#linuxcnc | Logs for 2017-01-21

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[01:12:00] <Gene_home> Yo! Stop your grinnin anddrop your linen
[01:18:32] <Gene_home> I will be making some stepper mounts etc and am looking for guidance on what type of aluminum to purchase
[02:28:09] <pink_vampire> Gene_home: ?
[02:28:43] <pink_vampire> are you still here Gene_home?
[02:31:05] <Deejay> moin
[02:32:08] <pink_vampire> 6061 is a general type one, but I like the 2024-t3 over the 6061, it a bit lighter and stiffer and cut very nicely, BUT if do you want to anodize the part 2024 is not very good for that, and 6061 will be much better for anodizing.
[02:32:13] <pink_vampire> hi Deejay
[02:35:07] <Deejay> hi pink_vampire
[02:35:17] <pink_vampire> hi
[02:35:21] <pink_vampire> how are you
[02:52:17] <Gene_home> many thanks!
[02:53:40] <Gene_home> I've never seen a pink vampire...
[02:54:18] <Gene_home> maybe blood overdose
[02:54:50] <Gene_home> afk
[03:33:23] <SpeedEvil> https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/?term=strawberry+pink+blood
[03:58:03] <Gene_home> interesting
[04:53:49] <XXCoder> yo
[05:07:13] <jthornton> morning
[05:08:06] <XXCoder> whats up
[05:10:47] <jthornton> waiting on coffee
[05:11:03] <XXCoder> fancy
[05:11:38] <jthornton> firing off a double batch of elderberry wine today
[05:14:00] <XXCoder> you smell like elderberries :P
[05:14:08] <XXCoder> kidding no idea how they smell like
[05:15:08] <jthornton> never squeeze the elderberries
[05:15:33] <XXCoder> expecially if it come in pairs in a bag
[05:16:42] <jthornton> they make green scum if you squeeze them
[05:17:08] <XXCoder> ew linking direct from my joke that makes it really gross :P
[05:18:08] <jthornton> learned that the first time I made elderberry wine... what a nasty mess that was
[05:18:25] <XXCoder> how do you make wine if no sequeezy
[05:18:58] <jthornton> you just pour 2 gallons of boiling hot water over them
[05:19:08] <jthornton> put them in a pillow case first
[05:19:32] <jthornton> then just let them drain
[05:20:12] <jthornton> here is the best part you take the same sack o berries and pour 2 more gallons of hot water over them in a new bucket and make a blush
[05:20:44] <XXCoder> first bucket is thrown away?
[05:20:54] <jthornton> first bucket makes a red
[05:23:52] <XXCoder> red wine?
[05:23:59] <jthornton> yea
[05:24:08] <XXCoder> and whats blush?
[05:24:22] <jthornton> a light red wine
[05:24:35] <XXCoder> very strange
[05:24:37] <XXCoder> almost like tea
[05:34:48] <jthornton> only thing I know about tea is capt picard drank earl grey
[05:36:47] <XXCoder> well basically tea you soak stuff in hot water
[05:36:55] <XXCoder> and stuff comes off it and you drink it
[05:58:07] <jthornton> I learned that frozen orange juice does not stay fresh forever...
[05:58:16] <XXCoder> nope
[05:58:24] <XXCoder> they make zombie juice that will last long time
[05:58:30] <XXCoder> perfectly oxygen-free
[05:58:44] <XXCoder> they reconsitate and use colorants to get that orange color back
[05:58:59] <XXCoder> thats why we have orange year around.
[06:29:40] <XXCoder> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5GSHXC6fwq4
[06:29:48] <XXCoder> its to be controlled using arudino cool
[06:36:51] <jthornton> I love watching myfordboy videos
[06:37:16] <XXCoder> yep so good
[06:38:02] <jthornton> hmm that is a new one, I only have up to 62
[06:40:03] <XXCoder> I get email notification from all channels
[06:40:19] <XXCoder> because youtube sorts and summry email only lists "popular" videos.
[06:46:48] <jthornton> I was hoping to cast some aluminum parts this winter but I don't know if I'll have time to scrap the metal
[06:47:22] <XXCoder> I want to try my hand in casting but I just dont have willpower, and this location is wrong for it.
[06:47:52] <jthornton> I have the furnace and burner done
[06:48:23] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/casting/
[06:48:55] <XXCoder> nice
[06:49:06] <XXCoder> if I ever do it, it'll be with kiln
[07:26:55] <jthornton> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8fpzNK3d0rs
[07:57:16] <XXCoder> looking
[07:57:21] <XXCoder> while looking, http://cdn-static.denofgeek.com/sites/denofgeek/files/styles/article_width/public/no-you.jpg?itok=ojpaqq1Y heh
[07:57:49] <XXCoder> wow that predates my sub of myfordboy
[07:57:52] <XXCoder> jthornton:
[08:06:39] <XXCoder> funny how crude it is before he made new one
[08:09:28] <XXCoder> jthornton: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nPyRT7eQhu0 interesting
[08:13:37] <malcom2073> Heh wow, lawnmower man
[08:13:40] <malcom2073> haven't seen that in forever
[08:13:55] <XXCoder> yeah and SUPPPPER dated
[08:14:06] <XXCoder> some movies is ageless. that one are not.
[08:15:01] <jthornton> too long for me to watch only 15 minutes left on free time
[08:15:15] <XXCoder> good so far, save for later watch
[08:15:25] <XXCoder> small casting scale
[08:16:46] <jthornton> says I can download it in 9 minutes lol
[08:18:34] <malcom2073> Heh random tidbit: The graphics for lawnmower man were created by the company that became rockstar games (Grand-theft auto folks)
[08:18:48] <XXCoder> really? lol
[08:19:06] <malcom2073> According to wikipedia
[08:19:35] <XXCoder> im so making one into kindle pw2 screensaver picture
[08:19:39] <XXCoder> http://www.roadtovr.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/07/lawnmowerman.jpg
[09:26:11] <maxiter> can linuxcnc work with a 32-bit Debian/Ubuntu in a PC with 64-bit CPU?
[09:26:43] <Tom_L> why not?
[09:30:15] <maxiter> thanks for the reply. Latency time will not suffer, I gess?
[09:30:27] <Tom_L> test it
[09:32:19] <maxiter> ok, I have to buy an old 64-bit PC from eBay.
