#linuxcnc Logs

Sep 06 2017

01:36 AM IchGucksLive: morning from germany
01:54 AM IchGucksLive: hi gloops
01:54 AM gloops: hi
01:55 AM gloops: if i want to set a maximum feed rate - this is controlled by max velocity?
01:55 AM gloops: (regardless of what g code sets)
01:55 AM archivist: yes
01:56 AM gloops: ok thanks, i read a forum post talking about a feed rate slider on the interface, i havent got one, maybe talking about the velocity slider
01:59 AM archivist: I suppose velocity is just another term for feed
02:02 AM gloops: how does throttling the feed velocity affect the rapids though?
02:03 AM IchGucksLive: my new 4Axis construction ;-) https://youtu.be/BzqN-yL2LGs
02:03 AM IchGucksLive: gloops: rapeds got a saparad slider
02:03 AM IchGucksLive: 5 axis max be ready tomorrow if i get time
02:04 AM IchGucksLive: i will add the STEP to grabcad
02:06 AM gloops: tall gantry Ichs, would there be any advantage to having the X rails overhead?
02:10 AM IchGucksLive: up to you working against the FG9,81 si always a not good idee Z needs to be more stable
02:10 AM IchGucksLive: i.O doouble backup railing for Y is also a consider
02:11 AM IchGucksLive: i rersonly dont like to do full closed framing
02:12 AM IchGucksLive: http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/holzcnc.jpg
02:12 AM IchGucksLive: this is the DRILL mashine build with no other mashine then a Drill
02:13 AM IchGucksLive: the main treads are TR20x4 hold by UCP
02:13 AM IchGucksLive: ok the Timingbelt has a 20H7 hole but it came as a Tupper
02:14 AM IchGucksLive: the wood is from Homedepo by Drawing ready made Beside the Sides
02:15 AM IchGucksLive: im off
02:23 AM Deejay: moin
03:12 AM gloops: so the missing link in my small spindle setup finally arrives - the 3 week collet, now i cant find the spindle! LOL
03:13 AM archivist: I understand losing stuff :)
03:13 AM archivist: get another
03:14 AM gloops: i swear ive seen it every day in the garage - but when you go for it - not there
03:14 AM gloops: waiting for a real spindle this is just for practice - and learning purposes
03:16 AM archivist: I am in the process of tidying the garage, oooo what's that
03:17 AM archivist: must be more brutal with untouched stuff to make working space
03:19 AM gloops: just keep buying more stuff
03:19 AM gloops: when you have 10 of everything you should be able to find 1
03:19 AM archivist: that becomes impossible when all 10 are in the one lost box
03:21 AM archivist: my manuals have become barcoded and coded a map of the house for finding
03:21 AM gloops: ive just bid on some old V blocks some old lathe driveplates for use with dogs and some old changewheels, for nothing, but very local, youve got to get this stuff when it comes up
03:21 AM gloops: someone will probably weld it into a modern art statue if i dont rescue it
03:22 AM archivist: ebay collection can be fun when the seller tries to sell you mooooore
03:23 AM gloops: thats the dividend when you go to collect and he says ' oh you dont know anyone who could use this do you?'
03:24 AM archivist: I got a nice DTI and a box of files at one collection
03:29 AM Deejay: re
04:04 AM gloops: trend collect sleeve needed a bit off the length, this allegedly quality tooling, mounted with a light grip in the lathe, the metal peeled off like cheese, soft as hell, was expecting something harder, when coming to insert cutter, the sleeve had actually stayed compressed haha
04:04 AM gloops: £9 for something made of wrought iron
05:32 AM jthornton: morning
06:02 AM XXCoder: hey jthornton
06:02 AM XXCoder: know whats wonderful?
06:03 AM XXCoder: my car getting fine coat of ashes
06:03 AM jthornton: is ash harmful to paint?
06:03 AM XXCoder: in a way, yes
06:03 AM XXCoder: its abrasive
06:03 AM XXCoder: but if just use water wash off it wont harm paint
06:09 AM jthornton: big ole Hilti drill hung up yesterday and jammed my thumb a bit... still sore this morning
06:10 AM XXCoder: ow
06:11 AM jthornton: yea and I have 5 more holes to dig out and set posts
06:14 AM * XXCoder facepalms. http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-bristol-41167296
06:16 AM jthornton: lol
06:33 AM Tom_itx: morning
06:35 AM Tom_itx: 50�F
06:35 AM jthornton: 54f here
06:37 AM XXCoder: today was supposed to be 96f but ashes blocked the sun
06:37 AM XXCoder: so it stayed at 80s
06:37 AM XXCoder: humid as hell though
06:40 AM XXCoder: 129 air quality here
06:40 AM XXCoder: what with ACTUAL ash falling on everything? while last time it was 148 and it was all smoke
06:43 AM XXCoder: it was pretty bad, I coughed all day, and I was inside in shop all day
06:44 AM XXCoder: night all. hope I wake up alive
06:44 AM jthornton: goodnight
07:16 AM * jthornton looks for a 47k resistor...\
07:17 AM archivist: there is one in the 47k drawer
07:18 AM archivist: who has hidden my drawer of assorten allen keys
07:18 AM jthornton: I gave them away last week
07:18 AM archivist: aw
07:25 AM jthornton: yea got the DS18B20 working with the ESP8266
07:40 AM jthornton: now I need to find those 3.3v relays I bought
08:45 AM samsagaz: guys, exist some software that run under linux that let me draw laser cuts designs?
