#linuxcnc Logs
Sep 28 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:32 AM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: someone else talked?
12:37 AM tiwake: https://i.imgur.com/FMErYfU.jpg
12:38 AM MattyMatt: MAGA sounds better in a Klingon accent
12:38 AM XXCoder: what about MARA
12:38 AM MattyMatt: MA'GARH
12:52 AM MarcelineVQ: in unrelated news, the molasses chelating process described a little while back in this channel has worked to de-rust my tools. I'm reusing the batch on another set to see what happens
12:52 AM MarcelineVQ: A rustier set at a lower solution strength
12:53 AM MarcelineVQ: which is around 1:8 molasses and water that the tools soak in for a week or more
12:54 AM Wolf__: whats the outcome look like?
12:54 AM MarcelineVQ: I've added wd40 as a skin in on top of the solution to reduce evaporation and give a slight coating to the tools as they're drawn from the solution to help prevent air contact rusting. that last bit is just peace of mind though, I've no real basis for it. it does help with the evaporation though
12:56 AM MarcelineVQ: I don't have a camera but I'm well pleased with the result, without exageration it looks brand new on my slightly rusted piecs. I've got some rusty crescent wrenches that are stiff but not seized in there now to see if it penetrates at all
12:57 AM Wolf__: I ran a batch of tool through a vinegar bath to de-rust them, didn’t think about the fact that it would take the oxide finish off some of them lol
12:58 AM MarcelineVQ: I had a bad experience with hot vinegar and stainless that makes me a bit shy of acid-oxide cleaning
01:01 AM MarcelineVQ: Can highly reccomend trying out the molasses rust removal, it takes awhile but it really did the trick here. I've got a piece that had the handle partly out of the liquid that shows the difference well. I'll try and find a camera tomorrow if you want to see
01:01 AM Wolf__: sounds interesting
01:01 AM Wolf__: I may need to try it
01:02 AM MattyMatt: Mr Pete did a video on molasses
01:03 AM MattyMatt: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NNxyFAsxWW0
01:03 AM MarcelineVQ: yes, iirc he didn't leave it long enough though
01:04 AM MarcelineVQ: unless he did more than one and I'm mixing it up, let's see
01:05 AM MarcelineVQ: ah okay I saw the 311 vid not this one
01:05 AM XXCoder: that video is not captioned
01:05 AM XXCoder: or mnaybe he dont speak
01:06 AM sync: I usually use phosphoric acid
01:07 AM MarcelineVQ: XXCoder: audio-wise he speaks in 311 and 314
01:07 AM XXCoder: no idea what 311 and 314 means
01:07 AM MarcelineVQ: the video titles
01:08 AM XXCoder: ahh
01:08 AM XXCoder: unfortinately not captioned, not even autocrapons
01:08 AM MarcelineVQ: oh that's right you are deaf? dang
01:08 AM XXCoder: yeah
01:09 AM MattyMatt: he puts his own captions over the conclusion of #314
01:09 AM XXCoder: yeah saw some text but it dont really matter
01:09 AM MarcelineVQ: not too far in he picks up his cleaned wrenches and shows you the tag of each showing the method name as well
01:10 AM MarcelineVQ: the more pitted wrenches had more rust to cut through so keep that in mind if you're watching the summary at all
01:11 AM MattyMatt: he needs a box of scientifically rusted control wrenches :)
01:11 AM XXCoder: hmm well to make test fair he'd have to expose exactly same tools to same envorment
01:11 AM MarcelineVQ: MattyMatt: I agree
01:11 AM XXCoder: maybe some bleach and water for some time
01:11 AM XXCoder: that'd sure rust em equallty
01:12 AM Wolf__: I need to clean these https://i.imgur.com/Mer1brG.jpg
01:12 AM XXCoder: classic oxide color
01:13 AM Wolf__: and all of these lol https://i.imgur.com/DO8MeXD.jpg
01:13 AM MarcelineVQ: I wish I had those at the moment, they're perfect for tossing in my molasses bucket for this next test round
01:13 AM Wolf__: right now they are all a different shade of brown lol
01:14 AM MattyMatt: files in a bucket of urine allegedly come out sharper than new
01:14 AM MattyMatt: acid sharpened
01:14 AM Wolf__: well thats weird lol
01:14 AM XXCoder: trying to take piss out of us?
