#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 23 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:02 AM XXCoder: yeah I listed rooms because not too sure what f9nal lengths would be
12:05 AM Valen: ok I'll say its 30 meters, it's pretty much not going to matter what cable you use
12:05 AM Valen: If you are feeling flush go the 6A it'll get you to 10gb without too much extra expense
12:05 AM Valen: it's halved in price since last I looked
12:05 AM Valen: Unless it's an industrial environment and you are going to do all the sheilding right don't worry too much about it
12:05 AM Valen: Do worry about steering the cable away from noise sources like fluro balasts and running parallel to power lines
12:05 AM XXCoder: yeah one of worse offenders os forsecent light - yeah exactly
12:07 AM XXCoder: considering making closet upstairs network center
12:07 AM Valen: So when yo want to mess around with your desktop and a Rpi or whatever you just plug both into the wall
12:07 AM MarcelineVQ: ran some 5e up through the ventilation recently, that's a heck of a lot less work than getting through walls :X
12:07 AM XXCoder: MarcelineVQ: not an op0tion here heh
12:07 AM XXCoder: no ventilation at all
12:09 AM MarcelineVQ: oh my god, ordering from that website is half the price of local and it ships free..
12:10 AM MarcelineVQ: Now I wish I needed 300m of cable
12:11 AM XXCoder: I had cat5 box
12:11 AM XXCoder: but it was smaller 250ft one and I used it all over the decade since then
12:12 AM MarcelineVQ: product to product, this site is 43% cheaper than buying at a local supply store, and it ships free. amazing
12:13 AM XXCoder: https://www.amazon.com/Infinity-Cable-650MHz-Screened-Copper/dp/B01LXV4NAN/
12:15 AM XXCoder: that site is cheaper than amazon
12:23 AM MarcelineVQ: wish they sold wire instead of just cables so I could buy from them
12:23 AM XXCoder: you cant make cables?
12:23 AM MarcelineVQ: I need thicker wires than this cabling has for upcoming projects
12:25 AM XXCoder: ahh
12:25 AM XXCoder: cnc machine?
12:25 AM MarcelineVQ: yes and vehicle wiring
12:26 AM XXCoder: theres special wires rated for million bends
12:26 AM XXCoder: probably overkill
12:35 AM PlasmaboyBob: Just joined this channel, looking for help with questions about using Linuxcnc through an Ethercut box using an UBOB III breakout box. Is this possible to do? Are any special drivers needed to do this?
12:40 AM XXCoder: hey
12:40 AM PlasmaboyBob: hi
12:40 AM XXCoder: breakout box means you can definitely configure pins and such, buyt dunno on ethercut as I dont know what it is
12:42 AM PlasmaboyBob: I have a box from candcnc (mistake I think), it connects through a rs485 usb hub and the ethernet port of the computer. So, it uses ethernet to controll the box. Just trying to figure out the best way to use Linuxcnc with this hardware, IF POSSIBLE?
12:43 AM XXCoder: right now is quietest time usually
12:43 AM XXCoder: someone will evenually answer :)
12:44 AM PlasmaboyBob: yeah, I'm on the other side of the world :( also, it's not usb hub, I meant it's a ethernet hub with usb control input.
12:45 AM XXCoder: linuxcnc is primarily parallel port
12:48 AM gregcnc: i had to look up ethercut, but google turned up references to linuxcnc being used
12:48 AM hazzy: Some of the MESA cards use Ethernet, so LCNC can definitely do that, the question is, are there suitable drivers for your breakout board.
12:50 AM PlasmaboyBob: hmmm, now I'm not sure if I should look at MESA with ethernet or just a regular parallel breakout
12:52 AM hazzy: I have heard good things of the MESA Ethernet cards, but they are rather new so there is not as much info available on them
12:53 AM PlasmaboyBob: LCNC imports MACH3 configs, do you know/think/believe that would work if switching to the Mesa enet boards?? I'm very new to all this and still a little confused
12:53 AM hazzy: I think you will always get the best performance from a PCI based MESA card though, and the ease of set up is hard to beat
12:54 AM hazzy: Yes, converting your config should not be a problem at all
12:54 AM hazzy: Regardless of what interface card you use
12:55 AM PlasmaboyBob: I'm leaning very hard towards the mesa cards, I really have to figure out how this crazy hardware interfaces, I'm trying to use as much as we already have.
