#linuxcnc | Logs for 2017-01-15

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[00:34:55] <XXCoder> LOL
[00:35:14] <XXCoder> finnair flight 666 lands on city Hel on friday the 13th
[03:09:32] <roycroft> i found some small, 5v and 24v linear power supplies, so i can just use the 48v ps for the steppers, and not worry about field power
[03:54:07] <Deejay> moin
[03:54:23] <XXCoder> yo
[05:38:40] <jthornton> morning
[05:39:54] <XXCoder> hey jt
[05:40:02] <XXCoder> I finally removed z limit switch
[05:40:08] <XXCoder> and installed 90 degree support
[05:40:17] <jthornton> did you get the probe to work?
[05:40:18] <XXCoder> and finally reconnected powerbox to frame
[05:40:20] <XXCoder> yeah
[05:40:57] <jthornton> cool got a photo?
[05:42:13] <XXCoder> nah I got really sick after
[05:42:28] <XXCoder> either its reaction to something I ate or its coming back
[05:46:53] <jthornton> yuck
[05:47:11] <XXCoder> been sick for damned week
[05:47:26] <jthornton> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-31.jpg
[05:47:46] <jthornton> wife was sick for 2 weeks
[05:47:50] <XXCoder> golden
[05:47:56] <XXCoder> sure you arent trump?
[05:48:57] <jthornton> it's a bitch to hang it up with all the crap in the way
[05:49:36] <XXCoder> insulation sheets?
[05:49:58] <jthornton> bats of fiberglass insulation
[08:34:54] <cnc> hallo leute ich habe ein problem und keine ahnung :)) Beim Starten von Linuxcnc bekomme ich einen rtapi error . kann mir da jemand etwas weiterhelfen ?
[08:36:37] <banenan> hallo leute ich habe ein problem und keine ahnung :)) Beim Starten von Linuxcnc bekomme ich einen rtapi error . kann mir da jemand etwas weiterhelfen ?
[08:39:24] <banenan> 0xff
[08:39:25] <banenan> [ 1.148926] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 4: 0x00000213: type 0x13 idx 2 tag 0xff
[08:39:27] <banenan> [ 1.148931] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Raw DCB entry 0: 02000300 00000028
[08:39:29] <banenan> [ 1.148936] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Raw DCB entry 1: 01000302 00000030
[08:39:30] <banenan> [ 1.148940] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Raw DCB entry 2: 04011310 00000028
[08:39:32] <banenan> [ 1.148944] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Raw DCB entry 3: 010223f1 00c0c083
[08:39:33] <banenan> [ 1.148953] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 0 at offset 0xBC41
[08:39:35] <banenan> [ 1.157090] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[08:39:37] <banenan> [ 1.189197] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 1 at offset 0xBF5C
[08:39:38] <banenan> [ 1.220019] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 2 at offset 0xCB9E
[08:39:39] <archivist> pastebin
[08:39:40] <banenan> [ 1.220030] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 3 at offset 0xCC90
[08:39:41] <banenan> [ 1.228084] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table 4 at offset 0xCE73
[08:39:43] <banenan> [ 1.228089] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Parsing VBIOS init table at offset 0xCED8
[08:39:45] <banenan> [ 1.252018] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xCED8: Condition still not met after 20ms, skipping following opcodes
[08:39:46] <banenan> [ 1.252029] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xAED4: parsing output script 0
[08:39:47] <jthornton> USE PASTEBIN
[08:39:48] <banenan> [ 1.252034] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xA564: parsing output script 0
[08:39:50] <banenan> [ 1.342200] [TTM] Zone kernel: Available graphics memory: 436978 kiB.
[08:39:51] <banenan> [ 1.342205] [TTM] Zone highmem: Available graphics memory: 1030870 kiB.
[08:39:53] <banenan> [ 1.342221] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 256 MiB VRAM
[08:39:54] <banenan> [ 1.393224] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:39:56] <banenan> [ 1.402984] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 512 MiB GART (aperture)
[08:39:57] <banenan> [ 1.403858] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Allocating FIFO number 1
[08:39:59] <banenan> [ 1.416529] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: nouveau_channel_alloc: initialised FIFO 1
[08:40:01] <banenan> [ 1.417729] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Detected a DAC output
[08:40:02] <banenan> [ 1.417734] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Detected a TMDS output
[08:40:04] <banenan> [ 1.417738] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Detected a DAC output
[08:40:05] <banenan> [ 1.417743] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: DCB encoder 1 unknown
[08:40:07] <banenan> [ 1.417748] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Detected a DVI-I connector
[08:40:08] <banenan> [ 1.417963] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Detected a VGA connector
[08:40:10] <banenan> [ 1.593464] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: allocated 1600x1200 fb: 0x40250000, bo f6a1cc00
[08:40:11] <banenan> [ 1.593646] fb0: nouveaufb frame buffer device
[08:40:13] <banenan> [ 1.593650] registered panic notifier
[08:40:14] <banenan> [ 1.593659] [drm] Initialized nouveau 0.0.15 20090420 for 0000:01:00.0 on minor 0
[08:40:16] <banenan> [ 1.596267] vga16fb: initializing
[08:40:17] <banenan> [ 1.596273] vga16fb: mapped to 0xc00a0000
[08:40:19] <banenan> [ 1.596279] vga16fb: not registering due to another framebuffer present
[08:40:21] <banenan> [ 1.607464] Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 200x75
[08:40:22] <banenan> [ 1.607490] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0xAED8: parsing output script 1
[08:40:23] <jthornton> someone ban him
[08:40:24] <banenan> [ 1.607515] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: 0x80FF: parsing clock script 0
[08:40:25] <banenan> [ 1.649032] usb 4-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 2
[08:40:27] <banenan> [ 1.824704] usb 4-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:40:28] <banenan> [ 1.847788] usbcore: registered new interface driver hiddev
[08:40:30] <banenan> [ 1.852923] input: Logitech Gaming Mouse G502 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.0/input/input3
[08:40:31] <banenan> [ 1.853211] generic-usb 0003:046D:C07D.0001: input,hidraw0: USB HID v1.11 Mouse [Logitech Gaming Mouse G502] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input0
[08:40:33] <banenan> [ 1.861763] input: Logitech Gaming Mouse G502 as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-1/4-1:1.1/input/input4
[08:40:35] <banenan> [ 1.861964] generic-usb 0003:046D:C07D.0002: input,hiddev96,hidraw1: USB HID v1.11 Keyboard [Logitech Gaming Mouse G502] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-1/input1
[08:40:36] <banenan> [ 1.862002] usbcore: registered new interface driver usbhid
[08:40:38] <banenan> [ 1.862008] usbhid: v2.6:USB HID core driver
[08:40:39] <banenan> [ 2.068058] usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[08:40:41] <banenan> [ 2.074457] xor: automatically using best checksumming function: pIII_sse
[08:40:42] <banenan> [ 2.092013] pIII_sse : 4284.000 MB/sec
[08:40:44] <banenan> [ 2.092017] xor: using function: pIII_sse (4284.000 MB/sec)
[08:40:45] <banenan> [ 2.096481] device-mapper: dm-raid45: initialized v0.2594b
[08:40:47] <banenan> [ 2.238698] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:40:48] <archivist> most of us have no powers to kick ban
[08:40:48] <banenan> [ 2.245922] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/input/input5
[08:40:50] <banenan> [ 2.246065] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.0003: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input0
[08:40:52] <banenan> [ 2.299722] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.1/input/input6
[08:40:53] <banenan> [ 2.299948] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.0004: input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input1
[08:40:55] <banenan> [ 2.303925] EXT4-fs (sda7): INFO: recovery required on readonly filesystem
[08:40:56] <banenan> [ 2.303934] EXT4-fs (sda7): write access will be enabled during recovery
[08:40:56] <jthornton> ignore works lol
[08:40:58] <banenan> [ 2.368227] ieee1394: Host added: ID:BUS[0-00:1023] GUID[0016e60000b7d980]
[08:40:59] <banenan> [ 3.120583] EXT4-fs (sda7): orphan cleanup on readonly fs
[08:41:01] <banenan> [ 3.120599] EXT4-fs (sda7): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 28138
[08:41:03] <banenan> [ 3.120695] EXT4-fs (sda7): ext4_orphan_cleanup: deleting unreferenced inode 28137
[08:41:04] <banenan> [ 3.120725] EXT4-fs (sda7): 2 orphan inodes deleted
[08:41:06] <banenan> [ 3.120732] EXT4-fs (sda7): recovery complete
[08:41:07] <banenan> [ 3.330123] EXT4-fs (sda7): mounted filesystem with ordered data mode
[08:41:09] <banenan> [ 14.042031] udev: starting version 151
[08:41:10] <banenan> [ 14.097817] lp: driver loaded but no devices found
[08:41:12] <banenan> [ 14.147541] Adding 257016k swap on /dev/sda8. Priority:-1 extents:1 across:257016k
[08:41:13] <banenan> [ 14.449991] parport_pc 00:08: reported by Plug and Play ACPI
[08:41:15] <banenan> [ 14.450056] parport0: PC-style at 0x378 (0x778), irq 7, dma 3 [PCSPP,TRISTATE,COMPAT,ECP,DMA]
[08:41:16] <banenan> [ 14.469766] ppdev: user-space parallel port driver
[08:41:18] <banenan> [ 14.500166] usblp0: USB Bidirectional printer dev 2 if 0 alt 0 proto 2 vid 0x0FE6 pid 0x811E
[08:41:20] <banenan> [ 14.500211] usbcore: registered new interface driver usblp
[08:41:21] <banenan> [ 14.549335] lp0: using parport0 (interrupt-driven).
[08:41:23] <banenan> [ 14.559577] type=1505 audit(1484473958.599:2): operation="profile_load" pid=635 name="/sbin/dhclient3"
[08:41:24] <banenan> [ 14.560431] type=1505 audit(1484473958.603:3): operation="profile_load" pid=635 name="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action"
[08:41:25] <archivist> banenan, stop that
[08:41:26] <banenan> [ 14.560883] type=1505 audit(1484473958.603:4): operation="profile_load" pid=635 name="/usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script"
[08:41:27] <banenan> [ 14.678908] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
[08:41:29] <banenan> [ 14.678954] HDA Intel 0000:00:1b.0: setting latency timer to 64
[08:41:31] <banenan> [ 14.760255] input: HDA Digital PCBeep as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1b.0/input/input7
[08:41:32] <banenan> [ 14.811425] type=1505 audit(1484473958.851:5): operation="profile_replace" pid=755 name="/sbin/dhclient3"
[08:41:34] <banenan> [ 14.812263] type=1505 audit(1484473958.855:6): operation="profile_replace" pid=755 name="/usr/lib/NetworkManager/nm-dhcp-client.action"
[08:41:35] <banenan> [ 14.812735] type=1505 audit(1484473958.855:7): operation="profile_replace" pid=755 name="/usr/lib/connman/scripts/dhclient-script"
[08:41:37] <banenan> [ 14.816888] type=1505 audit(1484473958.859:8): operation="profile_load" pid=754 name="/usr/share/gdm/guest-session/Xsession"
[08:41:38] <banenan> [ 14.835092] type=1505 audit(1484473958.875:9): operation="profile_load" pid=770 name="/usr/lib/cups/backend/cups-pdf"
[08:41:40] <banenan> [ 14.836064] type=1505 audit(1484473958.879:10): operation="profile_load" pid=770 name="/usr/sbin/cupsd"
[08:41:41] <banenan> [ 14.847230] type=1505 audit(1484473958.887:11): operation="profile_load" pid=763 name="/usr/bin/evince"
[08:41:43] <banenan> [ 15.088376] e1000e 0000:03:00.0: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X
[08:41:44] <banenan> [ 15.144155] e1000e 0000:03:00.0: irq 27 for MSI/MSI-X
[08:41:46] <banenan> [ 15.144767] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): eth0: link is not ready
[08:41:48] <banenan> [ 15.679226] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: Allocating FIFO number 2
[08:41:49] <banenan> [ 15.692541] [drm] nouveau 0000:01:00.0: nouveau_channel_alloc: initialised FIFO 2
[08:41:51] <banenan> [ 16.743538] e1000e: eth0 NIC Link is Up 100 Mbps Full Duplex, Flow Control: RX/TX
[08:41:52] <banenan> [ 16.743545] 0000:03:00.0: eth0: 10/100 speed: disabling TSO
[08:41:54] <banenan> [ 16.743791] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_CHANGE): eth0: link becomes ready
[08:41:55] <banenan> [ 123.824651] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:41:57] <banenan> [ 123.824661] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:41:58] <banenan> [ 123.824665] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:42:00] <banenan> [ 123.824757] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:42:01] <banenan> [ 123.824761] PIPELINE layers:
[08:42:03] <banenan> [ 123.824766] fd1b5e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:42:05] <banenan> [ 123.824769] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:42:06] <banenan> [ 123.867447] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:42:08] <banenan> [ 123.867877] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:42:09] <banenan> [ 123.867886] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:42:11] <banenan> [ 123.867892] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:42:12] <banenan> [ 123.867896] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:42:14] <banenan> [ 123.868035] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:42:15] <banenan> [ 123.937417] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:42:17] <banenan> [ 124.151322] config string '0x378 out '
[08:42:18] <banenan> [ 124.784420]
[08:42:20] <banenan> [ 124.784423] In recent history there were
[08:42:21] <banenan> [ 124.784425] 2655470, 2657320, 2658380, 2659010, and 2651530
[08:42:23] <banenan> [ 124.784427] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[08:42:25] <banenan> [ 124.784432] This time, there were 3452120 which is so anomalously
[08:42:26] <banenan> [ 124.784434] large that it probably signifies a problem with your
[08:42:28] <banenan> [ 124.784435] realtime configuration. For the rest of this run of
[08:42:29] <banenan> [ 124.784437] EMC, this message will be suppressed.
