#linuxcnc Logs
Feb 25 2017
#linuxcnc Calendar
12:09 AM MacGalempsy: was regular wolf already taken?
12:11 AM XXCoder: ?
12:11 AM MacGalempsy: the nick.
12:11 AM Wolf_: yeah, its registered
12:11 AM MacGalempsy: xxcoder whats up on your friday night? time to lurk the honies at the bar?
12:11 AM XXCoder: nah
12:11 AM XXCoder: I dont do night life
12:12 AM MacGalempsy: day life?
12:12 AM XXCoder: nah lol
12:13 AM MacGalempsy: just run up and offer a soylent?
12:14 AM XXCoder: :P
12:15 AM MacGalempsy: me and the night mud logger are contemplating jailyard workouts since its so slow drilling
12:16 AM MacGalempsy: need a jump rope and cynderblocks
12:16 AM XXCoder: im wondering a little
12:16 AM XXCoder: as a hobby why not do some on side printing job or cnc milling
12:16 AM XXCoder: or is that too much like work
12:16 AM MacGalempsy: me or you
12:17 AM XXCoder: you
12:20 AM MacGalempsy: since this is my first field stint, i didnt know what to expect. so i have nothing but my tab and phone
12:20 AM XXCoder: I would have also bought kindle pw2 with lots ebooks
12:20 AM MacGalempsy: got a sketchbook and drawing up a hopper and spreader to build. will probably order a computer and mesa card soon
12:21 AM MacGalempsy: kicking around between the j1900 and g3260
12:22 AM MacGalempsy: the j1900 is kind of sluggish when trying to stream from an ipcam
12:22 AM XXCoder: making stuff for work is what you do at worksite?
12:23 AM MacGalempsy: i just analyze drilling data at a desk
12:24 AM MacGalempsy: so sometimes there is ample downtime
12:25 AM MacGalempsy: ie slow drilling, changing bits, or rig repair
12:27 AM MacGalempsy: coming up with ideas is better than watching the boob tube or play wow
12:36 AM XXCoder: interesting
12:36 AM XXCoder: but yeah I dont watch much tv now
12:36 AM XXCoder: crap on tv lol
12:38 AM MacGalempsy: what would be nice is to get a portable machine together, get people out here interested enough to make them want to buy one
12:39 AM XXCoder: portable cnc machine?
12:40 AM enleth: a little piece of trivia: I bought a discount store drill sharpener for an equivalent of $25, it's a little 60W DC motor-driven 40mm diamond wheel with a crappy plasticky drillbit holder
12:40 AM enleth: grinds at a somewhat weird angle, producing a rather pointy drill
12:40 AM XXCoder: theres thingverse 3d printed rill sharper addon for dermel
12:41 AM MacGalempsy: 118 deg angle on the drill tip?
12:42 AM enleth: I haven't gotten around to actually measure this angle but it looked pointier than I'd expect 118deg to be
12:43 AM MacGalempsy: can you adjust the angle?
12:44 AM enleth: anyway, while it's definitely plasticky and chinese, it did sharpen a completely busted carcass of a 4mm drill bit into something that was able to drill through a chunk of 40mm steel plate with relative ease, producing nice chips and a pleasant sound of cut steel
12:44 AM enleth: MacGalempsy: no, the receptacle for the drill holder is at a fixed angle to the wheel
12:45 AM MacGalempsy: sounds like a good device! link?
12:45 AM enleth: it can be turned on a pivot to produce the rounded-off relief
12:46 AM enleth: looks almost identical to this, just painted different colors: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/96W-ELECTRIC-MULTI-PURPOSE-HSS-DRILL-BIT-CHISEL-KNIFE-SCISSOR-PLANE-SHARPENER-/331901827767
12:46 AM enleth: https://www.offerscheck.co.uk/parkside-sharpening-station/lidl/2015/kw-11/242561 - that's the thing I actually got
12:47 AM XXCoder: so it resharps all edge and end?
12:47 AM enleth: just the tip for drills
12:47 AM XXCoder: oh makes sense as that does most work
12:48 AM enleth: it's got a chisel sharpening and knife/scissors sharpening attachment too, haven't tested those
12:49 AM enleth: it's definitely much better than those funny contraptions with a beveled abrasive ring and a bunch of holes for different sized drills
12:49 AM XXCoder: thing im talking about https://www.thingiverse.com/thing:1024834
12:50 AM enleth: well, for very small drills it might work
12:50 AM enleth: that thing of mine will take up to 10mm
12:50 AM XXCoder: yeah its good for cheap fix for small drills
12:50 AM XXCoder: max 1/4 in maybe
12:51 AM enleth: anyway, now I need to train a bunch of people to no longer throw dull/broken bits away
12:51 AM enleth: this thing can still turn them into something useful
12:51 AM XXCoder: great idea
12:51 AM MacGalempsy: craigslist ad :)
12:58 AM MacGalempsy: why is it that fierce cinnamon hot tamales dont seem so fierce?
01:05 AM MacGalempsy: cant believe i just ate all those... i guess the mean fierce on the stomach, not the taste buds...
01:15 AM XXCoder: heh
01:27 AM BipolarBear is now known as ApocalypseCow
01:34 AM MacGalempsy: lookz like bull market
01:37 AM XXCoder: ?
01:38 AM MacGalempsy: the name change from bear to cow.
01:38 AM MacGalempsy: a stockmarket pun
01:40 AM XXCoder: yea just no idea if good or bad or mix
01:53 AM Deejay: moin
01:53 AM XXCoder: MacGalempsy: ah nick change?
01:54 AM XXCoder: hey
01:56 AM MacGalempsy: yeah
01:56 AM MacGalempsy: sorry looking at laser modules
01:56 AM XXCoder: ahh I thought you was commentinh about stocks, so i was confused
01:57 AM MacGalempsy: lol. nah. it was about that nick change
01:58 AM MacGalempsy: they say ir is the way to go, will have to quiz captH on power levels. the ones i see say dont go over 30C
01:58 AM MacGalempsy: but to get a few deg below petg is 220 ish
01:58 AM XXCoder: ir for what?
01:58 AM MacGalempsy: sls printer
01:58 AM MacGalempsy: ir laser
01:59 AM XXCoder: ahh
01:59 AM MacGalempsy: it can do clear and white plastics.
01:59 AM XXCoder: I do want sls but just expensive lol
01:59 AM XXCoder: indeed as its not transparent to ir.
01:59 AM XXCoder: I made goggles that let only small part of ir in, it was very interesting
02:00 AM MacGalempsy: if i can develop and design at work, then i can cut at home. lol
02:09 AM MacGalempsy: hmm ttl vs laser tube...
02:09 AM XXCoder: laser. dont forget to find sharks too.
02:09 AM MacGalempsy: yessssss
02:11 AM MacGalempsy: 130 for a 1.6w 808nm laser
02:12 AM MacGalempsy: says focusable
02:13 AM MacGalempsy: wonder what the dot size is? probably needs another lense
02:13 AM XXCoder: just in case you took my advice seriously (not likely) I dont know much about lasers just joking
02:14 AM MacGalempsy: too late. already have my lawyers on your a$$
02:15 AM XXCoder: yay, was feeling lonely
02:16 AM SpeedEvil: MacGalempsy: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/6W-NUBM44-450nm-Laser-Diode-In-Copper-Module-W-Leads-Glass-Lens-/171841778046?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item280291717e
02:17 AM XXCoder: 6w module?
