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[00:01:00] <XXCoder> yep
[01:22:23] <Jymmm> cradek: The Art of Making a Nixie Tube (38m) worth watching...
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wxL4ElboiuA
[01:22:43] <XXCoder> yep one of my favoritews
[01:59:12] <IchGucksLive> morning from a -12 C cold Germany
[02:05:32] <XXCoder> hey from on fire northwest usa
[02:07:01] <IchGucksLive> lots of tornados in the region
[02:07:10] <IchGucksLive> fake news said
[02:07:43] <XXCoder> heh well how ya
[02:16:48] <IchGucksLive> have a non bit breaking DAY
[02:38:09] <Deejay> moin
[02:44:16] <XXCoder> yo
[02:46:34] <archivist> rofl ebay £40
http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Renishaw-M2-Stylus-2mm-dia-x-20mm-/152406172216 the makers £14.30
https://www.renishaw.com/shop/Product.aspx?Product=A-5000-3603
[02:47:26] <XXCoder> not recommanded for Al apparently
[02:47:54] <archivist> even with a carbide stem it is only £37.35 new
[03:19:16] <Deejay> re
[04:16:12] <pano> Hello, cannot install on a netvista PC which was ronning windows 2000. Missing support for SIS630 chipset. How can I add these drivers? Thankyou
[04:51:24] <sync_> pano: tough luck, I remember the sis630 being not well supported
[09:32:05] <MacGalempsy> morning
[09:33:46] <archivist> 3pm you are late
[09:34:28] <MacGalempsy> good afternoon. you are just about to get off work?
[09:34:50] <archivist> I retired
[09:35:07] <MacGalempsy> oh so you are already done for the day, eh?
[09:35:11] <jdh> heh
[09:48:12] <jensor> Am I on?
[09:48:45] <MacGalempsy> off
[09:49:03] <jensor> ok
[09:58:46] <jensor> I just installed version 2.7.8 from live CD. Now my old EMC2 ini and hal files no longer work. What does the latest version require that may be missing in the old 2005 vintage EMC?
[09:59:53] <MacGalempsy> I believe there is a description in the build log
[10:01:16] <jensor> build log?
[10:01:36] <MacGalempsy> how complex is your setup? It may be easier to redo with the wizard
[10:02:12] <jensor> 3 axis parallel port driving a bridge port
[10:03:38] <Roguish> jensor:
http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/getting-started/updating-linuxcnc.html
[10:07:27] <jensor> Thanks, I'll study the upgrade info
[10:13:40] <archivist> usually need to delete one line
[10:17:21] <IchGucksLive> hi from stiff freezing Germany
[10:17:49] <IchGucksLive> jensor: unhide the probe parport
[10:21:01] <IchGucksLive> #loadrt probe_parport
[10:22:04] <MacGalempsy> IchGucksLive: that would be hide
[10:22:40] <IchGucksLive> ;-)
[10:22:56] <MacGalempsy> :)
[10:29:25] <IchGucksLive> till later
[10:36:18] <_methods> Tom_itx: Hey got an avr question for ya
[10:36:28] <_methods> Tom_itx: if you're around
[10:36:46] <_methods> well i guess anyone might be able to answer
[10:37:11] <_methods> i was flashing a mega2561 with one of those 3.3/5v chinese usbasp programmers
[10:37:20] <_methods> and i had it set on 5v
[10:37:22] <_methods> oops
[10:37:49] <_methods> can you program the 2561 at 5v?
[10:38:07] <_methods> it looks from the spec sheets like its 5v tolerant but i'm not sure
[10:38:10] <archivist> what does the datasheet say :)
[10:38:21] <_methods> i think it says 5.5v tolerant
[10:38:35] <archivist> did it die, no then yes
[10:38:39] <_methods> i'm not sure
[10:38:41] <_methods> lol
[10:38:51] <_methods> i think it's ok
[10:39:06] <archivist> I am playing with a 2560
[10:39:08] <_methods> but i was just wondering if it's 5v tolerant should i be using that instead of 3.3?
