Jul 30 2017
02:11 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Germany
02:33 AM Deejay: moin
03:44 AM archivist: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mitutoyo-B231-manual-CMM-fitted-with-Metrolog-X4-software-/253061488512
03:45 AM XXCoder: dang thats cheap
03:45 AM XXCoder: too bad its million miles away lol
03:46 AM archivist: used CMMs are getting a lot cheaper
03:46 AM XXCoder: yeah new generation of cmms is replacing em I guess, or more companies going under
03:47 AM XXCoder: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Tokyo-Beoeki-1615J-DCC-CNC-Horizontal-Arm-CMM-/172794297804 lol now thats very bad picture...
03:47 AM archivist: that is manual, I suppose most are going to automatic machines
03:48 AM XXCoder: yeah nobody wants it apparently. $100 :P
03:48 AM XXCoder: might be bec its new entry tho
03:48 AM archivist: that is big and heavy
03:49 AM archivist: cheap for a lump of granite with a flat top
03:51 AM XXCoder: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Brown-and-Sharpe-Validator-CMM-Coordinate-Measuring-Machine-with-Air-Dryer-/162606148788 lol
03:52 AM XXCoder: too bad I dont need nor have room for one, this may well last maybe a year or 2 then old cmms runs out
03:52 AM archivist: mine came without the air dryer
03:53 AM archivist: they probably have one for all the CMMs in the room
03:54 AM XXCoder: whats air dryer do anyway? or is it literally keep air dry around it?
03:55 AM LeelooMinai: lol "A leading psychiatric group has decided that they are going to lift a rule that prevented psychiatrists from speaking out publicly about the mental health of public figures – including the President."
03:56 AM archivist: when air is compressed it becomes more humid in percentage terms and condenses where you dont want it, so you dry the air
03:56 AM XXCoder: ahh yeah that. tanks has drains at bottom for that, and theres air dryer kits to get rid of water. so that thing is just bigger version to dry air INTAKE?
04:00 AM archivist: some are at pressure
04:01 AM XXCoder: ok
04:01 AM XXCoder: if you has one maybe you can offer secondary servcie of digitalizing 3d models
04:03 AM archivist: the software on the control is all about testing an item to spec not digitising
04:03 AM XXCoder: hmm no way to adopt?
04:03 AM archivist: put linuxcnc on it
04:04 AM XXCoder: hm yeah
04:57 AM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FzkX-6GSYrc
04:57 AM XXCoder: wow.
04:57 AM XXCoder: yo
05:26 AM phipli: morning
05:26 AM jthornton: morning
05:26 AM phipli: still up?
05:26 AM phipli: must be late?
05:27 AM phipli: *early
05:27 AM XXCoder: yesno
05:27 AM jthornton: almost 5am
05:27 AM XXCoder: almost 3 am here
05:28 AM archivist: nearly 2nd coffee time
05:28 AM phipli: I just realised that it was gone three when I went to bed last night, so can't really comment
05:29 AM jthornton: flew the S500 again last night tried out 2d Hold but need to work on the gain for altitude hold
05:33 AM phipli: what are the hold sensors? you mentioned gps
05:33 AM phipli: does it have optical stuff?
05:34 AM phipli: I've heard of people using computer mouse sensors with a different lens
05:38 AM jthornton: it has a pressure sensor and uses the GPS I think
05:43 AM jthornton: Built-in altimeter, IMU, and magnetic compass
05:45 AM jthornton: I'm guessing that an IMU is not an underground oven in Hawaii but a Internal Measurment Unit
05:45 AM XXCoder: lol watching old myfordboy video
05:45 AM XXCoder: wow stuff is bit crude as it pre-dates his making new kiln and that melt carry thingy
05:46 AM XXCoder: yet that same things looks quite worn in new video
05:51 AM phipli: quadcopters are getting so much cheaper
05:51 AM XXCoder: not a surpise really
05:51 AM XXCoder: its easy to make essentally
05:51 AM phipli: for $50 you can get quite something with way more features / tech than any of mine
05:51 AM jthornton: yea $40 for the S500
05:53 AM phipli: where did you get it?