02:17 AM XXCoder: dang'
02:17 AM MacGalempsy: yeah a beast!
02:17 AM XXCoder: I thought doides stop at say 500mW or so?
02:18 AM MacGalempsy: if one can get it with a few deg of melting laser power can be minimal
02:18 AM XXCoder: actually saw 1.5k mW so 1.5w
02:18 AM MacGalempsy: that 1.6w was adjustable. but max temp is 30c
02:19 AM MacGalempsy: maybe use mirrors and a collimator
02:19 AM SpeedEvil: XXCoder: you can get up to a few watts, before you start going to multi-die emitters with very large emitter spacing that mean you need to use fibre-optic light guides
02:19 AM MacGalempsy: keep it outside the the heated section
02:19 AM XXCoder: guess that explains the price
02:39 AM MacGalempsy: so tonights rig arguement is.....
02:40 AM MacGalempsy: .... is steven seagal legit? lol
03:31 AM MacGalempsy: still nothing going on.
03:34 AM XXCoder: https://xkcd.com/1786/
03:34 AM XXCoder: maybe you guys can dump oil drilling waste there.
03:36 AM MacGalempsy: there really isnt much waste. it usually gets reconditioned and reused.
03:37 AM MacGalempsy: lol. it just loaded
03:37 AM MacGalempsy: we need blackhole technology so we dont have to drill
03:38 AM MacGalempsy: or maybe a large laser to vaporize the rock
03:38 AM XXCoder: nah ZPM would do fine
03:38 AM MacGalempsy: zpm?
03:38 AM XXCoder: zero point err forgot what m is heh
03:38 AM XXCoder: stargate fictional power
03:39 AM MacGalempsy: cool. maybe a giant ruby laser pulsed by lightening
03:40 AM XXCoder: nah its just small machine, uses zero point energy
03:40 AM MacGalempsy: oh. we need it to pulse so we dont lase the hole too deep
03:42 AM MacGalempsy: 1mm diameter hole in rock required 1kw laser
03:42 AM SpeedEvil: It varies with sort of rock
03:43 AM SpeedEvil: some has phase changes at usefully low temperature, so fractures out of the way easily
03:43 AM MacGalempsy: so like 250kw laser to get a 8.75" hole
03:43 AM XXCoder: mac if laser, would still need pipe, just lead with laser to vaporize, and need vacuum up result of laser
03:44 AM MacGalempsy: yeah one would need to case it off
03:44 AM MacGalempsy: the laser would sear the annular interface
03:45 AM XXCoder: heh I know of better way if we can use fictional tech
03:45 AM XXCoder: one book has invention where spacetime flaws can be cheaply made
03:46 AM XXCoder: any atoms that touch it fakks out of univese
03:46 AM MacGalempsy: nice article on industrial-lasers.com
03:46 AM XXCoder: basically its infinitely sharp tool.
03:46 AM XXCoder: in fact, using it for mill tool and lathe tool was one of their earier tests lol
03:47 AM minibnz: Yay i have had a productive day.. i have managed to calibrate my spindle RPM's and close the loop so PID appears to try and get the speed right.. and on top of that i have even been able to implement a delay into the speed/motor control of the spindle so no longer does the motor box yellow light me..
03:47 AM MacGalempsy: extraction of waste seems to be the difficult part
03:47 AM minibnz: it was a shame i had to do the delay in the PLC and not via hal but hey...
03:48 AM MacGalempsy: 500W to 1.4kW
03:50 AM minibnz: half a day toiling with hal solved in 5 mins with the PLC
03:51 AM MacGalempsy: nice. classic ladder?
03:51 AM minibnz: yup
03:51 AM MacGalempsy: or a real plc?
03:51 AM MacGalempsy: cool
03:51 AM minibnz: only needed on rung with three lines on there..
03:51 AM MacGalempsy: lol. amazing the problems it solves.
03:52 AM minibnz: two timers.. if i put more time into it could have used only one timer but meh..
03:52 AM MacGalempsy: i did the same thing with the momentary on off buttons
03:52 AM minibnz: i think i am about ready to break some M3 tapps..
03:55 AM minibnz: i dont really mind adding in the CL as i am going to finish off my tool changer soon so that will need it for at lest some parts i am sure... andypugh has a nice tool carrousel module that i have been playing with it looks like it will do 90% of what i need add in a little sprinkle of PLC magic and i will be away..
03:57 AM minibnz: next time i take my drawbar apart i will have to look at modifying the encoder setup on the spindle. it appears that the signals from the encoder die off above 700rpm..
03:58 AM minibnz: not sure where the problem is yet, could be my home made encoder wheel not having big enough holes to let enough light thru for the speeds
03:58 AM MacGalempsy: i cant wait to get home for a few days to work on my machine again. at this ratr that may be mid march
03:58 AM minibnz: the signals on the CRO look ok
03:59 AM MacGalempsy: mine only has a quad encoder
03:59 AM MacGalempsy: no switches
03:59 AM minibnz: i made a full quadrature with AB and Index
04:01 AM MacGalempsy: does it have any switches?
04:01 AM MacGalempsy: or just the encoder?
04:01 AM minibnz: three opto's. . i think i got the pull up resistors on it are not 100% right for the response time i need. but the CRO says im ok.. so i might be going to fast for the mesa card. 48holes per rev 700rpm is 33khz
04:01 AM minibnz: just the encoder for the spindle
04:02 AM minibnz: no switches
04:02 AM MacGalempsy: hmmm. i thought the carousel needed switches
04:02 AM minibnz: oh no this is on the spindle.. not the carpusel
04:02 AM MacGalempsy: ok. ok
04:03 AM minibnz: my carousel prototype has switches and it works good off the parport but i havent tried it yet off the mesa card
04:03 AM MacGalempsy: mine only has a&b. the index is an inductive sensor
04:03 AM minibnz: thats ok
04:04 AM MacGalempsy: the carosel is only abz
04:04 AM MacGalempsy: so have messed some with it but ended up getting called to work right as it was getting interesti g
04:04 AM minibnz: the problem i had with my carousel proto was it was made of plastic and it could not hold the weight of the 18tool holders so they were never pointing straight up and would not align with the spindle
04:05 AM MacGalempsy: heh. time to machine some
04:06 AM MacGalempsy: i need to get an optocoupler on the spindle sensor to get it down to ttl
04:06 AM minibnz: oh no.. thats too much work.. it was painful cutting the ones from plastic, cutting them from aluminium would be a PITA.. i have a quote to get them laser cut for 750au
04:06 AM MacGalempsy: so it will tap
04:07 AM minibnz: i was told you would need at least 48 holes on your spindle to tap other wise you will snap a lot of taps getting the settings right.
04:08 AM minibnz: i am considering snapping a tap in a few mins.. if i can get the balls up to see if the last few weeks of upgrades have been worth it..
04:08 AM MacGalempsy: time to nut up!