[09:45:24] <enleth> is there a pin defined in motion that basically says "hold on, the spindle is not turning when it should be"? not "spindle up to speed", just "motor not getting power"
[09:45:59] <enleth> I can whip it up with ladder logic I guess, triggering an e-stop or something, but maybe there's a better way
[09:51:24] <enleth> nah, there doesn't seem to be
[10:09:19] <IchGucksLive> hi
[10:10:14] <IchGucksLive> maxiter: dont spent to mutch on a old one
[10:12:17] <MarkusBec> enleth: add a timer
[10:12:37] <MarkusBec> if motor is on start timer for the time the spindle needs to speedup
[10:12:45] <MarkusBec> and set the signal
[10:13:27] <MarkusBec> malcom2073: Old PCs are waste of time
[10:14:38] <IchGucksLive> MarkusBec: Enlat there is a better way with near
[10:15:13] <IchGucksLive> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/examples/spindle.html#_spindle_soft_start
[10:16:37] <MarkusBec> with thet you need a encoder
[10:16:52] <enleth> I'd rather do that with ladder logic, static numbering of hal logic components gets on my nerves
[10:21:53] <IchGucksLive> up to you
[10:22:15] <Frank_6> hello, could someone please direct me where to look info for a servo input output pins for linuxcnc, for example alarm input, alarm clear output, servo ready input; etc. thanks
[10:25:41] <IchGucksLive> im a stepper man c for good reasons
[10:27:30] <MacGalempsy> Good morning
[10:27:36] <MacGalempsy> Frank_6: try here http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man1/halui.1.html
[10:27:48] <Frank_6> thankyou
[10:34:21] <MacGalempsy> if you cannot find what you need in halui, you can try skimming through some of the other components
[10:37:00] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: do you mount the led right on the surface of the heatsink, or do you cut a pocket?
[10:39:22] <malcom2073> Mac; just on the surface
[10:39:37] <Frank_6> what should i be looking for? a halui ping that will clear my servo status (which i couldnt find) a command to stop motion until "alarm"/"x" pin doesnt trigger an input?
[10:39:43] <MacGalempsy> thank cuts down the operations a bit
[10:39:50] <MacGalempsy> thank = that
[10:39:58] <Frank_6> ping=pin
[10:40:14] <malcom2073> Yep
[10:40:56] <MacGalempsy> for the reset, you may just try a pyvcp button and for the fault indicator use a pyvcp led
[10:43:03] <MacGalempsy> servo ready would probably link to enable axis on your controller card?
[10:43:28] <Frank_6> is there a component/command that will stop/pause the program just like an Estop but without stoping the servo enable?
[10:43:39] <Frank_6> servo ready would be a lcnc input in my case
[10:43:45] <MacGalempsy> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/man/man9/axis.9.html
[10:43:52] <Frank_6> making lcnc know that servos are ready to work
[10:44:04] <MacGalempsy> check out axis.N.amp-enable-out
[10:44:15] <MacGalempsy> axis.N.amp-fault-in
[10:45:17] <Frank_6> yes, thank you very much, ill keep reading the page
[10:45:20] <MacGalempsy> Frank_6: If you cannot find what you are looking for in those, check out this page and go through the Realtime components and kernel modules secton (expandable) http://linuxcnc.org/docs/htm
[10:45:55] <Frank_6> cool, will do
[10:46:51] <Frank_6> i just need servo ready, enable, alarm, alarm clear(reset). are these "normal" pins to work with?
[11:00:08] <MacGalempsy> yeah those are pretty standard pins to work with.
[11:03:59] <MacGalempsy> if you havent noticed yet, there are several ways to go about somethings in linuxcnc, so a little trial and error will help a lot
[11:24:58] <JT-Shop> MacGalempsy: did you get the address?
[11:25:03] <MacGalempsy> nope
[11:25:34] <Tom_L> log
[11:25:35] <MacGalempsy> just standing by. since you said he was moving, I figured there are more important things on his mind
[11:25:45] <c-log> Tom_L: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2017-01-21.html
[11:25:46] <Tom_L> zlog
[11:26:03] <Tom_L> why did 'log' not work?
[11:26:35] <Loetmichel> it did
[11:26:47] <Loetmichel> [17:56] <Tom_L> log
[11:26:48] <Loetmichel> [17:56] <MacGalempsy> just standing by. since you said he was moving, I figured there are more important things on his mind
[11:26:48] <Loetmichel> [17:56] <c-log> Tom_L: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2017-01-21.html
[11:27:16] <Tom_L> lag here indicated zlog triggered it
[11:27:41] <Loetmichel> here it is below that
[11:27:55] <JT-Shop> log
[11:27:55] <c-log> JT-Shop: Today's Log http://tom-itx.no-ip.biz:82/~tom-itx/irc/logs/%23linuxcnc/2017-01-21.html
[11:28:00] <Loetmichel> see?
[11:28:02] <JT-Shop> :)
[11:28:04] <Tom_L> branch
[11:28:06] <Tom_L> twig
[11:28:10] <JT-Shop> lol
[11:28:19] <JT-Shop> I can add that...
[11:28:24] <Tom_L> :)
[11:28:28] <JT-Shop> did you get the latest update?
[11:28:33] <Tom_L> no
[11:28:53] <JT-Shop> it fixes the extra / in links
[11:29:07] <Tom_L> ok
[11:30:27] <archivist> over optimistic seller http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/152404324610?ul_noapp=true
[11:34:22] <Tom_L> now i did
[11:37:57] <Tom_L> JT-Shop, get all your itch hung?
[11:38:38] <JT-Shop> have to finish wiring the west side of the shop before covering up the boxes on top of the top plate
[11:50:29] <tr01> Hi there! I need a bit help! I have a CNC mill/router controlled by LinuxCNC via parallel port and want to use it as a 3D printer/RepStrap. I've done a bit of research and found the wiki page (http://reprap.org/wiki/EMCRepRap) and Sam's Github repo (https://github.com/sam0737/hrepstrap). The problem with hrepstrap is that it doesnt support stepper for filament infeed, only PID notors. I dont really know how to use the C
[11:50:31] <JT-Shop> hope to get back to the itch tomorrow
[11:50:31] <tr01> NC as 3d printer. Can you help me?
[11:50:44] * JT-Shop wanders inside for a nap
[11:56:00] <tommylight> whats up? or down?
[11:58:07] <MacGalempsy> the sun?
[11:58:47] <tommylight> havent seen it recently
[11:58:55] <tommylight> to damn cold here
[11:58:58] <MacGalempsy> working graves huh?
[11:59:01] <MacGalempsy> oh, where are you?