12:56 AM PlasmaboyBob: ok, now I'm in a rainstorm, guess I'm not leaving the shop for awhile. :(
12:56 AM hazzy: heh I hate when that happens :)
12:57 AM hazzy: I would highly recommend the MESA cards, very easy to set up and extremely versatile
12:58 AM PlasmaboyBob: oh well, the good news is that it is almost always warm here, tired of that crazy cold. Yes, I'm going to research the MESA hardware some more and try to contact them with some of these questions.
12:59 AM XXCoder: PlasmaboyBob: I remember this old joke... basically guy was SICK of snow. so he attached the snow plow on his truck and started driving south
12:59 AM gregcnc: from what I see online candcnc have their own linuxcnc install called commandcnc
12:59 AM XXCoder: evenually someone asked "what is that thing on your truck" he moved to that townm
12:59 AM hazzy: lol
01:00 AM hazzy: I can't keep my eyes open any longer, gn8 fellows
01:00 AM MarcelineVQ: nite
01:00 AM PlasmaboyBob: HAHAHAHA, ok, so, thanks for replying, I really wasn't sure if anyone was here. I do know that candcnc has a system, I'm trying to stay away from that. gnite, take care
01:03 AM PlasmaboyBob: the cost, the software, the NEED to buy THEIR machine, and we already have two bad hubs from them, I'm not excited about staying with them.
01:05 AM gregcnc: how much do they want for their software?
01:06 AM PlasmaboyBob: You can't buy their software, it comes with their CommandCNC product, a small linux box with their own stuff.
01:06 AM PlasmaboyBob: and of course all the add-ons will cost when you want them
01:07 AM gregcnc: then you keep the drives and replace the interface. mesa is popular and owrks well
01:09 AM PlasmaboyBob: That's what I think we will do, just want to be sure how many things I will need to change. We are doing plasma so we need a THC controller, I don't think we can use the one from candcnc. :(
01:10 AM PlasmaboyBob: We have 2 RS485 hubs from them and both have problems, one burned up, smoke and all, the other has port and light issues, not happy with these.
01:12 AM XXCoder: can always strip orginial controller and completely replace it
01:16 AM PlasmaboyBob: Yeah, it's frustrating but we are going to make some changes. I'm VERY unhappy with the older parallel port system, it uses Mach3, but ONLY on Windows 32 bit, like XP, it fails on this i5 Win 7 machine. That's why I'm pushing hard to go over to Linux
01:17 AM XXCoder: anything that mach3 can run linuxcnc can
01:17 AM PlasmaboyBob: I can't believe they have promoted that software for so long in the modern Windows world, you have to upgrade to the newer hardware to use newer os
01:17 AM XXCoder: should be anyway
01:18 AM PlasmaboyBob: yeah, that is what I'm hearing and hoping :) I MUCH prefer Linux
01:18 AM PlasmaboyBob: I guess it's no surprise that they also have swiched to Linux. Of course, getting more money doesn't hurt their bottom line
01:22 AM PlasmaboyBob: Ok, so the little thunder sneeze has passed and I have other things to do besides sitting next to a dead plasma cutter. Thanks for your info, maybe I'll catch you on again soon. TC and (I'm guessing) a good night, it's almost 2PM here now. :)
01:22 AM XXCoder: later :)
01:47 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Germany
01:48 AM XXCoder: hey
01:48 AM IchGucksLive: ;-)
02:13 AM gloops: think i might need to add a parport, is that a simple thing to do?
