#linuxcnc Logs

Jun 22 2017

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:50 AM pink_vampire: tiwake: Awesome music!!! thank you!!
01:46 AM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: are you back from the center of the earth?
01:46 AM IchGucksLive: morning from Germany
01:46 AM Gene_home: morning from usa
01:47 AM IchGucksLive: CaptHindsight: Center is wher you are
01:50 AM IchGucksLive: today gone be a interesting day full state is on yellow allert with red in forcast
01:50 AM Gene_home: I was hoping there was software out there to run some 17nema steppers with simple motion control gui with ramp speeds etc
01:50 AM IchGucksLive: from 38deg down to 22 ther might be a tonado in the comming cloud front
01:51 AM CaptHindsight: Gene_home: sounds like you might want GRBL/reprap stuff
01:51 AM IchGucksLive: Gene_home: sounds like lcnc
01:51 AM IchGucksLive: on windows estlcam
01:52 AM IchGucksLive: im off to garden
01:52 AM MacGalempsy: CaptHindsight: not really
01:53 AM MacGalempsy: I am on location again. now that I am working again, not a lot of downtime to hamg on IRC
01:53 AM Gene_home: trying to mimic power pole movement but at a very small scale ie 17nema
01:53 AM MacGalempsy: Whats going on in the machine shop?
01:57 AM CaptHindsight: new old lathe, motor died, got 2 new 3p 2hp motors for $70
01:58 AM CaptHindsight: got a $3k air compressor for $300 since they broke the pressure switch and starter
02:02 AM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: on land or over water?
02:02 AM archivist: Gene_home, you can use linuxcnc
02:05 AM MacGalempsy: still on land, i never drill offshore
02:05 AM archivist: till the pay id right
02:05 AM archivist: is
02:06 AM MacGalempsy: however, one could consider central oklahoma a vast ocean of nothing
02:06 AM MacGalempsy: kind of like the movie water world, but instead of jet skis we have trucks
02:07 AM MacGalempsy: archivist: i imagine the stuff i do would be done in an onshore facility
02:07 AM MacGalempsy: like a command center office
02:08 AM MacGalempsy: the logs are usually sent to the office via satcom
02:09 AM MacGalempsy: we have dishes all over the place here. been thinking about a free to air dish
02:09 AM Crom: the red sand stone in OK is neat looking as well
02:44 AM Deejay: moin
03:01 AM MacGalempsy: Crom: which red sandstone?
05:00 AM jthornton- is now known as jthornton
05:00 AM jthornton: morning
05:00 AM XXCoder: hey morning person
05:02 AM jthornton: what's up this morning
05:03 AM XXCoder: not much
05:03 AM XXCoder: just taking it one day a time
05:03 AM XXCoder: making 25-26 covers a day
05:04 AM XXCoder: still lots to go
05:04 AM XXCoder: summer will cool down by time its finally done
05:05 AM jthornton: looks like we have a nice cool weekend coming up saturday looks like a good day to finish up splitting firewood for the year
05:08 AM XXCoder: nice
05:46 AM jthornton: I know why my connection sucks there is a light rain right now
05:47 AM XXCoder: no way to improve it? whats you use anyway
05:49 AM jthornton: wildblue satellite
05:49 AM XXCoder: I wonder if you could cover it with non-radio blocking cover
05:50 AM XXCoder: it may help a little
05:50 AM XXCoder: it would block wind from pushing it out of line of connection
05:51 AM jthornton: the dish is on top of the shop roof
05:54 AM XXCoder: yeah enclosure would be bit of a challenge lol
05:54 AM XXCoder: maybe plastic buckets :P
06:23 AM jthornton: to catch the signal?
06:24 AM XXCoder: no to protect it from rain, wind etc
06:25 AM XXCoder: it can still be affected by weather but a little less I would think.
06:25 AM jthornton: I don't think wind is an issue
06:25 AM jthornton: I really don't think it is aimed correctly
06:37 AM jthornton: dang you gotta watch banggood they keep trying to ship from the canadian warehouse and that takes forever
06:37 AM XXCoder: doh
06:38 AM XXCoder: what ya ordering from banggood
06:39 AM jthornton: esp8266 adapter board and some breadboard stuff
06:40 AM XXCoder: cool :)
06:45 AM jthornton: I want to try out phipli wifi chicken door, I got the esp8266 boards but they are 3.3v so you need another board for it lol
06:59 AM Loetmichel: maaan. It never works when someone's watching.I made a video to show how my BMWs radiator fan is already engaged with a cold engine... seems that it only does that when its in the sun at over 25°C ambient... you can hear the fan blowing a bitm buit not holwing like yesterday evening. Also: i need a better camera man... and BOY have i grown fat lately... -> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=
06:59 AM Loetmichel: rmPJiXqBoOk :-)
09:12 AM L-lanterns: ok, how is x-vel-fb calculated?
