#linuxcnc Logs
Mar 30 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
01:43 AM archivist: os1r1s Cromaglious_ , see https://github.com/FernV/NativeCAM
01:46 AM Cromaglious_: looking
02:06 AM IchGucksLive: morning from germany
02:06 AM IchGucksLive: so a internal dull cam system is under developing
02:08 AM IchGucksLive: full ;-)
02:08 AM IchGucksLive: till later
02:15 AM Cromaglious_: nice! I'm gonna be playing with that, soon!
02:16 AM Cromaglious_: it errored on install missing default/lathe dir... I just duplicated mill
02:24 AM Cromaglious_: hmmm o<select> is crashing it when I load the ncam.ngc
02:29 AM Deejay: moin
02:40 AM DavenportGuy: mojn!
02:46 AM Wolfmetalfab is now known as Wolf_
03:28 AM MacGalempsy: yo
05:02 AM jthornton: morning
05:21 AM Tom_L: morning
05:22 AM XXCoder: heys
05:22 AM Tom_L: looks like you're geting our weather now
05:22 AM XXCoder: me?
05:22 AM Tom_L: no
05:23 AM Tom_L: or maybe it just passed you by
05:46 AM jthornton: we didn't get as much as they said last night
06:00 AM jym: we got more than they didn't say =(
06:01 AM jym: Currently: cloudy. -- cloudy my ass, it's raining!
06:01 AM XXCoder: All hope abandon ye who enter here.
06:06 AM jym: Lasciate ogne speranza, voi ch'intrate
07:19 AM gonzo_: rain is just very high concentration cloud
07:20 AM _methods: or maybe just a low cloud
07:35 AM jym: Yeah, well, fuck rain, fuck clouds, m'kay
07:35 AM XXCoder: fuck rain fuck food, fuck water, fuck living
07:35 AM jthornton: hmmm
07:36 AM jym: XXCoder: and guck bitter ass damp cold too!
07:36 AM XXCoder: no worries, you wont be cold when you are dead
07:37 AM jym: Eh, zombies have their bones more exposed, so maybe, my luck, probably.
07:38 AM jym: I tried to refinish something. IT's so frickin damp and cold that even waiting a week to dry it was still tacky!
07:42 AM jym: Sorry folks, just so sick and tired of rain/cold, I can't even enjoy the sound of rain/thunder anymore.
07:42 AM XXCoder: this area is finally exiting mid-spring
07:43 AM XXCoder: its now post-forever rain
07:43 AM jym: I have 8" deep gutters and they STILL overflow!
07:44 AM jym: It's the worse rain they say they've had here in over 30+ years.
07:45 AM XXCoder: nah its totally not climate change
07:46 AM jym: I'm going to try to incorporate somethng like this into the gutter downspout and silicone the crap out of it https://images0.plumbersstock.com/product/750/750/448.jpg
07:46 AM jym: I figure that should be even clearance that even a pinecone couldn't get stuck
07:47 AM jym: whoever thought that a tiny like 2" hole from a gutter to downspout was a good idea should be bitchslapped!
07:47 AM jym: s/like/little/
07:48 AM XXCoder: deep throat
07:50 AM jym: Really?! two almost 90's?! many get one lil twig in there followed by a couple of leaves and you got a clogged gutter http://www.qualityguttersystems.com/wp-content/uploads/2014/02/downspout1.jpg
07:51 AM XXCoder: I wonder if your design would be 3d printable or millable
07:51 AM XXCoder: make interior tefton. no stick for joo
07:51 AM jym: XXCoder: Table sawable
07:54 AM jym: Make a slit in the top with the tablesaw; heat bend the side straight; heat taper bend the other side to follow the counter of the outside of the gutter as best as a possible; cut the gutter so you have at least 4"x4" to accomidate the pipe fitting; silicone all the gaps (maybe some PU foam in a can or something else that will expand but is waterproof)
07:55 AM jym: Ok, this is the 2" hole I was talking about... https://i.stack.imgur.com/JfbU9.jpg
07:55 AM jym: Then your down spout fits over that 2" hole... http://www.holemanlandscape.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/Oversized-Downspouts2.jpg
07:56 AM jym: If I do the 4" abs/pvc, then I should never even have to clean gutters as everythng would be able to get thru the downspout (in theory)
07:59 AM jym: XXCoder: Hmmm, it sorta looks like someone had the same idea (sorta) https://www.amazon.com/Plastic-Trends-P1923-Downspout-Adapter/dp/B000UFTAF6
07:59 AM SpeedEvil: jym: till it jams in the drains. :)
08:00 AM jym: SpeedEvil: you've tried it or murphy's law?
08:00 AM XXCoder: it'd be better idea to filter out biggert crap?