[11:59:22] <tommylight> was working till 10 minutes ago
[11:59:27] <tommylight> in Kosovo
[11:59:38] <tommylight> eastern europe
[12:00:30] <tr01> Is anyone able to help me? :)
[12:00:59] <MacGalempsy> how?
[12:04:38] <IchGucksLive> tr01: yust usk
[12:04:48] <IchGucksLive> sorry
[12:05:11] <tr01> IchGucksLive: usk?
[12:05:36] <IchGucksLive> is there a stepper that controls the filament move
[12:07:10] <tr01> Depends on your extruder. Usually there is a stepper. But the hrepstrap is quite old, maybe at that time commonly PID controlled motors where used
[12:09:32] <MacGalempsy> I believe you will need to setup your extruder as an A axis, then syncronize the movement between the E and A on your stepper
[12:09:37] <IchGucksLive> where are you in the world im in Germany for Language to use
[12:13:12] <IchGucksLive> tr01: https://www.3dprintforums.com/showthread.php/83-Converted-a-mill-to-3d-printing-let-see/page2
[12:14:16] <tr01> IchGucksLive: Im German also
[12:14:35] <IchGucksLive> hit my nickname double
[12:15:40] <tommylight> Copy paste???
[12:39:09] <Frank_6> guys, what the hell should i put on step on time/ step space etc on pncconf with a servo step/dir system? i've looked up in the forum and nothing, there are a couple of threads on the mailing list but nothing concrete on how to get this numbers
[12:41:37] <MacGalempsy> Frank_6: I have never used steppers, but here is a video that is a walkthru on pncconf https://youtu.be/zUsxGIFtKLI
[12:41:49] <MarkusBec> the values out of the datasheed of your drive
[12:42:57] <MarkusBec> step/dir time and space are values depending on the HW you are using
[12:44:20] <Frank_6> my drive doesnt specify does values, the only value i could find (that i cant translate to the ones i need) is the minimum required time, in us between steps which is 1, 1 us
[12:45:14] <MarkusBec> you can searche vor the actual driver IC
[12:45:18] <MarkusBec> that is used
[12:45:44] <Frank_6> its not a very common driver
[12:45:48] <Frank_6> panasonic
[12:45:54] <MarkusBec> https://www.google.de/url?sa=t&rct=j&q=&esrc=s&source=web&cd=&ved=0ahUKEwjMqt2g7NPRAhWEOxoKHXGxB4AQFggnMAE&url=https%3A%2F%2Ftoshiba.semicon-storage.com%2Finfo%2Fdocget.jsp%3Fdid%3D14683%26prodName%3DTB6600HG&usg=AFQjCNHjw8OlAH3934-JBmtyZFN4dbqEyA&sig2=z0KvCdm3Pa65JqYZ_xeq4Q
[12:46:04] <MarkusBec> try the values of the toschiba
[12:46:51] <MarkusBec> and try if the drive skips steps
[12:47:03] <MarkusBec> increase the timing
[12:47:26] <MarkusBec> hm decrease?
[12:47:30] <MarkusBec> slower :)
[12:48:19] <Frank_6> im checking that manual, still havent found anything
[12:48:43] <Frank_6> its a stepper driver thou
[12:51:33] <MarkusBec> test 1.1µS for all values
[12:52:59] <Frank_6> yeah i will 1us and play from there
[13:26:19] <malcom2073> Man, I need a CNC lathe
[13:26:25] <malcom2073> this manual lathe business is for the brids
[13:26:26] <malcom2073> birds*
[13:27:53] <gregcnc> it's not that hard
[13:28:32] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: you have a manual lathe?
[13:28:39] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: Yeah
[13:28:50] <MacGalempsy> cool. can you do a stepper retrofit?
[13:28:59] <malcom2073> I'd have to refit with ballscrews
[13:29:10] <MacGalempsy> why?
[13:29:15] <malcom2073> Because backlash
[13:29:23] <MacGalempsy> linuxcnc can compensate for that
[13:30:00] <malcom2073> If the hardware is shit, you can't expect the computer to turn it into gold
[13:30:15] <MacGalempsy> i guess is just depends on your tolerance needs
[13:30:15] <gregcnc> my cross slide is at ~.050 backlash
[13:30:36] <malcom2073> My time would be better spent finding a proper cnc lathe, and doing a retrofit on that
[13:30:52] <gregcnc> why not just find a proper CNC and use it?
[13:31:07] <MacGalempsy> there was that sweet south bend on ebay
[13:31:10] <MacGalempsy> only 1500
[13:31:10] <malcom2073> Because that kind of thing is out of my price range :-P
[13:31:14] <MacGalempsy> but it was in SC
[13:31:17] <gregcnc> not always
[13:31:41] <malcom2073> My knee mill cost me $350
[13:31:53] <malcom2073> I could luck into a lathe I suppose, and if I do, I will heh
[13:32:29] <gregcnc> dang 14°C in chicagoland, perfect oil changing weather
[13:32:29] <MacGalempsy> does that knee mill have ballscrews?
[13:32:39] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: Yeah, it's a 90's factory CNC
[13:32:49] <malcom2073> I refit it with steppers and got it running on linuxcnc
[13:33:34] <MacGalempsy> you are in the land of used machinary and honey
[13:33:56] <malcom2073> PA has a lot of old big iron
[13:34:10] <MacGalempsy> all we get down here is used farm equipment
[13:34:27] <gregcnc> become a farmer?
[13:34:29] <malcom2073> Well rent a trailer, and come to some auctions :)
[13:34:47] <gregcnc> linuxcnc tractors?
[13:35:07] <gregcnc> I've seen nothing interesting on CL here lately
[13:36:25] <MacGalempsy> lol. that would something. it reminds me of Deejay's linuxcnc haybaler
[13:36:29] <malcom2073> Around here, auctions are where things are at
[13:37:12] <Wolf_> CL does suck in this area
[13:37:22] <gregcnc> many auctions, but by the time you pay buyer's premium i don't know what people are thinking
[13:37:48] <malcom2073> Yeah you gotta keep that in mind
[13:38:46] <MacGalempsy> for sure
[13:40:23] <MacGalempsy> bbiab. time to take a walk
[13:40:29] <zeeshan> random q, anyone here ever fix their own furnace before?