02:14 AM IchGucksLive: adding to what device
02:14 AM IchGucksLive: or to HAL
02:14 AM gloops: a parport
02:15 AM gloops: run out of pins
02:15 AM IchGucksLive: i use the delock parport pci card to get 3 of them on one pc
02:16 AM gloops: ahh you have to add another port at the PC, you can jump another card from one card?
02:16 AM gloops: cant jump
02:17 AM gloops: i will have a look anyway, might not need it
02:19 AM IchGucksLive: gloops: https://www.reichelt.de/Controller-parallel-seriell/DELOCK-89016/3/index.html?ACTION=3&LA=2&ARTICLE=80131&GROUPID=6170&artnr=DELOCK+89016&SEARCH=%252A
02:20 AM gloops: that looks easy enough thanks
02:25 AM Deejay: moin
02:26 AM IchGucksLive: Guten Morgen Deejay
02:34 AM IchGucksLive: off till later :P
04:54 AM jthornton: morning
04:54 AM XXCoder: hey
04:57 AM MarcelineVQ: does anyone know if this thing is taking an H17 plug? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/2-2kw-cnc-milling-spindle-2-2kw-water-cooled-spindle-motor-80-2-2kw-ER20-220V/32247914323.html
05:04 AM MarcelineVQ: doesn't look like a GX16 because those seem to have round baseplates
05:12 AM MarcelineVQ: yeah okay should be H17, H20 has two keyways and they're in the base instead of the plug
05:13 AM jthornton: message the seller
05:13 AM MarcelineVQ: that's probably the best way to go. I'm always afraid that between my chinese and their english I'm not gonna get an accurate answer anyway
05:14 AM MarcelineVQ: when they sell kits then include the plug but don't seem to for standalone spindles :(
05:58 AM jthornton: hmm I left a python program running on the rpi and closed the terminal
06:03 AM malcom2073: jthornton: Normally that would close out the python program
06:03 AM malcom2073: fwiw, I like using screen to prevent that, and also allow console access to running processes
06:04 AM jthornton: so the output is still on because I didn't turn it off?
06:04 AM jthornton: screen?
06:04 AM Deejay: jep. screen
06:04 AM malcom2073: screen can be used to basically run terminals in the background
06:05 AM malcom2073: http://raspi.tv/2012/using-screen-with-raspberry-pi-to-avoid-leaving-ssh-sessions-open
06:05 AM jthornton: running the program in a terminal is for testing only, I want to run it at start up in the end
06:08 AM jthornton: pretty cool
06:35 AM Tom_L: jthornton, does nohup work when you close the terminal to keep the task running on a pi?
06:37 AM Tom_L: nohup python jt-logger.py & is what i use on the bot
06:40 AM jthornton: dunno never looked at nohup before
06:49 AM Tom_L: it should, it keeps the task running until you kill it
06:51 AM Tom_L: 48°F
06:51 AM jthornton: 52f
06:53 AM Tom_L: i do ps -aux to get the task number
06:53 AM Tom_L: then kill -9 tasknumber to kill it
06:54 AM jthornton: when I'm done programming it I think I want to start at bootup
06:58 AM MrBusiness3 is now known as MrBusiness
07:00 AM Tom_L: you can add it as a taks
07:00 AM Tom_L: task
07:00 AM Tom_L: i set mine to start if the pc lost power etc
07:01 AM Tom_L: iirc i used cron for that
07:01 AM Tom_L: but i'd have to look for sure
07:02 AM jthornton: I think I need to check for a LAN connection first maybe
07:03 AM jthornton: https://www.raspberrypi.org/forums/viewtopic.php?t=78734
07:03 AM Tom_itx: from terminal: crontab -e
07:04 AM Tom_itx: add:
07:04 AM Tom_itx: @reboot nohup python /home/tom-itx/src/logbot/jt-logger.py &
07:04 AM Tom_itx: so it will start up on system boot
07:04 AM Tom_itx: nohup will keep it connected
07:26 AM jthornton: looks like I need to add it to the /etc/network/if-up.d/upstart file after all_interfaces_up()
08:34 AM skunkworks: archivist, did you see john stevenson died?
