#linuxcnc Logs
Apr 13 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:11 AM Crom: http://www.ebay.com/itm/4pcs-Set-Of-SCLCR-12mm-Lathe-Index-Boring-Bar-Turning-Tool-Holder-With-CCMT-09T3-/371668995042
12:13 AM Crom: Think this will be my next ebay purchase
12:27 AM CaptHindsight: http://www.ebay.com/itm/222463288659 Current bid: US $2,425.00 but you have to get it out of his basement
12:56 AM Crom_: ok connected to raspberry pi
12:57 AM Crom_: backing up home dir to TB drive... when Thats done I can switch lappies
01:50 AM Crom_: ok on stinkpad
02:37 AM MrSunshine: hi, is linuxcnc 32bit or 64 bit? have an old computer i want to run it on that doesnt have 64bit cpu =)
02:37 AM archivist: was 32, now 64 enabled
02:39 AM MrSunshine: hmm, well where do i find a 32bit install then? doesnt mater if its a bit old version of linuxcnc =)
02:39 AM archivist: it is rather naughty that the docs dont say which
02:40 AM MrSunshine: mm
02:40 AM archivist: I bet the iso is still 32
02:40 AM MrSunshine: i guess almost everything is 64 bit these days but still =)
02:41 AM MrSunshine: oh well ill just download it and check the files in the iso :P
02:41 AM MrSunshine: still not used to have 250mbit fiber connection :P
02:41 AM archivist: next iso probably will be 64 due to the OS it's based it on being 64
02:41 AM MrSunshine: quite an upgrade from 6mbit adsl :P
02:42 AM archivist: I am on a slow adsl, they want too much money for upgrade here
02:42 AM MrSunshine: from about 600 SEK/Month to 400 SEK/Month .. that is i payed 600 for the adsl and 400 for the fiber :P
02:43 AM MrSunshine: tho its 18 000 SEK in installation cost :P
02:43 AM Deejay: moin
02:44 AM archivist: there is one supplier for basic infrastructure here, so fibre to a street box then copper is the best I can have
02:49 AM Crom_: ouch in any money...
02:51 AM Crom_: running dual headed... 2.3Ghz Core 2 T7600 fastest Socket M CPU so no upgrading this CPU... T60 in hardware only supports 3GB RAM even if you have 4GHZ in machine...
02:51 AM Crom_: running dual headed... 2.3Ghz Core 2 T7600 fastest Socket M CPU so no upgrading this CPU... T60 in hardware only supports 3GB RAM even if you have 4GB in machine...
02:52 AM tjtr33: Crom got your files sorted, the single "uint8_t serialportmapRx[SERIALPORT] = {15,17,19};" goes into the pde/ino file? yes?
02:52 AM MrSunshine: looks like the live kernel on the iso is 32bit atleast so i guess its 32bit then =)
02:52 AM Crom_: tjtr33: I just realized most of the ino is missing from the last pastebin
02:53 AM tjtr33: np, i can just cat it onto what you posted earlier
02:53 AM Crom_: yes {15,17,19} into ino
02:53 AM tjtr33: thx!
02:56 AM Crom_: ok updated.. ino is all there again
02:56 AM tjtr33: CaptHindsight, did you ever hack leds into an lcd projector to replace expensive bulbs?
02:56 AM tjtr33: i read they are weak but interweb is fulla bad info ;-) ( maybe for SLA ?)
02:56 AM tjtr33: Crom, thx, will update
02:58 AM Crom_: Need to check the 6 button 16x2 LCD screens and see which pins they use... Might be able to get X+- Y+- Z+- out of the buttons
03:00 AM Crom_: tjtr33: hehe.... Trying to find a LED replacement for a bulb in a Altman Ellipsoidal Stage Lamp. 575W is a bit pricey in amperage.... I'd rather spend more to replace the bulb than run another generator just for elipsoidals
03:01 AM tjtr33: stage lighting can be expensive, i bet that's illuminate this tiny lcd screen ( or melt it )
03:03 AM Crom_: Last year we spent $4000 on new lights and a computer to run them
03:03 AM Crom_: hell we ran 5 years on the cheap ass lights I found...
03:05 AM Crom_: I think we had $3000 over 5 years in LED's, then last years $4000 for all new lights
03:20 AM Crom_: hmmm pastebin is offering a lifetime account for $29.95 or a yearly at $23.95... hmmm if I had the money...
03:21 AM Crom_: $2.95 a month.... damn you Veterans Administration! I want my money!
03:30 AM Crom_: tjtr33: I've done some more editing.. and doing some more to realign some pins... Pins 42-49 are all PORTL... Toolchanger pins? relays?
03:33 AM tjtr33: cool, i'm reading about image maps in python, attempting to use the arduino/teensy pinout pictures as configuration tool.
03:33 AM tjtr33: each pin has several choices but they could be radiobuttons. i imagine: click your choice & get a new config.
03:36 AM tjtr33: just dloaded the newest, thx
03:36 AM Crom_: well it's also how you use it.. attachInterrupt(4,change); I think is pin 2 as INT4. Then there is pinMode(2,output); makes it a digital out pin..
03:37 AM Crom_: but one use at a time.
03:40 AM Crom_: nother save
03:43 AM Crom_: oops using # for comment in .ino... adding // as needed
03:45 AM Crom_: gonna have to change the login on this section a bit. else if(x == 1) // get the number of output pins
04:14 AM IchGucksLive: hi from a cold easter Week germany
04:15 AM IchGucksLive: tjtr33: no sleep over the coding time
04:16 AM IchGucksLive: bye till later
04:22 AM tjtr33: hello you must be going ;-)
04:37 AM MacGalempsy: hello
04:48 AM MacGalempsy: thia has got to be the slowest night ever!
04:50 AM XXCoder: heys
04:51 AM XXCoder: Crom_: pastebvin offer for what?
04:52 AM gottaname|wurk: hey XXCoder
04:52 AM XXCoder: yo
04:52 AM gottaname|wurk: XXCoder, I have a sudden urgh to build a tachikoma
04:52 AM XXCoder: dunno what that is
04:52 AM gottaname|wurk: XXCoder, robot
04:52 AM gottaname|wurk: :P
04:52 AM gottaname|wurk: from ghost in the shell
04:52 AM XXCoder: sorry pretty tired, ran that office mill lol
04:52 AM XXCoder: it may be tiny but it makes more mess than all other machines combined :P
04:53 AM gottaname|wurk: I'm fucking off for the long weekend in like, 1 hour's time
04:53 AM XXCoder: interesting looking machine
04:53 AM gottaname|wurk: yes
04:53 AM gottaname|wurk: its not too difficult to build
04:53 AM gottaname|wurk: essentially its a quadruped with bells and whistles
04:54 AM gottaname|wurk: maybe need like 12 servos for the legs, 4 wheel drive systems
04:54 AM gottaname|wurk: 4 more for the arms
04:54 AM gottaname|wurk: 2 servos for the rear
04:55 AM gottaname|wurk: anyhow XXCoder
04:56 AM gottaname|wurk: so is a DIY CNC machine worth it for metal parts?