08:00 AM SpeedEvil: There are also gutter caterpillar things
08:00 AM jym: XXCoder: fuck no, I've already made filters, still clogs up
08:01 AM XXCoder: well there is that blinds-like thing
08:01 AM XXCoder: just flungs water outward
08:01 AM jym: XXCoder: pine needles get trapped oin them
08:01 AM jym: pine needles*
08:01 AM XXCoder: chop pines down ;)
08:01 AM SpeedEvil: http://www.coopersofstortford.co.uk/src/gbase/coopers-of-stortford-gutter-protector-prodst09588i/?LGWCODE=9588;103993;5253&gclid=CK2T_oie_tICFUi3GwodxSkK1g
08:02 AM jym: The issue isn't the gutters, the issue is getting everything OUT of the gutters. And when the point of exit is only" you have a massive bottleneck
08:03 AM jym: SpeedEvil: I have 8" deep gutters, even without debry they overflow. Need bigger downspout.
08:04 AM SpeedEvil: A macerator in the downspout would be interesting
08:04 AM jym: SpeedEvil: metal snow roof
08:04 AM SpeedEvil: Ah
08:05 AM jym: ALL gutters (not just mine) transition to a 2" hole, then a 2x3" downspout. It's just a big bottleneck
08:05 AM jym: This looks promising, I down really need SCH40, SCH20 should be fine... https://thumb1.shutterstock.com/display_pic_with_logo/2154935/556909444/stock-photo-installing-rain-gutter-downspout-pipe-contractor-hands-repair-rain-gutter-downspout-pipe-556909444.jpg
08:05 AM jym: don't*
08:08 AM jym: Hmmm https://www.amazon.com/inch-Round-Aluminum-Downspout-Diverter/dp/B00D54FFK8
08:10 AM jym: XXCoder: Here we go... http://www.aquabarrel.com/product_downspout_adapter_metal_detail_images.php
08:17 AM jym: XXCoder: DAMN.... $50 https://www.reinders.com/products/299-664/
08:19 AM jym: XXCoder: Promising http://www.homedepot.com/p/Advanced-Drainage-Systems-6-in-x-4-in-x-6-in-Polyethylene-Downspout-Adapter-0664AA/203299350
08:20 AM SpeedEvil: Fibreglass is fun
08:21 AM jym: SpeedEvil: You mean breathing it? the splinters of glass all in the pores of your skin? or the razor sharp edges/points once the resin has hardened?
08:22 AM SpeedEvil: :)
08:23 AM jym: Exactly
08:24 AM skunkworks: http://www.cnczone.com/forums/rf-45-clone-mill/326994-cnc-cad-engineering-10.html#post2024474
08:26 AM SpeedEvil: More seriously - cloth, not random fibre is fairly friendly and simple to work with IME.
08:27 AM jym: skunkworks: I was talking cloth ;)
08:28 AM jym: But not as many floating fibers
08:28 AM jym: err SpeedEvil ^^^
08:29 AM SpeedEvil: Or you could just go kevlar :)
08:29 AM jym: SpeedEvil: Do the floating fibers stop bullets mid-air ?
08:30 AM SpeedEvil: kevlar doesn't tend to fray as easily and produce loose fibres
08:31 AM jym: ah. The only kevlar I've used is in long fiber strands (strain relief in fiber optic cables)
08:31 AM jym: ...to prevent stretching
08:31 AM jym: But would love to get my hands on some kevlar rope
08:35 AM jym: flex tap saddles https://www.fernco.com/plumbing/flexible-couplings/flexible-tap-saddles
08:37 AM jym: Ok, tell me if I'm full of shit, but if I cut off the endcap of a gutter and connected up a 4 or 6" elbow, shouldn't that allow water and debree to flow with minimal restriction?
08:39 AM jym: something like this https://mobileimages.lowes.com/product/converted/611942/611942033577.jpg
08:54 AM cradek: jym: I've really improved mine by shortening or taking out all the screws that catch stuff
08:55 AM cradek: the installers put screws up through the bottoms of the elbows, since the bottom was easier to reach than the top
08:55 AM cradek: but with that screw there, three leaves and seven pine needles could plug the whole thing
08:55 AM cradek: I would not glue elbows or do anything else that can't easily be taken apart for cleaning
09:12 AM Todd_Z: Your elbow on the end will likely work better, but twigs too long to go around the bend will still clog it up.
09:13 AM Todd_Z: Better to put on gutter caps to keep the crap out of the gutter in the first place.
09:14 AM Todd_Z: Better gutters have larger drain holes and bigger down pipes (mine are 4"x6")
09:18 AM Todd_Z: And the gutters have a flat metal cover with perforated holes.
