#linuxcnc Logs

Apr 08 2017

#linuxcnc Calendar

12:00 AM DrippityDrops: I REALLY like the pocket NC I wish it were steel and had a more ridgid trunnion on it. I truly think it could do serious work at that point.
12:03 AM XXCoder: pocket nc? got link?
12:03 AM DrippityDrops: http://pocketnc.com
12:03 AM XXCoder: ahh yeah rhat one
12:03 AM XXCoder: super pricy
12:03 AM Corm is now known as Crom
12:03 AM Crom is now known as Corm
12:03 AM DrippityDrops: yeah, it is super slickthough, its just the work area / half trunnion that keeps it in the hobby sector
12:03 AM DrippityDrops: well rigidity overall
12:03 AM XXCoder: enclosure costs more than most of my machine.
12:04 AM XXCoder: you can buy 6 of my machines with pocketnc itself
12:06 AM DrippityDrops: if it were steel, servo, way covers, and coolant through ready.... it could be used in an industrial application
12:06 AM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5AXIS-mould-wood-working-mini-5-axis-cnc-router-machine-with-high-performance-AKM4040/32766993949.html
12:08 AM XXCoder: better AND cheaper https://www.aliexpress.com/item/5-axis-cnc-router-6040-with-high-performance-mini-cnc-milling-machine-free-shipping-to-Russia/1000002030739.html
12:08 AM DrippityDrops: Applicable materials: polystyrene foam(EPS), and wood, timber and non-metallic carbon hybrid materials.
12:09 AM DrippityDrops: why not start with something like this? https://youtu.be/ZiUolk1cJk8?t=45
12:10 AM XXCoder: lever control???
12:11 AM DrippityDrops: just add servo
12:11 AM DrippityDrops: these are some serious little machines
12:12 AM XXCoder: it just looks very unsafe to me
12:12 AM DrippityDrops: how?
12:12 AM XXCoder: one jog of lever and tool shatters
12:12 AM DrippityDrops: oh, thats a very common practice in production machinery
12:14 AM DrippityDrops: https://youtu.be/qA5dOShj29Q?t=46
12:14 AM DrippityDrops: production lathe is identical, hardinge made a great lathe
12:17 AM XXCoder: no precision control I would think
12:17 AM XXCoder: no way to move just .001"
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: much better accuracy than a regular toolpost
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: deadstops
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: never miss
12:17 AM XXCoder: stops can be set?
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: yes
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: but dead stops
12:17 AM XXCoder: ahh that does make a difference
12:17 AM DrippityDrops: its for quickly chucking multiple parts and doing an operation
12:20 AM DrippityDrops: such as form tool, chamfer, spot, drill tap, unchuck part, repeat
12:20 AM XXCoder: one thing I hate about my room - it always feel like air is liquidifing here
12:20 AM DrippityDrops: every part comes out the same, you just gotta take the time to set the machine up so you can run off a thousand items identicle
12:21 AM jym: ...or XXCoder
12:22 AM DrippityDrops: half thou is hard to hold on a janky machine
12:22 AM DrippityDrops: its hard enough to hold on a tight machine
12:22 AM XXCoder: its fairly hard even pon 6 million cell
12:22 AM XXCoder: *$5 milliomn
12:22 AM XXCoder: letting spindle cool down might be enough to scrap part
12:23 AM XXCoder: luckly its easy enough to just set 1000 rpm and leave it alone for 5 to 10 min
12:23 AM XXCoder: then run a part
12:24 AM DrippityDrops: in turning processes, a good shave tool can hold .0005 even on a spindle with .002 float
12:25 AM XXCoder: I remember someone discribing entry interview and process for hiring $100,000/year pay cnc machinist
12:26 AM XXCoder: I remember only some of tests, uncalibrated mic, one gage block, machine with massive .002 backlashes (older machine), program, 2 of raw materials
12:26 AM XXCoder: .0005" tol part, must make one successfully.
12:27 AM DrippityDrops: yeah sounds about right
12:28 AM DrippityDrops: a good machinist can make a junk machine do wondrous things
12:28 AM XXCoder: im middling cnc machinist, I doubt I will become awesome lol but I know well enough to run and fix stuff
12:29 AM XXCoder: I know enough to convert SV machine gcode to okuma and its ugly gcode requirements for example
12:29 AM XXCoder: I have much hate for okuma. much hate.
12:29 AM XXCoder: it is one and only one machine I know that will complain if for example it changes tool 1 to tool 1.
12:29 AM DrippityDrops: maybe you should start putting updated controls on older vmc's and turning centers
12:29 AM XXCoder: thats corprate job not mine
12:30 AM DrippityDrops: what work do you want to do?
12:30 AM XXCoder: for home, my culture related artwork
12:30 AM XXCoder: work, whatever company wants me to make.
12:31 AM DrippityDrops: I thought maybe you had interests in doing machine work on the side
12:31 AM XXCoder: I do
12:31 AM DrippityDrops: like start a little cnc shop
12:31 AM XXCoder: just not whatever others want me to make. I plan to make my own stuff
12:32 AM XXCoder: its likely far less money but whatever, I earn okay money at work.
12:32 AM DrippityDrops: lots of guys start out with a cnc then next thing they know they have a business and quit work =D
12:33 AM jym: XXCoder: I thought you made more money wearing fishnets?
12:33 AM XXCoder: nah that is free jym
12:33 AM XXCoder: youre welcome to come and sample
12:33 AM jym: XXCoder: You are such a slut, you know that?
12:33 AM XXCoder: oh wait sex?
12:34 AM DrippityDrops: lel. 1 down
12:34 AM XXCoder: drip one issue is that im damn lazy
12:34 AM DrippityDrops: *many hands*
12:36 AM XXCoder: lol
12:39 AM DrippityDrops: I got these turning jobs im turning down right now because the quantities are too low
12:40 AM DrippityDrops: like 300 pcs of this, 300 pcs of that
12:40 AM XXCoder: lol most jobs I run is less than 100
12:40 AM DrippityDrops: these are super easy jobs
12:40 AM XXCoder: unless its annoying as fuck part, then its 1000 of course
12:40 AM DrippityDrops: like charge $0.25 each
12:41 AM XXCoder: unless its fiberglass, then its 40 parts, but feels like 400,000
12:41 AM DrippityDrops: sounds like a horrible job to run
12:41 AM DrippityDrops: do you run any cnc lathes with live tooling?
