#linuxcnc Logs
Apr 16 2018
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:28 AM fragalot: hi
12:32 AM XXCoder: yo
12:33 AM ktc: any linuxcnc laser control experience ?
12:36 AM XXCoder: not me
12:47 AM gloops: Full Metal Jacket sergeant R Lee Ermey dies
12:48 AM gloops: ktc CaptHindsight
12:57 AM ktc: gloops: what is capthindsight
12:58 AM fragalot: nobody knows
12:59 AM XXCoder: captain hindsight
12:59 AM XXCoder: hes a hero. shhh
12:59 AM gloops: hes in this channel, he uses lasers
12:59 AM ktc: gloops: oh ok
01:00 AM gloops: whats the problem anyway ktc?
01:00 AM ktc: I saw the https://github.com/jv4779/2x_laser
01:00 AM XXCoder: he sometimes works with this hero https://cdn-images.threadless.com/threadless-shop/products/2537/1272x920design_01.jpg
01:01 AM gloops: ktc are you building a laser machine?
01:01 AM ktc: gloops: yes not building but converting a linuxcnc controller
01:02 AM gloops: well the motion control stays the same id assume
01:02 AM gloops: the laser power is controlled much the same way as a spindle is controlled, 0-10v pwm
01:02 AM XXCoder: the CaptHindsight himself http://marvel.wikia.com/wiki/Carlton_LaFroyge_(Earth-616)
01:03 AM ktc: gloops: only change stepper controller
01:03 AM gloops: what are you using atm ?
01:04 AM ktc: tmc2103
01:05 AM ktc: a new stepper ic can do smooth step
01:05 AM gloops: hmm dont know the tmc2103
01:06 AM gloops: dont bother with tb6600, leadshines seem ok and gecko
01:06 AM gloops: fully digital drivers
01:06 AM gloops: how big is the machine/motors?
01:07 AM ktc: tmc 2130 is better than tb6600
01:07 AM gloops: you need smooth for engraving with laser, details do show
01:08 AM ktc: tmc is german
01:08 AM IchGucksLive: morning from germany
01:08 AM ktc: IchGucksLive: you know the tmc 2130?
01:09 AM IchGucksLive: no
01:09 AM gloops: made in germany doesnt mean so much now you know, german firms are heavily invested in china
01:09 AM gloops: its still chinese
01:09 AM ktc: http://www.watterott.com/en/SilentStepStick-TMC2130
01:11 AM ktc: what is wrong with chinese pcb with a german design ic
01:12 AM IchGucksLive: at this time i think everyone will build its own desig as they think its better
01:12 AM IchGucksLive: the standards set in 1992 is outdated they belive
01:13 AM IchGucksLive: world constantly changing
01:13 AM IchGucksLive: so the stepepr systems
01:14 AM ktc: 3d printer people said that is a more smooth controller
01:14 AM fragalot: XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OzLuKhn3QmU
01:14 AM XXCoder: looking
01:14 AM IchGucksLive: and now as prices dropped ones more Square set under 350 ive seen from 420 last year and 650 18month ago
01:14 AM gloops: well, i think some chinese hardware is OK, you can et away with using it, but some is not
01:14 AM gloops: i have learned NOT to underestimate the importance of drivers, get the best you can afford
01:14 AM fragalot: i'm off - cya
01:15 AM IchGucksLive: ktc, it has a full ramp
01:15 AM gloops: driver issues are time wasting and infuriating
01:15 AM XXCoder: fragalot: heh well never watched that show
01:16 AM ktc: IchGucksLive: wave form is smoother and less noise
01:16 AM gloops: get chinese motors, get good drivers
01:17 AM CaptHindsight: Germans love the Asians, first the Japanese, later the Chinese
01:17 AM ktc: gloops: I use used japanese stepper motor
01:17 AM IchGucksLive: you can modifie the tb6560 from 1000pF down to 150pF and get a better output then the M542
01:17 AM IchGucksLive: its 7cent
01:18 AM CaptHindsight: you never hear about German investment in Poland or France
01:18 AM IchGucksLive: MOST cheep tb6600 are only M335
01:18 AM IchGucksLive: CaptHindsight, there are many you wont belive
01:18 AM ktc: tb6600 board in hk is us$10
01:19 AM CaptHindsight: IchGucksLive: I'm only kidding :)
01:19 AM gloops: i was reading an economists theory about germany atm 'boiled frog syndrome'
