#linuxcnc Logs

Dec 17 2017

12:09 AM dave__ is now known as gloops
12:12 AM gloops: how close to the ends of the screw is it reasonable to work
12:48 AM MrHindsight: I use em all the way to the ends
12:53 AM gloops: 10 mm gap? but are you using stop switches on both ends?
12:55 AM MrHindsight: yes, limit switches
12:56 AM gloops: thinking about it, if you use 1 limit switch on one end then set the maximum travel for the screw that should work too
12:56 AM gloops: just ive got one axis where the screw only just covers the travel i want
01:12 AM Contract_Pilot: Sup... got the tormach bob test wired... seems to work...
01:12 AM Contract_Pilot: its a mess but editing the INI now.
01:26 AM gloops: nice one
01:46 AM XXCoder: ohh looks good https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSE3GmUdxoQ
02:05 AM Deejay: moin
02:05 AM XXCoder: hey
02:06 AM XXCoder: check this out https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nSE3GmUdxoQ
02:06 AM Deejay: roger that
02:07 AM XXCoder: I wish I am good manual machinist lol
02:08 AM XXCoder: honestly most of those parts could be made with turret lol
02:08 AM Deejay: wow, impressive
02:09 AM XXCoder: motor is from banggood though he makes very nice mod to make it into power generator
02:13 AM gloops: using some decent tooling there though, and a lot of setting up not being shown
03:04 AM Wolfmetalfab is now known as Wolf__
03:33 AM XXCoder: holy shit https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o8DpTDKDlUc
03:33 AM XXCoder: almost cnc planr
04:36 AM gloops: right, having this cup of tea then im getting this machine done if its the last thing i do!
04:36 AM XXCoder: whats you doing now
04:36 AM XXCoder: (on machine)
04:37 AM archivist: pictures or it didnt happen
04:38 AM gloops: i took the gantry back to pieces yesterday
04:39 AM gloops: a few minor misalignment issues
04:39 AM gloops: thats getting done now, then reposition x rails, then assemble z axis, today all of it
04:41 AM gloops: i really dont like the way sbr linear bearings work under duress
04:42 AM jthornton: morning
04:42 AM archivist: the roughness?
04:42 AM gloops: so im going to try rollon bearings for the z
04:42 AM archivist: or the play when not adjusted
04:43 AM gloops: roughness - or tightening up, generally a bit sketchy, will avoid them on the z, they run beautiful when in line
04:43 AM Contract_Pilot: Yea, i have to change a prox sensor to a NPN ughhh
04:44 AM archivist: gloops, is it your alignment or the bearings
04:46 AM gloops: archivist theyre aligned, run smooth, but if you exert lateral force, twisting forces or whatever, they act tight, that is going to happen on the z axis
04:46 AM gloops: the plastic shells in them sound like they could shatter
04:48 AM gloops: hard to explain, i just dont think theyre right for the z
04:48 AM archivist: all of the ball slides have some plastic, I dont think the plastic is to blame
04:49 AM gloops: im not really blaming the plastic, maybe i could tighten the adjust on the z to keep them in line, but theyre gonna be jerked about constantly on there
04:49 AM archivist: the fact that they are in flimsy open holders....
04:50 AM gloops: the x rail is ok with 2 screws, the y rails are going to get it as well
04:50 AM gloops: will jut have to see
04:50 AM archivist: you are bolting to black tube direct?
04:51 AM gloops: yeah the sbr rails straight on
04:53 AM gloops: ive got 2 box sections bolted to 2 uprights to make the gantry, the bolting plates are not good fitting to keep everything square, i could shim them but im going to grind them right instead
04:53 AM archivist: because black toooob is probably a lot less striaght than chinese sbr
04:54 AM jthornton: got a photo of the gantry?
04:54 AM gloops: jthronton ill take some pics later, its in bits again
04:54 AM jthornton: ok
04:55 AM gloops: the box section is ok by a straight edge, i consider scraping it to be a final tweaking thing - see how it works without first
04:55 AM gloops: anyway off
07:12 AM IchGucksLive: hi
07:52 AM * jthornton is not getting breakfast at 8:30 this morning... wife is still asleep
07:54 AM Loetmichel: jthornton: DO. IT. YOURSEF!
07:54 AM Loetmichel: :-)
07:54 AM XXCoder: man it up and cook
07:54 AM Loetmichel: ever thought of bringing breakfast to bed to your wife? could give you some points ;)
07:54 AM jthornton: she won't want to eat for an hour or more
07:57 AM Loetmichel: hihi. my wife just made me some pancakes with maple syrup for breakfast (its 14:55 over here, i just woke up an hour ago or so). just because i mentoined that i never had pancakes with maple syrup a few days ago when i noticed the maple bottle on the kitchen counter ;)
07:57 AM jthornton: is the maple syrup heated up?
07:57 AM Contract_Pilot: Goal is to get the VFD and Spindle temp wired after nap time... '
08:01 AM Contract_Pilot: Another all nighter... darn adhd...
08:09 AM Loetmichel: Contract_Pilot: burning the midnight oil?
08:10 AM Contract_Pilot: Always...
08:11 AM Contract_Pilot: Long night but Green Lights.... http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/49D750C1-083C-4513-965D-5A004F83597C-1024x768.jpeg
08:13 AM Contract_Pilot: Only have PNP Proximity Switches so i need to get some NPN
08:30 AM jym: Contract_Pilot: https://uk.rs-online.com/web/p/interface-modules/5329980/
08:32 AM Contract_Pilot: Humm may work... but not befor monday
08:32 AM * Tom_L joins Loetmichel for pancakes
08:33 AM Contract_Pilot: I may have already killed my prox sensor anyway.