12:41 AM XXCoder: fiberglass? heres a hint, I turn down tool diameter .0005" to .001" each part
12:42 AM XXCoder: I very rarely run lathes, and im little more than operator that time
12:42 AM DrippityDrops: I need a local cnc guy to pick up my short run work, none of the ones around here are setup for it tho
12:42 AM XXCoder: and base is .5" +- .001". which means sanding it down. know whats in those itchy joke packets? fiberglass powder.
12:43 AM DrippityDrops: they need barloaders and live tooling + pickoff/ subspindle
01:03 AM Corm: what's the gcode to clear G54?
01:04 AM XXCoder: thats coord
01:04 AM XXCoder: hmm
01:05 AM XXCoder: g53 is set it to machine
01:05 AM XXCoder: but some machines it must be stated each move, and some machines its set till other coord g code is used
01:05 AM XXCoder: linuxcnc dunno
01:05 AM Corm: G53 is nonmodal move
01:10 AM Corm: I have a Z abs 0000 g54 Z-0.0511
01:13 AM Corm: ahhh it was G49 screwing me up
01:13 AM XXCoder: ah yeah that'd mess with it
01:31 AM Corm: ok done for tonight...
01:32 AM Corm: g0y300 at F3600 crashed... at F2900 it was fine.. so 45mm/s is gonna be my top speed
01:32 AM XXCoder: im still stuck on what to make lol
01:33 AM Corm: tool table is in inches WTF?!?!?!?!
01:42 AM Corm: hmm do I use 4.0mm for a metric size?
01:42 AM XXCoder: ah your machine config is in inches
01:42 AM XXCoder: you can set machine to be metric
01:43 AM archivist: you can use the inch equivalent
01:48 AM Corm: ahhh... since I run G21 1/16 end mill is 1.587 not 0.0625
01:49 AM Corm: 1/8" is 3.175
02:00 AM Corm: just before I fixed my Y stepper step rate... I was trying to run a decking program... instead of doing a 60mm/s rapid it did a 120mm/s rapid and went 200mm instead of 100mm, Hit a AL 1/4 hold down. Cut 5mm into it before the holddown rotated out of the way. Didn't break the end mill either! 3000rpm.. 0rpm when it popped
02:04 AM XXCoder: crazy'
02:04 AM XXCoder: that is why I test sizes and expected movement before actually cutting anything lol
02:04 AM XXCoder: I use camera clipped on tool pointing down
02:04 AM Corm: I thought it was right...
02:05 AM XXCoder: its very easy to see distance traveled
02:05 AM Corm: I checked X not Y... DOH!
02:05 AM Corm: These stepper are amazing though!
02:05 AM XXCoder: yeah
02:06 AM Corm: i should set them to 800 step/rev... really get some speed out of them
02:08 AM Corm: just under 2 tenths a step... 0.00019685" step 0.005mm 5 micron's is ok by my book
02:08 AM archivist: dont ry for too much speed, the lose torque with rpm
02:09 AM Corm: integrated stepper... up to 6amp at for me 23v
02:10 AM Corm: just did a oops... 120mm/s hit a hold down... spindle at 3000rpm... cut a 5mm deep notch in it.. before the spindle stalled out and the holddown spun
02:11 AM Corm: stepper was set at 800 step rev, linuxcnc was thinking 1600
02:11 AM XXCoder: arch though spindle rpm is best at highest rpm, and lose torque as rpm goes down?
02:11 AM archivist: spindle is a different kind of motor
02:12 AM Corm: XXCoder: true... spindle and stepper are completely different types of motors
02:12 AM XXCoder: oh misread what you said bnm heh
02:13 AM Corm: scared me... But it really impressed the heck out of me...
02:13 AM Corm: Good Morning DeeJay
02:13 AM Deejay: moin
02:14 AM XXCoder: hey'
02:14 AM Deejay: sirs
02:14 AM Corm is now known as kf6pqz
02:15 AM kf6pqz: nice call you have there...
02:15 AM kf6pqz: I really needto study for extra again...
02:15 AM kf6pqz is now known as Crom
02:17 AM Crom: I've very happy today... got my jmc-motor.com iHSS57-20 2nm NEMA 23 integrated steppers today... got them all installed and finally configured. Sunday I find wire to correctly wire them up. Tomorrow Saturday I have to finish sewing a pair of pants
02:19 AM Crom: I think i will switch them to 800steps/rev... 1500rpm at 20000hz step rate
02:22 AM DrippityDrops: Mojn!
02:28 AM Crom: morning
02:30 AM Crom: man with a 1610 ball screw they'd fly! 250mm/s
02:31 AM Crom: only be 0.000492" per step... under 5tenths.. nice!
02:32 AM Crom: first!
02:32 AM Crom: just turned Saturday here...
02:32 AM XXCoder: 1610? isnt that 16 diameter, 10 mm per rotation?
02:32 AM XXCoder: same
02:32 AM Crom: XXCoder: yep
02:33 AM XXCoder: nice mine is 1204
02:33 AM Crom: as are mine...
02:33 AM XXCoder: im pretty amazed mine can do 200 mm/s on that.
02:33 AM Crom: delrin nuts... not even ball screw
02:33 AM XXCoder: 300 was smooth but that crosses entire long axis in a second and half.
02:33 AM XXCoder: ball screws here
02:34 AM XXCoder: and machibe so light it rocks it when it stops so yeah too fast LOL
02:34 AM Crom: switching to 800steps/rev I can do 210mm/s
02:34 AM Crom: 120mm/a
02:35 AM Crom: haven't pushed acceleration yet
02:35 AM Crom: had to slow down Z on jog.... kept crashing it jogging.. have to cycle power and rehome
02:36 AM DrippityDrops: nahhh, just open up that ferror a lil more =D
02:36 AM Crom: 55G on Y and 65 on X
02:37 AM Crom: DrippityDrops: giveme money and time I'll get there...