08:45 AM samsagaz: i want to cut some 5mm steel plates with laser and want to draw it under linux
08:46 AM simonious is now known as Simonious
08:47 AM archivist: samsagaz, there are two parts to your question, the drawing and the cam to convert that to gcode
08:48 AM samsagaz: archivist, i see... i need to get the file to send to the store that made the cuts maybe is a dwg or similar, right?
08:48 AM archivist: dwg or dxf
08:49 AM SpeedEvil: samsagaz: Iassume you know you're going to need a moderately expensive LASER to cut 5mm steel
08:49 AM archivist: some laser cutting companies then deal with those formats to cut
08:49 AM archivist: I think he wants to use a supplier
08:49 AM samsagaz: SpeedEvil, yes, are really expensive that job in Argentina, i dont have the laser i want to make the drawing and then send to a supplier
08:49 AM samsagaz: to make the job
08:50 AM samsagaz: but just want to know if exist some some app that run under linux... or all are crap?
08:50 AM archivist: ask your supplier which formats he can deal with then seek the drawing program
08:50 AM samsagaz: ok
08:51 AM archivist: we used to use dxf for our local laser cutting supplier
08:52 AM samsagaz: i call it, accept both formats... told me .dwg or .dxf
08:55 AM samsagaz: DXF is open source so maybe is the way to go
09:02 AM archivist: be aware that some people dont stick to the format fully so may get errors
09:03 AM samsagaz: ok
09:03 AM archivist: once upon a time I wrote a script to fix the dxf file to join the line ends, a problem with floats not being exact
09:57 AM IchGucksLive: hi
09:58 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: still here
09:58 AM samsagaz: IchGucksLive, sure
09:59 AM samsagaz: trying to use freecad
09:59 AM samsagaz: but looks harddddd
09:59 AM IchGucksLive: im in germany
09:59 AM IchGucksLive: for laser cuts it is best to go QCAD
09:59 AM IchGucksLive: then use Sheetcam to get the gcode
09:59 AM samsagaz: oh, nice
09:59 AM JT-Shop: hmm hole 8 of 12 contains dirt instead of rock and clay...
09:59 AM samsagaz: will search for it
10:00 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: if the laser runs linuxcnc you can direct do the gcode on the laser
10:00 AM IchGucksLive: the featuers are within the system
10:01 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: here is my youtube channel that provides the infos https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCmwhCL92ZQRSVqFe3jGwJSQ/videos
10:02 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: what laser parts to go Engraving or cut
10:02 AM samsagaz: cut
10:02 AM samsagaz: installed
10:03 AM IchGucksLive: so is it industrial parts or more Clipart
10:03 AM samsagaz: its to reinforce some small CNC machine
10:03 AM samsagaz: im selling small machines for laser engraving and pcb
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: here is another good free CAM https://launchpad.net/~neomilium/+archive/ubuntu/heekscnc-devel
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: i build around 100 mashine a year
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: for Education with nonprofit use
10:04 AM IchGucksLive: there are all on free software
10:04 AM samsagaz: and using 2020 profiles for structure, want to reinforce it with steel plates, and want to laser cut the steel so will avoid to use squares
10:05 AM samsagaz: 2020 squares are expensive here...
10:05 AM IchGucksLive: im on 45x45 at 10Euros/mter
10:06 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: for pcb you can use Eagles UDF direct on PCB-Gcode
10:06 AM samsagaz: i pay like 15 USD/meter the 2020 :(
10:06 AM IchGucksLive: workes perfect
10:06 AM samsagaz: just looking for some free cad now
10:06 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: where in the world are you
10:06 AM samsagaz: Argentina
10:07 AM samsagaz: we have like 80% taxes
10:07 AM IchGucksLive: agree it is bad down there
10:07 AM samsagaz: everything is expensive
10:09 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: eco_alu in buenes aires has a full construction alu line
10:10 AM IchGucksLive: are you around there
10:11 AM samsagaz: im at 300km from Buenos Aires. and i didnt know eco_alu
10:11 AM IchGucksLive: ARQUIMEX is also a dealer in Argentina with multiple shops
10:12 AM samsagaz: yes i think that arquimex are in buenos aires but didnt sell 2020/4040 profiles..