01:19 AM IchGucksLive: ktc, but there is no tb6600 inside
01:19 AM IchGucksLive: its the low cost m series chip not a Toshiba H-bridge
01:19 AM IchGucksLive: open one up
01:20 AM IchGucksLive: i burned some and opend it
01:20 AM IchGucksLive: the thicker ones got the real chip
01:20 AM CaptHindsight: I heard a rumor years ago that the Chunnel was to bypass France and end up in Hamburg
01:20 AM IchGucksLive: its the Same as M542
01:20 AM ktc: IchGucksLive: 3A thought that board
01:20 AM IchGucksLive: Sold as H T D DM Q
01:21 AM IchGucksLive: it is designed for 2,5A at 24V
01:21 AM IchGucksLive: if you get the low cost on 36V you will burn it on high speed
01:21 AM gloops: Ichs thats whats happening with mine
01:21 AM IchGucksLive: with Halfstepping
01:22 AM gloops: ive noticed the tb6600 on 1.9 Nm motor is not so bad
01:22 AM gloops: on 3Nm motor its useless
01:22 AM IchGucksLive: if you go microstepping it looses all the power so it will work
01:22 AM gloops: its ok slow
01:22 AM IchGucksLive: its designed for Pulley 1/16 or obive stepping
01:22 AM IchGucksLive: above
01:23 AM IchGucksLive: get a REAL M542 or a Fake DM556
01:23 AM gloops: the 3Nm motor sends back current, the driver cant cope
01:23 AM IchGucksLive: and you are up at 5M/min
01:24 AM IchGucksLive: for RAL deal like Fragelot has only the M860 is the way to go
01:24 AM IchGucksLive: enithing else is a crap
01:24 AM IchGucksLive: it will WORK shure
01:24 AM IchGucksLive: http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/schrank.jpg
01:25 AM IchGucksLive: THATS a MASHINE
01:25 AM IchGucksLive: Real Brigs and Power
01:25 AM IchGucksLive: 72V
01:25 AM IchGucksLive: 24V system
01:26 AM IchGucksLive: hi ves
01:27 AM IchGucksLive: ves how is it in CA
01:27 AM IchGucksLive: summer bunnys on beatch
01:27 AM IchGucksLive: ;-)
01:28 AM IchGucksLive: im off 2 Garden 30DEg called for this week from tomorrow 26deg C
01:28 AM IchGucksLive: so all out plant that can cope with low Temps
01:28 AM IchGucksLive: salat beens ....
01:28 AM gloops: maybe get into 20s here this week
01:29 AM IchGucksLive: gloops, sky said 25 will be in south
01:29 AM gloops: yeah big change, about time
01:29 AM IchGucksLive: gloops, red hair sarah havend been this morning
01:29 AM gloops: everything is 6 weeks behind
01:29 AM IchGucksLive: lots of snow in the USA this night
01:30 AM XXCoder: definitely not in regon im at
01:30 AM IchGucksLive: and all Hammering DT he is so good
01:30 AM ktc: have to go, bye
01:31 AM IchGucksLive: the world has woken UP un the US president hillery woudent get that thats clear
01:31 AM IchGucksLive: im off till later
01:36 AM gloops: i might design a donald trump intarsia, go like hot cakes on ebay
01:38 AM XXCoder: whats ointarsia
01:39 AM gloops: https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/0EM4sQZXw2cFdrAoW7Ne0g--~C/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9MTEyNTtxPTgwO3c9MTUwMA--/http://img1.etsystatic.com/000/0/5733357/il_fullxfull.110488741.jpg
01:40 AM gloops: political placards could be a seller, say 6mm mdf cutout lettering
01:41 AM gloops: TRUMP2020
01:41 AM XXCoder: yeah trump prison 2020 yay
01:41 AM gloops: screw a stick on, $40
01:43 AM gloops: $79 P&P
02:04 AM Deejay: moin
02:11 AM pink_vampire: i did huge mistake
02:14 AM XXCoder: pink ow what happened?
02:14 AM SpeedEvil: pink_vampire: Does poland no longer exist?
02:23 AM pink_vampire: i show to my gf some tools and ask her what they do.
02:49 AM rmu: "tool" is a very broad concept
02:49 AM pink_vampire: machinist tools
02:51 AM miss0r|office: rmu: did you solve the world crisis yesterday?
02:59 AM fragalot: Hi.
03:03 AM XXCoder: so whats your gf say?
03:03 AM XXCoder: she wanna try machine some stuff?
03:05 AM pink_vampire: the thought the dial indicator is a cooking thermometer
03:08 AM pink_vampire: the = she*
03:08 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder:
03:08 AM XXCoder: ouch!