05:53 AM phipli: I can only see the frame on banggood
05:53 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fZM_wIsjUI8 next up get the 680 flying
05:55 AM jthornton: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01MZ6BV61
05:56 AM XXCoder: that is pretty still
06:07 AM jthornton: yea I need to try out loiter mode but I'm waiting on an extra GPS cable so I can get telemetry back to the Taranis transmitter
06:12 AM jthornton: yea I got the frame from amazon this is the plastic landing gear version https://www.banggood.com/S500-PCB-Frame-Kit-w-Landing-Gear-for-FPV-Gopro-Gimbal-F450-Upgrade-p-953292.html
06:13 AM XXCoder: wonder if it can be milled out heh
06:14 AM XXCoder: considering good percentage of people here is machinists :P
06:14 AM jthornton: the frame or arms?
06:15 AM XXCoder: both
06:17 AM jthornton: the pcb board also serves as the PDB so that would be hard to do but for $40 you just screw it together
06:21 AM jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7njM3xWMs8E
06:21 AM XXCoder: lol ok
06:23 AM XXCoder: I always wondered about this
06:23 AM XXCoder: \can quad be programmed to go to location, aim camera and take picture at say sam time everyday
06:23 AM XXCoder: so can make sped up video of overall terrain. 365 flights lol
06:25 AM phipli: do you think this one would be fun? : https://www.banggood.com/VISUO-XS809HW-WIFI-FPV-With-Wide-Angle-HD-Camera-High-Hold-Mode-Foldable-Arm-RC-Quadcopter-RTF-p-1149086.html?rmmds=cart
06:26 AM phipli: quads must be great for farming
06:26 AM phipli: checking on herds etc.
06:26 AM XXCoder: know what phipli
06:26 AM XXCoder: theres people at other countries thats planing tree seeds everywhere
06:27 AM XXCoder: it was too big a project for people to do
06:27 AM XXCoder: but drones sure
06:27 AM XXCoder: randomly throw seeds everywhere
06:27 AM phipli: :)
06:27 AM phipli: I hear you can tell a lot about the health of plants by looking at them in either uv or infrared
06:27 AM phipli: (forget which)
06:27 AM XXCoder: good question
06:28 AM phipli: http://hackaday.com/2013/07/03/seeing-plant-health-in-infrared/
06:28 AM jthornton: 900mAh battery in that one won't last long
06:28 AM phipli: they sell packs of 3 for £15
06:28 AM XXCoder: jt too bad theres nothing more effecient weight wise
06:31 AM XXCoder: lol https://www.amazon.com/START-Digital-Thermometer-Probe-Celsius/dp/B01EQW1VNM/
06:32 AM XXCoder: use this to hack up some pid heat device
06:32 AM XXCoder: or cooling
06:32 AM XXCoder: say if room is hotter than outside, vent air in
06:32 AM XXCoder: (or vent in lower and higher in window vent outside
06:37 AM phipli: I've got something like this for more complex things : https://www.banggood.com/REX-C100-110-240V-400-Degree-Digital-PID-Temperature-Controller-Kit-with-1300-Degree-Probe-p-965589.html?rmmds=search
06:38 AM phipli: if it is the right one, it is self learning
06:38 AM XXCoder: its all in one kit?
06:39 AM phipli: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/162499826473
06:39 AM XXCoder: that things awesome but also waaaay overkill lol
06:39 AM phipli: that second one is great for simple stuff
06:39 AM archivist: my imitation rex failed
06:40 AM phipli: SSR + thermocouple + PID controller in one kit for the first one, yes
06:40 AM XXCoder: -50c to 110c nice range
06:40 AM XXCoder: from dead to dead. perfect
06:40 AM phipli: archivist: how much work did it do first?
06:40 AM archivist: er not a lot
06:40 AM phipli: did the controller, or the relay go?
06:40 AM archivist: controller
06:40 AM phipli: I never quite trust those relays...
06:40 AM phipli: shame
06:41 AM phipli: I'll have to dig mine out and give it some work to do
06:41 AM archivist: I found an old honeywell here and used that
06:41 AM phipli: currently my conservatory ventilation is just regulated by an arduino and a ds18b20
06:41 AM phipli: clearly it needs PID
06:42 AM archivist: http://www.collection.archivist.info/searchv13.php?searchstr=bluing+kiln+PD
06:42 AM phipli: for hardening things?
06:42 AM archivist: bluing
06:43 AM archivist: make pretty like http://www.collection.archivist.info/archive/DJCPD/PD/2002/2002_09_18_Wheelcutting/P9190292.JPG
06:43 AM phipli: what temperatures could you get?