09:31 AM * archivist giggles at the though of metal gutters with screws, here they are plastic and designed for even faster clip together fitting
09:31 AM roycroft: pop rivets are commonly used here
09:31 AM roycroft: screws are right out
09:43 AM cradek: I take the screws out to clean the upper elbows from below
09:43 AM IchGucksLive: hi
09:43 AM cradek: plastic and clips sounds horrible, like the inside of a modern car :-P
09:44 AM IchGucksLive: cradek: is the natic cam system included now in the master-rt
09:45 AM IchGucksLive: as it says in readme https://github.com/FernV/NativeCAM
09:45 AM archivist: cradek, it means no leaf catch points
09:46 AM IchGucksLive: NativeCAM is now a deb package supplied with LinuxCNC
09:46 AM IchGucksLive: i dont find the package
09:47 AM IchGucksLive: i updated the lcnc but its not there maybe the wrong source to get
09:47 AM cradek: it's possible someone has packaged it! that's great if so. I don't know where to get it, though.
09:48 AM IchGucksLive: the buildbot source is only carriing tthe main 2.8.0
09:48 AM IchGucksLive: is there a wheezy 2.8. base
09:49 AM IchGucksLive: as it is inside 2.8.1
09:50 AM IchGucksLive: in the Wiki i also miss the verion on the server sources
09:50 AM IchGucksLive: there shoudt be a list to grap
09:50 AM cradek: I don't understand what you're asking
09:51 AM cradek: the branches buildbot builds are listed on the front page of http://buildbot.linuxcnc.org/
09:51 AM IchGucksLive: ok i will look
09:51 AM IchGucksLive: this is buildbot
09:51 AM IchGucksLive: there is also a main
09:55 AM IchGucksLive: deb http://linuxcnc.org wheezy base 2.7-rtai
09:56 AM IchGucksLive: is there a
09:56 AM IchGucksLive: deb http://linuxcnc.org wheezy base 2.8-rtai
09:56 AM cradek: no, because 2.8 has not been released
09:56 AM IchGucksLive: ok
09:57 AM IchGucksLive: so it is not inside the packiges as it says
09:58 AM IchGucksLive: then it runs only on kuzminskies version
09:58 AM IchGucksLive: hi JesusAlos
09:59 AM IchGucksLive: JesusAlos: did you get the thing about G51
10:31 AM JesusAlos: Hi
10:31 AM newcnc22: Hi
11:28 AM deawe: Is anybody familiar with setting up a 7I76E or other similar Mesa ethernet card? From the hm2_eth manpage I understand that the firmware have to be loaded by mesaflash, but where do I find the firmware for this?
11:29 AM Tom_L: PCW is probably somewhat familiar with it
11:30 AM deawe: heh, yeah, I would guess so :)
11:38 AM JT-Shop: the 7i76e should be ready to run out of the box, you need the rt preempt kernel and linuxcnc uspace
11:40 AM deawe: ok, thanks. I just read more or less the same in a forum post. I actually may already have the card working, but I'm not quite sure how to check how
11:40 AM archivist: scope the outputs?
11:40 AM Tom_L: JT-Shop, what's new?
11:40 AM Tom_L: been gone a while..
11:40 AM deawe: linuxcnc fires up alright and based on the ethernet activity, it appears to be communicating with 7i76e
11:41 AM JT-Shop: http://www.mesaus.com/info/7i76e.txt
11:41 AM deawe: but for instance the on-card LED:s doesn't seem to care about the true/false state of the pins (for that LED:s, that is)
11:41 AM JT-Shop: http://www.mesaus.com/info/mesa-pins.txt
11:42 AM JT-Shop: Tom_L: work, work, work and a drone or two lol
11:43 AM Tom_L: all work and no play...
11:43 AM deawe: JT-Shop: thanks for the links, first one is done, and also the pins show up
11:43 AM archivist: I spotted him escape for a few days
11:44 AM deawe: the init-led is lit though..
11:45 AM * JT-Shop looked toward the shop door and saw some strange bright stuff... could that be the sun?
11:45 AM JT-Shop: deawe: run halshow after starting linuxcnc and check your pins
11:49 AM deawe: JT-Shop: halshow registers the change when I change the LED:s to 0/1, but the physical LED:s on the card does not change state
11:49 AM deawe: but perhaps I should concentrate on something different than the LED:s ?
11:50 AM JT-Shop: aye, get it running
11:52 AM deawe: yeah, the LED:s just seemed like a simple test of functionality ;) divide and conquer strategy...
11:53 AM JT-Shop: do you see the hal pins for the leds?
11:55 AM deawe: yes, CR01 through CR04 shows up
11:56 AM archivist: kiddies this came up in another place https://sandiego.craigslist.org/esd/tls/6065318919.html
11:57 AM deawe: and doing a 'setp hm2_7i76e.0.led.CR01 true' changes the pin-state to true. No change of the physical led, though
12:03 PM Simonious: It's rare to get any live people in #solidworks :/
12:03 PM Tom_L: several SW users here
12:03 PM Tom_L: not as good at SW as i am Catia but they are quite similar
12:04 PM Simonious: I've got a sketch on a face and I want to extrude cut it to the next face, but I'm only seeing blind, through all, or through all both as options. I really want a to next or to selected face
12:04 PM Simonious: the options giving are going all the way through the part
12:04 PM Simonious: I'e seen 'up to next' in the past, but that option isn't given here, I think that would work.
