#linuxcnc Logs
Oct 12 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:03 AM evilroot: 800x600mm
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: evilroot: how is it not efficient? Is it mounted in a wind tunnel?
01:52 AM CaptHindsight: or in a pool of water?
01:53 AM CaptHindsight: whats the temp tolerance in deg C over that area?
01:54 AM archivist: I get even heat in my kiln with a lump of aluminium, the temperature controller monitors the block, the heater element is below and all encased in insulation/fire brick
01:54 AM CaptHindsight: and over time
01:55 AM CaptHindsight: archivist: son't start troddin out personal experiences and such :)
01:55 AM archivist: hehe
01:55 AM CaptHindsight: next thing you'll know wel;l be using formulas and logic to solve this
01:55 AM archivist: nah, PID controller
01:56 AM CaptHindsight: I be usin the axe you a question approach
01:58 AM CaptHindsight: at least he's onto how adhesion and temperature related to thermoplastics
01:58 AM CaptHindsight: be intermingled
02:13 AM Deejay: moin
02:24 AM IchGucksLive: morning from germany
02:46 AM IchGucksLive: off 2 garden
03:31 AM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
04:28 AM Loetmichel: maaan, some people... just got a brazilian customer showing up with a mini-ITX + 19" touch TFT, some RFid/chipcard/barcodereaders, a small cash register printer and a selfmade PSU, all mounted on a plexiglas stand. "please measure that that vote machine prototype is Tempest-proof!"... $me is making brass shielding enclosures now for half a dozen PCBs... :-(
04:35 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: fancy
05:29 AM jthornton: morning
05:31 AM XXCoder: hey
05:31 AM XXCoder: ( made 750 parts today
05:31 AM XXCoder: insane
05:31 AM XXCoder: broke old record of 660 parts lol
05:31 AM jthornton: dang
05:32 AM XXCoder: yeah, I barely could hold drill up to bolt and unbolt at last 2 hours
05:33 AM jthornton: bolting parts to a fixture?
05:33 AM XXCoder: yeah
05:40 AM jthornton: what kind of drill do you use?
05:41 AM XXCoder: uhhh dunno but they do last a long time
05:41 AM XXCoder: one battery apparently finally died
05:42 AM XXCoder: today I used one so much I had to change batteries 4 times
05:43 AM jthornton: my Dewalt 20v is so much lighter than the old 14v drill it's not funny
05:43 AM jthornton: my Dewalt 20v impact driver is even lighter
05:43 AM XXCoder: I think its dewalt there actually.
05:43 AM XXCoder: yellow ones, one I sued was impact driver
05:45 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/DCF885BR-Cordless-Lithium-Ion-Certified-Refurbished/dp/B00XVC0BVM
05:46 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/DEWALT-Bare-Tool-DC820B-18-Volt-Cordless/dp/B002VWK5QO
05:47 AM XXCoder: looks similiar yeah
05:47 AM XXCoder: older model maybe
05:57 AM RyanS: any plasma cutter people here tonight ?
05:58 AM jthornton: it's morning here lol
05:59 AM jthornton: just ask the question...
06:00 AM RyanS: any time will do lol
06:02 AM RyanS: e-stop, many diy, well most seem to just have it wired to the motion controller, but not to the plasma unit
06:03 AM RyanS: bad design right?
06:04 AM jthornton: well if the estop kills the power to the outputs of the motion controller it's moot point
06:07 AM jthornton: typically what I do is kill power to outputs, drop out air if used and leave controller plc or what ever running with the estop... I build factory automation machines like assembly machines etc and yes I build a plasma cutter
06:07 AM RyanS: what if the controller fails? does that kill the plasma arc?
06:08 AM jthornton: if you kill the output power is doesn't matter what the controller does
06:10 AM RyanS: ok, so if you wire arc ok via the e-stop it kills the plasma?
06:10 AM jthornton: arc ok is a signal from the plasma
06:10 AM RyanS: i know
06:11 AM RyanS: or torch fire
06:12 AM jthornton: I don't really understand what your asking
06:17 AM jthornton: I need to find a new browser firefox should be named crashalot
06:18 AM RyanS: killing the outputs. I pressume the outputs (stepper drives, 'start plasma' on the cpc port, VFD etc) are literally wired via a safety relay?