01:14 AM MarcelineVQ: good for blisters too
01:14 AM MattyMatt: and jellyfish stings
01:14 AM MarcelineVQ: isn't urine basic though?
01:15 AM XXCoder: yeah piss is basic part of life.
01:15 AM MattyMatt: dunno the details, just the rumour
01:15 AM XXCoder: heh bad joke
01:16 AM MattyMatt: a whole bucket, that'd need a beer party
01:17 AM MarcelineVQ: looks like the ph varies and more acid than not in general, but typically pretty close to drinking water
01:17 AM XXCoder: just distill it
01:18 AM MarcelineVQ: doesn't mean there aren't other things at work that might cause a sharpening effect, I mean I figured molasses was an acid action but appearantly not
01:19 AM XXCoder: pee could act as agent that removes chips and such
01:19 AM XXCoder: so its "sharper"
01:19 AM MarcelineVQ: Well, it is an acid action, but not a corrosive action, it's a chelating action.
01:19 AM MattyMatt: if it's an old blacksmith's trick, it was probably horse piss
01:20 AM MattyMatt: you get a whole bucket in one fill outta them
01:23 AM Wolf__: found after quick google, “1 part phosphoric acid and 9 parts of water. Immerse the files, but keep an eye on them. It will remove the rust and sharpen the files at the same time. In addition, a thin coat of phosphor also protects the files from further rusting if you store them in dry place."
01:24 AM XXCoder: MattyMatt: how do you get horse to piss in bucket?
01:26 AM MarcelineVQ: ride it for awhile so it can't pee then get a bucket before you let it go
01:26 AM sync: well, the files can only be "sharpened" so often and they are not really factory fresh
01:26 AM sync: nowadays it is far easier to just get new ones
01:27 AM MattyMatt: same way you get exhaust gasses outside in a modern garage
01:27 AM MattyMatt: hose and grommet
01:28 AM MattyMatt: or more like an oil pan. just place the bucket under the vehicle and hope for the best
01:29 AM XXCoder: sync: clickspring made a new file for job, it was very interesting
01:30 AM MarcelineVQ: especially liked the case hardening examples
01:32 AM sync: XXCoder: just had a look, he just made regular hand hewn files?
01:32 AM XXCoder: matt interesting
01:32 AM sync: nothing magic involved, it is how every file is made unless the teeth are milled
01:33 AM XXCoder: yeah didnt say magic just interesting
01:33 AM XXCoder: made me wonder though
01:33 AM XXCoder: can it be "refurbished"
01:34 AM sync: yes, files can be rehewn
01:35 AM sync: usually by taking the original teeth off and then putting new ones on
01:35 AM sync: as in the old days the steel was spendy
01:35 AM XXCoder: interesting
01:35 AM sync: which it is not anymore
01:36 AM XXCoder: https://futurism.com/researchers-have-designed-a-type-of-aluminum-thats-lighter-than-water/
01:36 AM XXCoder: odd.
01:38 AM MarcelineVQ: "The team hasn’t actually produced the material yet" then what did they even do
01:38 AM MattyMatt: I invented quilted graphite in a sci-fi story. good luck making that too
01:38 AM MarcelineVQ: drew a pretty picture of it?
01:38 AM XXCoder: MarcelineVQ: physics simulation
01:38 AM XXCoder: but yeah I wonder how expensive it would be
01:39 AM MattyMatt: as expensive as synthetic diamond, I'd guess
01:39 AM MarcelineVQ: maybe I'm old fashioned but when you say soeone developed a new type of aluminum, you expect some aluminum to be involved
01:39 AM XXCoder: matt yeah, unless they find a better way
01:39 AM sync: synthetic diamond is cheap
01:40 AM sync: and has been forever
01:40 AM MattyMatt: it will be when the patent expires
01:40 AM MattyMatt: the vapour deposition stuff. gem quality
01:41 AM XXCoder: nice
01:41 AM XXCoder: diamonds have so many applications.
01:41 AM MattyMatt: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gemesis
01:41 AM sync: possibly, I doubt it tho, if there was a market people would be doing it already
01:41 AM XXCoder: expecially if we can do sheets
01:41 AM sync: sheets have been done
01:43 AM sync: they are being used as output windows for synchrotrons and the like
01:43 AM XXCoder: cool
01:44 AM XXCoder: I wonder how long before its used on phone screens
01:44 AM CaptHindsight: does the molasses scare away the rust gremlins since it tastes like licorice?
