#linuxcnc Logs

Aug 12 2017

#linuxcnc Calendar

01:55 AM XXCoder: pink_vampire: hows your machining so far
01:57 AM pink_vampire: very good
01:57 AM pink_vampire: but i have some programming / scripting issue right now :(
01:57 AM XXCoder: thats good. work have been very hot, but weekend will break it and rest of year will be cooler :)
01:57 AM pink_vampire: i need to generate hex list from 000 to FFF
01:57 AM XXCoder: talking about breakage, office mill I has been running broke down lol
01:57 AM XXCoder: bearing is shot after making hundreds of parts. its not production parts :P
01:58 AM XXCoder: *machine
01:58 AM pink_vampire: OMGG
01:58 AM XXCoder: its second time that specific machine broke down, and third time overall with that type of machine. dont buy office mill.
01:59 AM pink_vampire: i made a large part
01:59 AM XXCoder: im getting more and more impressed with robodrill by fanuc tho.
01:59 AM XXCoder: yeah? ms tiny parts made something large? :)
01:59 AM pink_vampire: the robodrill is much much more then just drill...
02:00 AM XXCoder: its cnc mill machine.
02:01 AM XXCoder: and im making rather.... complex part on it
02:02 AM pink_vampire: in 15 years it will become a hobby machine for someone
02:03 AM XXCoder: likely yeah, though apparently the pair of robodrills Im been running has been in utah company for years before they went under and sent machines to us
02:03 AM XXCoder: it's pretty tough machine, unlike office mills
02:04 AM Wolf_: o.0 pink made a large part?
02:04 AM XXCoder: yeah I know! wow
02:04 AM XXCoder: pink_vampire: whats ya made thats larger than your standard
02:07 AM LeelooMinai_ is now known as LeelooMinai
02:11 AM pink_vampire: yeah
02:11 AM pink_vampire: let me take a pic
02:11 AM pink_vampire: (i need to cut one more one)
02:12 AM pink_vampire: and I cut my nails to the skin!
02:12 AM pink_vampire: almost..
02:14 AM XXCoder: ow
02:18 AM pink_vampire: uploading..
02:19 AM Wolf_: suspense
02:19 AM XXCoder: dum dum dumdummmmm
02:20 AM pink_vampire: before http://i.imgur.com/UMvxESY.png
02:21 AM pink_vampire: after http://i.imgur.com/gxjsGVh.png
02:21 AM pink_vampire: XXCoder: Wolf_
02:21 AM XXCoder: interesting
02:21 AM Wolf_: neat
02:21 AM XXCoder: yeah
02:22 AM Wolf_: she made a large part, to make something smaller…
02:23 AM pink_vampire: i dont like the chair handles
02:23 AM XXCoder: arms
02:24 AM pink_vampire: arms..
02:24 AM pink_vampire: i don't like it.
02:24 AM pink_vampire: i think it look nicer with the new part
02:25 AM XXCoder: it does look nice
02:25 AM Wolf_: I like it
02:26 AM Wolf_: but I don’t mind arms on my chairs either :P
02:28 AM XXCoder: gonna love spam emails
02:29 AM XXCoder: "records show you can save on mortage"
02:29 AM XXCoder: yeah my nonexistant mortage rates suck.
02:30 AM pink_vampire: i need some sugar
02:31 AM XXCoder: sorry little too far away to bring a cup of sugar
02:32 AM pink_vampire: the end of youtube https://youtu.be/ugEbbyzP124
02:34 AM Wolf_: I’m closer.. but still to far away
02:34 AM XXCoder: pink lol haunted house prop?
02:35 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Germany
02:37 AM pink_vampire: hi IchGucksLive
02:37 AM pink_vampire: IchGucksLive: [02:49:13] <pink_vampire> before http://i.imgur.com/UMvxESY.png [02:50:18] <pink_vampire> after http://i.imgur.com/gxjsGVh.png
02:37 AM XXCoder: hey the cnc maker
02:38 AM IchGucksLive: pink_vampire: you shoudt show up at makerbot shop NY and overtake it i a week
02:38 AM IchGucksLive: making 1k USD a week
02:40 AM IchGucksLive: or better as you woudt fit the HAAS shop near Newburg NY
02:41 AM IchGucksLive: a well dressed CNC "LADY" woudt sell more mashines
02:41 AM IchGucksLive: not of cause the dress cause of Women on mashine
02:41 AM IchGucksLive: im to old to fit this
02:42 AM IchGucksLive: english is getting more and more unredable
02:46 AM IchGucksLive: im off to mashine making wood signes http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/hs_2.jpg 50 signes to go
02:47 AM pink_vampire: where he go..
02:48 AM XXCoder: to work on his jobs I guess
02:58 AM pink_vampire: maybe..
03:07 AM Deejay: moin
03:07 AM pink_vampire: hi
03:33 AM pink_vampire: no one is on arduino :(
03:35 AM archivist: on one admits to being on arduino
03:39 AM XXCoder: no one admits to being an arduino
03:40 AM pink_vampire: #arduino
03:41 AM XXCoder: I use it only for my 3d printer.
03:41 AM XXCoder: not much use for me otherwise heh
03:42 AM pink_vampire: i want to send over serial 4 hex digits, and control the pins of the arduino to represent binary numbers. so the last digit will transform to 4 bits , and the first 3 digits will transform to 12 bit.
03:42 AM pink_vampire: so if i send 0xF3F5 i want to get on the arduino pins something like that 111 100 111 111, 0101
03:42 AM archivist: it has serial so that should be simple
03:44 AM pink_vampire: i know.. (but I'm totally not a programmer)
03:47 AM archivist: there is probably and example or three on the net
03:47 AM archivist: an
03:48 AM XXCoder: yeah there should be example of setting up wires and pushing hex value and it outputting bits correctly
03:49 AM XXCoder: but same time last time I did hardware programming (ignoring 3d printer stuff) I used asm not C or anything
03:50 AM archivist: https://hackaday.io/project/18140-serial-to-parallel-printer-interface
03:50 AM pink_vampire: i need some programmer that get paid by aluminum parts.
