#linuxcnc Logs

Jul 25 2017

01:03 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Germany
01:08 AM IchGucksLive: till later
02:26 AM Deejay: moin
02:26 AM Vq: dito from Sweden
02:26 AM Deejay: moi
02:26 AM Deejay: (but thats finnish, right?)
02:27 AM Vq: "moi"? I don't know
02:29 AM Deejay: however :)
05:55 AM jthornton: morning
06:03 AM Deejay: hooya
08:38 AM pink_vampire: morning
09:01 AM Deejay: hey pink
09:05 AM JesusAlos1 is now known as JesusAlos
09:14 AM pink_vampire: hi Deejay
10:18 AM jdh: any inexpensive sources for milspec circular connectors. digikey is $80/each for 26 pin. without pins
10:30 AM Deejay: hrhr
10:33 AM * Deejay bought weipu ip68 connectors last time. but i think they have no milspec
10:33 AM Deejay: its china-stuff ;)
10:36 AM jdh: heh... logged in with my work account and they are $55 instead
10:39 AM jdh: and... 95 day lead time
10:41 AM Deejay: outch
12:15 PM kanzure is now known as 07EABCRRW
12:23 PM IchGucksLive: hi from germany
12:28 PM jdh: hi from not-germany
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: there is a CNc leak this times only 400 klicks to the youtube channel so holiday in the world
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: or lcnc is off the focus of the world as ramps steps in more and more
01:12 PM IchGucksLive: im off early its raiing hard here need to get to the fireengine as it might get flodding
01:12 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8
01:42 PM Loetmichel: *MUHAHA* my (younger) sister is a bit more than just a bit brutal... She just called. "Can you talk me thru changing the batteries on my APC UPS? just bought four new 12V 7Ah AGM lead blocks..."
01:42 PM Loetmichel: $me: "sure"... [talking her thru the connections to put the 4 blocks in series]
01:42 PM Loetmichel: She: "thanks... *SLAMMING the half closed battery box back into the UPS... *BRRRZZZT* *escaping smoke* "uuups!"
01:42 PM Loetmichel: $me: "... i just wannted to that that you should maybe cleanup the wiring before ramming that thing into there...
01:42 PM Loetmichel: Now she has to go to the car hifi shop tomorrow and get a new 60A fuse... and some PVC tape to re-insulate the pinched +48V wire ;)
01:43 PM Frank___: hi beautifull people
01:47 PM pink_vampire: hi Frank___
02:08 PM phipli: evening
02:10 PM Frank___: is there a minimum frequency level to which i should set the vfd for the spindle?
02:10 PM JT-Shop: evening
02:11 PM JT-Shop: Frank___: lacking the minimum frequency specs I'd set it at the lowest speed it runs smooth and not hot
02:11 PM Frank___: exactly, i have only max freq. data
02:13 PM JT-Shop: cleaning out the stuff from partners shop and I find the old petty cash box... I'd forgot we had one
02:14 PM Frank___: any tips on it? heh
02:21 PM JT-Shop: tips?
02:22 PM phipli: JT-Shop: as long as it is still legal tender :)
02:23 PM JT-Shop: yea it was just a roll of pennies and some loose change lol
02:25 PM phipli: I have a Kenyan coin in my drawer at work
02:26 PM phipli: don't even know where it came from (to arrive at my desk, obviously it came from Kenya)
02:28 PM JT-Shop: I have some currency from Zaire and I know how I got that
02:28 PM JT-Shop: and some from the ivory coast countries
02:38 PM Loetmichel: hmmm
02:39 PM Loetmichel: i wonder how expensive it would be to have one set of coins of every currency there is on earth...
02:40 PM phipli: Loetmichel: full set = very expensive :)
02:40 PM Loetmichel: COINS
02:41 PM Loetmichel: not paper
02:41 PM phipli: biggest coin we have is £5
02:42 PM phipli: if it is anything near similar in a load of countries it gets expensive quickly
02:42 PM phipli: (£5 coins are not normally in circulation, they are made to commemorate special occasions)
02:43 PM JT-Shop: we have a dollar coin that you usually get from change machines, my wife thought it was a token not a real coin
02:44 PM Loetmichel: my wife has a box on her desk at home... with american and canadian dollars, british pounds, NOK, SEK, DKK and some african countrys currency i cant even find on the map ;)
02:44 PM Loetmichel: the "perks" of having a worldwide team to manage ;)
02:54 PM phipli: :)
02:54 PM phipli: I have a dollar note somewhere
02:54 PM phipli: my mum used to have a silver dollar, but someone stole it
02:54 PM phipli: got a few notes from around the world
03:20 PM JT-Shop: where is a dollar note from?