01:44 AM MattyMatt: the russians made one for a Venera lander
01:44 AM MattyMatt: that was a rare gem quality from the high pressure method
01:45 AM MarcelineVQ: no it gets them drunk and then they can't keep their grip
01:45 AM XXCoder: LOL https://youtu.be/5l0bM-5EDWk
01:45 AM XXCoder: stupidest thing I ever saw
01:45 AM sync: the highpressure stuff just seems to be solid phase epitaxy
01:45 AM sync: unsuprising tbh
01:46 AM MattyMatt: need v high pressure tho. 50k psi iirc
01:46 AM MattyMatt: or 50k bar
01:46 AM CaptHindsight: the problem with Tinder is that you need a face or at least a picture of one
01:47 AM XXCoder: not too sure why that is issue
01:47 AM CaptHindsight: what if you are just a nebulous ball of gas? How are you suppose to meet somebody?
01:47 AM XXCoder: :P
01:47 AM MarcelineVQ: gas balls can just put themselves in a bigger container, as they expand to fill the volume they'll meet all kinds of people
01:48 AM sync: 50k bar doesn't seem like too much of an issue, the volume you need to contain is not incredibly large
01:48 AM sync: and you can have the tempco work for you
01:48 AM CaptHindsight: wouldn't it be easier to just make more common materials precious?
01:49 AM CaptHindsight: say pickled cabbage
01:49 AM sync: yes
01:49 AM MattyMatt: game of magic cards
01:49 AM sync: it would be the same as with natural diamons
01:49 AM sync: where the marketing and supply is engineered for maximum profit
01:50 AM CaptHindsight: yeah, even more so than Apple products
01:53 AM CaptHindsight: doesn't the synthetic diamond patent only effect the selling of the manufacturing equipment?
01:54 AM CaptHindsight: if you sell synthetic diamonds only how does one know how it was produced?
01:55 AM MattyMatt: it's getting harder to tell. De Beers have started laser marking and certificates of "real mining"
01:56 AM CaptHindsight: well cartels have to keep their monopolies
01:56 AM MattyMatt: microchip substrate is the next big thing
01:57 AM MattyMatt: best thermal performance
01:57 AM MattyMatt: and you can see the electrons whizzing around
01:58 AM MattyMatt: maybe for real if they use light emitting semocondutor layer
02:24 AM Deejay: moin
02:53 AM XXCoder: apparently hugh hefner died
03:04 AM Loetmichel: XXCoder: hmm, not surprising.
03:04 AM XXCoder: yeah hes 91
03:04 AM Loetmichel: he looked dead for a few decades now ;)
03:07 AM Loetmichel: that said: i hope i can say that i had a life as full and interesting as him when i am in his age.
03:07 AM XXCoder: and as much sex?
03:08 AM Loetmichel: THAT i have enough of already
03:08 AM Loetmichel: Call me Al ;)
03:08 AM XXCoder: lol
03:08 AM Loetmichel: (and no, my wife is prettier than Peg!)
03:16 AM XXCoder: wow
03:16 AM XXCoder: super creepy
03:17 AM XXCoder: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DKhNQdEX0AIvRiF.jpg
03:32 AM MarcelineVQ: that girl in the orangeish sweater in the back is aware of the creep factor
03:33 AM * Loetmichel is just making an enclosure for a small Fiberoptic/HDMI converter... MAN i love doing origami with sheet metal and CNC mill. ;-) -> http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=16809&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
03:41 AM XXCoder: MarcelineVQ: yea
03:42 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: fancy
03:42 AM XXCoder: well anyone got idea of cheap way to convert rca to coaxial then back?
03:42 AM XXCoder: I want to throw away vcrs
03:51 AM XXCoder: there is tons s-video or rca to coaxial
03:51 AM XXCoder: but there is very few reverse :(
03:55 AM Loetmichel: what do you mean coaxial?
03:55 AM Loetmichel: RF modulated?