04:09 AM minibnz: the things that scares me is my Z axis is not really that fast so even with a M3 tap @ 0.25mm pitch the fastest i can spin my spindle is 240rpm
04:09 AM minibnz: if i have to change what i have on my Z axis again its going to get complicated.
04:09 AM MacGalempsy: as long as its syncronized
04:09 AM minibnz: i like the handle on the side so i can use it as a drill press for odd things..
04:10 AM MacGalempsy: did you get the drop to go away
04:10 AM minibnz: oh yeah.. thats seems to have gone when i removed all but 0.15mm of the backlash.. i was shocked when i got it down that low and had to get the dial indicator out to make sure the verniers were not lying
04:11 AM minibnz: and today i think i found where some of that 0.15mm might be coming from the pulley was loose so i tightened it up and loctited the grubscrews in so hopefulley it wont come loose again
04:11 AM MacGalempsy: heh. 15% of a 1mm thread pitch may be a stretch
04:12 AM MacGalempsy: start with a bigger tap
04:12 AM minibnz: hmm maybe i should try tapping some candle wax first :)
04:12 AM MacGalempsy: yeah
04:12 AM MacGalempsy: or plastic
04:12 AM minibnz: bigger tap would mean turning my spindle slower and i can only get 100rpm reliably
04:13 AM minibnz: i have some plastic kicking around..
04:13 AM minibnz: might evne over drill the hole a little for the first few attempts
04:13 AM MacGalempsy: yeah i read that helps
04:14 AM MacGalempsy: also if you let the tap slip a little
04:14 AM MacGalempsy: like dont tighten it 100%
04:15 AM minibnz: hmmm i was thinking about getting/making some sliding/springloaded tap holders that have a little travel up and down
04:17 AM MacGalempsy: time to get a bulk deal on some taps for trial and error
04:18 AM minibnz: i was a the tool shop the other day these guys are known to be cheap as.. i got 4 M3 speed taps for $30 :(
04:19 AM minibnz: a goldish color so i dont think they are hss :) it might not be that bad a deal
04:19 AM minibnz: that and 1 more m3 hss tapp was all he had so i took the lot.
04:21 AM MacGalempsy: just think of all the time youll save over making a tappi g jig ;)
04:22 AM minibnz: hmmm the three weeks i have spent trying to config and upgrade i could have had a pretty sweet tapping jig :)
04:24 AM MacGalempsy: but you arent breaking endmills now either
04:24 AM MacGalempsy: can you get a beefier hydaulic lift?
04:25 AM minibnz: no i havent snapped one i a little bit actually now that i tink about it
04:25 AM minibnz: shouldn't be too hard to find a bigger gas strut at the wrecking yard..
04:25 AM MacGalempsy: thats definitely progress
04:26 AM MacGalempsy: nah. you can talk to a gas lift company for a custom job.
04:26 AM minibnz: the first time i went the guy was like whats it off whats it for?? just go out the back there is a drum of them in the store
04:26 AM MacGalempsy: i got one for my carousel and there was an option for custom jobs
04:27 AM MacGalempsy: attwood gas lifts. its us based, but maybe they can help you w specs
04:27 AM minibnz: hmmm might not be a bad idea weighing my head and setting one thats just right for it.. might increase the Z speed
04:27 AM MacGalempsy: then you can atleast know if there os a premade model or not
04:29 AM MacGalempsy: they may say you need one for a 2012 ford minivan or some shit like that
04:29 AM MacGalempsy: new one for mine was like $20
04:30 AM MacGalempsy: if you get the mass of the head and the length of the actuator, i can save you the price of a call to them.
04:32 AM minibnz: just found a place here in australia that does it.. you have convinced me i will send off for a quote.. but first i need to get a set of scales to weigh the head..
04:33 AM MacGalempsy: maybe a household scale?
04:33 AM MacGalempsy: with a 4x4 block
04:34 AM minibnz: thats the thing i have no weighing utensiles here what so ever..
04:35 AM minibnz: and bathroom scales on the bed, then loosen off the gibs should do the job, last time i took it off i nearly caught my hands in the fast spinning handles.
04:35 AM Longbow: hello, anyone knows why mesa 7i77 gives an error of over current on outputs? I have wired them to relays with a max of 50mA
04:35 AM minibnz: is your power supply upto the job?
04:36 AM Longbow: all outputs on the card are wired to the same type relays, and some outputs work others give fault
04:36 AM Longbow: I have extrenal 5V supply and field voltage of 30VDC
04:36 AM minibnz: i only have a 5i24 so i dont know all that much..
04:38 AM MacGalempsy: longbow is your wiring correct?
04:38 AM MacGalempsy: i had that on mine and the relays were reversed
04:38 AM minibnz: dont have some diodes backwards do you?
04:38 AM Longbow: It should be. If I disconnect the outputs it gives 30VDC on the output normally
04:38 AM MacGalempsy: yeah. thats what im thinking
04:39 AM MacGalempsy: sometimes if you look at the picture on the relay it reverse of the actual terminals
04:39 AM Longbow: But if I connect that 30VDC on the output to my relay(50mA) it gives an error ofo overcurrent. But not on all the outputs
04:39 AM Longbow: A relay coil can be reversed
04:39 AM MacGalempsy: not if there is a diode
04:40 AM Longbow: aha
04:40 AM MacGalempsy: if you have a led on there its got a diode
04:40 AM minibnz: usually there is a diode put across the relay and its there for protection, you need to put it in the correct way or it will draw a crap load of current out of the port
04:41 AM Longbow: let me check
04:42 AM minibnz: the line on the diode should go to the +ve side of the relay
04:43 AM MacGalempsy: check the terminal numbers on the mount and the relay.
04:43 AM minibnz: what happens is, when you turn on the relay the current cannot flow thru the diode so it goes into the relay, when you turn off the relay you get a spike that is backwards to what you turned it on with, so the diode will allow the current to flow and it will effectively short the spike out and do no damamge..
04:43 AM MacGalempsy: mine had 13 on the right of the relay, but it was on the left on the mount
04:44 AM minibnz: some relays have diodes built in for this purpose so check your wires too
04:50 AM Longbow: IT WORKS
04:51 AM Longbow: it was the relays. All looked the same with the same part number but some had the polarity inverted.
04:51 AM Longbow: very strange:)
04:51 AM Longbow: All where bought in the same shop :D
04:51 AM MacGalempsy: hmmm.
04:52 AM MacGalempsy: congrats. 1 step closer
05:26 AM jthornton: morning
05:29 AM minibnz: morning..
05:29 AM minibnz: im about to see if i can snap a tap with a g33
05:29 AM XXCoder: hey jt
05:32 AM jthornton: G33? not G33.1?
05:33 AM jthornton: get your 5v hooked up
05:35 AM XXCoder: little bit of digestive distress :P
05:35 AM minibnz: yeah G33.1 i just ran it with no tools and it looks like it might work
05:36 AM minibnz: yeah got the encoder working and i think i have even got the closed loop spindle stuff going with pid.
05:36 AM minibnz: actually while i have the box open i am going to wire in my power drawbar now its all good.