09:14 AM L-lanterns: is it in inches per second? mm per minute? encoder lines per second? minute?
09:16 AM archivist: feedback is measured, you set mm or inches for the machine units
09:18 AM archivist: your scale factor normalises encoder values
09:18 AM pcw_home: command and feedback positions are in machine units/second
09:21 AM L-lanterns: pcw_home: thanks!
09:21 AM pcw_home: So as archivist said these will be either inches/second or mm/second depending on how the machine is setup
10:29 AM Simonious: Anyone seen an open source web interface builder? Something like LABview or maybe Ubidots or somewhere in between?
10:29 AM TurBoss: we have CMS
10:29 AM TurBoss: check that
10:30 AM Simonious: CMS? googling..
10:39 AM archivist: content management system also known as crutch
10:39 AM Simonious: I'm thinking something more like a lego mindstorms interface
10:51 AM TurBoss: XXCoder: Hello, I have piped the stream to youtube https://www.youtube.com/c/JoseLuisToledanoLopez/live
10:51 AM TurBoss: ;D
10:52 AM pink_vampire: TurBoss: it show just 3 connectors
10:53 AM TurBoss: no audio?
10:53 AM TurBoss: its a midi radio
10:53 AM TurBoss: :D
10:53 AM pink_vampire: opss was muted
10:53 AM TurBoss: 70GB of random midi
10:54 AM pink_vampire: 70GB midi WOW it is almost infinity amount of music
10:54 AM TurBoss: was playing for 2 weeks
10:54 AM TurBoss: until it ends
10:54 AM TurBoss: now is looped
10:55 AM TurBoss: *ended
10:56 AM pink_vampire: before that I was listen to that https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCPhq7iR65k0gWcraXgLiY1A
10:58 AM TurBoss: cool
10:59 AM pink_vampire: TurBoss: tiwake was sent a link to them yesterday. I just love it.
11:01 AM TurBoss: tiwake?
11:01 AM pink_vampire: yes, it's a username here in the channel
11:03 AM TurBoss: ok
11:04 AM pink_vampire: he even show as connected
11:23 AM Loetmichel: hihi, now that i drive a BMW its funny how many BMWs i see here on the streets... just as i pulled into my part of the city i counted 12 BMWs in a row... 4 in front of me, 7 behind me... (THATS a bit much, usually i would say its about every fifth car here in germany that has the blue/white propeller logo on the back/front) never noticed that "awareness" effect with my other car though (an
11:23 AM Loetmichel: opel, also about a fifth of the cars you see on the streets here).
11:31 AM roycroft: we have a lot of priora here
11:53 AM Todd_Z: Much closer to 1% BMW ratio arround here. Too bad mine's about to turn to dust.
11:53 AM Loetmichel: Todd_Z: red dust?
11:54 AM Todd_Z: More brownish
11:54 AM Loetmichel: hrhrh
11:54 AM Loetmichel: i see
11:54 AM Loetmichel: mine isnt that bad, even if its 18 years old...
11:55 AM Todd_Z: mine turned 25 this year.
11:55 AM Loetmichel: <- should lose some weight though... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rmPJiXqBoOk ( made that this noon, to illustrate an issue with the radiator fan visco clutch)
11:55 AM Loetmichel: the rusty spot you can see on the lower right corner is pretty much the only rust on the car ;)
11:58 AM Todd_Z: at 25 years, cars qualify for historic vehicle plates here!
11:58 AM Todd_Z: But you are limited to less than 2000 miles/year.