02:37 AM DrippityDrops: just swap to servi
02:37 AM DrippityDrops: servo
02:37 AM DrippityDrops: its not really that expensive
02:37 AM Crom: when I get to a 4'x4'
02:38 AM DrippityDrops: weeeeeeeeee https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=08zM0pswP14
02:40 AM XXCoder: crazy
02:40 AM XXCoder: can trust it to play knife hand :P
02:41 AM DrippityDrops: this would be fine for most people https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-Du3dR0DKI
02:42 AM XXCoder: cnc hobby. fun for ladies also
02:42 AM DrippityDrops: lol
02:42 AM DrippityDrops: I had some ideas for such things
02:42 AM DrippityDrops: hahaha
02:58 AM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/YiDs0R7E1g0
03:13 AM DrippityDrops: lel
03:13 AM XXCoder: its crappiest stirling I ever seen.
03:14 AM DrippityDrops: yeah but thats some serious motion
03:14 AM DrippityDrops: hahaha
03:14 AM XXCoder: indeed
03:15 AM DrippityDrops: XXCoder: you got 3d printer right?
03:15 AM XXCoder: current nonworking one but yes
03:16 AM DrippityDrops: when you fix er up, you should figure out a way to make sterling engine blocks and size it for test tubes
03:16 AM DrippityDrops: would be good christmas gifts
03:16 AM DrippityDrops: prolly pretty cheap too
03:17 AM XXCoder: meh dont really like test tube version
03:17 AM XXCoder: I would make B type
03:17 AM XXCoder: and get power from sun
03:17 AM DrippityDrops: whatevers clever
03:17 AM XXCoder: or power it to liquidify air
03:17 AM XXCoder: its almost there here, or in least feels like it. cold!
03:18 AM DrippityDrops: its been wind gusts and pressure changes here
03:18 AM DrippityDrops: lotsa rain
03:18 AM XXCoder: outside is coldish-cool
03:18 AM XXCoder: its my room
03:18 AM XXCoder: according to movie it means my room is haunted
03:18 AM XXCoder: in fact ghosts might be whispering insane things to me
03:19 AM DrippityDrops: oh, yeah sixth sense or something
03:19 AM XXCoder: good thing I cant hear anyway
03:19 AM DrippityDrops: I guess you dont realize how annoying it is to have stepper motors stepping away all the time
03:20 AM XXCoder: probbly.
03:20 AM DrippityDrops: do you have a screen in your room that has some displays on it, so you can visualize audio around you?
03:20 AM DrippityDrops: like microphone > audio bars?
03:21 AM XXCoder: nah
03:21 AM DrippityDrops: seems like it would be handy, so you know if something fell or is making a vibration
03:23 AM XXCoder: I suppose but then I have worked as cnc machinst for couple years so its fine
03:23 AM XXCoder: just pay attention and feel vibrations sometimes
03:24 AM DrippityDrops: i bet you are super sensitive to small vibrations
03:24 AM XXCoder: lol it used to be ricious, less now
03:25 AM DrippityDrops: I can feel a tool chatter through the floor sometimes but its at the same time im hearing it so, less profound than audio for me
03:25 AM DrippityDrops: nothing compares to putting your hand directly on the machine and feeling it vibe
03:25 AM XXCoder: wear noise cancelling head.. whatever word that is and feel stuff
03:33 AM DrippityDrops: I just opened VLC then told it to stream the microphone on my laptop, then enabled visualizations.... I should definately set this up on a probe type microphone to watch for vibration. I think piezoelectric pickups would be perfect
03:40 AM XXCoder: maybe
03:40 AM XXCoder: https://youtu.be/OIATKbSkYxw check this out
03:41 AM XXCoder: one of projects I was wondering about.
03:41 AM XXCoder: can make em with cnc router.
03:41 AM DrippityDrops: ok, I think i know what I was looking at
03:41 AM DrippityDrops: but then
03:41 AM DrippityDrops: no
03:42 AM XXCoder: its old style edge lit numvers
03:42 AM XXCoder: it pre-dated nixon number displays
03:43 AM DrippityDrops: ohhh
03:43 AM DrippityDrops: clever
03:43 AM DrippityDrops: I wonder how the person came to this conclusion
03:45 AM XXCoder: what conclusion?
03:45 AM DrippityDrops: that style of display
03:46 AM DrippityDrops: like, what path did they go down to figure out how to do that
03:46 AM XXCoder: ahh yeah the inventor
03:46 AM XXCoder: good question, as old days lights was hard to do
03:46 AM XXCoder: as you saw in video
03:46 AM XXCoder: guy had to fix bunch lughts
03:47 AM DrippityDrops: its amazing sometimes, you know how you figure out somethings, sometimes on accident, or from necessity, other times its just like "I wonder if....."
03:48 AM XXCoder: LOL https://youtu.be/pr1YRP6rWdc
03:48 AM XXCoder: yeah and sometimes being lazy leads to discoveries.
03:48 AM XXCoder: like pencillin
03:49 AM DrippityDrops: "if you want a job automated, put the laziest guy on the project"
03:50 AM XXCoder: I wonder if can do this with audino https://hackaday.com/2017/03/29/save-big-by-hacking-your-car-keys/
03:51 AM DrippityDrops: WTF
03:51 AM DrippityDrops: I JUST tested this yesterday
03:51 AM DrippityDrops: hive mind is strong
03:52 AM XXCoder: lol yeah? what was your conclusions
03:52 AM DrippityDrops: it works
03:52 AM DrippityDrops: my dad was complaining about his jeep key being $80
03:52 AM DrippityDrops: cause the regular key can open doors but not start it
03:53 AM DrippityDrops: so im like... well just make a copy of the and then leave the original next to the ignition thing....
03:53 AM XXCoder: I want a copy that can open door but are completely waterproof
03:53 AM DrippityDrops: IT WORKS
03:53 AM XXCoder: meaning no electrics
03:53 AM XXCoder: huh
03:53 AM DrippityDrops: im bad at english
03:54 AM XXCoder: when I had rfid key I tried opening door with non-rfid key works, but could not start engine even with rfid key right by the copy thats being used to start
03:54 AM DrippityDrops: if you try to make a copy of that key..... even though the metal and design is identicle it can make the car start but then it dies in like 10 seconds
03:54 AM DrippityDrops: it worked and I was able to let it run with a regular door key in
03:55 AM XXCoder: hm orginial was right by the copy when I used copy to start.
03:55 AM XXCoder: wouldnt it detect orginal rfid and work?