05:37 AM minibnz: then i will have a go at snapping a tap
05:44 AM jthornton: try tapping some wood first if your unsure also look at your tap with a loop to check the edges are not worn
05:54 AM jthornton: well heck I thought the pncconf wizard had 7i92 but it only has 7i76e
06:03 AM _methods: morning
06:03 AM _methods: jthornton: you up early
06:03 AM _methods: minibnz: you up late lol
06:03 AM jthornton: I'm usually up by 5am
06:04 AM _methods: unfortunately i usually am too
06:05 AM _methods: gettin the quads ready to go flyin
06:08 AM jthornton: got my taranis yesterday... pretty cool radio
06:09 AM _methods: you get x9d?
06:09 AM jthornton: ya
06:09 AM _methods: i have a modded all to hell th9x
06:09 AM jthornton: with the hard travel case
06:10 AM _methods: good radio
06:10 AM jthornton: I like the programming it seems so easy to do anything you want
06:10 AM _methods: seems to be the gold standard
06:10 AM _methods: you putting opentx on it?
06:11 AM jthornton: the only thing people complain abut are the gimbals
06:11 AM jthornton: it came with opentx
06:11 AM _methods: i don't think the gimbals are bad
06:11 AM _methods: better than the ones that came with the th9x
06:11 AM jthornton: they don't feel bad to me either
06:11 AM _methods: hell i replaced my gimbals with taranis gimbals lol
06:12 AM _methods: what you flyin?
06:13 AM MacGalempsy: when you say mod, what kind of changes do you make to it?
06:14 AM _methods: replaced the gimbals, added battery pack, swapped out the microprocessor with atmega2561
06:14 AM MacGalempsy: was just reading a sales page on it, but dont see the modding aspect
06:14 AM _methods: and flashed with er9x
06:14 AM MacGalempsy: ah ik
06:14 AM MacGalempsy: ok
06:14 AM _methods: i'd probably just get a taranis now though
06:14 AM _methods: not really worth it to do what i've done
06:15 AM _methods: especially now that taranis is only like $160
06:17 AM jthornton: I wonder if I need to do anything to the SSD after I clone Linux Mint to it?
06:18 AM _methods: well i think you can do some stuff assuming you've installed to the ssd
06:19 AM jthornton: yea I see some things on the net about optimizing but it looks like you need to have the ssd to do that
06:20 AM _methods: you don't "have" to do that stuff
06:20 AM _methods: but if you want to run full tilt
07:07 AM minibnz: _methods yup got nothing to do but sleep and play with the mill tomorrow. I just failed to snap a M3 tap.. also failed to get a thread but no cutters were harmed.. as far as i could tell.. maybe i got the numbers wrong..
07:08 AM minibnz: oh wooops M3 has a 0.5mm pitch.. not a 0.25mm :(
07:08 AM minibnz: guess i should go and try again
07:08 AM X704 is now known as tiwake
07:30 AM * archivist giggles at the attempt to smash a tap
07:30 AM minibnz: well that was a fail.. guess i should see if i can feed the filtered rpm/rps signal to motion
07:31 AM minibnz: i can see my velocity reading is jumping all around.. it really should be a lot smoother
07:34 AM archivist: is your encoder ok regular spacing, proper phase
07:34 AM minibnz: i think its is.. but might not be
07:35 AM minibnz: the holes are even for a 50% duty
07:36 AM minibnz: but where my opto's are placed i seem to get a lot of low time between the two pulses that are pretty close to 50% crossing..
07:36 AM minibnz: that is the second pulse rises half way thru the first pulse and the first pulse falls half way thru the second pulse.
07:37 AM minibnz: but there is a fair amount of dead time between the pulses.
07:37 AM minibnz: i have 48 holes in my wheel
07:39 AM minibnz: something might not be right because the rpm reading wont go over 700 while i can hear the motor go faster, as you walk the scale as soon as you get to 700rpm the spindle takes off with the pid setting
07:41 AM minibnz: i have a fairly heavily filtered rpm reading for the guage on the screen and the at speed indicator so i should probably see if thats of any use.
07:44 AM Tom_itx: jthornton, samsung has a utility but i'm not sure it works under linux
07:44 AM Tom_itx: used for optimizing etc
07:45 AM Tom_itx: comes packaged with each drive
07:46 AM jthornton: yea I saw a cd under the drive
07:47 AM Tom_itx: i've got a pile of em if you want one
07:51 AM jthornton: ssd's?
07:51 AM Tom_itx: the cd
07:51 AM Tom_itx: i'm keepin the ssd's :D
07:52 AM jthornton: lol
07:57 AM Tom_itx: just figured you could repackage the drive without tearing up the box that way
07:59 AM jthornton: does the cd work with linux?
07:59 AM Tom_itx: i have no idea
07:59 AM Tom_itx: don't have anything to test it on right now
08:02 AM _methods: oh damn who's givin away ssd's
08:03 AM _methods: pm'd you my address you can ship them to Tom_itx
08:03 AM _methods: hahahah
08:03 AM _methods: be great if you could overnight them
08:05 AM Tom_itx: i'll just hand deliver em hoz that?
08:05 AM _methods: thx
08:05 AM _methods: hehe
08:05 AM * _methods waits impatiently
08:26 AM JT-Shop: the Taranis has linux software to configure it :)
08:26 AM _methods: yeah
08:27 AM _methods: the majority of the community seems to be oriented around windoze though
08:28 AM Tom_itx: as it should be
08:28 AM Tom_itx: messin with photoshop here
08:28 AM gregcnc: have those taranis been reliable? i haven't kept up
08:28 AM _methods: oh yeah
08:28 AM minibnz: bedtime for me.. talk with you all later..
08:29 AM _methods: pretty much the gold standard for budget transmitter
08:29 AM gregcnc: you RC too?
08:29 AM _methods: yeah
08:29 AM _methods: quads
08:29 AM DaViruz: the taranis stock battery is crap though
08:29 AM _methods: i replaced my batteries with life packs
08:29 AM _methods: li-fe
08:30 AM Tom_itx: ahh, now we're back on RC...
08:30 AM _methods: sorry
08:30 AM _methods: lol
08:30 AM Tom_itx: didn't know what taranis was
08:30 AM DaViruz: i just got quality NiMH cells, i wanted the keep the ability charge them in the transmitter
08:30 AM JT-Shop: did you keep the firmware up to date?
08:30 AM JT-Shop: I have 2.1.6 and the latest is 2.1.9
08:35 AM gregcnc: who decided store should stock 26 flavors of ballast compatible T8 LED and 1-2 bypass?