12:05 PM Loetmichel: its 30 years here in germany
12:06 PM Loetmichel: for historical plates
12:06 PM Loetmichel: and only in "mint condition"
12:06 PM Loetmichel: or close to that
12:06 PM sync: nah, a C will still pass inspection
12:06 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:07 PM Loetmichel: sync: ok, a c will do, but no "tuning" (unless you can proof its done 30 years ago)
12:07 PM Loetmichel: basically it has to be of "historic value"
12:07 PM sync: you can do a lot of modification
12:08 PM IchGucksLive: Loetmichel: did you get rain until now
12:08 PM sync: you just have to prove that it has been done within 10 years of the vehicles first registration
12:08 PM Loetmichel: no, just a few minutes 2 hours back
12:09 PM Loetmichel: sync: ok? thats new to me. last i knew is that any mod has to be done 30 yeras prior to qualify for "historic" plates
12:13 PM sync: of course not. you can even use parts that never existed back then if it improves the safety of the vehicle
12:41 PM IchGucksLive: today i harvested the garden cherrys
12:42 PM IchGucksLive: dark red ones well tasty
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: Loetmichel: what clue doi you use to fix a poti
12:44 PM Loetmichel: ???
12:45 PM archivist: some translation required
12:45 PM Loetmichel: ah, what glue do i use to fis a trimpot in place?
12:45 PM howto: IchGucksLive Hi
12:45 PM Loetmichel: usually nail polish
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: i need to get it fixed at a serten value and the rough terain may do somthing to it
12:45 PM Loetmichel: nail polish
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: ok will try
12:46 PM Loetmichel: and if you need extra strength: try pattex
12:46 PM Loetmichel: the original one
12:46 PM Loetmichel: tat stays "rubbery"
12:46 PM Loetmichel: that
12:46 PM Loetmichel: ... and the word is "certain"... just saying ;)
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: ok will try that also
12:47 PM Loetmichel: your german shows ;)
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: 220Ha of corn will prove it
12:47 PM Loetmichel: really corn? or wheat?
12:47 PM IchGucksLive: Mais
12:48 PM Loetmichel: ok, then corn
12:48 PM Loetmichel: was just wondering
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: we need water downforce
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: for better energie production
12:48 PM Loetmichel: ???
12:48 PM Loetmichel: you mean: more rain?
12:48 PM IchGucksLive: yes
12:49 PM Tom_itx: nail polish or a dot of hot glue
12:49 PM LeelooMinai: IchGucksLive: Loctite, hitglue, epoxy - depends if you want it to be removable.
12:49 PM IchGucksLive: hot glue is also a good idee
12:49 PM LeelooMinai: hotglue*
12:50 PM Tom_itx: just depends how colorful you wanna be :)
12:50 PM Loetmichel: actually it isnt
12:50 PM Loetmichel: hot glue wouldnt stick to a metal or plastic potentiometer shaft well
12:50 PM IchGucksLive: nail polish first
12:51 PM Tom_itx: no but it sticks ok
12:51 PM Tom_itx: just be sure to pick the right color
12:51 PM IchGucksLive: lots of girls /jung women in classroom
12:51 PM Loetmichel: at the company we have a special compound for any "rugged/mil spec" secured pots
12:51 PM LeelooMinai: Hot glue works fine - it will also not float into the insides of the pot, which is probably good:)
12:52 PM IchGucksLive: or i grap the new english teatcher
12:52 PM Loetmichel: that is a bit like the rubber cement from bicycle repair kits
12:53 PM LeelooMinai: There's also this silica/whatever it is called stuff they use to fix capacitors/heavy parts - that probably works too.
12:53 PM howto: IchGucksLive i'm back
12:54 PM Loetmichel: LeelooMinai: silicone cau(l)king?
12:55 PM LeelooMinai: Loetmichel: Well, is it what it is? Same stuff as for bathroom, etc?
12:55 PM sync: similar, but not the same
12:55 PM LeelooMinai: I thought it's harder.
12:55 PM Tom_itx: shore rating is different
12:55 PM Loetmichel: slightly different than bathroom, closer to the fish tanlk silicone
12:56 PM Loetmichel: bathroom type silicone is acid hardening... it attacks metals
12:56 PM Loetmichel: the fish tank stuff is caustic/"neutral" hardening. much less problems for fish.. AND metals ;)
12:57 PM LeelooMinai: Right, so silicone-based, but different chemistry.
12:57 PM Loetmichel: and that includes any pcb traces
01:44 PM Crom: all the cutting i did yesterday I haven't lost a step... then again I'm running closed loop steppers. I was using a 30 degree engraving tip for the cutting of the masonite. gives me a reliief angle for using a pen to mark the foam
01:45 PM Crom: raising the Z to 150mm is nice.. that sharp tool is out of my was for loosening clamps
02:18 PM Simonious: too many options http://www.predictiveanalyticstoday.com/open-source-dashboard-software/ !
02:32 PM phipli: jthornton: what is the issue?