06:44 AM archivist: set point is 315 deg c iirc
06:44 AM XXCoder: nice
06:44 AM XXCoder: love it when product has a frowny in it https://www.amazon.com/XUANOU-Convenient-Display-Thermometer-Humidity/dp/B01N2202R0/
06:45 AM archivist: while I got one of those SSRs it still has a large magnetic contactor
06:46 AM phipli: I'd use one of those SSRs for something that switched a lot and presented a reasonable resistive load
06:47 AM phipli: but I'd want a fall back if it was something like a heater
06:47 AM archivist: a heater is resistive
06:47 AM phipli: that is what I was saying
06:47 AM malcom2073_: I had a chinese SSR fail closed on a heater
06:47 AM phipli: sorry, being unclear
06:47 AM malcom2073_: Definently put a temp cutout on it
06:48 AM phipli: malcom2073_: yeah - it is great that they're so cheap... but sometimes it makes you worry
06:48 AM archivist: the noise of the contactor tells me how close it is to working temp
06:48 AM malcom2073_: Yeah, I think buying a name brand temperature cutout would make it alright
06:48 AM malcom2073_: only half the enclosure melted before I caught it though, so it's ok :P
06:49 AM phipli: malcom2073_: user interface alert feature : smell of molten plastic
06:49 AM malcom2073_: phipli: value added feature
06:49 AM malcom2073_: :-D
06:49 AM phipli: :)
06:49 AM malcom2073_: Or just spend the $30 and buy name brand
06:49 AM malcom2073_: for your SSR
06:51 AM jthornton: hmm I think I'll just hook up the VTX and see if it works without a camera to give me the OSD
07:01 AM archivist: spot the missing hex cap screw http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Beautystar-CNC-Router-Machine-3-Axis-DIY-CNC-Engraving-Machine-PCB-Milling-Mach-/372017746477
07:02 AM XXCoder: lol
07:02 AM XXCoder: that seem to be new standard, I got crossbow and it was missing 3 screws
07:30 AM XXCoder: enjoy. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YgJBD1wf-YQ
07:30 AM XXCoder: off to bed I go
07:45 AM phipli: I should go and look at that lift sometime
08:04 AM JT-Shop: lift?
08:06 AM phipli: "elevator"
08:07 AM phipli: XXCoder's video
08:07 AM phipli: it isn't far from here
08:08 AM archivist: I recommend riding the Anderton Boat lift :)
08:09 AM phipli: is that a falkirk wheel?
08:09 AM archivist: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Anderton_Boat_Lift
08:09 AM phipli: some friends made a model falkirk wheel a few years back in a workshop skills course
08:10 AM phipli: ah, that one. there was a poster of it in the news this week
08:10 AM archivist: been and looked around that but not ridden it
08:10 AM JT-Shop: ah they have similar lifts over here for valet parking guys except it is just a step and a hand hold
08:11 AM phipli: JT-Shop: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Falkirk_Wheel
08:11 AM JT-Shop: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7KzEAs3Yclg
08:12 AM JT-Shop: cool
08:37 AM phipli: Right. "P"CB cutting time
08:37 AM phipli: need to add a remote spindle control relay to my chinese cnc
08:40 AM JT-Shop: phipli: I did find out when to start looking for eggs and they are not mature enough yet :(
08:43 AM phipli: 16 to 20 weeks?
08:43 AM phipli: some later
08:43 AM phipli: ours are starting to not kill each other on sight
08:43 AM JT-Shop: they say 16-24 weeks for RIR and Rocks
08:43 AM phipli: but the small ones are still having a bit of a rough time
08:45 AM phipli: the bully is going to have so many regrets when the young ones grow up bigger than her
08:45 AM JT-Shop: so as I understand two things show they are ready to start laying, red comb and waddle and when you press on their back they squat instead of running
08:45 AM phipli: yeah
08:45 AM phipli: they don't always squat
08:45 AM phipli: sometimes they run anyway :)
08:45 AM phipli: but they never squat when they're pre-laying
08:45 AM JT-Shop: I've mastered holding them quietly now :)
08:46 AM phipli: you know how cats sometimes distort themselves under your hand to avoid being stroked?
08:46 AM phipli: chickens do that sometimes
08:46 AM phipli: we refer to it as "hover chicken"
08:51 AM JT-Shop: now doing a "chicken check" has an entirely new meaning lol as it used to mean doing something with no tools in the lathe or mill
08:54 AM phipli: Perhaps you could combine the two?