[08:42:31] <banenan> [ 124.784439]
[08:42:32] <banenan> [ 127.203210] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[08:42:34] <banenan> [ 127.203214] This Message will only display once per session.
[08:42:35] <banenan> [ 127.203216] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[08:42:37] <banenan> [ 166.391582] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:42:38] <banenan> [ 166.434721] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:42:40] <banenan> [ 166.466998] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:42:42] <banenan> [ 166.564021] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:42:43] <banenan> [ 166.567795] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:42:45] <banenan> [ 166.567909] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:42:46] <banenan> [ 234.008027] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 3
[08:42:48] <banenan> [ 234.175651] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:42:49] <banenan> [ 234.230597] input: Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input8
[08:42:51] <banenan> [ 234.230850] generic-usb 0003:054C:05C4.0005: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Gamepad [Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0
[08:42:52] <banenan> [ 268.984057] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 3
[08:42:54] <banenan> [ 278.200025] usb 3-1: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[08:42:55] <banenan> [ 278.367956] usb 3-1: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:42:57] <banenan> [ 278.420904] input: Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-1/3-1:1.0/input/input9
[08:42:59] <banenan> [ 278.421155] generic-usb 0003:054C:05C4.0006: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Gamepad [Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-1/input0
[08:43:00] <banenan> [ 330.050273] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:43:02] <banenan> [ 330.050283] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:43:03] <banenan> [ 330.050287] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:43:05] <banenan> [ 330.050378] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:43:06] <banenan> [ 330.050382] PIPELINE layers:
[08:43:08] <banenan> [ 330.050386] fdef5e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:43:09] <banenan> [ 330.050390] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:43:11] <banenan> [ 330.078970] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:43:13] <banenan> [ 330.079389] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:43:14] <banenan> [ 330.079399] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:43:16] <banenan> [ 330.079405] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:43:17] <banenan> [ 330.079409] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:43:19] <banenan> [ 330.079525] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:43:20] <banenan> [ 330.141355] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:43:24] <banenan> [ 330.224240] config string '0x378 out '
[08:43:26] <banenan> [ 331.697282] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[08:43:27] <banenan> [ 331.697287] This Message will only display once per session.
[08:43:29] <banenan> [ 331.697289] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[08:43:30] <banenan> [ 332.661747]
[08:43:32] <banenan> [ 332.661750] In recent history there were
[08:43:33] <banenan> [ 332.661752] 2656020, 2656600, 2657750, 2653610, and 2655930
[08:43:35] <banenan> [ 332.661753] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[08:43:37] <banenan> [ 332.661759] This time, there were 3718490 which is so anomalously
[08:43:38] <banenan> [ 332.661761] large that it probably signifies a problem with your
[08:43:40] <banenan> [ 332.661762] realtime configuration. For the rest of this run of
[08:43:41] <banenan> [ 332.661764] EMC, this message will be suppressed.
[08:43:43] <banenan> [ 332.661765]
[08:43:44] <banenan> [ 407.637179] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:43:46] <banenan> [ 407.675438] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:43:47] <banenan> [ 407.706186] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:43:49] <banenan> [ 407.804030] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:43:50] <banenan> [ 407.807794] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:43:52] <banenan> [ 407.807909] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:43:54] <banenan> [ 7117.768054] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 2
[08:43:55] <banenan> [ 7117.768288] usblp0: removed
[08:43:57] <banenan> [ 7642.536057] usb 3-1: USB disconnect, address 4
[08:43:58] <banenan> [ 7722.876043] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:00] <banenan> [ 7725.844024] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:01] <banenan> [ 7728.812031] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:03] <banenan> [ 7731.780030] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:04] <banenan> [ 7731.780051] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4
[08:44:06] <banenan> [ 8681.160053] hub 4-0:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[08:44:07] <banenan> [ 8681.160063] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 3
[08:44:09] <banenan> [ 8681.464023] usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 4
[08:44:10] <banenan> [ 8681.639177] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:44:12] <banenan> [ 8681.645464] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/input/input10
[08:44:13] <banenan> [ 8681.645646] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.0007: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input0
[08:44:15] <banenan> [ 8681.698193] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.1/input/input11
[08:44:16] <banenan> [ 8681.698486] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.0008: input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input1
[08:44:18] <banenan> [ 9421.576041] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:20] <banenan> [ 9424.544032] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:21] <banenan> [ 9427.512046] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:23] <banenan> [ 9430.480025] hub 1-0:1.0: Cannot enable port 4. Maybe the USB cable is bad?
[08:44:24] <banenan> [ 9430.480046] hub 1-0:1.0: unable to enumerate USB device on port 4
[08:44:26] <banenan> [ 9725.884028] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[08:44:27] <banenan> [ 9726.056200] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:44:29] <banenan> [ 9726.112178] input: Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input12
[08:44:30] <banenan> [ 9726.112422] generic-usb 0003:054C:05C4.0009: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Gamepad [Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0
[08:44:32] <banenan> [13229.232061] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 5
[08:44:33] <banenan> [13245.132021] usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 6
[08:44:35] <banenan> [13245.312204] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:44:36] <banenan> [13245.334214] input: Logitech Logitech(R) Precision(TM) Gamepad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input13
[08:44:38] <banenan> [13245.334456] generic-usb 0003:046D:C21A.000A: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [Logitech Logitech(R) Precision(TM) Gamepad] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0
[08:44:40] <banenan> [13330.873157] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:44:41] <banenan> [13330.873166] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:44:43] <banenan> [13330.873170] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:44:44] <banenan> [13330.873262] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:44:46] <banenan> [13330.873266] PIPELINE layers:
[08:44:47] <banenan> [13330.873270] fe5d5e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:44:49] <banenan> [13330.873274] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:44:50] <banenan> [13330.903556] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:44:52] <banenan> [13330.903797] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:44:53] <banenan> [13330.903807] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:44:55] <banenan> [13330.903813] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:44:56] <banenan> [13330.903817] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:44:58] <banenan> [13330.903925] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:45:00] <banenan> [13330.957223] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:45:01] <banenan> [13331.041743] config string '0x378 out '
[08:45:03] <banenan> [13331.806480] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[08:45:04] <banenan> [13331.806484] This Message will only display once per session.
[08:45:06] <banenan> [13331.806486] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[08:45:07] <banenan> [13332.730247]
[08:45:09] <banenan> [13332.730250] In recent history there were
[08:45:10] <banenan> [13332.730251] 2656000, 2656060, 2655930, 2657060, and 2656010
[08:45:12] <banenan> [13332.730253] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[08:45:13] <banenan> [13332.730259] This time, there were 3452360 which is so anomalously
[08:45:15] <banenan> [13332.730260] large that it probably signifies a problem with your
[08:45:16] <banenan> [13332.730262] realtime configuration. For the rest of this run of
[08:45:18] <banenan> [13332.730264] EMC, this message will be suppressed.
[08:45:19] <banenan> [13332.730265]
[08:45:21] <banenan> [13355.261953] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:45:23] <banenan> [13355.308720] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:45:24] <banenan> [13355.338201] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:45:26] <banenan> [13355.436023] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:45:27] <banenan> [13355.440814] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:45:29] <banenan> [13355.440917] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:45:30] <banenan> [13995.118950] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:45:32] <banenan> [13995.118960] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:45:33] <banenan> [13995.118964] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:45:35] <banenan> [13995.119056] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:45:36] <banenan> [13995.119060] PIPELINE layers:
[08:45:38] <banenan> [13995.119065] fd595e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:45:39] <banenan> [13995.119069] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:45:41] <banenan> [13995.149653] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:45:42] <banenan> [13995.149984] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:45:44] <banenan> [13995.149993] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:45:46] <banenan> [13995.149999] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:45:47] <banenan> [13995.150004] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:45:49] <banenan> [13995.150111] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:45:50] <banenan> [13995.207876] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:45:52] <banenan> [13995.318562] config string '0x378 out '
[08:45:53] <banenan> [13996.805656] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[08:45:55] <banenan> [13996.805660] This Message will only display once per session.
[08:45:56] <banenan> [13996.805662] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[08:45:58] <banenan> [13997.685623]
[08:45:59] <jthornton> did he stop?
[08:45:59] <banenan> [13997.685626] In recent history there were
[08:46:01] <banenan> [13997.685628] 2655460, 2654630, 2657730, 2656370, and 2655190
[08:46:03] <banenan> [13997.685630] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[08:46:04] <banenan> [13997.685635] This time, there were 3715500 which is so anomalously
[08:46:06] <banenan> [13997.685637] large that it probably signifies a problem with your
[08:46:07] <banenan> [13997.685639] realtime configuration. For the rest of this run of
[08:46:09] <banenan> [13997.685641] EMC, this message will be suppressed.
[08:46:10] <banenan> [13997.685642]
[08:46:12] <banenan> [14572.152137] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 6
[08:46:13] <banenan> [14589.257796] usb 3-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 7
[08:46:15] <banenan> [14589.430006] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:46:15] <archivist> if he had half a brain cell he should have killed his session
[08:46:16] <banenan> [14589.483965] input: Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input14
[08:46:18] <banenan> [14589.484249] generic-usb 0003:054C:05C4.000B: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.11 Gamepad [Sony Computer Entertainment Wireless Controller] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0
[08:46:19] <banenan> [14616.117947] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:46:21] <banenan> [14616.170344] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:46:23] <banenan> [14616.200407] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:46:24] <banenan> [14616.300024] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:46:26] <banenan> [14616.304402] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:46:27] <banenan> [14616.304507] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:46:29] <banenan> [14618.187186] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:46:30] <banenan> [14618.187195] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:46:32] <banenan> [14618.187199] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:46:33] <banenan> [14618.187297] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:46:35] <banenan> [14618.187301] PIPELINE layers:
[08:46:37] <banenan> [14618.187306] ff555e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:46:38] <banenan> [14618.187310] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:46:40] <banenan> [14618.216011] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:46:42] <banenan> [14618.216333] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:46:43] <banenan> [14618.216343] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:46:45] <banenan> [14618.216349] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:46:46] <banenan> [14618.216353] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:46:48] <banenan> [14618.216460] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:46:49] <banenan> [14618.278361] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:46:51] <banenan> [14618.378251] config string '0x378 out '
[08:46:52] <banenan> [14619.354055] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:46:54] <banenan> [14619.394713] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:46:55] <banenan> [14619.424412] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:46:57] <banenan> [14619.524017] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:46:59] <banenan> [14619.527630] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:47:00] <banenan> [14619.527745] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:47:02] <banenan> [14653.000067] usb 3-2: USB disconnect, address 7
[08:47:03] <banenan> [14659.008025] usb 3-2: new low speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 8
[08:47:05] <banenan> [14659.188200] usb 3-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:47:06] <banenan> [14659.209205] input: Logitech Logitech(R) Precision(TM) Gamepad as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.1/usb3/3-2/3-2:1.0/input/input15
[08:47:08] <banenan> [14659.209440] generic-usb 0003:046D:C21A.000C: input,hidraw4: USB HID v1.10 Joystick [Logitech Logitech(R) Precision(TM) Gamepad] on usb-0000:00:1d.1-2/input0
[08:47:09] <banenan> [14663.888643] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:47:11] <banenan> [14663.888653] RTAI[hal]: <3.8.1> mounted over IPIPE-NOTHREADS 2.6-03.