03:55 AM XXCoder: rf yeah
03:56 AM XXCoder: one site says just directly convert plug to rca type and connect it. not too sure on that
03:56 AM XXCoder: https://www.techwalla.com/articles/how-to-convert-coaxial-to-rca
03:56 AM Loetmichel: look for "uhf tuner", should do the trick ;)
03:57 AM XXCoder: pricy
03:58 AM Loetmichel: that techwalla site is BS
03:58 AM Loetmichel: you cant put an RF signal into an Video input
03:58 AM Loetmichel: thats exactly what a tuner is for
03:58 AM XXCoder: yeah though that adoptor looks really weird
04:01 AM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/Brazil-Peru-HD-1080P-SET-TOP-BOX-Support-USB-Record-EPG-VHF-UHF-Antenna-Digital-Terrestrial/32807691868.html
04:01 AM XXCoder: would that work?
04:02 AM XXCoder: whats weird is that it has ant out. I wonder if it could convert other way also. if so, easier to just order 2.
04:13 AM XXCoder: Loetmichel: you think that one would work for rf to rca?
04:20 AM Loetmichel: thats a bit much
04:22 AM Loetmichel: why do you want to have it on RCA anyways?
04:22 AM Loetmichel: isnt the goal to get it from VHS to .mp4?
04:23 AM XXCoder: well problem is this
04:23 AM XXCoder: I have caption machine, and it uses only rf
04:23 AM XXCoder: projector dont hane inbuilt caption, nor do dvd player
04:26 AM Loetmichel: i see
04:27 AM Loetmichel: so you have to convet it to rf, put it trhu the caption machine and then back into a pc?
04:28 AM XXCoder: yeah
04:28 AM Loetmichel: get a terrestrial TV USB stick for PC. it should come with a record app. also it should be cheap beacuse most of the world doesent use terrestial (analog) TV any more
04:29 AM XXCoder: I dont want to use pc
04:29 AM XXCoder: I want t0 use projector
04:29 AM Loetmichel: i see
04:29 AM Loetmichel: then i would say you have to use such a set-top box. but look in the description if it can do UHF
04:30 AM Loetmichel: and get a modulator that does UHF for the other end, preferably with a good aodio circuit. the real cheap ones usually have bad audio circuits
04:31 AM XXCoder: audio im not really concerned
04:31 AM XXCoder: but thanks :)
04:51 AM XXCoder: :(
04:51 AM XXCoder: banana is in trouble again
04:53 AM XXCoder: Gros Michel, and now Cavendish
05:02 AM jthornton: morning
05:02 AM XXCoder: hey
05:02 AM XXCoder: heh if I had time machine, I would steal gros michel plant
05:05 AM jthornton: 2 days left in the month and I have 3.2 GB of usage left...
05:05 AM * jthornton should go for a bike ride this morning while it's cool
05:06 AM XXCoder: download a dvd quick! :P
05:08 AM jthornton: 62F with 60% humidity!
05:09 AM XXCoder: tomorrow will be 80f
05:09 AM jthornton: I put a skylight on the coop yesterday and the chickens like it very much, they now go in by themselves at the proper time
05:09 AM XXCoder: last "summer" day.
05:09 AM XXCoder: friday will be heavy rain, then fall type weather afterwards
05:09 AM XXCoder: nice
05:13 AM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens-2/chicken-sunroof.jpg
05:14 AM XXCoder: pretty strightforward.
05:14 AM XXCoder: so you are flying eh
05:14 AM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens-2/chicken-run-06.jpg
05:14 AM jthornton: standing on my deck
05:15 AM XXCoder: lol yeah was sure of that. whats funny is that ladder is there, making it illusion that you are hovering above it.
05:15 AM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens-2/chicken-run-01.jpg
05:15 AM jthornton: it does look that way except for the posts
05:17 AM XXCoder: looks nice so far.
05:17 AM jthornton: thanks
05:18 AM jthornton: all I have left is to build a door and chink up some holes between the coop and the run
05:19 AM jthornton: little buggers are 6 weeks old yesterday http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens-2/9-23-17.jpg
05:20 AM XXCoder: nice
05:21 AM XXCoder: I always wondered why they seems to be little bit more choosy than just eat plants and bugs
05:21 AM XXCoder: hm I also wonder if you have ants in house, just place chicken there for short time
05:21 AM XXCoder: eat all of em yp
05:22 AM jthornton: it's funny to watch them when one finds a treat and tries to run away from the rest which signals them to chase the one running
05:34 AM jthornton: time to wake the little buggers up...