03:51 AM XXCoder: if I remembered more programming I'd love to do it heh
03:53 AM archivist: pink_vampire, best to learn then you can change it as you go along
03:54 AM pink_vampire: life to short to learn everything
03:54 AM archivist: you dont have to learn everything, just what you need
06:07 AM jthornton: morning
06:15 AM phipli: morning
06:19 AM jthornton: messing with that damn camera yesterday and I set my main router to and crashed my LAN with everything still on 192.168.0.xxx
06:20 AM jthornton: shut everything down this morning and started each pc and printer back up so they could all be on 192.168.1.xxx
06:20 AM jthornton: now zoneminder can't find my chicken cam...
06:22 AM JesusAlos: morning
06:32 AM phipli: hum
06:33 AM phipli: cycled power on everything after the router?
06:33 AM phipli: everything set to DHCP?
06:33 AM archivist: DHCP--
06:33 AM phipli: yes and no
06:34 AM phipli: Stable established network DHCP--
06:34 AM phipli: friends visiting wishing to use wifi quickly without faff DHCP++
06:34 AM phipli: although that happens less these days
06:34 AM phipli: used to live with physicists and electronic engineers...
06:35 AM phipli: thesedays I mainly socialise with mechanical engineers and so they're more likely to ask for a hammer and the sack truck...
06:36 AM phipli: I prefer issuing static IPs to the main machines on the network and using DHCP for everything else
06:36 AM archivist: must change the other wheel on my sack truck
06:36 AM phipli: axle isn't big enough in mine for my comfort - keep meaning to take it to bits and seeing if I can improve it
06:36 AM archivist: printers randomly changing ip address and windows losing touch!
06:36 AM phipli: can feel the flex when you put a washing machine on it
06:37 AM phipli: archivist: haven't had that issue
06:37 AM archivist: yet
06:37 AM phipli: I have a usb and a parallel printer, bridged using SBCs when needed
06:37 AM phipli: so... not such an issue as long as CUPs behaves
06:37 AM phipli: (different kettle of fish type problems)
06:37 AM jthornton: yea the LAN is up and going fine and IE sees the dlink camera fine
06:39 AM phipli: I actually think I remember us both ranting about printers once archivist - you were having network problems at the same time I was having CUPs issues...
06:39 AM archivist: I was fixing other peoples, not me having problems :)
06:39 AM phipli: :)
06:40 AM phipli: I'm the arsehole that fixes peoples windows 10 issues by installing linux
06:40 AM phipli: only with permission of course
06:40 AM archivist: I am a bit strange in running real dns :)
06:40 AM phipli: we spent several hours trying to get windows 10 to un-break itself after an update and the internet wasn't forthcoming with solutions
06:41 AM phipli: they needed to use the machine and couldn't at all... so I shoved mint on it and it worked better than "broken"
06:41 AM archivist: I think they have shot themselves in both feet with win10
06:41 AM phipli: did something similar with the missus' old machine
06:41 AM phipli: archivist: auto update
06:42 AM phipli: shot themselves in the foot with whatever version was originally installed
06:42 AM archivist: not just the auto update
06:42 AM archivist: now they are fscking with users settings when updating
06:42 AM phipli: if you're going to trick people into updating by making the close box be "OK", at least make sure your os is stable first
06:43 AM phipli: heh
06:43 AM archivist: the whole attitude to the customer sucks
06:43 AM phipli: at work people think I'm good with computers, so it really confuses them when I say something like (yesterday) where are the mouse settings on windows?
06:43 AM phipli: I have to explain that I've never owned a windows machine
06:44 AM archivist: they move the settings version to version
06:44 AM archivist: becoming impossible to support
06:44 AM phipli: archivist: once you realise that software houses have to sell updates to survive and that producing the perfect OS will end them...
06:44 AM phipli: it makes more sense
06:45 AM phipli: almost can't blame them
06:45 AM archivist: but makes the culture poisoness to the users
06:45 AM phipli: why I prefer the Linux or Mac OS sale methods - makes more sense for the user :
06:45 AM phipli: Linux : I made this for myself, you can use it too if you like
06:45 AM archivist: mac is going that way too
06:46 AM phipli: MacOS : This is something we made so you can use the hardware we sold you
06:46 AM phipli: archivist: yes
06:46 AM phipli: I was a mac user
06:46 AM phipli: now I am not
06:46 AM archivist: we dont support ver x buy new hardware
06:46 AM phipli: 1990s Mac dialogue box : "I can't do that"
06:46 AM phipli: 2000s mac dialogue box : "You can't do that"
06:47 AM phipli: 2010s mac dialogue box : "you can only install approved software by default"
06:48 AM archivist: 2017 linux we used boost, you must have elebenty gb of ram
06:48 AM phipli: They lost me when they stopped making desktops properly
06:48 AM phipli: elebenty....
06:49 AM phipli: that reminds me - should go and pick some elderberries
06:49 AM phipli: thought they'd gone over but saw some on the way home yesterday
06:49 AM phipli: amazing blackberry crop this year too
06:49 AM * jthornton needs to bottle up the elderberry wine
06:49 AM phipli: jthornton: do you have a recipe?
06:49 AM archivist: weeeeeeds
06:49 AM jthornton: yes
06:50 AM jthornton: http://gnipsel.com/wine/wine.html
06:51 AM archivist: trouble with elder is the purple pigeon sh*t
06:51 AM jthornton: yea if you treat elderberries like other berries you get green scum lol
06:51 AM phipli: I guess there isn't an issue with washing
06:52 AM phipli: you can't wash apples for cider because you need the natural yeast on the skin
06:52 AM phipli: (for traditional methods)
06:52 AM phipli: jthornton: what do you do differently?
06:52 AM phipli: I've only ever made stuff with elderflower
06:53 AM jthornton: just don't squeeze the elderberries or you get the soluient green
06:53 AM phipli: tended to go for the parsnip wine / beers / cider
06:53 AM phipli: so just soak them?
06:53 AM jthornton: I freeze the berries for a few days then thaw them and put into a pillow case
06:53 AM jthornton: then pour the very hot water over the berries
06:53 AM phipli: yeah - freezing is one of the things you can do for rhubarb wine
06:54 AM jthornton: and let it drip for a bit then move to a new bucket and repeat for the blush
06:59 AM phipli: this is quite cool : https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aqqEYz38ens
07:47 AM jthornton: reminds me of that song too much time on my hands lol
07:56 AM * jthornton still needs a new motherboard with >4 cores for the camera server
07:58 AM archivist: somewhat excessive?