[08:47:12] <banenan> [14663.888657] RTAI[hal]: compiled with gcc version 4.4.3 (Ubuntu 4.4.3-4ubuntu5) .
[08:47:14] <banenan> [14663.888749] RTAI[hal]: mounted (IPIPE-NOTHREADS, IMMEDIATE (INTERNAL IRQs DISPATCHED), ISOL_CPUS_MASK: 0).
[08:47:16] <banenan> [14663.888752] PIPELINE layers:
[08:47:17] <banenan> [14663.888757] fd430e20 9ac15d93 RTAI 200
[08:47:19] <banenan> [14663.888761] c085cb20 0 Linux 100
[08:47:20] <banenan> [14663.917492] RTAI[malloc]: global heap size = 2097152 bytes, <BSD>.
[08:47:22] <banenan> [14663.917949] RTAI[sched]: IMMEDIATE, MP, USER/KERNEL SPACE: <with RTAI OWN KTASKs>, kstacks pool size = 524288 bytes.
[08:47:23] <banenan> [14663.917959] RTAI[sched]: hard timer type/freq = APIC/8312480(Hz); default timing: periodic; linear timed lists.
[08:47:25] <banenan> [14663.917965] RTAI[sched]: Linux timer freq = 250 (Hz), TimeBase freq = 2660036000 hz.
[08:47:26] <banenan> [14663.917969] RTAI[sched]: timer setup = 999 ns, resched latency = 2943 ns.
[08:47:28] <banenan> [14663.918085] RTAI[usi]: enabled.
[08:47:30] <banenan> [14663.979027] RTAI[math]: loaded.
[08:47:32] <banenan> [14664.076564] config string '0x378 out '
[08:47:33] <banenan> [14665.569007] RTAPI: ERROR: Unexpected realtime delay on task 1
[08:47:35] <banenan> [14665.569011] This Message will only display once per session.
[08:47:36] <banenan> [14665.569013] Run the Latency Test and resolve before continuing.
[08:47:38] <banenan> [14665.569020]
[08:47:39] <banenan> [14665.569020] In recent history there were
[08:47:41] <banenan> [14665.569020] 2652360, 2652830, 2656630, 2656810, and 2657490
[08:47:43] <banenan> [14665.569020] elapsed clocks between calls to the motion controller.
[08:47:45] <banenan> [14665.569020] This time, there were 3457030 which is so anomalously
[08:47:46] <banenan> [14665.569020] large that it probably signifies a problem with your
[08:47:48] <banenan> [14665.569020] realtime configuration. For the rest of this run of
[08:47:50] <banenan> [14665.569020] EMC, this message will be suppressed.
[08:47:51] <banenan> [14665.569020]
[08:47:53] <banenan> [14714.257077] hub 4-0:1.0: port 2 disabled by hub (EMI?), re-enabling...
[08:47:54] <banenan> [14714.257087] usb 4-2: USB disconnect, address 4
[08:47:56] <banenan> [14714.560089] usb 4-2: new full speed USB device using uhci_hcd and address 5
[08:47:57] <banenan> [14714.732797] usb 4-2: configuration #1 chosen from 1 choice
[08:47:59] <banenan> [14714.740497] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.0/input/input16
[08:48:00] <banenan> [14714.740714] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.000D: input,hidraw2: USB HID v1.10 Keyboard [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input0
[08:48:02] <banenan> [14714.799796] input: WFDZ Gaming Keyboard as /devices/pci0000:00/0000:00:1d.2/usb4/4-2/4-2:1.1/input/input17
[08:48:03] <banenan> [14714.800460] generic-usb 0003:1EA7:2002.000E: input,hiddev97,hidraw3: USB HID v1.10 Mouse [WFDZ Gaming Keyboard] on usb-0000:00:1d.2-2/input1
[08:48:05] <banenan> [15189.189334] RTAI[math]: unloaded.
[08:48:06] <banenan> [15189.238578] SCHED releases registered named ALIEN RTGLBH
[08:48:08] <banenan> [15189.268407] RTAI[malloc]: unloaded.
[08:48:09] <banenan> [15189.368022] RTAI[sched]: unloaded (forced hard/soft/hard transitions: traps 0, syscalls 0).
[08:48:11] <banenan> [15189.372975] I-pipe: Domain RTAI unregistered.
[08:48:12] <banenan> [15189.373097] RTAI[hal]: unmounted.
[08:48:14] <banenan> [15191.159513] I-pipe: Domain RTAI registered.
[08:53:07] <_methods> nice
[09:19:06] <IchGucksLive> hi
[09:19:15] <IchGucksLive> someone spammed the channel
[09:20:04] <IchGucksLive> banenan
[09:20:56] <IchGucksLive> and ghe is german
[09:21:15] <IchGucksLive> BIST DU NOCH DA ?
[10:11:50] <IchGucksLive> im off toll 7pm Berlin time
[10:30:04] <zeeshan> so rebuilding my hydraulic pump's induction motor
[10:30:13] <zeeshan> its got 0.016" of end play!
[10:30:16] <zeeshan> doesn't seem right :/
[10:30:19] <Experimentierfre> hallo hat jemand kurz zeit mir n tipp zu geben ? hab probleme mit rtapi error realtime delay
[10:33:19] <Tom_itx> zeeshan is this turning into a forever project?
[10:33:47] <zeeshan> yea, prolly will take a year or two
[10:34:11] <zeeshan> whats the rush
[10:34:15] <Tom_itx> the bearings are bound to be worn
[10:34:20] <zeeshan> i replaced them
[10:34:41] <Tom_itx> with the same precision bearings?
[10:34:45] <zeeshan> yes
[10:34:53] <zeeshan> nachi bearings replaced with nachi bearings
[10:35:03] <zeeshan> even when changing bearings on transmissions
[10:35:04] <Tom_itx> what was it before you took it apart?
[10:35:06] <zeeshan> theres always some movement
[10:35:26] <zeeshan> i had to preload mine
[10:35:29] <zeeshan> around 0.001"
[10:35:46] <zeeshan> somewhere around -0.001 clearance
[10:35:52] <zeeshan> cause heat would expand them into spec
[10:35:58] <zeeshan> Tom_itx: i didnt check :)
[10:36:05] <zeeshan> but 0.016" end play can't be right
[10:36:16] <zeeshan> i've held a lot of different motors!
[10:36:49] <zeeshan> right now there is a 0.040 and 0.016" shim that was there factory
[10:36:58] <zeeshan> im going to try to make a 0.072" shim
[10:39:31] <Tom_itx> how's the pump look?
[10:40:43] <nubcake> does linuxcnc run decent on a raspberry pi gen. 3 ? has anyone ever tried that?
[10:41:34] <zeeshan> pump looks great
[10:41:42] <zeeshan> at least all the individual components
[10:42:32] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-32.jpg
[10:42:33] <JT-Shop> http://gnipsel.com/images/equipment-shed/e-shed-33.jpg
[10:51:16] <Experimentierfre> net joy-x-jog halui.jog.0.analog <= input.0.abs-x-position is for analog how can i put a button on the direktion ? i dont have analog sticks
[10:53:22] <JT-Shop2> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/2.7/html/man/man1/halui.1.html
[10:54:29] <Experimentierfre> perfect thanks
[11:16:53] <Tom_itx> JT-Shop, what's that for?
[11:18:54] <Tom_itx> keep the insul from sagging?
[11:21:53] <JT-Shop2> that's my false truss so I have something to staple the itch to
[11:26:19] <Tom_itx> looks like you've got a few to go
[11:28:17] <archivist> there are some non itch insulations (rock wool)
[11:31:30] <JT-Shop2> yea 3/4ths left to go
[11:32:22] <JT-Shop2> I plan on using rock wool in my powder coat oven
[11:32:40] <Tom_itx> is that going out there?
[11:32:53] <JT-Shop2> yea, more room out here
[11:33:26] <JT-Shop2> make it from 2x6 metal studs and put it on wheels!
[11:44:40] <Deejay> namd
[12:13:34] <MacGalempsy> hey guys
[12:14:24] <MacGalempsy> Wolf_ how is the probe stuff working out?
[12:14:44] <Wolf_> seems to work
[12:15:17] <MacGalempsy> nice. any estimate on trigger distance?
[12:15:36] <Wolf_> that part, nope
[12:16:17] <MacGalempsy> did the mi5 work?
[12:16:38] <Wolf_> it does
[12:17:21] <MacGalempsy> how did your arduino results compare?
[12:17:42] <Wolf_> I don’t have a mill here
[12:17:52] <MacGalempsy> ah. ok
[12:17:54] <Wolf_> so I can’t test lol
[12:18:01] <MacGalempsy> dang!
[12:19:19] <Wolf_> last night was getting clamps http://i.imgur.com/mJh9q2p.jpg
[12:19:46] <MacGalempsy> score.
[12:20:28] <MacGalempsy> i pulled the boards off my mill last night to make the new circuit fit. so its all dewired
[12:21:04] <MacGalempsy> cant decide if i should use a wood panel or get some lexan
[12:22:25] <MacGalempsy> the wood worries me
[12:23:00] <archivist> metal box, defend against stuff flying off the mill
[12:23:58] <MacGalempsy> https://flic.kr/p/i3UhM8
[12:24:26] <MacGalempsy> it will mount on the left, so its just a panel in the box
[12:24:41] <MacGalempsy> fire was my worry
[12:25:41] <Wolf_> wood, if you are worried about fire, alum or steel plate
[12:26:01] <IchGucksLive> hi
[12:26:12] <MacGalempsy> i do like the alum idea.
[12:26:20] <Wolf_> you mean panel as something to mount everything to right?
[12:28:33] <IchGucksLive> lots of germans today
[12:29:19] <MacGalempsy> yeah.
[12:30:02] <MacGalempsy> relays, terminal blocks, din rails, mesas, etc...
[12:38:48] <Wolf_> so, anyone know what this might be for? http://i.imgur.com/Gz2OHhl.jpg
[12:39:47] <archivist> look up the paten number!
[12:41:36] <archivist> paint robot
[12:41:59] <Wolf_> already knew its part of a paint robot
[12:42:56] <archivist> well the patent mentions the electrostatics, so probably the high voltage thing
[12:43:22] <Wolf_> its all air fittings
[12:43:42] <archivist> ah also mentions the colour switching
[12:43:50] <archivist> https://www.google.ch/patents/US4785760
[12:44:02] <Wolf_> hint, came from a GM auto plant
[12:44:45] <archivist> its the colour switch as each body is a different colour
[12:45:35] <MacGalempsy> cool. so what are you going to use it for?
[12:46:18] <Wolf_> not mine, one of the of things the surplus guy has
[12:46:33] <MacGalempsy> ah.
[12:47:59] <archivist> rummaged around, found a keyboard, wired it up, effin dead key on it.....