08:54 AM phipli: train a chicken to check the lathe or mill?
08:57 AM JT-Shop: I've got Henry trained to run at full speed when he see me carrying either the dried mealworms or cricket container
09:00 AM phipli: :)
09:06 AM phipli: http://elephantandchicken.co.uk/misc/speceating.jpg
09:08 AM archivist: wrong the bird has you trained to bring the grub
09:09 AM phipli: :)
09:09 AM phipli: JT's don't even give eggs in return!
09:10 AM phipli: nor will Henry ever do so!
09:53 AM * phipli wishes he had some slip gauges to hand...
09:54 AM * archivist hides his box of them
09:54 AM phipli: :)
09:54 AM phipli: its ok archivist I've muddled through
09:54 AM phipli: turns out the tool was exactly, you'll never believe this...
09:55 AM phipli: the height of one cable tie trimming from the piece of work!
09:55 AM phipli: (dimensions may not be too critical as I'm just drilling through atm)
09:55 AM archivist: that is nearasdammit
09:55 AM phipli: exactly :)
09:56 AM phipli: spent five minutes flailing trying to find something in the right ballpark for the unexpected mid process tool change
10:10 AM JT-Shop: my neighbor said I was lucky to get 5 hens and 1 rooster, she got 4 chicks once and 3 were roosters!
10:36 AM phipli: yes, it can be quite hit and miss
10:36 AM phipli: part of the reason we get older birds than you did
10:36 AM phipli: also why certain breeds are popular - some breeds the male and females are different colours when they're chicks
10:37 AM phipli: so you know straight away
10:38 AM JT-Shop: mine looked like little fuzz balls with legs and a beak when I brought them home lol
10:38 AM phipli: :)
10:39 AM phipli: our older chickens are stupidly adorable - they follow you around at your heels when you're in the garden
10:39 AM phipli: I accidentally kicked on the other day because it was about 1mm from my foot when I turned around
10:40 AM phipli: it looked quite put out
10:40 AM phipli: *one
10:42 AM JT-Shop: got the VTX and OSD working and got 8 gps sats inside my shop1
10:42 AM JT-Shop: !
10:44 AM JT-Shop: yea they do sneak up on you sometimes
10:45 AM phipli: 8 inside?
10:45 AM phipli: what is your roof made out of?
10:45 AM JT-Shop: now to figure out where to mount the VTX and still have access to the button
10:45 AM phipli: tape it to one of the legs
10:45 AM JT-Shop: 9 now it's composite (asphalt shingles)
10:46 AM phipli: no metal frame?
10:46 AM JT-Shop: the garage/shop is wood frame, the new shop is wood frame with metal skin
10:47 AM phipli: the office I work in has loads of metal in the roof
10:47 AM phipli: even mobile signal is awful
10:48 AM phipli: we were trying to set up gprs / gps dataloggers once...
10:48 AM phipli: ended up with antenna out the window
10:48 AM JT-Shop: dang the VTX gets hot while working
10:48 AM phipli: what current does it draw?
10:49 AM phipli: are you connected to it?
10:49 AM phipli: sometimes transmitters (for other things) use loads of energy while they're searching for a connection, but settle once they're connected
10:49 AM JT-Shop: 250mA at 25mW output
10:51 AM JT-Shop: range of up to 4 km with omni antenna
10:53 AM demotape: hi im looking for a tutorial to have a second Y (V) axis. could you please give me a hint
10:56 AM JT-Shop: for a ?
10:58 AM demotape: no a second Y. it is form cutter
10:59 AM demotape: XYV are the axis
10:59 AM demotape: A foam-cutting machine
11:00 AM phipli: is V angle?
11:00 AM demotape: not yet perhaps later
11:00 AM demotape: for Y and V are the same
11:00 AM demotape: but for manul ajustment i want to move them seperatly
11:00 AM JT-Shop: like to cut airfoils?
11:00 AM phipli: a hot wire machine with two wires?
11:01 AM phipli: same location in x, different in y?
11:01 AM demotape: yes phipli
11:02 AM JT-Shop: demotape: for cutting airfoils?