04:56 AM gottaname|wurk: or buying a commercial one making better sense?
04:56 AM XXCoder: its hard to say
04:57 AM malcom2073: If money is no object buying always makes more sense. If you're in it for the hobby of building a machine, diy all the way
04:57 AM gottaname|wurk: XXCoder, or maybe build a ultra large format 3d printer
04:57 AM gottaname|wurk: wheeeee
04:59 AM XXCoder: so hobby or buy gotta heh
05:10 AM gottaname|wurk: XXCoder, wonder how much it'll cost to build a 1m build space printer
05:12 AM XXCoder: lol dunno
05:15 AM gottaname|wurk: corexy design lol
05:26 AM MacGalempsy: check in #reprap. that big will have a hard time with bed heating
05:27 AM MacGalempsy: you get differential warpage. so probably pla is the best shot for a huge printer
05:27 AM MacGalempsy: no heated bed required
05:30 AM jthornton: morning
05:33 AM XXCoder: hey jt
05:36 AM Mibka_: I have ordered a co2 laser cutter. It's that chinese blue box commonly referred to as K40 ... When using a machine like this, do I need a protection glasses?
05:36 AM XXCoder: unless glasses covering it also block laser freq, yes.
05:37 AM XXCoder: I'd suggest wear it anyway, but then losing eyesight is one of my fears lol
05:38 AM Mibka_: it's a box like this : https://i0.wp.com/www.manmademayhem.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/01/CO2-Laser-Engraver-Machine-SH-K40-Cutting-220V-40W-Laser-Cutter-Engraving.jpg?w=800 .. It has a cover and a glass. I'm not sure if the glass is supposed to filter the laser freq.
05:38 AM enleth: that wavelength is being blocked by almost *anything*
05:39 AM enleth: you have to look very hard to find a material transparent to it, which is why lenses and half-mirrors for CO2 lasers need to be made of weird exotic materials
05:39 AM enleth: so *any* glasses block it
05:40 AM enleth: and *any* material transparent to visible light also does except some very special weirdo ones you definitely don't have around
05:40 AM Mibka_: Okay, so I don't need to order a protection glass, right? It should be safe operating it as is
05:40 AM enleth: well, you might want to
05:40 AM enleth: but actually any safety goggles will do
05:40 AM XXCoder: enleth: isnt first surface mirrors do fine?
05:41 AM enleth: the thing is, the case is perfectly sealed against accidental reflections through cracks and openings
05:41 AM enleth: *is not
05:41 AM enleth: XXCoder: what
05:41 AM XXCoder: first surface mirrors mean its top surface is silvered not back of it
05:42 AM enleth: but do fine for what?
05:42 AM enleth: tl;dr stray reflections from a CO2 laser are dangerous, but any glasses thick enough that you can see they're melting and get out of the way before they melt through are fine
05:43 AM XXCoder: oh for co2 laser
05:46 AM enleth: same with the window in the cover, if you see it melting and burning through, start reaching for the e-stop and turn your head back, as that's the only way this wavelength gets through
05:46 AM enleth: to be honest, calling 10.4um "light" is a bit of a stretch
05:47 AM MacGalempsy: hi jt
05:47 AM XXCoder: techinically ALL freq is light
05:47 AM XXCoder: from gammas to very long wavelengths
05:47 AM XXCoder: we can see only tiny section of it really.
05:48 AM MacGalempsy: electron flow
05:48 AM enleth: yeah, but the way far IR behaves, it's hardly comparable to the visible spectrum
05:48 AM jthornton: morning Mac
05:48 AM MacGalempsy: did u get the cover quality control machine shipped?
05:48 AM enleth: you could call it "coherent radiant heat emission" and the practical implications of that name would match its behaviour better
05:53 AM Mibka_: enleth: okay, well I was going to order these: http://www.ebay.de/itm/CO2-Laser-Protective-Goggles-Double-Layer-Professional-Glasses-10-6um-OD-7-/132155567014?hash=item1ec515eba6:i:132155567014 .. Guess I should be fine with those ;)
05:56 AM enleth: Mibka_: should do, I guess. not sure how relevant it really is to claim that it stops 10um specifically, considering that almost everything stops it, but if "double layer" means it takes a moment to get a hole in it and visibly melts in the process, it should be perfect.
05:58 AM Mibka_: enleth: well, it doesn't say much about what "double layer" means ;)
06:00 AM sync_: not sure if I would trust a chinese laser safety goggle, I usually just buy laservision ones
06:00 AM enleth: for any visible frequency, sure
06:00 AM Mibka_: something like these ? http://www.laservision.nl/nieuw-lichtgewicht-laserbril/
06:00 AM enleth: for that one, it's really a matter of how long it takes to get a hole in them
06:01 AM enleth: I mean, even the shittiest ones won't be transparent to it
06:01 AM enleth: they might just take too short a time to burn through for you to notice
09:39 AM yasnak: https://youtu.be/eDfVRPxMIYY?t=253
09:39 AM yasnak: I bet the programmer hated this job
09:40 AM gregcnc: C axis has me all confused
09:42 AM enleth: what's confusing about it?
09:43 AM gregcnc: axial tool offset has the tool on spindle center. measured tool radius results in undersize parts
09:51 AM enleth: Crom_: I think it was you that mentioned pink/reddish coloration of the inner tube of a CO2 laser as a sign that the tube is used and parasitic electroplating occured
09:51 AM enleth: Crom_: do you know of any sources to back it up?
09:52 AM yasnak: c axis interpolation?
09:53 AM yasnak: ball or stub?
09:53 AM yasnak: is the tool off-axis or centered perfectly for sure?
09:54 AM enleth: shouldn't a flat end cutter actually be off-axis for better finish?