[12:48:13] <IchGucksLive> servus Holzwurm
[12:48:31] <Holzwurm> Hello, i want to start a cycle with an external switch and write in the hal:"net cycle-start <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-03", that doesn't work, Whats my mistake
[12:49:10] <archivist> we cant see the error message
[12:49:25] <archivist> you best read it
[12:49:35] <Wolf_> http://imgur.com/a/vU17K is a small scratch in to what the guy has…
[12:49:50] <banenan> hi where can i find the config of the output pins in linuxcnc
[12:50:15] <Holzwurm> There is no error message, the machine doesn't start
[12:51:16] <pcw_home> cycle-start is just a signal, it need to be connected to a pin that actually starts a cycle
[12:51:53] <MacGalempsy> banenan http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/hal/halshow.html
[12:52:31] <pcw_home> net some-old-wire <= hm2_5i25.0.7i77.0.0.input-03
[12:52:33] <pcw_home> is 100% equivalent and will also not do anything by itself
[12:55:01] <IchGucksLive> banenan: German ?
[12:56:24] <banenan> ja :)
[12:56:34] <banenan> aber voll der anfänger erst seid gestern bei
[12:56:38] <IchGucksLive> drück mal doppel auf meien namen
[12:58:28] <pcw_home> Holzwurm: net statements work like this:
[12:58:30] <pcw_home> net wire-name pin [pin] [pin] [pin]
[12:58:31] <pcw_home> the wire-name is not meaningful beyond being a vehicle for connecting different pins
[13:20:03] <Deejay> re
[13:20:32] <IchGucksLive> Deejay: nur seutsche heute
[13:28:35] <IchGucksLive> im off Gn8
[14:35:40] <MacGalempsy> the ##electronics channel is crackin me up today.
[14:35:42] <roycroft> there is a guy, john thorton, who posts on the emc mailing list frequently, and who runs a site called mesaus.com
[14:35:56] <MacGalempsy> yeah that is JT
[14:36:09] <roycroft> if i were to purchase mesanet parts from him, does anyone know if mesanet honors the warranty on them?
[14:36:21] <Tom_itx> i would bet they do
[14:36:32] <Tom_itx> they're both here why not ask
[14:36:47] <roycroft> i think i am :)
[14:37:20] <Wolf_> only problem is which JT nick to ping lol
[14:37:22] <MacGalempsy> you can reach JT at 4 different logins here. lol
[14:37:38] <roycroft> one of the jt nicks is active frequently
[14:37:49] <roycroft> if i don't see a response in a while i'll wait 'til i see him active
[14:37:58] <MacGalempsy> pcw_home: any wiegh-in on the warranty situation?
[14:38:01] <Tom_itx> he's probably burried in itch right now
[14:38:07] <roycroft> it would be more convenient ordering through him than through mesanet
[14:38:59] <MacGalempsy> im curious if there is an ethernet version of the 5i25?
[14:39:11] <roycroft> i believe there is an equivalent
[14:39:15] <Wolf_> 7i92
[14:39:18] <Wolf_> i think
[14:39:27] <roycroft> iirc it costs about $100 more
[14:40:07] <Wolf_> least the plan I have is 7i92 ethernet + a 7i77 servo board
[14:40:25] <roycroft> not 7i76e?
[14:40:27] <MacGalempsy> I use the 5i25/7177/7i84
[14:40:49] <Wolf_> roycroft: my servo drives are not step/dir
[14:41:02] <roycroft> i'm looking at a 5i25/7i76 combo
[14:41:21] <roycroft> i'll be using steppers on this build
[14:41:41] <MacGalempsy> roycroft: I think the 7i76 is for steppers. if you use analog servos its the 7i77
[14:41:42] <roycroft> i'm not convinced that steppers are a drawback for a small milling machine
[14:41:53] <Wolf_> its not IMO
[14:42:01] <roycroft> and my thinking is to use steppers for this, and then servos for my next build
[14:42:07] <roycroft> and then i will have experience with both
[14:42:15] <Wolf_> but servos on a plasma table on the other hand with fast rapids…
[14:42:27] <roycroft> as in almost any field, there is a lot of religion in the cnc world
[14:42:35] <roycroft> which makes it difficult to digest information
[14:42:53] <Wolf_> yeah, so many options for this stuff
[14:43:01] <MacGalempsy> blasphemy! say 10 hail servos and make a gracious offering, then only will you be forgiven
[14:43:10] <roycroft> my strategy is to mentally tune out anyone who makes absolute statements such as "any real cnc machine uses servos"
[14:43:16] <roycroft> which i've heard many, many times
[14:43:44] <roycroft> if i wanted religion i'd go back and stir up the emcas vs. vi wars again
[14:43:46] <roycroft> emacs
[14:43:47] <Wolf_> really its most hobby machines use steppers, commercial use servos
[14:43:47] <Tom_itx> steppers have speed limits
[14:43:50] <MacGalempsy> I think it comes down to the resolution and budget
[14:44:25] <roycroft> and when i have a machine whose x axis (the longest) can travel about 15" the potential speed advantage of a servo is mooot
[14:44:30] <MacGalempsy> like, my machine came with servos, so that is what I am learning with.
[14:44:30] <Wolf_> servos add fault indication
[14:45:09] <roycroft> i think it's important i evaluate both
[14:45:37] <roycroft> religion shopping is difficult, and the consequences can be dire
[14:46:07] <roycroft> the speed issue, btw, is why i chose to get a 48v power supply for my motors
[14:46:13] <roycroft> vs. a lower voltage ps
[14:46:50] <Tom_itx> same here
[14:47:31] <Wolf_> my x1 micro mill is running nema 23 420oz inch steppers and 40v psu =D
[14:47:44] <Wolf_> I see no problem with overkill
[14:47:46] <roycroft> i'm doing an x3
[14:48:01] <roycroft> and i'm thinking of ~400oz/in steppers for the x and y
[14:48:05] <roycroft> possibly the same for z
[14:48:17] <roycroft> but i might use a more powerful nema34 for z
[14:48:19] <roycroft> i'm not sure yet
[14:48:25] <roycroft> i haven't decided what to do about z
[14:48:44] <Tom_itx> i'd recomend those good gecko drives though over the 540
[14:48:45] <roycroft> i also am going to completely disassemble the machine and lap/scrape the ways and gibs before i decide
[14:48:51] <Wolf_> and x2 is using same, n23 420oz/in and ball screws on all 3, plus z axis counter balance
[14:49:38] <roycroft> i've already decided to use the 7i76 with a stand-alone field power supply instead of the g540
[14:50:07] <Wolf_> I’m using shitty chinese drivers cause cheap
[14:50:19] <Wolf_> they max out at 40v so I’m at a wall there
[14:50:50] <roycroft> i'm leaning towards g201x
[14:51:37] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/Mfk4r3h.jpg
[14:51:48] <Wolf_> I have the stuff stocked up already so...
[14:51:59] <roycroft> from what i am reading, the main advantage of the g210x over the g201x is more microstepping options
[14:52:26] <roycroft> and the g201x does 10 microstepping, which is what i plan on doing
[14:52:47] <Tom_itx> i think it's similar to the 203v with less protection
[14:53:14] <roycroft> since i'll be using a 7i76 i don't see the need for the additional protective circuitry of the g203v
[14:53:57] <roycroft> g201x is 10 microsteps, no protection
[14:54:08] <roycroft> g203v is 10 microsteps, with the protection circuitry
[14:54:13] <Tom_itx> that's what i figured
[14:54:16] <roycroft> g210x is like the g201x but has more stepping options
[14:54:30] <roycroft> g213v is like the g213v but has more stepping options
[14:54:38] <roycroft> er, like the g203v
[14:55:06] <roycroft> so i'll probably pick up 3 g201x soon, with a spare shortly thereafter
[14:55:11] <Wolf_> MB450A stepper drivers here, they do 200 up to 25600 step/rev
[14:55:16] <roycroft> i'm working my way out from the computer to the machine
[14:55:23] <roycroft> so mesanet blade first
[14:56:15] <roycroft> it's going to be at least two months before i can shoot paint on anything
[14:56:22] <roycroft> since it's cold
[14:56:43] <roycroft> i'll be painting the electronics cart and the enclosures and stuff
[14:56:49] <Wolf_> mine x2 is a pile of parts on a bench for 2 years now lol
[14:56:52] <roycroft> but i can start assembling parts in the meantime and doing some preliminary testing
[14:57:06] <roycroft> and i can start the lapping/scraping of the mill
[14:57:24] <roycroft> i've discussed this before here, but the z axis on my machine is problematic
[14:57:28] <Tom_itx> i went with a 7i90
[14:57:39] <Tom_itx> with a daughter card
[14:57:43] <roycroft> i have a lot of vibration if i don't lock the head down in place while machining
[14:57:57] <roycroft> so i have to set the head, lock it down, and do all z movement with the quill
[14:58:04] <Tom_itx> parport to the control
[14:58:05] <roycroft> that's not acceptable for me for cnc
[14:58:32] <roycroft> i'm hoping that if i lap/scrape the gib and ways sufficiently i can tighten the gib to eliminate that vibration without having to lock the head down
[14:59:10] <roycroft> my computer does fine with the jitter test
[14:59:20] <roycroft> i forget the numbers - it's been a long time since i tested
[14:59:38] <roycroft> i bought an atom-based system board based on a recommendation from this channel, and it works as well as it was suggested
[14:59:50] <roycroft> but i think the 5i25 is a good idea anyway
[15:00:26] <Wolf_> damn, that x3 has a stout looking column
[15:00:31] <roycroft> i'm in the 'build it right the first time' school
[15:00:53] <roycroft> but i'm not in the 'piss money down the drain needlessly' school
[15:01:03] <roycroft> at least i try not to be
[15:01:39] <roycroft> but out of a total cost of probably about $3k for the machine and cnc conversion, an extra $100 for a 5i25 is nothing
[15:02:45] <roycroft> it's actually 3.3%
[15:02:51] <roycroft> which is still essentially nothing
[15:03:20] <roycroft> although 3.3% here and 3.3% there add up to something pretty quickly
[15:04:13] <roycroft> that mb450a is pretty cheap, and rated to 50v
[15:04:48] <Wolf_> hmm, might be my steppers that are 40v rated…
[15:04:58] <Wolf_> something had a 40v max iirc lol
[15:04:59] <roycroft> i like the extra overhead that the 80v rated gecko drivers offer though
[15:05:06] <roycroft> especially since i'm at 52.3 volts
[15:05:55] <Wolf_> http://www.siegind.com/products_detail/productId=49.html is what I’m putting together for the most part
[15:05:56] <roycroft> gecko make a big deal out of even slight overvoltage blowing up their drives
[15:06:40] <Wolf_> except that I’m using a 750w BLDC motor
[15:09:47] <roycroft> what about keling technology drivers?
[15:10:07] <roycroft> i've seen them discussed quite a bit, but i don't have a sense of whether they are decent or not
[15:10:16] <roycroft> they're a lot less expensive then the gecko drivers
[15:11:00] <roycroft> 80v digital driver with heat sink for $99
[15:11:16] <Wolf_> nice, I think I’m under $1500 on my x2 build after looking at parts orders lol
[15:11:18] <roycroft> vs. $129 for a simliar gecko without the heat sink
[15:12:40] <MacGalempsy> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Light-Machines-BENCHMAN-VMC4000-CNC-Milling-Machine-T86312-/282273862973?hash=item41b8d5553d:g:suQAAOSwtnpXqQmu
[15:12:58] <roycroft> actually, they're more similar to the gecko g210x, which are $147 each
[15:13:03] <MacGalempsy> still available, and all it needs to convert is a 5i25/7i77
[15:22:09] <roycroft> well, my garage shop has probably warmed up as much as it's going to today
[15:22:22] <roycroft> i should go out and see how well i can tolerate working in the cold
[15:31:14] <MacGalempsy> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Southbend-cnc-magnaturn-lathe-/142244910598?hash=item211e751606:g:xawAAOSw2xRYat6n
[15:31:33] <MacGalempsy> damn new fan jacked up the zsensor!
[15:33:30] <BeachBumPete> Damn that is a sweet little machine ;)
[15:33:43] <MacGalempsy> yeah. the price break is excellent
[15:34:29] <MacGalempsy> cant tell if it has a tool changer
[15:35:29] <BeachBumPete> would suck if it didn't
[15:35:40] <MacGalempsy> yeah. it kind of looks like it does
[15:36:06] <MacGalempsy> why is all the good stuff 1000 miles away?