03:09 AM XXCoder: hopefully its one of cheap one?
03:09 AM pink_vampire: the 30$ from grizzly
03:09 AM XXCoder: not too bad
03:09 AM miss0r|office: fragalot: I feel like a big time ciminal here. I just wired money to a swiss pank account :D
03:09 AM XXCoder: still would need serious cleanup I guess
03:09 AM XXCoder: miss0r|office: ohh fancy lol
03:10 AM pink_vampire: i bet it taste good
03:10 AM miss0r|office: XXCoder: I had to get my hands on the electrical drawings for an old mikron gear mill. They charge money to do a digital copy of the original microfolm :D
03:11 AM miss0r|office: microfilm*
03:11 AM XXCoder: lol
03:13 AM fragalot: xD
03:14 AM miss0r|office: vere is die microlim, mr. bond?!
03:14 AM miss0r|office: film, DAMNIT! I
03:14 AM miss0r|office: can't type today
03:14 AM XXCoder: lol
03:14 AM XXCoder: swiss accounts and microfilm oh my
03:14 AM XXCoder: spy
03:14 AM miss0r|office: shhh
03:15 AM fragalot: miss0r|office: I found nice keyboard bug yesterday
03:15 AM fragalot: if I type EDS quickly, it turns into EDZS
03:15 AM miss0r|office: how so?
03:16 AM fragalot: I think there's a multiplexing issue or a stray capacitance somehwere, because it also happens if I hold ED down and then push S.. I get ZS each time :P
03:16 AM miss0r|office: My keyboard doesn't seem to do that. But then again my fingers are all over the place today
03:16 AM fragalot: yeah it's only my Dell's internal keyboard that does it
03:16 AM fragalot: work laptop doesn't even register the S if I try the same
03:18 AM fragalot: wifi extender arrived \o/
03:19 AM miss0r|office: :O
03:19 AM miss0r|office: Aren't you at work?
03:19 AM fragalot: yes
03:19 AM fragalot: just got delivered to my desk :)
03:19 AM miss0r|office: THEN WHAT GOOD DOES IT DO NOW? :)
03:19 AM fragalot: well, I can get rid of the excessive packaging material.
03:19 AM fragalot: :D
03:20 AM miss0r|office: that is actualy a good point
03:27 AM miss0r: I'm thinking of getting one of those medium size dumpsters on wheels. I get alot of packaging material here.
03:27 AM miss0r: well alot might be big words. But with a decent size one, I could have it emptied 2 or three times a year
03:30 AM fragalot: friend of mine got one of those for his shop; best decision he's ever made :P
03:30 AM fragalot: they come & empty it every 2 months or so for him for a fixed fee
03:31 AM XXCoder: my work shop has a large one
03:33 AM miss0r: Back to the office to send a shitload of invoices...
03:33 AM XXCoder: yay
03:33 AM XXCoder: so you do office work eh?
03:34 AM miss0r|office: I have to.
03:34 AM fragalot: multitasking as well apparently
03:34 AM miss0r|office: nah, The shop is only 50 meters from the house, where I have 'the office' :)
03:34 AM fragalot: miss0r|office: during the day, miss0r during night.
03:34 AM fragalot: :D
03:35 AM miss0r|office: it depends. I do have to send out invoices and do the books to stay afloat
03:36 AM XXCoder: indeed
03:36 AM fragalot: that's why a good bookkeeping tool is invaluable
03:37 AM miss0r|office: yeah
03:37 AM miss0r|office: I use M$ C5.. but I hear they will stop updating it soon
03:38 AM fragalot: they're all shutting down the non-cloud apps one by one
03:39 AM miss0r|office: those bastards!
03:40 AM XXCoder: heh im still using office 2010
03:41 AM gloops: im seeing some mention of RESET for some stepper drivers, how is that done?
03:45 AM gloops: RESET signal is effective when offline
03:45 AM gloops:
03:45 AM gloops: Make RESET ineffective
03:50 AM rmu: gloops: pls elaborate
03:50 AM gloops: the practice of selling stuff with documentation literally written in pigeon chinese is not accidental or a matter of language differences, its a cynical sales ploy, you get stuck cant find the information so you give up and buy a new item
03:51 AM gloops: rmu im having a quick look at a driver i cross wired, its now got 1 blinking led and no activity other than that
03:52 AM gloops: there is some mention of RESET in the scant manual, i thought that would happen automitically by powering off and on but maybe not
03:52 AM gloops: there is no reset switch or marking or anything
03:53 AM gloops: nothing looks burnt out in the driver
04:13 AM rmu: gloops: pictures or it didn't happen
04:14 AM rmu: gloops: show the wiring
04:14 AM pink_vampire: totally!