[13:40:43] <Wolf_> I fix my own everything
[13:40:45] <zeeshan> my inducer motor is always on, even when the t-stat is off
[13:40:50] <zeeshan> do i have a bad board
[13:41:02] <zeeshan> it looks like thru hole components
[13:41:04] <zeeshan> with a couple of relays
[13:41:05] <Wolf_> board, relay or contactor
[13:41:10] <zeeshan> no contactor
[13:41:25] <Wolf_> then relay
[13:41:33] <malcom2073> I fix my furnace, but my furnace has no circuitry
[13:41:33] <zeeshan> but i hear it click
[13:41:43] <zeeshan> which is what is confusing me
[13:41:52] <Wolf_> odd
[13:41:59] <Wolf_> meter the thing
[13:43:04] <zeeshan> http://imgur.com/a/54muI
[13:44:25] <Wolf_> you might be hearing the relay for the vent motor
[13:45:13] <zeeshan> theres only 2 motors tho?
[13:45:19] <Wolf_> or gas valve
[13:45:21] <zeeshan> one for venting
[13:45:25] <Wolf_> 3 relays
[13:45:32] <zeeshan> one for blower
[13:45:43] <zeeshan> inducer/venting/combustion motor arent these the same thing
[13:45:49] <zeeshan> just called different names
[13:46:10] <Wolf_> I think…
[13:46:22] <zeeshan> what i can do is take off the plug for the vent motor
[13:46:29] <zeeshan> and measure the voltage when the shit is off
[13:46:32] <zeeshan> and then turn on furnace and measure
[13:46:36] <zeeshan> then ill know if its changing state
[13:47:00] <Wolf_> yup, or just ohm check the n/o side of the relay
[13:47:09] <zeeshan> thats a bit harder
[13:47:11] <zeeshan> cause id have to remove board
[13:48:28] <Wolf_> n/o side would be power rail and the motor output
[13:48:59] <zeeshan> its weird
[13:49:04] <zeeshan> if i do a power cycle, itll fire up
[13:49:11] <zeeshan> on the second cycle itll fault out
[13:49:15] <zeeshan> the fault is "pressure switch error"
[13:49:18] <zeeshan> i already tested the pressure switch
[13:49:20] <zeeshan> its working ifne
[13:49:36] <zeeshan> im thinking since the vent motor is on always, its causing a pressure differential when it's not supposed t obe
[13:49:42] <zeeshan> causing the furnace to go into limp mode
[13:50:11] <Wolf_> possibly
[13:52:29] <zeeshan> this is what happens when you dont have linuxcnc
[13:52:35] <zeeshan> doing the control work
[13:52:36] <zeeshan> :{
[13:52:37] <Wolf_> could just try hitting the relays with something and see if the fan goes off
[13:52:44] <zeeshan> will try
[13:53:09] <Wolf_> parents LG fridge light is like that, relay sticks
[13:55:11] <Wolf_> built in t-stat in the camper did the same thing as well, relay welded itself closed, camper gets very warm lol
[14:01:51] <malcom2073> [14:23:25] <zeeshan> this is what happens when you dont have linuxcnc
[14:01:54] <malcom2073> That needs to be on memes
[14:05:34] <zeeshan> hehe
[14:05:39] <zeeshan> Wolf_: guess what
[14:05:43] <zeeshan> hitting the relay worked.
[14:05:44] <zeeshan> it shut off
[14:05:50] <Wolf_> lol
[14:05:54] <zeeshan> so its a stuck relay
[14:06:07] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/HaxqDRT.jpg
[14:06:17] <zeeshan> its the pos that says thailand on it
[14:06:21] <Wolf_> I would still get the part number off the relay and expect to be changing it out at some point
[14:06:57] <zeeshan> yes
[14:07:03] <zeeshan> saves me replacing the whole board
[14:07:10] <zeeshan> for $300!
[14:07:21] <Wolf_> yup, $2 relay vs $$$$ board
[14:07:40] <zeeshan> malcom2073: there is more to why i feel that way
[14:07:46] <zeeshan> i've been using the mazak nexus 2 controller
[14:07:49] <zeeshan> its a fairly modern controller
[14:07:57] <zeeshan> and ive used fanuc in the past
[14:08:01] <zeeshan> both are pieces of shit compared to linuxcnc
[14:08:10] <zeeshan> there is so much extra unnecessary BS on the menus
[14:08:23] <zeeshan> like for example, in linuxcnc we just go to the position and do g54 touch off
[14:08:25] <zeeshan> using a simple button
[14:08:40] <zeeshan> in the nexus, you gotta go through 6 menus per axis
[14:08:41] <Wolf_> hate to say, but thats why I kinda like the path pilot screens
[14:08:42] <zeeshan> to touch off
[14:09:04] <zeeshan> wolf basic axis is 1000000000x better than "pro" controllers
[14:09:10] <zeeshan> all your tool offsets are right there!
[14:09:27] <Wolf_> yeah, well path pilot isn’t too far off from axis
[14:09:29] <zeeshan> i've been using the controller a lot at work because i want to know what the machinists know
[14:09:41] <zeeshan> its so bad
[14:09:56] <zeeshan> these guys were talking about how conversational is SO awesome!!!
[14:10:15] <zeeshan> the professional application engineering from mazak took 1hr 18 minutes
[14:10:18] <zeeshan> to program a simple part
[14:10:29] <zeeshan> with 2 errors in it
[14:10:38] <zeeshan> (misinput geometry)
[14:10:49] <zeeshan> i hogged the laptop over to the floor, and programmed it in 8 minutes flat
[14:11:00] <zeeshan> and guess what, the program is part of the cad file now
[14:11:10] <Wolf_> yup
[14:11:11] <zeeshan> so whenever we make changes to it, or copy it to another design and modify
[14:11:13] <zeeshan> it all follows
[14:11:18] <zeeshan> they were mind blown
[14:11:24] <Wolf_> hah
[14:11:32] <zeeshan> i wish people would give new things a try before forming negative opinions
[14:11:47] <Wolf_> you mean thats not the norm lol
[14:11:52] <zeeshan> haha
[14:11:58] <zeeshan> and to make things even worse
[14:12:02] <zeeshan> it's all running off windows 8.