09:54 AM enleth: the center kinda doesn't really cut
09:54 AM gregcnc: polar interpolation, tool indicated
10:12 AM gregcnc: maybe breakfast and more coffee will help
10:25 AM yasnak: yeah stubs don't do well on center :P but if its only off in a portion vs all of it just offset it out? lol
10:25 AM yasnak: its hard to say without seeing, i'm sure you'll figure it out. I've needed some waking up this morning too
10:30 AM gregcnc: what bothers me is the manual gives a fixed X offsat for the axial tool. indicating said it wasn't on center so I adjust as normal. now I'm not sure to adjust X offset or tool rad this is new to me
10:58 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Is there a way to have a relay energized or access to python when the stop button is pressed, so I can raise spindles and do some cleanup?
11:07 AM [cube]\ is now known as [cube]
11:09 AM enleth: R2E4_bevins_2: I'm doing that using classicladder
11:09 AM R2E4_bevins_2: huh? How are you doing that?
11:10 AM R2E4_bevins_2: oh, yeah, input on program stop the fire an output?
11:11 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I need to make sure when I stop or program ends all my spindles are up.
11:11 AM enleth: I've just got a bunch of axis/hal/motion pins hooked up as cl inputs and all mesa outputs as cl outputs, one of them did that
11:11 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Was thinking to do it in python with a M100 code....
11:11 AM enleth: one of the pins, that is
11:12 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Yeah, that could work....
11:12 AM R2E4_bevins_2: input on prgram stop, I will RaiseAllSpindles
11:13 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I got all of the connected to digital outputs also, so I dont know if that will work thogh.
11:14 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I have a feeling running a python script from a M100 user def code wont self.execute("M64 P1")
11:15 AM enleth: I can't really advise on scripting, haven't done that in linuxcnc yet, but if you want any lower-level logic, use cl
11:16 AM enleth: it might me just me, but IMHO it's much better than HAL logic components
11:16 AM enleth: as in, way easier to maintain, modify and debug
11:16 AM enleth: even with the clunky outdated editor (really could use an update to the upstream version)
11:17 AM Jymmm: enleth: So, when are you going to rewrite it?
11:18 AM enleth: when I get to it on my TODO list? it's regrettably long, though.
11:20 AM Jymmm: Nothing a road flare and 2 gallons of gasoline couldn't resolve.
11:20 AM R2E4_bevins_2: rewrite the interpreter instead...
11:21 AM enleth: seriously though, I *am* trying to get my friends interested in contributing when I show them linuxcnc, and the ladder editor is something I explicitly mention as needing attention from a UI/UX developer
11:22 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I dont think it is that simple. CL is a project in itself, and it has not been updated in a long while within Linuxcnc, so it would be a major ordeal to get the latest version into Lcnc.
11:23 AM enleth: I am aware of that, although I'm not really sure if it wouldn't be better to fork the UI part
11:23 AM cradek: we've updated it a few times
11:23 AM cradek: yes it's work
11:24 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I kinda like CL. Once you understand the interface, it is fun programming.
11:24 AM cradek: yeah
11:25 AM enleth: yeah, ladder logic itself is fun and easy to use
11:25 AM cradek: I like how the screen is the running program, the source code, the debugger, all in one
11:25 AM cradek: it's very visual
11:25 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I like that you dont have to shutdown Lcnc, when changes are made....lol
11:25 AM R2E4_bevins_2: and restart it...
11:26 AM enleth: it's just that the editor would benefit enormously from an even more "streamlined" editing mode, where the editing widgets are rendered in-place within the program area, especially for things like horizontal/vertical connections or swapping NC/NO coils
11:29 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Remap is working flawlessly now with my toolchanger
11:30 AM JT-Shop: nice
11:30 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Its so smooth......
11:30 AM JT-Shop: you made a video of it yet?
11:31 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I have a few, let me check.
11:32 AM R2E4_bevins_2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lHe3fK_vKsQ
11:32 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Theres a small one.
11:33 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I still need very minor adjustments on my TC pos into pocket on the 1st pocket but it works great.
11:33 AM cradek: R2E4_bevins_2: that's awesome
11:33 AM R2E4_bevins_2: Just need to figure out when I stop with stop button in axis, it raises all my spindles
11:34 AM R2E4_bevins_2: done in pure python
11:34 AM gregcnc: https://youtu.be/viWEYNVGwY4 how many machines have two carousels? I don't think I've ever seen it
11:35 AM cradek: wow
11:35 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I changed up my structure a bit and droptool and pickuptool is only self.execute Gcode.
11:36 AM gregcnc: this youtuber does a lot of linuxcnc conversions it seems
11:36 AM R2E4_bevins_2: I'd like to see that remap..
11:40 AM pcw_home: spindle indexing with 2 spindle index positions
11:47 AM FAalbers: Honestly , this is one great video ... It totally turns into every supject amaginable !! :) https://www.facebook.com/LilDickyRap/videos/1405755082796953/?hc_ref=NEWSFEED
11:47 AM FAalbers: Oh shit ! Soooooryyy ! Wrong channel !!!!!
11:47 AM FAalbers: Please disregard !
11:54 AM skunkworks: wouldnt have to be a remap..
11:59 AM IchGucksLive: hi
12:02 PM DrippityDrops1 is now known as DrippityDrops
12:02 PM nallar is now known as Ross
12:06 PM JT-Shop: I guess to update Andy's question about how many I'm making... it
12:06 PM JT-Shop: s 2 now
12:08 PM R2E4_bevins_2: skunkworks: yeah, the axis is not moving. I wuld do a remap, cause I hate the awkward programming of NGC o-word sub.
12:08 PM R2E4_bevins_2: IchGucksLive:
12:08 PM R2E4_bevins_2: Hi Ich
12:09 PM IchGucksLive: ;-)
12:09 PM R2E4_bevins_2: I got it working... Thanks Ich
12:10 PM IchGucksLive: NP
12:10 PM IchGucksLive: i woudt in first try to use UserMcodes
12:10 PM IchGucksLive: as they work always
12:12 PM R2E4_bevins_2: I'm not using any Mcodes yet, except for M66, I use that one alot.
12:14 PM IchGucksLive: as i told you they are free of use M100-M200 they can do hal operation
12:15 PM IchGucksLive: can start python scripts wait for resolt and reimport the answer to the axis
12:21 PM R2E4_bevins_2: Will I have access to the interpreter within an mcode python file?
12:23 PM IchGucksLive: i dont know that
12:23 PM IchGucksLive: it is not soposed to work that way as i understand
12:26 PM Crom: I so need to get a watt meter. Measure how much power I'm saving
12:27 PM Crom: 23v at 7amps hmm 161watts
12:28 PM IchGucksLive: so 20cent a hour
12:28 PM Crom: Saving at least 17 cents a hour
12:29 PM Jymmm: Crom: https://www.amazon.com/P3-P4400-Electricity-Usage-Monitor/dp/B00009MDBU/
12:29 PM gregcnc: 23V?