08:34 AM jym: Contract_Pilot: http://www.technosoft.ro/KB/index.php?/article/AA-00239/0/PNP-to-NPN-adapter-For-the-Technosoft-drives-with-NPN-inputs-GB-CM.html
08:34 AM Tom_L: you can't reverse the logic in software?
08:34 AM jym: Contract_Pilot: http://www.technosoft.ro/KB/admin/media_store/2/AA-00239/24vdc_pnp%20to%20npn%20adapter.jpg
08:34 AM Loetmichel: Contract_Pilot: that looks like a REALLY nice driver box!
08:35 AM jym: Loetmichel: But I'd still hate to be the bastard that would have to rack it with all that weight up front =)
08:35 AM * Loetmichel made a stepper driver box in 19" 1U a few years ago... for a friend: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=4017&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
08:36 AM Loetmichel: a lot lighter though
08:36 AM jym: Loetmichel: I'd say that's 2U, not 1U
08:36 AM Contract_Pilot: ohhh it had a 3rd PSU in it also
08:37 AM Loetmichel: jym. its 1u
08:37 AM Loetmichel: ok, it was 55mm so a bit more than 1u
08:38 AM jym: Loetmichel: haha, Hey I worked in a datacenter un/racking servers all niht long, I knows me 1U's =)
08:39 AM jym: ...and me mother fucking 12U's raid arrays too... GAWD those were a beast to rack, and always at the TOP of the rack too
08:40 AM Loetmichel: jym: anything but UPses
08:40 AM Loetmichel: those are a PITA
08:40 AM Loetmichel: espcially the battery packs
08:40 AM jym: Loetmichel: Nah, we used the forklift for those =)
08:40 AM Loetmichel: i did one 3kW with extra battery pack lately. by hand.
08:41 AM Loetmichel: maan, i thought my spine would break
08:41 AM Loetmichel: (alone of course)
08:41 AM jym: Loetmichel: and of course the batteiries would always catch and not go in, or plug up when you only have one had free
08:42 AM Loetmichel: yes
08:45 AM jym: Loetmichel: Was clear out a data center one time, I got 8 full-length 4U UPS's, I think the tires on my car flattened out some once all loaded.
08:46 AM Loetmichel: jym: there it is. missing the pattery pack though. -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=12964&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
08:46 AM jym: Loetmichel: Yep, the other cabinet that looks just like it is al the batteries =)
08:47 AM Loetmichel: yes
08:47 AM jym: Well, the other three cabinets are all the batteries =)
08:47 AM Loetmichel: ahem, no
08:47 AM Loetmichel: its all the same cabinet
08:48 AM Loetmichel: the ups is the 2u thing on the lowest level
08:48 AM Loetmichel: but the battery pack was exactly the same size as it
08:48 AM jym: Loetmichel: I had a chance to get a 50KWh UPS, it was 4 cabinets of battereis + the UPS cabinet which was twice as wide as the pic you just showed me
08:48 AM Loetmichel: this thing was meant to be mobile
08:49 AM jym: This was meant to power a whole bldg =)
08:49 AM Loetmichel: it can house 40u of severs and be unplugged, rollled into the safe, replugged and work like nothing happened
08:49 AM jym: less the ethernet cable =)
08:49 AM Loetmichel: i doubt the blue wheels on it would withstand the load of being full with batteries though
08:50 AM Loetmichel: yes, the ethernet and fiber has to be unplugged as well
08:50 AM jym: See, that's just wrong. Should have been dual lan
08:50 AM Loetmichel: dual?
08:51 AM Loetmichel: did you count the numer of connections on the side panel?
08:51 AM jym: Yeah, you can bond two ethernet together
08:51 AM jym: then no loss in traffic, just a slight lag during the switchover
08:52 AM Loetmichel: it has 4 RJ45 connectors outside and 12 fiber connectors...
08:52 AM Loetmichel: its meant to be able to move to different positions. without rebooting the servers, not "traffic loss free"
08:53 AM jym: can have both
08:53 AM Loetmichel: wasnt the intention there
08:53 AM Loetmichel: its just a shielded enclosure that can be moved into the safe for the night.
08:54 AM Loetmichel: it doesen have to be "always on"
08:55 AM Loetmichel: the customer just didnt want to boot the systems up every morning
08:55 AM Loetmichel: on the plus side: the ups batteries get lots of exercise in that config ;)
08:57 AM jym: Loetmichel: I don't know, seems a bit much to me. But it's whatever =)
08:57 AM jym: a remote boot an hour before coming in seems simpler =)
09:00 AM archivist: easier to run it from the safe always
09:01 AM Loetmichel: archivist: not allowed to put any data cables into it
09:01 AM Loetmichel: it was a hassle to get power in already (permission wise, not actually drilling the holes)
09:04 AM archivist: wide open to the net during the day though!
09:42 AM IchGucksLive: hi
09:43 AM gloops: 3 raspberry donuts today
09:44 AM gloops: you cant beat a lining of grease and sugar on the stomach
09:44 AM archivist: ring dougnuts no jam for me
09:44 AM archivist: those at the fair still hot
09:44 AM gloops: theyre nice - these were on offer 6 pence for the bag lol
09:45 AM gloops: the hot ones dipped in sugar that melt in your mouth are the best yeah
09:46 AM MarcelineVQ: pretty much the only thing worth the price at a fair
09:48 AM gloops: so long as you dont look too closely at the hygiene practices in the back of the van
09:48 AM MarcelineVQ: you'll have to trust the temp of the oil to clean the doughnuts :>
09:49 AM archivist: there was one in meadowhall but was missing last time I was up there
09:49 AM MarcelineVQ: hopefully there's not too many horrors in the berry sugar
09:50 AM gloops: well a quick choir before it gets dark
10:00 AM MarcelineVQ: gosh, you can fit a lot of power into a small package with bldc
10:01 AM MarcelineVQ: I hope my forways into cnc go well so I can have an excuse to try out bldc motors later on ehe
10:01 AM archivist: some use them for spindles
10:03 AM MarcelineVQ: my language of choice has people starting to write software for motor control so it's an exciting time
10:04 AM SpeedEvil: MarcelineVQ: xslt?
