#linuxcnc Logs
May 06 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:08 AM IchGucksLive: morning
01:18 AM IchGucksLive: morning gloops
01:18 AM IchGucksLive: headwave
01:20 AM pink_vampire: hi IchGucksLive
01:20 AM IchGucksLive: ;-)
01:21 AM XXCoder: hey
01:23 AM miss0r: morning
01:24 AM gloops: hi, yes beautiful day here
01:24 AM gloops: todal ill be making a cyclone
01:24 AM miss0r: and some overview pictures ;)
01:25 AM gloops: oh sht..yeah
01:26 AM gloops: lol, after about 6 months of discussing every minute detail of my machine as i built it, bolt by bolt, i wouldnt have thought anyone would want to see or hear another word about it
01:28 AM miss0r: It'd be nice to get an overview of what we've been involved in
01:29 AM XXCoder: lol
01:29 AM XXCoder: I want to make cyclone someday
01:29 AM XXCoder: work recently added one, for various tool grinding stuff
01:29 AM XXCoder: added this fancy pipe system to open or close vacuum
01:30 AM gloops: ive seen a dismantled dyson on someones yard, im going round in a bit to steal the conical bit, not sure if the see through chamber has gone, but the cone will get me started
01:31 AM gloops: when i say steal..he wont mind heh
01:31 AM miss0r: I've just embarked on making a small safe. I'm going to build a miniature round vault door for it. Like this one: http://p.motionelements.com/stock-video/design-elements/me487269-vault-door-open-hd-a0089.jpg
01:31 AM XXCoder: wouldnt mind, just shoots a gun to let you know hes fine eh ;)
01:31 AM miss0r: hehe
01:32 AM gloops: that looks a bit involved miss0r
01:32 AM gloops: there seems to be a bit of demand for safes actually
01:32 AM miss0r: yeah, I don't know how long it will take. But probally a while :D The 'door' will only be 100mm OD
01:33 AM miss0r: so, its a gimmic... but it will be a fun challange to build
01:33 AM pink_vampire: gloops: pics
01:33 AM gloops: was at an auction once, a mate who was there asked me to bid on a large safe for him, as he had to go, it went way above the price he guessed, and man i didnt realise what id let myself in for to move it to his house
01:34 AM gloops: pink_vampire - face pics..or..?
01:34 AM pink_vampire: or...
01:34 AM IchGucksLive: im off Till later
01:36 AM gloops: what about the actually lock triggering mechanism miss0r?
01:36 AM gloops: actual
01:37 AM gloops: combination?
01:37 AM miss0r: I'm not sure yet. But I think I will just buy an assa safe lock, and bury it deep within & sorta have an extended key to reach in there
01:37 AM pink_vampire: i hate the fact that i need another service just to share stuff
01:38 AM XXCoder: you could set your own server and stuff
01:38 AM XXCoder: just extra expense though and many isps will have "no servers" in terms
01:39 AM gloops: i had one running on xitami and dns2go from deerfield, only works out a couple of £s a month or something
01:39 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder: i'm using the phone to take pics and videos, but the irc is on the computer
01:40 AM pink_vampire: this is why i love whatsapp
01:40 AM XXCoder: theres phone irc client but I know what you mean yeah
01:41 AM pink_vampire: but there is no notification, no preview, no way to share stuff.