12:29 PM gregcnc: solar?
12:29 PM Jymmm: Oh solar.... hang on...
12:30 PM Crom: Think I'm barely using 20w now
12:30 PM Jymmm: Crom: https://hobbyking.com/en_us/turnigy-180a-watt-meter-and-power-analyzer.html
12:30 PM Crom: No my funky transformer in the cnc supply
12:31 PM Jymmm: Bah
12:31 PM gregcnc: saving power vs what exactly?
12:31 PM R2E4_bevins_2: IchGucksLive: using set motion.digital.output-01 to true?
12:31 PM Crom: Using the integrated closed loop steppers
12:31 PM IchGucksLive: yes
12:31 PM Jymmm: If it's a xmfr then is the primary 120VAC? If so, the kill-a-watt will work
12:31 PM Crom: Vs normal drivers and steppers
12:32 PM Crom: Yep
12:32 PM Crom: Kill-a-watt thats the name! Thanks
12:32 PM Jymmm: Crom: Thats what I linked above
12:32 PM archivist: one makes sure the motors drive the load, fsck what power they use
12:33 PM Crom: I'm in bed on my phone
12:33 PM Jymmm: Crom: cant get a date huh?
12:33 PM Jymmm: Crom: Is there an app for that?
12:34 PM Crom: No my wife has a late appt for radiation, so we're still in bed with the animules...
12:35 PM Crom: Well 2 out of 3 critters
12:35 PM Jymmm: Crom: Well, she doens't have to shave or hit the hair salon
12:36 PM Crom: Daisy the white constipated dog, and Floppette the definition of feline paralysis
12:36 PM Jymmm: Crom: Get her a badass bandana https://cdn.shopify.com/s/files/1/0108/1472/products/BA304-Badass-Bandana-front_grande.png?v=1332187255
12:37 PM Crom: She has tons of hats
12:38 PM Jymmm: Crom: Screw the hats, with a badass banadana she can own it!
12:40 PM Crom: My wifes best bud... Is moving to Virginia City, NV to become the blacksmith. Vakerie metal works on Facebook... She's more of an issue than the chemo and radiation ever was.
12:41 PM IchGucksLive: R2E4_bevins_2: http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/gcode/m-code.html#mcode:m100-m199
12:41 PM Crom: Tyra freaks out, then calms, the goes off the rail again, freaking out.
12:43 PM Crom: Last night she looked at how much she spent of everything... That girl....
12:43 PM Jymmm: Crom: Just get her one of these anyway, couldn't hurt... https://www.zazzle.com/skull+pattern+bandanas
12:43 PM Jymmm: Crom: here we go... https://www.zazzle.com/feliz_muertos_happy_sugar_skulls_bandana-256333991503789526
12:46 PM Crom: Tall nordic blonde with huge tits... Kinda Valkerie ya know... She's really rocking it when she's got the pigs tails going... What red blooded american tourist ain't gonna stop and watch her beat metal....
12:48 PM Crom: She way stronger than i am... Way! At age 16, she qualified for ironman triathalon
12:49 PM Crom: Wife really like the sugar skulls
12:53 PM IchGucksLive: Crom not the right channel for this kind of talk
12:54 PM Crom: True...
12:55 PM Crom: All linuxcnc all the time gets a bit monotonous
12:56 PM IchGucksLive: its the same question and answers since 2008 for me
12:56 PM IchGucksLive: but im still here answering any Q
12:56 PM IchGucksLive: even the lowest level
12:57 PM Crom: Google images search: blacksmith dickens riverside, 1st three pictures are Ty
12:58 PM Crom: True... Been doing the same for linux since 1996...
12:59 PM gf is now known as gefu
12:59 PM Crom: Linux and the internet are almost the same age...
12:59 PM IchGucksLive: at that time i maybe even dident know that linux is a option
01:00 PM Crom: I was running xenix back in the 80's on a trs-80 model 12
01:00 PM Crom: Sco unix, bsd...
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: servus gefu
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: Crom did you see querry
01:01 PM Crom: Nope
01:01 PM IchGucksLive: dopple hit my nick and then write hi
01:02 PM Crom: Gf arrives, gf -> gefu, gefu leaves
01:02 PM IchGucksLive: wheezy trouble in bavaria
01:03 PM IchGucksLive: to many beers
01:03 PM Crom: All jessie here...
01:03 PM Crom: Though there are 2 ubuntu's running around
01:03 PM IchGucksLive: someone needs to get a RT or pae to work on 14.04
01:04 PM IchGucksLive: srvus gefu
01:04 PM Crom: I like my xfce windows manager... Unity drives me nuts
01:04 PM IchGucksLive: kein regen hier kalt und sonne
01:07 PM bbevins_ is now known as R2E4_bevins_2
01:12 PM Crom: IchGucksLive: by query thought you ment something from gefu
01:13 PM Crom: Gotta remember, i was once a blond
01:14 PM Jymmm: Crom: yellow teflon tape; cna craploads of white (thinner) be used instead? I have like 15 rolls
01:15 PM Crom: Jymmm: for temp work, yeah...
01:15 PM Jymmm: Crom: perm
01:15 PM Jymmm: Crom: Basically flipping that T 180 degrees
01:15 PM Crom: Put 5 layers on 5 complete wraps
01:16 PM Jymmm: s/on/or/
01:16 PM Jymmm: I cna do that =)
01:17 PM Crom: Yep yellow is thicker... But that's pretty much it...
01:18 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight posted this http://allthumbsdiy.com/plumbing/when-to-use-ptfe-teflon-yellow-or-white-tapes-or-pipe-dope. So NPT needs a sealant, but flare or brass-to-brass doesn't?
01:18 PM Crom: Thats correct
01:18 PM Jymmm: and plastic?
01:18 PM Crom: Brass flare fittings
01:19 PM Crom: Brass npt gets tape
01:19 PM Jymmm: Oh, what about brass compression?