12:04 PM Tom_L: no 'up to next' option?
12:05 PM Tom_L: hmm
12:05 PM Simonious: I suspect it is because the sketch overlaps two regions, one region continues past the face I want to cut up to.
12:05 PM archivist: just go far enough
12:05 PM Tom_L: i'd look for it... i know Catia has that, i assume SW still would
12:05 PM JT-Shop: probably have an open sketch and that option is not allowed in that case
12:05 PM Simonious: archivist: that is how I did it the first time, I ended up off a tiny faction of a mm that dicked me later in the drawing
12:06 PM Simonious: JT-Shop: the sketch is closed no (-)
12:06 PM Simonious: I know I can come up with some kind of a hammer kludge that'll get me there, but I'm trying to learn a better way as I go.
12:07 PM archivist: but to a face at an angle often then you have to go far enough or some form of loft/follow a path
12:07 PM Tom_L: some are smart enough to figure out the face anyway
12:07 PM archivist: but depends on version etc
12:08 PM Simonious: archivist: that makes sense, but part of this cut still in material and that material needs to stay flush with the face I want to cut to.
12:11 PM Simonious: alright well next question.. how do I copy a sketch from one face to another face on the opposite side of the part so I can do the same cut there?
12:12 PM archivist: er extrude the cut from the first
12:12 PM archivist: not sure exactly what you are trying to do
12:13 PM ASRock_pc: https://forum.solidworks.com/thread/76694
12:14 PM Tom_L: see what that does
12:15 PM ASRock_pc is now known as Tom_work
12:17 PM * Simonious sighs
12:17 PM Simonious: even when SolidWorks knows what I want to do it still throws up some excuse about why it won't do it.
12:17 PM Tom_work: https://grabcad.com/questions/can-i-copy-one-sketch-to-another-plane-in-sw
12:18 PM Tom_L: another answer
12:18 PM Simonious: I really like what it is capable of, but I hate using it.
12:18 PM archivist: is the other plane on another part
12:18 PM Simonious: no
12:18 PM Tom_L: all software has learning curves
12:18 PM archivist: I like using sw
12:18 PM Simonious: Tom_L: True, but Solidworks seems willfully dumb
12:18 PM archivist: nah
12:19 PM Tom_work: i like catia better but still use sw sometimes
12:19 PM Tom_work: just more used to it atm i think
12:20 PM archivist: the latest version I have seems harder to use than the earlier
12:20 PM Tom_work: i like some of the new features lacking in older versions
12:21 PM * _methods still hasn't gotten around to installing 2017
12:21 PM gregcnc: probably a simple solution if it was open on your own screen
12:22 PM Tom_work: need my screen space back..
12:22 PM Simonious: For example, It's got a handy feature lookup.. I use that to loop up mirror. I then select a feature and a plane, it mirrors it, I click the check and it won't do it: http://oi68.tinypic.com/2pz9x6w.jpg
12:22 PM Simonious: It's like it doesn't trust me
12:22 PM Tom_L: i don't either
12:22 PM Tom_L: :D
12:22 PM Simonious: I still would have liked to be able to do that cut to the next face instead of having to cut it blind
12:23 PM Tom_L: catia will let you do that easy with one sketch
12:23 PM Tom_L: i forget how exactly because i don't use that feature much
12:23 PM _methods: so will solidworks
12:23 PM archivist: read error message comply, retry
12:23 PM _methods: you're obviously doing it wrong
12:23 PM Tom_L: offset an extrude or such
12:23 PM Simonious: right that's the killer, I know there is a clean, smart elegant way to do these things. I can hammer them out, but that's nasty.
12:24 PM Tom_L: put your sketch in the middle and offset extrude each way
12:24 PM Simonious: archivist: I can't go shallower that wouldn't go through to the next face
12:24 PM Simonious: Tom_L: that sounds like a good idea. I have to run will check on that idea later
12:25 PM Tom_L: iirc that's how i did it in catia
12:25 PM archivist: sometimes you have to come at it from a different plane that makes more sense
12:26 PM gregcnc: many ways to deal with this, but not knowing the design intent hard to say what will or won't work in your favor
12:27 PM gregcnc: you just have try things., that's how the people who know the answers gothtere
12:27 PM Tom_L: it came to me once he posted a pic
12:27 PM archivist: anyway internal square corners on a milled part, error :)
12:27 PM roycroft: just use a square drill bit
12:28 PM archivist: I had fun with one model sent in to make
12:28 PM roycroft: there are very simple ones
12:28 PM roycroft: they are called "broaches" :)
12:28 PM archivist: did you mean that? wtf
12:28 PM gregcnc: why use an open profile?