03:55 AM DrippityDrops: I had to try a couple times
03:55 AM DrippityDrops: I had to keep the handle part all the way up near ignitipon
03:55 AM DrippityDrops: and boop, works
03:56 AM DrippityDrops: then you can pull the key away and it stays running
03:56 AM XXCoder: interesting
03:56 AM XXCoder: too bad my car is newer one now
03:56 AM XXCoder: 2012
03:56 AM DrippityDrops: oh, this is just a jeep
03:56 AM XXCoder: does it still use rfid for key ID?
03:56 AM DrippityDrops: i dunno
03:57 AM DrippityDrops: all I know is the door key wont keep it running :P
03:57 AM XXCoder: lol ok
03:58 AM DrippityDrops: why would anyone even want that
03:58 AM DrippityDrops: $80 keys
03:58 AM DrippityDrops: or more
03:58 AM DrippityDrops: seems like a sham of some kind
03:58 AM XXCoder: no idea
03:58 AM XXCoder: good security but more money
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: who steals toyota
03:59 AM XXCoder: I mean, hotwiring car isnt possible.
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: :P
03:59 AM XXCoder: hah my toyata was stolen
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: lolol
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: not funny
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: hahahah
03:59 AM XXCoder: it was ugly 1988 car but..
03:59 AM XXCoder: boom stolen. :P
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: meh
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: prolly blessing in disguise
03:59 AM XXCoder: it was left 10 miles away.
03:59 AM DrippityDrops: the thing prolly bout to break down
04:00 AM XXCoder: I guess guy tried to drive it somewhere but well nobody else knows how to drive it properly
04:00 AM XXCoder: nah worked just fine
04:00 AM XXCoder: just very weak
04:00 AM DrippityDrops: makes me wonder how many thiefs we deterred by a stick shift
04:00 AM XXCoder: evenually sold it and bought mecury sable 1988
04:01 AM DrippityDrops: did you cruise it up and down the road
04:01 AM DrippityDrops: oh, eep I guess you prolly dont get that joke
04:01 AM DrippityDrops: hahaha
04:01 AM XXCoder: never raced it or anything
04:01 AM XXCoder: I started driving at 27 so yeah :P
04:03 AM DrippityDrops: its just this really shitty song about a guy singin "im gunna bayyyy me a muuuurcury and cruise it up n' down tha rooooadd"
04:04 AM DrippityDrops: how old are you now?
04:04 AM XXCoder: 41
04:04 AM DrippityDrops: my g/f is 26 and doesnt drive, she acts like its a bit too late to learn
04:04 AM DrippityDrops: shes prolly drive better than me
04:08 AM XXCoder: maybe dunno
04:08 AM XXCoder: https://hackaday.com/2017/03/28/source-parts-on-taobao-an-insiders-guide/ HMMM
04:11 AM DrippityDrops: okay so I never thought I would learn chinese looking for cnc parts
04:11 AM DrippityDrops: :)
04:11 AM XXCoder: aliexpress and banggood tend to be fine
04:16 AM DrippityDrops: I dont understand why my network cards are using eth4 and eth5
04:59 AM DrippityDrops: not that i care
05:00 AM XXCoder: unno heh
05:00 AM XXCoder: im now looking up on buying ford keys
05:00 AM XXCoder: because I have 2 keys, and since I have 2, I can program more keys "free"
05:00 AM DrippityDrops: you ever use any mesa ethernet based cards?
05:15 AM malcom2073: DrippityDrops: Left over udev rules
05:16 AM DrippityDrops: ah
05:16 AM DrippityDrops: thx
05:19 AM XXCoder: strange
05:19 AM XXCoder: part # matches few variants
05:19 AM XXCoder: some older key blade, or longer square type like mine
05:50 AM XXCoder: http://www.ebay.com/gds/How-To-Find-The-Correct-Key-Fob-For-Your-Vehicle-/10000000178396990/g.html
05:50 AM XXCoder: nice guide
07:52 AM {HD}: That edge lit numeric display is awesome. I dont know what its for but cool!
07:52 AM XXCoder: it is
07:56 AM sync_: XXCoder: what makes you think that having an rfid in the key doesn't make hotwiring possible?
07:57 AM sync_: usually you just flash the ecu trough the obd2 port with a firmware that has the immobilizer disabled and drive off
07:57 AM XXCoder: hmm new one to me
08:00 AM sync_: it makes it harder for someone just smashing your window and driving off, but usually that is not how cars are stolen
08:01 AM XXCoder: you seems knowledgable with cars
08:01 AM sync_: at least in the EDM
08:01 AM XXCoder: how do i find compitable key for my car? keyless system
08:03 AM sync_: no idea, searching on the internet probably is the easiest
08:05 AM malcom2073: XXCoder: Call a locksmith
08:05 AM XXCoder: and pay $30
08:05 AM XXCoder: er 300
08:05 AM malcom2073: My remote cost me $30, and that included programming
08:05 AM malcom2073: Oh, does yours have the key built in?
08:06 AM XXCoder: yeah
08:06 AM XXCoder: https://www.amazon.com/Discount-Keyless-Replacement-Compatible-OUCD6000022/dp/B01H902RU4/
08:06 AM malcom2073: If your car requires the key to be programmed (anything newer),a good locksmith will match amazon's pricing for the key, and only make money on labor for actual programming
08:07 AM XXCoder: 2 numbers match but not other 3
08:07 AM XXCoder: that confused me
08:07 AM sync_: in the end, who cares if the key is $300 at the dealer, it is not like you are loosing them left and right
08:08 AM XXCoder: since I still have 2 master keys I can easily add anotger key
08:08 AM XXCoder: otherwise adding new master key is expensive
08:08 AM XXCoder: that is why
08:08 AM sync_: but you still have two
08:08 AM sync_: so eh
08:10 AM lancaster-lanter: does anyone know where a compiled 3x20-2 firmware file can be found?
08:11 AM lancaster-lanter: It's not in the linuxcnc firmware
08:11 AM lancaster-lanter: And the one on Mesa's website appears to be out of date
08:14 AM lancaster-lanter: Or perhaps I should compile a firmware image from source?
08:16 AM XXCoder: sync_: you know of a way to figure if it is compitabloe? or maybe malcom2073 does heh
08:17 AM malcom2073: XXCoder: I just bought mine at a locksmith since the remote was separate
08:17 AM malcom2073: Dunno about the all-in-one keys
08:17 AM XXCoder: hmm yeah should call and see.