03:21 PM MrHindsight is now known as CaptHindsight
03:25 PM Tom_L: i think i still have a handfull of 'quarter' size dollars here
03:26 PM CaptHindsight: I used to pay all my bar tabs exclusively in the newer $ coins.
03:27 PM Tom_L: they're no longer in circultion i think
03:27 PM Tom_L: too confusing
03:27 PM CaptHindsight: I haven't tried to get them for a while, are they really already gone?
03:27 PM Tom_L: the susan b anthony ones?
03:27 PM Tom_L: i think so
03:28 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, they were great
03:28 PM CaptHindsight: I got some half dollars a few weeks ago as change from a purchase
03:28 PM CaptHindsight: I don't see those around much anymore either
03:29 PM phipli: JT-Shop : The USA - although I have one from Jamaica as well
03:33 PM CaptHindsight: same story with the Sacagawea dollar
03:34 PM JT-Shop: ah we call it a dollar bill
03:34 PM phipli: Sorry :)
03:34 PM phipli: mixing my dialects :)
03:34 PM JT-Shop: I thought it might be from someplace else as I know several countries call their currency dollar
03:35 PM phipli: over here a bill is either attached to a duck, or what you get at the end of a meal
03:35 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/misc/caymen_heads.jpg
03:35 PM Tom_L: http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:81/~webpage/temp/misc/caymen_tails.jpg
03:37 PM CaptHindsight: phipli: even the police here are confused by what is actual currency http://reason.com/blog/2016/05/04/little-girl-detained-by-police-after-try
03:37 PM JT-Shop: I remember the silver certificate dollar, guaranteed by silver
03:38 PM Tom_L: as a kid my dad used to bring silver dollars home by the dozens. i wish i had a few of them now
03:38 PM CaptHindsight: we had a ton as well
03:39 PM Tom_L: i've still got a handfull of mercury dimes
03:40 PM CaptHindsight: I had some idiot friends that got several sequential uncirculated sets and exchanged them for lunch money
03:40 PM Tom_L: hah
03:40 PM CaptHindsight: I collected for a while years ago
03:41 PM Tom_L: same
03:41 PM CaptHindsight: indian pennies, buffalo nickles
03:41 PM Tom_L: that and stamps as a kid
03:41 PM CaptHindsight: me to
03:41 PM CaptHindsight: there was a dealer nearby
03:41 PM CaptHindsight: as kids we'd buy a bag of his stamps hoping to find some treasure
03:42 PM CaptHindsight: of course he scanned everything before it made the bag
03:43 PM Tom_L: but failed to disclose that fact :D
03:43 PM phipli: CaptHindsight: her biggest mistake was trying to spend it instead of selling it...
03:44 PM phipli: if they're unusual, it is probably worth more than $2
03:44 PM CaptHindsight: phipli: back they probably got ~7:1
03:44 PM CaptHindsight: late 70's
03:44 PM phipli: Tom_L: interesting set of coins
03:45 PM phipli: I've got one of the later silver sixpences - they ditched the silver content in two stages
03:45 PM phipli: some, then all
03:46 PM phipli: traditionally a lucky coin over here
03:48 PM Tom_L: i used to have a 1910 dime but apparently someone else needed it worse than me
03:48 PM CaptHindsight: or was 10 cents short at the vending machine :)
03:49 PM Tom_L: few choice rocks missing from my rock collection too
03:49 PM * phipli wonders where he's put his coin collection
03:49 PM phipli: I've got a couple of coins back into the 19th century
03:49 PM phipli: the oldest one is an almost unreadable penny
03:49 PM CaptHindsight: I have bags of foreign coins
03:49 PM CaptHindsight: other countries tend to keep smaller denominations in coins
03:50 PM phipli: Our penny is basically worthless
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: and they end up in your bag at the airport
03:50 PM phipli: they keep having to change the composition because the metal is worth more than the coin
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: paper pennies
03:50 PM phipli: there is such a thing?