01:19 PM Crom: Thats a flare fitting
01:20 PM Jymmm: Um, I saw both
01:20 PM Jymmm: flare alone, and compression alone
01:20 PM Jymmm: flare https://www.plumbingsupply.com/images/flare-fitting-flarexflare90.jpg
01:21 PM Jymmm: compression (no flare) http://img.directindustry.com/images_di/photo-g/86559-2657527.jpg
01:23 PM Crom: Commpression has a flare... it's the ferrul
01:24 PM Crom: the fitting is the female flare, flare fitting... the male is the fitting, female in the nut with flared tubing
01:25 PM Jymmm: ah, so the ring acts as a "sealant"
01:26 PM Jymmm: ...or ring/ferrrual combination.
01:26 PM Crom: Thread sealed... Isn't... There is a hole at the tips and roots of the thread...
01:28 PM Crom: Continuous metal to continuous metal is a seal. A thread isn't continuous it has a start and stop
01:31 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8
01:31 PM IchGucksLive: happy easter to all of you
01:32 PM Crom: turn around to start a kettle for tea and he runs off...
01:33 PM Jymmm: I've heard of dine and dash, but never tea and dash
01:34 PM Crom: steppers still only roughly 20 degrees about ambient
01:34 PM Crom: above
01:35 PM Jymmm: full or reduced current at idle?
01:36 PM Crom: integrated closed loop steppers... they are only using power to monitor where they are and probably a slight coil current
01:38 PM Crom: put a wrench on the end nut and tighten... till you move the shaft, it'll move it right back..
01:38 PM bbevins_ is now known as R2E4_bevins_2
01:39 PM Crom: best $114 per stepper I ever spent of OPM (Othrs Peoples Money)
01:40 PM Crom: clear paths are $257 for their cheapest...
01:40 PM Crom: plus shipping
01:48 PM Crom: morning
01:48 PM Deejay: hi crom
01:51 PM Crom: Morning Deejay
01:52 PM Crom: left the steppers on all night... comes out and they are sitting at 35C -- 10C above ambient
01:52 PM Deejay: sounds okay for me
01:53 PM Crom: not even warm enough to keep my tea warm.
01:53 PM Deejay: haha
01:53 PM Deejay: increase current ;)
01:54 PM Crom: can't... Integrated closed loop stepper...
01:54 PM Deejay: so 35C is when most time in standby?
01:54 PM Deejay: or in motion?
01:55 PM Crom: standby... motor's usually get cooler in motion...
01:55 PM Crom: mine get warmer, since more current is getting used.
01:57 PM Crom: I should setup a arduino to run it 50000 steps one direction raise dir pin, 50000 steps the other way with accelleration and let it run a couple hours
01:58 PM CaptHindsight: just FYI http://www.ebay.com/itm/Mean-Well-MDR-20-5-AC-to-DC-DIN-Rail-Power-Supply-5-Volt-3-Amp-15-Watt-/122214345925 ~$17 with shipping
02:02 PM Crom: hmmm... I should go to a DIN rail setup..
02:03 PM CaptHindsight: Crom: JT's store sells the DIN rail adapters
02:04 PM CaptHindsight: his are metal vs plastic like most of the automation vendors
02:05 PM JT-Shop: maybe the third time will be the charm
02:06 PM Crom: just saw this one http://www.ebay.com/itm/30W-5V-6A-Din-Rail-Single-Output-Switching-power-supply-AC-TO-DC-/262371678253?hash=item3d1692182d:g:BBoAAOSwsN9XBGh8
02:07 PM Crom: JT-Shop: url for your shop?
02:07 PM CaptHindsight: ships from China, I've been avoiding lots of those
02:08 PM CaptHindsight: I buy when I'm there or have things shipped that aren't too important
02:10 PM JT-Shop: www.mesaus.com
02:10 PM Crom: thanks
02:14 PM Tom_itx: just dropped a MOAB
02:14 PM Crom: I never got down there in the boot heel area... Funerals there were handled by flat rock AFB
02:14 PM Crom: springfield was the southeast as I got
02:15 PM JT-Shop: that's about 4 hours from here
02:18 PM Crom: my stomping area was basicall Joplin, to springfield, to little east of california, down the 70 to lawrence sp? KS
02:18 PM Crom: I was at Whiteman AFB
02:22 PM Deejay: hmm, mother of all bombs
02:23 PM Crom: Massive Ovrpressure Air Blast
02:24 PM Deejay: GBU43B!
02:24 PM Crom: May be a type a FAE
02:29 PM Crom: yep it's a thermbaric... Fual AIr Explosive
02:34 PM Crom: I love the non nuclear - nuclear affects test.. they built basically a hug water tower and filled it to the brim with ammonium nitrate and tnt and tons of primacord and squibs throught the mass... to get a timed propogation to get maximum blast effect
02:40 PM Crom: darn... time to take apart the T60 and replace the fan
02:48 PM CaptHindsight: Tom_itx: did someone not give up their seat or were there more baby pictures?
02:57 PM CaptHindsight: The weapon was developed for use in the Iraq war - at a reported cost of $16m ea
03:06 PM Crom: I think it's been used twice, both in Afghanistan
03:06 PM _methods: would be nice if we could get involved in somr more wars in some other more exotic locales
03:06 PM _methods: the whole desert thing is getting kinda boring
03:06 PM Crom: _methods: ROFLMAO
03:06 PM _methods: some place with really nice beaches
03:07 PM _methods: or skiing maybe
03:07 PM Crom: they're over too quick... Been there done that... Grenada and Panama
03:07 PM _methods: heheh
03:08 PM _methods: i'm thinking australia
03:08 PM CaptHindsight: nah it's mostly desert except for parts of the coast
03:08 PM _methods: damn
03:08 PM _methods: india?
03:09 PM CaptHindsight: lots of nice beaches
03:10 PM CaptHindsight: on the humid side though
03:10 PM _methods: hmmm
03:10 PM _methods: maybe greece or italy
03:10 PM _methods: meh nm we already did that before
03:10 PM _methods: ooooh i know
03:11 PM _methods: brazil
03:11 PM _methods: hot chicks and beaches
03:11 PM Crom: what's the one to the south... with all the Nazi's Evita's ... Yeah Argentina!
03:11 PM _methods: now i just need to trick cheeto mussolini into invading brazil
03:12 PM _methods: shouldn't be too difficult that guy don't seem to bright
03:12 PM CaptHindsight: Faulkands
03:12 PM Crom: that's British... mostly sheep shepards
03:12 PM _methods: oh is the stock market finally collapsing
03:12 PM _methods: sweet
03:13 PM CaptHindsight: gotta show em whos boss
03:13 PM _methods: took wall street long enough to figure that out
03:16 PM CaptHindsight: _mnah, this is almost the time to buy
03:17 PM _methods: buy at the top man
03:17 PM _methods: buy high sell low
03:17 PM CaptHindsight: buy high sell low?