08:03 AM jthornton: they say as you add cameras it can get pretty busy processing all the info
08:04 AM archivist: the encoding possibly but is that not done in camera?
08:04 AM jthornton: if I look at my DHCP clients Hostname i see the server name cameras but if I look at the status page on my router the Name (if any) column is blank for the server but shows other PC names
08:07 AM jthornton: finally got the coop cam up and running on zoneminder :)
08:07 AM Tom_itx: does zoneminder support PTZ?
08:09 AM jthornton: I don't see PTZ in the list of options but that doesn't mean much as I'm very new using it
08:09 AM jthornton: oh ptz yes it does slap on forhead
08:09 AM jthornton: pan tilt and zoomn
08:09 AM Tom_itx: great
08:10 AM jthornton: https://wiki.zoneminder.com/D-Link#DCS-5010L.2C_DCS-5020L_and_DCS-5025L
08:10 AM jthornton: the coop cam is a DSC-5020L cheapy one so next is to configure ptz
08:11 AM Tom_itx: i wonder if one of these asrock boards would be enough for 4 cameras
08:11 AM jthornton: which board is that?
08:12 AM Tom_itx: Q1900M
08:12 AM jthornton: https://wiki.zoneminder.com/D-Link_DCS-5020L_Control_Script
08:13 AM Tom_itx: i wonder what they use for a joystick for those
08:13 AM Tom_itx: or maybe it's just kbd
08:14 AM jthornton: dunno when I get it up and running I'll know :)
08:14 AM Tom_itx: you have a supporting camera for PTZ?
08:14 AM jthornton: yea that last link is for the control script for my cheap camera
08:15 AM jthornton: j1900 with a quad core for $70
08:15 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/ASRock-Q1900M-Motherboard-Micro/dp/B00JO1DIIM
08:15 AM Tom_itx: i've already got these though :)
08:15 AM jthornton: gigibit ethernet controller is nice
08:18 AM Tom_itx: guess i could try this board
08:18 AM jthornton: need to setup a static ip on my server now
08:18 AM Tom_itx: what ver debian?
08:19 AM Tom_itx: the newer ones seem to want you to use the gui
08:19 AM jthornton: ubuntu server 16.04
08:19 AM Tom_itx: i had a little trouble with debian
08:20 AM Tom_itx: it would keep reverting to localhost
08:20 AM Tom_itx: slapped it around a little bit and now it's behaving
08:21 AM Tom_itx: i thought i blew out my spindle driver the other day
08:21 AM Tom_itx: still haven't positively found the cause but it may point to a stuck relay
08:21 AM Tom_itx: and the driver may be ok
08:22 AM Tom_itx: i think until i get a driver that supports reversing i may just stick with fwd only
08:23 AM Tom_itx: at that time i just wanted to test spindle sync and rigid tapping
08:23 AM Tom_itx: the spindle motor really isn't big enough to tap much of anything
08:24 AM jthornton: what spindle do you have?
08:24 AM Tom_itx: it's on this little stock sherline
08:25 AM Tom_itx: it's just like this orient thing, i just wanted to see if i could do it
08:25 AM jthornton: I know what you mean
08:26 AM Tom_itx: you can look at a map but until you've actually travelled down the road, you don't know all the pitfalls
08:26 AM jthornton: I made a stepper mount with an encoder mount to couple them together for some strange reason
08:27 AM Tom_itx: might improve accuracy
08:27 AM jthornton: tell me about it, I've been trying to get Dewey's plasma thc control to work for a while but the power supply died or something else dunno
08:28 AM Tom_itx: i was using 2 spdt relays instead of one dpdt or this may not have happened
08:29 AM Tom_itx: hah, dog was dreaming... really whippin somebody's arse
08:29 AM jthornton: yea a dpdt is best for fwd/rev
08:29 AM Tom_itx: i had those cheapo ardweenie ones so i tried it
08:31 AM Tom_itx: finding a dpdt with 3-5v low current coil isn't that easy
08:32 AM Tom_itx: could put an opto driver in front of one i suppose
08:33 AM jthornton: hmm yea all of mine are spdt I think\
08:34 AM jthornton: ah no https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00SKG6OM4
08:34 AM jthornton: only the 3v ones are single pole
08:36 AM Tom_itx: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Two-DPDT-Signal-Relay-Module-Board-DC12V-Version-for-PIC-Arduino-8051-AVR-/130690277968?epid=1584234723&hash=item1e6dbf6250:g:1asAAOSwk5FUv7Nz
08:36 AM * Tom_itx hates paying amazon their cut
08:37 AM Tom_itx: 12v thoug
08:37 AM Tom_itx: h
08:38 AM jthornton: lol for $100 amazon will install your motherboard
08:39 AM Tom_itx: http://www.ebay.com/itm/New-Channel-Relay-Module-Two-way-relay-5V-for-Arduino-8051-AVR-PIC-DSP-ARM/201883029741?_trkparms=aid%3D222007%26algo%3DSIM.MBE%26ao%3D2%26asc%3D45703%26meid%3D06425f9158de49729b5bfc4479cf69f8%26pid%3D100005%26rk%3D6%26rkt%3D6%26sd%3D400272908552&_trksid=p2047675.c100005.m1851
08:39 AM Tom_itx: dollar a relay
08:50 AM jthornton: pretty good deal if you don't mind waiting a month for them to arrive
08:50 AM phipli: just keep one in stock and order a new one every time you use it
08:51 AM archivist: but they will be out of their depth when you ask for linux :)
08:59 AM jthornton: phipli: I reinstalled the server and installed zoneminder from ssh and now all is working except ptz :)
09:00 AM phipli: did ptz work before?