10:05 AM MarcelineVQ: SpeedEvil: oh you :>
10:13 AM mtpocketscnc: Hello. Good day to all
10:14 AM IchGucksLive: ;-)
10:14 AM xDR1TeK: howdy folks, just checking if this channel still exists
10:14 AM IchGucksLive: mtpocketscnc: asjk if you need help
10:15 AM IchGucksLive: im in germany
10:18 AM mtpocketscnc: https://pastebin.com/0PubcPPp
10:19 AM mtpocketscnc: i'm trying to get ngcgui working any ideas on whats wrong with my ini
10:19 AM IchGucksLive: did you start the AXIS SIM ngcgui mashine
10:19 AM mtpocketscnc: axis wont run unless i comment out stuff for ngcgui
10:19 AM IchGucksLive: you need to start one sim mashine first to setup all the folder
10:20 AM mtpocketscnc: been running axis sim
10:20 AM mtpocketscnc: when i compiled i selected run in place
10:20 AM IchGucksLive: close it
10:21 AM IchGucksLive: open linuxcnc from a terminal by typing linuxcnc
10:21 AM IchGucksLive: Sample config
10:21 AM IchGucksLive: sim
10:21 AM IchGucksLive: axis
10:21 AM IchGucksLive: ngcgui
10:22 AM IchGucksLive: ngcgui_simple
10:22 AM IchGucksLive: say yes
10:22 AM IchGucksLive: close it
10:22 AM IchGucksLive: and het also the pyvcp extenchen
10:23 AM IchGucksLive: as startin pyngcgui_axis
10:23 AM IchGucksLive: then we talk
10:24 AM IchGucksLive: you shoudt see a FOLDER named ngcgui_lib in your nc_folder
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: THIS is by far the most worse INI if ever saw
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: as twice as bad as gloops ones
10:27 AM mtpocketscnc: when i run linuxcnc and pick sim axis it just starts axis. Am I supposed to have ngcgui choice?
10:28 AM IchGucksLive: SAMPLE CONFIG
10:28 AM IchGucksLive: the almost botton part
10:28 AM IchGucksLive: not sim Axis
10:34 AM mtpocketscnc: is there somewhere i can post a screenshot?
10:38 AM IchGucksLive: i will do it for you
10:38 AM archivist: er wot
10:41 AM skunkworks: mtpocketscnc, under sim -> axis -> ngcgui
10:41 AM skunkworks: ton of configs in there
10:42 AM IchGucksLive: skunkworks: not on the new one
10:42 AM IchGucksLive: UPLOADING
10:42 AM skunkworks: new what?
10:42 AM IchGucksLive: the dvd has it split
10:43 AM mtpocketscnc: i can pick sim axis but i don't see anything about ngcgui. thats why i wanted to try to figure to post screenshot
10:44 AM IchGucksLive: https://youtu.be/UMS9sHaP6Eo
10:44 AM IchGucksLive: her it is
10:44 AM IchGucksLive: only for you
10:46 AM IchGucksLive: mtpocketscnc: this is my YT https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmwhCL92ZQRSVqFe3jGwJSQ/videos
10:47 AM mtpocketscnc: The first one helped my Ich. Got it! Thanks
10:48 AM mtpocketscnc: I guess I was looking at it with tunnel vision
10:49 AM IchGucksLive: NP
10:50 AM IchGucksLive: skunkworks: what version are you on
10:52 AM skunkworks: I am running mostly 2.7.11
10:52 AM IchGucksLive: isent it also like in the video i made
10:53 AM IchGucksLive: ok im off
11:30 AM slipalong: Guy's quick question about touch off
11:31 AM slipalong: I have 5 tools needed for a job and I have touched them on so the Z offsets are correct in the tool table
11:32 AM slipalong: If I load stock in a different fixture I dont need to do tool touch-off again on all the tools do I
11:32 AM Repollo: Hi all
11:33 AM jthornton: no, you need to just touch off to material one tool
11:33 AM Tom_L: slipalong, no
11:33 AM slipalong: so say T1 M6
11:33 AM Tom_L: just what jt said :)
11:33 AM slipalong: touch this off to the top of the stock and press go
11:33 AM Tom_L: just make sure the tool loaded is the one you touch off with
11:34 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, most of the stuff is cut out now
11:34 AM slipalong: and it adjusts the position of all the tools based on that
11:35 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Axis_Mount_Plates.jpg
11:35 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/Mill_Steel/Z_Column_Standoff2.jpg
11:35 AM slipalong: cool thanks
11:35 AM jthornton: also it helps to do a sanity check with each tool by loading it with Tn M6 G43 then move to a known height and verify you did it right
11:35 AM jthornton: repeat with each tool to make sure your procedure is correct
11:36 AM Tom_L: i did have a question about manual mode too
11:36 AM Tom_L: when i start up and touch off the edges i do a G1 y -.1 F20 or such to move to the center of the wobbler
11:37 AM Tom_L: which mode do i need to be in to repeat that to the same spot?
11:37 AM Tom_L: if i do it again it will move to a different location
11:37 AM Tom_L: i think that has to do with G90 G91 doesn't it?
