PM JT-Shop: around here animal control is a 12 gauge
03:37 PM Tom_L: but i haven't seen the dogs in a day or so, so maybe they _did_ get the fine and finally are going to comply
03:37 PM miss0r: Tom_L: Its spelled 'murica, if you please
03:37 PM Tom_L: but the post master already hand walked a letter to all the block
03:37 PM miss0r: anyway, enough nation bashing for one day. I'll call it a night. See you around
03:37 PM JT-Shop: letter complaining about the dogs?
03:37 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, enough imports here, i probably could get away with that
03:38 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, no a letter saying since the owners won't comply everyone must get a box or PO Box
03:38 PM * JT-Shop gets back to shower construction
03:38 PM gloops: well, interfering with the royal mail is a serious offence here, dont hear of much trouble, there was trouble with some posties who used to just shove the letters in the letterbox half in, and leave them hanging out, people used to follow them round and steal the welfare cheques lol, its all paid by direct debit now though
03:39 PM Tom_L: gloops, it's supposed to be a federal crime here as well
03:39 PM JT-Shop: yea I'd call animal control once a day
03:40 PM Tom_L: i figure i could mount it just out of reach and a bit too high so the lazy bastard has to get out of the truck
03:41 PM gloops: Tom_L maybe a dummy camera might deter them, or a real one
03:41 PM Tom_L: i've got surveylance
03:41 PM Tom_L: and that's for my own viewing pleasure only
03:41 PM Tom_L: the cops could care less
03:42 PM gloops: true yeah, unless youve got a high definition full frontal face vid the cops dont seem interested
03:42 PM Tom_L: i called about a breakin and 4 hrs later they showed up
03:42 PM Tom_L: 3 weeks later they came to fetch the video
03:42 PM Tom_L: haven't heard a word since
03:43 PM fragalot: Tom_L: what you're supposed to do, is follow up with another call saying "don't worry I already shot them"
03:43 PM fragalot: guaranteed instant response.
03:43 PM Tom_L: yeah but then i'd be in trouble, not them
03:44 PM fragalot: solve one problem at a time, Tom_L
03:44 PM gloops: my dad phoned the cops when he saw 2 characters carry electical stuff up a lane, obviously just stole them, the cops basically said 'what do you want us to do?'
03:45 PM fragalot: they need to be able to prove it
03:45 PM fragalot: good friend of mine's house was broken into
03:45 PM fragalot: he found the couple that did it on his sofa, watching TV when he came home
03:46 PM fragalot: so he called the cops to pick them up, which they did
03:46 PM fragalot: 15 minutes later, the guy rings the doorbell asking if he can get his lighter back
03:46 PM gloops: makes you feel really secure
03:46 PM gregcnc: job security
03:47 PM JT-Shop: mail boxes have to be mounted a certain height
03:47 PM JT-Shop: hmm grand slam today 9 eggs
03:47 PM gloops: there is that to it gregcnc
03:48 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, yeah i looked it up
03:48 PM Tom_L: they also frown on large poles but i figure pole trumps dog
03:49 PM gregcnc: turning plastic https://www.instagram.com/p/BEdYTI3GB6h/
03:49 PM gloops: in my old mans day if two burglars were seen with stolen goods on foot theyve had been carried to the cop shop on stretchers, the cops would have been there in minutes
03:53 PM fragalot: gregcnc: ha :D
03:56 PM gloops: ive been messing about with some foam, not as easy as it looks
03:56 PM gloops: not to get a good finish anyway
03:56 PM gregcnc: milling foam?
03:56 PM fragalot: some foams require a very different toolpath
03:57 PM fragalot: full depth, profile first, conventional, and a very sharp polished tool
03:57 PM gloops: not high density no
03:57 PM gloops: medium sort of density
03:58 PM gloops: i saw people say to use conventional on a forum yeah, think i need to try top speed
03:59 PM gloops: its not bad but some tearing on some cuts, very slight, like pinholes
04:10 PM Deejay: gn8
04:10 PM fragalot: https://imgur.com/gallery/xWAotiN <= neat job there
04:12 PM gloops: used to be plumbers job
04:13 PM gloops: the swept joints on pipes were a bit of a skilled job too
05:41 PM phipli: evening
05:41 PM phipli: gained 4 v-blocks, a surface gauge and a compression tester today
05:42 PM phipli: also a clockwork meccano motor and a steam / meths meccano engine
05:42 PM phipli: productive day
05:47 PM hazzy-dev: phipli: Nice! When I was little I always wanted a meccano engine, I finally got one when I was about 14, but by that time I was already building steam engines so it was not that interesting
05:48 PM phipli: hazzy-dev, something like this one : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-CVjwMkOoqU
05:48 PM phipli: turn the sound off
05:49 PM hazzy-dev: yep, mine is just like that except single cylinder
05:49 PM phipli: yeah - this one is
05:49 PM phipli: trying to find a more accurate video
05:50 PM phipli: I've not done much research yet so don't have exact model numbers
05:50 PM phipli: also got the traction engine
05:50 PM phipli: that mamod made
05:50 PM phipli: looks like this : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eU6tnm7z8sg
05:54 PM hazzy-dev: oh yeah! Love those traction engines
05:54 PM hazzy-dev: They also made some cars that were really fine pieces of work
05:55 PM Michael_: moin moin jemand da?