01:43 AM XXCoder: yeah
01:43 AM XXCoder: irc is very old protocol
01:44 AM XXCoder: it was invented in era where sharing 1 mb picture means it takes few minutes of download lol
01:44 AM gloops: i wonder what the average age of an irc user is, ive known quite a few die of old age on here now
01:45 AM miss0r: I think a general rune of thimb is that noone born later than 1999 is on here
01:45 AM miss0r: with a u
01:46 AM XXCoder: ans a i
01:46 AM XXCoder: !l
01:46 AM miss0r: yeah ;D
01:46 AM XXCoder: 4 wires done, 9 to go
01:46 AM XXCoder: making cables is boring
01:47 AM * miss0r spend the last decade as a process electrician
01:47 AM miss0r: I feel your pain
01:47 AM XXCoder: cat6 cables
01:48 AM XXCoder: its bit easier now with pass though rj45s :D
01:48 AM miss0r: passthrough? :S
01:48 AM XXCoder: yeah
01:48 AM XXCoder: just sort and cluster wires flat in proper pin order, push rj45 in
01:49 AM XXCoder: it goes though rj45, then you check if correct then trim off
01:49 AM XXCoder: then finally clamp
01:49 AM miss0r: nice
01:50 AM XXCoder: way better than 3 peice I tried before
01:51 AM XXCoder: the orginial design (just trim to proper length and insert and pray)
01:51 AM XXCoder: that ones ok
01:58 AM gloops: going to need a bucket/drum with a screw on lid, ive only got 40 gallon drum with lid, that wont fit under the table, hmmm
02:06 AM Deejay: moin
02:14 AM gloops: i also wonder if the size of the chip collecting drum will affect the power of the vaccum
02:17 AM XXCoder: should not, if sealed
02:17 AM XXCoder: just longer ramp up time?
02:18 AM gloops: yeah in theory, also notice some have a fan at the top of the cyclone cone
03:14 AM gloops: dyson cyclone parts are very small
03:14 AM miss0r: wow that was some painfull turning
03:14 AM miss0r: Finally got a chipbreak on this mystery metal.. but they are scoldig hot burning my skin all over :-/
03:16 AM XXCoder: mystery metal for dinner today!
03:18 AM miss0r: yep
03:18 AM miss0r: The small spots that hits my underarms leave a tiny blister...
03:22 AM XXCoder: :(
03:41 AM miss0r: marvelous! my mystery metal has some hard spots in it as well.... *sigh*
03:43 AM Motioncontrol: good morning. exist some software for conver fanuc iso program in linuxcnc iso program ?
05:01 AM gloops: no idea Motioncontrol, someone will probably know - when they look in
05:03 AM Motioncontrol: gloops, the big problem is when have on fanuc if and goto label . for traslate it in linuxcnc , is very expensive. fanuc is more efficent in if stantment
05:26 AM rmu: Motioncontrol: maybe this helps http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/o-code.html#ocode:conditional
05:29 AM Motioncontrol: rmu, yes i know it , but on fanuc you have line type : n20 g0 x0 y0
05:29 AM Motioncontrol: rmu, g1 z100
05:30 AM Motioncontrol: rmu, if [#5 eq 0] goto 20
05:30 AM Motioncontrol: rmu in this case when if is soddisfed, the control program jump up in n20 line
05:30 AM Motioncontrol: this on linuxcnc not can possible
05:31 AM rmu: no it seems that is not possible
05:31 AM Motioncontrol: the cycle after n20 , execution again g1 z100 and if
05:31 AM rmu: and i'm pretty sure you can not translate such a program automatically
05:31 AM Motioncontrol: type while
05:32 AM Motioncontrol: yes , i thing use while statment , replace if goto
05:32 AM rmu: linuxcnc g-code has subroutines and explicit loops
05:35 AM rmu: such a goto could be used to create pretty evil g-code structures with "continuations" and so on
05:45 AM jthornton: morning
05:49 AM XXCoder: hry jthornton
05:49 AM XXCoder: we ripped walls off the room, and I made 14 ethernet cables :P
05:50 AM jthornton: by the 14th one you know the colors by heart
05:50 AM XXCoder: I remembered it from 100 rj45 connections I did when I volunteered at nonprofit, I remade network basically
05:51 AM jthornton: nice
05:52 AM jthornton: dang tv's have gotten cheap a 55" LG $550
05:52 AM XXCoder: yeah not surpised
05:52 AM XXCoder: leds have been making progress for long time
05:52 AM XXCoder: led type lcd tvs
05:56 AM jthornton: 13:50:56 hrs of daylight today... pretty soon no extra light for the chickens
05:57 AM XXCoder: rapid transition of daylight hours yay
05:57 AM XXCoder: evenually slow down in summer
05:59 AM phipli: jthornton, that explains it, although that webpage says that we (in the UK) call anything a terrapin - we don't. Terrapins are small and aquatic to me. Not exactly sure where the boundary between a terrapin and a turtle is, but it is probably blurred same as frogs and toads or doves and pigeons (each pair are basically the same and the names are given based on consensus rather than science)
06:00 AM jthornton: yea I just started calling box turtles terrapins after moving to Missouri as everyone here calls a box turtle a terrapin
06:02 AM jthornton: looks like on the 10th I'll see if my chicken door is confused or not about when to open lol
06:02 AM phipli: why the 10th?