09:00 AM phipli: :)
09:00 AM jthornton: with the D-Link interface yes it works
09:00 AM jthornton: still trying to sort out how to set it up on zm
09:00 AM phipli: been out and picked lots of blackberries
09:00 AM jthornton: hmm breakfast time :)
09:00 AM jthornton: yummy
09:01 AM phipli: might make a blackberry and raspberry crumble
09:01 AM phipli: don't think the apples are any where near ripe yet sadly
09:43 AM IchGucksLive: hi
09:44 AM IchGucksLive: Phipli you might open a secent it store on so many stuff
10:48 AM IchGucksLive: till later
12:24 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:37 PM BeachBumPete: Hey Ich
12:37 PM BeachBumPete: howzitgoin LinuxCNC ;)
12:37 PM BeachBumPete: received my standoff kits yesterday so been tinkering on this electronics board for the Standard Modern Lathe Retrofit
12:39 PM phipli: hum
12:40 PM phipli: so - 5v pwm -> optocoupler -> 0 to 10v input : outputs 10v all the time
12:40 PM phipli: when the except when the 5v pwm is completely off
12:40 PM BeachBumPete: I got the motherboard mounted and installed the RAM and my 5i25 card. Need to make a vertical stanchion to hold the card securely
12:41 PM phipli: 5v pwm -> mosfet level shifter (bidirectional, might be issue) -> 0 to 10v input
12:41 PM phipli: works perfectly...
12:41 PM phipli: until you turn the spindle controller on
12:41 PM phipli: then something screws up the ground and the mcu crashes
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: you need 12V to get 10V out
12:42 PM phipli: I have a variable boost supply
12:43 PM phipli: Either the input is pointlessly sinking a load of current
12:43 PM phipli: or it is producing lots of noise
12:43 PM phipli: either way, better isolation would be helpful
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: there are 5USD ready made isolated ones
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: but let me make a screenshot of mine
12:45 PM phipli: got any examples?
12:45 PM BeachBumPete: why would you use a 5v PWM signal to generate 0-10v spindle control signal? I don't understand your problem maybe
12:46 PM phipli: because ttl logic is traditionally 5v and that is where I'm starting from
12:47 PM BeachBumPete: What is the hardware/board you are using?
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: phipli: http://pasteall.org/pic/index.php?id=117920
12:48 PM phipli: nand gates?
12:48 PM phipli: as a buffer?
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: phipli: on that board it is included and the whole board is at 6USD
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I00ArvYvZgI
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: yes
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: the poti is for calibrating
12:49 PM BeachBumPete: on my RF45 CNC retrofit I used a CNC4PC board and it generated its own 0-10v signal via PWM
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: BeachBumPete: that is a good board
12:50 PM BeachBumPete: it was ok I am MUCH happier with my Mesanet stuff tho
12:50 PM BeachBumPete: I had the C11G board on mine
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: BeachBumPete: the CN board 5axismach is at 3 different voltige flows isoladed
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: that is the savest way to go
12:51 PM CaptHindsight: ever find the matching connectors for the IO on that BOB?
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: its XH-3s
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: JST-XH-3s
12:52 PM CaptHindsight: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/jst-xh-3s-wire-extension-20cm-10pcs-bag.html
12:53 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.gearbest.com/rc-parts/pp_26867.html
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: anf for the Input switches of the tb6560 it is JST-xh-d2c7
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: 182641497810
12:55 PM IchGucksLive: http://www.ebay.de/itm/5X-5-Stuecke-Buchse-auf-Buchse-5Pin-Flexibel-JST-XH-Kabelstecker-Anschluss-D2C7-/182641497810
12:57 PM IchGucksLive: you can get this cables from 15cm to 20 to 30cm length
12:58 PM IchGucksLive: 10 jst-xh-3s at 2USD
12:58 PM IchGucksLive: 15cm
01:00 PM IchGucksLive: i use the 30cm ones as you can short them ,-)
01:01 PM BeachBumPete: Do you guys think that plastic standoffs are adequate for mounting the 7i77 board or do I need to purchase the also plastic Din Rail mounts??
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: here in the case http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/5achs_elek
01:01 PM phipli: what is the maximum length you can get away with parallel cables normally?
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: 5m
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: 21feet to the 7i76
01:02 PM BeachBumPete: My Cincinatti has a long one going from the control panel up front to the 7i77 out back of the machine in the electronics enclosure
01:02 PM BeachBumPete: probably like ten feet or so
01:06 PM CaptHindsight: be sure to use IEEE-1284 spec cables when you go that far
01:06 PM CaptHindsight: not sure who is honest about meeting the spec since most cables come from the land of closenuff and goodenuff
01:08 PM BeachBumPete: true enough there
01:09 PM BeachBumPete: mine IS marked as such for whatever that is worth ;)
01:09 PM CaptHindsight: pcw mentioned 15ft with good cables
01:09 PM CaptHindsight: https://sourceforge.net/p/emc/mailman/message/32762716/
01:10 PM BeachBumPete: any suggestions for a mount for this 5i25 board sitting vertically?
01:11 PM CaptHindsight: PCI card?
01:12 PM BeachBumPete: yeah the 5i25
01:12 PM BeachBumPete: stdby
01:12 PM CaptHindsight: not sure what you mean by vertically?
01:13 PM CaptHindsight: something other than perpendicular to the MB?
01:13 PM BeachBumPete: http://i.imgur.com/qwAaOy4.jpg
01:14 PM CaptHindsight: no case
01:15 PM BeachBumPete: nope no case
01:15 PM CaptHindsight: make a bracket
01:15 PM BeachBumPete: yeah that is what I am talking about anybody made a neat bracket for this?
01:16 PM CaptHindsight: I've also used short ~2" PCI socket extender cables to mount the boards parallel to the MB
01:16 PM CaptHindsight: if you know someone with a mill they could make one :)
01:17 PM BeachBumPete: ya you are a funny guy my friend a FUNNY GUY
01:19 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.computerpartsaz.us/azpcicardbracket
01:25 PM BeachBumPete: what is this PCI socket extender you speak of? Could I mount the thing alongside the MB then?
01:28 PM BeachBumPete: does it mount the board somehow?
01:33 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.precisionmicro.net/index.php?mod=category&sub=category&CategoryID=4&page=3
01:34 PM CaptHindsight: you still have to make a bracket
01:35 PM CaptHindsight: but it you need lower profile, it's how to do it
01:35 PM BeachBumPete: ah well I will just make something for this setup tho. its not like I need more room
01:35 PM BeachBumPete: electronics cabinet is rather massive
01:35 PM CaptHindsight: PCIe is more flexible
01:36 PM CaptHindsight: you could use a longer cable and put a 6i25 next to the MB
01:40 PM CaptHindsight: I have chopped up old cases for parts in the past
01:40 PM CaptHindsight: or even new cheap cases
01:40 PM BeachBumPete: I would do that actually but I don't have a case just bought the components for the PC like I did for the cinci
01:41 PM CaptHindsight: you even found a MB with PCI
01:41 PM BeachBumPete: I take it you do not like that?