11:02 AM demotape: i want to cut XPS for tools
11:02 AM demotape: for a shadowboard
11:03 AM JT-Shop: yea search for linuxcnc foam on google and you will get some hits
11:03 AM demotape: i am so stupid why haven't looked for ths
11:04 AM JT-Shop: there is a foam sim for axis but it is 4 axis
11:06 AM * JT-Shop gets back to mounting the VTX and antenna
11:16 AM phipli: planning a flight with it today?
11:17 AM archivist: plan a crash, get lucky with a flight
11:19 AM JT-Shop: going to work on the inner loop PID's if I get brave...
11:19 AM JT-Shop: also want to test loiter mode
11:30 AM phipli: I think the main reason I like watching the mill drill all the through holes in a PCB is that it is so fiddly to do by hand :)
12:18 PM malcom2073_: Wait, you've done it by hand?
12:18 PM malcom2073_: That's... dedication. yeah, that's the word I'll use :P
12:36 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: we did harvest weat today
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: 40ar im so done
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: old men needs to rest
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: im off gn8
12:44 PM phipli: malcom2073_: I haven't always had a CNC - why you etch a board you have to drill by hand
12:53 PM phipli: *when
01:20 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qQrRVUarzPc How to get customers to use 50 - 100x the epoxy required when coating
01:34 PM phipli: JT-Shop: ever thought about making a wireless e-stop?
01:34 PM phipli: secondary system, not instead of
01:34 PM evilren: maybe an imaginary e-stop, too
01:35 PM phipli: Think really hard and the machine stops?
01:35 PM evilren: just just a button that doesnt do shit
01:35 PM phipli: heh
01:35 PM phipli: Something my brother made that was in a public place had a control panel
01:36 PM phipli: he put "do not press" on one button
01:36 PM phipli: and connected it to a counter out of sight
01:36 PM phipli: I can tell you, the result was terrifying
01:36 PM phipli: it was in the hundreds within 24 hours
01:38 PM CaptHindsight: I have a machine with Mach that has an imaginary e-stop
01:39 PM CaptHindsight: in fact when the application crashes the spindle turns on
01:39 PM BeachBumPete: hehehe
01:39 PM phipli: heh
01:40 PM phipli: time to invert the logic?
01:42 PM JT-Shop: phipli: no, for a estop I want wired
01:44 PM phipli: how far do you stray from your machines?
01:44 PM evilren: capthindsight: ha, fuuuuuuuuuu
01:44 PM JT-Shop: across the room usually, after I watch one part run I'm confidant in the code I don't mind doing other things while it runs
01:47 PM JT-Shop: the antenna mount I designed before my nap sucked so I'm starting over, in the mean time two zip ties are doing the job
01:47 PM BeachBumPete: so you are saying you could not design something that worked better than a pair of zipties? ;)
01:48 PM phipli: saw a car in a carpark the other day
01:48 PM phipli: neatest cable tie repair on the bumper that I've ever seen
01:48 PM JT-Shop: not on my first try lol, and the zip ties don't hold it straight but they will work for testing and setting gains
01:48 PM phipli: they'd even colour coordinated for two different colours
01:49 PM phipli: (btw bumper = fender (if I remember correctly))
01:49 PM JT-Shop: BeachBumPete: the Vector will transmit flight data without a camera even being connected which I find cool
01:49 PM BeachBumPete: making some progress on my custom laminate stock today. Whittling away what is NOT a Field Target stock is time consuming as I now recall LOL
01:50 PM JT-Shop: yea over here bumper is the plastic part in front of a car that breaks when a shopping cart runs into it and fender is the part covering the wheels
01:50 PM JT-Shop: you just got to get the finished part out of the raw material
01:51 PM BeachBumPete: I ran down to horrible freight and bought some more drum sander bits and drums and their port and polish sanding kit as well as a kit with an assortment of rotary rasps... all are working quite well considering their source LOL
01:51 PM JT-Shop: we have a horrible fright here too now... dang town is growing like a weed
01:51 PM BeachBumPete: I can't seem to find my larger diameter roundover router bits for the forrend tho
01:51 PM phipli: ah, bumper it is then. I meant the front bit
01:51 PM phipli: thought you called them something different.
01:52 PM phipli: we call your fenders "wings"
01:52 PM JT-Shop: yea over here a bonnet goes on a ladies head or used to anyway
01:52 PM phipli: which causes less confusion than you'd imagine...