06:03 AM jthornton: 14 hours of daylight, the time I have programmed in
06:03 AM phipli: I've been working on upgrading my conservatory fan controller to have a wifi interface for settings and to show a temperature history
06:03 AM jthornton: if less than 14 hours the lights come on and the door opens before sunrise to get 14 hours total
06:05 AM phipli: http://elephantandchicken.co.uk/projects/FanController01.png
06:05 AM phipli: http://elephantandchicken.co.uk/projects/FanController02.png
06:06 AM phipli: The graph is a programatically generated svg image
06:07 AM phipli: Settings page shows the current settings as the defaults in each of the fields
06:07 AM phipli: most of the code is pinched from my overcomplicated chicken door software
06:08 AM jthornton: cool
06:09 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00XW2OFWW
06:09 AM jthornton: I want to add that to the chicken controller and keep the lights on on very dark mornings
06:09 AM jthornton: dark from clouds
06:10 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/Adafruit-BME280-Temperature-Humidity-Pressure/dp/B013W1AJUY
06:10 AM jthornton: and add one of those
06:11 AM phipli: I have a BME280
06:11 AM phipli: use it at work for checking the conditions during engine tests
06:11 AM phipli: well... actually we mostly use it to grumble about the lack of air con in the summer
06:11 AM phipli: but I built it for engine testing
06:14 AM phipli: but I have some sample arduino code from that project if you need it
06:14 AM jthornton: I'll be using it on the RPi so python
06:16 AM XXCoder: OMG https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWDXhXkEQQ
06:16 AM XXCoder: so expensive hot dog licenses
06:19 AM fragalot: Hi
06:19 AM XXCoder: yo. check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nzWDXhXkEQQ
07:00 AM Spirit532 is now known as Guest4502
07:00 AM Spirit532_ is now known as Spirit532
07:29 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, the BMP180 has barometric pressure, altitute AND temp for less
07:30 AM jthornton: less than what?
07:30 AM jthornton: oh a 280
07:30 AM Tom_L: the 280
07:30 AM Tom_L: https://www.amazon.com/JBtek-Barometric-Pressure-Temperature-Altitude/dp/B00UUS12PO/ref=pd_sim_201_4/139-6727469-0868516?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B00UUS12PO&pd_rd_r=FS2XXB28YJ9MBPAFZCXJ&pd_rd_w=9rdW5&pd_rd_wg=S1FO3&psc=1&refRID=FS2XXB28YJ9MBPAFZCXJ
07:30 AM Tom_L: dunno what interface
07:30 AM Tom_L: i2c
07:31 AM jthornton: I think I have some of them somewhere in my junk
07:35 AM Tom_L: although the description of the other one says temp too
08:41 AM gloops: right chip collector done, if it works, waiting for some foam to set maybe try it later
08:41 AM gloops: gone with henry hoover for suction also has fine filter
08:42 AM gloops: thought has crossed my mind that a chip collector wont be much good for mdf dust anyway, too fine and light, but we will see
08:49 AM nallar is now known as Ross
08:58 AM mase: HI, I want to build a router.
08:59 AM mase: I am not sure if I should buy this kind of rails
08:59 AM mase: https://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Linearfuhrung-20-x-1000mm-Set-wellenunterstutzt-inkl-4-Wagen/112886342477?hash=item1a488ce34d:g:~r8AAOSwhQtatA5W
09:00 AM mase: or these https://www.ebay.de/itm/2x-Linearfuhrung-Profilfuhrung-KPF-S-20-x-1200mm-Set-inkl-Wagen/123035037327?hash=item1ca575ae8f:g:FQ4AAOSwiYRaxpfN
09:01 AM mase: the working room of the maschine should be 1000 x 1600 x 200mm
09:01 AM mase: so pretty large
09:01 AM mase: Mainly I want to work with wood
09:03 AM mase: If you know a projekt similar to mine let me know
09:06 AM sync: the second one is stiffer
09:07 AM mase: Yes right, I should know which force occuors while working
09:08 AM mase: so I know which one I pick
09:08 AM mase: the stifer ones are also more expensice
09:08 AM Aztec03 is now known as Panoptes
09:09 AM sync: but not by much
09:11 AM rmu: both types of linear rail need sturdy and accurate support
09:12 AM mase: 250 -> 96
09:13 AM mase: 1200 mm rail of type one 96 Euro and type 2 250 Euro
09:49 AM Loetmichel: fragalot: you are right that i am less careful for my body than stefan. I take offence in you calling my results sloppy though ;)
09:52 AM Loetmichel: re from the mother in law btw.