01:42 PM CaptHindsight: getting rare
01:42 PM BeachBumPete: This is the ASrock Q1900M Pro3
01:43 PM BeachBumPete: just bought it what a year ago or so?
01:43 PM CaptHindsight: with PCIe you can run cables several feet from board to MB
01:43 PM CaptHindsight: easily and cheaply a few inches
01:44 PM BeachBumPete: I used the 5i25/7i77 because it worked so well on my Cinci and I have had the kit for awhile
01:44 PM CaptHindsight: 6i25 would be the same
01:45 PM CaptHindsight: just FYI for the logs
01:45 PM BeachBumPete: trying to figure out how I am going to also mount this PC DC adapter setup I am using.
01:45 PM BeachBumPete: this I think is the hardest part LOL Figuring out where everything should go and how to mount it
01:47 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, lots of choices
01:48 PM CaptHindsight: then when you're done you look back and want to change things
01:49 PM BeachBumPete: hehe yep
01:49 PM CaptHindsight: reducing noise and ground loops, cooling, wiring access, etc etc
01:53 PM CaptHindsight: oh riots on the news
01:55 PM BeachBumPete: I am just gonna use some of that red 3m Double sided tape to secure the Kingston SSD
01:56 PM CaptHindsight: brackets for those are easy to find
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: 2.5" from factor or?
01:58 PM BeachBumPete: yeah but it is just a plastic cased SDD very easy to mount this way and honestly the foam tape might actually abosrb some vibrations
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: no moving parts anyway
01:58 PM evilren: vhb that shit!
01:59 PM CaptHindsight: keep it cool
01:59 PM evilren: could carry your whole pc around by the ssd
01:59 PM BeachBumPete: vhb?
01:59 PM evilren: 3m very high bond
01:59 PM BeachBumPete: yeah that is what I have
02:00 PM evilren: they make double sticky tape with it
02:00 PM BeachBumPete: great stuff I use it a lot on my quadcopters/tinywhoops
02:00 PM evilren: are you sure? they make other double sticky
02:00 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.3m.com/3M/en_US/company-us/all-3m-products/~/All-3M-Products/Adhesives-Tapes/Industrial-Adhesives-and-Tapes/Double-Sided-Bonding-Tapes/3M-VHB-Tapes/
02:00 PM evilren: yeah cars are put together with it
02:01 PM CaptHindsight: I still use a TIG, call me old fashioned
02:01 PM evilren: Can replace mechanical fasteners (rivets, welds, screws)
02:01 PM BeachBumPete: I think I had bought this couple rolls when I had to remount the sail panels on my old Fiero GT actually..
02:01 PM evilren: heh
02:01 PM evilren: GT had the 2m6 engine?
02:02 PM BeachBumPete: I use a tig too...but I doubt it would work well for this SSD
02:02 PM BeachBumPete: well yeah the 2.8V6
02:02 PM BeachBumPete: I have actually had 3 of them
02:02 PM evilren: that was the the cutest engine ever
02:02 PM evilren: v6 like the size of a puppy
02:02 PM BeachBumPete: it was a decent motor but suffered from oiling issues and not much for modifications
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: washing machine :)
02:03 PM BeachBumPete: it was good for the car/time but there are far better options out there now
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: they also lasted too long
02:03 PM BeachBumPete: most people think the car should have had a v8 but I personally feel that would have killed the cars fun factor
02:04 PM CaptHindsight: like the other composite and aluminum vehicles
02:04 PM BeachBumPete: composite and aluminum?
02:06 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Pontiac-Fiero-GT-/112514207983
02:07 PM BeachBumPete: Love that little car ;)
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: awful paint though
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: http://i.ebayimg.com/images/g/ZhgAAOSwEIhZfgBn/s-l1600.jpg
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: I've never seen that much orange peel
02:08 PM BeachBumPete: just FYI there was almost NO aluminum in that car LOL
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: composite cars, aluminum cars
02:09 PM BeachBumPete: the body was composites mostly the hood, roof, decklid, etc... but the entire spaceframe was steel welded
02:10 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.ebay.com/itm/1986-Pontiac-Fiero-SE/152658891530 converted to convertible and now selling
02:12 PM BeachBumPete: they actually sold some convertibles they had to have significant bracing under the car because the space frame was not really designed for this.
02:13 PM CaptHindsight: bbl
02:14 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8
02:16 PM malcom2073: Lol, "asking 3200 or best offer"
02:22 PM BeachBumPete: damn when that shit sticks down it ain't movin' ;)
02:24 PM BeachBumPete: thats actually not a bad price really..
03:22 PM BeachBumPete: http://i.imgur.com/eO0tAgu.jpg taking shape ;)
04:23 PM Deejay: gn8
04:25 PM BeachBumPete: http://i.imgur.com/CCmqqRp.jpg Look at all this ACREAGE!! LOL
04:33 PM BeachBumPete: http://i.imgur.com/MXrU9U1.jpg :)
04:43 PM tiwake: cant wait till I get my hardinge CNC lathe
04:44 PM BeachBumPete: ooh nice
04:44 PM BeachBumPete: can't wait til my CNC lathe actually runs LOL
04:48 PM gloops: 2 days and cant get the motors turning, i hate electronics!
04:58 PM Tom_itx: BeachBumPete, you need a bigger box
04:58 PM BeachBumPete: uh no
04:58 PM BeachBumPete: trying to decide where things go here
04:59 PM BeachBumPete: in that photo the main board is at the top left of the board
04:59 PM BeachBumPete: DC power supply which will be doing a lot of work in this app is center right
04:59 PM BeachBumPete: drives lower left
04:59 PM BeachBumPete: spindle drive will be down near the bottom
04:59 PM BeachBumPete: main power will come in from the bottom
05:01 PM Tom_itx: i'm glad i put some fuse blocks on the din rail
05:01 PM BeachBumPete: only problem is that the original control had the main power switch on the top right of the board and if I want to use it again power will need to be run up that way
05:02 PM BeachBumPete: I have the original fuse blocks and din rails here
05:02 PM BeachBumPete: I am planning to install another din rail somewhere underneath the 7i77 board to add the fuses and the power distribution blocks I am ordering.