[15:44:39] <JT-Shop2> yea that's a haul to SC and back for us
[15:57:26] <roycroft> jt-shop2
[15:57:31] <roycroft> did you see my question above?
[16:11:55] * jymmm welding is AWESEOME!!!
[16:12:21] <jymmm> silly autocorrect... AWFUL!!!!
[16:12:25] <jymmm> lol
[16:17:15] <andypugh> So, what did I miss :-)
[16:17:57] <andypugh> (I have been skiing in the Alps, sadly on the week that ended just as the snow finally arrived)
[16:23:20] <XXCoder> booo
[16:23:52] <XXCoder> looks like week of washingtonian foreverain
[16:24:15] <XXCoder> looks like here have offically arrived other side of winter
[16:24:45] <jymmm> andypugh: you only missed my shitty welding =)
[16:25:19] <andypugh> That’s an odd choice of material to weld.
[16:26:01] <jymmm> andypugh: And it would STILL look better than what I've done =)
[16:26:12] <Wolf_> what welding rod for shit welding?
[16:26:32] <jymmm> Wolf_: Harbor Freight wire welding $89
[16:26:57] <Wolf_> $89?
[16:27:52] <jymmm> Wolf_: did I sputter?!
[16:28:17] <jymmm> Wolf_: My bad... $88 http://www.harborfreight.com/120-amp-flux-welder-61849.html
[16:28:35] <Wolf_> oh thats the whole welder cost lmao
[16:28:46] <jymmm> yeppers =)
[16:28:53] <Tom_itx> you coulduv used an extension cord and gotten just as good results :D
[16:29:01] <Wolf_> I think the wire I use cost more lol
[16:29:07] <jymmm> borrowed the enighbors actually
[16:29:13] <andypugh> flux-core wire can be the right choice if you are welding where it is windy (ie, not indoors)
[16:29:31] <Tom_itx> don't you have to reverse polarity when you use flux core?
[16:29:57] <Wolf_> not if its a flux core only box
[16:30:11] <andypugh> No idea, I only really use TIG.
[16:30:47] <Wolf_> Best in class duty cycle: 20% @ 90 amps << lmao
[16:31:17] <Wolf_> wonders wtf else is in that “class”
[16:32:19] <jymmm> andypugh: It's ALL outdoor welding, but really no wind to deal with
[16:33:04] <jymmm> Wolf_: Tom_itx's extension cord welder is in that class.
[16:33:35] <Wolf_> wire I feed my mig $79.20/spool
[16:37:32] * JT-Shop2 reads back to see what roycroft said
[16:39:34] <JT-Shop2> roycroft: no, I missed the question
[17:04:08] <Deejay> gn8
[17:54:55] <JT-Shop2> hanging of the itch goes slower as it gets later...
[17:55:34] <XXCoder> ?
[17:56:13] <roycroft> jt-shop2
[17:56:36] <roycroft> if i buy some mesanet gear from you and it fails, do they honor the warranty?
[18:00:35] <JT-Shop2> yep
[18:00:42] <JT-Shop2> that's no problem
[18:01:01] <JT-Shop2> it's only happened once in the year I've been selling them
[18:01:14] <roycroft> thanks
[18:01:16] <roycroft> i figured that was the case, but i have to do my due diligence before making purchases
[18:01:21] <roycroft> i don't anticipate any problems
[18:01:23] <roycroft> but one never knows
[18:01:40] <JT-Shop2> yep
[18:01:40] <DaViruz> JT-Shop2: do you ship internationally?
[18:01:45] <JT-Shop2> yep
[18:02:14] <DaViruz> i see!
[18:02:34] <JT-Shop2> I ship everywhere and you might note that first class gets there just as quick as priority does lol but a lot more cost effective
[18:02:47] <JT-Shop2> I ship quick too!
[18:03:02] <roycroft> i can pay you with paypal
[18:03:02] <XXCoder> yeah its already on way ;)
[18:03:07] <roycroft> which is not the case with mesanet directly
[18:03:12] <JT-Shop2> XXCoder: hanging insulation in the roof and I'm getting tired
[18:03:28] <DaViruz> shipping to sweden from mesa is quite.. epensive
[18:03:30] <JT-Shop2> yes I use paypal to take either CC or paypal
[18:03:33] <roycroft> plus, if i buy my stuff from you i can guilt-trip you into answering a question once in a while :P
[18:03:42] <JT-Shop2> usually lol
[18:03:59] <JT-Shop2> DaViruz: shipping to sweden is cheap from me
[18:04:04] <roycroft> i'm not shy about asking questions anyway
[18:04:16] <roycroft> nor belligerent when they go unanswered
[18:04:23] <roycroft> i just keep asking and eventually someone will answer
[18:04:27] <DaViruz> JT-Shop2: wish i'd known about you three weeks ago then :)
[18:04:46] <DaViruz> it seems i have another waterjet retrofit coming up though
[18:04:54] <roycroft> i've known about your store
[18:04:55] <JT-Shop2> DaViruz: did you see my pm
[18:05:06] <roycroft> i just did not know before that you were the guy who owns it
[18:05:34] <roycroft> knowing that makes it easier to buy from you
[18:05:53] <roycroft> i can shame you publicly if anything goes wrong with the transaction :)
[18:05:58] <JT-Shop2> yep that's me :)
[18:06:24] <roycroft> i should probably order my mesa stuff then
[18:06:36] <JT-Shop2> nothing ever goes wrong that I can't fix :)
[18:06:54] <roycroft> i'm not worried
[18:06:56] <roycroft> just having a little fun
[18:07:45] <roycroft> my only concern was the warranty thing, and i anticipated you were an authorized reseller, or had some other arrangement for them to honor warranty
[18:10:16] <roycroft> so you normally ship usps?
[18:11:51] <JT-Shop2> yea usps is the most cost effective way to ship
[18:13:23] <roycroft> i just need to know what address to use for shipping
[18:13:40] <JT-Shop2> that does help to know :)
[18:13:57] <roycroft> you should have a secure certificate for your website
[18:14:16] <JT-Shop2> I thought I did
[18:14:36] <roycroft> the account registration and checkout are not secure
[18:15:14] <JT-Shop2> hmm, I wonder how I need to fix that
[18:15:42] <roycroft> i prefer not to put personal information in a non-secure page like that, but at least i'm not giving you financial info that way
[18:16:24] <JT-Shop2> yea, I'll see about fixing that, how did you tell it was not secure?
[18:16:37] <roycroft> i'm paranoid, and i always check my browser :)
[18:16:51] <roycroft> i run an isp, and deal with internet security issues on a daily basis
[18:17:32] <JT-Shop2> I see, let me wander into the shop and see what webhost4life says
[18:17:43] <roycroft> if you get it fixed i'll change my password
[18:17:47] <roycroft> s/if/when/
[18:18:48] <roycroft> anyway, i was able to place the order
[18:18:57] <roycroft> so one more step closer to my cnc conversion :)
[18:21:15] <JT-Shop> cool, my elderberry yeast should arrive in a few days looking forward to making a couple of batches
[18:22:53] <roycroft> i'm heading out right now to work on my brewery control panel
[18:23:03] <roycroft> it's been so cold i've hardly worked on it at all in weeks
[18:23:22] <roycroft> i just can't stand out in my garage shop when it's barely above freezing and crimp/route/install wiring
[18:23:31] <roycroft> my hands get numb quickly
[18:23:31] <JT-Shop> you need at least 2 DIN rail mounts for the 7i76
[18:23:48] <roycroft> that i'm getting slightly arthritic already does not help
[18:24:42] <roycroft> that is actually helping my cnc conversion along though - the time i would be spending in the shop i am spending doing research/design work
[18:28:27] <JT-Shop> thanks for the tip on securing my site, I'll quiz them in the morning
[18:28:35] * JT-Shop heads inside
[18:33:33] <roycroft> no problem
[18:33:39] <roycroft> and if you ever need cheap ssl certs let me know :)
[18:34:23] <JT-Shop> of course I need a cheap ssl cert
[18:34:43] <JT-Shop> did you see my comment about the DIN rail mount?
[18:34:50] <roycroft> yes
[18:34:55] <roycroft> and i responded to your email
[18:35:05] <roycroft> thanks for pointing that out
[18:36:23] <JT-Shop> I do a sanity check on all orders
[18:36:37] <roycroft> as soon as you said it it made sense
[18:36:41] <roycroft> one at each end
[18:36:45] * JT-Shop heads inside to start dinner
[18:36:48] <JT-Shop> yea
[18:36:54] <JT-Shop> some use more
[19:28:25] <malcom2073> Did some linuxcnc 2.7 milling tonight: https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15977117_1513669251980784_8247254918367045180_n.jpg?oh=4229b68adabfb4ba8ac0c08c56f1536e&oe=590D7C90
[19:30:51] <malcom2073> Discovered quite a few differences in operation between the old old version I was using and 2.7 heh
[19:31:06] <malcom2073> But it was good practice to get familiar with the new version, and it works great
[20:03:50] <MacGalempsy> andypugh: that x-Intelitek Engineer user in the forums sounds like the man
[20:06:39] <MacGalempsy> just a little too late
[20:11:07] <pfred1> well I'll never know how I got it to work, but I got it to work http://i.imgur.com/w1eitz3.png
[20:12:13] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: [19:59:24] <malcom2073> Did some linuxcnc 2.7 milling tonight: https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/15977117_1513669251980784_8247254918367045180_n.jpg?oh=4229b68adabfb4ba8ac0c08c56f1536e&oe=590D7C90
[20:12:32] <malcom2073> pfred1: Looks nice!
[20:12:35] <XXCoder> what differences?
[20:12:40] <pfred1> malcom2073 thanks
[20:12:49] <malcom2073> I really want to get into pcb stuff someday
[20:13:32] <pfred1> that's KiCAD 4.0.2 running on Debian Wheezy
[20:13:45] <MacGalempsy> the finish looks good. I saw them on FB and was wondering (in spanish) What is that?
[20:13:53] <pfred1> I want to see if i can get a later version to build now
[20:13:56] <MacGalempsy> so you are making growlights?
[20:14:52] <malcom2073> Yeah, individual versions of this: https://scontent.fphl2-1.fna.fbcdn.net/v/t31.0-8/13029589_1261348340546211_5821059635642762367_o.jpg?oh=a3b05de31d52308933a061df083ae1da&oe=590CDB72
[20:15:21] <pfred1> big COBs
[20:15:41] <malcom2073> Yep, they go up to 200W in that package, these are 30W though
[20:16:03] <pfred1> that a can of PB Blaster?
[20:16:11] <pfred1> oh yes it is
[20:16:19] <malcom2073> Hah you know it
[20:16:26] <pfred1> PB baby yeah
[20:16:36] <pfred1> it used to be better
[20:16:45] <MacGalempsy> what are the new ones rated?
[20:16:51] <pfred1> back when if you inhaled it you thought you were gonna die
[20:17:11] <malcom2073> MacGalempsy: The individuals are gonna run 100w ones
[20:17:19] <malcom2073> Making a dual package too, for dual 100's
[20:17:27] <MacGalempsy> sweet.
[20:20:26] <MacGalempsy> can you cut some thin fins on the backside to help cooling?
[20:20:47] <malcom2073> The idea is to transfer the heat to the water, not the air
[20:26:42] <MacGalempsy> pid flow rate?
[20:27:25] <pfred1> piddle flow rate
[20:29:13] <XXCoder> pudding flow rate
[20:29:35] <MacGalempsy> after that Cowboy game, puking flow rate
[20:29:39] <malcom2073> Nah, flows as fast as possible
[20:29:47] <malcom2073> Much like the cowboys fans puke
[20:30:11] <XXCoder> wouldnt know, havent scienfically tested cowboys fan puke speed
[20:30:14] <MacGalempsy> Q=-KA(dh/dl)
[20:30:32] <MacGalempsy> Darcey's Law :)
[20:30:55] <pfred1> yeah it wasn't pretty but my Packers won
[20:31:06] <pfred1> running the table
[20:31:08] <MacGalempsy> but when going at maximum warp, full speed ahead
[20:32:17] <XXCoder> luciois speed!