11:38 AM jthornton: that depends on exactly what you did as there are many things that can be called "touch off"
11:38 AM slipalong: Incremental or relative
11:38 AM Tom_L: for the material XY 0
11:39 AM Tom_L: sometimes i go the wrong dirction so i reverse the sign but it doesn't always do what i expect
11:39 AM jthornton: I just enter the offset for P1 G54 making sure you have the correct axis selected
11:40 AM Tom_L: so do i
11:40 AM Tom_L: but i use a wobbler which needs a -.1 back from where it says to stop
11:40 AM jthornton: are you using a vise or clamps?
11:41 AM Tom_L: vise usually
11:41 AM Tom_L: but both
11:42 AM jthornton: I touch off the front face of the rear jaw and forget about it, I put a 1/2 dowel in the chuck and position left or right edge of material against the dowel lock the vise down and set my x offset
11:43 AM Tom_L: yeah, i change setups alot so i can't just check the back edge and forget it
11:43 AM jthornton: how do you square up the material when clamping?
11:43 AM Tom_L: like that plate i squared up. it took everything the sherline had to fit that in the 'box'
11:44 AM Tom_L: i used 2 pins on the right side that i had just predrilled and reamed
11:44 AM Tom_L: and let it hang over the table and trimmed the back side
11:45 AM Tom_L: i've also got an issue with my pendant speed selector button
11:45 AM jthornton: so you have a reference edge on the right?
11:45 AM Tom_L: i get 'fast' and 'real slow' but the middle one quit working on me
11:45 AM Tom_L: yes
11:46 AM Tom_L: software looks ok on the pendant.. maybe a wire came loose
11:46 AM Tom_L: dunno
11:46 AM Tom_L: sure a bummer when you're trying to use it
11:48 AM Tom_L: and i didn't wanna stop to fix it last night
11:52 AM JT-Shop: I hate when stuff don't work right
12:11 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:11 PM IchGucksLive: snowing outside
12:24 PM HighInBC: nice
12:42 PM gloops: https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Raglan-Little-John-Lathe/263387374119? decent old lathe
01:08 PM phiplii: hum. are you allowed to undertake in the US?
01:08 PM phiplii: (pass someone in the slower lane)
01:09 PM phiplii: (in a car)
01:10 PM gloops: disgusting practice
01:11 PM gregcnc: we don't have slow lanes inthe US it's a free for all
01:11 PM gloops: last person who did it to me lost the front of his audi s-line
01:12 PM gloops: and i lost my no claims bonus
01:14 PM phiplii: gloops, where abouts are you?
01:14 PM gloops: im in the UK
01:14 PM phiplii: :)
01:14 PM phiplii: yeah - me too
01:14 PM gregcnc: when you buy a car here you get a share of the road proportional to the perceived value of the car
01:14 PM phiplii: Scariest thing I've had was a lorry decide to pull into my lane while I was passing it (in the fast lane)
01:15 PM gregcnc: and don't encraoch on other's who own a bigger share than you
01:15 PM phiplii: that explains why everyone likes big vehicles in the states :)
01:16 PM gloops: well someone was trying to undertake me just as i was moving over - in my blindspot, front of his car got stuck in my rear wheel arch - and the front of his car became detached lol
01:17 PM phiplii: thankfully I've not had a bump
01:17 PM phiplii: other than while not in my car (someone decided to park where I was)
01:18 PM gloops: the road is full of total nutters, i rarely drive over 65
01:18 PM phiplii: I took my car off the road to save money
01:19 PM phiplii: pays for christmas not running a car :)
01:19 PM gregcnc: where do you drive it if not on the road?
01:19 PM phiplii: don't any more - still have the car though
01:19 PM phiplii: sometimes drive for work
01:20 PM gloops: dont blame you
01:21 PM gloops: i wouldnt like to be a motorcyclist these days
01:21 PM phiplii: Yeah - shame. A bike would be great for me
01:22 PM phiplii: something small - faster than a pushbike
01:24 PM gloops: suppose it depends on the route, some roads arent so bad, others are terrible
01:25 PM phiplii: it is faster to cycle for work around here
01:25 PM phiplii: unless you go in at a weird time
01:30 PM JT-Shop: hi phiplii
01:30 PM JT-Shop: http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens/nestbox/
01:32 PM phiplii: evening JT-Shop
01:32 PM phiplii: our youngest has started laying
01:32 PM phiplii: if I didn't say
01:34 PM JT-Shop: mine have not started yet... I'm thinking just any day
01:35 PM JT-Shop: mine will be 18 weeks wednesday
01:36 PM JT-Shop: they have been on supplemental light in the morning but I've since read that pullets will usually lay anyway in the winter
02:11 PM Nick-Shop_ is now known as Nick-Shop
03:04 PM gloops: it is claimed by some that the T34 was the best tank of WW2
03:04 PM pfred1: the tiger royale was the best
03:05 PM pfred1: was just too expensive to produce in numbers
03:06 PM gloops: well, thats the thing, what makes the best machine?