09:54 AM * Loetmichel is sitting here with a small ratchet strap for a belt since i managed to tear my leather belt apart saturday when lifting the sack of levelling compound in the home improvement shop. looks funny but works surprisingly well ;)
09:54 AM Loetmichel: https://www.anschlagmittel-shop.de/klemband-25-mm.html <- like this one just in blue nylon
10:16 AM miss0r: I have never before had a need for a dividing head, until today. And I don't have one :D
10:16 AM miss0r: :D = :(
10:16 AM miss0r: Most of the stuff you'd need a dividing head for, I manage on the cnc.. but this one would be alot easier with one
10:17 AM miss0r: I'm thinking of spending ~300eur one a cheap one. Do any of you know this model? (experience) https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/BS-0-Precision-Dividing-Head-With-5-3-jaw-Chuck-Tailstock-For-Milling-Etc/302685927720?hash=item46797cb928:g:wCIAAOSwUN9au40S
10:18 AM miss0r: fragalot: This means you too; ^
10:21 AM miss0r: I will be back later
10:40 AM phipli: .weather
10:40 AM theCockerel: Yahoo! Weather - Derby, England, GB: Sunny, 22°C (71°F), Humidity: 36%, Light breeze 3.1m/s (↑)
10:40 AM phipli: pah
10:40 AM phipli: it is way warmer than that
10:41 AM phipli: ~25 in the house
10:41 AM jthornton: .weather
10:41 AM theCockerel: Yahoo! Weather - Poplar Bluff, MO, US: Partly Cloudy, 23°C (73°F), Humidity: 62%, Light air 1.8m/s (→)
10:41 AM phipli: just fitted the ESP8266 controller to the fan in the conservatory after a few more tweaks
10:41 AM jthornton: feels more like 85°F
10:41 AM phipli: the 3.3v I/O wouldn't drive the relay board
10:42 AM phipli: so I've run it through a mosfet
10:42 AM jthornton: 5v relay board?
10:42 AM phipli: yeah
10:42 AM phipli: usually 3.3 is high enough to trigger one... but it isn't
10:42 AM phipli: 10K pull up and a mosfet and I'm sorted though
10:42 AM gloops: well, i got a cyclone alright haha
10:42 AM phipli: not the end of the world
10:43 AM phipli: gloops, are we talking weather, or extractors?
10:43 AM gloops: not many chips escaping it though
10:43 AM gloops: extractors
10:43 AM phipli: :)
10:47 AM jthornton: hmm I could use an ESP8266 to feed back temperature and light levels...
10:47 AM jthornton: gloops: got a photo of it?
10:47 AM gloops: no not yet, i adapted a funnel - like for pouring diesel, i reckon its way to short, everything just whips round and stays airborne, doesnt sink
10:47 AM jthornton: phipli: so far for the first time the first 4 eggs average is large, with two large and two mediums
10:47 AM jthornton: ah yea, did you see the link to the cyclone spreadsheet yesterday?
10:47 AM phipli: One of our birds constantly lays eggs so big we can't shut the lids on "large" egg boxes
10:47 AM gloops: i need a fitting to lower the inlet, ill try that tommorrow
10:47 AM phipli: I have to take them out before I take them to work
10:47 AM phipli: and eat them :)
10:47 AM jthornton: aye, that's the best thing to do with jumbo eggs
10:47 AM jthornton: I get enough large eggs now to put them in a separate carton for my consumption
10:47 AM phipli: yeah, that's what I do
10:47 AM phipli: sort of
10:47 AM phipli: I separate them at the point I'm checking for really poopy ones when I'm sorting them for other people
10:55 AM JT-Shop: no more poopy eggs https://www.backyardchickens.com/articles/roll-out-nest-box-mk3.73816/
10:59 AM gloops: is that you JT-Shop?