[20:32:25] <XXCoder> cant spell that damned word
[20:32:32] <XXCoder> from space balls.
[20:32:36] <XXCoder> "they went plaid!"
[20:32:40] <MacGalempsy> thats cuz its so ludicrious!
[20:32:45] <MacGalempsy> lol
[20:32:53] <XXCoder> :D
[20:34:27] <MacGalempsy> Comb the desert!
[20:34:38] <XXCoder> I'm my own best friend!
[20:35:59] <MacGalempsy> is that now now? or then now?
[20:36:07] <MacGalempsy> just fast forward
[20:36:20] <XXCoder> heh took me a second to recall that
[20:36:41] <XXCoder> (uses flameblower) "Kids love this!"
[20:38:54] <MacGalempsy> Just what we needed, a druish princess
[20:42:03] <pfred1> when will my orders arrive?
[20:42:11] <XXCoder> yeserday
[20:42:23] <MacGalempsy> i already picked them up off your porch
[20:42:27] <pfred1> I looked yesterday
[20:42:34] <MacGalempsy> they sucked, so I smashed them
[20:42:55] <XXCoder> good thing I picked up before mac and subuated with fakes that he later smashed
[20:43:16] <pfred1> I made a file i was all excited then I go to find I didn't have the tools to cut it
[20:43:28] <MacGalempsy> thats what she said
[20:44:14] <pfred1> but I'm pretty thrilled i got KiCAD running in the meantime
[20:44:23] <pfred1> that stuff had me beat
[20:45:26] <pfred1> I'd install wxWigets then WxPython and the configure script would tell me it can't find wxWigets so I'd install it then configure would say it couldn't find WxPython
[20:45:50] <pfred1> it drove me batty
[20:47:29] <XXCoder> wx heard that is just bad
[20:47:42] <XXCoder> in mid-00s wx was pretty god
[20:47:52] <XXCoder> wonderwhat happened since
[20:47:52] <pfred1> I could strangle whoever made all this stuff
[20:48:10] <t12> score at the fleamarket today
[20:48:16] <t12> http://imgur.com/gallery/dMsiS
[20:48:46] <pfred1> they look big
[20:48:50] <t12> they are big
[20:49:11] <pfred1> they'll make quite the statement hanging up
[20:49:31] <pfred1> wrong season for flea markets here
[20:50:14] <t12> this one was rained out for a few weeks so more stuff today
[20:50:14] <pfred1> but in season I definitey hitthem
[20:50:18] <BeachBumPete> I have not been to a flea market in years
[20:50:50] <pfred1> every weekend in season I either hit yard sales or flea markets or both
[20:50:54] <t12> i got a nice brand new 1.5"-12 tap
[20:51:14] <pfred1> that's a big tap
[20:51:32] <MacGalempsy> t12 cool
[20:51:33] <pfred1> I hardly see any machine tools here it's too rural
[20:51:34] <Wolf_> lol crap I forgot to take pics of the taps...
[20:51:46] * Wolf_ knows a guy...
[20:52:14] <t12> suprising amount of retired machinist stuff shows up here
[20:52:21] <pfred1> I did get a jacobs 36B chuck the last time I went to a flea market though
[20:52:39] <t12> also scored some kind of veriner level?
[20:52:41] <BeachBumPete> my kids are watching Mystery Science Theater 3000 having never heard of it before and they are cracking up LOL
[20:52:45] <Wolf_> guy i know buys auction lots from closing factorys...
[20:52:49] <pfred1> yeah closest machine shop to here must be over 100 miles away
[20:52:57] <XXCoder> BeachBumPete: I helped kickstart the new shows
[20:53:03] <XXCoder> not lot money but yeah lol
[20:53:15] <BeachBumPete> what new shows? This is OLD
[20:53:29] <XXCoder> one of larger factors is that I like the idea and they actualoly captioned the video asking for support
[20:53:37] <XXCoder> and new... you didnt hear?
[20:54:10] <BeachBumPete> we are watching this on a local tv channel called comet
[20:54:14] <XXCoder> they are in production now
[20:54:29] <XXCoder> think it'll be netflix but dunno
[20:54:42] <t12> http://imgur.com/gallery/PSH4Y
[20:55:10] <pfred1> t12 OK what is it?
[20:55:17] <MacGalempsy> thats one of the biggest inclinometers I've ever seen
[20:55:22] <t12> $5!
[20:55:45] <MacGalempsy> what!? I need to go to that flea market
[20:55:49] <Wolf_> thats cool :)
[20:55:51] <BeachBumPete> NOT wanting to go back to work tomorrow morning hehe
[20:55:54] <MacGalempsy> a donde es?
[20:56:03] <MacGalempsy> BeachBumPete: tomorrow is a holiday
[20:56:14] <BeachBumPete> IKR
[20:56:26] <XXCoder> BeachBumPete: http://mst3k.com/
[20:56:33] <pfred1> t12 that reminds me of this http://i.imgur.com/1RVke.jpg except i know what this is
[20:57:11] <BeachBumPete> I spent like 3 hours today just CLEANING my shop
[20:57:28] <pfred1> BeachBumPete now come over and clean my shop for ike 6 hours
[20:57:37] <t12> got a melles griot hene? laser head too
[20:57:46] <BeachBumPete> I made some rocket launcher fishing rod holders for our kayaks and got PVC dust all ova da place
[20:58:05] <pfred1> that's what leaf blowers are for
[20:58:21] <BeachBumPete> or wetordry vacs
[20:58:40] <BeachBumPete> I just had like every damn hand tool and whatnot all over the place
[20:58:50] <pfred1> I worked at a place that made PVC pipe once
[20:58:53] <pfred1> woplas
[20:59:01] <BeachBumPete> whoopass?
[20:59:07] <pfred1> world of plastic
[20:59:28] <pfred1> we madel like all the PVC pipe south of the mason dixon line
[20:59:40] <pfred1> plus supplied the islands too
[20:59:52] <BeachBumPete> the who line? ;)
[21:00:15] <pfred1> the mason dixon line
[21:00:30] <Wolf_> PA/Maryland border
[21:00:40] <pfred1> the regrind pile at that place lookedl ike a bad acid trip
[21:01:08] <pfred1> I still got a twisted up piece of pipe from out of there someplace
[21:01:26] <BeachBumPete> so everyone ELSE is closed tomorrow so that means not only will my material order NOT get here but I cannot ship out my parts I have completed this weekend until the next day...
[21:01:42] <pfred1> what's tomorrow?
[21:01:56] <XXCoder> mlks day
[21:02:01] <pfred1> oh
[21:03:23] <pfred1> I'll probably go up to check the mailbox anyways
[21:04:16] <pfred1> it's a nice walk http://i.imgur.com/QmtbAhn.jpg
[21:04:30] <XXCoder> nice quad park too lol
[21:04:47] <XXCoder> cant think of any open fields around here
[21:05:03] <pfred1> XXCoder I got this for that http://i.imgur.com/bWSc9f9.jpg
[21:05:22] <XXCoder> that looks like defence point park lol
[21:05:48] <XXCoder> only difference is I see no evergreens
[21:06:05] <pfred1> that trail goes down to this clearing http://i.imgur.com/SgGXiaT.jpg
[21:06:32] <pfred1> I cleaned that big mess in the middle up
[21:06:49] <XXCoder> your own land?
[21:06:52] <pfred1> yeah
[21:06:55] <XXCoder> nice
[21:07:37] <pfred1> XXCoder well if you turn around there you see my meth lab http://i.imgur.com/cWXfC0n.jpg
[21:07:53] <XXCoder> fancy
[21:08:17] <pfred1> I can't see it from my house so it's OK
[21:09:13] <pfred1> but yeah the frner residents were cooking meth in that trailer
[21:09:47] <XXCoder> really? then interior probably is very toxic
[21:10:01] <pfred1> meh a couple chemical stains n the floor
[21:10:10] <pfred1> it'll never hurt you
[21:10:19] <XXCoder> heh one of houses I used to live near was found to be cooking meth
[21:10:28] <XXCoder> they destroyed house and dug foot of soil around it
[21:10:33] <pfred1> yeah it's not that big of a deal
[21:10:33] <XXCoder> extremely toxic
[21:10:48] <XXCoder> they hauled soil away, its that bad.
[21:11:16] <pfred1> they do that because there's money in it
[21:11:32] <XXCoder> just be really careful if you plan to tear it down
[21:11:39] <XXCoder> chemical masks and all
[21:12:12] <pfred1> you should see the weirdos that used to stop by here
[21:12:33] <pfred1> looking for the former occupants
[21:13:12] <pfred1> but that stopped years ago now thank god
[21:13:24] <XXCoder> crazy
[21:13:26] <Jymmm> Handheld cnc router https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p_wk3q8jWcs
[21:13:29] <XXCoder> any thefts?
[21:13:30] <pfred1> sometimes I still get their mail though
[21:13:50] <XXCoder> yah saw that jym awesome, I want one heh
[21:13:51] <pfred1> I guess where they ended up isn't much of a forwarding address
[21:14:02] <XXCoder> jail?
[21:14:05] <pfred1> yeah
[21:14:41] <pfred1> back in them woods is chemical barrel saddles
[21:14:58] <pfred1> they must have had quite an operation going
[21:16:59] <XXCoder> yeah
[21:26:20] <MacGalempsy> $1600 for that thing
[21:26:27] <Jymmm> XXCoder: I never saw one before. Initally was spectical, but pretty cool. I can totally see that being used on something that already exist (bar top?) or side of a barn or whatever
[21:26:39] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: spndle inscluded?
[21:26:47] <MacGalempsy> https://preorder.shapertools.com/
[21:26:49] <Jymmm> how much is tape?
[21:27:05] <MacGalempsy> con 16 friends into buying one and yours is free
[21:27:36] <BeachBumPete> hehe
[21:27:49] <MacGalempsy> guys YOU ALL NEED ONE
[21:27:56] <MacGalempsy> here's the link...heh
[21:30:13] <XXCoder> sure buy one for me, and i'll give you reference for free tape
[21:30:41] <XXCoder> why does it need tape?
[21:30:50] <MacGalempsy> everything requires tape
[21:30:58] <BeachBumPete> Well I better get ta bed guys. Talk tomorrow
[21:31:06] <XXCoder> space tape ;) (from that silly scifi book)
[21:31:18] <Jymmm> XXCoder: The tape allows it to map the area
[21:32:59] <MacGalempsy> its probably like scotch tape with a dash down the middle
[21:33:02] <Jymmm> Though it does need a wiper for the sceen
[21:33:26] <Jymmm> It's a non repeating pattern on the tape, it's an optical recognition thing
[21:33:46] <Jymmm> watch the video =)
[21:34:11] <XXCoder> fancy :P
[21:46:12] <MacGalempsy> that went quite real quick
[21:46:36] <XXCoder> thats what she said
[21:46:58] <MacGalempsy> thats because I chose to treat her like that
[21:47:24] <XXCoder> poor lady
[21:48:03] <MacGalempsy> yeah
[21:48:05] <Jymmm> oh fuck me... it can draw/cut a circle (or other shapes) directly from the panel, no cad /computer needed.
[21:48:20] <MacGalempsy> thats not what she said
[21:48:53] <Jymmm> Have you ever wanted a 3" or 12" disc out of plywood, now you can freehand.
[21:55:11] <MacGalempsy> michaelangelo could do it, so what makes it so hard?
[21:55:54] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: try it and you tell us =)
[21:56:18] <Jymmm> that resale price will include the router and tooling
[21:56:23] <MacGalempsy> ok. wait up for it, and i'll send you a pic
[21:56:25] <Jymmm> pre-sale*
[21:56:50] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: Live video you bitch!
[21:57:29] <MacGalempsy> ok. the feed starts at 0400 CST. i'll send you a link at 0350
[21:59:41] <MacGalempsy> you guys hear about the Hearing Protection Act?