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: i wish
03:51 PM phipli: I have a european 1 cent - they're worth even less than our pennies
03:51 PM CaptHindsight: and coins for $5-20 would be nicer
03:51 PM phipli: Biggest coin in regular use here is £2
03:51 PM phipli: which is...
03:51 PM phipli: $2.61 atm
03:52 PM CaptHindsight: are your bills mostly plastic now?
03:52 PM phipli: only one
03:52 PM phipli: as of this year
03:52 PM phipli: most are still fancy cloth/paper stuff
03:52 PM CaptHindsight: different sizes based on value?
03:52 PM phipli: yeah
03:52 PM phipli: for blind people
03:52 PM phipli: and probably other reasons
03:52 PM Deejay: gn8
03:52 PM phipli: night
03:52 PM CaptHindsight: thats a big complaint here, all the same size
03:53 PM phipli: ours are different colours as well
03:53 PM Tom_L: they stack easier
03:53 PM phipli: yours are all green?
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: all green
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: more color lately
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: metallics and color shifting
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: got too easy to coy
03:53 PM CaptHindsight: coy/copy
03:54 PM Simonious: My chart here only shows taps.. grrr
03:54 PM JT-Shop: yea the motors for the S500 arrived
03:54 PM CaptHindsight: https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/6/64/USDnotes.png/252px-USDnotes.png
03:55 PM CaptHindsight: I rarely see a $50 or $2 note
03:55 PM Tom_L: i've seen 1 $1000 bill
03:56 PM CaptHindsight: 1, 5, 10, 20, 100 are common
03:56 PM Tom_L: never seen a $5000 bill yet
03:57 PM phipli: people don't trust £50 notes here
03:57 PM phipli: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/736x/ef/59/df/ef59df3f48da4de372f8284cbb1ac770--banknote-coins.jpg
03:57 PM phipli: not the newest five in that picture
03:57 PM phipli: perhaps some of the others...
03:58 PM phipli: they change the people, but they mostly stay the same
03:58 PM phipli: £50s (obviously) did or do get faked more
03:58 PM phipli: so people don't like them
04:01 PM CaptHindsight: I get my $20's checked with a marker quite often
04:01 PM CaptHindsight: I usually then ask for my change to be checked using their same marker
04:02 PM CaptHindsight: for everyones protection
04:03 PM CaptHindsight: $100 notes tend to get very scrutinized
04:03 PM CaptHindsight: unless you are at a **** restaurant
04:05 PM CaptHindsight: the other downside to carrying too much cash on you here is civil forfeiture
04:06 PM CaptHindsight: how much depends on how corrupt the police dept is that stops you
04:06 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.washingtonpost.com/world/national-security/sessions-greenlights-police-to-increase-seizures-of-cash-and-property-from-suspected-criminals/2017/07/19/3522a9ba-6c99-11e7-96ab-5f38140b38cc_story.html
04:07 PM FinboySlick: I read about that. It's pretty nasty legally because they're charging the asset itself for the crime. And your cash can't afford a lawyer.
04:07 PM CaptHindsight: yup, real nice
04:08 PM CaptHindsight: and to top it off they might say something like we won't charge you unless you protest
04:09 PM CaptHindsight: the law goes back to the 80's
04:09 PM CaptHindsight: it's an example i give when people say things like I'd don't mind if it's only used the way it's supposed to
04:15 PM JT-Shop: CaptHindsight: pm
04:29 PM CaptHindsight: phipli: whats the smallest paper note?
04:30 PM phipli: £5
04:31 PM CaptHindsight: that makes sense
04:31 PM phipli: years ago there were £1 and £0.50 (50p), but not in my lifetime
04:31 PM CaptHindsight: China has a 10 cent note
04:32 PM CaptHindsight: but they are smaller than the other notes
04:32 PM CaptHindsight: physically
04:33 PM cradek: I encountered a Rs5 note when in india recently
04:33 PM cradek: I paid for using the toilet with a 20, and got a 10 and 5 in change
04:34 PM CaptHindsight: western toilet?