04:16 AM XXCoder: indeed as always rmu heh
04:17 AM pink_vampire: i neet to cut new felt vipers
04:17 AM XXCoder: wipers?
04:18 AM pink_vampire: lol yeah
04:19 AM XXCoder: felt vipers sound dangerous lol
04:20 AM pink_vampire: this is how the lathe works
04:21 AM fragalot: they're common
04:21 AM fragalot: I really need to make some for my mill at some point, as it doesn't have any form of wipers or way covers as I got it
04:21 AM fragalot: now it just has rubber sheets over the ways but I don't feel like that is enough
04:21 AM fragalot: but first.. i tneeds to come apart completely. :)
04:22 AM pink_vampire: fragalot: i did my lathe, now is your turn.
04:22 AM fragalot: how do you feel about a week holiday to belgium to do my lathe?
04:22 AM fragalot: mill*
04:23 AM pink_vampire: not bad actually
04:24 AM XXCoder: pink ask for $100 a hour ;)
04:25 AM fragalot: XXCoder: /holiday/ :P
04:25 AM XXCoder: yep. paid holiday is best kind lol
04:25 AM pink_vampire: fragalot: but you want me to work...
04:29 AM fragalot: only a little
04:29 AM pink_vampire: it took me over 2 weeks to do my lathe..
04:29 AM fragalot: just to do the felt strips?
04:29 AM gloops: like these fragalot http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_DjlPaL3yEPk/TIe9FDy1GbI/AAAAAAAAFbo/VcdaOn6Zh-s/s1600/FeltSnake05.JPG
04:29 AM pink_vampire: LOL
04:29 AM pink_vampire: killing me!
04:29 AM gloops: rmu ive given up on the driver and decided to do something more constructive, like tidy the garage up
04:30 AM XXCoder: lol gloops with marks on side it can be a ruler also
04:32 AM gloops: cnc sewing machine, thats another uncommon one with diyers
04:33 AM pink_vampire: se660
04:33 AM pink_vampire: https://www.walmart.com/ip/Brother-SE625-Combination-Computerized-Sewing-and-4x4-Embroidery-Machine-with-Color-LCD-display-280-Total-Embroidery-Designs/802986799
04:34 AM pink_vampire: se625*
04:34 AM fragalot: gloops: my mum's got one
04:34 AM gloops: i bet you can make a lot of stuff with one of those
04:34 AM fragalot: well, about 3 or so because of a hobby that's gotten out of hand
04:35 AM gloops: interesting
04:35 AM gloops: https://s.yimg.com/fz/api/res/1.2/h0KKcXdY_Bz3lzRfjr6OTQ--~C/YXBwaWQ9c3JjaGRkO2g9NjM0O3E9ODA7dz05ODc-/http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-l-ijpmG3QqM/UN268_105sI/AAAAAAAAEH8/Nw1WEWMitbE/s1600/3D_01c.jpg
04:37 AM pink_vampire: now you need do download sophiesew
04:37 AM pink_vampire: http://sophiesew.com/SS2/the-software/
04:38 AM gloops: its all there
04:38 AM XXCoder: thats pretty cool. for usage with machine abovve or more cnc version?
04:57 AM jthornton: morning
04:58 AM XXCoder: hey
05:00 AM pink_vampire: hey jthornton
05:15 AM jthornton: what's up this morning
05:19 AM XXCoder: not much
05:19 AM pink_vampire: jthornton: my lathe is up and running
05:19 AM jthornton: got a photo of it?
05:22 AM pink_vampire: i need to make a cover for the wiring box, and add wipers
05:25 AM Tom_L: 25°F, high
05:25 AM Tom_L: 64
05:28 AM XXCoder: 40s f here all week
05:30 AM pink_vampire: 37F here
05:30 AM jthornton: only got down to 34°F here so far
05:33 AM fragalot: 71°F here
05:35 AM pink_vampire: where i can find blinker fluid and elbow grease?