08:46 AM _methods: that would have been jym
08:47 AM _methods: formerly known as the artist named Jymmm
08:57 AM _methods: off to go fly
08:57 AM _methods: later
09:24 AM enleth: I'm trying to prepare a plywood "pallet" for milling a short run of (also plywood) parts - any hints/experiences? I'm modeling it together with the part itself, planning to include some kind of slot for a piece of aluminum/stainless angle to have a surface to indicate off of when re-setting the pallet on the mill, still thinking of the best way of providing a touchoff spot for an edge finder
09:25 AM enleth: the idea is that I mill the pallet and test in on one or two parts, recording a vide of the process, then someone else steps in and repeats that for the next 20, which is more or less what I suppose it should look like for actual short run production in job shops
09:26 AM enleth: I've just never done that before - as in, never prepared the process for someone else, always have been an operator for my own design
09:27 AM enleth: so I could get away with jigs that are not obvious to set up and use, I knew how they work anyway
09:29 AM enleth: for touchoff, I'd probably just make another slot for another piece of extrusion, perpendicular to the first one, so that after indicating the longer one, and possibly checking the other one, both can double as touch-off surfaces for the finder
09:29 AM enleth: but maybe there are better, more convenient ways from an operator's point of view
09:38 AM archivist: last time I made a jig ir had built in clamp so no need for indicating after set up
09:38 AM sliptoni` is now known as sliptonic
09:47 AM archivist: also had spigot machined for item location
10:02 AM jym: gregcnc: wouldn't it be cheaper just to replace the whole fixture?
10:04 AM gregcnc: actually no for some reaons they think they can rob you
10:06 AM jym: gregcnc: I bought some (what are the thinner bulbs?) 4ft fixtures, and they are pretty cheap. Not LED, but I thought the led bulbs were more of a retro fit to a bit "universal" to flourencent bulbs
10:07 AM gregcnc: I have fixtures, one with dead ballast. I already rewired some of my fixtures with 120V T8 LED couple years ago
10:08 AM gregcnc: but it seems like replacing a ballast for LED bulbs is dumb as hell who decided that was a good option?
10:08 AM gregcnc: all the ballasts were on clearance when I was at HD
10:09 AM gregcnc: so eventually these ballast compatible bulbs will be obsolete
10:11 AM jym: $16 http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-2-Light-White-T8-Fluorescent-Residential-Shop-Light-1233-RE/202994372
10:11 AM gregcnc: led
10:12 AM jym: The led bulbs you have are not retrofits?
10:13 AM jym: like this http://www.homedepot.com/p/Euri-Lighting-40W-Equivalent-4-ft-Bright-White-Hybrid-T8-Linear-LED-Light-Bulb-ET8-1140H/206750347
10:13 AM gregcnc: no direct 120 ballast bypass
10:13 AM jym: Why the fuck would an led need a balast?
10:14 AM gregcnc: 95% of what's in the stores is ballast compatible and won't work on 120VAC
10:14 AM jym: gregcnc: "Replaces fluorescent equivalent with no rewiring needed" http://www.homedepot.com/p/Philips-4-ft-T8-14-5-Watt-Daylight-5000K-Linear-LED-Light-Bulb-453886/205543917
10:15 AM jym: Are you SURE yours are not like that?
10:15 AM gregcnc: I purchased to replace in fixtures with bad ballasts, so yeah
10:15 AM gregcnc: I removed the ballasts and rewired the fixtures
10:16 AM jym: I can't find one led bulb that can't be used in in a flourncent t8 fixture
10:17 AM jym: That was the whole point... to be able to retrofit into existing t8 flouresent fixtures
10:17 AM gregcnc: that phillips will not operate on 120VAC directly, ballast required
10:18 AM jym: NONE of them do, that's the whole point.
10:18 AM jym: But it shouldn't require a SPECIAL ballast
10:18 AM jym: and a whole fiixture including ballast is $16
10:18 AM gregcnc: not true I have 120V no ballast now
10:18 AM jym: *shrug*
10:18 AM jym: Why?
10:19 AM jym: At $16 they are cheap enough
10:19 AM gregcnc: why replace a failed ballast for LED which doesn't NEED a ballast
10:19 AM jym: fuck replacing a ballast, replace the whole damn fixture =)
10:19 AM gregcnc: I have fixtures
10:19 AM gregcnc: that's the point
10:20 AM jym: and how much is a ballast?
10:20 AM gregcnc: who cares i want bulbs that don't use them
10:20 AM jym: hahaha
10:20 AM jym: and how much are non-ballast fixtures?
10:22 AM jym: The way I see it, $16 for a ballast fixture, that you could always remove the ballast from down the road is far cheaper than trying to preemptively get non-ballast fixtues now.
10:23 AM gregcnc: LED shoudl outlast the fixture
10:23 AM gregcnc: balalst that is
10:24 AM jym: That's what they said about CFL bulbs "last 10 years", more like 10 months, 18 if you are lucky.
10:25 AM jym: Maybe led are titally different, no clue. But I know they still get hot, more so than flouresent
10:25 AM jym: totally*
10:26 AM gregcnc: i have something like this, i'm just amazed it's not standard
10:26 AM gregcnc: www.ebay.com/itm/222158220448
10:28 AM jym: That sounds like there is ZERO ballast, 120V directly (one end only)
10:28 AM gregcnc: it is you just cut out the ballast and run N to the toher end
10:28 AM jym: oh nm, mis read
10:29 AM jym: So that is what you have now?
10:29 AM jym: If so, then why are you looking for a ballast?
10:30 AM gregcnc: i need more for more fixtures and not common in stores
10:31 AM gregcnc: I jus think it's silly that eventually the ballast will die, and you'll have a perfectly good LED that "needs" a ballast to run
10:32 AM jym: Wait, do you have those balastLESS bulbs or not?
10:32 AM gregcnc: I have some already converted and some still running FL with now dead bulbs and ballasts
10:33 AM gregcnc: and I need a couple 4' fixtures for the garage because screw in bulbs aren't cutting it.
10:34 AM gregcnc: http://www.homedepot.com/p/Lithonia-Lighting-Linkable-4-ft-White-LED-Strip-Light-MNLK-L48-830-M4/205570117
10:35 AM gregcnc: i like these but 80USD?
10:35 AM jym: Ok, so why not take your existing dead fitures, remove the ballast and wire them staight 110V and use your ballastless led bubs?
10:36 AM jym: You don't HAVE to use two bulb per fixture
10:36 AM gregcnc: exactly, but I need more 120V bulbs which i'll have to order because for whatever reason store don't actually have them.
10:36 AM gregcnc: which was my initial gripe
10:38 AM jym: gregcnc: http://www.homedepot.com/p/TOGGLED-48-in-T8-16-Watt-Cool-White-Dimmable-Linear-LED-Tube-Light-Bulb-D416-40311/206723426
10:38 AM jym: "Designed for direct connection to AC power"
10:38 AM gregcnc: buy two 7-10USD 3000Lumen LED bulbs rewire fixture vs min 40USD for a 3000lumen LED fixture
10:39 AM gregcnc: that ebay link was $4.80/bulb delivered
10:39 AM jym: then click BUY NOW, but HD has the link I gave above
10:40 AM gregcnc: not at that price
10:42 AM gregcnc: the ballast bypass types were actually available long before direct replacement
11:14 AM jym: gregcnc: Well, have you clicked BUY NOW yet? lol
11:28 AM ktchk: Hi Haas again the icop pcb what is it
11:46 AM enleth: archivist: that's the idea, I'm designing in spigots for the part; I meant aligning and locating the jig itself on the mill
12:09 PM archivist: enleth, I machined the jig on the mill so it was "in place" :)
12:28 PM enleth: archivist: so you didn't have to take it off between batches, right?