01:53 PM BeachBumPete: one side effect of carving and shaping this blue laminate blank is that when I come inside from out in the shop the kids ask me if it is much farther now Pappa Smurf hehehe
01:54 PM phipli: heh
02:03 PM JT-Shop: my calculated weight based on manufactures weights is 810 grams for the S500 less the battery, actual weight is 947 grams and the camera which weighs 18 grams has not arrived yet... someone lied about the weight of their part
02:04 PM LeelooMinai_ is now known as LeelooMinai
02:04 PM phipli: JT-Shop: perhaps it is the gaffa tape and cable ties?
02:06 PM JT-Shop: lol a whole pack of zip ties only weighs 17 grams, not sure what gaffa tape is...
02:07 PM phipli: gorilla tape? duct tape?
02:07 PM JT-Shop: oh no duct tape used on this lol
02:07 PM phipli: *yet
02:07 PM JT-Shop: I cut 60% of the wires off of the motors and that is 34 grams
02:07 PM JT-Shop: exactly
02:08 PM JT-Shop: I suspect the airframe is heavier than listed...
02:09 PM phipli: trains are always heavier than stated
02:10 PM phipli: modifications basically almost always add weight
02:10 PM phipli: and manufacturers always try to weigh the first few in a run
02:10 PM phipli: because the aluminium dies wear and the extrusions of later ones contain more material
02:11 PM phipli: but I guess your airframe isn't extruded aluminium
02:12 PM * phipli realises he's never youtubed aluminium extrusion videos...
02:13 PM Tom_itx: rewire with aluminum wiring :D
02:13 PM BeachBumPete: pump the wire shielding full of helium ;)
02:14 PM JT-Shop: one shipping weight is 1.4 pounds and subtracting the carton and a few left over screws the airframe comes in at near 500 grams and this is close to actual
02:14 PM BeachBumPete: remove the landing gear?
02:14 PM Tom_itx: Ti screws
02:15 PM JT-Shop: be hard on the stuff on the bottom, the weight is not a problem I'm still under 1/2 throttle thrust so I'm ok
02:19 PM Tom_itx: next you should build one you can ride in
02:19 PM Tom_itx: 4 rotax
02:20 PM BeachBumPete: its already been done quite a few times. not sure I would fly in one but its there is you want it ;)
02:21 PM JT-Shop: a hover craft would be cool if you lived in a place south louisana
02:22 PM Tom_itx: you could tune the electronics remotely before you got in
02:22 PM BeachBumPete: there are quite a few surface effect vehicles you can build from plans/kits that look very cool.
02:23 PM phipli: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rIsQYrzztzI&feature=youtu.be
02:23 PM phipli: if I didn't show you already JT-Shop
02:28 PM CaptHindsight: roycroft: http://www.sciencemag.org/news/2017/07/microbe-new-science-found-self-fermented-beer
02:29 PM JT-Shop: now that chicken can fly
02:43 PM dioz: JT-Shop: have any suggestions for a utility knife? blade holder?
02:43 PM dioz: something like the milwaukee fastback
02:43 PM dioz: but not milwaukee
02:48 PM JT-Shop: for?
02:48 PM JT-Shop: wow a 5% increase in altitude hold made a huge difference
02:49 PM JT-Shop: now to look at the data log
03:31 PM JT-Shop: wow I'm impressed with the Vector it even flies well when your motors are falling off...
03:43 PM Deejay: gn8
03:46 PM Frank_: if i only need to duplicate signals for two motors on one axis, do i still need to switch to master 2.8? im finding conflicting information on the forums
03:46 PM JT-Shop: no
03:47 PM Frank_: kay
03:47 PM JT-Shop: you only need master for a gantry if you want to home the gantry
04:46 PM Nick-Shop: Can I single point a thread inside of a 3/4" wide undercut and not hit the ends and be able to get straight out on X?
05:12 PM absynth is now known as dan2wik
05:18 PM Tom_itx: can you?
05:22 PM XXCoder: new primitive tech video!
05:23 PM XXCoder: and new oltrogge video https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rN09nj2Vu8g
05:23 PM Tom_itx: sounds like you need something threaded on the backside all in one op
05:24 PM Tom_itx: if it's a tight area, the singlepoint tool may not be beefy enough
05:26 PM XXCoder: the video shows power of 3d printing, in order to aid making stuff :)
05:38 PM XXCoder: Whats pretty amazing about that hammer is its "rechargable"
05:38 PM XXCoder: just re-melt lead off and recast it
05:38 PM XXCoder: look, new hammer once again, just oddly worn handle lol
05:44 PM XXCoder: he finally made sandals!