[10:39:30] <_methods> http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atmel-2549-8-bit-AVR-Microcontroller-ATmega640-1280-1281-2560-2561_datasheet.pdf
[10:39:44] <MacGalempsy> https://www.arduino.cc/en/Products/Compare
[10:40:01] <archivist> but I am being a lazy bum and getting the things on tarduino boards
[10:45:17] <_methods> http://www.atmel.com/Images/Atmel-2549-8-bit-AVR-Microcontroller-ATmega640-1280-1281-2560-2561_datasheet.pdf
[10:45:32] <_methods> so on page 353 of that it says 6.0v is max operating voltage
[10:46:11] <_methods> so i guess i'm safe at 5v
[10:46:37] <_methods> but should i be writing using the programmer at 5v vs 3.3v to make sure it's flashing right?
[10:46:39] <MacGalempsy> on that compare sheet it shows 5v and the i/o is 7-12
[10:47:29] <_methods> ok so i guess i should be programming at 5v then
[10:48:10] <_methods> might explain why sometimes it writes fine and others i have problems
[10:48:27] <_methods> i can read and set fuses fine
[10:48:45] <MacGalempsy> some od the other boards have 3.3 & 5v but not the mega2560
[10:48:45] <_methods> but when i try to load a bigger hex i get verification errors
[10:49:20] <MacGalempsy> I think the tarduino is rated up to 24v
[10:49:43] <_methods> ah no idea this is a 2561 in a circuit for a radio transmitter
[10:50:41] <MacGalempsy> oh that is tiny
[10:51:29] <MacGalempsy> ah. my bad
[10:51:32] <archivist> datasheet should give guidance for programming
[11:07:35] <OSR_Dragon> Wondering if anyone has some input on the bandwidth limitations of the 7i90HD vs the 6i24
[11:11:47] <skunkworks> 7i90hd?
[11:12:07] <skunkworks> isn't that parallel/spi?
[11:12:12] <OSR_Dragon> yes
[11:12:31] <OSR_Dragon> just trying to be a cheapskate and use the parallel port
[11:13:17] <OSR_Dragon> it's $60 vs 140
[11:14:53] <skunkworks> I see.
[11:15:10] <pcw_home> EPP connected boards are limited to 1-2 KHz max
[11:15:12] <pcw_home> PCI maybe 8 KHz on a fast PC
[11:15:14] <pcw_home> Note that 1 KHz is fine for velocity mode servos
[11:15:45] <OSR_Dragon> this will have 4 analog servo amps, plug a spindle encoder and VFD
[11:16:08] <skunkworks> running torque mode I assume
[11:16:58] <OSR_Dragon> skunkworks: yes, most likely
[11:17:04] <skunkworks> if you are not looking for super high performance - which it sounds like you are not.. 1-2 khz would probably be fine.
[11:17:46] <OSR_Dragon> I'm thinking maybe 150 IPM???
[11:18:00] <OSR_Dragon> performance is a relative thing
[11:18:18] <skunkworks> right - it isn't a 1000ipm router..
[11:18:33] <OSR_Dragon> exactly
[11:19:09] <OSR_Dragon> the travels are small enough that even going end to end won't take long at 150ipm
[11:20:29] <cyborg_ar_> hello
[11:21:22] <cyborg_ar_> I'm having a really weird issue with linuxcnc 2.7, it takes a really long time to start and mode changes (from manual to MDI or AUTO mode take a long time too and sometimes get stuck)
[11:21:35] <cyborg_ar_> it seemed to start happening out of nowhere
[11:22:07] <cyborg_ar_> i've looked with top and it doesnt seem to be a CPU usage issue
[11:22:22] <cyborg_ar_> is there anything else i could probe to see what's getting stuck?
[11:23:47] <OSR_Dragon> in top, are there processes that are waiting for i/o?
[11:24:35] <cyborg_ar_> let me check, i am not very used to plain top, how do you filter for that?