10:13 AM samsagaz: just a few dealers here
10:13 AM samsagaz: one sell chinese profiles and other sell bosch ones
10:13 AM samsagaz: similar prices in both places, but bosch ones need to order 50+meters / order
10:13 AM IchGucksLive: eco-alum / Elumatec
10:14 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: im around 30km away from the boschh main production line
10:14 AM IchGucksLive: also FESTO is right next
10:14 AM IchGucksLive: and they all use profiles from MINI-Tech service
10:16 AM IchGucksLive: her is the CAD provider from MINITEC for quick konstruction and CAD files http://minitec.kimweb.de/prevpggroup.aspx?wer=8
10:24 AM samsagaz: yes, i know festo too.
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: qcad is like Autocad
10:25 AM samsagaz: festo is damn expensive here
10:25 AM samsagaz: trying qcad now
10:25 AM IchGucksLive: it is also expensive here but it is the best you can get
10:25 AM samsagaz: trying to draw a circle at 10mm from side and cant :D
10:25 AM samsagaz: will check some tutorials
10:26 AM IchGucksLive: it shoudt be most time selfexplaining
10:26 AM samsagaz: damn crashed :/
10:32 AM samsagaz: again
10:32 AM samsagaz: [1] 32586 segmentation fault (core dumped) qcad
10:32 AM samsagaz: :/
10:33 AM IchGucksLive: did you use the BIT version
10:33 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: WHAT os are you on
10:33 AM samsagaz: Arch Linux
10:33 AM IchGucksLive: Ubuntu Debian
10:34 AM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: use the CLONE https://www.archlinux.org/packages/community/x86_64/librecad/
10:35 AM samsagaz: installing
10:37 AM samsagaz: testing...
10:38 AM IchGucksLive: im off 2hr bye later
11:29 AM JT-Shop: wow two posts in by 11am
11:33 AM jdh: no post hole digger on the tractor?
12:28 PM IchGucksLive: hi from Gerany
12:30 PM CaptHindsight: helloooo
12:31 PM CaptHindsight: IchGucksLive: do you miss park rangering or was a few year enough?
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: im still envolved
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: and i controll about 120km
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: with 65 km my own
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: at my age it is enoph
12:45 PM samsagaz: to send the dwg to the supplier to cut wit laser need to add some measurements too? or just the drawing?
12:46 PM IchGucksLive: tell him what it is in size so it can recalculate if needed
12:46 PM archivist: is the drawing to scale!
12:46 PM IchGucksLive: samsagaz: best to use DXF
12:46 PM fdarling: is anyone aware of LinuxCNC setups allowing for multiple "multiplexed" Z-axes? In other words, I'd like to have multiple Z-axis and spindles (or whatever) but only have one used at a time, and all referred to as Z. This would mean when you changed active Z's, it should "teleport" in X/Y/Z to the selected spindle's coordinate system
12:47 PM samsagaz: IchGucksLive, ok
12:47 PM fdarling: I am not sure if there are existing CNC setups out there that use this system, and what to call it...
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: fdarling: Jesos_alos got 3 Z axis
12:47 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: any ideas about how it's set up in HAL?
12:48 PM fdarling: the idea is to have a "tool change" actually change which spindle is in use, not swap a tool out in a given spindle
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: it is called by Mcode and then swaps the offsets and the spindle
12:49 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: so LinuxCNC is happy with the Z-axis "teleporting" during an M-code?
12:49 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: or rather, the coordinate system shifting and the underlying joint being swapped out
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: all Z axis move the same Y as connected
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: the Z1 is a different Join as the Z2
12:50 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: in my case the Y would be the same as well, but the actual coordinate might change because of how the spindles are mounted. I could probably solve this with a tool offset though
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: thats in G10
12:56 PM archivist: fdarling, someone else has just done one, trying to find it
12:57 PM archivist: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/38-general-linuxcnc-questions/32002-biesse-rover-346-retrofit?start=210
12:57 PM archivist: many tools and a few spindles
01:04 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: oh yeah, I was interested in doing a coordinate system rotation using G10. The documentation doesn't seem to explain when the rotation is applied though, is it last?
01:05 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: I want to be able to go over two fiducials on a circuit board at known positions (in the job), then apply a offset/rotation or a matrix transform to have the G code match up with the workpiece
01:05 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: https://forum.linuxcnc.org/40-subroutines-and-ngcgui/20912-sheet-alignment-in-a-plasma-table
01:05 PM IchGucksLive: the coordinate shift takes effect at the next real mashine move
01:05 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: what I mean is, if you rotate with G10, is it applied after the X/Y offset?