[21:59:51] <Wolf_> ye
[21:59:53] <Wolf_> s
[22:00:09] <MacGalempsy> cant wait
[22:00:11] <Wolf_> I have hope… doubt that it will pass, but have hope
[22:01:11] <Wolf_> if so, I need a better lathe :D
[22:01:37] <pfred1> I need a lathe
[22:01:39] <MacGalempsy> I have a feeling that if it does pass, everyone in here will be trying to make one
[22:02:01] <Wolf_> no try, plus can make so many baffles :)
[22:02:25] <MacGalempsy> 3d printer
[22:02:40] <XXCoder> hearing protection act?
[22:02:43] <Wolf_> naa, too much first round pop
[22:03:05] <MacGalempsy> yeah, its saving gun owners hearing by taking away the $200 silencer fee
[22:03:08] <Wolf_> take firearm suppressors off the $200 tax stamp
[22:03:10] <MacGalempsy> and dropping the red tape
[22:03:28] <Wolf_> which takes about 6+ months for paperwork
[22:03:28] <XXCoder> ahh i was thinking workspace hearing protection law of some sory
[22:03:35] <XXCoder> *sort
[22:05:13] <pfred1> I don't want to jynx myself but so far my machine is building the latest KiCAD release
[22:06:27] <MacGalempsy> i think they will be classified more like a regular weapon, which only requires a background check or your ability to make one yourself
[22:07:12] <Wolf_> yeah, really the hurdle is getting people to understand that movie silencers arent real life
[22:07:59] <XXCoder> yeah it does not pwfp whatever movie sounds like
[22:08:11] <XXCoder> I still remember mythbuster show about that
[22:08:33] <pfred1> I still remember a guy getting shot dead across the street from me
[22:08:38] <Wolf_> yeah, in movies it makes 45 or 9mm quieter then a airgun.. doesn’t work that way
[22:08:54] <XXCoder> I still remember old csi tv show about deaf guy using pototo to try silcence gunshot. it didnt know but he does not know
[22:09:04] <XXCoder> so he uses another and succeed on murder and run away
[22:09:24] <XXCoder> *it didnt work
[22:09:47] <Wolf_> knife doesn’t need a suppressor...
[22:10:04] <XXCoder> whats awesome is that it showed video relay, lady was using it and interpeter says she hear gunshot but lady doesnt react but gets confuses
[22:10:09] <XXCoder> then she dies
[22:10:25] <XXCoder> (second shot using second pototo lol
[22:10:42] <pfred1> potato gun
[22:11:11] <XXCoder> initally they was utterly confused because not only there was pototo remains but there was TWO of em, meaning guy used it twice, and it shpould be clear after first shot that it didnt work
[22:11:13] <pfred1> pumpkin air cannon are big by me
[22:11:27] <XXCoder> pf yeah pototo as "silencer" lol
[22:11:39] <Wolf_> where are you again pfred1
[22:12:14] <pfred1> Wolf_ I live in Sussex County Delaware
[22:12:26] <pfred1> this is where Pumpkin chunkin is
[22:12:32] <Wolf_> oh, cool, on the other side of the bay from me (sorta)
[22:12:37] <pfred1> that started a field away from my house
[22:13:01] <Wolf_> I’m in central Maryland
[22:13:07] <MacGalempsy> you guys can become bffa
[22:13:11] <MacGalempsy> bffs
[22:13:14] <pfred1> yeah I'm close to eastern shore maryland
[22:13:25] <pfred1> but far from the mainland part
[22:13:27] <XXCoder> machinist buddies!
[22:14:00] <pfred1> XXCoder the other side of the bay is a long ways away
[22:14:07] <XXCoder> heh
[22:14:11] <pfred1> I haven't been there in decades
[22:15:21] <pfred1> http://i.imgur.com/iGnhYTJ.jpg
[22:16:43] <Wolf_> cool :)
[22:17:04] <pfred1> I saw Yankee Siege set a world record that day
[22:17:20] <XXCoder> big guns
[22:17:25] <XXCoder> short "guns
[22:17:38] <pfred1> Yankee Siege is a trebuchet
[22:17:52] <XXCoder> pototo guns xool though not really my interest
[22:17:54] <pfred1> it lobbed a pumpkn 4,026 feet
[22:18:00] <XXCoder> or pumpkin
[22:18:01] <MacGalempsy> Jymmm: here is your new welding robot arm https://www.kickstarter.com/projects/254771949/littlearm-2c-mini-arduino-robot-arm-for-stem-and-h?ref=category
[22:18:31] <XXCoder> mac theres new arm in kickstarter better than that one but quite pricy
[22:18:40] <pfred1> XXCoder I thnk the event is over now a door flew off one of the air guns and just about killed someone
[22:18:40] <XXCoder> highest price has moving platform for it :P
[22:18:51] <XXCoder> ow
[22:19:06] <pfred1> yeah the organizers are anything but organized
[22:19:08] <MacGalempsy> oh the CTRL?
[22:19:55] <MacGalempsy> how about a small wireless Renishaw touchprobe transmitter?
[22:20:55] <pfred1> I need a faster PC
[22:21:06] <MacGalempsy> Wolf_: what all did you use to get yours working with the arduino?
[22:21:30] <XXCoder> ordered this https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01IA9R2TY/
[22:21:34] <Wolf_> not much, used the code that archivist came up with
[22:21:34] <XXCoder> cant wait to get one heh
[22:22:01] <Wolf_> I wonder what the latency is on a x-bee or other type of transmitter
[22:23:17] <MacGalempsy> like a one channel arduino, smaller than a nano?
[22:23:26] <MacGalempsy> with built in wireless
[22:24:00] <Wolf_> idk… haven’t looked
[22:24:11] <Wolf_> might be stuff that small out now
[22:24:13] <Tom_itx> probably not too good for a noisy environment
[22:24:33] <MacGalempsy> wonder what the wireless renishaws use?
[22:24:49] <Wolf_> probably 433mhz uhf
[22:25:18] <Wolf_> pretty common in industrial control
[22:26:24] <MacGalempsy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0xme-TEGGgY
[22:26:30] <Tom_itx> probably IR
[22:26:40] <MacGalempsy> kind of big
[22:26:42] <Wolf_> newer ones are IR
[22:27:20] <Wolf_> yeah, not that crap...
[22:27:36] <MacGalempsy> i guess if you have a receiver nearby you could just make sure the spindle is oriented in the right direction
[22:27:53] <MacGalempsy> make it plug into the factory socket
[22:31:36] <MacGalempsy> https://www.amazon.com/SainSmart-Infrared-Controllor-Channel-Receiver/dp/B00O2SQYW4
[22:31:45] <Wolf_> MacGalempsy: http://www.hoperf.com/rf%5Ftransmitter/module/
[22:32:02] <MacGalempsy> even better
[22:32:28] <MacGalempsy> that sainsmart one is only $10 for the reciever and transmitter though
[22:32:41] <Wolf_> hope RF parts are cheap
[22:33:11] <archivist> 433 is cheap on ebay too
[22:33:14] <Wolf_> whats used in OpenLRSng RC long range control stuff
[22:35:57] <MacGalempsy> no idea, but if you have an antenna coming off the machine, would it really need to be that powerful?
[22:36:13] <Wolf_> not really :)
[22:36:43] <MacGalempsy> Wolf_: does your MP1 have a removable cord, so that the side is like a 5 prong connector?
[22:36:54] <Wolf_> RC stuff is using 1w, won’t need that in a machine going a foot
[22:37:02] <Wolf_> yeah, its the 5pin cord
[22:37:13] <MacGalempsy> https://www.amazon.com/1-Channel-Infrared-Remote-Control-Module/dp/B00NIOLDLA/ref=pd_lpo_469_lp_img_4?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1&refRID=PHR6F6ESF8PM3XDHK3TZ
[22:38:48] <Wolf_> shouldn’t even need that
[22:39:15] <MacGalempsy> It seemed an easy way to send the signal to the mesa
[22:39:29] <MacGalempsy> then its just making the transmitter that plugs into the probe
[22:39:51] <Wolf_> just arduino mini + a IR led on one of the pins, then another duino as pickup to mesa
[22:40:37] <sync_> yeah the omp40 and omp40-2 use ir
[22:40:38] <pfred1> optical detecters usually are pretty slow on the upswing
[22:40:41] <sync_> works really well
[22:40:57] <archivist> I got http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/433MHz-Wireless-Transmitter-and-Receiver-Modules-MX-FS-03V-MX-05-/140928401303 ready to try
[22:41:04] <MacGalempsy> man thats sweet
[22:42:29] <MacGalempsy> so you use that and the mini?
[22:42:32] <archivist> I originally got the bits to transmit more complex data from the 3 axis scanning probe
[22:42:38] <pfred1> this is sweet [ 71%] Building CXX object pcbnew/CMakeFiles/_pcbnew.dir/exporters/export_gencad.cpp.o
[22:43:12] <archivist> MacGalempsy, not yet tried them
[22:43:45] <MacGalempsy> it would be nice to make it as low profile as possible
[22:43:55] <MacGalempsy> since the TP1 body is so wide
[22:45:03] <MacGalempsy> I think the MP1 is the next model of the TP1
[22:45:54] <archivist> then they added an optical or inductive module between probe and shank
[22:46:37] <MacGalempsy> ah.
[22:47:57] <Wolf_> I don’t have a pic of my Mp3 probe
[22:48:17] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/X1ozLpw.jpg nose of it
[22:48:27] <Wolf_> well, part of it
[22:49:13] <Wolf_> actually, MP9 probe, which is IR based
[22:50:16] <MacGalempsy> https://www.renishaw.com/cmmsupport/knowledgebase/media/img/en/3f97fe3a2e7c4a3a9d4059b166437ddd.jpg
[22:50:43] <MacGalempsy> thats the one I have. the top comes off, so perhaps making a different arbor to fit my tool changer and extending it up would be enough
[22:50:46] <Wolf_> http://i.imgur.com/vL5jtDf.jpg
[22:51:42] <Wolf_> mp9 is missing the probe end in that pic
[22:52:36] <MacGalempsy> https://www.arduino.cc/en/Main/ArduinoGemma
[22:53:08] <archivist> just about have enough for a renishaw museum one day
[22:54:05] <Wolf_> lol
[22:54:16] <Wolf_> I want to get the mp9 workign as well
[22:54:46] <MacGalempsy> that gemma is like the perfect one. small and can use that transmitter module and the signal from the probe
[22:55:07] <MacGalempsy> http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Adafruit-Gemma-Board-Wearable-Computing-Arduino-Compatible-/161362098158?hash=item2591ee37ee:g:LnQAAOSwY45UN9VS
[22:56:02] <archivist> hmm can one get an analogue input on that little thing
[22:56:32] <MacGalempsy> one analog in
[22:56:40] <Wolf_> need more pins I think lol
[22:56:55] <MacGalempsy> 3 digital i/o
[22:57:20] <MacGalempsy> https://www.arduino.cc/en/Products/Compare
[22:57:52] <XXCoder> I want to 3d print a probe but not too sure what design to use
[22:58:20] <MacGalempsy> so the analog in from the probe and the digital out to the transmitter?
[22:58:34] <archivist> yes
[22:59:10] <MacGalempsy> that sounds like the ticket right there.
[22:59:13] <pfred1> can LinuxCNC resume on any line?
[22:59:47] <XXCoder> should be opf
[22:59:48] <MacGalempsy> pfred1: I think you need to know the line, then use an optional stop
[23:00:08] <XXCoder> just be careful because it may set some stuff like rpm, etc
[23:00:13] <archivist> it depends I think
[23:00:36] <XXCoder> cell I run if I want to start on middle of program I have to make it run first few lines so it can gbet coordite information from main computer
[23:00:46] <XXCoder> otherwise its going to crash
[23:00:48] <pfred1> I was looking on the web yestrday but I couldn't get a straight answer really
[23:01:06] <Wolf_> no straight answer, depends on the gcode
[23:01:21] <XXCoder> indeed
[23:01:36] <pfred1> yeah I recall something about you can't resume out of a subroutine or something?