05:02 PM BeachBumPete: open to suggestions...
05:03 PM Tom_itx: a couple strips for 5v, 24v or whatever else you'll have
05:04 PM Tom_itx: i used the ones from pcw
05:04 PM BeachBumPete: the power supply there is 24v and we are using it to power the PC using that DC power supply setup you can see in the top of the main board.
05:05 PM BeachBumPete: I was planning to use buck boards for the 5v
05:05 PM Tom_itx: i did too but i put a strip on to feed wires to
05:05 PM BeachBumPete: not sure what you mean
05:10 PM Tom_itx: i can never find it when i want to
05:11 PM BeachBumPete: the power supply is a larger one than necessary
05:11 PM Tom_itx: so is mine
05:12 PM BeachBumPete: I have the cables for the motors and whatnot
05:12 PM BeachBumPete: still waiting on the drive to 7i77 cable so I can cut and splice it.
05:12 PM BeachBumPete: Lost the damn link that Adam had posted to me ARGH
05:13 PM Adamj12b-mobile: BeachBumPete what link?
05:14 PM BeachBumPete: the link to the cable you sent me you used to cut and splice into the 7i77
05:14 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Oo. Need it again or did you find something else?
05:15 PM BeachBumPete: nope dont have it and if you have it again that would be great
05:16 PM BeachBumPete: Adamj12b-mobile any input on my photos there? working on the layout :)
05:16 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Gladly! Ill do one better. https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1ING7QduGnB7hOzk42IfpgGcSQwpyP1MEIpkK8jmsOGQ/edit?usp=drivesdk
05:17 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Links, and pinout
05:17 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I didnt see them. When did you link them? Ill check the archive.
05:18 PM BeachBumPete: stby
05:18 PM BeachBumPete: http://i.imgur.com/CCmqqRp.jpg
05:19 PM Tom_itx: is that a 5i25?
05:19 PM Tom_itx: what daughter card..
05:19 PM BeachBumPete: yeah 5i25/7i77
05:19 PM Tom_itx: servo?
05:20 PM BeachBumPete: Adamj12b-mobile thanks for that link. The pinout is awesome too but did you have the signal setup I am sure I can get it from the drives manuals but just in case ;)
05:20 PM BeachBumPete: Tom_itx Of course man :)
05:20 PM Tom_itx: JT-Shop, do you have those little terminal strips pcw makes?
05:21 PM BeachBumPete: are you talking about the din rail mount strips for the 7i77?
05:21 PM Tom_itx: not the mounts
05:21 PM Tom_itx: it's a screw terminal strip for GND,5v or whatever
05:21 PM BeachBumPete: oh neat
05:21 PM Tom_itx: but i can never find em
05:22 PM Tom_itx: it's split in half
05:22 PM Tom_itx: half gnd half V+
05:22 PM BeachBumPete: trying to determine what kind of cables to use to get the power to the 24vdc pps
05:23 PM Tom_itx: how many wires?
05:23 PM BeachBumPete: I mean just the inputs
05:24 PM BeachBumPete: Tom_itx I would love to see photos of a setup using the DC power supply for the main board etc..
05:25 PM Tom_itx: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/cnc/psu/control8.jpg
05:25 PM Tom_itx: it's a bit different now
05:26 PM Tom_itx: the 5v reg is upper left
05:26 PM gloops is now known as Goodlord
05:26 PM Tom_itx: the middle heatsink is 24v from the centertap of one of the xfrmrs
05:26 PM Adamj12b-mobile: BeachBumPete I will add the signal names and the encoder pinout.
05:26 PM Tom_itx: could have made that a bit neater but only a couple components to get it
05:27 PM Tom_itx: and i really need to add another mesa board in there somewhere
05:28 PM JT-Shop: Tom_itx: https://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70&product_id=90
05:28 PM JT-Shop: that one?
05:28 PM Tom_itx: that's the one, BeachBumPete
05:28 PM Tom_itx: JT-Shop, plan on sending pete some :D
05:28 PM Goodlord: what is the best supply for 5v for a breakout board?
05:28 PM Tom_itx: smps
05:28 PM Tom_itx: cheap chinese for like 2 bux
05:29 PM Goodlord: that to me Tom?
05:29 PM Tom_itx: was so
05:29 PM Goodlord: ok thanks ill look on ebay
05:29 PM Tom_itx: JT-Shop, kept searching for terminal block and nothing came up
05:29 PM Goodlord: first time setting up some nema 23s cannot get motors turning
05:30 PM Tom_itx: we can
05:31 PM Goodlord: what amps 3.5? or higher
05:32 PM Goodlord: i got power to the motors, just not getting signals i dont think, maybe parallel port or cable or something
05:32 PM JT-Shop: Tom_itx: terminal blocks are in the surplus section
05:32 PM Tom_itx: anybody got a penny to spare? http://www.ebay.com/itm/3-3V-5V-12V-19V-24V-5A-Adjustable-DC-DC-Buck-Step-Down-Regulator-Power-Module-/192271403170?hash=item2cc444c8a2:g:fdAAAOSwySFZg6r7
05:33 PM Goodlord: lol i didnt see anything like that, im on uk ebay though
05:33 PM Tom_itx: that's kinda what you're after
05:34 PM Tom_itx: that and a couple of those terminal strips JT-Shop linked
05:34 PM Tom_itx: oh excuse me... common block :)
05:35 PM Goodlord: ive tried a phone charger and also run a cable from ATX standby from PC, it lights up but dont know if signal is working
05:36 PM Tom_itx: what power supply are you using?
05:37 PM Goodlord: 36v pack that came with the kit - to the drivers
05:37 PM Tom_itx: kit tells me nothing
05:37 PM Goodlord: S-350-36
05:38 PM Tom_itx: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Mean-Well/SE-350-36/?qs=erfQA2AIGbV1YuvL2UMX3g%3D%3D
05:38 PM Tom_itx: that?
05:38 PM BeachBumPete: Thanks Adam and tom
05:38 PM Goodlord: yes thats it
05:39 PM Tom_itx: BeachBumPete, don't forget din mounts :)
05:39 PM BeachBumPete: crazy right here now got a guy coming to buy my grandmothers car and just had dinner set in front of me.