10:59 AM JT-Shop: aye
10:59 AM gloops: living on a dead end dirt road
10:59 AM gloops: haha wish i lived somewhere like that
10:59 AM JT-Shop: actually a dead end dirt road off a dirt road
10:59 AM gloops: yeah thats it
11:01 AM Loetmichel: me too, JT-Shop. Especially after ripping out all that contact cement glued carpet out of my mothers in law new appartment yesterday
11:01 AM Loetmichel: MAAAN that used to be a LOT easier 30 years ago ;)
11:04 AM phipli: JT-Shop, I modified the pigeon cam code to also fetch the temperature plot and upload it to the internet proper
11:04 AM phipli: http://elephantandchicken.co.uk/temperature/index.html
11:05 AM phipli: you can only access the controller itself on the lan or over the VPN
11:05 AM phipli: but I can at least check the temperature if I so like :)
11:05 AM phipli: (time isn't labelled because it is adjustable and it would have been more complicated to make it not just 4px per sample (fixed))
11:07 AM phipli: Red line is the high temperature fan on trigger, dotted line the high temperature off trigger point, and same for low.
11:07 AM phipli: Set at random numbers at the moment
11:08 AM phipli: JT-Shop, I've seen 3 of our birds trying to sit in the same single nest box
11:09 AM phipli: turns out chickens are a bit like a fluid
11:09 AM phipli: they flow into the available space
11:19 AM JT-Shop: yea I've seen 5 in my nest box all comfortable and sitting quietly
11:20 AM JT-Shop: phipli: how often does it upload the chart?
11:36 AM phipli: .weather
11:36 AM theCockerel: Yahoo! Weather - Derby, England, GB: Sunny, 22°C (71°F), Humidity: 36%, Light breeze 3.1m/s (↑)
11:36 AM phipli: it really isn't - way hotter than that
11:41 AM JT-Shop: maybe it's getting the weather for Derby KS
11:44 AM Bruno: hallo zusammen
11:46 AM Bruno: ich habe folgendes Problem, wo bekomme ich einen Postprzessor für Linuxcnc mit 4 Achsen für sheetcam?
11:46 AM Bruno: kann mir da jemand helfen?
11:58 AM gloops: some nice caulis ready https://ibb.co/j8WDOn
11:59 AM miss0r: gloops: How are those pictures comming along?
11:59 AM gloops: ahh, not had chance today lol
12:03 PM miss0r: Am I the only one getting a bit nervous when having to mill an aluminium block, where you only have 1.5mm in the jaws?
12:05 PM IchGucksLive: hi all
12:06 PM IchGucksLive: what a day in germany
12:06 PM Bruno: ich habe folgendes Problem, wo bekomme ich einen Postprzessor für Linuxcnc mit 4 Achsen für sheetcam?
12:07 PM Bruno: kann mir da jemand helfen?