[11:24:47] <OSR_Dragon> in the cpu row, look for the field labeled wa
[11:25:08] <OSR_Dragon> for a start anyway
[11:25:26] <OSR_Dragon> and you can press "1" to expand the cpu cores out so that you can see each one
[11:27:21] <cyborg_ar_> ok i just tested starting linuxcnc, pressing the machine power button and switching modes
[11:27:34] <cyborg_ar_> in all cases cpu was 80-90% idle. 0% wait
[11:28:00] <cyborg_ar_> still axis was frozen for over 10 seconds on each operation
[11:29:12] <OSR_Dragon> how long has the system been up? (I have run into issues with this)
[11:30:49] <OSR_Dragon> cyborg_ar_: try a 'free -m' to see if you are hitting a swap file
[11:31:10] <cyborg_ar_> i rebooted it 30 minutes ago, i also just checked, pressing the power button multiple times makes the UI be responsive again
[11:31:19] <cyborg_ar_> i do not have swap
[11:31:47] <cyborg_ar_> the machine is ssd so i decided against a swap partition, there is plenty of free RAM
[11:32:12] <cyborg_ar_> total memory is 3.5 gigs (4 total, but half a gig is eaten by the onboard video)
[11:32:35] <cyborg_ar_> linuxcnc and xfce are the only things running
[11:32:56] <OSR_Dragon> this feels like a power saving/sleep issue to me... possibly at the hardware level
[11:33:28] <OSR_Dragon> What kind of bus does your interface use? (parallel, pci, etc.)
[11:34:52] <roycroft> hi folks
[11:35:04] <roycroft> i'm still evaluating joysticks vs. a spinny wheel for manual jogging
[11:35:12] <cyborg_ar_> onboard parallel and pcie parallel
[11:35:20] <cyborg_ar_> and you just gave me an idea
[11:35:27] <cyborg_ar_> let me try removing the pcie parallel board
[11:35:28] <roycroft> i saw a reference to a mesa board that is used with mpgs
[11:35:33] <roycroft> but i'm not sure which one folks use
[11:35:42] <roycroft> any insights on that would be appreciated
[11:35:49] <OSR_Dragon> cyborg_ar_: you owe me one back then... hope it was a good one ;P
[11:36:12] <roycroft> also, i see some control panels have a switch for the mpg to change between rapid, 10 steps, and single step modes
[11:36:37] <OSR_Dragon> roycroft: I haven't used a joystick, but I am in love with the cheapy chinese handwheel encoder I played with this week
[11:36:55] <roycroft> is that something that's handled by the mesa encoder boards?
[11:37:20] <roycroft> that, i suppose, is the third question
[11:37:49] <OSR_Dragon> roycroft: there are two ways that you can do that... different i/o pins for the diferent modes, using a plain old rotary switch
[11:37:55] <roycroft> how do the sub-$20 chinese mpgs compare with the $75+ ones that may or may not be chinese
[11:37:56] <roycroft> ?