05:39 PM BeachBumPete: Tom_itx is that not what you were talking about?
05:39 PM Tom_itx: i wound up going to my local delta dealer to get fuseblocks etc
05:39 PM BeachBumPete: I went ahead and drilled and tapped for the standoffs to the 7i77 instead of using din rail mounts
05:39 PM Tom_itx: BeachBumPete, the link JT-Shop gave is what i meant
05:40 PM Tom_itx: i started out with standoffs too but went with din rail now
05:40 PM Tom_itx: i think you'll be glad you did
05:40 PM BeachBumPete: is that just a continuous block
05:40 PM Tom_itx: yeah
05:40 PM BeachBumPete: so you put it in on the ends and tap out to what you need then?
05:40 PM Tom_itx: it's split in half though signal wise
05:40 PM BeachBumPete: OK BB in a bit.
05:40 PM Tom_itx: i put the in in the middle
05:40 PM Tom_itx: so not to confuse where the split was
06:08 PM Adamj12b-mobile: andypugh Taking that out made a huge difference. I've almost got the Y tuned.
06:09 PM andypugh: Which version of LinuxCNC are you using? That max-error entry really is a nasty bug.
06:09 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Using the live distro. 2.7.9 I believe.
06:09 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I can verify when i get home.
06:12 PM Adamj12b-mobile: At the bottom of HAL scope, there is 3 different readings when you move your cursor over the plot, but I cant find anything says what is what. I believe the middle one might be error in units?
06:17 PM andypugh: The first number is the timestamp relative to the trigger, the second is that value of the selected channel and the third is the rate of change of the selected channel.
06:17 PM Goodlord: any suggestions for this, nema 23s, db25 breakout board, standard chinese drivers, board is lit, drivers are lit, so far as i can see software is config ok, motors not turning, have changed 4 wires round, motors go from free to buzzing if i try turning them, what else can i look for?
06:18 PM Goodlord: parallel port is enabled
06:22 PM Tom_itx: could be miswired steppers or maybe step timing
06:23 PM Goodlord: well have had wires in every slot possible haha
06:23 PM Goodlord: step timing?
06:23 PM BeachBumPete: OK back again
06:24 PM Goodlord: its like no signal is getting through at all, i guess ill have to get one of those meter things
06:24 PM andypugh: Goodlord: What step timing do you have? Are you sure you have the step and direction wires the right way round? Also, try inverting the step signals.
06:25 PM BeachBumPete: that reads funy
06:25 PM BeachBumPete: funny
06:25 PM BeachBumPete: GOODLORD what step timing do you have LOL
06:25 PM Goodlord: have shut it down now will have a quick look when it boots up
06:26 PM Goodlord: oh yeah, motor is buzzing while its booting up lol
06:30 PM Goodlord: step pulse / dir pulse?
06:31 PM Goodlord: bbiab
06:38 PM BeachBumPete: Ok so the parallel cable is on order... now to look for those power distribution blocks ;)
06:39 PM Tom_itx: https://mesaus.com/index.php?route=product/product&path=70&product_id=90
06:39 PM BeachBumPete: I saw that no I mean AC power blocks
06:40 PM Tom_itx: screw blocks?
06:40 PM BeachBumPete: I cannot remember where I bought the damn things
06:40 PM BeachBumPete: the place gives you a candy bar with every purchase ;)
06:40 PM Tom_itx: http://www.mouser.com/ProductDetail/Molex/38720-6204/?qs=92PpRWlfdprN85%2FueVtkbg%3D%3D&gclid=EAIaIQobChMIm4K9sujS1QIVWbXACh14QwN2EAQYBCABEgLLNPD_BwE
06:40 PM Tom_itx: like that only 2 row?
06:42 PM Tom_itx: i must be gettin stuff from the wrong place cause i never got no candy bar :(
06:42 PM BeachBumPete: I know right
06:42 PM BeachBumPete: I am trying to find the place
06:43 PM BeachBumPete: sometimes you get this neat screwdriver kit sometimes the candy bar
06:43 PM Tom_itx: headin out to the shop to see what i can blow up tonight
06:48 PM BeachBumPete: http://www.galco.com/
06:49 PM BeachBumPete: http://www.galco.com/shop/Distribution-Block-Power-Distribution-Blocks
06:49 PM BeachBumPete: something like this
06:51 PM rpifan: hello
07:13 PM Adamj12b-mobile: BeachBumPete Did you see what I did for power block?
07:13 PM BeachBumPete: Adamj12b-mobile no I dont think so
07:14 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Stand by
07:15 PM Adamj12b-mobile: https://goo.gl/photos/GZ54tsxdpLKTJXYp7
07:16 PM Adamj12b-mobile: https://goo.gl/photos/dXtgvoer2My8arrH8
07:16 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Yellow is 5v+, black is common and red is 24v+
07:17 PM Adamj12b-mobile: The terminal blocks are modular and you join them with those little connectors in the middle.
07:17 PM Adamj12b-mobile: They are made by Allen Bradley
07:17 PM BeachBumPete: I see that
07:17 PM BeachBumPete: looks nice
07:17 PM BeachBumPete: how come there are not two large input wires?
07:20 PM Adamj12b-mobile: 5v supply is good for 3A and 24v supply is good for 4.2A both of which are easily handled by a 18awg wire.
07:20 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Even the sum of 7.2A can be handled by the common. But each supply has a full path to the distro blocks.
07:22 PM BeachBumPete: Oops I thought you said the red was 220v or whatever sorry for the confusion
07:23 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Haha
07:24 PM BeachBumPete: I am talking about my main power inputs. The 24v PPS will receive the 220 inputs and then that output will go into another set of distribution blocks
07:25 PM Adamj12b-mobile: https://goo.gl/photos/3LVqZh2UdyEDavxr8
07:25 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Oo ok sorry.
07:30 PM BeachBumPete: I will be using a contactor like that to control the power to the drives and also tie it into the estop circuit
07:30 PM BeachBumPete: basically the same thing I have on my Cincinatti
07:35 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I have one for the servos and one for the spindle. Both are currently controlled by e stop out from lcnc.