12:07 PM IchGucksLive: was wilst du denn machen nur rohre anschneiden
12:07 PM Bruno: ja
12:07 PM IchGucksLive: moment
12:08 PM IchGucksLive: also sheetcam ist ja 2D mit tiefe 2.5D das heist 3D geht da garnichht
12:08 PM fragalot: miss0r: that depends on the state of the jaws, and how thick the block itself is when you're done milling it :P
12:08 PM IchGucksLive: nimm doch deskproto FREE
12:08 PM Bruno: ausschnitte mit dem plasma
12:09 PM miss0r: fragalot: Sure. The state of the jaws is flawless/excellent
12:09 PM Bruno: ich habe ein zusatzmodul für sheetcam und die simulation funktioniert auch
12:09 PM miss0r: and Theres plenty left. But one wrong move, and it will come flying :D
12:09 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, sheetcam hat eine linuxcnc postprozessor
12:10 PM Bruno: aber nicht für 4 Achsen, die Achse ird nicht berücksichtigt
12:10 PM Bruno: A Achse
12:11 PM IchGucksLive: eigentlich sollte das klappen wenn die simulation geht
12:12 PM IchGucksLive: desweiteren kann linuxcnc alle postprozesor dateien lesen
12:13 PM IchGucksLive: bruno ich schick dir die ausklink NGC für den plasma
12:13 PM fragalot: miss0r: :P
12:13 PM fragalot: miss0r: look at the talonGrip jaws.. those only grip like 1mm
12:13 PM Bruno: die Simukation funktioniert einwandfrei, wie gesagt fehlt beim umwandeln immer die A Achse
12:15 PM IchGucksLive: kannst du mir deinen post damm bitte zurückschicken dann schreib ich den um
12:16 PM Bruno: und die Y-Ache verfährt in dem programm, in der Simulation bleibt sie aber null, so soll es ja auch sein
12:17 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, mail
12:17 PM IchGucksLive: hi acassis
12:17 PM acassis: Hi IchGucksLive
12:17 PM IchGucksLive: if yiou need help just ask
12:18 PM acassis: IchGucksLive: sure, just passing by here, my CNC/router is stopped here, nothing new :-)
12:23 PM IchGucksLive: i got 4 finished today 8 to go until wendsday
12:24 PM IchGucksLive: bruno bin drann
12:25 PM Bruno: Vielen Dank, übrigens läuft meine Maschine mit dem Plasmaschneider, eigentlich kann es los gehen, wenn ich Sheetcam noch mitmacht :-)
12:28 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, also ich finde auch bei den neuen postprozessoren keien A Achsen antrieb die Foren einträge haben auch nur 2.5D werte
12:29 PM IchGucksLive: brunoi 6.2.0
12:29 PM Bruno: aber ich habe extra das rötieren toolgekauft
12:30 PM IchGucksLive: kanst du mir da mal eine link schicken
12:30 PM Bruno: moment
12:32 PM Bruno: hier ein Link zu einem Video
12:32 PM Bruno: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D-BuRLhfLvk
12:32 PM IchGucksLive: ok ich habs nun auch gefunden
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, mail mit post neu
12:51 PM Bruno: Vielen Dank, ich teste das gleich
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, ich hab leider das plugin nicht
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: wenn es nicht geht nimm den aktuellen mach3rotary
12:53 PM Bruno: ok
12:53 PM IchGucksLive: ich bleib noch paar minuten
12:57 PM IchGucksLive: sync, still on
12:59 PM Bruno: auf den ersten blick sieht das gut aus, allerdings fehlt jetzt das THC zum Beispiell G38.2
12:59 PM IchGucksLive: oh vergessen
01:00 PM IchGucksLive: du kanst das auch selbst reinschreiben wie du das gerne hättest
01:00 PM Bruno: muss ich mal versuchen
01:01 PM * Loetmichel hates it. Lately my samsung note 3 shuts off at 70% battery and does an endless reboot loop until the battery is weak enough to not start any more at all... high Ri or something. New battery is already ordered... luckily its still changeable witout any tools. Most smartphone users will never encouinter that though, its unusual to have the same smartphone for that amount of time ;)
01:04 PM IchGucksLive: Bruno, in dem post den du geschickt hast ist kein thc aktiviert >>> thcOnCode = nil
01:07 PM IchGucksLive: ok ich bin weg
01:07 PM IchGucksLive: GN8 from germany
01:07 PM Bruno: danke
01:19 PM gloops: right toolpaths for cutting letters, lets see, 27 letters, upper and lower case, = 54, 9 numbers = 65, 3 sizes = 135 toolpaths ...
01:21 PM gloops: and i will put £20 down now - the first punter will want a different font
01:27 PM fragalot_ is now known as fragalot
01:50 PM gloops: right, thats A
01:51 PM gloops: and i think thats enough for today
01:51 PM MarcelineVQ: what are you up to there?