05:42 AM Tom_L: elbow grease is getting harder to come by nowdays
05:45 AM Loetmichel: pink_vampire: https://etel-tuning.eu/pflege-wartung/84-blinkerwasser.html
05:46 AM Loetmichel: no ellbow grease though
05:47 AM Tom_L: curious what the Mafia pay is about
05:49 AM rmu: hehe... they also have "Keilriemenfett" and "Getriebesand"
05:50 AM Loetmichel: rmu: and "vergaserinnenbeleuchtung"
05:51 AM Loetmichel: (carburetor internal lighs)
05:51 AM Loetmichel: and "kolbenrückholfeder"
05:51 AM Loetmichel: (piston return spring)
05:57 AM fragalot: that's great :D
05:59 AM Loetmichel: fragalot: best is that: https://etel-tuning.eu/werkzeug-zubehor/183-adapter-drehstrom-auf-gardena.html
05:59 AM Loetmichel: :-)
06:06 AM pink_vampire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eWdqlpxRA4I
06:06 AM pink_vampire: LOLL
06:13 AM pink_vampire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E6GsXhBb10k
06:20 AM XXCoder: lol pink_vampire
06:25 AM pink_vampire: it soo funny
06:26 AM pink_vampire: I need to try that one time
06:29 AM XXCoder: one of those or your own funny "guide" video?
06:31 AM pink_vampire: i need to ask in some auto part shop about those stuff, and see there faces.
06:34 AM XXCoder: lol
06:34 AM XXCoder: they might actually try to charge you for those.
06:36 AM pink_vampire: what muffler bearing are the best?
06:37 AM pink_vampire: how do i pre-load the angular contact muffler bearing?
06:46 AM XXCoder: execellent, throw some machinist terms in
06:46 AM XXCoder: so they get confused with someone talking about car nonsense with proper usage of mchine terms
06:48 AM pink_vampire: when i put my dial indicator on the muffler bearing it's not run true.
06:48 AM XXCoder: lol
07:03 AM Beachbumpete1: MORNING :)
07:04 AM pink_vampire: hi Beachbumpete1
07:21 AM Beachbumpete1: HOWZITGOIN PINKIE ;)
07:21 AM gloops: https://forum.freecadweb.org/viewtopic.php?f=24&t=27878
07:22 AM gloops: 'i started this project a FEW YEARS AGO' lol!
07:29 AM * jthornton wonders what broke in the fridge...
07:30 AM Loetmichel: >/me just has 40 24" TFT front bezels on the mill. to make 1.1mm room/clearance for a shielding glass pane... muuch trust in double sided tape atm ;)
07:31 AM Loetmichel: ... i hope it will still be tacky enough once i am trhu with the 40 pcs ;)
07:32 AM Beachbumpete1: Damn gloops that is some impressive work man
07:33 AM Beachbumpete1: freecad has come a LONG WAY apparently ;)
07:39 AM Blumax: Hello. I modify the UI with PyVCP to run GCode, all works well, all the time I have a command that could break my machining mills if I support by a button, is it possible to add a pop-up confirmation box inside GCode ?
07:39 AM Loetmichel: *MUHAHA* just clicked accidentally on the "online timer" of mIRC... 23013:50:30 (hhhhh:mm:ss)... thats quite a bit of time ;)
07:47 AM Beachbumpete1: Loetmichel jeez you must live in here man ;)
07:47 AM Loetmichel: Beachbumpete1: i do ;)
07:47 AM Beachbumpete1: hehe
07:49 AM Blumax: I will use M6 ...
07:50 AM fragalot: Loetmichel: that's only about 3 years.. Weak. :D
07:51 AM Beachbumpete1: hehe Im a NOOB compared to that
07:55 AM Beachbumpete1: hmm icechat does not seem to have that feature
07:55 AM Rab: Blumax, maybe look at M00 too.
07:56 AM Blumax: Rab, tank, I will test that :)
07:57 AM miss0r: fragalot: So apparently my 'new' car here, has an engine that will die within the near future. I went to the place i bought it(used car salesman), and they looked at it, and told me it needs a new engine.. *sigh*. I've only driven it for 2000km
07:57 AM fragalot: >.<
07:57 AM fragalot: do they offer any form of warranty?
07:57 AM miss0r: fragalot: It 'should' be covered by the guarantee, but we all know what a shady bunch those used car dealers are
07:57 AM fragalot: ...
07:58 AM miss0r: They will do what they can to get around it, no doubt about that, but I could take them to court and win this without blinking, and I think they know that.
07:58 AM miss0r: I just wanted a working car, damnit !
07:59 AM miss0r: freck, I spend too much time today trying to get this done
08:04 AM Loetmichel: fragalot: considering that i reformated the PC here about six years ago...