04:34 PM cradek: I don't remember the style of that one
04:35 PM cradek: there was a wide variety...
04:36 PM CaptHindsight: that is 8 cents US heh
04:36 PM cradek: yeah
04:37 PM cradek: but you can have a decent meal for Rs20, to put it in perspective
04:37 PM CaptHindsight: yeah it's relative
04:38 PM cradek: 1 Pie = 1/3 paisa = 1/192 rupee
04:38 PM cradek: thanks, the british
04:42 PM CaptHindsight: cradek: what town were you in or near?
04:48 PM Simonious: M12 1.25
05:13 PM cradek: CaptHindsight: Kochi and Chennai
05:18 PM phipli: cradek: don't blame us - we ditched all that shit
05:19 PM phipli: looked up some values today that were in...
05:19 PM phipli: Hr.ft2.ºF/Btu
05:19 PM phipli: I mean... what?
05:20 PM phipli: makes you appreciate SI units
05:20 PM phipli: (that two was meant to be a squared)
05:38 PM CaptHindsight: oh it is easy to work with when you measure everything in feet and lbs
05:39 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.translatorscafe.com/unit-converter/en-US/heat-transfer-coefficient/8-2/Btu%20(IT)%2Fhour%2Ffoot%C2%B2%2F%C2%B0F-watt%2Fmeter%C2%B2%2F%C2%B0C/
05:59 PM LeelooMinai: Too bad no one does - for torque you will get all combinations of feet inches lbs and oz pretty much:p
06:01 PM phipli: I'll stick with watts, metres and kelvin :)
06:02 PM LeelooMinai: Hmm, seems there's some Italian maphia man speaking for the White House now - I did not follow for few days and now I feel clueless:)
06:04 PM BeachBumPete: clueless is accurate I think... :)
06:05 PM LeelooMinai: Clueless about who is new and who is old - not about the concepts:p
06:05 PM Frank___: anyone knows why my spindle makes a weird noise and starts up as soon as i press machine enable?
06:05 PM LeelooMinai: Also, it's good to slowly detoxicate from news nowadays.
06:06 PM Frank___: i mean, is it normal to start up when pressing machine enable button?
06:06 PM enleth: CaptHindsight: whenever someone insists on using "feet" for measuring length, I reply by giving length in "dicks" and explaining "it's same thing for me"
06:06 PM BeachBumPete: hehe
06:06 PM Frank___: lol
06:06 PM LeelooMinai: Frank, probably not - I would check if the spindle on g-code command is on
06:06 PM CaptHindsight: phipli: so £ for Scotland and Britain, Euros for Ireland?
06:06 PM BeachBumPete: Frank___ Way too little info man
06:07 PM LeelooMinai: what is spindle on, M7,8,9. Forgot:)
06:08 PM BeachBumPete: M03 M04
06:08 PM CaptHindsight: enleth: everything has been converted to hand size here since the orange pumpkin took over
06:08 PM LeelooMinai: lol: http://www.urbandictionary.com/define.php?term=G%20Code
06:08 PM LeelooMinai: "meeantime, in another world..."
06:08 PM Frank___: wait a sec, quick one, i downloaded iso 2.7 from web page but didnt downloaded any updates whatsoever, did the updates changed pncconf?
06:08 PM CaptHindsight: aka Great Pumpkin
06:09 PM BeachBumPete: and with that I am off...
06:09 PM Frank___: when i try to configure the spindle on pncconf, it gives me little to no options
06:09 PM LeelooMinai: Seems for rappers "g code" is you not being a snitch/rat///
06:09 PM LeelooMinai: At least it's positive:)
06:10 PM phipli: CaptHindsight: Republic of Ireland isn't the same country
06:10 PM phipli: Northern Ireland uses £
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: http://brilliantmaps.com/eng-gb-uk/
06:10 PM CaptHindsight: anywhere UK = £
06:10 PM LeelooMinai: Babushka countries
06:11 PM LeelooMinai: THere's something wrong when you need ven diagrams to figure out what the name of the country is:)
06:11 PM phipli: but... you said Euros, so I inferred that you mean the RoI
06:11 PM LeelooMinai: Or venn even
06:11 PM CaptHindsight: where is the best place to convert your £ to Euros and vice versa?