01:52 PM gloops: toolpaths for the alphabet
02:55 PM JT-Shop: gloops: just use f-engrave
02:58 PM hazzy-dev: gloops: I have a set of subroutines for letters and numbers that takes a variable for size somewhere, if you are interested
02:58 PM hazzy-dev: I think they are fanuc dialect, but should be easy to translate to RS274
03:00 PM hazzy-dev: I though about translating them, but fengrave works so well I use that so there is no incentive
03:00 PM gloops: well, tbh, thinking it over, its probably as quick to make each job than try and set up individual letters
03:02 PM gloops: i just thought, you dont know which letters you might need for something, its no good cutting all the alphabet out in advance, you might only use 10 letters, so have code for each letter stored ready
03:02 PM gloops: but then you have to load them and set offsets or whatever
03:02 PM hazzy-dev: PP has a neat serial sequential serial number engraving macro that uses subroutines for each number, but that is the only type of situation I see letter toolpaths being really useful/needed
03:03 PM gloops: may as well just set NANCY up in the software and generate the code the the lot
03:45 PM Deejay: gn8
03:50 PM Spida: Loetmichel: I am on my fifth mobile in ~20years.
03:54 PM Spida: my last smartphone... I accidentially damaged the USB port (no way to charge, no way to backup data). to replace the usb port, I had to get out hte battery, which was glued in. I had to bend it quite a bit to get it out. since I don't trust LiPos after that handling, I got a replacement battery with the usb socket. sadly, the the battery was in storage for a few years, and never charged - DOA.
03:54 PM Spida: funny death for a several 100 buck device because of a 1 buck part.
03:55 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Magnetic-Micro-USB-Cable-For-Android-Xiaomi-3-4-Redmi-3S-Note-2-3-Charging-Charger/32695095375.html
03:56 PM SpeedEvil: I have gone to these as a general solution for all my microUSB kit.
03:56 PM SpeedEvil: Bought 20.
03:56 PM SpeedEvil: Stuck one in each of my microUSB things.
03:56 PM SpeedEvil: Now the connecors don't see any cycles.
04:04 PM MarcelineVQ: that's pretty cool
04:14 PM gloops: the UK is really small on signs
04:14 PM skunkworks: SpeedEvil: that is cool
04:14 PM gloops: i mean, like personal house signs
04:15 PM gloops: the pub signs are good
04:15 PM SpeedEvil: As a mini-review - after perhaps a thousand cycles, the first one I installed for charging my tablet is working fine
04:17 PM gloops: which means nobody is doing bling signs here
04:19 PM gloops: stands top
04:19 PM gloops: oops
04:20 PM gloops: stands to reason, nobody has fancy house signs, so its the last thing a sigmaker would do
04:20 PM gloops: and therefore exactly what i shall do
04:44 PM enleth: Spida: for future reference: get a can of a Label-Off spray, prefereably an expensive brand name one (they really do work better) and use that to unglue a bult-in battery
04:44 PM enleth: unless it's siliconed in, Label-Off will handle it just fine
04:44 PM enleth: and shouldn't damage anything
04:45 PM enleth: they typically use those foam-like double-sided adhesive strips to glue batteries in
04:45 PM enleth: they're a bitch to undo mechanically but give very quickly with the right solvents
04:47 PM enleth: generally, those sprays are marketed for label removal but work well on all sorts of adhesive tape, adhesive strips and whatnot
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06:26 PM MarcelineVQ: when asking someone about wire how do you pronounce 16/4 "sixteen four" or "sixteen by four" or something else?
06:42 PM FloppyDisk525: Been awhile since I've asked about wire, but I would ask 16 gauge, 4 conductor.
06:43 PM pink_vampire: hi
06:43 PM pink_vampire: any life here?
06:46 PM MarcelineVQ: FloppyDisk525: thank you :D
06:48 PM jdh: sixteen-four, stranded bitch.
06:48 PM MarcelineVQ: unsurpsiringly putting stranded bitch in google is entirely uninformative hehe
06:49 PM jdh: yeah, just rap lyrics
06:55 PM nallar is now known as Ross
06:56 PM jdh: anyway, your specification is incomplete.
06:56 PM MarcelineVQ: as compared to 16-7/4?
06:56 PM MarcelineVQ: is that the right order of numbers to say guage/strands/conductors?
06:57 PM jdh: don't know, I have alwasy just taken whatever number of strands they have
06:58 PM MarcelineVQ: hehe alright, did you mean something else specification-wise?
06:58 PM jdh: no, just that you probably want stranded not solid
06:58 PM MarcelineVQ: or did you mean not saying solid vs stranded?