[14:12:04] <zeeshan> lol
[14:12:42] <Wolf_> cad part, cam, send to machine, mill it, looks wrong, go back to computer and fix, send new gcode to lcnc box, load and go
[14:13:11] <zeeshan> yes
[14:13:21] <zeeshan> using the geometry that already exists
[14:13:24] <zeeshan> right now they look at drawings
[14:13:30] <zeeshan> and have to re-model it in mastercam
[14:13:35] <zeeshan> or program it manually using conversational
[14:13:36] <Frank_6> talking without experience of any controller, my opinion is that lcnc its a little bit hard to learn for the newcomer
[14:13:51] <Frank_6> how long have you been using lcnc?=
[14:13:52] <zeeshan> Frank_6: you don't even want to try a "professional" controller then
[14:14:02] <Wolf_> lcnc is cake vs a real cnc
[14:14:02] <zeeshan> its wayyyyyyyyyyyyy more involved
[14:14:10] <Frank_6> im talking about the setup anyway
[14:14:20] <zeeshan> frank we're talking about two different things
[14:14:24] <zeeshan> operation and setup
[14:14:32] <zeeshan> linuxcnc setup is very hard yes
[14:14:36] <Wolf_> that because lcnc is one size fits all on the machine setup side
[14:14:38] <zeeshan> pro controllers are mostly configured for you
[14:14:47] <zeeshan> but if you want to change behaviour of them, you need to dig through manuals just as much
[14:14:50] <zeeshan> to find the right parameter to change
[14:14:52] <zeeshan> in the plc
[14:15:03] <Frank_6> you would know better than me
[14:15:07] <Wolf_> if you even can on pro setup
[14:15:10] <Frank_6> so, i take your advice
[14:15:15] <zeeshan> wolf you're right
[14:15:19] <zeeshan> right now we dont have the air blast option
[14:15:21] <zeeshan> we need to buy it
[14:15:23] <zeeshan> its software locked
[14:15:24] <zeeshan> lol
[14:15:27] <Wolf_> yup lol
[14:15:35] <zeeshan> its okay, i dont mind that
[14:15:38] <zeeshan> they gotta make money
[14:15:43] <zeeshan> but for a 350000 machine
[14:15:50] <zeeshan> i'd think the controller would be more userfriendly
[14:16:05] <Frank_6> wihch is the easyest way to make lcnc receive servo ready and alarm inputs to work with?
[14:16:08] <Wolf_> nope, I bet they offer training :P
[14:16:24] <elektrinis> hi
[14:16:29] <Frank_6> hi
[14:16:40] <elektrinis> going to build my first cnc..
[14:16:53] <elektrinis> was wondering, why are these square bearing not very popular?
[14:16:53] <elektrinis> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Mini-MGN15H-Extension-Guide-Rail-Sliding-Block-for-Linear-Sliding-Device-/272494250794
[14:16:57] <elektrinis> is it just cost?
[14:17:01] <elektrinis> or any other reasons
[14:17:29] <Frank_6> depends the machine
[14:17:42] <Frank_6> if its a 3d printer it would seem to be fine
[14:17:46] <Wolf_> depends on what you are building, mostly cost tho, and most DIY are use to seeing the rod based stuff from 3d printers
[14:18:22] <elektrinis> I would build a small milling machine, like 50x50 cm table
[14:18:32] <Wolf_> I have rail and trucks for a cnc build that I have been sitting on for over 12 yrs now
[14:18:33] <Frank_6> to mill what materials
[14:19:23] <elektrinis> for aluminum and sometimes non-carbon steel
[14:19:54] <elektrinis> i mean are these block bearings not as stiff, or what?
[14:20:11] <Wolf_> compared to what?
[14:20:21] <elektrinis> to this:
[14:20:22] <elektrinis> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/HIWIN-EGR15-750MM-Long-Linear-Rail-Guide-2pc-Carriage-EGH15CA-Rail-Block-CNC-/191863569396
[14:20:25] <Frank_6> you need way bigger blocks and rails
[14:20:26] <elektrinis> oh, sorry
[14:20:33] <elektrinis> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/2-pcs-SBR12-Linear-Bearing-Rails-rod-350mm-4pcs-SBR12-UU-CNC-/310762573942
[14:20:34] <elektrinis> this
[14:20:46] <Frank_6> that wont cut aluminum either
[14:20:57] <elektrinis> well, it does
[14:20:59] <elektrinis> slowly
[14:21:13] <elektrinis> we have chinese 6040z machine at work
[14:21:14] <Frank_6> and with a crappy finish
[14:21:25] <Frank_6> and no precision
[14:21:26] <elektrinis> mostly acceptable
[14:21:48] <Frank_6> well, if it works for you then buy those
[14:21:54] <elektrinis> what will cut aluminu,?
[14:22:01] <Wolf_> the 12mm rod stuff isn’t going to be as solid as the rail, but the rail comes in bigger sizes and also depends on what you are attaching it to
[14:22:23] <elektrinis> yes, it is all about atachment
[14:22:25] <Frank_6> 35mm hiwin rails/blocks and bigger is what milling machines usually use
[14:22:31] <elektrinis> but lets say I attach it well
[14:22:39] <elektrinis> will think about all forces etc
[14:22:48] <elektrinis> the bearing itself is fine?
[14:23:24] <Wolf_> to a heavy steel base with no deflection and bearing blocks rated for the side loads or designed for it, yeah it will work
[14:23:37] <Wolf_> s/no/low
[14:59:48] <elektrinis> also, what kind of accuracy could you achieve with belt drive?
[15:39:17] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/l/t1.0-9/16195633_1519592098055166_825702529300802703_n.jpg?oh=e0d5ae1e39899e87a8bbebce062d9e11&oe=591ED0E4
[15:39:18] <malcom2073> https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/16142245_1519592108055165_1256883618696016840_n.jpg?oh=12ec46e97a7940a7a5f1bd682fc5f149&oe=591799E4
[16:10:15] <MacGalempsy> /away
[16:10:31] <MacGalempsy> hey
[16:10:42] <MacGalempsy> malcom2073: what is that slot cutter for?
[16:11:00] <MacGalempsy> is that what you are using on the heat sinks?
[16:11:02] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: The grooves in the LED light bars
[16:11:07] <malcom2073> That the aluminum tube goes through
[16:11:13] <MacGalempsy> ah. ok
[16:11:23] <MacGalempsy> do you use a fixture?
[16:11:41] <malcom2073> Nah, just a vise and work-stop
[16:11:51] <malcom2073> Do one groove, flip it, do the other
[16:12:03] <MacGalempsy> sweet
[16:12:19] <MacGalempsy> thats a pretty good size arbor on there
[16:12:48] <malcom2073> Nah, that's a 5/16 I believe
[16:12:54] <malcom2073> Oh the arbor
[16:12:58] <malcom2073> 3/4 shank, 7/8 arbor
[16:13:22] <Tom_L> looked like about an inch to me
[16:13:29] <MacGalempsy> ok. it seemed bigger, but probably because no scale.
[16:13:38] <malcom2073> Tom_L: 7/8 often does :-P
[16:13:58] <Tom_L> i have a few similar cutters but never use em
[16:14:00] <malcom2073> my first time cutting steel
[16:14:12] <malcom2073> on the lathe
[16:14:19] <MacGalempsy> im going to need you to start taking pics with a ruler included for scale, mmmkay?