06:12 PM CaptHindsight: can't you guys just get along? :)
06:12 PM phipli: converting = it depends
06:12 PM LeelooMinai: CaptHindsight: Bitcoin exchanges:p
06:12 PM phipli: get along = seems not, same as everyone else in this world
06:12 PM phipli: although things are better than they used to be
06:13 PM CaptHindsight: like jesusland vs educated states
06:13 PM LeelooMinai: Better - acid bags instead of bombs:)
06:13 PM phipli: I'm half Irish - my parents have both lived in both countries
06:14 PM LeelooMinai: I think my neighbour is from that venn diagram - he sometimes has white flag with I think blue cross on and he plays the pipes on weekends:(
06:15 PM LeelooMinai: Still better than other neighbours playing Canadian rap.
06:18 PM BitEvil is now known as SpeedEvil
06:33 PM phipli: night folks
07:47 PM Vitran: Hey Z. Got the code tow ork today
07:47 PM Vitran: * to work
07:47 PM zeeshan: what code
07:48 PM Vitran: so next is to tripple check all the wires and run
07:48 PM Vitran: I got Rob_h's program from his 5i20 to work on my 5i25
07:48 PM zeeshan: nice
07:56 PM Tom_L: what's up zeeshan
07:56 PM zeeshan: hi tom
07:56 PM zeeshan: hows it going
07:56 PM Tom_L: mmm ok i suppose
07:58 PM zeeshan: im organizing pictures of my expeditions so far :D
08:22 PM zeeshan: vitrant could you ask your mom to help me identify two things ?
08:22 PM zeeshan: vitran
08:27 PM zeeshan: http://imgur.com/a/U1Jxa
08:27 PM zeeshan: TY!!
08:29 PM malcom2073_: Hey zeeshan, where are ya expeditioning to?
08:30 PM zeeshan: lots of places :D
08:31 PM CaptHindsight: hobbit food :)
08:31 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/ss9SKBC.jpg
08:31 PM zeeshan: ive been canoeing a lot
08:32 PM CaptHindsight: the 2nd pic is definitely some sort of water craft
08:32 PM malcom2073_: Nice
08:32 PM CaptHindsight: zeeshan: is the shroom from somewhere up in the north east?
08:32 PM zeeshan: CaptHindsight: yes
08:32 PM zeeshan: i dont know what it is
08:32 PM zeeshan: i think it's edible
08:32 PM zeeshan: :)
08:33 PM jdh: taste it!
08:33 PM zeeshan: i cant find it in my book
08:33 PM Tom_L: give it a try...
08:33 PM zeeshan: im pretty sure that next bush is juniper berry
08:33 PM CaptHindsight: what's the worst that can happen?
08:33 PM zeeshan: vitran's mom is a botanist
08:33 PM zeeshan: i was hoping she'd be able to help
08:33 PM jdh: you need a mycologist
08:34 PM zeeshan: she prolly has an idea :)
08:34 PM zeeshan: i made the mistake of eating blue berries next to some poison ivy
08:34 PM zeeshan: boy, you do not want to do that.
08:34 PM zeeshan: it gave me a good scare.
08:34 PM CaptHindsight: what does your cologist know about these?
08:35 PM Tom_L: https://www.britannica.com/list/7-of-the-worlds-most-poisonous-mushrooms
08:36 PM CaptHindsight: http://1.bp.blogspot.com/-97l2mgeVXTY/Tz3893q3RdI/AAAAAAAAAA4/pTmWbhx9BRk/s1600/5vvg47.jpg maybe these?
08:37 PM zeeshan: nah i dont thinkso
08:37 PM zeeshan: it was curled up
08:37 PM zeeshan: its concave
08:37 PM CaptHindsight: Klitos (Clitocybe)
08:37 PM zeeshan: its buddies was also looking the same
08:37 PM CaptHindsight: https://www.google.com/search?q=Klitos+(Clitocybe)&num=100&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjC5KP84KXVAhUrxFQKHR6cBuUQsAQIOA&biw=1368&bih=844
08:38 PM CaptHindsight: https://it.wikipedia.org/wiki/Clitocybe
08:40 PM zeeshan: http://northernbushcraft.com.s3-website-us-west-2.amazonaws.com/mushrooms/yellowGilledRussula/1.jpg
08:40 PM zeeshan: i was thinking it was this..