06:21 AM jthornton: no, I just kill the 24v going to the outputs commons which kills all the outputs
06:27 AM RyanS: did my message get through ? i got disconnected
06:27 AM jthornton: there's the log
06:35 AM RyanS: http://www.pibot.com/forum/uploads/FileUpload/12/dbc987fc8addf6b5374128dc7d0c1d.png this is not adequate ? doesn't cut the power to the drivers?
06:38 AM jthornton: yea that way is relying on the breakout board functioning and is not the way to wire an estop, it's good to let LinuxCNC know it is in an estop condition but a second set of N/C contacts should break the V+ line
06:39 AM RyanS: https://www.schneider-electric.com/solutions/ww/en/rme/340295501/image/jpeg/thumb_solutions_1232_architecture_en_145530.jpg/315 is via the driver
06:46 AM jthornton: I wonder what that photo is trying to show because it makes no sense
06:47 AM RyanS: i think its a safety relay
06:51 AM RyanS: not that i understand why a standard relay couldn't be used
06:52 AM RyanS: compliance standards i'm guessing
06:52 AM jthornton: safety relays are special built to not fail and are used with light curtains, estops and other inputs like door switches
06:55 AM RyanS: so more stringent standards ,hence the $200+ for a basic saftey relay
06:56 AM jthornton: well there is a whole lot of things going on inside a safety relay that a normal relay does not have so yea more parts higher price
06:57 AM RyanS: which THC does your plasma use by the way?
06:57 AM jthornton: THCAD-10
06:59 AM RyanS: ah, I know someone from the plasmaspider forum using that
07:00 AM RyanS: its still a development feature of linuxcnc i believe?
07:01 AM jthornton: https://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=65&product_id=64
07:01 AM jthornton: I've been using it for years lol
07:02 AM jthornton: since EMC 6
07:02 AM jthornton: er 1.6
07:03 AM jthornton: hmm I'm thinking of the ubuntu version not the emc version 2.4 I think I started using the thcad card
07:03 AM RyanS: is that different to an external/standalone THC?
07:03 AM jthornton: yea ubuntu 6.06 I think dang it's been a long time
07:04 AM jthornton: yes, cost less and works better
07:05 AM RyanS: is it hard to set up for a noob like me? obviously with advice on forums
07:06 AM RyanS: the mechanical side doesn't concern me as much
07:08 AM jthornton: you just need to add the thc component to your config http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man9/thc.9.html
07:08 AM RyanS: using the 7I.. whatever motion controller?
07:09 AM jthornton: yea usually
07:09 AM jthornton: I used the parallel port for a while but soon switched to a 5i25 7i76 combo
07:10 AM jthornton: https://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=69&product_id=78
07:11 AM RyanS: sufficient? https://ark.intel.com/products/27233/Intel-Core-Duo-Processor-T2300-2M-Cache-1_66-GHz-667-MHz-FSB
07:13 AM RyanS: older one of these http://www.cdt.com.au/store/index.php?main_page=product_info&cPath=8&products_id=4
07:14 AM jthornton: is that something you have on hand?
07:14 AM RyanS: yep
07:14 AM RyanS: gathering dust
07:15 AM RyanS: 2gb ram
07:15 AM jthornton: plug a DVD drive in and boot from the LinuxCNC DVD and do a latency test
07:15 AM RyanS: hmmm, is there a usb version?
07:16 AM jthornton: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html#_write_the_image_to_a_bootable_device
07:17 AM RyanS: or i was thinking of switching to a 120gb ssd so it'd be a fresh install anyhow
07:20 AM RyanS: and you use the standard distro here? http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/getting-linuxcnc.html
07:20 AM RyanS: ubuntu for noobs?
07:23 AM jthornton: it's not ubuntu anymore due to some licensing nonsense it's debian now and no I use linux mint just a personal preference
07:26 AM RyanS: ok that confuses me, i thought linuxcnc IS the operating system, rather than a component on top of debian, or mint, or ubuntu
07:28 AM jthornton: no linuxcnc is a program like any other and needs an os to run
07:28 AM jthornton: it does require a real time kernel to function
07:30 AM RyanS: right, but if i don't like the idea of compiling source code, its only debian thats available ?