07:37 PM BeachBumPete: one of the things I wanted to ensure with my Cinci build was that the estop system was entirely outside of linuxCNC with the exception of the input to let it know the status. If I hit estop all power is removed from the drive side of the drives logic still has power and the PC stays on but everything powering the movements of the machine is dead
07:37 PM BeachBumPete: ...
07:39 PM Adamj12b-mobile: That makes sense. The way I have it, if the watchdog bites, power is shut off.
07:40 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I think I want to change some things now that ibhave used it a bit.
07:41 PM BeachBumPete: I need to break out the CAD drawing I have of the Cinci's system and refresh myself with how it is wired. Basically it has three relays that work with the estop switches and limits etc...
07:46 PM BeachBumPete: Adamj12b-mobile I just wanted to say that I appreciate your assistance with this. Thank you for the links etc. I am just not trying to place everything on the board but once I get the new cable and thess distribution blocks I will be tearing into it pretty heavily.
07:50 PM XXCoder: BeachBumPete: saw interesting trick of using e-stop to override stepper signals with whatever voltage + so it stops moving
07:51 PM XXCoder: but not depowered
07:52 PM BeachBumPete: nice but I don't use steppers ;)
07:53 PM * XXCoder points at BeachBumPete with weird expression from that pod people movie
07:53 PM BeachBumPete: jeez I cant seem to login to galco to see my old orders GAAAaaahhh
07:53 PM BeachBumPete: XXCoder you are one strange bird ma
07:54 PM XXCoder: I'm not an weird person
07:54 PM XXCoder: im the weird person
07:54 PM BeachBumPete: well at least its not news to you hehehe
07:54 PM XXCoder: :)
07:54 PM BeachBumPete: I managed to sell my grandmothers old car she left us when she passed today
07:55 PM BeachBumPete: we don't need it and it was taking up space in the driveway
07:55 PM BeachBumPete: so now I got a wad O cash and gotta figure out what to do with it :)
07:55 PM XXCoder: oh easy
07:55 PM XXCoder: send it to me
07:55 PM malcom2073: Nono, send it to me
07:55 PM malcom2073: Or beter yet, just go buy more machines
07:55 PM XXCoder: sorry man i called it first
07:56 PM BeachBumPete: I MAY use it to help pay for the spindle drive LOL
07:56 PM XXCoder: seriously look around see if house needs something fixed, if nothing maybe save for future or machine
07:59 PM Tom_L: BeachBumPete, what was it a 69 cuda?
07:59 PM Adamj12b-mobile: BeachBumPete happy to help.
07:59 PM XXCoder: or one of those tuckers heh
08:00 PM BeachBumPete: hell man if it was it would still be here LOL
08:00 PM Tom_L: :)
08:00 PM BeachBumPete: no it was some kinda buick POS
08:00 PM BeachBumPete: my wife actually drove it when we first got here because we sold her car up north
08:00 PM BeachBumPete: but we have since bought her a nice SUV so its gone now
08:02 PM XXCoder: nice
08:02 PM BeachBumPete: now I gotta figure out what email address I used for that damn website a few years back when I built the Cinci
08:02 PM XXCoder: i like my ford focus 2012
08:03 PM BeachBumPete: thinking of selling my Astro van to try to get into a clean used 4x4 excursion so I can tow a boat ;)
08:04 PM andypugh: XXCoder: What engine does your Focus have? (I doubt I can claim any credit)
08:05 PM XXCoder: umm dunno
08:05 PM XXCoder: its nicer version of low end
08:24 PM Adamj12b-mobile: andypugh It was suggested earlier in the week that I increase the speed on the servo loop to 4khz. I am seeing alot of rt errors saying to check dmesg, and watchdog bites. I tried slowing it down 1khz at a time and ended up back at 1khz loop frequency. Do you think this will be ok still?
08:25 PM andypugh: Probably. I have only ever run at 1kHz
08:26 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Ok. Good to know. Thanks
09:25 PM Tom_itx is now known as Tom_L
09:25 PM Tom_L: ok at least the spindle driver is still good
09:25 PM Tom_L: apparently a relay stuck
10:13 PM Adamj12b-mobile: BeachBumPete So i got to experience what happened tuning your z tonight.
10:14 PM BeachBumPete: Oh yeah I'm sorry for you LOL
10:14 PM Adamj12b-mobile: About 1" travel at a 5hz rate. Really shoot the house.
10:16 PM BeachBumPete: its eye opening
10:20 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Yea!
10:21 PM BeachBumPete: at least with this lathe build the axes are all horizontal ;)
10:23 PM Adamj12b-mobile: What size are the servos?
10:23 PM BeachBumPete: 1kw
10:24 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Oo same ones!
10:25 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I could have gone with a bit bigger on the mill.
10:25 PM BeachBumPete: one is 750
10:25 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Or i need to change out the 2:1 belt reduction to 1:1...
10:26 PM Adamj12b-mobile: They Don't have enough power to keep the error down over 250ipm rapid.
10:26 PM Adamj12b-mobile: I was hoping for 300ipm.
10:26 PM BeachBumPete: the millhead on the Cinci is rather heavy and direct driven but the ballscrew ratio is good for it
10:27 PM BeachBumPete: what error do you mean?
10:28 PM Adamj12b-mobile: So if I watch the f-error i can keep it super low unless i start going over 255ipm.
10:28 PM BeachBumPete: what RPM are your motors?
10:28 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Motors top out at 3000
10:29 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Whats the screw ratio?
10:29 PM BeachBumPete: I don't recall offhand
10:29 PM BeachBumPete: its been several years now since I did all of that
10:30 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Gotcha. Do you remember what size servo?
10:30 PM Adamj12b-mobile: The Fryer has 5tpi screws.
10:32 PM BeachBumPete: you might try to see if they sell a 1kRPM motor of the same power
10:33 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Ok just looked it up. 1500 rated 3000 max.
10:34 PM Adamj12b-mobile: They sell 2 larger ones 1.3 and 1.8kw. Bith require a more powerful amplifier
10:34 PM Adamj12b-mobile: Same rpm rating
10:35 PM BeachBumPete: the teco motors I used on the cinci were available in the 1k or 3k RPM and I probably should have gone with the 1k for the Z but I did some calculations and well I went with more RPM thinking I wanted the speed. It would have been more than fast enough with the slower motor and had more torque but it works okay for me.