08:42 PM CaptHindsight: some are so similar you need a pro
08:43 PM Vitran: Ah, sorry. I was away
08:43 PM Tom_L: yeah, personally if i didn't get it at the supermarket i don't think i'd eat one
08:43 PM Vitran: Those look like juniper bushes
08:43 PM zeeshan: doesnt bother me
08:43 PM zeeshan: i eat a lot of wild edibles lately
08:43 PM zeeshan: will die one day :-)
08:43 PM zeeshan: vitran awesome!
08:44 PM Vitran: don't mess with mushrooms
08:44 PM Vitran: but, there are some you may be able to find
08:45 PM Vitran: Morels are good, but be really careful
08:45 PM zeeshan: well you showed me the giant puff ball
08:45 PM zeeshan: morel i found..
08:45 PM zeeshan: but guess what, it was a false morel
08:45 PM zeeshan: the poisonious kind
08:45 PM Vitran: Look up deathcap mushrooms
08:45 PM Vitran: they look innocent, but have lead to several deaths
08:47 PM zeeshan: i wont eat one unless im damn positive its good
08:47 PM Vitran: One you can eat, but have to boil heavily, is the dryad's saddle. You can find it on trees
08:47 PM Vitran: I was told it takes a day to boil to make them non-woody
08:48 PM Vitran: But, it also depends on the species. Dryad's saddle are easy to find and spot
08:48 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/N2Aqxal.jpg
08:48 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/UKZQsKV.jpg
08:48 PM zeeshan: do you know what those area
08:48 PM zeeshan: *are
08:48 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/wJN7Vlq.jpg
08:48 PM zeeshan: or this
08:48 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/vzmsmVG.jpg
08:48 PM zeeshan: or this
08:48 PM zeeshan: the last one i am pretty sure is deadly.
08:49 PM Tom_L: it looks angry
08:49 PM Vitran: If you want deadly, here https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Destroying_angel
08:49 PM Vitran: It stops DNA from replicating
08:50 PM zeeshan: wow
08:50 PM Vitran: http://mushroom-collecting.com/index.html
08:53 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_deadly_fungus_species
08:55 PM Vitran: I think that yellow cap mushroom you had is an immature version of this https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amanita_muscaria
08:56 PM Vitran: Crazy thing with a mushroom hike. They talked about some psychedelic mushrooms that also made people sick
08:56 PM Vitran: So what they did was feed the mushrooms to deer who would not get sick
08:57 PM Vitran: Then to get the psychedelic trip, they drank the urine. In some places they fed them to women and drank that.... People do odd things for psychedelic trips
08:58 PM CaptHindsight: heh, who is the guy that figured that out?
08:59 PM CaptHindsight: heylets feed the mushroom to the deer and then drink its urine!
08:59 PM Vitran: That's what I was wondering
08:59 PM CaptHindsight: or what sort of an accident does it take to injest deer urine?
09:00 PM Vitran: http://dailygrail.com/Shamanism/2012/9/Taking-the-Pss-Did-Shamans-Really-Drink-Reindeer-Urine
09:00 PM CaptHindsight: if they regularly drank the urine of animals then I could see the connection by changing the diet of the deer
09:01 PM CaptHindsight: grains, red mushrooms, white castle, etc.