08:17 AM XXCoder: see if its cheap enough to not worry about
08:18 AM sync_: I mean, the easiest would be to look at the part number your current key has and then see
08:18 AM malcom2073: Free to ask about pricing :)
08:18 AM XXCoder: I want 2 master keys which isnt with me, AND non-electrics key (for opening door)
08:18 AM XXCoder: once locked myself out LOL
08:19 AM XXCoder: had to walk all way to home, luckly someone was awake so could drive me to my car
08:19 AM XXCoder: otherwise another hour back
08:19 AM malcom2073: I lost my keys once, had to have someone come up and cut new keys just to get in the car
08:20 AM XXCoder: well thanks
08:20 AM XXCoder: going to bed
08:21 AM sync_: I just have one key with me
08:22 AM sync_: with the remote
08:22 AM sync_: why would I take two
08:22 AM sync_: and use the nonexistant door lock
08:27 AM lancaster-lanter: This is the error message I'm getting from LinuxCNC
08:29 AM lancaster-lanter: <snip> board has FPGA '3s2000fg456', but the firmware in hm2/3x20-2/SV24S.BIT is for FPGA '3s1000fg456'
08:30 AM lancaster-lanter: I made the 3x20-2 folder and put the BIT file from Mesa into that
08:31 AM R2E4_bevins1: Morning, evening, afternoon!
08:41 AM JT-Mobile: morning from Maggie Valley with snow!
08:43 AM * JT-Mobile is off to breakfast now
09:10 AM archivist: <lancaster-lanter> <snip> board has FPGA '3s2000fg456', but the firmware in hm2/3x20-2/SV24S.BIT is for FPGA '3s1000fg456 ask pcw about that
09:16 AM lancaster-lanter: is pcw online?
09:17 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw, can you point me in the right direction with firmware for the Mesa 3x20-2 board?
09:18 AM lancaster-lanter: So far I've found software on Mesa's site, but it fails with an error message that I *think* is for the 3x20-1
09:18 AM archivist: just lurk and wait he generally notices
09:19 AM lancaster-lanter: ok thanks
10:23 AM IchGucksLive: hi all from a Sunny near sunner Day
10:23 AM IchGucksLive: in Germany
10:24 AM IchGucksLive: just briefly visit in from corn planting out to town BBQ
10:28 AM Deejay: o0
10:38 AM jym: Deejay: Mornin
10:39 AM jym: Deejay: I think secretly always wanted to be a weatherman ;)
10:39 AM jym: Deejay: I think IchGucksLive secretly always wanted to be a weatherman ;)
10:39 AM pcw_home: lancaster-lanter: I suspect you would have to build firmware for a 3X20-2 since its rarely used with LinuxCNC
10:39 AM pcw_home: (though the driver supports it)
10:40 AM jym: pcw_home: Hoe be the sheep this morning? Or is that goats?
10:41 AM pcw_home: Sheep, they are a bit soggy and smell like wet sweaters
10:41 AM jym: pcw_home: Ewwww, yeah, funky sheep not a good morning smell =)
10:42 AM jym: pcw_home: Unless they have made coffee and bacon of course
10:45 AM jym: cradek: You vegan or vegitarian? Also, do you have any recipes that do NOT focus on tofu that are pretty good?
10:45 AM bbevins__ is now known as R2E4_bevins_2
10:46 AM cradek: vegetarian, I don't really ever use recipes except for a cake or something like that
10:46 AM jym: cradek: You don't have a "go to" dish that you make often?
10:46 AM cradek: sounds like you're looking for all indian food
10:47 AM jym: No, indian has tofu dishes (paneer), just many vegn/vegitarians use tofu way too much
10:48 AM cradek: paneer is not tofu
10:48 AM cradek: I never saw tofu once while I was india for 2.5 weeks recently
10:48 AM jym: Ok, my bad for confusing one dish with another in a language I do not speak =)
10:49 AM jym: cradek: Well, maybe it was this one place that used it, *shrug*
10:49 AM cradek: still, try a variety of indian dishes. they cook mostly with vegetables and pulses and spices
10:50 AM enleth: paneer is a regular cow milk fresh cheese with a well defined texture, definitely a good meat replacement for indian stews
10:50 AM jym: cradek: I was asking what YOU have for go to dish/recipe
10:51 AM enleth: I'm not a vegetarian and usually I prefer my meals with meat, but paneer is actually one of the things I'll happily have in place of the meat
10:51 AM cradek: I'll often make cabbage and lentils with berbere
10:52 AM jym: cradek: I can't imagine that cabbage with lentils, I'd think it break down quickly
10:53 AM cradek: I like to have a cabbage around - they keep for months
10:53 AM jym: I do realize that the cabbage is added after the lentils have had to cook, but still
10:53 AM jym: I haven't been so lucky with cabbage lasting that long
10:53 AM jym: weeks, yes. Not months though, at least not without starting to go soft.
10:54 AM pcw_home: I like berbere in Ethiopian food, maybe should try at home
10:54 AM cradek: when I don't know what to make I buy the tired/clearance produce, whatever it is, and cook it up
10:54 AM jym: haha
10:55 AM jym: I tried Ethiopian food, found it rather bland, love indian food though
10:55 AM archivist: something for direct to /dev/null
10:55 AM jym: archivist: which?
10:55 AM archivist: all of it so far
10:55 AM jym: archivist: indian too?
10:56 AM enleth: jym: there are a couple variations of cabbage and lentils in east Polish and Ukrainian cuisine (usually with prunes and some kind of meat, but the latter is optional), usually made for Christmas Eve. No prolems with overcooking the cabbage ever noticed, it just works.
10:56 AM cradek: yeah you can't mess up cabbage
10:56 AM jym: enleth: ah cool, just never had it before
10:56 AM cradek: prunes/fruit with it sounds very interesting
10:56 AM jesseg_ is now known as jesseg
10:56 AM jym: I can see dried apricots adding a layer of depth
10:57 AM enleth: cradek: get some heavily smoked prunes, not just the regular dried ones
10:57 AM jym: maybe dried mango
10:57 AM jym: enleth: SMOKED prunes?! Never heard of them
10:57 AM cradek: argh, when the tool starts sounding wrong, stop and change it, even if you're 90% done
10:58 AM enleth: jym: look for a place that sells nuts and dried fruit, they should carry smoked prunes and smoked pears
10:59 AM jym: enleth: Interesting, I'll give it a shot if I come across them.