08:37 AM archivist: skunkworks, no
08:37 AM archivist: when was that?
08:38 AM archivist: his wife died in the last few years from cancer
08:44 AM archivist: John Stevenson 20/01/1948 - 23/10/2017 very recent
08:45 AM skunkworks: yes - he had a bone marrow transplant then got some sort of infection
08:45 AM skunkworks: from what I heard
08:48 AM gregcnc: i know he was into model engineering, but besides that I don't know who he was
08:49 AM archivist: he was local to me, was mainly a jobbing machinist and helped out at one of the cnc tool suppliers
08:53 AM archivist: was mainly a mach fanboy except when it didnt work
09:07 AM alex_joni: heh
09:29 AM skunkworks: oh - he stopped being a mach fanboy. He was into ordering Chinese all in one controllers.
09:30 AM skunkworks: same with steve blackmore
09:34 AM hazzy: I am sorry to hear that. I used to read a lot of John's posts many years ago when I was young had more time. He was one of my favorite, always informative and funny.
09:34 AM hazzy: RIP Sir John , Earl of Bligeport & Sudspumpwater.
10:52 AM Frank_10: hi guys
10:53 AM Deejay: heya
10:54 AM Frank_10: troubleshooting time....
10:55 AM Frank_10: somehow the wires for the limit switches dont do its job
10:56 AM Frank_10: are there any special wires to connect limit switches on moving machines?
10:56 AM Frank_10: cables*
10:56 AM Deejay: hmm, there a special cables for cable chains
10:56 AM Deejay: *are
10:56 AM Frank_10: apparently the ones i installed no longer close contacts
10:57 AM Frank_10: i have flex for the servos and encoders
10:57 AM Frank_10: but not for the limits
10:57 AM IchGucksLive: hi all
10:57 AM Deejay: hi ich
10:57 AM IchGucksLive: ;-)
10:58 AM Frank_10: hello
10:58 AM IchGucksLive: Frank_10: what is the hardware
10:58 AM IchGucksLive: Inductive switches
10:58 AM IchGucksLive: mesa
10:59 AM Frank_10: the honeywell switches work fine akaik the cables are the problem
10:59 AM Frank_10: they are simple mic cables
10:59 AM Frank_10: with braided copper for the noise
10:59 AM IchGucksLive: how coud a vable block a signal
10:59 AM IchGucksLive: cable
11:00 AM Deejay: cable is br0ken
11:00 AM Frank_10: the limits close contact to give power
11:00 AM Frank_10: yep
11:00 AM IchGucksLive: i only use negativ logic so opener is better then closer
11:01 AM IchGucksLive: also you can lik all 9 switches together
11:01 AM IchGucksLive: port efficent
11:01 AM IchGucksLive: and you got the biggest safty
11:02 AM Frank_10: yes but if one breaks you dont realise that until your machine crashes
11:02 AM Deejay: yep
11:02 AM Deejay: worse
11:02 AM Frank_10: what boggles me is that the last time the machine was working i had 0 prpblems
11:02 AM IchGucksLive: http://www.ebay.de/itm/Induktiver-Naherungsschalter-Naherungssensor-LJ12A3-4-Z-BX-Three-Wire-Schlieser-/252314884820
11:02 AM Frank_10: now 2 cables broke
11:03 AM Frank_10: like wtf
11:03 AM IchGucksLive: is it a plasma
11:04 AM * Deejay hat a aluminum chip across the limit switch contact last time
11:04 AM IchGucksLive: that is real trouble
11:04 AM Deejay: the problem was to find ;) but easy to solve
11:04 AM IchGucksLive: i got 2times flex 110 broken on Y
11:05 AM IchGucksLive: sometimes it might only be unluck