12:28 PM enleth: I'm probably going to have to
12:34 PM archivist: enleth, no both time I have done that I just did one batch
01:14 PM seb_kuzm1nsky is now known as seb_kuzminsky
01:32 PM MrSunshine: so over 420mm i got 5mm of tilt .. to make that how much a surface is tilting would that be (for an 80mm surface) 5/420 * 80 ?
01:33 PM MrSunshine: so 1mm of tilt over a 80mm surface .. thats quite alot :/
01:33 PM jym: JT-Shop: Did you get your stove pipe installed in the roof? If so, what size/type pipe did you use? And what's it's rating for clearance from combustables?
01:48 PM JT-Shop: got that up a while back, got the parts from Menards
01:53 PM sync_: MrSunshine: it is common to calculate it per meter
01:53 PM MrSunshine: MIG straightening a 150mm X axis for the cnc machine .. oh what fun it is to ride =)
01:53 PM MrSunshine: sync_: well i had only 42mm to measure over now
01:53 PM MrSunshine: 42cm
01:54 PM MrSunshine: 11,5mm over 1 meter ..
02:44 PM chopper79: Hello all
02:48 PM chopper79: Today is shop cleaning day. Figured it was a great day for that. Anybody up to anything interesting?
02:54 PM SpeedEvil: http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Hi-X6-Plus-Linear-CNC-Mill-with-4th-Axis-DRO-Quick-Change-Tooling-/182466725876 - sigh. Popped up 3 miles from me. Alas not at that price.
02:57 PM roycroft: i am brewing for the first time in 8 months today!
02:58 PM chopper79: Nice... what is on the menu?
02:58 PM roycroft: i'm making a bitter
02:58 PM chopper79: I love home brew.
02:59 PM SpeedEvil: I accidentally home-brewed once.
02:59 PM SpeedEvil: I made some pineapple yogurt, and then left it in the cupboard a little long.
02:59 PM chopper79: leave the apple cider in the firdge to long?
02:59 PM SpeedEvil: It fermented, and though I knew I shouldn't eat it, it was so damn delicious.
03:00 PM chopper79: pineapple yogurt does sound good.
03:00 PM JT-Shop2: been a couple of years since I brewed a hefi
03:00 PM roycroft: hefe is a lawnmower beer to me
03:00 PM roycroft: and it's not summer yet
03:00 PM chopper79: did a batch of shine a few years back. Last time I did anythinig
03:00 PM SpeedEvil: I've taken to DIY yogurt, make with twice concentrated skimmed milk powder, and ~30-40% of frozen fruit.
03:01 PM roycroft: bitter is light and refreshing
03:01 PM roycroft: but still a good year-round beer
03:02 PM chopper79: I like beer year around myself.
03:02 PM roycroft: since it's english ale day, i'm playing old british prog rock all day
03:03 PM roycroft: genesis, pink floyd, elp, gentle giant, yes, etc.
03:03 PM chopper79: Sounds like a good day then
03:04 PM roycroft: i haven't listened to some of this stuff in years
03:04 PM roycroft: my brew days are generally thematic
03:05 PM roycroft: i'm drinking a pint of bitter while brewing the bitter
03:05 PM chopper79: How it should be
03:05 PM roycroft: when i brew belgian ales it's kind of weird
03:05 PM roycroft: belgian pop music is very strange
03:05 PM chopper79: lol
03:05 PM roycroft: belgian traditional/folk music all but non-existent
03:06 PM roycroft: most of my belgian music is flemish
03:06 PM roycroft: there isn't much wallonian belgian pop music
03:06 PM roycroft: scottish ale day is the most fun though
03:06 PM roycroft: i get to brew in a kilt and play pipe music
03:06 PM roycroft: and annoy the hell out of my neighbors
03:07 PM JT-Shop2: lol
03:07 PM chopper79: nice
03:07 PM roycroft: i should clarify
03:07 PM roycroft: i play recorded pipe music
03:07 PM roycroft: at a fairly reasonable level
03:08 PM R2E4_bevins: like bagpipes?
03:08 PM roycroft: if i actually brought my bagpipe out to the garage and played with the door open i would annoy the whole neighborhood
03:08 PM roycroft: yes
03:08 PM R2E4_bevins: Do you wear a dress too?
03:08 PM roycroft: no
03:08 PM roycroft: a kilt
03:08 PM chopper79: should give it a try during scottish ale day
03:09 PM chopper79: just to do it
03:09 PM roycroft: perhaps next year i'll brew on rabbie burns' day
03:09 PM roycroft: and dress in full kit and play the bagpipe
03:09 PM chopper79: awesome
03:09 PM R2E4_bevins: JT-Shop: how far can you run a cat5 cable from 7i74 to 7i84?
03:10 PM roycroft: i'm not a meat eater, so i'll skip the haggis
03:10 PM roycroft: although there are some vegetarian and seafood haggises now
03:10 PM roycroft: the scots are evolving :)
03:10 PM R2E4_bevins: scots dont eat meat, they drink ale.
03:15 PM roycroft: we drink uisge beatha!
03:21 PM roycroft: in fact, i may pour a wee dram in a bit so i don't feel so much like a sassenach
03:32 PM JT-Shop: R2E4_bevins: I'm not sure but be sure to use cat6 cables from the 7i74. how far do you need to go?
03:33 PM R2E4_bevins: 20 feet
03:33 PM R2E4_bevins: max
03:35 PM R2E4_bevins: the specs says Rs-422 4900 feet at 100kbit/s, not sure that you can run a 7i84 4000 ft from the 7i74...lol
03:36 PM chopper79: I thought for all 10/100/100 BaseT lines in either cat 5e or cat 6 were up to ~320-330 feet.
03:36 PM R2E4_bevins: thats for ethernet
03:36 PM chopper79: got ya
03:37 PM R2E4_bevins: rs-485 4000 ft rs-422 4900 ft
03:37 PM chopper79: that is some distance there
03:37 PM R2E4_bevins: but I am not sure if that applies to the way these boards are setup.
03:38 PM chopper79: I would think 20ft max would be fine. Not sure why it would not be as 20ft is not that hard to chew up.
03:38 PM JT-Shop: I'd think 20' is nothing to worry about but maybe pcw_home can fill in the blanks
03:38 PM chopper79: I am at 12ft with mine right now
03:40 PM R2E4_bevins: Theoretically you could run headless linuxcnc and put 7i84 boards throughout a warehouse, and run a software querying lcnc and display I/O on a gui and use it for surveillance....
03:41 PM R2E4_bevins: connect door contacts or whatever to the 7i84's have sirens with the outputs....
03:41 PM chopper79: never thought about that but yes I could see this as capable.
03:42 PM chopper79: thanks a lot..... now I am sitting here running the idea in m head on a LCNV bases security system....haha
03:42 PM chopper79: LCNC
03:43 PM SpeedEvil: With 2-axis turret, and auto-barrel-changer.
03:44 PM chopper79: setup cameras also and view them the remote gui.