08:21 AM JT-Shop: I finally figured out which lens protectors I needed for my welding helmet but after reading about the newer technology helmets I said screw that and ordered a new welding helmet
08:21 AM IchGucksLive: hi all from a Sunny springfeeling germany
08:25 AM IchGucksLive: what a cool day
08:25 AM IchGucksLive: nothing to do beside gardening
08:25 AM IchGucksLive: im a happy old man
08:31 AM Loetmichel: IchGucksLive: yes, i am waiting eagerly for 17:00 on the clock so i can open my convertibles canopy and drive home open :-)
08:31 AM Loetmichel: ah, alöready gone :-(
08:31 AM Loetmichel: -ö
08:49 AM Beachbumpete1: Verts are nice I miss my old jeeps
08:51 AM Loetmichel: ... it also helps drying it out... now that i used a whole liter of waterproofing on the canvas it SHOULD be waterproof again ;)
08:51 AM Loetmichel: <- had wet trousers todaybecause of the 1" "foot bath" in all four foot wells of the E36 :-(
08:58 AM JT-Shop: yea the refrigerator just had a dirty coil and a frozen evaporator coil
09:19 AM gloops: miss0r get a little frencho van with hdi engine, theyre good for 300k miles
09:23 AM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/citroen-berlingo-2-0-hdi-2006-90-000-miles/173272013890?
09:23 AM gloops: i got another one the other week to run about in, loads and loads about going cheap, if it does sieze up dont bother spending anything on it just buy another
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: hi
10:26 AM IchGucksLive: Blumax, still here
10:32 AM Joe_Hildreth: \quit
10:35 AM IchGucksLive: till later
11:00 AM methods_: https://medium.com/@CodyBrown/how-to-lose-8k-worth-of-bitcoin-in-15-minutes-with-verizon-and-coinbase-com-ba75fb8d0bac
11:19 AM Deejay: whoopsie
11:26 AM IchGucksLive: hi
11:38 AM Beachbumpete1: hehehehe frencho van
11:46 AM Beachbumpete1: damn I know squat about online coinbase and other financial sites but that would SUCK!!
12:19 PM IchGucksLive: im off Gn8
12:22 PM gregcnc: teslonda? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IOLzpBzUXZs
12:24 PM fragalot: hey
12:24 PM methods_: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDq4kjY19UU
12:24 PM methods_: festo flying bat
12:25 PM gregcnc: those festo creations are cool and somewhat terrifying
12:26 PM methods_: yeah that one is pretty cool
12:31 PM miss0r: goodevening
12:39 PM fragalot_ is now known as fragalot
12:39 PM fragalot: hi miss0r|office
12:40 PM miss0r: He cannot hear you... mwuhahahaha
12:40 PM fragalot: that won't stop me
12:40 PM miss0r: I had that feeling
12:40 PM miss0r: Have you done more to your project?
12:40 PM fragalot: miss0r|office: wifi extender is up; but apparently the missUs wants me to wait for food >.>
12:40 PM miss0r: ARE YOU IN THE SHOP NOW ON THE OTHER END ?
12:41 PM miss0r: damn that vile woman !
12:41 PM miss0r: :]
12:41 PM fragalot: miss0r|office: yet she won't tell me how long that will be
12:41 PM fragalot: ._.
12:41 PM miss0r: It better be B&B night
12:42 PM miss0r: wait till you have children, then dinner is served at 17:00...
12:43 PM fragalot: but i'm at work then :<
12:43 PM miss0r: nope...
12:43 PM miss0r: damn I wish I had some 15mm aluminium stock. so I didn't have to shave down this lot
12:44 PM fragalot: I've got a good source for that now :3
12:44 PM miss0r: :]
12:44 PM fragalot: i'm having second thoughts about my mill mainly working on steel now :D
12:45 PM miss0r: what do you mean?
12:45 PM fragalot: alu is _SO_ easy to machine
12:45 PM miss0r: (bare with me, I haven't had alot of sleep last night) What is your point?
12:45 PM fragalot: I mean.. even the RF45 can handle slotting with a 14mm endmill, with a 10mm solid pass
12:46 PM fragalot: no point, just.. ..... eh.
12:46 PM miss0r: I'm serious: I don't even understand what your second thoughts are about?! :S
12:46 PM fragalot: alu is so much easier than steel
12:46 PM fragalot: so I may just end up buying more alu stock than steel stock
12:47 PM fragalot: hence the mill doing more alu than steel
12:47 PM miss0r: For various projects in the future?