03:17 PM _methods: hehe
03:17 PM Crom: first female muslim US judge found in river at ambient temp
03:18 PM _methods: oh i thought they were gonna try and do a little closing bell rally
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: yeah, wonder what that is all about
03:18 PM _methods: but nope lol
03:18 PM CaptHindsight: How I Turned $1M in Real estate Into $50 cCsh!
03:19 PM CaptHindsight: cCsh/Cash
03:19 PM _methods: hehe
03:25 PM CaptHindsight: I think they are still debating where to have the next war based on the highest ROI
03:26 PM CaptHindsight: instability and fear are great for controlling people but you don't want to waste money doing so
03:26 PM Jymmm: Wouldn't the oil pumps keep pumping if they dropped a nuke in the middle east?
03:31 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: Yeah, you probably dont want to watch "Saudi Arabia Uncovered" on netflix
03:31 PM _methods: https://laughingsquid.com/wp-content/uploads/2017/04/chemical-experiments-with-easter-peeps.gif?w=750
03:32 PM Crom: ya know.... May you live in interesting times is a curse....
03:32 PM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: always with the pron :)
03:33 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: FAR FAR FAR FAR from p0rn
03:33 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: it is ILLEGAL to even play music (guitar) in public
03:34 PM Crom: hehe... more than one kind of porn... I make cnc porn...
03:34 PM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: they step out of line and we'll attack Iraq again
03:34 PM Crom: go for the nerdgasms
03:35 PM Jymmm: CaptHindsight: Africa as a whole, is pretty bleek
03:35 PM Jymmm: less India and a few other nations
03:35 PM _methods: that's why we're invading brazil
03:35 PM CaptHindsight: Jymmm: well you have to watch out for the invisible angry man in the sky
03:35 PM Crom: Argentina!
03:35 PM _methods: argentina too fine
03:36 PM Jymmm: Ok, all the pear shaped continents
03:36 PM CaptHindsight: how about everything SOM (south of mexico)
03:36 PM Jymmm: no winter produce!
03:37 PM Crom: SOG South of Guatemala
03:37 PM Crom: BGC Between Guatemala and Chile
03:39 PM CaptHindsight: maybe just countries that begin with the letter H
03:40 PM XXCoder: what about canada eh?
03:40 PM _methods: who?
03:40 PM XXCoder: make yet another simpsons espode true
03:40 PM CaptHindsight: do they have beaches?
03:41 PM _methods: not even canadians want canada
03:41 PM CaptHindsight: Who would Canada invade?
03:41 PM _methods: monaco
03:44 PM CaptHindsight: i want more sports like this: http://bleacherreport.com/articles/2703278-runner-drinks-a-beer-for-every-mile-of-half-marathon-finishes-in-under-2-hours?utm_source=cnn.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=editorial
03:47 PM CaptHindsight: I'm seeing Newegg and Jameco sell on ebay now
03:48 PM CaptHindsight: maybe we''l soon see all the distis just selling on everyone else s site
03:49 PM Crom: I don't go to newegg or jameco anymore... so it makes sense
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: I stopped going to amazon since I can't tell how long it will take to arrive..
03:50 PM CaptHindsight: unless I join their service
03:50 PM gregcnc: did you see ebay is trying guaranteed delivery
03:51 PM gregcnc: I say trying but they are offering
03:51 PM CaptHindsight: how is that Prime thing going? How many items are available for 2-day delivery?
03:52 PM Crom: When I get money.. the 3040 is getting replaced with big, stiffer, fast, heavier machine
03:52 PM CaptHindsight: I never expect anything ebay to arrive soon unless I work it out with the seller in advance
03:52 PM Crom: and I'm getting a mill
03:54 PM CaptHindsight: Crom: 3040 like these? https://imagebin.ca/v/2TYvESEACWSs
03:56 PM Crom: similar...
03:57 PM CaptHindsight: good for non-contact work
03:58 PM CaptHindsight: or wood, foam, cheeses etc
04:00 PM Crom: this one http://i00.i.aliimg.com/img/pb/921/001/577/577001921_949.jpg
04:01 PM Crom: or real close to that one
04:02 PM XXCoder: lol thats basically same as mine
04:03 PM CaptHindsight: Crom: when we first got ours they had rusty fasteners and over 1mm of lash
04:03 PM Todd_Z: I want a cnc cheeze cutter!
04:03 PM XXCoder: todd theres $150 cnc routers now
04:03 PM CaptHindsight: did yours have nuts on the ends of the ballscrews for setting the preload?
04:04 PM XXCoder: its kinda overpowered for cheese but cheap anyway lol
04:04 PM CaptHindsight: ours did not, they just left a 1mm gap :)
04:06 PM Crom: XXCoder: check this out https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCcABri0zUjWkznbcT_17Lcw
04:06 PM XXCoder: looking
04:06 PM Crom: I got a piece of 40mm thick AL to do basically the same thing
04:06 PM XXCoder: nice table
04:06 PM XXCoder: dude
04:07 PM XXCoder: your Z stepper is insanely huge
04:07 PM XXCoder: so are other 2
04:07 PM Crom: Integrated Closed Loop Steppers
04:07 PM Crom: 283ozin 2nm
04:08 PM XXCoder: crazy.
04:08 PM XXCoder: mine is "standard" nema23sa
04:08 PM XXCoder: you need a 3d printer
04:08 PM XXCoder: I printed my tachmeter
04:08 PM XXCoder: *holder
04:09 PM XXCoder: whoa
04:09 PM XXCoder: so thats how you did limit switches
04:10 PM XXCoder: make hole attach I guess metal sensor to it
04:10 PM Crom: I have a wood shop just to the right of the 3040... band saw, chop saw brill press...
04:10 PM XXCoder: induction
04:10 PM XXCoder: and another on top of gantry for y
04:11 PM Crom: Y is the induction sensor on the front bottom, X is the hall effect on the left gantry tower same as rpm sensor for spindle. Z is a microswitch
04:11 PM XXCoder: you definitely need a 3d printer to print tach holder
04:12 PM XXCoder: is it opticil or hall?
04:12 PM XXCoder: im guessing optical due to black marks
04:13 PM Crom: uploading
04:13 PM XXCoder: your spindle PWM?