03:44 PM R2E4_bevins: yeah have the turret drop down from the warehouse rafters BIG Z,
03:45 PM chopper79: So the ATC woul dneed to be changed to AMC.... automatic magazine changer
03:46 PM chopper79: or just belt feed everything
03:46 PM R2E4_bevins: yeah but at that point would need some kind of guidance system, follow the culprit throughout the warehouse.
03:47 PM chopper79: as I mentioned..... use the cam in the gui
03:47 PM R2E4_bevins: when Lcnc get fire control solution, would open fire.
03:47 PM R2E4_bevins: I can see CL handling that....
03:47 PM chopper79: Then you could use an aurdino or something for tracking the target and then sending a signal to lcnc for target lock
03:48 PM R2E4_bevins: Think we'd need some special firmware written by Andy or pcw.
03:48 PM chopper79: Well.... seems we have potentially weaponized LCNC
03:49 PM SpeedEvil: https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4758184/ - I note.
03:50 PM R2E4_bevins: Should keep this under raps, would have to serialize it....
03:50 PM SpeedEvil: This is (from memory) 25ms LASER pulses to kill mosquitos using 2W of power.
03:51 PM chopper79: nice
03:51 PM R2E4_bevins: We would need 8000 watts on our turret.
03:51 PM chopper79: Well I am off to do some other things while thinking about the last few posts.
03:52 PM R2E4_bevins: lol
04:05 PM pcw_home: R2E4_bevins: <100 feet is not an issue
04:20 PM R2E4_bevins: ok cool
04:22 PM Deejay: gn8
05:53 PM XXCoder: hmm
05:53 PM XXCoder: not too sure which pin on BOB is input for 5v
06:08 PM XXCoder: bah wish ich is in
06:18 PM JT-Shop: the red one
06:19 PM JT-Shop: what bob?
06:26 PM XXCoder: a second
06:26 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item/High-Quality-Upgraded-5-Axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-for-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Mach3-USB-Cable/32738646022.html
06:26 PM XXCoder: it passed smoke test with just 24v connected
06:27 PM XXCoder: https://www.aliexpress.com/item-img/High-Quality-Upgraded-5-Axis-CNC-Breakout-Board-for-Stepper-Motor-Driver-Mach3-USB-Cable/32738646022.html?spm=2114.10010108.1000017.2.LEMa06#
06:28 PM XXCoder: I think I see it
06:28 PM XXCoder: on bottom picture, bottom left
06:28 PM XXCoder: pc5v pcgrnd
06:28 PM XXCoder: but is it input
06:29 PM MacGalempsy: smokin cigarettes is cheaper than smokin bobs
06:29 PM XXCoder: not really
06:29 PM MacGalempsy: on a per pack basis
06:29 PM XXCoder: you might smoke one BOB at most
06:30 PM JT-Shop: it's printed on the bottom
06:30 PM XXCoder: yeah but im unclear if its 5v in or out
06:30 PM JT-Shop: but it does not say +-
06:31 PM JT-Shop: third pin is pcgnd
06:31 PM JT-Shop: pin 1 and 2 are connected together see the trace
06:31 PM XXCoder: yeah I guess its to provide more than one connector for 5v out
06:32 PM XXCoder: 12v and 5v modules is still handy to have, whenever I need those
06:33 PM JT-Shop: chili is smelling good
06:33 PM JT-Shop: got the Taranis with telemetry on the foamy now
06:34 PM _methods: foamy?
06:34 PM _methods: oh
06:34 PM _methods: foam plane
06:35 PM JT-Shop: yea twisted hobbies https://twistedhobbys.com/th-32-epp-edge-540-gh-w-hd-landing-gear/
06:36 PM XXCoder: it does have acual remote control stuff?
06:36 PM JT-Shop: aye and telemetry
06:36 PM JT-Shop: it tells me when the plane battery is low
06:37 PM XXCoder: pretty cool
06:37 PM XXCoder: its too light to have vr stuff on it lol
06:37 PM Wolf_: :)
06:37 PM JT-Shop: yea been 10-12 years since I sold my air force and ran into an old buddy from NO
06:38 PM JT-Shop: and he told me about the foamy "it's just a foamy" he said so I'm back in RC again
06:38 PM Wolf_: actually fpv gear has gotten pretty light
06:38 PM _methods: and cheap
06:38 PM JT-Shop: vr?
06:38 PM _methods: fp
06:38 PM _methods: fpv
06:38 PM _methods: cameras
06:38 PM JT-Shop: ah
06:38 PM _methods: and goggles
06:38 PM JT-Shop: yea the foamy is too light for that, the trike-it is big enough
06:39 PM _methods: or just lcd screens
06:39 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rsRDZq14YYA
06:39 PM _methods: it may not be too light for that
06:39 PM _methods: like Wolf_ was saying
06:39 PM XXCoder: like flying a plane in it, I'd like that but wow expensive
06:39 PM _methods: they can be pretty damn light now
06:40 PM _methods: http://www.banggood.com/600TVL-8_0MP-14-2_8mm-CMOS-FPV-170-Degree-Wide-Anlge-Lens-Camera-PALNTSC-p-984345.html?rmmds=search
06:40 PM _methods: http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-VTX03-Super-Mini-5_8G-72CH-025mW50mw200mW-Switchable-FPV-Transmitter-p-1114206.html?rmmds=search
06:40 PM XXCoder: dont look like can move around
06:40 PM Wolf_: http://i.imgur.com/2mA3GXJ.jpg :D
06:40 PM XXCoder: like one on video I linked to, so you move head and it follows
06:41 PM XXCoder: heh that setup and controller setup like real one, combined it'd be like real thing
06:41 PM XXCoder: only vastly cheaper
06:41 PM Wolf_: and this little thing http://i.imgur.com/yGgXJlz.jpg
06:42 PM Wolf_: depending on how fast you are going you don’t always want head tracking
06:42 PM _methods: that cam vtx combo is like 6 grams
06:42 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peFSHdwtneM no head tracking
06:43 PM XXCoder: tsk tsk guy needs to clean plane lol
06:43 PM _methods: http://www.banggood.com/Eachine-EF-02-AIO-5_8G-40CH-25MW-800TVL-VTX-13-Cmos-FPV-Camera-p-1119217.html?rmmds=search
06:43 PM _methods: that one is like 3.2 grams
06:43 PM _methods: vtx/cam combo
06:44 PM Wolf_: no head tracking https://youtu.be/p9GwPiDue8k?t=2m31s =D
06:44 PM _methods: http://imgur.com/a/S2NxF
06:45 PM _methods: little one i cut on the laser at work
06:45 PM Wolf_: nice
06:46 PM _methods: yeah it's fun
06:46 PM Wolf_: my first build, like 3 yrs ago http://i.imgur.com/SwAsaSK.jpg
06:47 PM _methods: nice gimbal and everything
06:47 PM _methods: you make the gimbal too?