11:05 AM IchGucksLive: Frank_10: is the bend radius correct for wirer chain
11:05 AM IchGucksLive: mic cables normaly do not break
11:05 AM Frank_10: the radius is not the best; but what i could get a hand of in my country
11:06 AM IchGucksLive: is thee also enoph space so cabled do not rubber of eatch other
11:07 AM IchGucksLive: if a thicker clabs the switch cable it might realy be broken on lots of uses
11:07 AM Frank_10: i think so; i used some zip tied to make sort of spacers so they run freely
11:08 AM IchGucksLive: i most go for 40x20mm better to use 60x30
11:08 AM IchGucksLive: it costs i know
11:11 AM IchGucksLive: the china nylons are also to blame sometimes
11:12 AM Frank_10: the mic cable was really tiny; i will try on a bigger diametrr cable
11:12 AM Frank_10: idk
11:14 AM Deejay: awg 16 ;)
11:17 AM Frank_10: yep
11:17 AM IchGucksLive: Deejay: was ist das 0.25
11:17 AM Deejay: eher so 1,3mm² ;)
11:17 AM IchGucksLive: das sollte aber nicht brechen
11:18 AM Deejay: chainflex ftw
11:19 AM IchGucksLive: i use 3x 0.5 thats awg 20
11:20 AM Deejay: somewhat big for limit switches
11:21 AM Deejay: should be more than enough i think
11:23 AM IchGucksLive: im off town major did knock i need to do somthing ;-)
11:36 AM Tom_itx: https://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/images/Jordan06.JPG
11:36 AM Tom_itx: cheers
11:37 AM cradek: squeeee
11:41 AM jym: Tom_itx: I'll take two please
11:41 AM Deejay: hehe
11:41 AM Tom_L: interesting paperweight for an engineer's desk
11:42 AM SpeedEvil: Is that actually working?
11:42 AM Tom_itx: https://www.craftsmanshipmuseum.com/Jordan.htm
11:42 AM SpeedEvil: There was a similar scale lathe made as a promo piece by one of the lathe vendors of that time that worked
11:42 AM Tom_itx: there's the story
11:43 AM SpeedEvil: :)
11:43 AM gregcnc: http://www.practicalmachinist.com/vb/antique-machinery-and-history/manson-miniature-monarch-looking-lathe-sale-234516/
11:46 AM SpeedEvil: http://i52.photobucket.com/albums/g8/lvanice/PM/ManSon2.jpg looks familar, yes
12:07 PM HighInBC: awww that is a cute lathe
12:07 PM HighInBC: you can make custom toothpicks
12:15 PM Crom: Figured out a place to get free preaged leather for making aviator caps. Free craigslist leather couches
12:16 PM SpeedEvil: Is the dog urine a feature or a bug?
12:16 PM MarcelineVQ: bum-aged material eh
12:16 PM jym: SpeedEvil: Mexico uses urine to cure leather
12:16 PM jym: SpeedEvil: (seriously)
12:16 PM MarcelineVQ: foolish, the proper way is to use brains
12:17 PM Crom: most of the good material is the back and sides, cusions and back of couch... meh...
12:24 PM Loetmichel: *huff*puff* maaaan am i out of stamina... only moved half a ton of junk in my garage (landlord ordered the mechanics to install new garage doors wenedsday so it has to be clean) and i can barely get enough breath. :-(
12:25 PM Deejay: you are getting old, man! ;)
12:26 PM Loetmichel: indeed
12:35 PM gregcnc: jym is that the same as corona?
12:38 PM jym: gregcnc: Funny thing... I was bartending in the USA once and someone FROM Mexico asked for a Corona. He said that he US and MX Coronas taste different. The MX Corona's are weaker.