04:13 PM Crom: hall effect
04:13 PM Crom: 3 magnets in the fan epoxied in place. as is the fan
04:14 PM XXCoder: cool. mine is same, just waiting for damned magnet since I lost one that come with it lol (still needed more as one would cause imbalance)
04:14 PM XXCoder: cool
04:14 PM Crom: Linuxcnc is doing PID for spindle PWM
04:14 PM XXCoder: nice, thats ultimately my plan
04:14 PM XXCoder: sensor is there but useless now
04:14 PM Crom: black marks is me rubbing the chrome off
04:14 PM XXCoder: lol ok
04:15 PM Crom: youtube saying about 63 minutes for video...
04:15 PM XXCoder: lemme get link
04:15 PM CaptHindsight: hhhhuuuuuggggggeeeee stepper
04:15 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gOWVCvER3i4
04:15 PM XXCoder: most recent run for my machine. sorry low quality video
04:16 PM XXCoder: but you will evenually see sensor on spindle
04:16 PM Crom: I'll have to switch machines to see that
04:16 PM XXCoder: it shows at 2:09 short
04:17 PM Crom: hmmm linuxcnc on pi... gotta see if there is a latency test...
04:17 PM XXCoder: ehhh dunno
04:18 PM chopper79: Afternoon all..... I messed up and forgot to write a command down. What I need to do is set the index enable for testing in hal configuration. I thought is went something like this.... sets hm_2 7i92.7i77.0.encoder.05 index-enable
04:19 PM chopper79: this does nto seem to work. I really wish I would have writent that command down
04:19 PM Crom: index-enable is a signal?
04:20 PM chopper79: Just checking to make sure mmy index mark is being seen.
04:20 PM Crom: that looks more to be a net command
04:20 PM chopper79: pcw_home: told me a command for setting the index for testing and it began with sets
04:20 PM chopper79: I just do not remeber the command
04:21 PM Crom: net index-enable 7i92.7i77.0.encoder.05
04:21 PM Crom: sets index-enable true if it's a parameter
04:22 PM chopper79: This is a command when in the hal configuration section (the one that shows all your inouts, signals, etc) There is a command line in the that you can execute
04:22 PM chopper79: That may be the one Crom
04:22 PM Crom: halshow
04:22 PM chopper79: Let me try
04:23 PM XXCoder: anyway crom I need to fix my design and print it again, it was slightly too small and badly printed lol
04:24 PM chopper79: no luck
04:24 PM XXCoder: once I dfixed it I'll link you the thingverse once I upload there. you can use some 3d print services so you have neat tach sensor holder :)
04:25 PM Crom: xx I'll probably make one out of AL once I get CAD/CAM nailed down...
04:25 PM XXCoder: or maybe that :)
04:25 PM XXCoder: so our machines can mill alum?
04:25 PM Crom: badly
04:25 PM XXCoder: I guess mine have to do it with very low chipload since of cheapass steppers
04:26 PM Crom: yep... I broke a bit monday I think
04:26 PM XXCoder: heh good thing my plan is almost all plastic and wood
04:26 PM XXCoder: I want to try nylon again, this time with tons of M0 and cooling
04:27 PM Crom: I hit home X, and there was something in the way... snap!
04:27 PM XXCoder: lol my clamps is so tall I cant just command it home
04:27 PM XXCoder: or it certainly will hit something
04:28 PM Crom: I shortened a 4mm end mill and made it too short... very little stick out if I seat it.. I have it pulled out probably 6mm
04:28 PM XXCoder: (its allthreads thats too tall)
04:29 PM Crom: I use 1/4-20 bolt that I grind the heads a bit thinner
04:29 PM XXCoder: I can't wait to try carving with v bits.
04:30 PM XXCoder: time to work later
04:32 PM Crom: hmmm just had a thought... I have a indicator arm I could drill and tap the spindle mount and mount it on there for holding air assist or a probe tip
04:32 PM Crom: probae only has to be relative...
04:40 PM chopper79: I remebered the command now
04:40 PM chopper79: sets spindle-index-enable 1
04:41 PM chopper79: So now after making my index sensor bracket (3D printed it) and mounting my quadrature sensor. I now finally have RPM feedback with index. on my spindle. Glad that is over with.
04:45 PM Crom: Just mounted one of these on my spindle holder
04:45 PM Crom: http://www.ebay.com/itm/Dial-Test-Indicator-Gauge-Tool-Flexible-Arm-Metal-Base-Holder-Stand-Useful-/262898807657?hash=item3d35fd7369:g:LSoAAOSwB-1Yy7Oy
04:49 PM Deejay: gn8
04:49 PM Crom: as soon as the video uploads, I put up the picture of the arm
04:49 PM Crom: Nite DeeJay
04:50 PM Deejay: nice day, crom ;)
04:51 PM JT-Shop: well crap make that 3 parts now
04:58 PM JT-Shop: well I have enough delrin for two more attempts at making that damn part
05:00 PM Crom: Video up... Arm and hand in the way for most of it
05:10 PM Crom: https://goo.gl/photos/vXzswh12jaiQz4YAA
05:11 PM Crom: 4mm tapped hole 11/64" drill
05:19 PM chopper79: So tried to do a simple tap gode (G84) and the z axis looks to be starting its retract before spindle reverses all the way. Any suggestions?
05:19 PM Crom: Only $8
05:20 PM Crom: It's a rigid tap? Any axial play in the tap?
05:22 PM chopper79: It would be rigid tapping.
05:23 PM chopper79: I am not using a tap right now just checking motion and spindle behavior.
05:23 PM chopper79: Seems to be making its retract on z axis before spindle reverses all the way.
05:23 PM chopper79: Almost like there is a delay in the spindle reversing
05:24 PM Crom: Wondering uf the neefs a dwell time at the bottom
05:24 PM gregcnc: how are you judging this?
05:25 PM Crom: Thats treating a symptom through
05:26 PM chopper79: Just watching it for now. I know I know..... this is not a good method
05:27 PM chopper79: I will chuck a piece of round in the holder and see if I can track a line
05:35 PM Crom: Sharpie in an indicator holder?
05:41 PM Crom: I hate mens waist bands
05:43 PM gregcnc: capthindsight galvo sla https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/1554809440/moai-affordable-high-resolution-laser-sla-3d-print
05:43 PM chopper79: Ok used a sharpie and a piece of round. The z axis is moving before the spindle reverses all the way
05:51 PM chopper79: Tried using a dwell to see if it would change things and if I use a p0.3 then it seems to track closer.
05:51 PM chopper79: So need to figure out why it is not tracking correctly.
05:55 PM chopper79: Could my acceleration be to high on my z axis?