03:06 PM gloops: the tiger was an awesome tank, but it lost
03:06 PM pfred1: a Tiger 2 ws just about unstoppable
03:06 PM gloops: it took 12 shermans on average to destroy 1 tiger i think
03:07 PM pfred1: the only reason it lost is because the krauts couldn't fuel it
03:07 PM pfred1: yuo can't fault the vehicle for that though
03:07 PM gloops: the germans couldnt stop an assault by equal numbers of t34s at kursk
03:08 PM gloops: those tiger shells just bounced off the t34 turret
03:08 PM pfred1: what the Germans couldn't do was defeat prepared defensive positions 5 mles in depth
03:08 PM pfred1: well the northern pincer did but the southern one didn't
03:09 PM pfred1: realize that half of the total deaths in the war were Russians
03:09 PM pfred1: every other person that died due to WW2 was Russian
03:09 PM gloops: that could have been stalins tactics, he allowed the germans to advance
03:12 PM gloops: its a bit like evolution, in fact its exactly the same
03:12 PM pfred1: the Germans lost in Kursk because 1 the Allies knew bout it and 2 the attack was delayed until the new Panthers were ready
03:12 PM gloops: what might seem an unlikely 'fittest' candidate, wins
03:12 PM pfred1: though they still weren't ready
03:12 PM Contract_Pilot: Some small things todo today befor i get to play
03:13 PM pfred1: half the Panters were lost due to transmission problems
03:13 PM gloops: yes they were rushed out without proper trials
03:13 PM pfred1: well time was of the essence
03:13 PM gloops: however that was a german mistake
03:13 PM gloops: it cost them the war
03:14 PM pfred1: no it didn't
03:14 PM gloops: the core of the german armour was lost
03:14 PM pfred1: invading russia in the first place cost them the war
03:14 PM gloops: when Britain was still alive, certainly
03:14 PM pfred1: or failing to knock England out
03:15 PM cpresser: you guys should play more axis and allies
03:15 PM pfred1: Hitler was too soft on England
03:15 PM gloops: well ive been watching some old tank battles for inspiration
03:15 PM gloops: too soft, or too scared
03:16 PM gloops: his beloved luftwaffe took a hammering
03:16 PM gloops: his invasion force was never able to board the landing vessels
03:16 PM gloops: bombed out
03:16 PM pfred1: the Germans never embraced strategic bombing like they should have
03:16 PM gloops: they never had an adequate bomber
03:17 PM pfred1: it was simply too inhumane for them
03:17 PM pfred1: but the Allies had no reservations when it ame to burning hundreds of thousands alive
03:17 PM gloops: well we tried to hit the factories
03:18 PM gloops: remember the words of bomber harris 'hitler sowed the wind, he will reap the whirlwind'
03:18 PM cpresser: dresden? the whole city a factory?
03:18 PM gloops: he started it
03:19 PM cpresser: imho germans didn't kill that much civilians at the time was because they did not have the tools for it
03:19 PM gloops: he wanted war, he got war!
03:20 PM pfred1: gloops actually he didn't start it
03:21 PM pfred1: England declared war on Germany
03:21 PM gloops: england told hitler that if he invaded poland a state of war would exist between england and germany
03:21 PM gloops: he invaded
03:22 PM pfred1: so Poland is part of the UK?
03:22 PM gloops: pfred are you saying it was acceptable to invade poland?
03:22 PM gloops: hitler was already in dire breach of the versailles treaty
03:22 PM pfred1: Poland was taken from the AstroHungarian Empire at the end of WW1
03:23 PM pfred1: so yeah it was Germanic land
03:23 PM gloops: a small part of it, however germany lost that war
03:23 PM pfred1: so they shoud lose their land because of it?
03:24 PM gloops: yes when you lose a war you lose your land quite often
03:24 PM gloops: just as when german aggression deprived others of their land
03:24 PM pfred1: we found out doing that is a mistake
03:24 PM pfred1: which is why we ended WW2 much differently
03:25 PM gloops: the mistake was in not taking all the land
03:25 PM pfred1: it worked too didn't it?
03:25 PM gloops: i think that remains to be seen pfred
03:25 PM pfred1: we've seen it
03:25 PM pfred1: everyone alive then is dead now
03:26 PM gloops: its been quiet maybe, for a while
03:26 PM pfred1: no hard feelings
03:26 PM roycroft: the uk and france signed an agreement with poland in 1939 guaranteeing they would declare war on germany were germany to invade poland
03:26 PM gloops: for a bit too long maybe, its about due to kick off again anytime
03:26 PM roycroft: germany was well aware of this agreement, and invaded poland anyway
03:27 PM roycroft: the uk and france, bound by their agreement, then declared war on germany
03:27 PM pfred1: so did the Soviet Union
03:27 PM roycroft: that in no way can be convoluted to claim that the uk started the war
03:27 PM pfred1: why didn't England and France declare war against the USSR?
03:27 PM roycroft: germany started it by invading poland
03:27 PM gloops: france and russia usually have an agreement to contain german aggression
03:27 PM roycroft: because there was no agreement to do so
03:27 PM gloops: until the post war era that is
03:30 PM roycroft: at any rate, the declaration of war was a formality
03:30 PM pfred1: Czar Russia was long gone at that point
03:30 PM roycroft: the uk nor france initiated agressive action against germany after declaring war
03:31 PM gloops: amazingly, after ww1 france did not stand down its army, it kept 500 divisions in uniform, until around 1937!
03:32 PM gloops: when the germans arrived it couldnt mount a defence
03:32 PM roycroft: i think i've sorted out my acrylic problem
03:33 PM roycroft: it has nothing to do with loc-tite
03:33 PM roycroft: it has to do with the countersunk holes
03:33 PM gloops: what was the problem?