[11:38:21] <OSR_Dragon> or what I like is a 4 bit rotary encoder as it gives you more selections with less i/o pins used
[11:38:32] <OSR_Dragon> either way the scaling is done in software
[11:38:36] <roycroft> ok
[11:38:57] <roycroft> i'm at a point where i need to start taking inventory of i/o pins
[11:39:03] <roycroft> they're adding up quickly
[11:39:28] <OSR_Dragon> that happens to everyone I think
[11:39:33] <roycroft> yes, i'm sure it does
[11:39:54] <roycroft> i just got my mesa interface card, and a single daughter board
[11:40:02] <roycroft> i know already i need a second daughter board
[11:40:32] <roycroft> unfortunately the computer i'm using has only a sigle pci slot, so i could not add a second mesa card
[11:40:42] <roycroft> i'll have to live with the one card and two daughter boards
[11:41:14] <roycroft> although, with the low latency of the computer, i could probably use the built-in parallel port for some i/o
[11:41:17] <roycroft> if need be
[11:43:05] <OSR_Dragon> my understanding is that if you put one of those mpg wheels on a parallel port you can overrun the data rate and loose counts but it's not that big of a deal
[11:43:51] <OSR_Dragon> you could use an encoder counter in the mesa for the mpg and put the scaling switches on the parallel port
[11:44:46] <roycroft> for manual jogging that would defintely not be a big deal
[11:45:26] <OSR_Dragon> I think that is what most people find
[11:45:30] <cyborg_ar_> OSR_Dragon: the board might have gotten ESD damage, one of the inputs was stuck high, if it's also causing the slowness it will be a weight off my back
[11:45:44] <cyborg_ar_> problems started after the machine was physically moved
[11:46:02] <cyborg_ar_> but i couldnt see any plausible hardware explanation
[11:46:11] <OSR_Dragon> ah... I would definitely reseat any cards as well as the RAM in that case
[11:46:42] <OSR_Dragon> poorly seated ram can cause strange things like this in my experience
[11:47:35] <OSR_Dragon> the ram you can usually just jiggle a bit instead of actually pulling and re-inserting
[12:22:30] <cyborg_ar_> yup removing the card "fixes" the issue, putting it back makes it go bad again
[12:22:33] <cyborg_ar_> time for a new card
[12:24:35] <OSR_Dragon> cyborg_ar_: glad you found it
[12:27:26] <IchGucksLive> hi ;-)
[12:29:34] <IchGucksLive> MacGalempsy: he dident react on the hiding thing or did he
[12:32:08] <skunkworks> cyborg_ar_, looks like you have found it - but hard drives failing cause funny issues like that.
[12:35:33] <IchGucksLive> large EM also does put outsutch issues
[12:36:06] <IchGucksLive> pcw_home: did somone report a test on plasma at parport 7i92 direct
[13:04:40] <t12_> http://www.gutenberg.org/files/26184/page-images/26184-images.pdf?session_id=63356cc1361426b54e452217c7b55be26e3d7a5c
[13:04:47] <t12_> lolling at this sabotage manual
[13:04:53] <t12_> which is more or less a list of bad industrial practices
[13:05:34] <OSR_Dragon> nothing like sabotaging yourself
[13:07:31] <MacGalempsy> IchGucksLivejust got back from a walk. I dont think he did.
[13:13:57] <IchGucksLive> ;-) iver been stopping also on the way home in the forest the chipping man where there with the NEW BIVER
[13:14:09] <IchGucksLive> and a BIG MF
[13:14:22] <IchGucksLive> 8660 Dyno VT
[13:15:12] <IchGucksLive> MacGalempsy: google picture "biber92
[13:15:35] <MacGalempsy> that is big.
[13:15:54] <MacGalempsy> is that your machine?
[13:16:24] <MacGalempsy> looks big enough to chip a body
[13:16:50] <IchGucksLive> this one here
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=peWlQCoFO20
[13:17:03] <IchGucksLive> uploaded from the driver himself
[13:18:21] <MacGalempsy> cool video. so you stop and talk with him?
[13:19:09] <IchGucksLive> yes i did see the MF and i know from Biofuel harvest he is the onlyone that owes this here in the 200mil radius
[13:19:12] <IchGucksLive> so i stopped
[13:20:29] <IchGucksLive> i also took a 5min seat in the big combi and felt the power
[13:20:44] <IchGucksLive> got a cool shaking
[13:20:58] <IchGucksLive> in the overheaded drivers place
[13:21:28] <MacGalempsy> nice
[13:22:35] <MacGalempsy> so you want to own one now?
[13:22:57] <IchGucksLive> no
[13:23:11] <IchGucksLive> we got FAhrDeutz CASE and MCCormic
[13:24:40] <IchGucksLive> MacGalempsy:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f_PslBNAT7s
[13:25:03] <IchGucksLive> as ive been off for a while the Videos are newer then mine
[13:25:36] <IchGucksLive> this is the last harvest i made
[13:25:39] <IchGucksLive> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AkJmIwPsIz0
[13:26:16] <IchGucksLive> Video is also from me
[13:27:46] <MacGalempsy> so you are a corn farmer?