01:06 PM IchGucksLive: it is the ofset of the given coordinate
01:06 PM IchGucksLive: you move to a tool change point
01:06 PM jdh: I do g10 l2 r(whatever) from mdi, then confuse myself trying to touch off several times, then all is good
01:06 PM IchGucksLive: then offset to the neyt spindle and then move back to the part
01:07 PM IchGucksLive: fdarling: you als can jump around by G92
01:07 PM IchGucksLive: and reload the screen
01:08 PM IchGucksLive: with axis-remote
01:08 PM IchGucksLive: there are multiple ways to do it
01:08 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: independent of the multi-axis stuff, if I am trying to correct for a crooked rectangular workpiece
01:09 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: and I can line up with two holes known to be at say X0.25Y0.75" and X9.75Y11.5" or something
01:09 PM IchGucksLive: see touchoff screen /probe screen that has this subroutine
01:09 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: if I actually had to jog to some crazy coordinates because it was crooked by 27 degrees, ideally there would be a way to straighten that out in X/Y with G10
01:10 PM IchGucksLive: first advice workpice straight
01:11 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: yes, believe I know, but it's because I am acid etching a circuit board using manual techniques and it is never perfect, and you need to have it near perfect to hold tolerances
01:11 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: so you get the artwork (acid etched) onto the copper clad consistent with itself, *but not the material edges*, then you get the drill hits/routing to match up with that based off fiducials\
01:11 PM IchGucksLive: pcb are in straigts http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/pcb_milling.jpg
01:12 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: they are milling (engraving) the PCBs, I am acid-etching and using the CNC only for slotting and drill hits
01:13 PM fdarling: IchGucksLive: acid etching gives far superior results with a fraction of the machine time, and no fiberglass dust to gunk up the mechanics or give you lung cancer ;-)
01:13 PM IchGucksLive: there are usaly 2 points in a FR to get them straight
01:13 PM IchGucksLive: coustomers are advised to do so
01:13 PM IchGucksLive: and keep the 2.54 rast
01:14 PM fdarling: what do you mean by "FR" and "rast"?
01:14 PM IchGucksLive: most acid factories only do center PCB sheet as 160x80 in europ
01:15 PM IchGucksLive: within 2mm space to the plate edge
01:15 PM IchGucksLive: im in germany hard to explain
01:15 PM IchGucksLive: but on not given rules the coustomers go crazy
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: and then the acid factorie does know wher to position for drill
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: target Egle kicad does all place this markings
01:22 PM JT-Shop: hey phipli
01:25 PM Tom_itx: fence posts in yet?
01:31 PM IchGucksLive: 5 Axis new Construction finished wihthin the last hour https://youtu.be/BbVUEcMGrdE
01:31 PM IchGucksLive: i will upload the step file to grabcad
01:32 PM IchGucksLive: large Y axis for use as a Lathe education mill demonstration
01:32 PM IchGucksLive: i will make a plug to connect the B in Y end postition at 90Deg and a holder on the other side
01:33 PM kb8wmc: IchGucksLive: good day to you sir
01:33 PM IchGucksLive: ;-)
01:33 PM Tom_itx: ich, you build those right?
01:34 PM IchGucksLive: i mashined 12 spindles today TR12x4 end to fit the 8mm bearing
01:34 PM IchGucksLive: yes i do Tom_itx
01:34 PM IchGucksLive: i got 7500 EUR direct to make this and around 20k in comming from 1Jan
01:35 PM JT-Shop: working on #9 of 12
01:35 PM Tom_itx: ball screws?
01:35 PM IchGucksLive: the Mashines got Ballscrew
01:35 PM Tom_itx: JT-Shop, local place was having a moving sale so i got an i7 for the board. unplanned
01:35 PM JT-Shop: nice
01:35 PM JT-Shop: what did that set you back?
01:36 PM Tom_itx: 260
01:36 PM JT-Shop: nice
01:36 PM IchGucksLive: the 4 axis is based on this HIWIN set http://www.ebay.de/itm/EU-6Pcs-Square-Linear-Rail-Guide-L-400-700-1000mm-Ballscrew-1605-400-700-1000mm-/152680647211
01:36 PM Tom_itx: saved about 50-60
01:36 PM kb8wmc: very good
01:36 PM * JT-Shop goes back to digging... it's cooler outside
01:36 PM Tom_itx: 7700
01:37 PM IchGucksLive: the 5 Axis on that http://www.ebay.de/itm/DE-SBR16-Guide-Rail-Set-3-Ballscrew-RM1605-350-750-1150mm-Nut-3-BK-BF12-CNC-Kit-/152681951136
01:37 PM IchGucksLive: with a spare 500mm Z
01:38 PM IchGucksLive: ok im off to many CNC today
01:38 PM CaptHindsight: fence posts go in quicker when you leave 80% sticking out
01:38 PM kb8wmc: take care
01:38 PM IchGucksLive: tomorrow around 100 treads M4x8 to make
01:38 PM Tom_itx: kb8wmc make any progress?