05:56 PM Crom: Ahh. I figured out sewing machines problem... Needle plate is bent 2mm below the feed dogs in their low position
05:56 PM Crom: Which is why i keep 10 on hand at all times
05:57 PM Crom: I've gone through 6 in one weekend
05:58 PM Crom: Hmmm that was duck as well...
05:59 PM Crom: Canvas for non sewers
06:00 PM gregcnc: so that the duck in carhartt duck pants
06:01 PM Crom: Is a play on images...
06:03 PM Crom: Jymmm: and???
06:05 PM Jymmm: Crom: and what?
06:06 PM Crom: Tape, joints, is it working?
06:11 PM Crom: Yo pete
06:16 PM Jymmm: Crom: I'm not mucking with a gas line in a thunderstorm. TYVM =)
06:25 PM BeachBumPete: hello crom
06:26 PM Crom: Heh.. Wouldn't be prudent...
06:32 PM Crom: Sheeshz. Blind hole punch... Gotta clean it out every time I use it.
06:33 PM BeachBumPete: I am thinking about picking up another manual lathe to use while I tinker on the CNC lathe LOL
06:34 PM Crom: Might need to make a part...
06:40 PM CaptHindsight: gregcnc: surprised they raised that much
06:41 PM CaptHindsight: SLA with galvo is slow
06:42 PM CaptHindsight: for that small a print area LCD would be the way to go
07:33 PM Crom: i put the picture up in my album... trying to figure out the url
07:36 PM Crom: https://goo.gl/photos/vXzswh12jaiQz4YAA
07:39 PM Crom: now to go out to the garage and make a 5/16 plastic bushing with a 10-24 thread
07:44 PM jdh: that's some wiring ! :)
07:45 PM Crom: proof of proof of concept... it works...
07:46 PM jdh: yeah, mine often stays that way.
07:47 PM MacGalempsy: yo
07:52 PM Crom: ok Probe hooked up...
07:54 PM jdh: what is the part on teh table and what are you doing to it?
08:36 PM tiwake: any information on how well the ryzen platform works with linuxCNC?
08:41 PM archivist: I imagine the power handling might not play well with latency
09:12 PM CaptHindsight: tiwake: using up my supply of FM2+ APU's before moving to Ryzen and getting RTAI bumped up to support them
09:13 PM CaptHindsight: Intel was supposed to have some low latency Atom cpu's
09:13 PM tiwake: CaptHindsight: wish I had a supply of [anything]... evidently I owe the IRS $3,300 this year and oregon $800... I just sent oregon all my money...
09:14 PM tiwake: meh
09:17 PM CaptHindsight: the Ryzen's will just get lower in price
09:17 PM CaptHindsight: no hurry
09:18 PM chopper79: Is G84 an functioning syncronized move in LCNC?
09:19 PM chopper79: *a functioning
09:19 PM Crom: no idea
09:20 PM chopper79: I know G33.1 is but can not find any information about G84
09:26 PM enleth: eh, I just realized the ORAC's new VFD does not support enable/direction control
09:26 PM enleth: it needs separate forward/reverse signals
09:37 PM chopper79: Ok so it appears that my spindle is not synced with motion. When I use G33.1 the spindle starts to rotate but the z axis never moves. Also if I use a G84 the tap cycle will work but if I manually slwo the spindle speed down the z axis motion does not change with it.
09:38 PM chopper79: Which would lead me to think that the spindle and motion are not in sync. Now to figure out why and how to fix it.
09:38 PM CaptHindsight: enleth: are they both active high?
09:39 PM enleth: CaptHindsight: can be active low as well
09:41 PM enleth: but it's all or nothing, either both are sinking or both are sourcing
09:41 PM enleth: I've got a 7i76e with the ENA-/+ and DIR-/+ spindle outputs
09:42 PM enleth: and I'm trying to find some kind of "inhibit" function I could abuse on the VFD as an enable signal
09:42 PM enleth: but the obvious one requires re-asserting the forward/reverse signals to start
09:42 PM enleth: it does allow assigning more than one function to an input
09:43 PM enleth: and does have inverted versions of each function
09:44 PM enleth: so I could, for example, assign (forward AND not-reverse) to a single input and the VFD would constantly run, but switch direction based on that input's state
09:50 PM jdh: use cl
09:50 PM Crom: I have been this engineer!
09:50 PM jdh: (for the re-assert)
09:51 PM Crom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BKorP55Aqvg#t=143
10:00 PM Crom: I have succeeded in locking up linuxcnc with loading a file
10:01 PM Crom: with a 3512 byte file
10:03 PM CaptHindsight: Crom: I either run away or start adding up how many hours I can bill before they figure it out for themselves
10:04 PM CaptHindsight: as long as they pay in adavnce
10:06 PM Crom: heh
10:11 PM MacGalempsy: 150% down, no refunds
10:12 PM MacGalempsy: plus 50% on delivery
10:17 PM enleth: OK, figured it out
10:18 PM enleth: the VFD has a setting for what to do when both forward and reverse are requested - either run in reverse or halt
10:19 PM enleth: I set it to halt, configured one input to be (forward-when-low AND reverse-when-low), that made the VFD to unconditionally halt when this input is low
10:19 PM enleth: *but* it's halting actively, not coasting down as if the inhibit function was used
10:20 PM enleth: then I set another input to (forward-when-low AND reverse-when-high)
10:21 PM enleth: I guess this is immediately obvious to anyone used to Toshiba VFDs and their weird configuration interface, but it took me a couple moments to figure out
10:23 PM enleth: every single means of stopping this VFD other than forward/reverse exclusion either coasts, uses DC braking needlessly (and also coasts before applying braking, for some reason), or holds and requires the control inputs to be reasserted
10:27 PM enleth: they could have at least hinted at this configuration in the docs, though
10:27 PM enleth: they did describe a couple commonly used setups, just not this one
10:28 PM Crom: dam bit stinkpad... far left bottom key is supposed to be the control key darn it!
10:29 PM Crom: who the heck puts the fn key there dam!
10:37 PM tiwake: fff
11:19 PM enleth: OK, VFD works with 7i76e's spindle outputs
11:45 PM MacGalempsy: thats always a good sign!
11:48 PM chopper79: I finally got synchronized motion with Z axis and spindle.
11:55 PM chopper79: So does anybody here know where all the gcode is located at in lcnc? I am looking for all the motion stuff that deals with how lcnc handles the gcode.
11:56 PM enleth: you seem to have asked about two different things - did you mean gcode *handling*?
11:57 PM chopper79: yes
11:57 PM chopper79: sorry tired