[13:28:20] <IchGucksLive> no far away from
[13:28:29] <IchGucksLive> logistik
[13:28:48] <IchGucksLive> is my main goal at that event
[13:29:05] <IchGucksLive> coordination of the systems
[13:29:37] <IchGucksLive> 500 acars 12 Driver 2 harvesters ....
[13:30:01] <IchGucksLive> lots f funn
[13:30:13] <IchGucksLive> ok im off Gn8
[13:30:18] <MacGalempsy> bye
[14:27:34] <JT-Shop> I wonder if using a stepgen in velocity mode to hijack the Z for THC would be better than the current thc comp?
[15:08:52] <cyborg_ar_> :( having trouble with the new parallel port card
[15:09:28] <cyborg_ar_> linuxcnc seems to detect and load it fine, but the inputs and outputs dont work
[15:09:46] <cyborg_ar_> lspci -v says [disabled] beside the port numbers
[15:09:58] <jdh> so you have more than one?
[15:10:41] <cyborg_ar_> the chipset is the MCS9901, but lcpci reports 9912
[15:11:07] <cyborg_ar_> i replaced a broken board, i am also using the onboard parallel port, that one works ok
[15:11:16] <jdh> anything flagged in dmesg?
[15:11:43] <cyborg_ar_> i thought the new card had a different port address but lspci says the same
[15:12:07] <cyborg_ar_> let me have another look at dmesg, i didnt see anything, but maybe it said something at boot
[15:17:19] <cyborg_ar_> ok relevant line is: parport1: PC-style at 0xe010 (0xe000), irq 26 [PCSPP, TRISTATE]
[15:17:42] <cyborg_ar_> the .hal file says loadrt parport "0x378 0xe010"
[15:17:51] <cyborg_ar_> err loadrt hal_parport
[15:17:56] <cyborg_ar_> i mean
[15:18:05] <cyborg_ar_> no errors on dmesg
[15:19:03] <cyborg_ar_> linucnc starts without errors but all the inputs return TRUE, and the outputs dont work
[15:21:45] <skunkworks> cyborg_ar_, do you have the corisponding functions added? I would think you would need parport.1.read and write function added to the base thread
[15:22:02] <cyborg_ar_> oh yes those are there
[15:22:32] <cyborg_ar_> i used to have a different parallel card as parport1 but it broke
[15:22:35] <cyborg_ar_> so i replaced it
[15:23:06] <cyborg_ar_> i was expecting to have to change the address but according to lspci and dmesg it seems like it's the same
[15:23:45] <jdh> what broke?
[15:39:41] <cyborg_ar_> an input broke
[15:39:53] <cyborg_ar_> also it seemed to be making the computer slow too
[16:07:33] <XXCoder> spindle arrived
[16:11:51] <cyborg_ar_> damn could it be that the MCS9901 just doesnt work under linuxcnc?
[16:12:04] <JT-Shop2> XXCoder: cool
[16:13:19] <Tom_itx> what's up?
[16:13:28] <XXCoder> me
[16:13:33] <XXCoder> im awake
[16:18:02] <Deejay> gn8
[16:43:52] <JT-Shop2> XXCoder: got it running yet?
[17:42:01] <JT-Shop2> 44 bats of itch on the floor
[18:20:31] <elmo40> Hi blokes. I'm contemplating on purchasing an EMCO F1 Mill. The current owner has converted it to Mach3. Would it be all that difficult to replace it with LinuxCNC?
[18:21:00] <JT-Shop2> much easier than getting mark3 to work
[18:39:47] <elmo40> I figure most of the difficult parts are already done for me ;)
[18:40:17] <elmo40> now, time to check what he used and how well it was setup. upgrade what needs to be upgraded (hardware side) and go from there
[18:40:32] <elmo40> I'd like to get a probe working. that would be ideal.