06:58 PM MarcelineVQ: aha thank you
06:58 PM MarcelineVQ: actually could anyone tell me what the tradeoff is of using oversized wire? if a person used 10 guage wire for some 5v 20mA signal easily carries on 30 guage wire, is the issue with that just the wire price or is there some sort of inductive or inrush concern?
06:59 PM jdh: sounds like a question for pcw, but cost for those examples would be enough for me.
07:00 PM MarcelineVQ: they may be a bit extreme as an example, but it's something I've wondered about from time to time
07:03 PM SpeedEvil: MarcelineVQ: extra capacitance.
07:04 PM SpeedEvil: Also difficulty terminating it often
07:05 PM MarcelineVQ: thank you, by terminating it often do you mean signal termination?
07:14 PM SpeedEvil: no
07:14 PM SpeedEvil: It not fitting in the holes.
07:14 PM MarcelineVQ: ah hehe, alrighty
07:26 PM Tom_L: what SpeedEvil said
07:59 PM XXCoder: carbon fiber knife https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TCkmKgUp1ak
08:04 PM XXCoder: uhoh a knife that can enter plane lol
08:04 PM Tom_L: ceramic probably could too
08:04 PM ziper: they would both show up on a scanner wouldnt they
08:04 PM XXCoder: dunno
08:05 PM ziper: not that the TSA is competent enough to actually notice
08:05 PM XXCoder: they did few tests
08:05 PM XXCoder: they missed 9 out of 10 bombs
08:05 PM XXCoder: (fake ones but still)
08:05 PM XXCoder: knives heh talking about that
08:06 PM XXCoder: my friend had 3 utility knives (he use em a lot at his work) and tsa found nd took one
08:06 PM MarcelineVQ: they noticed my mother's good Leatherman, into the bin it went
08:07 PM XXCoder: one guy made few weapons with just store bought stuff past tsa check
08:07 PM ziper: i'm rather upset the video person didnt pour the resin over the cloth
08:07 PM XXCoder: he brushed it all over
08:07 PM ziper: still
08:08 PM XXCoder: every layer
08:08 PM ziper: its hard to tell if there is a dry spot
08:08 PM XXCoder: then he squeezed it very very hard
08:09 PM XXCoder: I love his cow liquid deperator
08:09 PM XXCoder: he has all sizes apparently, from timy one to gallon sized one
08:10 PM XXCoder: damn that lnife looks good. I wonder how long it would last
08:10 PM ziper: wow the scrap CF wasnt nearly as stiff as I expected
08:10 PM ziper: I guess thats the price of not having a core
08:11 PM XXCoder: his set of stones is insane
08:11 PM XXCoder: he stated price of each in one of video
08:11 PM XXCoder: its... very expensive
08:11 PM XXCoder: 500 bucks for 30,000 grit one I think
08:12 PM XXCoder: holy cow it beat pasta knife!
08:13 PM XXCoder: its been champon for quite a while
08:13 PM XXCoder: pasta was insane. he had to wipe it dry each cut because it would weaken blae otherwise/
08:13 PM XXCoder: then he cooked and ate the knife
08:59 PM ziper: if I think acme rod will be ok for my application is a good idea to try them and then swap to ballscrews if they don't work, or is that just setting myself up for a lot of extra work
09:03 PM XXCoder: dunno
09:03 PM XXCoder: aceme is very cheap but ballscrews isnt much more nowdays
09:03 PM XXCoder: in least chineseium ones anyway
10:20 PM hazzy-dev: XXCoder: An elderly British friend of mine would fly back and forth between US and UK often.
10:20 PM hazzy-dev: He was very handy and always had several knives and multi tools of various sorts on him, which he would **always** forget he had when he went thru security, he never got caught, lol
10:20 PM XXCoder: jeez lol
10:21 PM hazzy-dev: Of course, when I left my passport in my back pocket once you would have thought I had 10 lbs of hi explosive on me
10:21 PM hazzy-dev: As if that is suspicious :P
10:25 PM XXCoder: lol
10:57 PM pink_vampire: where i can get a flow indicator with fittings like the air fittings
11:06 PM nallar is now known as Ross
11:48 PM XXCoder: hey pink