[23:01:46] <Wolf_> I started breaking my cam ops in to smaller chunks for that reason
[23:02:19] <MacGalempsy> http://linuxcnc.org/docs/html/gcode/machining-center.html#sub:block-delete-switch
[23:02:20] <Wolf_> kinda of a pain but at the same time easier on mess-ups
[23:02:23] <XXCoder> heh I remember one where it calls certain function repeating at various locations (6 of em) but if you want to resume it has to be from start of that function down
[23:03:00] <MacGalempsy> the block delete is one of the best ways. use a couple of them, then you can jump ahead without missing your feed rates
[23:03:50] <MacGalempsy> now enter / on 300000 lines of code
[23:04:31] <pfred1> yeah they're bad mouthing LinuxCNC here https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k3RVwXs7TG4
[23:05:48] <Jymmm> MacGalempsy: Are you kidding me... A printed robot arm, and a tiny lil fucker at that! PLZ BIOTCH <waves hand in MacGalempsy face, turns , and walks away>
[23:06:07] <MacGalempsy> its almost too big to give you a hand job
[23:06:23] <MacGalempsy> fortunately the claw closes down
[23:06:35] <pfred1> keep your dick in a vise
[23:06:39] <XXCoder> in least jym didnt take glove off and slap you with it, challeging you to duel, mac'
[23:06:50] * Jymmm uses MacGalempsy to demo the crotch cruncher 2000 on
[23:07:17] <XXCoder> I read about one dumbass that used leather belts at work for mastrubation and acciently ripped balls off
[23:07:29] <XXCoder> industrual things are not pleasure things
[23:07:37] * Jymmm adjust the crotch crunch to acapella
[23:08:02] <MacGalempsy> shit, a person I know, his brother smacked his nuts and the pain was so bad he rubber banded himself! what a moron
[23:08:14] * Jymmm looks at XXCoder
[23:08:21] <MacGalempsy> he is now a unic
[23:08:28] <XXCoder> hey I still got my balls intact thank you very much
[23:08:40] <XXCoder> unic?
[23:09:24] <MacGalempsy> thats how the vienna chior had full grown men be altos
[23:09:30] <MacGalempsy> they castrated them
[23:09:46] <XXCoder> by choice hopefully :P
[23:10:01] <MacGalempsy> I dont think the catholic church gives many choices
[23:10:11] <pfred1> the things people will do for job security
[23:10:15] <MacGalempsy> lol
[23:10:45] <MacGalempsy> proper spelling is eunuch
[23:11:11] * Jymmm beta tests the Crotch Crunch 4000 on XXCoder, it may have a few bugs...
[23:11:24] <XXCoder> balls of steel
[23:11:52] <MacGalempsy> animantium
[23:12:51] <XXCoder> adamitite
[23:13:08] <MacGalempsy> is that what the Wolverine was injected with?
[23:13:42] <XXCoder> adamantium corrected spelling
[23:13:45] <Jymmm> XXCoder: the 4000 has a new accessory... https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I75SN-SJ6sw
[23:14:20] <pfred1> adam antium https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B2a6l6wM2k
[23:14:23] <XXCoder> cnc deburring nice
[23:14:30] <Jymmm> XXCoder: We call it BallsBeGone™
[23:14:36] <XXCoder> lol
[23:14:51] <Jymmm> BallBuster 5000
[23:15:01] <Jymmm> BotBallBuster
[23:15:15] <Jymmm> BlueBallBuster
[23:17:07] <XXCoder> tagline of "Tired of being male? Grind it away with BallBuster 5000!"
[23:17:39] <MacGalempsy> why stop at pube removal, when you can take it down to the pelvic bone?
[23:19:45] <MacGalempsy> https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpKvZpPTOe0
[23:19:48] <MacGalempsy> wow
[23:20:09] <XXCoder> heh we machine Ti everyday at work
[23:20:13] <XXCoder> its not too bad
[23:20:21] <XXCoder> its stainless steel thats nightmare
[23:20:25] <MacGalempsy> 250ipm?
[23:20:35] <XXCoder> hm that is fast
[23:21:18] <MacGalempsy> I think so, but you cut it everyday
[23:21:34] <XXCoder> now that is super clean cut
[23:21:56] <XXCoder> mac cell I run is Al only, but coworker always runs Ti stuff
[23:22:08] <XXCoder> but tools is pretty slow
[23:22:17] <XXCoder> but same time its pretty old machine
[23:22:30] <MacGalempsy> what do you cut Aluminum at?
[23:22:38] <XXCoder> A61 cell
[23:22:52] <XXCoder> forgot brand name
[23:23:37] <MacGalempsy> who was it doing an ar15 reciever? https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_uSkj671urw
[23:24:25] <XXCoder> haas ehh
[23:24:30] <XXCoder> its ok
[23:24:53] <XXCoder> many of used machines arriving at work is haas
[23:25:02] <MacGalempsy> titan is a nut
[23:25:05] <XXCoder> from sister company that closed downb for good
[23:25:16] <MacGalempsy> nycnc just got one
[23:25:33] <Jymmm> the foam carving is cool, then after that it's XXCoder ball polishing https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7e5iet3tV3I
[23:26:07] <XXCoder> looks cool allrgght
[23:26:20] <XXCoder> that balls? nah
[23:26:24] <XXCoder> its smaller than my real ones
[23:26:32] <MacGalempsy> I wonder what CAM they use for that?
[23:26:36] <MacGalempsy> any idea?
[23:26:42] <XXCoder> nope sadly
[23:27:05] <Jymmm> think rotary table
[23:27:28] <XXCoder> cam program called rotary table?
[23:28:35] <Jymmm> no I mean think of a mill with a rotary table
[23:28:56] <pfred1> I'd like to have a rotary table
[23:29:06] <XXCoder> ahh a61 its a horzional mill with rotating table (tombstone)
[23:29:09] <MacGalempsy> 5 or 6dof on the arm. then the rotary table and it looks like its on a track
[23:32:53] <XXCoder> any of you want this huuuge lathe https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BT7DrOZUHRc
[23:33:02] <XXCoder> after few minutes
[23:36:27] <MacGalempsy> XXCoder: that vmc after the lathe is pretty sweet
[23:36:34] <XXCoder> indeed
[23:36:38] <XXCoder> wonder what nakme it is
[23:36:41] <XXCoder> brand and model
[23:36:58] <MacGalempsy> DATRON
[23:37:09] <MacGalempsy> not sure the model
[23:37:19] <XXCoder> close enough, already found site
[23:37:46] <XXCoder> great more of "white virus" website design
[23:37:59] <XXCoder> damn how often do I use "color this site!" plugin.. heh
[23:38:07] <MacGalempsy> i hope this benchman can pull those kinds of speeds
[23:38:36] <MacGalempsy> the fastest one ive seen is at 300 ipm
[23:38:57] <MacGalempsy> factory was 200ipm, so he must have changed the settings
[23:39:51] <XXCoder> "requst a quote"
[23:39:55] <XXCoder> okay i cant afford it
[23:40:09] <XXCoder> I hate it when they keep prices secret
[23:41:36] <MacGalempsy> so the important stuff on the Datron is 60k spindle and 866ipm
[23:41:42] <roycroft> i generally move on from sites that won't post pricing, and only go back to them if i don't find another good source of whatever i need
[23:42:30] <XXCoder> roy yeah
[23:43:09] <XXCoder> even if it might be cheapest if its priceless it is priceless therefore I cannot afford it
[23:43:38] <roycroft> any high ticket item is usually somewhat negotiable for price/terms
[23:44:10] <roycroft> but i prefer doing initial research with some good ballpark figures, and only contacting a vendor for a quote after i'm serious about that vendor's product
[23:45:51] <MacGalempsy> probably like $500k
[23:46:07] <XXCoder> jeez
[23:46:22] <XXCoder> pretty expensive for smallish machine
[23:46:51] <MacGalempsy> or something crazy. when I called the guys at intellitek about my benchman xt. they told me a retrofit was going to be $15k. I asked him if he thought it was pretty high, and he told me the machine was like $110k new
[23:47:27] <XXCoder> work now has 2 tiny cnc mills
[23:47:30] <MacGalempsy> after that conversation, I told the seller the retrofit was $15k, then talked him down from $10k to $5k
[23:47:32] <XXCoder> I want one of em dammit lol
[23:47:41] <XXCoder> I mean, its smaller than arcade!!
[23:48:06] <XXCoder> but it has what looks like 21 tools
[23:48:15] <XXCoder> tiny table lol
[23:48:33] <MacGalempsy> what are the ones at work? you mentioned very small in the past
[23:48:42] <MacGalempsy> sheline?
[23:48:46] <MacGalempsy> sherline? heh
[23:48:56] <XXCoder> dunno name
[23:49:03] <XXCoder> slightly bigger ones is robodrill
[23:50:15] <XXCoder> mac whats weird is that its designed to work with robot arm, so front door has 2 door, the normal open one and sliding dor
[23:50:53] <MacGalempsy> cool. robodrill is big
[23:51:00] <XXCoder> no
[23:51:03] <MacGalempsy> mine is like a videogame now https://flic.kr/p/irnWJX
[23:51:10] <XXCoder> http://robot.fanucamerica.com/products/robodrill-machining-center/Images/Three-ROBODRILL-Models.png
[23:51:16] <XXCoder> the leftmost one
[23:51:19] <XXCoder> work has 3 of those npow
[23:51:37] <XXCoder> the 2 cnc mill is even smaller than that
[23:51:39] <MacGalempsy> what are you guys producing?
[23:51:45] <XXCoder> heh tons of parts
[23:51:59] <XXCoder> large part of it is boeing, thats why that damned twitter hurt company so bafly
[23:52:13] <MacGalempsy> my next push on the cnc should have all 4 axii working and the ATC going
[23:52:20] <XXCoder> enough that sister company closed, and nobody got bonus
[23:52:44] <pfred1> the latest, and the greatest http://i.imgur.com/o34HYiE.png
[23:52:45] <MacGalempsy> damn. my industry shut down and we dont have work right now...
[23:53:06] <XXCoder> im just glad I still have job
[23:53:34] <MacGalempsy> friday, I filled out an application for a position in OKC. its the first listing ive seen for that job in over a year
[23:54:03] <MacGalempsy> my buddy works there, so hopefully I'll have a good shot at the position
[23:54:34] <XXCoder> good luck man :)
[23:54:43] <MacGalempsy> thanks. I need it.
[23:55:17] <MacGalempsy> if this other company gets some cash infusion, I know I'm on the short list. the problem is they are probably looking for like a billion or so
[23:55:41] <MacGalempsy> enough to fund a total of 6 rigs
[23:56:08] <MacGalempsy> that robodrill has live toolding?
[23:56:11] <MacGalempsy> tooling?
[23:56:31] <XXCoder> im not too sure on "live tooling" defintion
[23:57:04] <MacGalempsy> I think it means the individual tool never leaves the tool changer, it just starts rotating when it switches tools
[23:57:25] <MacGalempsy> http://www.ebay.com/itm/Fanuc-Robodrill-T14iA-CNC-Vertical-Machining-Center-/172483446671?hash=item2828d0878f:g:lakAAOSwUKxYeUMr
[23:57:41] <XXCoder> new ones seem to be 100k or so
[23:57:44] <MacGalempsy> see how that tool changer just rotates?
[23:57:50] <XXCoder> yeah
[23:57:57] <XXCoder> I have seen it close up, in person. :D
[23:58:13] <XXCoder> but not operating yet its yet to be fixed up and connected
[23:58:18] <MacGalempsy> $18k and its yours
[23:58:41] <XXCoder> not that big one. I want other different brand one, even smaller than even smallest robodrill lol
[23:58:43] <MacGalempsy> but seriously, there is one like mine, but without the tool changer on ebay right now for $5k
[23:58:48] <XXCoder> 25000 rpm
[23:59:04] <MacGalempsy> I bet you could talk them down to like $3k
[23:59:08] <XXCoder> they say it'll be used for engraving, so no more old fadal for engraving
[23:59:26] <XXCoder> its actually pickup possibility for me LOL
[23:59:38] <XXCoder> puallup wa
[23:59:38] <MacGalempsy> heh. perfect