[16:14:24] <malcom2073> mmkay
[16:14:27] <Tom_L> ahh you made the arbor?
[16:14:59] <malcom2073> Tom_L: Yeah
[16:15:22] <Tom_L> i've got a couple for my sherline but don't get much use
[16:15:30] <malcom2073> I didn't make the cutter heh
[16:15:38] <malcom2073> That was a find at cabin fever expo for $2.50
[16:15:50] <gregcnc> decided to make an arbor... are you going to key it?
[16:16:08] <gregcnc> $2.50 nice!
[16:16:11] <malcom2073> Nah. The arbor I'm using now isn't keyed and seems to do fine. Reason I'm making another is the one I'm using now is for slitting saws, so it's weaker
[16:16:21] <MacGalempsy> a lot of good work going on around here lately
[16:16:29] <malcom2073> gregcnc: Got 4 of them for $10, variety of sizes, it was an excellent find
[16:16:40] <Tom_L> mac, how's the wiring job goin?
[16:16:50] <gregcnc> I make it to NAMES every so often
[16:17:13] <MacGalempsy> Tom_L: had a little bit of a setback with the controller board, so waiting for an RMA# so I can send it in for repairs
[16:17:20] <malcom2073> NAMES is a bit far for me, but cabin fever is an hour so it's worth it heh
[16:17:47] <gregcnc> it's 5 hours, but I visit with friends
[16:18:35] <MacGalempsy> however, the rest of it is up and ready to plug in. only other thing is waiting are the 2 2pole relays that wil be used to reverse the dc motor on the turret, those should be here by teusday
[16:18:41] <zeeshan> Tom_L: how is it there in trump land?!?! :D
[16:19:32] <MacGalempsy> zeeshan: dont you have some furnace repair to do instead of starting fights?
[16:19:49] <zeeshan> rofl MacGalempsyi kid
[16:19:52] <zeeshan> i like trump
[16:19:54] <malcom2073> Just because he's canadian doesn't mean he starts fights, it just means he apologizes for them
[16:20:03] <MacGalempsy> lol
[16:20:10] <zeeshan> i converted 10k cad to usd
[16:20:13] <zeeshan> 2 days ago
[16:20:16] <zeeshan> thats how much i like USA!
[16:20:25] <zeeshan> and beleive he'll make a diff
[16:20:36] <malcom2073> zeeshan: I talked to my dad about that part, and he said he'd do it for half of what even you said haha, he's retired so his labor is cheap I guess
[16:20:41] <gregcnc> canada https://youtu.be/8wxRrUKHglI
[16:20:47] <zeeshan> malcom2073: nice!
[16:20:53] <zeeshan> and no shipping involved :D
[16:20:56] <malcom2073> Yep!
[16:21:12] <zeeshan> gregcnc: lol
[16:21:27] <gregcnc> time to start the grill
[16:21:47] <zeeshan> btw guyus
[16:21:54] <zeeshan> that electric motor for the hydraulic pump
[16:21:58] <zeeshan> even with the dents is working great
[16:22:32] <MacGalempsy> once I saw two canadians get into a fight and a hockey game broke out!
[16:22:41] <zeeshan> rofl
[16:23:46] <MacGalempsy> zeeshan: are you investing in US currency, so that when the canadian dollar plummets, you can convert and make some $$$?
[16:23:56] <zeeshan> yes
[16:24:26] <MacGalempsy> nice
[16:24:38] <MacGalempsy> you are like George Soros Jr over here
[16:25:04] <XXCoder> dunno usa currancy stability heh
[16:26:05] <zeeshan> i predict it'll go up to 1.50ish
[16:26:16] <zeeshan> and then drop hard to 1.10
[16:38:35] <MacGalempsy> man, anyone ever try this 8 min abs? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=W-9L0J_9qag
[16:38:46] <MacGalempsy> trying to run down the keg
[16:39:35] <Deejay> gn8
[16:42:13] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JRc7Bhe060U
[16:42:17] <malcom2073> That's how I'm holding the piece
[16:43:16] <MacGalempsy> that loooks like a good quick setup
[16:43:38] <MacGalempsy> Devtron misses you in hangout
[16:43:47] <MacGalempsy> he is crying right now
[16:54:39] <XXCoder> groovy indeed
[16:55:16] <XXCoder> the vise is pretty orange. rust?
[16:55:58] <malcom2073> Old oil
[16:56:15] <XXCoder> yea that was other possibility
[16:58:14] <MacGalempsy> XXCoder: you get your farmbot printing yet?
[16:58:24] <XXCoder> not anytime soon unfortunately
[17:00:20] <MacGalempsy> too bad
[17:01:25] <XXCoder> yeah
[17:10:58] <os1r1s> XXCoder You run a g0704 size mill, right?
[17:11:36] <XXCoder> nah I either run A61 at work, or tiny cnc router at home
[17:11:46] <os1r1s> Hmm, ok. Mustve remembered wrong
[17:13:49] <XXCoder> ask question anyway maybe its answerable question or someone might come alive in here and answer
[17:15:33] <os1r1s> XXCoder I'm putting shields of sorts up around my pm25mv (basically a g0704) and I'm trying to figure out how high I should make them.
[17:23:38] <XXCoder> os thats when its better to do manual if possibkle
[17:24:06] <Wolf_> work holding is the same for manual/cnc
[17:25:24] <MacGalempsy> I kind of like the weld-down aspect
[17:25:31] <Wolf_> lol
[17:25:59] <os1r1s> I think I've tried just about every fixturing possible and none are quick
[17:26:24] <Wolf_> have to design/think about it as you are working on the part
[17:26:30] <malcom2073> Vise or clamps with temporary work stops is about as quick as I've found
[17:26:41] <Wolf_> ^
[17:26:55] <MacGalempsy> probe helps to speed things up
[17:27:09] <archivist> on the end of a stick of material that is easy to clamp, then part off
[17:27:15] <Wolf_> zero stop on the vice
[17:27:52] <Wolf_> then work the origin off the vice corner for all ops
[17:27:53] <os1r1s> I think a vise or hold downs work well with 2d/2.5d parts. But with 3d I think its difficult without fixturing.