05:36 AM XXCoder: yay
05:38 AM jthornton: did you see this touch screen for linuxcnc https://github.com/KurtJacobson/hazzy
06:38 AM Tom_L: just like a bunch of siblings
06:38 AM XXCoder: jthornton: pretty cool
06:38 AM Tom_L: yeah his touch screen is starting to take shape
06:38 AM XXCoder: and I like that ui qyite a lot better
06:38 AM XXCoder: even if not used for touch
06:39 AM XXCoder: default is ugly
06:39 AM jthornton: it looks so much cleaner than the geemoocoppy one
06:42 AM XXCoder: yeah im definitely using that after I setup again
06:43 AM XXCoder: my cnc router is partially disassembled and ready to be moved
06:55 AM jthornton: Tom_L: do you have a circuit to connect a pc817 opto to a 5v relay?
06:56 AM XXCoder: jthornton: spotted a possible flaw
06:56 AM XXCoder: it dont seem to have a way to say -.001 a tool length
06:56 AM XXCoder: I'd have to do math myself
06:56 AM XXCoder: which opens up possible typos so on
06:57 AM jthornton: you testing it now?
06:57 AM XXCoder: no
06:57 AM XXCoder: https://github.com/KurtJacobson/hazzy/blob/master/screenshots/Screenshot_3.png?raw=true
06:58 AM XXCoder: it looks like just stright up input no add
06:58 AM jthornton: ah
06:58 AM XXCoder: hurco was like that also
06:58 AM XXCoder: it was all out annoying
07:27 AM mrme_ is now known as mrme
07:27 AM * jthornton goes to pump up the bicycle tires
08:07 AM jdh: road or mtb?
08:19 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, no but it should be pretty easy
08:21 AM Tom_L: set the led to ~5ma current
08:21 AM Tom_L: i'd start with a 330R
08:23 AM Tom_L: check the coil resistance of the relay
08:23 AM Tom_L: but on mine i connected the output direct, no resistor
08:24 AM Tom_L: at 80v you should be ok
08:27 AM Tom_L: emitter to gnd (pin3)
08:28 AM Tom_L: don't forget a emf diode on the relay
08:28 AM Tom_L: http://i61.tinypic.com/2i6c5ew.jpg
08:29 AM Tom_L: that example used a 220R but the relay was 12v so the extra parts
08:32 AM jdh: I have two TIG welders with high freq. starters. THey both work back at my shop. Neither work here. Power measures the same incoming. same torch/cables/etc.
08:32 AM jdh: any ideas/
08:32 AM MarcelineVQ: dunno much about that, same phase?
08:33 AM MarcelineVQ: rather, can you get phase wrong or is that precluded by the plugs that would have been installed?
08:37 AM gregcnc: how much power does the welder need?
08:39 AM jdh: both locations run off a 10kva 480-240 transformer
08:39 AM jdh: needs less than 10A 240vac
08:40 AM jdh: tried swapping 480 legs feeding transformer
08:40 AM gregcnc: line to ground voltage is the same?
08:45 AM jdh: more or less. 234 there, 241 here
08:45 AM jdh: 117.1/117.2, 120.5/120.5
08:46 AM gregcnc: hmm. doesn't power up at all or won't weld?
08:46 AM jdh: won't initiate arc
08:47 AM jdh: actually, it will arc strike once. then not again
08:47 AM gregcnc: with 480V in, it would seem unlikely the source can't handle the current
08:55 AM gregcnc: cool 5axis milling https://youtu.be/msvfo6_Jq8E?t=1m38s
09:02 AM JT-Shop: Tom_L: thanks
09:19 AM JT-Shop: the ones I have are the PC817C with a CTR 200% to 400%
09:19 AM JT-Shop: http://akizukidenshi.com/download/PC817C.pdf
09:22 AM hazzy: XXCoder: Was this in regard to hazzy? "it dont seem to have a way to say -.001 a tool length"
09:22 AM hazzy: You should be able to just arrow over and type "-.001" to subtract from the current entry
09:27 AM hazzy: I have completely rewritten hazzy using GTK3 instead of GTK2
09:28 AM hazzy: it now has a built in drag 'n drop screen designer
09:29 AM hazzy: Not quite usable yet, but getting close: https://i.imgur.com/NV1E9cd.png
11:21 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop you could add a small R in series with the coil if you want but i doubt you need it
11:27 AM HighInBC: a small R is a r ;)
11:30 AM Tom_L: Arrrrr
11:31 AM hazzy: https://youtu.be/O60aKSgUUts
11:32 AM Tom_L: is it functional yet or just the front end?