05:55 PM phipli: they've been stored for a few decades, so need a bit of cleaning up, but they're in reasonable condition considering
05:58 PM hazzy-dev: I like the ones that show a little wear, means they were loved (or abused)
05:59 PM hazzy-dev: Anybody know about what version of LCNC PP2.0 uses? Is it still basically 2.6/2.7 or did they go to 2.8?
06:03 PM Michael_: bye
06:38 PM Tom_L: hazzy afik 2.8 isn't officially released
06:38 PM hazzy-dev: No its not :P
06:38 PM hazzy-dev: But I meant the joint/axis branch
06:39 PM Tom_L: no clue about that
06:40 PM hazzy-dev: Somebody mentioned they thought PP2.0 was based on 2.8~pre, which would be great, but seems to good to be true
06:40 PM Tom_L: then it is
07:02 PM nallar is now known as Ross
07:44 PM hazzy-dev: Contract_Pilot: Have you been able to tell what version of LCNC PP2.0 is based on?
07:49 PM Contract_Pilot: Linux Mint
08:16 PM hazzy-dev: Thanks Contract_Pilot. I meant the version of LCNC, not which linux OS, but that may be a bit hard to determine without doing a little work
08:16 PM hazzy-dev: I think I'll have to get myself a copy of PP2.0 to play with!
08:24 PM Tom_L: crap. grabcad model is in SW 2016...
08:48 PM skunkworks: it has to be pre 'joint/axis' the ini files don't have separate joints/axis secitons. (from cnczone posts anyway)
09:01 PM hazzy-dev: Tom_L: What format do you need it in? I may be able to save it as an older version for you...
09:02 PM hazzy-dev: thank you skunkworks!! That is what I figured, it would have been a huge project for them to have updated to master
10:27 PM tumdedum_ is now known as tumdedum
10:29 PM Tom_L: hazzy-dev, doesn't matter too much, 2015 or iges etc
10:31 PM Tom_L: i have better luck importing iges from catia to my cad cam than from a sw iges export
10:31 PM Tom_L: the model is usually broken but easier to fix
10:32 PM Tom_L: nice bumpy ride on the netsplits tonight i see...
10:33 PM XXCoder: in least its planned
10:34 PM Tom_L: it was?
10:34 PM Tom_L: oh i see that now
10:34 PM Tom_L: was away for quite a while
10:34 PM jdh: I couldn't bring myself to drive to hutchinson.
10:35 PM Tom_L: would be quite a drive
10:35 PM Tom_L: but the reward would have been worth it if you like that sort of thing
10:35 PM jdh: tired of driving
10:36 PM Tom_L: last piece i know of they recovered was liberty bell
10:37 PM Tom_L: and restored
10:37 PM hazzy-dev: Tom_L: You'd think somebody would have come up with a standard model format with feature history by now ...
10:37 PM hazzy-dev: Would you like me to convert the file for you? I have SW 16 running here already
10:38 PM Tom_L: naw, it's all good. my kid is working on a skate truck for something to do and i found one on grabcad
10:38 PM Tom_L: he can draw on up
10:40 PM hazzy-dev: He'll have more fun drawing it up anyways ;)
10:44 PM flyback: Tom_L, I apprentely inspired someone to start quite a reddit thread on hacking these magictv devices
10:44 PM flyback: might be fun to get one for kid
10:44 PM flyback: https://www.reddit.com/r/RTLSDR/comments/8mlbps/tzumi_magictv_is_an_openwrt_board_rtlsdr/
10:44 PM theCockerel: [REDDIT] Tzumi MagicTV is an OpenWRT board + RTL-SDR + batterypack (more details within) (https://i.redd.it/cvf77dqh6h011.jpg) to r/RTLSDR | 286 points (98.0%) | 136 comments | Posted by meowTheKat | Created at 2018-05-27 - 22:34:15
10:44 PM Tom_L: he's got a pretty full plate as it is
10:46 PM XXCoder: how do those devcies work
10:46 PM XXCoder: no internet no data needed hmmm
10:52 PM flyback: it has a ar9331 soc, a rtl chip and another tv tuner chip
10:52 PM flyback: streams over wifi acts as ap
10:53 PM XXCoder: so basically just use as tv tuner, makes sense. tv broadcast is still going
10:53 PM flyback: it's atsc
10:54 PM XXCoder: not bad
10:54 PM flyback: ##rtlsdr we are discussing it
10:55 PM XXCoder: what benefit would rooting it
10:55 PM XXCoder: ok going
10:55 PM flyback: uh we can upgrade the openwrt on it etc
10:55 PM flyback: mabye make it work with sdr stuff
10:55 PM XXCoder: sdr?
10:55 PM flyback: software defined radio
10:55 PM flyback: rtl chip is this cheap tv tuner chip
10:55 PM flyback: well the europe version has a dump out ode
10:56 PM flyback: and people wrote software to do tuning, etc in software
10:56 PM flyback: am, fm, ham, shorwater
10:56 PM flyback: pagers, aircraft
10:56 PM flyback: satalites
10:56 PM flyback: wirelss utility meters
10:56 PM XXCoder: so use module for other radio-related stuff
10:57 PM flyback: yeah