06:47 PM Wolf_: first of the 250 sized mini H quads :)
06:47 PM Wolf_: yeah, just 2 mini servos
06:48 PM JT-Shop: cool
06:48 PM _methods: servo/ziptie gimbal heheh
06:49 PM _methods: http://imgur.com/a/iZZBq
06:49 PM _methods: my LOS acro quad
06:49 PM Wolf_: and then there is this http://i.imgur.com/jDR3LwU.jpg
06:49 PM Wolf_: still haven’t flown it
06:49 PM _methods: i blew up all that carbon fiber on top in crashes
06:49 PM _methods: it's got an aluminum cap now
06:49 PM _methods: dear god
06:50 PM _methods: that thing looks incredibly expensive to crash
06:50 PM Wolf_: yeah, reason I haven’t flown it lol
06:50 PM _methods: i don't blame you lol
06:50 PM _methods: especially with that giant atm machine hanging below it lol
06:50 PM Wolf_: 890mm motor to motor, 12” props, running pixhawk
06:51 PM Wolf_: should have about 35lbs of thrust
06:51 PM _methods: yeah i just like to fly stuff that won't make me cry if it doesn't make it home
06:52 PM Wolf_: my two acro quads http://i.imgur.com/xXFa2DP.jpg
06:52 PM _methods: i'll stick to my cheap little quads
06:52 PM Wolf_: big one is 9” props, 4s 2200 power
06:52 PM XXCoder: x5sw here
06:53 PM _methods: i like that frame on that little one
06:53 PM Wolf_: cheap build http://i.imgur.com/ftcGtv7.jpg lol
06:53 PM _methods: hahah
06:53 PM _methods: is that paper towel tubes
06:54 PM _methods: and pool noodle frame
06:54 PM Wolf_: shipping tubes from ordering drill rod
06:54 PM _methods: ahhhhh
06:54 PM _methods: nice
06:54 PM JT-Shop: say goodnight Gracie
06:54 PM _methods: so how'd it fly
06:55 PM Wolf_: 1/8” thick cardboard, was damn strong, flew good till I lost in it my yard lol
06:55 PM XXCoder: damn
06:55 PM XXCoder: that was crazy landng
06:56 PM Wolf_: http://i.imgur.com/AusfMWg.jpg found it a year later lol
06:56 PM XXCoder: dang
06:56 PM XXCoder: any electrics still alove?
06:57 PM Wolf_: amazingly everything still worked except the cam
06:57 PM XXCoder: you have 3d printer? maybe make frame with that lol
06:57 PM Wolf_: not strong enough
06:58 PM XXCoder: pla is quite stiff but more brittle, petg is quite strong
06:58 PM Wolf_: http://i.imgur.com/hKcwXQp.jpg
06:58 PM Wolf_: I break 4mm carbon fiber
06:58 PM _methods: hahah a year later
06:58 PM _methods: lol
06:58 PM XXCoder: what happened?
06:59 PM Wolf_: hit the football goal post at about 40mph
06:59 PM _methods: nice
06:59 PM XXCoder: what woudld surivive that? lol
06:59 PM XXCoder: Ti frame maybe
06:59 PM Wolf_: no, pretty sure that would bend as well
07:00 PM _methods: did that battery still work after a year out there?
07:00 PM XXCoder: Au? ;)
07:00 PM Wolf_: no lipo was dead as well lol
07:00 PM XXCoder: nah too heavy and soft
07:00 PM _methods: damn
07:00 PM _methods: the true crime of the event
07:00 PM Wolf_: cheap lipo
07:00 PM _methods: i cry more about losing batteries than i do about the quad
07:00 PM _methods: ah well that's good
07:01 PM Wolf_: my wing is my fav to fly tho http://i.imgur.com/Lxc1peM.jpg
07:01 PM _methods: really?
07:01 PM _methods: you prefer that over the quads?
07:01 PM _methods: or multirotors
07:02 PM Wolf_: yeah, wing is chill to fly and has about 30min flight time on the lipo
07:02 PM _methods: i've been thinking about getting one of these
07:02 PM _methods: http://www.banggood.com/Reptile-S800-SKY-SHADOW-820mm-FPV-EPP-Flying-Wing-RC-Airplane-PNP-With-FPV-System-p-1108534.html?rmmds=category
07:03 PM Wolf_: I have a 2nd bonsai wing that I’m planning to add fpv to
07:06 PM _methods: i don't know antyhing about rc planes though
07:06 PM Wolf_: CG is the only thing you need to know
07:06 PM _methods: isn't most of that taken care of in a purchased frame?
07:07 PM Wolf_: if that is off you will go nuts trying to fly it lol
07:07 PM Wolf_: yeah, but I didn’t use the recommended stuff on my wing lol
07:07 PM _methods: as long as i don't put the battery in some crazy spot or put on some whacky stuff
07:07 PM XXCoder: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lYfvT4XGB30 foamy
07:07 PM _methods: i'll do some more research i guess
07:07 PM Wolf_: I used a multi rotor motor so my CG was off badly
07:08 PM _methods: 30min flight time would be kinda cool though
07:08 PM Wolf_: http://i.imgur.com/CqnFmEJ.jpg http://i.imgur.com/avO74Yz.jpg
07:09 PM Wolf_: I’ve broke that wing in half twice lol
07:09 PM XXCoder: 20cent fix
07:09 PM Wolf_: goop + packing tape
07:21 PM MacGalempsy: CaptHindsight you around?
07:22 PM XXCoder: Wolf_: I guess 20cents is to rebalance plane?
07:23 PM Wolf_: yeah, suggested motor sticks out the back farther
08:33 PM Kevin`_ is now known as Kevin`
08:42 PM xxcodercnc: boo
08:43 PM xxcodercnc: heh havent booted linuxcnc for while.
08:44 PM xxcodercnc: update download at 120% done cool
08:44 PM xxcodercnc: 128%
08:48 PM xxcodercnc: it got to 150%+ before it failed to complete heh
08:53 PM xxcodercnc: hey MacGalempsy
08:58 PM xxcodercnc: yay update done
08:58 PM xxcodercnc: hm
08:59 PM MacGalempsy: sweet
08:59 PM xxcodercnc: is "simulated hardware configation" seperate config to test gcode as well as real, or its just simulated?
09:00 PM CaptHindsight: MacGalempsy: nope
09:04 PM xxcodercnc: BOB CLK is step?
09:23 PM MacGalempsy: awww his answering service huh?
09:25 PM MacGalempsy: CaptHindsight: been looking at ttl lasers but the max operating temps are 30c. since it would seem the cabinet temp needs to much warmer. do you thing a co2 tube laser would be better?
09:26 PM xxcodercnc: hmm its not running
09:26 PM xxcodercnc: i think i got wiring correct
09:27 PM xxcodercnc: ash yes par 1 address
09:29 PM xxcodercnc: its allllive
09:36 PM xxcodercnc: its running linuxcnc engrave
09:37 PM xxcodercnc: feel far less "bad vibrations"
09:37 PM xxcodercnc: still some but far better than i ever got with tb6600
09:37 PM xxcodercnc: er tb6560
09:43 PM MacGalempsy: you running tb6600?
09:50 PM XXCoder: tb6600s yeah
09:50 PM XXCoder: 3 of em
10:09 PM MacGalempsy: 10 on ebay is $56 pretty dang inexpensive
10:09 PM XXCoder: it is.
10:20 PM MacGalempsy: the little pololous are like 5 each without terminals or anything
10:49 PM XXCoder: I love mtmwood
10:49 PM XXCoder: he admits when he screws up