11:32 AM hazzy: Can issue MDI but can't load file yet
11:33 AM Tom_L: it's getting there..
11:33 AM hazzy: slowly but surely :D
11:44 AM JT-Shop: hazzy: looking good so far
11:44 AM hazzy: thanks JT
11:45 AM hazzy: JT-Shop: Did you get the 24v Power supply I returned to you a few weeks ago?
11:46 AM JT-Shop: yes, standard post would have been fine :)
11:47 AM JT-Shop: I should have the code down in the beer cave to load a file in linuxcnc
11:47 AM hazzy: Good. I had the secretary post it :D
11:48 AM hazzy: I think it is just "cmd.program_open(file)"
11:49 AM HighInBC: can anyone recommend limit switches that don't suck? Ones that support normally closed? I don't want to buy the cheapest on ebay this time like I normally do
11:50 AM hazzy: JT: Your tutorials were invaluable for getting started with Python!
11:50 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you can see the little opto board i added for the 24v relay: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/Control5.jpg
11:50 AM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/rue/OPTO_Bottom.jpg
11:51 AM Tom_L: one's a spare
11:51 AM hazzy: TEMC0 switches are all i use, they are made in the US and very good quality
11:51 AM Tom_L: maybe coolant?
11:52 AM hazzy: http://www.temcoindustrialpower.com/
11:53 AM HighInBC: that relay board has an opto on it
11:53 AM Tom_L: i'm not using that one
11:53 AM Tom_L: for that
11:54 AM Tom_L: that one is for the drive inhibit while the other one is switching
11:58 AM HighInBC: hazzy: thanks for the tip
12:08 PM * JT-Shop goes back to building a chicken door
12:19 PM MarcelineVQ: when a listing like this says 2 phase what does it mean? does it actually mean 2 phase power somehow or is it just referring to bipolar motors? https://www.aliexpress.com/item/TB6600-replacement-stepper-motor-driver-2phase-9-40VDC-4A-for-NEMA17-NEMA23-motor-CNC-router-controller/32763620151.html
12:21 PM pcw_home: most step motors are 2 phase motors
12:22 PM hazzy: just means bipolar, there are also 3 phase steppers, so they are probably just trying to use the same terminology
12:22 PM MarcelineVQ: I see thank you both.
12:22 PM pcw_home: 5 phase also but 99%+ are 2 pahse
12:23 PM archivist: luckily unipolar are becoming extinct
12:23 PM hazzy: yeah!
12:24 PM hazzy: Only think they are good for is making music :D
12:25 PM archivist: you can play cnc muzak on bipolar too
12:29 PM hazzy: Sure, but is is much less, noisy
12:32 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:40 PM hazzy: hello
12:40 PM hazzy: Your latest vid is good
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: but mi english is bad
12:47 PM MarcelineVQ: seems fine, at least I don't have trouble understanding it
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: that is good to hear
12:50 PM hazzy: No, your English is better than a lot of Americans I know, seriously
01:47 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8
01:48 PM HighInBC: hazzy: that is a fairly low bar ;)
01:49 PM hazzy: Very true, and you waited till he left ;)
01:56 PM MarcelineVQ: Wolf__: https://imgur.com/a/tEum5 molasses cleanup difference, wrench tip was outside of the jar I was using
01:57 PM MarcelineVQ: jaw was seized but loosened with a light hammer tap then cleaned out easily as well
02:01 PM gloops_: heekscnc - any good?