12:28 PM roycroft: the ones that rotate are fairly complex though
12:29 PM archivist: roycroft, up to a face no place for chips to go
12:29 PM ASRock_pc: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rjckF0-VeGI
12:29 PM gregcnc: if you have a lot of money sure, otherwise design for manufacturing not dreams
12:30 PM archivist: very easy to design unmanufacturable solids
12:30 PM Tom_L: true that
12:30 PM Tom_L: print them
12:31 PM Tom_L: more options are becoming available at a cost
12:31 PM IchGucksLive: hi
12:31 PM archivist: I find you have to nag the customer to fix the design intent
12:33 PM IchGucksLive: JesusAlos: Still on
12:33 PM JesusAlos: Hi
12:33 PM IchGucksLive: did you see the G51 workaroud
12:34 PM JesusAlos: IchGucksLive: I don't know how implement in linuxnc
12:34 PM IchGucksLive: 3 lines in Mcode M151
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: #!/bin/bash
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: scalefactor=$1
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: /home/sammel/linuxcnc/grecode/grecode -scale $scalefactor /home/sammel/linuxcnc/nc_files/N7000.ngc -o /home/sammel/linuxcnc/nc_files/N7000_scaled.ngc
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: axis-remote /home/sammel/linuxcnc/nc_files/N7000_scaled.ngc
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: axis-remote --reload &
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: exit 0
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: USIGE M151 P1.5 for factor 1.5
12:35 PM IchGucksLive: thats all
12:36 PM JesusAlos: But I must run the command for each scale factor?
12:37 PM IchGucksLive: th original is not touched
12:37 PM IchGucksLive: The Q you gave says to me its not what you wanr
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: why woudt you scale mltiple
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: for CRC use CRC
12:38 PM IchGucksLive: as then your part goes bigger or smaler
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: inlay and pocket
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: as you are that way
12:39 PM IchGucksLive: scale is only for real part dimantion
12:43 PM JesusAlos: I will need more time, it bit tricky to me :(
12:44 PM JesusAlos: I'll study more
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: you are welcome
12:44 PM JesusAlos: thank
12:44 PM JesusAlos: yes
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/hs.jpg
12:44 PM IchGucksLive: nice wood work
12:45 PM IchGucksLive: http://heimwerkermarkt-tretter.de/hs_2.jpg Colored wood text
12:55 PM jym: cradek: One of the main issues here is that I have 8" deep by 20+ long gutters, but where the downspout connects is a 2" transition. Having a metal snow roof, water runs down very rapidly and then overflows the gutter. Really need to open up that 2" bottleneck. Already have plastic chain on one replacing the downspout, it helps, but not enough
01:14 PM IchGucksLive: jym: call the nearby firerstation if it gets to the overflow
01:15 PM jym: IchGucksLive: What, so they can come pump it out? Make it stop raining? Laugh their asses off?
01:16 PM IchGucksLive: i think they gone eat donats first
01:16 PM jym: IchGucksLive: That's cops, not firefighters
01:17 PM IchGucksLive: oh what do they consum
01:17 PM jym: IchGucksLive: They cook their own meals at the firehouse.
01:17 PM IchGucksLive: Steaks ?
01:18 PM CaptHindsight: IchGucksLive: http://eatlikeafirefighter.com/
01:19 PM IchGucksLive: CaptHindsight: then i will go eating bevor sliping
01:21 PM CaptHindsight: other popular titles: Cook Like a Racist, Exotic Foods for Xenophobes, Which of my Two Moms Make Me Pancakes?
02:03 PM IchGucksLive: Servus GEFU
02:04 PM GEFU: Hallo , ich bin der Gerhard
02:05 PM IchGucksLive: bitte drück doppelt auf meinen user namen
02:05 PM Deejay: drück feste zu
02:05 PM Deejay: er mag das
02:25 PM IchGucksLive: Deejay: und wieder einer Mehr
02:25 PM Deejay: :)
02:26 PM IchGucksLive: Mal seh ob wir win nicht klein bekommen
03:10 PM R2E4_bevins1: hi all
03:39 PM XXCoder: heys
03:46 PM R2E4_bevins: hiya xxcoder
03:46 PM XXCoder: yo
03:47 PM R2E4_bevins: you wouldnt happen to know anythign about remapping
03:47 PM R2E4_bevins: ?
03:47 PM XXCoder: on cnc? nah
03:49 PM JT-Shop: I know it is confusing to me...
03:50 PM R2E4_bevins: Cant seem to get the modes right.... code runs in preview mode, then when I try running in auto it says cant do that in auto....lol
03:50 PM JT-Shop: run it from a terminal so you might get more info
03:50 PM R2E4_bevins: Hi JT, Tracey told me he ordered his cards....
03:51 PM JT-Shop: yea, they are on the way to him
03:51 PM R2E4_bevins: I am running it from terminal. Thats how I am doing my traces...... EMC_task cant send DOUT
03:51 PM JT-Shop: I had to make a bunch of 3.7 standoffs real quick for him
03:51 PM R2E4_bevins: lol, yeah I told him to use them, that they wrok great....