01:41 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
01:41 PM kb8wmc: Tom...yes, I did, and having next issue
01:41 PM Tom_L: got the io working?
01:41 PM kb8wmc: I spent time and still am doing what I should have done a long time ago...reading how to work with hal
01:41 PM kb8wmc: Tom, not yet working...it is now down to connections
01:41 PM kb8wmc: physical connections
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/bearing-block-rail/20-mm-aluminium-shaft-support-open-pre-installed-bearing-lme20uu-open-20mm/ I used these for a heavy drawer slide and was embarrassed by how crunchy they are
01:42 PM phipli: evening JT-Shop
01:42 PM kb8wmc: JT asked me if I had a parallel port set up, which I did as I was using his example hal file containing parallel port....I believe I was in error doing so...so I dumped the parts relating to parport
01:44 PM kb8wmc: I learned something that I misunderstood which left me with having to figure out what the pin not found error...more reading and learning in the forum
01:44 PM kb8wmc: got the pin not found error figured out so no more errors there...
01:46 PM kb8wmc: now I am reading the basic hal tutorial which I should have done years ago...
01:46 PM JT-Shop: phipli: got the DS18B20 working with the ESP8266 :)
01:46 PM phipli: :)
01:46 PM phipli: what are you measuring the temperature of?
01:46 PM JT-Shop: the chicken coop
01:47 PM phipli: going to put a heater in it?
01:47 PM JT-Shop: speaking of chicks I had one on each shoulder and one on my head and two arms full of chickens a while ago :)
01:47 PM phipli: I've said before, I have a lightbulb in a bucket with some sand in the bottom
01:47 PM JT-Shop: yes, a couple of 100w reptile heaters
01:48 PM phipli: do you have any picture updates?
01:48 PM phipli: guessing they've grown even more :)
01:48 PM JT-Shop: http://gnipsel.com/images/chickens-2/ last one uploaded aug 27
01:49 PM JT-Shop: need to upload some more
01:49 PM JT-Shop: yea their feathers are popping out all over now
01:50 PM * JT-Shop goes back to digging holes
01:50 PM roycroft: they'll be providing you with breakfast before long
01:51 PM roycroft: and then they'll be dinner
01:51 PM Tom_L: what we won't do for our pets...
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: did anyone make my CNC weaving machine for me yet?
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: I see that you can finally buy a 3D printer that combines SLA with FDM
02:00 PM CaptHindsight: and another uses inkjet to color FDM prints
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20170831-xyzprinting-announces-3000-dollars-da-vinci-full-color-3d-printer-with-3dcolorjet-technology.html
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.3ders.org/articles/20170824-layer-one-teases-new-fdm-sla-combo-3d-printer-the-atom-3.html
02:03 PM JT-Shop: roycroft: takes 5 months before they start to lay eggs
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: JT-Shop: you building a fence to keep out the chicken hawks?
02:07 PM JT-Shop: keep dogs and coyotes out
02:13 PM McBride36 is now known as Smalls
02:19 PM CaptHindsight: https://youtu.be/4i0g8vWeliI?t=6m27s the vid makes it look like it's just resting on the horses
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: with that much rust it can't be accurate to less than .05"
02:22 PM CaptHindsight: https://youtu.be/4i0g8vWeliI?t=18m39s
02:35 PM gloops: where to home Z?
02:35 PM CaptHindsight: most often not near the bottom of the travel
02:46 PM gloops: right, i thought homing z was mainly about keep a safe height
02:47 PM gloops: ive just run a surfacing routine, with strange result, the step down was going the wrong way
03:00 PM Smalls is now known as McBride36
03:12 PM XXCoder: gloops: the z machine home usually at max height
03:13 PM XXCoder: meaning highest it can go, well can be slightly lower if you use switch there
03:14 PM gloops: ok
03:15 PM XXCoder: its good safety really, if you forget to set tool length and its still at 0, it would go upwards
03:15 PM XXCoder: if machine z zero was say on table point, it would go down and crash
03:16 PM gloops: yes sound thinking
03:17 PM gloops: why are there 2 touch offs with linuxcnc as well, i got 'touch off' and also 'tool touch off' tool touch off is often greyed out
03:17 PM XXCoder: X and Y is really your choice for home positions, it tend to be left and back from your viewpoint
03:18 PM gloops: ive got X left and Y nearest
03:18 PM XXCoder: thats better way sometimes yeah
03:19 PM XXCoder: CaptHindsight: cool video. I cant imange handling such a huge rod
03:19 PM gloops: its how my normal CAD is set up so im more used to looking at it that way
03:19 PM XXCoder: cool :)
03:26 PM JT-Shop: 9 posts done... 3 left
03:27 PM XXCoder: nice, JT-Shop
03:27 PM gloops: JT-Shop should have gone to the hire shop and hired a breaker with a bolster tip
03:28 PM gloops: all the fencing lads round here use them
03:43 PM XXCoder: btw guys
03:43 PM XXCoder: if buying a house, do a sewer inspection. its worth it.