07:31 AM jthornton: yup
07:33 AM jthornton: well not really https://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/category&path=68
07:33 AM RyanS: compiling it complicated ? i tried to compile a windows program once--it made my head hurt
07:35 AM RyanS: <- Australia
07:35 AM jthornton: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/9-installing-linuxcnc/32193-complete-how-to-linux-mint-18-1-32-64-rtai-or-preempt-with-rip-install-or-deb
07:36 AM jthornton: I ship all the time to Australia
07:38 AM RyanS: is that your store?
07:39 AM jthornton: yes
07:39 AM RyanS: cool
07:39 AM jthornton: just remember that first class and priority both fly on the same plane lol
07:44 AM RyanS: similar features ? http://neuroncnc.com/
07:46 AM RyanS: is the ohmic sensor a seperate module to the thcad-10?
07:47 AM jthornton: time for me to head to the shower and start my day
07:47 AM RyanS: seeya
08:19 AM IchGucksLive: hi froim germany
08:19 AM IchGucksLive: RyanS: stil online
08:21 AM IchGucksLive: RyanS: scroll down here to see my plasma work ;-) http://www.schweden-feuer.de/feuersauelen.htm i got 4 plasmas homemade
08:22 AM IchGucksLive: i use the simple THCUD component with the eagle plasma thc on Hacked plasmatourches
08:22 AM IchGucksLive: im off later
09:16 AM JT-Shop: yea chickens are 8.1 weeks old today
09:25 AM SpeedEvil: woo
11:28 AM Loetmichel: hurrhurr... First brass enclosure for the mini-itx board done. Brasilian customer: "are you a magician? our people back at the factory would have taken a week for that... and a whole team of 4" ;) $me:"Thats normal MO here. Impossible will be done prompt, miracles take a bit longer."
11:51 AM IchGucksLive: hi
11:51 AM IchGucksLive: RyanS: are you here
12:27 PM ziper: what do you call the interchangable doohickers on a bore gauge
12:31 PM archivist: that depends on style and make of gauge but anvil is a common term
12:33 PM IchGucksLive: ziper: it is a changable angle end that fits Steel wood or AL angles to makeit fit
12:33 PM IchGucksLive: some do only use a Flex angle gauge
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: but better to do a real for grinding drilles
12:34 PM ziper: I didnt understand any of that
12:35 PM archivist: someone not read the question again
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: im in germay so its crap english
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: archivist as so offen
12:36 PM archivist: ziper google bore gauge anvils
12:36 PM ziper: archivist, yeah, I understood that, thanks
12:37 PM archivist: there are various designs though some screw in, some push and clamped
12:38 PM ziper: mine has the flange and the nut
12:39 PM ziper: just to be sure, you do need a micrometer (or I guess some other reference) to measure, right?
12:39 PM archivist: often yes,
12:40 PM ziper: so then the quality of the anvil doesnt really matter does it, so long as it can get you in the range you want to measure?
12:40 PM archivist: some with a dial indicator are for sliding down the bore looking for wear
12:41 PM ziper: that is what I am doing, making sure the liners are in spec
12:41 PM archivist: should see a step at the top if worn
12:42 PM archivist: and out of round
12:43 PM archivist: note pistons are machined so the expand to round so will measure odd cold
12:47 PM ziper: oh shit i had no idea it just had a dial indicator in the top
12:48 PM archivist: set the dial to 0 with the anvils at your needed setting
12:49 PM archivist: a nice awkward operation easier to say :)
01:00 PM gloops: i doubt many engines get to be rebored these days
01:01 PM gloops: there used to be a little place nearby dedicated to reboring engines, long gone
01:14 PM SpeedEvil: Rebooted is more common.