03:52 PM R2E4_bevins: I cant find out how to do it in any docs......
03:52 PM R2E4_bevins: the modes for remap
03:53 PM R2E4_bevins: I set the mode to manual query it and it returns manual ande auto...lol
03:53 PM R2E4_bevins: I dont understand
03:54 PM R2E4_bevins: can't do that (EMC_MOTION_SET_DOUT) in auto mode with the interpreter idle
03:55 PM JT-Shop: I've never did any remap and only looked at it briefly for a moment
03:56 PM JT-Shop: you trying to turn on a digital output?
03:56 PM cradek: what are you trying to do? why are you trying to switch modes?
03:57 PM R2E4_bevins: remapping M6....
03:58 PM R2E4_bevins: When I use program run it doesnt work, cuase I am not setting mode I guess. I get that error
03:58 PM R2E4_bevins: If I let the remap run when loading a file it runs ok in preview mode
03:59 PM R2E4_bevins: self.task=0 it will run
03:59 PM R2E4_bevins: When its 1 it wont
03:59 PM R2E4_bevins: Something I am not setting correct in my remap
04:00 PM R2E4_bevins: remap is pure python
04:11 PM Deejay: gn8
04:15 PM jym: I need to back a ghetto (much lighter) version of soil cement for errosion control https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3M-GVdz1xo
04:15 PM jym: make*
04:17 PM jym: Something more like this on a smaller scale... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rblIwW1X5ek
04:19 PM andypugh: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fGr0oifJMEI
04:28 PM jym: andypugh: haha, awesome!!!
04:29 PM XXCoder: taste the air
04:31 PM XXCoder: is that new top gear host?
04:41 PM jym: I'm impressed, looks like he built it himself
05:12 PM JT-Shop: all my fucking steel just fell over onto the wall!
05:13 PM malcom2073: Whups! No injury I hope?
05:17 PM SpeedEvil: :(
05:17 PM SpeedEvil: Is this a 'Oh no I need to pick all of this up and sort it' or 'now I have no wall' type event?
05:18 PM malcom2073: I imagine by the "fucking" modifier on the steel, that it's the latter heh
05:18 PM archivist: when I had a stack fail near me it was a trip to hospital to get plastered
05:19 PM malcom2073: Buddy of mine had his mill fall over in front of him the other week, quite a sobering experience
05:19 PM archivist: stack of RSJs moved trapped my leg,
05:20 PM malcom2073: Ah ouch
05:22 PM Tom_L: JT-Shop, who pushed it?
05:23 PM jym: Oh man, that sucks JT-Shop, hope all is okey
05:23 PM * jym points at Tom_L
05:24 PM * Tom_L fells a tree toward jym's barrel stove
05:24 PM jym: Tom_L: Thanks! it'll save me from haivng the crush it
05:24 PM jym: to*
05:25 PM Tom_L: not working out as planned?
05:26 PM jym: Tom_L: No. I figure the ratio (8:1) is just too great.
05:27 PM JT-Shop: what a fucking mess that is... gonna take days to sort out
05:28 PM jym: JT-Shop: Rack broke? came undone?
05:30 PM Tom_L: i can't imagine one of JT-Shop's racks breaking
05:31 PM JT-Shop: it was just standing up and if I had a rack it would never break even if you parked a tank on it
05:31 PM jym: ah
05:32 PM JT-Shop: every time I tried to stand a piece up more kept going down so I said fuck it and pushed them all down
05:32 PM jym: JT-Shop: BTDT
05:35 PM skunkworks: update coming! ;) https://groups.yahoo.com/neo/groups/mach1mach2cnc/conversations/messages/152686
05:35 PM malcom2073: Woohoo new bugs!
05:37 PM jym: JT-Shop: how much drywall do you have to patch?
05:37 PM Tom_L: none
05:38 PM Tom_L: it was all chipboard
05:38 PM JT-Shop: ain't got no drywall in the shops
05:38 PM JT-Shop: Oh Shitty Board
05:38 PM jym: ok, OSB patching then?
05:38 PM JT-Shop: I don't even know where to start or where to stack all that crap
05:39 PM * Tom_L senses a rack project up and coming
05:39 PM * jym seconds the rack project
05:39 PM JT-Shop: I just don't need all that extra work right now I'm up to my ears in work
05:39 PM Tom_L: better than sittin on yer arse
05:40 PM jym: maybe use the hoist as a temporary rack?
05:40 PM JT-Shop: and my windblows 7 pc keeps shutting down to top it off
05:40 PM JT-Shop: that's true Tom_L
05:40 PM Tom_L: shutting down??
05:40 PM Tom_L: not the blue screen is it?
05:40 PM JT-Shop: but I never sit on my ass even if I'm not making progress lol
05:40 PM andypugh: Oh, crikey. just did the halcmd -kf / loadusr halmeter pin motion.program-line with my running job. Says. 17380. Check the G-code, goes to line 105,000.