03:47 PM gloops: drain under the floors?
03:48 PM XXCoder: no its pipes inspection
03:48 PM CaptHindsight: from city connection to under the floor or catch basin
03:49 PM XXCoder: they sent us youtube videos, and it showed some code failures
03:49 PM XXCoder: like say standing water, derbis
03:49 PM XXCoder: they said whole sewer pipes would have to be replaced, as its 70 years old and shouldnt have standing water, leaks, so on
03:49 PM JT-Shop: gloops: I have a Hilti TE 76
03:51 PM gloops: ah right, i did a job for someone a couple of years back who'd just bought a fair sized house, downstairs toilet wasnt working - no water in it, they just assumed the water to it has been turned off, turns out the drain that ran right under the kitchen floor had collapsed - and thats also where the rats were getting in
03:52 PM gloops: JT well that would do it with a long bolster chisel in it
03:52 PM XXCoder: ouch
03:53 PM gloops: not a massive job but not really the kind of thing you want when youve just settled in, digging the kitchen floor out
03:54 PM XXCoder: indeed
03:54 PM XXCoder: water is enemy of house
03:55 PM XXCoder: as it is, those sewer would cost $15,000
03:55 PM XXCoder: inspection is just $185
03:55 PM XXCoder: they saved us a lot of money
04:00 PM JT-Shop: yea wish I had a long one, mine is only 14" long
04:00 PM XXCoder: 185 mph, cat 5 :( that area is getting socked so hard
04:01 PM XXCoder: its apparently also larger than state of ohio
04:02 PM JT-Shop: https://www.hilti.com/drilling-%26-demolition/chisels/r3440
04:02 PM JT-Shop: where is the eye now?
04:02 PM XXCoder: getting close to cuda
04:03 PM XXCoder: its traveling right across all islands below fla
04:03 PM JT-Shop: http://www.nhc.noaa.gov/#Irma
04:07 PM XXCoder: sucks
04:10 PM XXCoder: virgin islands
04:15 PM XXCoder: ah apparently it's women fault, since a woman ate an apple. ken ham.
04:16 PM XXCoder: *our
04:17 PM cradek: https://earth.nullschool.net/#2017/09/06/1500Z/wind/surface/level/orthographic=-72.83,20.83,1535
04:19 PM XXCoder: what a difference a degree of temperate increase to oceans makes.
04:29 PM cradek: and there sure is another hurricane coming right behind it
04:29 PM Deejay: gn8
04:29 PM gloops: oh i dont buy into all this global warming stuff
04:32 PM Crom: yay got my dell laptop for fusion360
04:39 PM Crom: passmark 5200 rating Intel I7-7500U 2.9Ghz, 16GB, 2TB Drive.
05:22 PM Tom_L: ssd?
05:26 PM Tom_L: my junk shows up tomorrow
05:28 PM JT-Shop: cool
05:28 PM JT-Shop: 3 more posts to go... crap I'm tired
05:41 PM Tom_L: there were 3 more to go when i left an hour ago...
05:41 PM Tom_L: damn union workers...
05:42 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, you gonna get another gigabyte board?
05:48 PM JT-Shop: I'm thinking so for my desktop
05:48 PM Tom_L: that wasn't your first gigabyte board was it?
05:48 PM Tom_L: i'm kinda liking em
05:49 PM Tom_L: couple sticks of ram and i can keep my other one going as well
05:49 PM JT-Shop: no I have a few but this is my first M.2
05:49 PM Tom_L: wasn't really planned that way
05:49 PM Tom_L: same here
05:50 PM JT-Shop: just got a PO for a pretty good paying job the other day... might be enough to sway me lol
05:50 PM Tom_L: i'll probably make a backup and try to clone it to the M.2 drive
05:50 PM Tom_L: hope it works that easy
05:50 PM Tom_L: heh
05:50 PM Tom_L: always helps
05:53 PM JT-Shop: yea if the bank account goes up it is a good day
05:54 PM Tom_L: do you know what sort of plug is needed for the MB parport?
05:54 PM Tom_L: i'll try the thing i made for the mesa boards with a gender changer and see if that works first unless it's a mini dual row plug
05:54 PM Tom_L: then i'm screwed
05:55 PM Tom_L: i might have one around here somewhere
05:56 PM JT-Shop: not off the top of my head but it looks like a 46 pin or so IIRC
05:56 PM Tom_L: for the parallel port?