02:01 PM gloops_: i mean the version in the linux repository
02:02 PM HighInBC: hazzy: I have not seen the video in question
02:02 PM HighInBC: I was just enjoying BrainRight's videos, he is like the Bob Ross of CNC's
02:08 PM hazzy: HighInBC: Thanks for mentioning the BrainRight channel, looks like some good stuff on there
02:08 PM HighInBC: he has a great set of videos on a 4th axis rig he built
02:13 PM hazzy: Wolf__: I recently restored a 1971 Series 1 BP, it was quite rusty and I considered using molasses but ended up soaking the WHOLE thing in evaporust since it works faster. All the part but the column I submerged. It looks almost new
02:53 PM CaptHindsight: hazzy: how did you decide on using GTK+ for your UI project?
02:53 PM hazzy: It is all JT's fault, I started with his tutorials ...
02:55 PM hazzy: But I have come to really like GTK+, better then QT, but I have much less experience with qt so might just be that
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: I tend to avoid any code writing but I've been tempted to write a UI myself
02:56 PM hazzy: It was certainly not an educated decision
02:56 PM hazzy: It is addictive, don't start!
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: not for me
02:56 PM CaptHindsight: I'd really rather hold the wrong end of a soldering iron
02:57 PM hazzy: They all say that at first :D
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: give me 1's and 0's
03:00 PM CaptHindsight: my thoughts are to use something like Vulkan https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Vulkan_(API) since it's for PC's as well as ARM gpu's
03:01 PM CaptHindsight: and have the wire frame preflight look real
03:02 PM hazzy: hmm, interesting, but that looks very low level
03:03 PM CaptHindsight: my comfort level
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTK%2B_Scene_Graph_Kit
03:04 PM CaptHindsight: supports it
03:06 PM hazzy: SGK seems interesting, I wonder then GTK4 will be released
03:07 PM CaptHindsight: it's interesting for me since I use LCNC to control multi-axis printers
03:08 PM CaptHindsight: inkjet
03:12 PM hazzy: wow, using gcode? I would not think it would be fast enough. Seems like printing would be like rastering
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: g-code for the paths
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: the printhead timing is all in hardware
03:21 PM CaptHindsight: I use LCNC for laser galvos as well
03:21 PM CaptHindsight: the analog amps that drive the mirrors are tuned with their own PID's...
03:22 PM CaptHindsight: LCNC just needs to supply them with open loop 0-10v for position and the mirrors are linear up to their top speed
03:23 PM hazzy: What are you using for the hardware? I guess you have custom firmware
03:23 PM hazzy: I am more impressed with the flexibility of LCNC every day!
03:23 PM CaptHindsight: the inkjet stuff is all custom
03:24 PM CaptHindsight: all under NDA since the inkjet industry is about the most secretive as you can get
03:24 PM CaptHindsight: printer makers don't even want you to know what model printhead they are using
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: and no warranty for even $6k/ea printheads
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: they are tested before they ship to you
03:27 PM CaptHindsight: Usage App & GTK4 Vulkan https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FHmyrV1CXM
03:32 PM hazzy: That looks great!
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: I need something tailored like Pathpilot
03:38 PM hazzy: What do you need? I can try to tailor hazzy for you needs if you can wait a bit :)
03:39 PM hazzy: I used to use pathpilot on my machines, but it was so locked down it was a real pain
03:39 PM hazzy: hence the hazzy project
03:42 PM CaptHindsight: don't worry about me
03:42 PM CaptHindsight: just in the idea stage
03:45 PM gloops_: i need to build a small laser machine
03:45 PM gloops_: i got 5 machines to build and no time
03:49 PM JT-Shop: I feel the same way... too much to do and not enough time
03:51 PM gloops_: i looked at my little bandsaw yesterday, only got 7-8 inch cut height, pretty easy to saw the pillar off and weld another 6 inch on i reckon, with a brace along the back of it
03:52 PM gloops_: wanting to cut some live edge boards
03:59 PM JT-Shop: yea I can print envelopes and labels again... off to fix the next problem
04:03 PM CaptHindsight: gloops_: yeah, time, money, desire, energy
04:05 PM CaptHindsight: JT-Shop: has the chicken project become a full time job yet? :)
04:05 PM gloops_: well, at least my next cnc build will be far quicker - as i now know how to wire one up and get it to work from software lol
04:05 PM gloops_: just the mechanical build
04:06 PM JT-Shop: part time... about to finish I hope
04:09 PM JT-Shop: ain't no damn dog gonna kill my chickens again!
04:28 PM Deejay: gn8
05:12 PM gloops_: getting the hang of it yet slipalong?