12:47 PM fragalot: yes
12:47 PM miss0r: Well, it all depends on the application
12:47 PM fragalot: ofcourse
12:47 PM miss0r: but sure, I alu whenever i can get away with it
12:47 PM miss0r: Alot faster to machine(I would not call it easier)
12:48 PM fragalot: I tried some of that alu blackening stuff from thingyjobber
12:48 PM fragalot: coldwell?
12:48 PM fragalot: caldwell?
12:48 PM fragalot: I forgot
12:48 PM miss0r: did it do good?
12:48 PM fragalot: turns out it's absolute shite if you want to etch 'sharp' corners
12:48 PM fragalot: and not durable at all
12:48 PM miss0r: heh
12:48 PM fragalot: but on flat surfaces.. Yup, it sure does blacken things
12:49 PM miss0r: alright. I don't think I've ever heard nice things about a diy alu blackening compound
12:49 PM fragalot: I might try DIY anodising
12:49 PM miss0r: Let me know how that turns out. I will start shipping my parts to you for anodising, if you get good at it ;)
12:49 PM fragalot: I just wish someone that had a basic grasp of electricity would show a howto, rather than someone that doesn't know that current & voltage are related
12:50 PM fragalot: Sure
12:50 PM miss0r: "keep it in the family" sorta' deal
12:50 PM miss0r: it might cost a bit more than my local joe, but I wouldn't mind we helping eachother out ;)
12:56 PM fragalot: turns out it's easy to make it pink
12:57 PM miss0r: that explains alot of... toys
12:58 PM fragalot: http://astro.neutral.org/anodise.shtml <- quite good info on here too
12:58 PM * fragalot stares at the motor mount bracket
12:58 PM * fragalot stares at the battery acid
12:59 PM fragalot: this could work. :D
12:59 PM miss0r: :D
12:59 PM miss0r: don't blow your face off
12:59 PM fragalot: this is only mildly more dangerous than etching pcb's :P
01:00 PM miss0r: "strikingly tasteless colours"... I like this bloke :D
01:31 PM jthornton: oh well lunch minute is over with and the boss said go back to work
01:39 PM gloops: lol
01:41 PM miss0r: Bleh. I just can't pull myself up at the moment. I think I'll just call it a night, and go to bed. I think I'm comming down with something
01:42 PM miss0r: have a good one people
01:42 PM fragalot: guess you didn't want to see those pics of my rf45 ways then
01:42 PM fragalot: cya miss0r|office
01:42 PM miss0r: ... I'll stick around
01:42 PM fragalot: xD
01:42 PM miss0r: for the pictures, if you are fast :D
01:42 PM fragalot: well I still have to start taking it apart
01:42 PM fragalot: so it may be a few hours, lol
01:43 PM miss0r: Well, Then I will see'em tomorrow
01:43 PM miss0r: or else...
01:43 PM * miss0r shakes his fist
01:44 PM fragalot: good lord so many mosquitos in the shed
01:44 PM fragalot: also.. I guess this means the repeater works :D
01:44 PM miss0r: Get a mosquito magnet, like me ;) it works wonders
01:44 PM miss0r: indeed.
01:44 PM miss0r: so, are you hours away from pictures? or was that just a gag to get me going?
01:45 PM fragalot: I'm about to start cleaning up the mill & making some room on the workbench to put the table
01:45 PM fragalot: so yes.. quite a while away
01:45 PM miss0r: alright. Have a good one doing it ;) I'll get some shuteye
01:46 PM fragalot: cya
02:03 PM * fragalot made a mistake
02:03 PM fragalot: I bought prussian blue in a tin
02:03 PM fragalot: pro tip of the day: never buy it in a tin
02:03 PM fragalot: it's impossible to open, and when you do,.. everything is now permanently blue :P
02:06 PM syyl: smurf-bomb
02:07 PM syyl: dont worry
02:07 PM syyl: its the same with dykem in a tube
02:07 PM fragalot: :P
02:07 PM gloops: all you want now is a tin of red, youll be like a druid
02:07 PM fragalot: the gibs indeed look horrendous syyl
02:07 PM syyl: or papa-smurf
02:07 PM syyl: he was red/blue
02:07 PM fragalot: looks like someone went to town with a centre punch on it
02:07 PM syyl: haha
02:07 PM syyl: didnt fit exactky
02:07 PM syyl: or it was already to thin
02:08 PM gloops: trying to burr it up?