03:34 PM roycroft: the countersink i used was 90 degrees
03:34 PM roycroft: not 82 degrees
03:34 PM roycroft: so even "just snugging up" a screw put a lot of pressure on a single thin ring in the countersunk hole
03:34 PM roycroft: i tested with loc-tite alone and nothing craked
03:34 PM roycroft: cracked
03:35 PM roycroft: i drilled four countersunk holes and they did not crack
03:35 PM roycroft: i put a screw in one of them and snugged it up on a nut lightly and it cracked after a few minutes
03:35 PM roycroft: these are 6-32 screws
03:35 PM roycroft: and i really did use a light touch
03:36 PM roycroft: i think it's a combination of wrong angle and crappy acrylic
03:37 PM roycroft: the oak base looks a lot nicer anyway :)
03:37 PM roycroft: so using crappy acrylic and the wrong countersink ended up being a feature
03:45 PM gloops: acrylic does crack easy though
03:52 PM jym: You shouldn't "secure" fasten acryic, Use a gromet or let it "float".
03:53 PM roycroft: i was trying not to put any pressure on the acrylic
03:53 PM roycroft: i needed flush fasteners on the base of this
03:53 PM roycroft: so i drilled and countersunk holes
03:53 PM roycroft: and put loc-tite on the fasteners
03:54 PM roycroft: the idea being that i would tighten them just enough so the standoffs were in contact with the acrylic
03:54 PM jym: Even alcohol can fracture (not the right word) acrylic
03:54 PM roycroft: but it apears that even that was too much pressure
03:54 PM pfred1: craze
03:54 PM jym: pfred1: thank you
03:54 PM roycroft: craze, yes
03:54 PM pfred1: cra cra
03:55 PM gloops: there re 2 kinds though, cast and rolled or something
03:55 PM roycroft: and i was reading last night that if you clean acrylic with any hydrocarbon-based cleaner it can craze after as long a several months
03:55 PM jym: MAybe craxing and the pressure fro the screw did it
03:55 PM roycroft: cast and extruded
03:55 PM gloops: one is stronger
03:55 PM roycroft: cast is generally stronger
03:55 PM pfred1: polycarbonate is better
03:55 PM roycroft: polycarbonate is different
03:55 PM roycroft: that's not to say it's better
03:56 PM jym: Ther eis cast and extruded acrylic, I ONLY use cast
03:56 PM roycroft: i chose acrylic for this project because acrylic is more scratch-resistant than polycarbonate
03:56 PM pfred1: I thought acryic scratched more?
03:56 PM roycroft: and this is a collet stand, which is going to sit in a drawer in a machinery cabinet, and get jostled
03:56 PM roycroft: no
03:56 PM roycroft: acrylic breaks a lot more easily
03:57 PM roycroft: but it is more resistant to scratching than polycarbonate
03:57 PM roycroft: it's also more transparent than polycarbonate
03:57 PM pfred1: I made a collet holder out of a block of HDPE
03:57 PM roycroft: but both polycarbonate and acrylic are more transparent than glass
03:57 PM pfred1: HDPE is tugh stuff
03:57 PM pfred1: tough
03:57 PM roycroft: well the top of this is now acrylic, and the bottom is red oak
03:57 PM roycroft: and that's fine
03:58 PM roycroft: better than both parts being acrylic
03:58 PM pfred1: HDPE is not transparent though
03:58 PM roycroft: no
03:58 PM roycroft: although transparency is not required for this
03:58 PM roycroft: it's a collet holder
03:58 PM pfred1: yuo should get into cooking HDPE
03:58 PM roycroft: but i had some acrylic and thought it give it a nice look
03:59 PM Deejay: gn8
03:59 PM pfred1: uunless you can get cut offs from a sign maker
03:59 PM pfred1: they only get 2 cents a pound for HDPE scrap
03:59 PM pfred1: so the stuff ain't evne worth loading at that price
04:18 PM Rab: I've seen just about everything, including loctite and oil-based flood coolants, promote stress cracking in polycarbonate. Now I specify water as the only coolant for PC operations.
04:23 PM jym: Rab: MEK makes GREAT acrylic coolant )
04:23 PM roycroft: i've read anecdotes that even soapy water used as a lubricant can cause crazing in acrylic
04:24 PM jym: nah, I use it all the time
04:24 PM Rab: jym, great news, furiously filling reservoir with premium MEK.
04:24 PM jym: but not as a lube, but to preven tthe vaporization from reforming.
04:25 PM jym: Rab: Heh, you must NOT be in California, as MEK is a banned substance <rolls eyes>
04:26 PM dioz: how do i know what i can put in a cylinder?
04:26 PM dioz: aluminium cylinder
04:26 PM MrHindsight: jym: is mere possession banned or can you keep it sealed and work with it?
04:26 PM dioz: i had CO2 in it at one point
04:26 PM roycroft: um, put something in the cylinder, and if it goes in the cylinder you know that you can put it there?
04:26 PM dioz: can i put argon in it?
04:27 PM Rab: jym, I'm in Texas, we use it to clean the storm drains.
04:27 PM jym: MrHindsight: Ability to purchase in anything larger than 2 to 4 ounces
04:27 PM jym: Rab: haha
04:27 PM MrHindsight: wow
04:28 PM jym: MrHindsight: I had to smuggle it across the border (from Nevada)
04:28 PM roycroft: most industrial chemicals that are "banned" in california are available under license for industrial use but sale is restricted for consumers
04:28 PM Rab: Well, maybe not. But it is freely available at Home Depot.
04:28 PM MrHindsight: jym: sounds like a show on the Howto network
04:28 PM roycroft: it's still available for consumer sale here in oregon
04:28 PM jym: Rab: Not in Calif
04:29 PM roycroft: and we're fairly restrictive on such things
04:29 PM roycroft: not as much as california, of course
04:29 PM roycroft: but certainly moreso than, say, alabama
04:29 PM jym: Kormifornia
04:29 PM MrHindsight: is acetone exempt?