01:15 PM gloops: scrapped is common
01:16 PM gregcnc: only tuners are building engines, there are so many used engines from wrecked cars if you need a replacement
01:19 PM gloops: well, a lot of people would try to keep a car going for many years, working on them wasnt beyond the diy mechanic, like removing the engine and parting it, these days people just buy another car
01:20 PM gloops: in fact the newer generation of even small family cars are beyond the diy man, electronic synched gears stuff like that
01:22 PM gregcnc: swapping an engine only has more wires now
01:22 PM SpeedEvil: And possibly bits that are impossible to get working due to serial numbers.
01:25 PM gloops: yes more wires, more casings, all crammed into the minimum space
01:26 PM gloops: these engines are assembled on the bench and pushed in complete - often cannot access bolts while the engine is in the car
01:27 PM ziper: my engine threw a rod and scored the shit out of the liner
01:27 PM ziper: so far I pulled the old liner and got the new one, although I havnt put it in yet
01:27 PM gloops: classic car ziper?
01:27 PM ziper: semi-classic
01:28 PM sync: gloops: you just pull the subframe out
01:28 PM gloops: sync lol, yeah - and whos going to that on the drive?
01:29 PM ziper: if the engine blows up again, or if I can't get it rebuilt, i'll swap something in
01:29 PM sync: gloops: I did
01:31 PM gloops: sync well im not saying nobody would, but most people dont these days, the cost of repairs for things like a rebore just make it unviable
01:31 PM sync: it really depends on the engine tho
01:32 PM gloops: you cant remove an alloy head without that needing skimmed
01:32 PM sync: that is not true
01:32 PM gloops: if its a rolls royce ok
01:32 PM ziper: i'm hoping i can just use a hone and not actually need it bored
01:32 PM sync: I had lots of heads off without having them machined
01:33 PM gloops: sync you arent going to re-assemble all that and put it back in without having it skimmed
01:33 PM sync: sure
01:33 PM sync: why would I machine it when it is in spec?
01:33 PM gloops: no way, not for a modern alloy head
01:34 PM sync: idk if you call EA888 heads modern, but I had a few off an never had one warped beyond spec
01:35 PM gloops: well ive known enough try it and wish they hadnt
01:35 PM sync: you just measure it and if it is ok, then just slap it back in
01:36 PM gloops: they bend like clay when you slacken the studs
01:36 PM archivist: do it in the right order
01:37 PM gloops: doesnt stop anything
01:38 PM gloops: ask a mechanic - my head gasket is blowing - can you change it, and he will say - head skimmed
01:39 PM ziper: because they are impartial?
01:39 PM archivist: mechanics are not engineers
01:39 PM ziper: also if the gasket is blown that could cause the problem too
01:39 PM gloops: because they know whats going to happen
01:40 PM sync: idk, I just put them on the surface plate and look if they are warped, if they are not, they are going back on
01:41 PM sync: maybe measure surface roughness if I'm bored
01:42 PM archivist: I doubt the average mechanic has a surface plate
01:43 PM SpeedEvil: I find nearly all the gaskets you can buy are warped when you check them on a surface plate.
01:44 PM gloops: even having the head skimmed is not an expensive job anyway, but the clock is ticking, the cost of this at a dealership or garage is mounting up
01:46 PM IchGucksLive: im off Gn8
01:48 PM sync: sure it is not expensive, but you have to do it, checking the head is faster unless you are a engine builder
02:01 PM gloops: i would guess cambelt failure is the number 1 cause of cars being scrapped these days
02:01 PM gloops: it probably used to be rust here - you go to a scrapyard now the cars arent rusty
02:33 PM CaptHindsight: collisions and not passing emissions tests is what I often see as the reason
02:43 PM sync: cam belt failure is not all that common if you change it like you should
02:45 PM CaptHindsight: I got a car once for cheap due to the poor cam belt replacement
02:46 PM CaptHindsight: it had only partially slipped so the valves did not crash but it ran poorly
02:47 PM CaptHindsight: cam belts help to make sure they sell new cars since they are often not replaced in time
02:50 PM CaptHindsight: has anyone had problems with getting counterfeit wheel bearings rather than name brand?