12:44 PM Tom_L: nearly lunch:15 hmmm
01:18 PM JT-Shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0ekEJYJSl1E
01:19 PM narogon: does anybody know how the maximum velocities work in non trivial kinematics and linuxcnc 2.8
01:20 PM narogon: When i move only the X axis it limits the speed to the .ini AXIS_X maximum velocity
01:21 PM narogon: but when I move B axis that implies a X movement it doesn't limit X speed
01:22 PM cradek: yes, that's expected. you will need to set B's max velocity appropriately with X's limitations in mind
01:25 PM narogon: cradek this is the kinematics for my machine https://paste.ubuntu.com/25802943/ I modified it from one you sent me
01:26 PM narogon: and what happens if I want to make a rotary movement that don't imply x and z movements
01:26 PM narogon: It would be possible to get higher velocities
01:26 PM cradek: then only the rotary moves
01:27 PM narogon: but B maximum speed that I calculated for X max speed doesn't be correct for this case
01:27 PM cradek: unfortunately you need to set the vel and acc constraints for the worst case, even if some moves could actually go faster
01:28 PM miss0r: Have any of you guys seens hlaps1990 on youtube? he does some pretty cool projects in the shop ;) worth taking a look at
01:28 PM narogon: I supposed trajectory planner would calculate it for the more restrictive one
01:28 PM MarcelineVQ: miss0r: is that the guy working on the jewler's lathe atm?
01:28 PM miss0r: yeah
01:29 PM MarcelineVQ: his microlathe toolchanger vids are pretty neato
01:29 PM hazzy: They are!
01:29 PM miss0r: Yeah. I'm dreaming of doing one :)
01:29 PM cradek: narogon: the planner only knows what's in the ini file, not what your kinematics describe
01:30 PM narogon: thats right
01:30 PM narogon: thanks for open my mind in this case
01:53 PM gloops: not quite sure what was said about speed and non trivial kinematics there, but interested
03:21 PM gloops: one for archivist here
03:21 PM gloops: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Vintage-Hand-Operated-Cast-Iron-Industrial-Pillar-Drill-Milling-Stand-Workshop-/322840768968?
03:38 PM FinboySlick: gloops: That table is in very good condition.
03:52 PM nallar is now known as Ross
03:57 PM gloops: Finboy i would be bidding but too far for me
04:01 PM gloops: 19 5 metre lengths of 100mm square box section ÂŁ100...could build a fair table with that
04:02 PM gloops: at least ÂŁ1000 worth there
04:25 PM Deejay: gn8
04:28 PM miss0r: Bleh. What a waste. I can't make this new insert do a proper finish inside this thread i'm cutting :-/
04:29 PM miss0r: Thats what I get for being lazy. back to HSS
05:12 PM archivist: gloops, thats half of a machine, the top is missing
05:27 PM andypugh: I will certainly agree with “For too long now, a fear of building new hardware companies has gripped enterprises and entrepreneurs”
06:12 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5AQUodkQZbg M8 x 1.25 Spiral Flute Ring Tap in t-slot extrusions
06:13 PM CaptHindsight: using a drill chuck with a clutch
06:13 PM CaptHindsight: M8 is pretty beefy
06:15 PM hazzy: Capt: Using a drill chuck AS a clutch!
06:15 PM andypugh: I actually prefer to use a cordless srill than a tap wrench,
06:15 PM CaptHindsight: 1/4" - 20 https://youtu.be/_XLGCt5UQGM?t=2m22s
06:16 PM hazzy: cordless Impact drivers work well too
06:16 PM CaptHindsight: no problem is steel
06:16 PM CaptHindsight: M8 is pretty beefy
06:16 PM hazzy: Oh, or a butterfly wrench! heh
06:16 PM CaptHindsight: < 1/4" ~6mm it gets trickier
06:17 PM hazzy: M8 is pretty beefy, but that extrusion typ as oversized holes so makes it a bit easier I would think
06:17 PM CaptHindsight: need spiral taps
06:29 PM andypugh: I use the cordless with M3 straight-flute and it’s fine.
06:31 PM CaptHindsight: in aluminium or steel?
06:31 PM CaptHindsight: or swiss?
07:02 PM gloops: well, im really beginning to think ive been ripped off with these screws
07:03 PM Jymmm: you got double screwed?
07:03 PM gloops: 2 weeks - no shipment, is that normal for ordering from china?
07:03 PM skunkworks: I use the cnc to start the threads.. maybe 1/4 or so.. then finish them by hand. (we do a lot of 1 offs)
07:04 PM gloops: Jymmm its looking that way yes
07:04 PM skunkworks: gloops, it will just show up...