10:59 AM * archivist knibbles some cheeeeese to settle his guts
11:00 AM jym: Berbere, ok is this a subtle spice (like seasoning salt), or pretty savory like curry?
11:00 AM cradek: berbere has a kick, it's a combination of things
11:03 AM enleth: jym: 100% plum jam with some smoked prunes is also a thing, it's a regional variety of https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Powidl and might be available in a local Polish store if you have any in the area
11:04 AM enleth: you're more likely to get the mass produced stuff though, not that it's bad as long as it's 100% plum with no other ingredients, but not as good as with smoked prunes
11:13 AM Deejay: jym: :-)
11:18 AM cradek: pcw_home: my co-op carries http://www.teenytinyspice.com/certified-organic-kosher-ethiopian-berbere-spice/ and other products of theirs - it's really good
11:19 AM pcw_home: Thanks, I'll see if I can find it locally
11:19 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw, what version of Xilinix is being used to compile the 3x20 firmware?
11:23 AM pcw_home: any version later than about 12 should work
11:25 AM pcw_home: I use 13.1 at work on Windows and 14.7 at home on Linux
11:28 AM R2E4_bevins1: cradek: The fix you pushed for INTERP_EXECUTE_FINISH in Jan, was that removed for some reason?
11:31 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok, I tried using 14.7 on linux
11:33 AM lancaster-lanter: Can I use those same sources with no modification for compiling an image for the 3x20-2?
11:34 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw
11:35 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: 14.7 is telling me that those sources were done using an older version of xilinx
11:36 AM pcw_home: Thats fine, it should migrate them for you
11:37 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: It does exactly that, then the compilation fails, I'll try to get a little more detail
11:38 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: I do have plenty of linux experience in programming, but I'm a complete noob with Xilinx....
11:44 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok the parser stops at "use work.@Card@.all;" in the file "SOURCE/hostmot2/TopPCIHostMot2.vhd" saying "Syntax error near "@"."
11:46 AM pcw_home: It sounds like you started with the wrong project file, Top9054HostMot2.vhd shoud be the top level file for a 3X20 config
11:47 AM pcw_home: start with hm2_9054.xise
11:49 AM lancaster-lanter: ok, thanks
11:52 AM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok, got error "SOURCE/hostmot2/Top9054HostMot2.vhd" Line 78: Syntax error near "@"."
11:53 AM pcw_home: so now you edit Top9054HostMot2.vhd and select the proper card type and pinout file
11:58 AM lancaster-lanter: I've got a 6I68 card, do I select the line "--use work.x20_2000card.all; -- needs 7I68.ucf and SP3 2000K 456 pin."? There's no 6I68 line in that file.
12:06 PM pcw_home: Yes
12:07 PM pcw_home: and add 7i68.ucf to the project
12:23 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:33 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: One more error "SOURCE/hostmot2/hostmot2.vhd" Line 2948. Size of ibus is different than size of the target."
12:37 PM pcw_home: hmm probably a bad include with that project file, whats on hostmot2.vhd line 2948?
12:38 PM lancaster-lanter: ibus => ibus(15 downto 0),
12:49 PM pcw_home: try this as a project file:
12:49 PM pcw_home: http://freeby.mesanet.com.threex20.xise
12:50 PM pcw_home: sorry
12:50 PM pcw_home: http://freeby.mesanet.com/threex20.xise
12:53 PM lancaster-lanter: I should just toss that in the same folder as the other xise files and then add the 7I68.vhd file?
12:54 PM pcw_home: yeah
12:54 PM lancaster-lanter: ok
12:55 PM pcw_home: It already has 7i68.ucf added
12:58 PM lancaster-lanter: and then open that as a project?
01:10 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: I'm still getting the same error, I'm going to delete the entire source directory and start over.
01:26 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok, I restarted from a virgin 3x20 zip file, and added the downloaded threex20.xise file, plus selected the proper pinout in the file.
01:27 PM lancaster-lanter: I'm still getting the "Line 2948. Size of ibus is different than size of the target." error when I try to synthesize/compile/run the code
01:29 PM lancaster-lanter: The parser errors are gone, though
01:41 PM IchGucksLive: Gn8 from Germany
01:48 PM pcw_home: Did you use the hostmot2-zip file? the 3x20.zip file has a bunch of old .vhd files that should be discarded
01:55 PM DrippityDrops: pcw_home: I was using mesaflash yesterday and couldnt seem to get the board to "hold" the new ip I sent it. It says it was successful and asked me to power cycle the card. But then when I do, its still the same .121 ip. The line of code I used was. mesaflash --device 7i80 --set ip=
01:57 PM lancaster-lanter: That might be the problem
02:07 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok, just to make sure, this time I pulled the hostmot2 zip folder out, and made the aforementioned changes on the files. I then deleted the 3x20 folder completely to make sure it's not interfering. Still get the same "ibus size" error.
02:17 PM DrippityDrops: im an idiot, its set upn Fixed eeprom
02:17 PM DrippityDrops: all I probably need to do is move the jumpers
02:22 PM DrippityDrops: pcw_home: yesh ignore last shout, all I needed to do was move the W2 jumper on this card to switch from Default Fixed to the Fixed from Eeprom
02:28 PM enleth: any CO2 laser users around?
02:29 PM DrippityDrops: for hire, or sale?
02:29 PM enleth: for advice
02:29 PM DrippityDrops: ohh users*
02:29 PM DrippityDrops: hhahah
02:29 PM DrippityDrops: no me
02:29 PM DrippityDrops: Whats the problem?
02:32 PM Crom: enleth: what's up? I have 2 K40's
02:32 PM enleth: trying to figure out if a, say, 150W laser power supply will safely drive a tube with a significantly lower rating (say, 50-60W) by just limiting the current
02:33 PM enleth: this is not obvious as CO2 tubes exhibit a negative resistance curve and the strike voltage depends on tube length, which is usually correlated with power
02:33 PM Crom: Yes, by lowering current you're lowering voltage as well and using a 150w is ok for driving a 50+ watt tube. you might ant to go to a bigger ballast resistor
02:34 PM enleth: that resistor is internal to the supply, right?