[17:28:42] <Wolf_> cut soft jaws for odd shaped parts
[17:30:00] <archivist> for gears I make arbours
[17:30:44] <XXCoder> multi-stage cuts
[17:30:59] <XXCoder> many of jobs I run at work have in least prep, a, b
[17:31:14] <XXCoder> record one is prep, a, b, c, d, e
[17:31:42] <archivist> my stuff is often part on mill part on lathe
[17:31:43] <XXCoder> we use techogrip a LOT there
[17:36:07] <MacGalempsy> what is that?
[17:36:13] <os1r1s> XXCoder technogrip?
[17:36:31] <XXCoder> a second
[17:36:58] <XXCoder> https://www.radical-departures.net/articles/techni-grip-work-holding-system/images/MVC.jpg
[17:37:05] <XXCoder> it is very effective
[17:37:12] <XXCoder> you just do basic prep on bottom
[17:37:22] <XXCoder> then it holds parts good and strong
[17:37:23] <MacGalempsy> those look nice an speedy
[17:37:29] <MacGalempsy> kind of like mitey bites
[17:37:46] <XXCoder> it dont show but theres pegs you add bottom of grip
[17:37:54] <XXCoder> and prep side has indentions
[17:38:01] <XXCoder> so pretty good repeatability
[17:39:22] <XXCoder> https://static1.squarespace.com/static/54c956fae4b03574b029eefa/57aa2c0d59cc680c79dbda6a/57ead5798419c260da22b282/1480977068022/banner+1.jpg
[17:39:31] <XXCoder> theres more styles but you get idea
[17:39:55] <JT-Shop2> just got the batch of elderberry/elderberry blush done, just have to pitch the yeast starter
[17:40:05] <XXCoder> this is typoe I use ALLLLLL time at work https://www.radical-departures.net/articles/techni-grip-work-holding-system/images/Tech_grip.jpg
[17:40:22] <MacGalempsy> ?
[17:40:34] <MacGalempsy> JT-Shop2: cooking?
[17:40:38] <XXCoder> its type used on pallet
[17:41:28] <MacGalempsy> those techni-grips look like they would be good to make your own knockoffs
[17:41:47] <XXCoder> sure
[17:42:01] <JT-Shop2> MacGalempsy: 5 gallons of elderberry wine with 5 gallons of elderberry blush wine
[17:42:02] <MacGalempsy> you know, if you are into that kind of stuff
[17:42:21] <XXCoder> its work stuff I dont plan to make knockoffs there
[17:42:24] <MacGalempsy> ah. you are a man of many talents
[17:42:30] <XXCoder> I dont need any of those at home
[17:43:55] <JT-Shop2> http://gnipsel.com/wine/wine.html
[17:44:25] <XXCoder> http://www.technigrip.com/all-products
[17:44:29] <XXCoder> so expensive
[17:45:00] <XXCoder> 2 of one I use all time equals my car price
[17:45:10] <XXCoder> and work has what? 12? of em
[17:45:38] <MacGalempsy> think of the time it saves
[17:45:42] <MacGalempsy> and its patented
[17:46:20] <XXCoder> honestly?
[17:46:27] <MacGalempsy> get us the cad model ;)
[17:46:31] <XXCoder> its cheap compared to how long its been used at work
[17:46:42] <XXCoder> its used CONSTANTLY
[17:47:10] <MacGalempsy> yeah, if it cuts like 10 minutes of setups and multiple operations, then its worth it
[17:48:01] <MacGalempsy> what are the allen heads down the middle for?
[17:48:03] <XXCoder> LOL just found old picture of my work site
[17:48:19] <XXCoder> its for repeatability on part placement
[17:48:42] <JT-Shop2> you slide the part up to one of them?
[17:48:45] <XXCoder> prepped blocks has keystone cut and round indentions
[17:48:48] <MacGalempsy> is it like a keeper?
[17:49:14] <XXCoder> it cant be placed wrong way if you need it in odd placement (for example one side is sloped down
[17:49:35] <XXCoder> 2 inentions top one inentions bottom
[17:50:10] <JT-Shop2> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IIEMD6oOF8Y
[17:50:13] <MacGalempsy> looking at that tombstone for $7200 and it just doesnt seem like $20 worth of material
[17:50:35] <MacGalempsy> is the base steel or titanium?
[17:50:41] <XXCoder> unknown
[17:50:51] <XXCoder> base is part of a61 not techogrip
[17:51:09] <MacGalempsy> please magnet check that :)
[17:51:18] <XXCoder> lol ask makers of a61
[17:51:44] <MacGalempsy> that video that jt posted is pretty cool
[17:51:55] <JT-Shop2> it's been 10 years since I made wine
[17:52:04] <MacGalempsy> are you wasted yet?
[17:52:05] <JT-Shop2> feels good to make a batch again
[17:52:10] <XXCoder> any good?
[17:52:23] <JT-Shop2> hard to get wasted on sugar water lol
[17:52:33] <JT-Shop2> yea, my wine is top shelf
[17:52:37] <XXCoder> or does it taste like you acciently drank homeless guy pee bottle?
[17:53:20] <XXCoder> that video lol
[17:53:41] <MacGalempsy> oh its just juice atm?
[17:53:59] <XXCoder> most achcols need time to ummm convert to drinkable stuff
[17:54:04] <XXCoder> brew
[17:54:14] <JT-Shop2> yea, just started the yeast starter last night and did the berries this afternoon
[17:54:37] <JT-Shop2> it takes about 3-6 months to finish a batch
[17:54:38] <XXCoder> MacGalempsy: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D0ogG7wJcP0
[17:54:50] <XXCoder> it shows what I mean on prep for techigrip
[17:55:03] <XXCoder> you can see inention in middle
[17:55:07] <MacGalempsy> XXCoder: that is the one jt just posted
[17:55:20] <XXCoder> no its second one
[17:55:29] <MacGalempsy> oh ok
[17:55:35] <XXCoder> check it out
[17:55:39] <JT-Shop2> yea different stuff after v=
[17:56:21] <XXCoder> wow old video allright
[17:56:29] <JT-Shop2> a little more wiring to do then back to the last bit of itch tomorrow
[17:56:45] <MacGalempsy> Ah, ok I see what they are used for. aligning the holes
[17:56:53] <XXCoder> yeah its awesome
[17:57:01] <XXCoder> bit annoying woth big and heavy blocks
[17:57:09] <XXCoder> but grips so good
[17:57:12] <MacGalempsy> sounds like you need to work out :P
[17:57:26] <XXCoder> always been a weak guy even with heavy exercising
[17:58:59] <MacGalempsy> interestingly on the alcohol stuff, you can make a light fermented dring from pineapple rind
[17:59:03] <JT-Shop2> see you in the morning, going in to pitch the yeast
[17:59:10] <XXCoder> later
[17:59:25] <MacGalempsy> bye
[17:59:37] <MacGalempsy> http://www.ambergristoday.com/content/whats-cooking-belize/2015/january/12/make-tepache-fresh-homemade-pineapple-juice
[17:59:52] <XXCoder> mac honestly concept is very simple
[18:00:07] <XXCoder> you can make one if you has a mill
[18:00:27] <MacGalempsy> one of these days mine will be working again :)
[18:00:32] <XXCoder> for center pegs you just use regular socket head bolt, send it off to lathe smooth it out and face it off
[18:01:02] <XXCoder> very precise bolt head size so you can then size indentions
[18:01:37] <XXCoder> it uses special washer to set bolt above surface, no washer to flush it to protect screw holes
[18:01:43] <XXCoder> thats all reallt
[18:02:18] <MacGalempsy> cool
[18:02:55] <MacGalempsy> hey pete
[18:03:05] <BeachBumPete> Hey mac
[18:03:16] <XXCoder> hey bum
[18:03:16] <MacGalempsy> nice and warm in FL today?