02:51 PM CaptHindsight: I swapped some sealed bearings as preventative maintenance and had issues after 2-3k miles
03:05 PM jym: ouch
03:16 PM gregcnc: common problem with bearings these days
03:16 PM gregcnc: tough to know where they are really coming from
03:26 PM sadisticroot: Yeah, you have to be careful with sources
03:28 PM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: where did you buy that anyway
03:34 PM CaptHindsight: XXCoder: the wheel bearings? What used to be a good source Bumper to Bumper
03:34 PM XXCoder: interesting
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: NSK's specifically wanted them
03:36 PM CaptHindsight: swapped to National Bearings no problem a year later
03:49 PM gloops: hmm, new install of wheezy not accepting password on first boot, i had this before but cant remember what it was
03:49 PM cradek: do you remember what you set it to?
03:49 PM cradek: you set it during the install
03:49 PM gloops: yeah, re-installed and did it again - still wont take it
03:50 PM cradek: hmm I have not seen this
03:50 PM gloops: might be keyboard config or something
03:50 PM cradek: did you install in english and have english keyboard settings, or something else?
03:50 PM gloops: english - UK english
03:50 PM cradek: hm ok
03:51 PM cradek: did you check caps lock?
03:51 PM gloops: its no problem its just a spare install to play with, yeah checked caps etc
03:51 PM cradek: are you typing numbers on the number pad?
03:51 PM gloops: it happened before ages ago, cant remember what it was now
03:51 PM gloops: no on main keyboard
03:51 PM CaptHindsight: after checking for all the bonehead mistakes we all make you can chroot in vs reinstall again, and change the password
03:52 PM cradek: sorry for boneheaded questions, but are you sure you're typing the login at the login prompt and the password at the password prompt? that initial screen is kinda confusing and weird
03:52 PM cradek: like if you type the login wrong, it keeps asking for only passwords until you CLICK cancel
03:53 PM gloops: right, ill double check that in a while
03:53 PM gloops: login is username?
03:54 PM cradek: yeah
03:55 PM gloops: ;that might be it actually, think i just went straight for password, hmm think i did try username first though - but only after it went into asking for pass only
03:55 PM gloops: will check it now
03:58 PM Jymmm: Am I here?
03:59 PM hazzy: Nope
03:59 PM Jymmm: thanks
03:59 PM hazzy: :D
03:59 PM XXCoder: depends on where 'here' is
04:00 PM Jymmm: anywhere would work
04:00 PM XXCoder: im reasonable sure you are not at anywhere though
04:00 PM Jymmm: you never know
04:00 PM hazzy: Are any of us here?
04:01 PM XXCoder: hazzy: im behind you though
04:01 PM hazzy: heh
04:02 PM XXCoder: im behind everyone in here at once
04:03 PM JT-Shop: hey xx
04:03 PM XXCoder: yo jt
04:10 PM JT-Shop: what's up today?
04:11 PM XXCoder: just relaxing. soon will go to work
04:17 PM JT-Shop: I'm about to call it quits for the day I think
04:18 PM XXCoder: cool
04:18 PM Tom_L: nice day here today
04:18 PM Tom_L: a bit windy
04:18 PM XXCoder: I think today will be more engraving those "washers"
04:18 PM XXCoder: another 700+ parts yayy :P
04:18 PM SpeedEvil: Meanwhile, I need to finish making my desk.
04:19 PM XXCoder: I need to finish my bed
04:19 PM SpeedEvil: Partially assembled, to find it's 10cm too large in every dimension.
04:19 PM XXCoder: I did minium and ignored the 2 drawers
04:19 PM SpeedEvil: Which is nice as I only partially assembled it
04:21 PM gloops_: its been a long day..haha
04:22 PM XXCoder: https://interestingengineering.com/video/this-unique-bike-has-strings-instead-of-a-greasy-chain
04:26 PM gloops_: thats like the old rope pulleys
04:26 PM JT-Shop: actually using my enco mill for something for a change lol
04:27 PM XXCoder: gloops_: yeah though seems decent. I checked website and all their bicycles is "low riders" though so im not buying
04:27 PM XXCoder: my back cant stand to that
04:28 PM sadisticroot: Still interested in the CMM?