04:30 PM roycroft: oregon focuses more on environmental hazards than health hazards when putting restrictions on products
04:30 PM Rab: dioz, there should be a rating on the cylinder you can use to see what's approved. I do believe there's a difference between CO2 and other cylinders, might just be that CO2 rating isn't as stringent.
04:31 PM roycroft: california, i think, is equally concerned about both
04:31 PM MrHindsight: can you buy cans of spray paint at the stores in CA?
04:31 PM Rab: If the cylinder is unmarked, I'm not sure I would put anything in it.
04:33 PM roycroft: i'm sure i wouldn't put anything in it under pressure if it's not marked
04:34 PM pfred1: marked how?
04:34 PM roycroft: a gas cylinder is stamped with a tare weight and an expiration date
04:34 PM pfred1: ah stamped
04:35 PM roycroft: if it's expired it needs to be retested before it can be filled, and a new expiration date stamped on it
04:35 PM pfred1: I need to restamp my tank here
04:35 PM Rab: https://trainex.org/osc2012/uploads/516/40_Sec%205%20-%20Cylinder%20Identification%202.pdf
04:36 PM Rab: (Seems like a good resource, but might be US-centric)
04:39 PM pfred1: bad link
04:39 PM Rab: https://www.worksonmymachine.pro/
04:40 PM dioz: how long does a tank of argon last?
04:40 PM pfred1: GnuTLS: A TLS packet with unexpected length was received.
04:43 PM roycroft: about 42 seconds when tig welding :)
04:43 PM pfred1: I have a 330 cuft argon cylinder
04:43 PM pfred1: one size up from the 244
04:44 PM _methods: they always last until the most inconvenient moment to have to refill
04:45 PM roycroft: the real answer is that it lasts until five minutes after it's too late to go swap it out at the welding gas shop on a friday afternoon
04:45 PM pfred1: that's why I stick weld
04:45 PM _methods: that would also be a correct answer
04:50 PM pfred1: JB Weld-It
05:17 PM Contract_Pilot: need to find a decent source on a mechanical switch like this.. http://www.microprecision.ch/images/produits/switch/MP600%20M8%20bille1.PNG
05:20 PM Tom_shop: https://www.wolfautomation.com/index.php/catalog/product/view/id/13218/s/limit-switch-5-36-vdc-cylindrical-threaded/?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIvYLntJeS2AIVB6rsCh3bgg5dEAQYAyABEgL5cfD_BwE
05:20 PM Tom_shop: and just like that one appears
05:20 PM Tom_shop: holy crap that's expensive
05:27 PM pfred1: no one grows up dreaming about being a switch maker
05:34 PM Contract_Pilot: wow...
05:34 PM Contract_Pilot: nope
05:34 PM Contract_Pilot: Prox switch is only 30.00
05:45 PM MrHindsight: Tom_shop: 1um accuracy
05:46 PM Contract_Pilot: Already have a PNP NC in the x Axis home but new board requires NPN
05:46 PM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/F869B4A6-E7B5-43C3-A0F4-76A941505CA7-e1513226951917-768x1024.jpeg
05:47 PM MrHindsight: Tom_shop: that's like 200x times more accurate than most cnc routers
05:58 PM pfred1: Contract_Pilot transistors?
05:58 PM Contract_Pilot: Making it clean is the goal so hiding the limit switches is imparative
06:03 PM Contract_Pilot: Home limits can come after surg recovery tonights Goal is to get the VFD Wired need to get the Emmerson Commander pin and go to the Hitachai WJ200
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07:16 PM clipperch580:
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07:16 PM clipperch580: ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETvqgrei: andypugh ferdna ve7it MarcelineVQ Tom_shop Loetmichel xrayjim BeachBumPete `Wolf E pfred1 mtpocketscnc malcom2073 dioz ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄�
07:16 PM clipperch580: ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄ https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=--jYqzJErTI LRH IS LIVE NOW!! CALL 415-349-5666 #LRH EFNETtudxwm: Tom_shop malcom2073 mtpocketscnc dioz Loetmichel ve7it xrayjim pfred1 MarcelineVQ andypugh `Wolf ferdna E BeachBumPete ▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄▄�
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07:16 PM Loetmichel: man, that is some persistent asshole bot
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07:16 PM clipperch580:
07:16 PM MrHindsight: seb_kuzminsky: ffffllllll0000000000dddddddd
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07:17 PM clipperch580:
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07:17 PM clipperch580:
07:17 PM XXCoder: talking in freenode
07:17 PM krabador: wei clipperch580 , your ex boyfriend is nigger?
07:17 PM krabador: come on, do outingù!
07:17 PM Loetmichel: thanks, ilbelkyr
07:17 PM krabador: *outing
07:17 PM PlasmaStar: What a smart thing to say krabador :)
07:18 PM XXCoder: boom kline hammer
07:18 PM XXCoder: yay
07:18 PM roycroft: "good bye" comes to mind
07:18 PM krabador: z_ch00_334 send CTCP
07:18 PM krabador: that's the annoying thing
07:18 PM roycroft: to the both of you
07:18 PM sync: well, the LRH people are on it again today
07:18 PM Loetmichel: whatever that is
07:18 PM sync: unlikely that they are not going to come back
07:18 PM sync: l0de radio hour
07:18 PM andypugh: Looks like time to give up for the night.
07:18 PM roycroft: you mean the 2-year-olds?
07:19 PM roycroft: fortunately we have /ignore :)
07:19 PM XXCoder: some bots send pms constantly
07:19 PM Loetmichel: nice way to get instabanned
07:19 PM sync: join #lrh on efnet for the fun
07:19 PM Loetmichel: for the bot
07:19 PM MrHindsight: good thing I'll never get PMS
07:19 PM XXCoder: sync: you a member?