05:57 PM JT-Shop: something like that, I just took a quick look when putting it in
05:57 PM Crom: i dont think it has ssd.. need to check to see if it hs a nand (ssd) cache
05:57 PM JT-Shop: maybe 26 pin...
05:58 PM Tom_L: it's got a TPM port right beside it whatever that is
05:58 PM Tom_L: just pulled up the pic
05:58 PM Tom_L: looks like 26 with one pin clipped off
06:00 PM Tom_L: hah, opened the junk drawer and there was one sitting right there
06:01 PM JT-Shop: lol
06:01 PM Tom_L: not that i need it but if it's there i may as well
06:02 PM Tom_L: found my xilinx jtag there too... been looking for that
06:03 PM Tom_L: BeachBumPete how's the weather?
06:03 PM JT-Shop: I'm wore slick from post holes today
06:03 PM Tom_L: i'm not as young as i was yesterday either
06:04 PM JT-Shop: yea I have to pace myself but losing 65 pounds made a huge difference in my stamina
06:04 PM Tom_L: i'm not really overweight, i just need more exercise
06:05 PM JT-Shop: I'm 7 pounds over my goal...
06:05 PM Tom_L: and i don't care for exercise that doesn't accomplish something
06:05 PM Tom_L: ie postholes :)
06:05 PM JT-Shop: tough to get there
06:06 PM JT-Shop: speaking of post holes it's time for the cricket rodeo...
06:06 PM Tom_L: dug in a sprinkler line recently right beside that 5' tree's roots
06:06 PM Tom_L: i won but it sure gave a fight
06:07 PM BeachBumPete: Tom_L its fine right now ;)
06:08 PM Tom_L: better get crackin on that tool changer dude...
06:08 PM BeachBumPete: If there is anything to get crackin' on its gonna be hanging my hurricane shutters right now hehe
06:11 PM _methods: you ready BeachBumPete
06:12 PM _methods: looks like it's headin my way after it gets done with you down there
06:12 PM BeachBumPete: no not really
06:12 PM FAalbers: You gonna leave or stay BeachBumPete
06:12 PM BeachBumPete: oh we're not leaving
06:13 PM _methods: ride that shit out like a bawse
06:13 PM BeachBumPete: but we gotta get the hurricane shutters out of the attick and install them
06:13 PM FAalbers: What's the worse you ever go through ?
06:13 PM _methods: cat 4 is the worse i went thru
06:14 PM _methods: BeachBumPete is about to get to ride one out
06:14 PM CaptHindsight: BeachBumPete: are they expecting it on your side or on the west?
06:14 PM CaptHindsight: or just all over?
06:14 PM FAalbers: Good luck ! Hope it passes far
06:14 PM _methods: i don't think they know yet
06:14 PM BeachBumPete: honestly they really have no idea where it is going
06:14 PM _methods: looks like it's tracking east now though
06:14 PM BeachBumPete: wait a few hours they will change their minds
06:15 PM _methods: hell it may do the islands then go out into atlantic
06:15 PM BeachBumPete: I have lived in Florida Most of my life
06:15 PM _methods: you know wilmington will get it lol
06:15 PM BeachBumPete: been thru many storms
06:15 PM _methods: they get hit by all of them
06:15 PM BeachBumPete: I would not want to be down in the Islands right now tho
06:15 PM _methods: nope
06:15 PM _methods: they keys are about to get whacked
06:15 PM CaptHindsight: I saw one prediction map that had it in Chicago by next weekend
06:16 PM FAalbers: Is it as sary as they show on TV ?
06:16 PM _methods: i think they're fun personally
06:16 PM _methods: but last 'cane i spent on my neighbors house patches holes from tree limb
06:16 PM _methods: so that one wasn't so much fun
06:16 PM FAalbers: If yer house survives I guess
06:16 PM _methods: yeah
06:17 PM BeachBumPete: most of the time the houses that don't survive are either right on the ocean or are not worth living in
06:17 PM _methods: put on some water wings and my motorcycle helmet and go outside and hug a tree trunk till it's done
06:17 PM BeachBumPete: We went thru hurrican Matthew last year
06:17 PM BeachBumPete: it was a cat4 when it went between us and the Bahamas
06:18 PM _methods: yeah that's the one i spent on a roof the whole time
06:18 PM CaptHindsight: https://cdn.arstechnica.net/wp-content/uploads/2017/09/gefs_cyclone_atlantic_34.png
06:18 PM BeachBumPete: honestly I saw thunderstorms that were worse
06:18 PM CaptHindsight: pretty much of Florida gets hit no matter what according to this
06:18 PM BeachBumPete: I hope so
06:19 PM _methods: 'murrica's penis is about to get a blow job
06:19 PM BeachBumPete: when it hits the entire state like that it weakens quickly
06:19 PM BeachBumPete: if it runs along the coast in the warm waters it can get stronger
06:19 PM _methods: yeah that's worse case scenario for me
06:19 PM CaptHindsight: lots of hot air down there
06:20 PM _methods: i'm hopin it rides the dong and peters out
06:20 PM BeachBumPete: its gonna do what its gonna do no matter what we think LOL
06:21 PM _methods: tru dat
06:21 PM _methods: i got food, water
06:21 PM BeachBumPete: I just usually board up good and wait it out
06:21 PM _methods: need to get some gas and charcoal still though
06:21 PM BeachBumPete: We live about 20 minutes from the beach
06:21 PM Tom_L: NASA could get up their with their planes and spread magic storm dust on it
06:21 PM CaptHindsight: BeachBumPete: what is your elevation?