09:03 PM Sabotend_ is now known as Sabotender
09:07 PM malcom2073_: Sorta like those coffee beans that you roast after letting cats eat/poop them out
09:07 PM CaptHindsight: anything to separate a fool from his money
09:09 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.most-expensive.coffee/
09:09 PM roycroft: there's a lot of good coffee around, at a reasonable price
09:10 PM roycroft: there's a lot of higly-hyped coffee around, at extortion prices
09:10 PM roycroft: it's like almost anything else
09:10 PM roycroft: if you're really into it you'll learn about it and get good coffe at a good price
09:10 PM roycroft: if you are a lazy coffee snob who doesn't care, you'll pay too much for shite and pretend to like it
09:10 PM CaptHindsight: I make my own for far less, and I know where my poop has been
09:11 PM zeeshan: lol
09:11 PM roycroft: i haven't gotten around to roasting my own coffee yet
09:11 PM roycroft: there are at least a dozen good roasters in eugene
09:11 PM roycroft: mostly handling organically grown free trade coffee beans
09:11 PM roycroft: and they sell the stuff at reasonable prices
09:11 PM roycroft: i have over $1k into coffee brewing gear
09:12 PM roycroft: i haven't been motivated to spend another $1k in coffee roasting gear
09:12 PM roycroft: i just head downtown and buy what i want
09:12 PM jdh: how can you drink that swill from only $1k worth of brewing
09:12 PM roycroft: i can almost always specifiy the roasting date
09:12 PM roycroft: my grinder cost more than my espresso machine
09:12 PM roycroft: so it's possible :)
09:13 PM Vitran: I've always tried to figure out what people taste in coffee and tea to spend so much on it
09:13 PM jdh: Vitran: add enough cream & sugar
09:13 PM Vitran: So it is like a soda?
09:13 PM jdh: not fizzy, just to cover up the coffee taste
09:14 PM CaptHindsight: it's hard to find roasted but not burned beans
09:14 PM roycroft: i spend $8.50 for 250g of coffee
09:14 PM roycroft: that lasts me two weeks
09:14 PM CaptHindsight: I keep lots of cans of milk coffee around from asia
09:14 PM roycroft: so ~$0.61/day for the coffee
09:14 PM zeeshan: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rubroboletus_pulcherrimus
09:15 PM roycroft: and a little milk on top of that
09:15 PM zeeshan: http://i.imgur.com/vzmsmVG.jpg
09:15 PM zeeshan: looks awfully similar.
09:15 PM roycroft: cappuccino is my preferred espresso beverage
09:15 PM roycroft: imo it's the perfect espresso drink
09:15 PM CaptHindsight: http://img.21food.com/20110609/product/1305741885765.jpg
09:17 PM roycroft: capthindsight: yuk :P
09:17 PM CaptHindsight: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Boss_Coffee
09:17 PM CaptHindsight: and I also make and drink coffee :)
09:18 PM CaptHindsight: they are different
09:19 PM CaptHindsight: I'm also stuck on these now https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Pocari_Sweat
09:19 PM CaptHindsight: not easy to find in the US
09:21 PM roycroft: i have this thing about food coming from dirt or animals, not cans or bottles
09:21 PM jdh: I like LaCroix grapefruit
09:21 PM roycroft: i don't mean to inflict it on others
09:21 PM roycroft: but understand that's where i come from
09:21 PM Vitran: Did you hear about the tick invading northern US that makes a permant allergy to red meat?
09:21 PM roycroft: it's ok if it's in bottles if i put it in the bottles myself
09:21 PM Vitran: http://globalnews.ca/news/3556940/lone-star-ticks-that-cause-red-meat-allergies-are-on-their-way-to-canada/
09:22 PM * roycroft has not eating mammals or birds in over 40 years, and does not pay much attention to such news
09:22 PM roycroft: nor amphibians nor reptiles, for that part
09:22 PM roycroft: but most folks don't eat reptiles or amphibians, so it's almost not worth mentioning
09:23 PM Vitran: What about crikets?
09:23 PM roycroft: i don't recall having done so
09:23 PM roycroft: insects do fly into my mouth upon occasion though
09:23 PM roycroft: and i don't take extraordinary measures to expel them
09:23 PM Vitran: It is being added to protein mixes, protein bars and the like.
09:23 PM roycroft: they
09:24 PM roycroft: are a good, sustainable source of protein
09:27 PM roycroft: you might find that i'm non-dogmatic, and genrally troll-resistant :)
09:27 PM roycroft: although i do succumb to trolling upon occasion
09:27 PM roycroft: but i'm good at self-flaggelation when that happens
09:28 PM roycroft: dies ire domine *self-thwap*
09:28 PM roycroft: dona eis requiem *self-thwap*