04:28 PM gloops_: no good if the seating position isnt comfortable
04:29 PM XXCoder: yeah it seems aimed to those professional bicyclers
04:29 PM XXCoder: means its probably couple k
04:38 PM gloops_: seem to remember seeing bikes with a driveshaft, didnt catch on though
04:39 PM gloops_: and why not belts on bikes?
04:39 PM XXCoder: expense im sure
04:39 PM XXCoder: belts dunno
04:39 PM hazzy: The drive shaft bikes were a joke
04:39 PM hazzy: very inefficient
04:39 PM hazzy: at least the one I rode
04:40 PM gloops_: well my router runs on bike chains lol
04:40 PM gloops_: i oughta post some vids
04:42 PM Deejay: gn8
04:47 PM syyl: bmw bikes have a driveshaft
04:47 PM syyl: i think to this day
04:53 PM JT-Shop: my drive shaft bike is very efficient and very fast
04:54 PM JT-Shop: it's more efficient when 2 are riding :O
05:06 PM SpeedEvil: Even more when the second is a small jet turbine.
05:12 PM jthornton: only if it runs on free fuel...
05:14 PM conan: /msg NickServ identify
05:17 PM roycroft: you be conan
05:17 PM roycroft: you don't need a bot to tell you that
05:18 PM roycroft: turning to bots in times of identity crises is barbaric
05:18 PM conan: ok
05:21 PM sync: syyl: depends on which one
05:21 PM sync: the hp4 and the s1000rr have chains
05:58 PM JT-Shop: yea last part done!
06:37 PM andypugh: I have just ordered 3 more parallel port cards in the hope of finding one that works.
06:37 PM skunkworks: I have about 10 cards - all are moschip and all don't work.
06:38 PM andypugh: So far I have tried a Moschip (didn’t work, well known) and a cheap one with a WCH CH351 in it, which seems to be a general-purpose output ship that can be programmed to be a parallel port, but isn’t seen as such by the kernel.
06:39 PM andypugh: I am actually wondering if that little chip could be programmed to generate pulses in hardware….
06:39 PM CaptHindsight: andypugh: there was some wierdness with the CH351 boards..
06:40 PM CaptHindsight: seems there are clones that don't show up as a lpt port
06:40 PM andypugh: http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?WCH
06:41 PM andypugh: They need a kernel module loading that configures them to be parallel, serial, parallel + serial etc.
06:41 PM andypugh: It’s probably quite a useful little chip.
06:41 PM sync: andypugh: it seems like the netbob we were talking about is taking shape
06:42 PM andypugh: (I should point out that I want this parport for EPP card testing, not to ever move any machine)
06:43 PM CaptHindsight: andypugh: sorry meant the WCH CH382L Chipset
06:43 PM andypugh: I have an all-in-one PC set up with 2 x Parallel, ethernet and 5i25 so I can test most of the Mesa hardware.
06:43 PM CaptHindsight: not sure what the ch351's need or if they work
06:46 PM andypugh: They don’t work.
06:46 PM andypugh: They probably _could_
06:47 PM hazzy: andypugh: What is the latency like on that all-in-one?
06:47 PM andypugh: The card came with a typical chinese driver disk, with a folder for each card that the company sell. But absolutely no indication what they call the card they sent. It is in a box marked “PCI card” and the PCB is entirely anonymous (though, interestingly, there was a bit of tape over the CE mark). I figured it out by reading the chip
06:50 PM andypugh: hazzy: Running the preempt-RT stretch ISO from LinuxCNC, with no tweaking, it is running at 9k servo thread and 16k base thread.
06:50 PM andypugh: Which is about the best I have ever seen.
06:50 PM andypugh: Beating even my RTAI machines.
06:51 PM hazzy: Yeah, that is quit good!
06:51 PM hazzy: *quite
06:52 PM andypugh: One of these http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/RM-One-Ecoquiet-310-Core-i5-2390T-2-70GHz-All-In-One-PC-4GB-500GB-win-7-Pro-/252510261190?hash=item3acac8cfc6:g:cU0AAOSwHoFXvHb9
06:52 PM andypugh: Rather high-quality. That back panel you can see in one of the photos is pressed metal.
06:53 PM andypugh: And it has little rollers underneath so it spins on the spot.