07:19 PM roycroft: shunning is usually pretty effective
07:20 PM sync: they sometimes have good trolling in there
07:20 PM XXCoder: btw if you get pm spam, just change nick
07:20 PM roycroft: or use /ignore
07:20 PM sync: XXCoder: no, but I sometimes listen to their show
07:20 PM XXCoder: what is LRH anyway
07:20 PM sync: l0de radio hour
07:20 PM XXCoder: lie-republician house?
07:21 PM sync: basically it is a cesspool of trolls and a call in number with l0de as the host
07:21 PM roycroft: those people are not republicans
07:21 PM roycroft: they're just idiots
07:21 PM roycroft: this is not political - it's puerile
07:21 PM MrHindsight: got klined
07:21 PM roycroft: great
07:21 PM roycroft: i can remove the /ignores now :)
07:21 PM sync: they usually post the number on craigslist to get people to call the show and l0de tries to set them up that some craigslisters meet up and stuff happens
07:21 PM malcom2073: They got a ton of IPs, kines don't stop them
07:22 PM XXCoder: roycroft: yeah was largely kidding
07:22 PM sync: especially in places with video cameras or boots on ground to take video
07:22 PM Loetmichel: sync: you are not better than those idiots then.
07:22 PM sync: am I?
07:22 PM roycroft: huh?
07:23 PM krabador: buahahahahah
07:23 PM Loetmichel: ah, sorry, i read "I opost the number"
07:23 PM krabador: i'm invited on #krabadorisanigger10
07:23 PM krabador: from z_ch00_334 (card.freenode.net)
07:23 PM sync: well, it seems like they have some internal issues
07:23 PM XXCoder: like bring racist?
07:23 PM sync: somebody is spamming tor CP sites
07:23 PM sync: and they are trying to ddos him off the web
07:24 PM roycroft: i don't even think they're racist necessarily, xxcoder
07:24 PM sync: they make it appear like they are, but in reality they do it for the trolling potential
07:24 PM roycroft: more like little children who can get away with saying naughty words because they think mommy is not listening
07:24 PM * roycroft turns his attention back to autocad
07:24 PM enleth: I sure hope they piss off someone with a bigger botnet once again
07:24 PM XXCoder: not always
07:24 PM Loetmichel: roycroft: that sounds about right
07:25 PM enleth: they managed to do that last year
07:25 PM enleth: it was quite funny indeed
07:25 PM sync: who? marco?
07:26 PM sync: well, it kinda seems like the war started again :D
07:26 PM roycroft: polo?
07:26 PM sync: nah, marco the guy that spams tor cp links
07:26 PM roycroft: i'm so glad i don't operate an irc server any more
07:26 PM krabador: do you know marco the troll?
07:27 PM krabador: here too?
07:27 PM roycroft: i can ignore most of the crap
07:28 PM ziper: i wonder why i wasnt in the spam list in this channel but i was in other channels
07:28 PM malcom2073: ziper: Randomness is random?
07:29 PM sync: probably pro codes
07:29 PM enleth: no idea who that was who retaliated back then but word was, they threw a couple hundred gigabits at the originating addresses just to get them to stop fast
07:29 PM krabador: do you've invites in channel , from z_ch00_334 ?
07:29 PM XXCoder: randomness yeah. never got any dings thankfully
07:29 PM roycroft: there is arguably no such thing as true randomness
07:29 PM enleth: someone must've got the message too, they stopped spawning new sources
07:29 PM roycroft: only behaviors that have not been sufficiently analysed
07:30 PM sync: well, I guess someone is pretty motivated as lrh is on tonight
07:30 PM XXCoder: or maybe just cant get pecker up without spamming enough so can pleasure himself
07:30 PM roycroft: i still don't really understand what lrh is, but i'm not interested enough to want to understand
07:30 PM roycroft: when i was younger i was curious about everything
07:31 PM roycroft: now i'm old and my brain is filling up
07:31 PM roycroft: and i've become more selective with my curiosity
07:35 PM krabador: they're back on #kodi,#kodi-linux,#mpd
07:35 PM krabador: be reay.
07:35 PM krabador: *ready
07:36 PM XXCoder: krabador: they go to random channels
07:37 PM XXCoder: im in #freenode and people talk about bunch of channels and different nicks
07:37 PM krabador: yes
07:37 PM krabador: i'm there too
07:38 PM krabador: annoying thing is ctcp
07:38 PM krabador: for the rest they can spam what they want. it's possible to ignore
07:39 PM Contract_Pilot: may not be able to use my WJ200
07:39 PM XXCoder: heh hope they enjoy cptp version I have :P
07:39 PM XXCoder: ctcp
07:42 PM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/TL-BOB/
07:42 PM Contract_Pilot: ahhhh was ment for pm
07:43 PM XXCoder: I like your porn collection
08:13 PM Contract_Pilot: http://www.stevenrhine.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/12/Tormach-VFD-Connections-Emmerson-846x1024.jpg
08:17 PM MarcelineVQ: word to the wise, you can block ctcp related requests in any good irc client
08:18 PM XXCoder: or just change nick
08:19 PM Contract_Pilot: they cut my bacon in the morning so i will be down for min 1 maybe 2 weeks
08:20 PM Contract_Pilot: Sucks just when i start making progress again i get knocked down.
08:20 PM Contract_Pilot: But be nice to be able to push pull again with out hitting my knee's
08:21 PM Contract_Pilot: And Lift...
08:21 PM Contract_Pilot: Darn Genetics.
08:33 PM Contract_Pilot: ok off to lowes...
11:58 PM Contract_Pilot: Well not gonna get crap done... tonight