05:45 PM Nick-Shop: Tool is size 3 kennametal so its rigid. Just a matter of the tool having 0.010 clearance ot each side and will it do the thread correctly . It hase a 1/8 uc at both ends and it's a 5/8-11 thread
06:04 PM Nick-Shop: Dinner time and enough for 1 day
06:37 PM BeachBumPete: Stock is starting to take shape... still a LONG WAY to go LOL http://imgur.com/a/Nllmz
06:42 PM CaptHindsight: BeachBumPete: blue stain?
06:44 PM BeachBumPete: nope
06:44 PM BeachBumPete: it is a custom laminate blank
06:44 PM BeachBumPete: its called sky blue laminate
06:47 PM BeachBumPete: It still has to lose a few pounds here and there and the shape will start to reveal itself. The stock looks like mostly a big block right now. It takes me awhile to cut and sand it to shape..
06:55 PM XXCoder: https://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/JVTG3OV98D5NLEF7-fram640x414x640x414xxxx very safe design.
06:59 PM evilren: xxcoder: i was at some generic discount grocery place
07:00 PM evilren: motor oil, cooking oil, same bottles
07:00 PM XXCoder: yummy
07:00 PM XXCoder: I knew I needed some oil fill up
07:03 PM XXCoder: want chicken, beef or kids? https://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/J1UIHGA2NIDMTFCF-cp0x162x360x435-fram640x414x640x414xxxx
07:11 PM Loetmichel: XXCoder: i use a pump spray with 50:50 windex and Isoproply-alcohol in it to kill flys... maybe it IS the same canola oil in both bottles?
07:11 PM Loetmichel: s/bottles/spray cans
07:11 PM XXCoder: lol
07:13 PM XXCoder: foul, too many Frank_20 s on field
07:18 PM XXCoder: tag on usb cable, "wireless" https://proxy.topixcdn.com/ipicimg/BHE2IA17P3JHMUMM-v1-fram640x414x640x414xxxx
07:23 PM malcom2073_: Haha, awesome
10:44 PM LeelooMinai: I am playing with Open HAB + influxdb/graphana - pretty cool so far
10:47 PM LeelooMinai: Also, trading is interesting too - installed a trading bot, gave it $20 and it's trying to, well, trade it into more using different strategies.
10:49 PM LeelooMinai: Mostly from curiosity of how those things work, but I can see there's a lot of oportunities there for dedicated people.
10:50 PM LeelooMinai: Hmm, trying to find some text-mode ui for systemctl
10:51 PM LeelooMinai: On Debian Stretch
10:51 PM LeelooMinai: There must be something...
10:54 PM Tom_itx: remove the display manager
10:55 PM LeelooMinai: Hm?
10:56 PM Tom_L: https://lists.debian.org/debian-user/2017/02/msg00046.html
10:56 PM LeelooMinai: I just mean a text ui over ssh - I don't want to remove xface...
10:56 PM LeelooMinai: xfce
10:57 PM Tom_itx: i use putty
10:58 PM LeelooMinai: I do too, but I meant that I want something that will allow me to control services by listing them and allowing me to select, filter, start/restart, etc. instead of suing systemctl in a non-interactive way.
10:59 PM LeelooMinai: I know how to do this in GUI, but cannot find anything for text.
11:00 PM Tom_itx: want to list running services?
11:00 PM Tom_itx: ps -aux
11:00 PM LeelooMinai: No, that's listing processes - I know all this stuff.
11:01 PM LeelooMinai: I can list services of course using systemctl, but that's not interactive.
11:02 PM LeelooMinai: Tom_itx: It's like you have ps command and top/htop - first is just command, the second is interactive.
11:02 PM LeelooMinai: So, I am looking for interactive was to do systemctl
11:02 PM LeelooMinai: was=way
11:05 PM Tom_itx: systemd
11:05 PM Tom_itx: ?
11:06 PM LeelooMinai: Well, systemd is the daemon
11:06 PM XXCoder: DEMON!!!
11:06 PM XXCoder: :P
11:06 PM LeelooMinai: systemctl is to control services of it, but, I want equivalent that uses ncurses or whatever and works like htop.
11:07 PM LeelooMinai: XXCoder: I forgot, what is your "system of choice"?