07:04 PM hazzy: gloops: give them a little longer
07:05 PM gloops: well, i think i might have been conned into losing my protection
07:05 PM Tom_itx: gloops, china is usually 4 weeks
07:06 PM gloops: there were some messages when i paid - offering to machine the ends of screws, but he asked for my email address to send invoice - so i did, and paid outside ebay
07:06 PM gloops: not been marked dispatched no tracking number
07:07 PM hazzy: I usually pay outside of ebay when ordering from china. I bet you will be fine
07:07 PM gloops: well hopefully - probably just wanting to avoid the fees
07:08 PM hazzy: Yes, which is fine IMO :)
07:08 PM hazzy: If you ordered it from a genuine Chinese they are very unlike to pull something on you intentionally
07:08 PM gloops: i did pay for the screws on ebay, just not the machining
07:09 PM hazzy: You paid for the machining separately? that is odd
07:09 PM hazzy: Which seller did you use?
07:10 PM gloops: yeah, he just said - these screws arent machine, we can arrange machining - it was cheap
07:10 PM gloops: the seller is cncmotorshop
07:10 PM gloops: the invoice was from Taishi Machinery&Equipment Co. ,Ltd
07:11 PM gloops: which doesnt seem to show as a company
07:11 PM hazzy: Ok, that is one of the main sellers
07:11 PM hazzy: hmm, a little concerning
07:12 PM gloops: concerning? haha
07:14 PM hazzy: maybe a chinglish translation of the company name though, so hopefully that is why it does not show up
07:15 PM gloops: there are 2 taishi companies but they have another word in front, cant see just Taishi
07:15 PM gloops: ahh well, we will see
08:24 PM Tom_itx: how can you tell if a SW part has a table associated with it and how do you access it?
08:25 PM Tom_itx: got one from grabcad i need to resize
08:31 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
08:58 PM Tom_L: no SW users awake here?
08:58 PM Tom_itx: https://grabcad.com/library/scr1605-ballscrew-resizable-1
08:59 PM Tom_L: that's the model. says it's resizable but i can't seem to figure it out
09:00 PM hazzy: Tom_L: I am awake but I can't remember how to edit a design table off the top of my head, and I am on Linux right now :(
09:00 PM Tom_L: i've done it in catia but not sw
09:00 PM hazzy: Are you sure it uses a design table and not equations?
09:01 PM Tom_L: the model says a design table
09:01 PM Tom_L: i posted the link to it
09:01 PM hazzy: Are there red infinity symbols in the sketches?
09:02 PM Tom_L: not that i see
09:03 PM hazzy: Ok, I am going into windoze. See you in a sek :D
09:05 PM Tom_L: ahh maybe i found something here
09:06 PM Tom_L: i may have found the table
09:06 PM Tom_L: it'll probably crash before it rebuilds though
09:07 PM hazzy: great!
09:07 PM Tom_L: yeah, it's pretty cool
09:07 PM Tom_L: just takes a bit to regenerate
09:07 PM Tom_L: i'll generate the sizes i need and export them to catia
09:08 PM Tom_L: generates from 100 to 1000 mm
09:09 PM hazzy: modeled threads are killers in SW, they look cool but really are not good idea
09:09 PM Tom_L: i know
09:09 PM Tom_L: it loads fast in catia though
09:10 PM hazzy: I need to try catia, I head great things about it
09:10 PM hazzy: hear*
09:10 PM Tom_L: i just had to get you to load windows before i figured it out :)
09:10 PM Tom_L: my kid has taken several catia classes
09:10 PM Tom_L: here
09:10 PM Tom_L: i took a couple
09:11 PM Tom_L: it's widely used around here
09:20 PM hazzy-mobile: I HATE windose! lol
09:21 PM Tom_L: this thing crashes on a large size screw model
09:21 PM Tom_L: but it gives me the shaft length anyway which is enough for this
09:22 PM hazzy-mobile: It installed updates and now no Internet access