[18:03:35] <BeachBumPete> sure was...beautiful man
[18:04:01] <BeachBumPete> it was a pretty busy week here so I just chilled at home but it was a gorgeous day anyway.
[18:04:06] <MacGalempsy> it just got cool and started thunderstorming here
[18:04:42] <BeachBumPete> its supposed to get a bit cooler and stormy tomorrow night as this front moves thru that caused a lot of damage in the southern states
[18:05:07] <XXCoder> mac BTW if you wanna buy one used, make sure it comes with clamps and bolts because one clamp is over 50 bucks lol
[18:05:17] <XXCoder> example http://www.ebay.com/itm/MCU01-A412-Categories-TECHNI-GRIP-UNIVERSAL-ASSEMBLY-WORKHOLDING-SYSTEM-/122310736354
[18:05:33] <XXCoder> theres 12 there so its decent deal
[18:05:39] <MacGalempsy> Jezus cristo!
[18:05:47] <XXCoder> no springs so you gonna find em
[18:06:00] <XXCoder> trust me you want springs lol
[18:06:22] <MacGalempsy> i guess if they get to be necessary, I can just make a fixture to cut them
[18:06:51] <MacGalempsy> minor redesign to work with homedepot hardware
[18:06:56] <XXCoder> I saw em being made, its not easy to make
[18:07:10] <XXCoder> the clamp parts
[18:07:36] <MacGalempsy> 4th axis fixture?
[18:08:09] <XXCoder> it was being made at old cell not too sure as I was too busy working to look at it running
[18:08:10] <BeachBumPete> is that a tombstone for a 4th?
[18:08:26] <XXCoder> the ebay one? nah its any use
[18:08:31] <XXCoder> I used one in vise before
[18:08:58] <XXCoder> other time bolted directly on table
[18:09:04] <MacGalempsy> I think the $7k tombstone could be used on a 4th axis
[18:09:11] <XXCoder> it is
[18:09:31] <XXCoder> bigger one has nice slots in middle, few jobs require that
[18:09:45] <MacGalempsy> BeachBumPete: did you say you have a 4th axis, or you want to get one?
[18:10:12] <XXCoder> when tool has to go behind where techo-tombstone would be, fairly rare but few jobs need that to be much more convient
[18:11:09] <BeachBumPete> I do not currently have a fourth axis. My machine came prewired for it which is nice but I have yet to acquire one
[18:13:19] <MacGalempsy> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/32029-rods-spaceship-scratch-built-plasma-cutter-build
[18:13:30] <MacGalempsy> https://forum.linuxcnc.org/show-your-stuff/30391-4th-axis-build
[18:13:40] <XXCoder> maybe someone knows, my car external temperate tend to stay at -40f
[18:13:48] <XXCoder> anyone know why?
[18:14:47] <MacGalempsy> bad sensor?
[18:14:57] <XXCoder> thats what Im thinking
[18:35:31] <BeachBumPete> back from dinner ;)
[18:35:41] <XXCoder> hey!
[18:35:44] <XXCoder> wheres mine?
[18:35:44] <os1r1s> BeachBumPete Hows florida treating you?
[18:35:56] <BeachBumPete> Lovin' it so far
[18:36:09] <XXCoder> keep that privarte
[18:36:11] <XXCoder> ;)
[18:36:19] <XXCoder> so fla is nice so far eh
[18:36:38] <XXCoder> I got pretty close to accepting job there, but job offer pay sucked
[18:36:41] <os1r1s> BeachBumPete Got your job flow happening again?
[18:37:04] <jdh> fl companies pay with Sunshine Dollars
[18:37:20] <BeachBumPete> well I am working full time doing custom cabinetry and installations and doing the CNC thing nights and weekends but yeah it is picking up slowly
[18:37:59] <os1r1s> BeachBumPete Very nice
[18:38:04] <os1r1s> Glad to hear its working out
[18:38:42] <BeachBumPete> thank you. So far we are very happy here. Been doing a lot of fishing/kayak fishing, going to the beach etc.
[18:38:54] <BeachBumPete> Local restaurants are amazing
[18:38:54] <XXCoder> nice :)
[18:39:16] <jdh> Pete: I'll be in Delray in March, I'll look for you as I drive by.
[18:39:25] <BeachBumPete> Ok
[18:39:35] <XXCoder> with a gun eh heh
[18:39:36] <XXCoder> brb
[18:39:38] <BeachBumPete> or you could just drop in and say hello
[18:40:26] <jdh> You have a bike? Sign up for the Delray Beach Granfondo March 19th!
[18:41:46] <BeachBumPete> I have a bike I built myself ;)
[18:52:21] <jdh> I have two built in Tennessee
[18:56:14] <Jymmm> JT-Shop2: I added grilled mushrooms and sauted spinach with garlic, 2c cheese, 2c half-and-half instead of heavy cream, no salt, and cooked in a 12" cast iron frying pan in the oven instead of a crust... http://www.foodnetwork.com/recipes/paula-deen/spinach-and-bacon-quiche-recipe.html.
[19:05:16] <MacGalempsy> well guys, im out for the night. ttyl.
[20:15:06] <zeeshan> http://i.imgur.com/X1DfRJh.png
[20:15:09] <zeeshan> fak so many projects
[20:15:10] <zeeshan> so little time
[20:15:17] <zeeshan> i call this machine the hand crusher
[20:15:24] <zeeshan> (its a sugar cane juicer)
[21:35:38] <jdh> 316?