02:35 PM Crom: yes and no... My supplies they are external., if your's in internal.. adding another won't hurt
02:35 PM Loetmichel: Meh. That quick drive wasnt as successful as planned. Wife ordered me to get some sacks of planting soil... Fact one: All local home improvement shops close at 20:00 on saturdays here, not 21:00 as my wife said. Fact two: That 2 ton station wagon CAN drift even on dry tarmac... If you are in a hurry enough... ;)
02:36 PM enleth: I was also worried about the current regulation loop being tuned for bigger tubes and going bonkers on an unexpected load
02:36 PM DrippityDrops: loetmichelandretti: dont forget your 5 point harness
02:36 PM Crom: Loetmichel: so true... I had a 1974 Chryslet Imperial Estate... 15" tires... that boat would drift beautifully!
02:36 PM enleth: Crom: but yours are the modern style switchmode supplies, right?
02:36 PM DrippityDrops: 74 imperial was a sharp car
02:36 PM Crom: yep
02:36 PM DrippityDrops: white>
02:36 PM DrippityDrops: ?
02:37 PM enleth: Crom: I just remembered reading somewhere that they supposedly don't need that resistor
02:37 PM enleth: I guess it still wouldn't hurt
02:37 PM Crom: powder blue with wood grain
02:37 PM Loetmichel: Crom: the Opel Omega is a RWD... and has a front engine... it drifts beatifully every winter. but usually not in the summer with dry roads ;)
02:37 PM Crom: well you do have to go fast enough!
02:38 PM Loetmichel: indeed
02:38 PM Loetmichel: and usually not inside city limits ;)
02:38 PM Crom: Omega.. hmm I'll have to check to see which body style that is... I don't we get it here
02:39 PM Loetmichel: Crom: caddilac catera as a station wagon
02:39 PM Crom: that imperial estate.. 6800# 1/2 of gas....
02:40 PM Crom: k... nice Station Wagon is too american... I have always prefered the proper Estate
02:40 PM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11969&g2_imageViewsIndex=1
02:40 PM Loetmichel: http://www.cyrom.org/palbum/main.php?g2_itemId=11975
02:41 PM Loetmichel: you get the picture ;)
02:41 PM DrippityDrops: https://s-media-cache-ak0.pinimg.com/originals/e9/6d/ec/e96dec4ff30648cc176d33ebc74656a4.jpg
02:41 PM Crom: right now I'm running a '95 Honda 1st Gen Odyssey
02:41 PM Loetmichel: DrippityDrops: looks nice. what is it?
02:41 PM DrippityDrops: dodge magnum
02:42 PM Loetmichel: i assume its a big block or something in that ballpark?
02:42 PM DrippityDrops: yah
02:42 PM Loetmichel: i dont think ou would find many buyers for that here in germany, even if it was aviable
02:43 PM pcw_home: lancaster-lanter: try replacing you vhd files with this snapshot
02:43 PM pcw_home: http://freeby.mesanet.com/hostmot2vhd.zip
02:43 PM sync_: it is
02:43 PM sync_: chrysler 300c
02:43 PM Loetmichel: the Omega is pretty much the biggest car that isnt a truck or a SUV here
02:43 PM sync_: but basically it is a w210
02:44 PM Loetmichel: s/car/ station wagon
02:46 PM Crom: when the heck did Audi buy Lambhorgini?
02:46 PM sync_: ages ago
02:46 PM sync_: they also own bentley and rolls
02:46 PM Crom: I though VW got rolls
02:47 PM Crom: thought
02:47 PM Loetmichel: and BMW owns rover IIRC
02:47 PM sync_: Crom: it is all VAG
02:47 PM sync_: so pfft
02:48 PM Crom: they're MB, VW audi, Bentley, Rolls. Lambhorgini, ?????
02:49 PM sync_: mb? nah
02:51 PM sync_: VAG is audi vw porsche man bentley lamborghini ducati seat skoda bugatti
02:51 PM sync_: and a few smaller things
02:51 PM sync_: ah, and scania
02:53 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok
02:54 PM Crom: ok Found a 25' Midi cable 4c shielded
03:20 PM lancaster-lanter: pcw_home: ok, that's an improvement, now the synthesis stage completes. The next stage (translate) fails, with the following errors: ConstraintSystem:59 - Constraint <NET "LEDS<1>" LOC = "p141" |> [5i21.ucf(114)]: NET "LEDS<1>" not found. Please verify that:
03:20 PM lancaster-lanter: 1. The specified design element actually exists in the original design.
03:20 PM lancaster-lanter: 2. The specified object is spelled correctly in the constraint source file.
04:17 PM pcw_home: wrong ucf file
04:19 PM pcw_home: (you need 7i68.ucf)
04:31 PM Crom: great.. fried my speed control board last night...
04:35 PM Crom: maybe not... looks to be pwm is too fast for the speed control
04:44 PM Deejay: gn8
04:59 PM {HD}: Crom: On your new equipment?
05:00 PM Crom: old speed control, new code
05:58 PM Crom: uploading video of iHSS57-36-20 steppers running at around 120mm/s
06:47 PM Crom: gonna try to get the cnc3040 to use linuxcnc to control the speed of the spindle..
07:05 PM {HD}: Where is the video!
08:13 PM Crom: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hzLmrGhpwTs&t=3s
08:13 PM Crom: second half has rapids
08:17 PM Crom: 6:35
08:30 PM Goslowjimbo: I am trying to download a new version of the linuxcnc to my laptop. I have a Bridgeport BTC-1 which I had running in 2009 with EMC2. Now I'm trying to get it running again. I can't seem to get a running copy. If I use unetbootin, for some reason the computer doesn't recognize the USB stick. If I use DD, it fails in a continuous loop before any graphics come up. I would appreciate some help on this.
08:34 PM jdh: unrelated to the issue of getting it running. linuxcnc in general does not run well from laptops
08:37 PM Goslowjimbo: I was pretty much aware if that. SInce the BP is in my barn, about 3 miles from any internet, I just wanted to make sure I had a good copy to take with me to the barn and load it on the computer out there. Is this not practical?
08:38 PM jdh: no dvd burner/drive?
08:39 PM Goslowjimbo: I do have a burner drive on all of my computers, but I thought the USB sticks performed the same, and don't care about scratches.
08:40 PM jdh: did you md5sum the iso to make sure the d/l was good?
08:40 PM jdh: no errors on the dd?
08:41 PM Goslowjimbo: I used zsync to download, and it said no errors. the dd didn't appear to have errors.
08:42 PM Goslowjimbo: I've used 4 different d/ls.