06:21 PM BeachBumPete: its Florida...
06:22 PM BeachBumPete: everyone is just a few feet above LOL
06:22 PM _methods: lol
06:22 PM _methods: 26' ASL
06:22 PM _methods: hahah
06:22 PM CaptHindsight: i heard it was becuzof all dem anti=jesusers
06:22 PM BeachBumPete: dafuq?
06:23 PM CaptHindsight: I'm only at ~900ft
06:24 PM CaptHindsight: last time we had climate change around here a glacier melted
06:24 PM BeachBumPete: been really enjoying my new PCP air rifle... damn thing is a tack driver ;)
06:26 PM FAalbers: We have big time Climate Change ! West entrance of tunnel can be 20 degree difference with East side entrance
06:27 PM FAalbers: Tunnel is only half a mile
06:27 PM BeachBumPete: I change the climate all the time...usually after taco's ;)
06:27 PM CaptHindsight: FAalbers: through a mountain?
06:27 PM FAalbers: CaptHindsight, More like a hill
06:28 PM FAalbers: Hot Valley on one side , SF Bay on the other side
06:29 PM BeachBumPete: been there
06:30 PM BeachBumPete: damn bay gets chilly and windy
06:30 PM FAalbers: Pffff ... Mandatory Gesture Drawing class
07:02 PM tiwake: _methods: hi
07:02 PM _methods: yo
09:30 PM jb__: 1mm is moving 50mm; whats up
09:30 PM jb__: new machine
09:30 PM Tom_L: scale
09:31 PM jb__: Im new scale where
09:38 PM jb__: anybody???
09:39 PM jb__: hey laurent freecadder
09:40 PM Tom_L: i presume it's a stepper machine
09:40 PM jb__: yes
09:41 PM Tom_L: so you need to know how many steps it takes to make one revolution and how far that revolution moves the axis
09:41 PM jb__: steppers set for 400
09:41 PM Tom_L: 400 what?
09:41 PM jb__: so is stepconfig
09:41 PM Tom_L: oh god. i've never used stepconfig
09:42 PM Tom_L: i've done all mine manually
09:42 PM jb__: thats sounds about the right answer
09:43 PM Tom_L: so how many steps does it take to make one revolution?
09:43 PM Tom_L: including microsteps
09:44 PM jb__: steppers are set for 400 steps per/rev and 2 microsteps
09:44 PM jb__: stepconfig appears to be useless to me
09:45 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/config/stepper.html
09:45 PM Tom_L: mine makes 200 steps per revolution * 20 revolutions per inch
09:45 PM Tom_L: 10 microsteps
09:46 PM Tom_L: so my scale in the ini is set to 40000
09:46 PM jb__: so scale is in ini file
09:47 PM Tom_L: on each [AXIS_x] section
09:47 PM Tom_L: one per axis
09:47 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/configs/sherline/
09:47 PM Tom_L: that's my complete setup
09:47 PM Tom_L: sherline.hal and sherline.ini
09:48 PM Tom_L: it's got alot of extras in it so don't get too confused
09:48 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/hal/basic-hal.html
09:49 PM jb__: It was working, so i am guessing that when i used stepconfig, it hosed it up
09:50 PM Tom_L: don't know, stepconfig overwrites your config though
09:50 PM Tom_L: keep backups
09:50 PM Tom_L: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/config/ini-config.html
09:51 PM jb__: yeah, I just got a NAS going today, needed it last week!
09:52 PM Tom_L: and if an axis is moving backwards, just change the sign of scale
09:52 PM Tom_L: instead of rewiring it
09:53 PM jb__: Everything else is working well, just the scale was honked;
09:54 PM Tom_L: so change it per axis
09:54 PM Tom_L: in the ini file
09:54 PM jb__: Had a loose fuse, rewiring never helped, just checking from power cable inward!
09:55 PM jb__: Checked a lot of connections before I went back to Line!
09:55 PM Tom_L: so what is this 'machine' you have?
09:56 PM jb__: Thanks for now, i will check the INI file data; bye!