02:08 PM syyl: "pull a millwright"
02:08 PM syyl: yes
02:08 PM syyl: hammer&chisel mechanic
02:09 PM fragalot: I think there were some ball bearings in the gib slot when they tightened it up
02:09 PM syyl: ouch
02:09 PM fragalot: right.. Time to hit the lap until it's somewhat flat
02:09 PM syyl: our they straightened it with a ballpain-hammer
02:09 PM fragalot: no, it's only in 2 locations
02:09 PM syyl: oh
02:09 PM syyl: maybe the lock?
02:10 PM fragalot: oh! that'd be it
02:10 PM syyl: to contribute something usefull at least ;)
02:10 PM fragalot: i replaced it with a brass pin when I put my DRO on, never thought about damage that was already done
02:10 PM fragalot: :P
02:12 PM fragalot: soo flat
02:12 PM fragalot: syyl: is hand lapping faster, or scraping for rough work?
02:13 PM syyl: i think scraping is faster in both cases ;)
02:13 PM fragalot: https://photos.app.goo.gl/V8OlVIev4Iz1zgOE2
02:13 PM syyl: to me, lapping is a high precision process
02:14 PM syyl: check if it is bent
02:14 PM syyl: it should have a matching bend on the other side
02:14 PM fragalot: hollow on both sidezs
02:14 PM syyl: (high in the middle)
02:14 PM syyl: oh
02:14 PM syyl: thats stupid
02:14 PM fragalot: no.. sorry, it is bent
02:15 PM syyl: :D
02:15 PM fragalot: I was dumb and flipped it twice
02:15 PM syyl: they all are
02:15 PM fragalot: xD
02:15 PM syyl: :D
02:15 PM syyl: you can very carefully bend them straight
02:15 PM syyl: so you dont have to scrape as much
02:15 PM syyl: carefull, they break...
02:16 PM * gloops cringes
02:16 PM * fragalot walks away from the press
02:16 PM syyl: with two blocks of wood, a clamp and a dial indicator
02:16 PM syyl: richard king approved method
02:16 PM syyl: i did it myself a few times, works wekk
02:16 PM syyl: *well
02:16 PM fragalot: alright
02:17 PM syyl: https://youtu.be/-4o4M2zBg6c?t=5m29s
02:17 PM syyl: here you see it briefly
02:18 PM fragalot: sweet
02:18 PM syyl: in most cases you dont need the clamp
02:18 PM syyl: just press down with your thumb
02:18 PM syyl: cuts down on scraping by a huge amount
02:18 PM fragalot: only .16mm of bend
02:18 PM fragalot: >.<
02:19 PM syyl: otherwise you would have to scrape the bow out on both sides
02:19 PM fragalot: oh wow it really does not take much
02:20 PM syyl: yes
02:20 PM syyl: everything is made out of rubber
02:24 PM gloops: well, makers hut, as promised, dispatched the same day (or next working day)
02:29 PM gloops: they were £4 more expensive than the cheapest, but i like that kind of responsible business ethos, i will use these again
03:23 PM ves: Having same problem digitizing with Mach3 as with LCNC, run out of memory and stuff crashes
03:26 PM gloops: well, going through windows as well was unlikely to speed things up
03:31 PM * fragalot really needs to buy a better scraper than his long HSS toolbit with a file handle on it
03:31 PM fragalot: going well though, but I can't get a wide enough radius on the end
03:48 PM Deejay: gn8
04:00 PM cradek: ves: if you're asking for help you'll have to give a lot more details about what you are doing, and what you are seeing, including exact error messages
04:01 PM cradek: (hm, unless you're asking about mach3, in which case you're in the wrong place)
05:07 PM ves: More of a gripe really... I see what LCNC does under this new 2.8.0-pre1 and my Mesa 7i92M
07:25 PM Roguish: ouch. just files taxes.................painful this year.
07:31 PM jdh: Roguish: but, just wait until next year!
07:52 PM Roguish: jdh: ya know, i don't really mind paying taxes. means i'm making money. what pisses me is i just don't believe i'm getting good value for my money. and i don't see why i gotta support the f*** world.......................
07:52 PM Roguish: i'm tired.......
07:53 PM jdh: if you made more money, you wouldn't have better ways to shield it from taxes. Consider it a incentive!
07:54 PM Roguish: i know, i know....
08:12 PM Tom_L: the govt is smiling on you for a job well done
08:12 PM Roguish: should've been a city gardner.
08:13 PM Roguish: gardener
08:13 PM Tom_L: if you work for them, A: you don't have to work, B: you get real good benefits
08:14 PM Tom_L: but you do have to put up with the bureaucrats
10:17 PM CaptHindsight: Rotating unbalance example https://i.imgur.com/hVMjyN6.gifv