[18:41:19] <skunkworks_> do you know what is controlling it>
[18:41:32] <skunkworks_> * what the drives are and such
[18:41:58] <elmo40> I have no idea. I hope to view the machine this weekend or early next week.
[18:43:05] <elmo40> I've been through many linuxcnc forums and found out that there is no easy way to add an encorder to the spindle. I guess I'll have to use a tapping head.
[18:43:33] <elmo40> I want to add a 4th axis, too :)
[18:43:45] <elmo40> it is a small machine but I want to make it mighty.
[18:44:57] <Jymmm> elmo40: viagra?
[19:01:21] <elmo40> every chance I can
[19:02:29] <sync_> archivist: you don't happen to have a manual for a hilger watts microptic autocollimator?
[19:52:21] <elmo40> If this guy bought gecko boards, should I change them out?
[19:53:37] <malcom2073> gecko stepper drivers are pretty good
[19:53:50] <malcom2073> If it's servo, I have no experience with them, but I'd assume they're good too
[19:55:58] <Jymmm> elmo40: which geckos?
[19:56:33] <os1r1s> elmo40 Those mills typically have their own controller and custom drivers.
[19:57:07] <os1r1s> elmo40 And usually present a parallel port that you can easily interface to linuxcnc
[19:57:20] <Jymmm> elmo40: Gecks are good drives
[19:57:47] <Jymmm> elmo40: Mariss is a smart guy and very easy to talk with
[19:58:23] <elmo40> I will see the machine possibly this weekend. I don't know what is in it right now
[19:58:52] <Jymmm> elmo40: And yes, you CAN use gecko drives with lcnc or pretty much anything
[19:59:32] <Jymmm> elmo40: If the controller is "Windows/MAch Only", you can change it out if needed while still using the geckos
[20:00:17] <elmo40> can't wait to test this thing out!
[20:00:38] <Jymmm> elmo40: bring extra panties with ya ;)
[20:01:04] <Jymmm> you sound like you're gonna need em =)
[20:01:14] <elmo40> don't know if you remember me from back in '05 days... but my first build was a 2" iron pipe mill ;)
[20:01:35] <Jymmm> Good luck
[20:01:46] <elmo40> wood router and laser burner. it was sweet.
[20:02:57] <elmo40> now, new home, garage with much more space, time for a better setup
[20:04:55] <MacGalempsy> Jymmm: get everything cleaned up?
[20:04:58] <elmo40> did the forum get wiped in 2010? I thought I signed up before then...
[20:14:26] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: Nothing to "clean up", I've ALWAYS kept things at least 4" off the ground. But There are yard tools that touch the ground, just have to see how rusted they might be later. Just annoying as hell if I ever did place something on the gound without realizing it.
[20:15:16] <MacGalempsy> sounds like minimal casualties
[20:15:45] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: Glad I do too... One time had the toilet back up, had it snaked, and it flooded the garage with raw sewage... that was fun... NOT!
[20:16:56] <Jymmm> Yeah, I just cant see what/if any damage might be cause to the wall/studs
[20:17:47] <Jymmm> That's my bigest gripe. stuff can be dried/replaced, but structural repairs can be time consuming and costly.
[20:18:08] <Jymmm> and mold.
[20:18:24] <MacGalempsy> mold is what is the worst
[20:18:38] <Jymmm> Well, I have bleach, but...
[20:19:15] <Jymmm> and a 1gal sprayer specifically for such purpose.... 1/3 bleach, 2/3 water, pump, spray
[20:21:10] <MacGalempsy> maybe run a fan in there a few days to dehumidify?
[20:21:25] <Jymmm> it's snowing =)
[20:23:29] <MacGalempsy> does the cold dehumidify?
[20:24:53] <os1r1s> Jymmm The stock F1 doesn't need mach3. It can be used with linuxcnc
[20:24:58] <os1r1s> But of course, geckos can too
[20:26:32] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: nfc =)
[20:26:44] <Jymmm> os1r1s: I have no clue what he has
[20:27:19] <os1r1s> Jymmm He opened with this ... elmo40: Hi blokes. I'm contemplating on purchasing an EMCO F1 Mill.