06:53 PM andypugh: (Though I only paid £100 for mine)
06:54 PM hazzy: It is funky looking thing! But seems like it would be a great shop/lab style machine
06:56 PM hazzy: I wonder if they are available here across the pond. Did you say they were made in the UK?
06:58 PM andypugh: Yes, RM are a dedicated supplier into the education sector (hence the ruggedness)
06:58 PM andypugh: I like that it has a handle so I can put it away when not using it.
07:11 PM skunkworks: I think chris just volunteered to write a linuxcnc configuration utility...
07:12 PM skunkworks: Sounds like it will be easy
07:12 PM andypugh: Chris Morley thought that. Poor chap :-)
07:19 PM pcw_mesa: I guess i got unsubscribed to the LinuxCNC users and dev lists
07:23 PM CaptHindsight: pcw_mesa: it's been happening to people lately
07:23 PM CaptHindsight: there was a thread about it
07:24 PM roycroft: if you would read your linuxcnc users list mail you'd know that :P
07:24 PM pcw_mesa: I remember something about it, I have been so busy that i dont remember when it quit
07:24 PM CaptHindsight: some say that they got a notice from sourceforge about keeping it active
07:25 PM CaptHindsight: but they thought it was spam
07:25 PM CaptHindsight: it seems to be random
07:26 PM CaptHindsight: I'm still on and have never gotten a notice
07:26 PM roycroft: i'm still on it too
07:26 PM roycroft: i haven't read it in quite a while
07:26 PM * roycroft is also busy
07:27 PM roycroft: looks like 2 august is when folks started reporting it
07:28 PM pcw_mesa: yeah if there was a notice it probably got deleted along with some "Date a Russian Girl" spam
07:29 PM Jymmm: pcw_mesa: They're hawt! ;)
07:29 PM CaptHindsight: i keep sending them money but they never show up :)
07:29 PM pcw_mesa: Tatyana!
07:41 PM Jymmm: "That vladamere is one sexy biotch!"
07:42 PM Jymmm: or is that Boris?
07:42 PM Jymmm: Natasha FTW
08:24 PM evilroot: Hmmmm
09:09 PM evilroot: I forget who it was that was interested in the CMM
09:10 PM hazzy: _methods ??
09:30 PM evilroot: Ahh yeah
09:30 PM evilroot: I got notice I might have to move to a different space soon, so getting out big stuff would be good heh
09:48 PM SpeedEvil: Handy shop tip: Surface plates make great pizza stones.
09:49 PM hazzy: I would think they might take a few days to get up to temperature
09:58 PM djdelorie: Handy shop tip: pizza stones do *not* make great surface plates :-)
10:04 PM evilroot: I actually have a steel "pizza plate"
10:04 PM evilroot: that goes in the oven
10:04 PM evilroot: It kicks ass
10:05 PM evilroot: https://shop.bakingsteel.com/collections/steels/products/baking-steel-round?variant=22565960135
10:06 PM evilroot: Also great for bread
10:20 PM HighInBC: just steal a manhole cover
10:20 PM HighInBC: ;)
10:26 PM CaptHindsight: Pre-seasoned with our proprietary oil
10:26 PM CaptHindsight: how many times have i heard that before?
10:28 PM CaptHindsight: evilroot: _methods is around more often during the day
10:42 PM evilroot: I got it as a Christmas present
10:42 PM evilroot: Prob wouldn't have bought it for myself, but its been pretty sweet
10:43 PM evilroot: Also works very nice on the grill
10:43 PM evilroot: CaptHindsight: rgr that
11:10 PM hazzy: it takes a little while to load a 1,529,452 line program in Axis ...
11:11 PM CaptHindsight: I wonder if the limit is 4 billion lines or?
11:13 PM hazzy: It did not blow up! Running in sim now. The back plot zooms and pans smoothly. I am impressed
11:14 PM hazzy: I am not going to try and find the limit :)
11:23 PM CaptHindsight: hazzy: is it all just one circular cut but as very small line segments?
11:24 PM hazzy: Capt: Yes, it is just a whole bunch of very small lines segments. All G1 moves.
11:25 PM hazzy: It is not my file, so I don't know how it was generated