05:40 PM JT-Shop: yea just shuts down
05:41 PM Tom_L: try reseating the memory?
05:41 PM andypugh: Do I leave it running overnight?
05:41 PM jym: JT-Shop: sounds likeit might be overheating, can you check the BIOS temp settings?
05:41 PM JT-Shop: ouch trade problems with you andy
05:41 PM andypugh: Been running 3 hours already
05:41 PM JT-Shop: I think it is the video card
05:41 PM jym: JT-Shop: reseat it in the slot
05:42 PM jym: it helps sometimes
05:42 PM JT-Shop: it's a very high end card and expensive, done all that... even oiled the fan bearings
05:42 PM Tom_L: you were oiling fans the other day...
05:42 PM jym: ah
05:42 PM JT-Shop: that fan exactly
05:42 PM Tom_L: i've been known to put a small floor fan by my pc
05:43 PM jym: JT-Shop: maybe liquid cooling if it's a high end GPU
05:43 PM JT-Shop: I just put another chassis fan aimed at the video card
05:44 PM JT-Shop: sorta kinda
06:31 PM * JT-Shop gives up trying to clean up the mess and heads inside to cook dinner
07:05 PM Cromaglious_: just did another shower valve... dropped a face plate screw onto the ceiling of the downstairs took 30 minutes to figure out using cotton makeup pads taped to the end of a stick and the kaeup pad was covered in solder flux and the screw stuck to it
07:05 PM Cromaglious_: damn non magnetic screws
07:07 PM Cromaglious_: got white lithium spray.. gonna hit the x screw and guides...
07:28 PM andypugh: Bother!
07:28 PM andypugh: I was just trying to decide whether to leave the mill running all night.
07:29 PM andypugh: Because it was about 19k lines in to a 100k lines program,
07:29 PM andypugh: After 4 hours.
07:29 PM andypugh: (I need a faster spindle)
07:29 PM roycroft: what's the worst that can happen?
07:29 PM malcom2073: Fire, death, dismemberment
07:29 PM roycroft: anticipate that and you can't be surprised in the morning
07:30 PM malcom2073: Wake up with all your arms and fingers? It's a good day!
07:30 PM andypugh: But, as I was stood there, it stopped with a (spurious) joint.1.limit error
07:30 PM andypugh: And I have no idea where it actually was in the code..
07:32 PM andypugh: (except that I know it was at at least line 17k and probably 19k)
07:32 PM andypugh: But, then, Touchy only lets you start at lines with N-numbers anyway
07:34 PM andypugh: I am also rather puzzled by the error, unless a wire has broken…
07:35 PM andypugh: Inductive prox switches, and machining plastic.
07:38 PM andypugh: Making a lot of green swarf: https://goo.gl/photos/bMQ1QNU1cKSC9dim8
07:43 PM CaptHindsight: I'd add some red for contrast and xmas feel
07:45 PM CaptHindsight: sounds like Murphy paid you as visit
07:45 PM CaptHindsight: 1/5th into a big job and something weird happens
07:45 PM CaptHindsight: and it's time for sleep
07:47 PM Valen_ is now known as Valen
07:47 PM andypugh: Yes, just added an N001 at a likely restart point. (it’s a G0)
07:48 PM andypugh: And I have resolvers and accurate homing, so can reliably restart jobs.
07:50 PM andypugh: Something wierd in the 2 minutes in the last 4 hours that I have been watching the machine, too.
08:00 PM CaptHindsight: hi Valen
08:46 PM Valen: howdy
08:54 PM jym: XXCoder: http://www.aquabarrel.com/product_downspout_big_mouth_outlet.php
08:56 PM jym: Um, whaaat?! http://www.egutter.com/RAIN-GUTTER-COMMERCIAL-GUTTERS-GUTTER-SUPPLY-GUTTER-GUARDS/Downspout-Accessories-Strainers-Rain-Drain-Flex-Spouts/The-Gutter-Pump
08:58 PM CaptHindsight: don't they have gutter snakes?
08:59 PM jym: XXCoder: http://downspout-adapters.com/commercial-downspout-adapters/
09:00 PM jym: CaptHindsight: My idea is to open up the downspout so there is no need for all that
09:00 PM jym: screw these 2x3 downsouts, 4" pipe!
09:01 PM jym: shove a pinecone down that sucker!
09:01 PM jym: no problemo!
09:01 PM roycroft: all gutters do is concentrate the water flow to one spot
09:01 PM roycroft: tear them down
09:02 PM roycroft: and you'll have small amounts of water everywhere
09:02 PM roycroft: instead of a lot of water in one place
09:02 PM jym: and no foundation
09:02 PM roycroft: who needs foundations?