08:42 PM Goslowjimbo: 2 of 2.7, 2 of 2.6
08:43 PM jdh: so, no help from me... last time I d/l to windows and used win32diskimager. it's been a few years since I did a fresh install.
08:43 PM jdh: dd should just work though
08:46 PM Goslowjimbo: I downloaded to windows 10 (I believe a 64 bit), and a Ubuntu 16.04, 64 bit
08:54 PM jdh: did you try a different usb stick?
08:56 PM Goslowjimbo: I haven't. THis a relatively new stick, but I have around 20 all told. I'll see If I have one I could either backup and erase or just destroy what's on it.
09:01 PM Crom: Goslowjimbo: I had the same problem... fixed it by openeing the case and hooking up a DVD drive.... once it was installed and running took the dvd drive off and closed it up
09:02 PM Crom: spindle-velocity-feedback-rps reports a number that changes with rpms... and if I put a load on the spindle it reports the spindle slowing down.
09:02 PM Crom: spindle-velocity reports 0
09:03 PM jdh: using modbus over 485?
09:05 PM Goslowjimbo: I don't understand why the USB stick can't do the same thing. I do have some DVDs somewhere. I cna try that too.
09:07 PM Crom: hal... loadrt near change the net a bit...
09:09 PM {HD}: Can a fork lift lift itself?
09:11 PM toner: yes
09:11 PM toner: well, some can
09:14 PM Goslowjimbo: JDH and Crom: thanks for the help. I'll sign of and try both now.
09:16 PM Crom: in hal I have net spindle-velocity-feedback-rps => near.0.in2, is there a way to scale what it reports? s100 returns 35 s1000 return 135 s2000 returns 155
09:16 PM Crom: I don't have my tach here...
09:19 PM toner: hmm I suppose I was thinking about an excavator like this one: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBMUvAUPTGM&t=3m00s
09:23 PM {HD}: My z axis is configured backwards =(
09:28 PM Crom: {HD}: swap 2 wires on your stepper A1 A2 to A2 A1
09:28 PM Crom: IE reverse 1 coil
09:29 PM {HD}: Its a config file thing
09:29 PM Crom: everything I'm finding for hal says I need index... I only have one input from spindle...
09:35 PM jdh: you could change the config, or swap a pair of wires.
09:36 PM jdh: or do you mean - is down and + is up?
09:45 PM {HD}: jdh I have to invert because of my bob but then I have to home latch on z opposite...But, I am back upstairs and don't want to walk all the way back out to the shop.
09:50 PM Crom: {HD}: x step is on which pin?
09:50 PM Crom: {HD}: x dir is on which pin?
09:52 PM {HD}: When I hit home all or home Z it goes the wrong direction.
09:53 PM {HD}: I thought changing home latch direction would fix it. But it did not.
09:53 PM Crom: setp parport.0.pin-03-out-invert 1
09:54 PM Crom: {HD}: that changes directiopn of stepper...
09:54 PM Crom: change you home search velocity to a negative number.. my X is -16
09:55 PM enleth: Crom: OK, I sure hope you know what you're talking about regarding those CO2 power supplies, I'm buying a 150W unit for use with a 60W tube until it pays for itself and a bigger tube
09:55 PM XXCoder: doomday laser!
09:55 PM {HD}: Crom: my stepper is not going in the wrong direction under normal operation. It is going in the wrong direction when homing.
09:55 PM Crom: change you home search velocity to a negative number.. my X is -16
09:56 PM Crom: enleth: when you first fire it start at power 0 until it lases
09:57 PM Crom: inch your way up.
09:58 PM Crom: My Y is on the back of the machine so it's a positive number but X and Z are negative
10:00 PM enleth: Crom: I've got a current meter installed in that plotter, so as long as the supply deals with the different characteristics of a smaller tube properly, I should be able to figure out the maximum safe setting
10:01 PM Crom: got spindle-velocity reporting a number... doesn't look like an RPM
10:06 PM {HD}: If my table travel is 0-25 why can I goto -.01?
10:21 PM {HD}: Is it because "The home location must be inside the Table Travel and not equal to one fo the Table Travel values."? Because I have my home location set to 0
10:21 PM {HD}: ...
10:21 PM {HD}: Ill try that.
10:24 PM Crom: I have table -10, home switch -5, home pos 0
10:29 PM codepython7771: does anyone know how to write/print on glass?
10:31 PM {HD}: I think I have my table dialed in. Now I just need to figure out how to control the VFD via 485
10:32 PM {HD}: codepython7771: I have watched youtube videos that seem to explain it pretty well but, I have never done it.
10:32 PM R2E4_bevins: codepython7771, diamond tip drag bit
10:34 PM R2E4_bevins: HD: which VFD?
10:34 PM {HD}: huanyang
10:34 PM R2E4_bevins: you have mesa boards?
10:35 PM {HD}: Nope
10:35 PM {HD}: I have a 232 - 485 adapter
10:35 PM codepython7771: R2E4_bevins: Cool. Can I do it using a 3d printer? :)
10:36 PM R2E4_bevins: IF you can mount the drag bit on it sure why not, just dont shoot plastic on it....lol
10:37 PM R2E4_bevins: WTF is the digital I/O in hal conf?
10:38 PM codepython7771: R2E4_bevins: http://www.ebay.com/itm/CNC-DRAG-ENGRAVING-TOOL-BIT-SPRING-LOADED-DIAMOND-SHERLINE-TAIG-MILL-TORMACH-BF2-/192104140363 - do you have a pointer for what i could use?
10:39 PM R2E4_bevins: that works
10:41 PM R2E4_bevins: https://www.widgetworksunlimited.com/CNC_Diamond_Drag_Engraving_Bit_p/cnc-dmnd_engrv-250.htm
10:41 PM R2E4_bevins: I use those, more expensive but you can change the tips
11:18 PM XXCoder: "a painting within a painting being painted by the painter painting the painting who is also painting himself
11:19 PM XXCoder: https://i.imgur.com/xks0RFq.jpg
11:22 PM Crom: found this page... works like carp.. it's ki9nda working... http://wiki.linuxcnc.org/cgi-bin/wiki.pl?Closed_Loop_Spindle_Speed_Control
11:34 PM XXCoder: nice
11:34 PM XXCoder: saibg link for later
11:39 PM Crom: hmm motion.spindle-speed-in is not reading the RPM