[20:27:53] <Jymmm> os1r1s: Ah, still no clue ;)
[20:28:00] <Jymmm> but ty anyway
[20:28:12] <os1r1s> They are a bit like the Emco compact lathes
[20:28:26] <os1r1s> Just a mill form
[20:29:01] <Jymmm> os1r1s: Boeing 747, 30,000 feet and climbing - over my head ;)
[20:29:08] <os1r1s> No worries :)
[20:46:55] <MacGalempsy> Jymmm how far north are you?
[20:49:15] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: Nor Cal
[20:50:22] <MacGalempsy> Did u get hammered by the big one?
[20:50:34] <MacGalempsy> storm that is
[20:51:00] <Jymmm> Not as much as other areas did, thankfully
[21:06:35] <CaptHindsight> toilet storm?
[21:07:59] <CaptHindsight> how likely is a customer to order $k's worth of something if they get anal about a $10 shipping charge?
[21:08:21] <gregcnc> yeah you dont' need that kind fo customer
[21:08:31] <CaptHindsight> heh
[21:08:37] <gregcnc> wtf my typing
[21:09:21] <gregcnc> well at least you know not to give them an inch, because you know what's next
[21:09:53] <BeachBumPete> Zlog
[21:10:01] <BeachBumPete> ;)
[21:10:01] <CaptHindsight> you show up the next day and your feet are gone
[21:10:51] <gregcnc> I had a guy ask me to step outside and fight him over company policy once
[21:11:12] <CaptHindsight> was it at a law firm?
[21:11:23] <CaptHindsight> real mature
[21:11:45] <CaptHindsight> hey it worked in jr high
[21:11:58] <gregcnc> we sold toys for almost grown men
[21:12:14] <t12> mutual combat is usually only a misdemeanor!
[21:12:18] <CaptHindsight> well maybe physically near grown
[21:12:25] <gregcnc> he was probably retired and I was maybe 22
[21:12:34] <t12> if two people get in a fistfight they both agree on, unless someone gets really hurt, nobody seems to care
[21:12:37] <t12> from what i've seen
[21:12:54] <BeachBumPete> yeah just don't beat em too bad ;)
[21:13:00] <CaptHindsight> disorderly conduct
[21:13:13] <CaptHindsight> generic for anything they feel like
[21:13:43] <gregcnc> was my most bizarre experience there
[21:14:21] <gregcnc> got to go
[21:14:24] <CaptHindsight> most of the crap I run into is generally due to immaturity or selfishness/arrogance
[21:15:37] <t12> ever proceed with that inkjet/dna stuf
[21:16:18] <CaptHindsight> t12: yeah
[21:16:35] <BeachBumPete> jeez man I am either getting Oldstimers here or it has been WAY too long since I used my CAM software LOL
[21:16:53] <CaptHindsight> nanopores of sequencing as well
[21:17:03] <t12> nice
[21:17:06] <CaptHindsight> of/for
[21:17:09] <t12> an old coworker used to work on those
[21:18:06] <CaptHindsight> t12: we should be able to go from blood test to custom virus or gene in a day
[21:18:31] <CaptHindsight> waiting to see if they get CRISPR working well on humans
[21:18:46] <t12> in numbers or counting the associated wetbench
[21:20:14] <CaptHindsight> few parts short tonight, off to the store, bbl
[21:26:09] <MacGalempsy> Cash me ouside, how bow dah?
[21:26:40] <MacGalempsy> meme joke
[21:52:25] <MacGalempsy> BeachBumPete any plans on doing any snake hunting down in FL?
[21:53:14] <BeachBumPete> huh?
[22:01:56] <MacGalempsy> lik3
[22:02:01] <MacGalempsy> pythons
[23:15:32] <yasnak> beachbum, i'm over on the other side of the coast. i've been doing a bit of hog hunting if that interests you ;)
[23:15:44] <yasnak> and no, not talking about the women