11:08 PM Tom_itx: i doubt i'll be running stretch any time soon
11:08 PM XXCoder: xfce mint
11:08 PM Tom_itx: i may try mint one day
11:08 PM LeelooMinai: A, so close - I have Debian xfce everywhere for non-desktop.
11:09 PM LeelooMinai: XXCoder: Did you play with home automation?
11:09 PM XXCoder: sadly no
11:09 PM Tom_itx: did you get your door squared up?
11:09 PM LeelooMinai: It's pretty cool. For lols I got once TP-HS110: it's a simple switch, but with power monitoring.
11:10 PM LeelooMinai: And now I managed to connect it to Open HAB thing and working on real-time graphs and database storage. Hence the influxdb and Grafana - pretty cool stuff.
11:11 PM LeelooMinai: Tom_itx: I took, what is it called... trim board? on one side to see if there are those two studs side by side. There are.
11:12 PM LeelooMinai: But I did not yet try to actually wedge something there, as I diverted my energy to a catwalk project for, well, the cat.
11:13 PM LeelooMinai: Which is an extension to my deck with a channel covered with screen-door fabric and ultimately to the deck door with a little cat-door.
11:14 PM LeelooMinai: So the cat can exit the house by that door, use smaller "tunnel" and then get to that deck extension and walk around, watch birds, etc.
11:15 PM LeelooMinai: And not run away.
11:16 PM LeelooMinai: I will also put a camera in there so I can see here.
11:16 PM LeelooMinai: her*
11:17 PM XXCoder: build a tower for her heh
11:18 PM XXCoder: you could use same tower to have nice vantage point for camera there
11:18 PM LeelooMinai: Well, once I have the main catwalk part, it can be extended. But, it's all subject to my mom not getting hysterical about me "destroying the house":)
11:19 PM XXCoder: or converting it tp maze of cat tubes lol
11:20 PM LeelooMinai: Right, no, as the main "architect", I have to make sure it all looks nice, or in the future my mom will not trust me with new projects.
11:22 PM LeelooMinai: I got nice sedar boards for this, used table saw to make slots on the edges, got the spline for the screen fabric and a tool to put it in. The top will be made from 9 gauge galvanized wire bend into a shape and along there is a stretched "cloth wire" in some plasticy protective sleeve.
11:23 PM LeelooMinai: cedar*
11:23 PM LeelooMinai: So it should look pretty "light".
11:24 PM LeelooMinai: I only hope the cut will not decide to eat the mesh... oh well.
11:24 PM LeelooMinai: cat*
11:25 PM LeelooMinai: If mesh is eaten, I will need to buy mesh-plan-B, but for 3x the price.
11:27 PM XXCoder: mesh to protect cat from falling?
11:28 PM LeelooMinai: No, from escaping - the whole point is for the cat to have freedom to exit/enter the house and sit in the backard "tunnel/catwalk", but not being able to run away.
11:29 PM XXCoder: ahh for external section
11:29 PM XXCoder: you need a towel with glass(plastic) dome lol though need to be well ventelated for safety
11:30 PM LeelooMinai: Right, it's kind of like a long tent construction, but with mesh, so the cat is kind of outside and free.
11:31 PM LeelooMinai: Because for the cat there's a lot of interesting things there: birds, squirrels, even some rabbits or what they are have an underground home there.
11:31 PM LeelooMinai: Also, dogs of neighbours, etc.
11:37 PM LeelooMinai: Hmm, it's cool how many of those web apps now can work in an app mode - Chrome can create a desktop shortcut for them and you basically can treat it like an app launcher - you get a window without all the browser controls, that looks like more or less native app. in tablet mode.
11:40 PM LeelooMinai: Like that: http://i.imgur.com/NYKdafP.png
11:40 PM XXCoder: I see you like dark scheme for irc lol
11:40 PM LeelooMinai: You can add graphs there and all sorts of meters, etc.
11:41 PM LeelooMinai: I prefer dark for almost everything. But got used to web pages on white.
11:41 PM LeelooMinai: But for programming - no way...
11:43 PM XXCoder: yeah my irc uses dark scheme also
11:43 PM LeelooMinai: Hmm, now I need to somehow graph power from that switch
11:44 PM LeelooMinai: Then in theory I can use it for my solar, sans a minor detail of it not taking well that the power comes into the socket not out of it:)