09:02 PM jym: yeah, no thanks
09:03 PM roycroft: if it's a long gutter run from end to end of the building, another approach could be to add an additional downspout at the other end and repitch the gutters from the center of the run out to each end
09:03 PM jym: WOW, that's some scray shit right there... http://i173.photobucket.com/albums/w67/143house/gutter/downspout.jpg
09:04 PM jym: Ha! I have a 14ft gutter with two downspouts and it STILL overflows!
09:04 PM roycroft: but you don't live in oregon ...
09:05 PM jym: roycroft: and you dont live on the moon?!
09:05 PM roycroft: no, i live where all the rain is
09:05 PM jym: great!
09:05 PM roycroft: how are you getting some of my rain?
09:06 PM jym: I'm at 3000ft in the forest?
09:07 PM roycroft: if you can't handle the runoff with two downspouts on a 14' run then your gutters themselves may be undersized, as well as the existing downspouts
09:08 PM roycroft: sounds like you have a lot of roof area dumping into that little gutter
09:12 PM insomnia is now known as clownshoes
09:14 PM {HD}: I cannot afford the percisoion measuring equipment I want!
09:15 PM {HD}: A 6" machinest level is 200$!
09:16 PM DavenportGuy: buy a surface grinder
09:16 PM DavenportGuy: make as much as you can =D
09:17 PM CaptHindsight: jym: if you store food above the downspout will the ants and other insects crawl they way up and in doing so unclog the downspout?
09:17 PM {HD}: CaptHindsight: lol
09:17 PM roycroft: or drop small explosives into the downspouts and let them blast the blockages out
09:18 PM CaptHindsight: my first thought was cherry bombs
09:18 PM {HD}: DavenportGuy: Huh? are you talking to me?
09:18 PM {HD}: Just take a pressure washer up there and blast it.
09:19 PM DavenportGuy: {HD}: yeah you could make your own steel block and add any bubble level
09:19 PM {HD}: DavenportGuy: Oh, I would like a surface grinder but those are even more expensive!
09:20 PM DavenportGuy: nah, you can pick them up for like $750 if you keep your eyes open
09:20 PM DavenportGuy: an old beat up one still does a good job in most cases
09:20 PM {HD}: There is actually a surface grinder on CL right now for only 600$ but, it is kind of really far from here.
09:20 PM DavenportGuy: wherebouts are you?
09:20 PM {HD}: Southeastern Midwest
09:21 PM DavenportGuy: very definitive
09:21 PM DavenportGuy: sure it isnt southeastern northwest?
09:21 PM {HD}: lol, yea.
09:22 PM Wolf_: my level cost me $89
09:22 PM {HD}: Wolf_: That is not too bad...what kind? used?
09:22 PM Wolf_: starrett 98-12 used off ebay
09:23 PM CaptHindsight: http://www.ebay.com/itm/191975262564 Wire Crimp Connector, anyone find a low cost source for these without a 10+ day ship time?
09:24 PM {HD}: DavenportGuy: Its a DoAll but he doesnt say the model
09:24 PM DavenportGuy: {HD}: go nuts https://www.surplusrecord.com/srg/009517.htm
09:27 PM DavenportGuy: {HD}: when im on websites like that and I need to look for something local I just hit "CTRL+F" which brings up the word find for that page and I type in my state
09:28 PM CaptHindsight: https://chicago.craigslist.org/nwc/tls/6059910391.html were these stored outside?
09:29 PM CaptHindsight: Boring Bars Kennametal 2.5"x 16" CNC Machinist Tooling - $60
09:30 PM {HD}: CaptHindsight: Yikes, those are rough.
09:32 PM {HD}: DavenportGuy: Holy shit. what is that site? The CL of machinests?
09:32 PM {HD}: DavenportGuy: There is no price listed =/
09:34 PM DavenportGuy: {HD}: just dont hassle dick unless you are ready to make a purchase and he will take good care of you
09:34 PM DavenportGuy: you can reach to people individually usually just email or call em
09:37 PM {HD}: This guy has a doall D8...but no pictures.
09:41 PM jym: CaptHindsight: I think the squirrels would get the food before the ants would
09:42 PM DavenportGuy: you need an itsy bitsy spider
09:45 PM DavenportGuy: I bet there is a market out there for a snake robot that you feed into a downspout and it cleans and entire gutter system automatically, which then the lawn service people would just recover the robot when finished
09:45 PM DavenportGuy: pure genius i know...
09:46 PM roycroft: cherry bombs are more fun
09:46 PM Wolf_: I would just use a sewer jetting hose on a pressure washer
09:47 PM DavenportGuy: dang, I just looked them up.... yep they make em
09:47 PM DavenportGuy: you kinda just toss em in the top though, meh
09:47 PM DavenportGuy: I was thinking more like clean downspouts as well, maybe too niche
10:20 PM CaptHindsight: an upgehsootingdownspoutscleanerouter
10:20 PM CaptHindsight: if English worked liked German
11:06 PM Cromaglious_ is now known as Crom