02:32 PM phipli: you use it instead of the arduino
02:32 PM phipli: not with it
02:32 PM phipli: it will drive the relay board
02:36 PM phipli: guess he is in the JT-Shop at this time of day
02:40 PM JT-Shop: more like JT-At-the-industrial-park
02:40 PM JT-Shop: phipli: which one do you have?
02:49 PM Phiplii: I have some of those
02:50 PM Phiplii: go to the boards manager and search for esp8266
02:50 PM Phiplii: you can then load straight into it
02:51 PM Phiplii: the pins are 5v tolerant, and 3.3v is enough to trigger a 5v relay
02:51 PM Phiplii: so power the relays off the 5v pin
02:58 PM JT-Shop: https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B017GPEFN4
02:58 PM JT-Shop: I have those
03:01 PM Phiplii: ah, I thought you said you got this : https://www.amazon.com/HiLetgo-Version-NodeMCU-Internet-Development/dp/B010O1G1ES/ref=pd_bxgy_23_img_2?_encoding=UTF8&pd_rd_i=B010O1G1ES&pd_rd_r=8BK0EMJ9RY8GVQ39X90E&pd_rd_w=Z6cmN&pd_rd_wg=kyhRb&psc=1&refRID=8BK0EMJ9RY8GVQ39X90E
03:01 PM Phiplii: urgh. spam url
03:02 PM Phiplii: the main issue with the one you have is the number of pins
03:03 PM Phiplii: and a lack of voltage converter for the power
03:03 PM Phiplii: you have to make a breakout board to program them
03:05 PM Phiplii: or you can use them as an external radio if you sort out a 3.3v power supply (the 3.3 pin on an uno doesn't provide enough juice)
03:05 PM Phiplii: they make cool mini dataloggers
03:05 PM Phiplii: but the setup is a bit more faff
03:08 PM JT-Shop: I was looking at that one then you said you had less pins lol
03:10 PM Phiplii: :)
03:10 PM Phiplii: the one I have is called a "D1 mini"
03:11 PM Phiplii: I'll find a project to make sure you can use the others :)
03:12 PM JT-Shop: https://www.amazon.com/WINGONEER-NodeMCU-Arduino-compatible-ESP8266/dp/B06XHH4X2T/
03:14 PM Phiplii: yeah. cheaper on ebay
03:14 PM Phiplii: $3.50
03:15 PM Phiplii: but that is the exact one
03:17 PM JT-Shop: ah I see the usb port now
03:20 PM Phiplii: :)
03:44 PM Phiplii: http://iot-playground.com/blog/2-uncategorised/41-esp8266-ds18b20-temperature-sensor-arduino-ide
03:51 PM Phiplii: http://iot-playground.com/blog/2-uncategorised/40-esp8266-wifi-relay-switch-arduino-ide
04:45 PM Deejay: gn8
05:13 PM CaptHindsight: Simonious: which one did you decide to use?
05:21 PM skunkworks: Sigh... http://www.machsupport.com/forum/index.php/topic,35157.0.html
05:42 PM cradek_: skunkworks: I'm sad for him, too
05:42 PM cradek_ is now known as cradek
05:43 PM -!- #linuxcnc mode set to +v by ChanServ
09:04 PM LeelooMinai: A video/lecture on weldability of diffrent steel: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o5pHYmKTTXA&list=PLtsCbF7YOOwjLGSfkPQGBxoFkVyFNUotZ&index=3
09:04 PM LeelooMinai: The guy has a lot of useful info on his channel.
10:44 PM MacGalempsy: yo
11:08 PM AndroUser: Hey guys, I'm thinking about getting this spindle motor and controller at the same time I do a belt upgrade on my HF 44991 mini mill. I was thinking I would do a 2:1 reduction so i could have a max spindle speed of 12K RPM. I wasn't going to install multiple pullies. Thoughts?
11:08 PM AndroUser: http://www.automationtechnologiesinc.com/products-page/cnc-milling-spindle/milling-spindle-1100w-1-5hp-max-6000rpm-brushless-motor-and-driver/
11:09 PM AndroUser is now known as cncnoob
11:16 PM MacGalempsy: Just saw a sweet sticker on the rig.
11:17 PM MacGalempsy: "This machine does not have a brain, so you must use your own."
11:19 PM Kevin`: how cheap =p
11:44 PM LeelooMinai: It was the operator trying to send a message to the machine though.
11:47 PM hazzy: :D